Q2 2020 Whirlpool Corp Earnings Call
Good morning, and welcome to Whirlpool Corporation's second quarter 2020 earnings release call.
Today's call is being recorded for opening remarks, and introduction I'd like to turn the call over two senior director of Investor Relations Roxanne Warner. Thank you and welcome to our second quarter 2020 Conference call. Joining me today based on what Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Jim Pizza.
Our Chief Financial Officer.
Our remarks to be truck with the presentation available on the Investor section of our website at Whirlpool Corp Dot com.
Before we begin I remind you that as we conduct this call we will be making forward looking statements to assist you in understanding whirlpool corporation's future expectations.
Our actual results could differ materially from these statements due to many factors discussed in our latest 10-Q and other periodic report.
We also want to remind you that today's presentation includes non-GAAP measures.
We believe these measures I important indicators of operations as they exclude items that may not be indicative of results from our ongoing business operation.
We also think the adjusted measures will provide you a better baseline for analyzing trends and our ongoing business operations.
Listeners are directed to the supplemental information package posted on the Investor Relations section of our website for the reconciliation of non-GAAP items to the most directly comparable GAAP measures.
Also as we highlights on slide two there is significant uncertainty about the duration and potential impacts of the corvid 19 pandemic. Therefore, our discussion of the potential impact of Corbett 19 on the company's business results reflects our best estimate based on what we know city.
At this time for participants in our listen only mode.
Following our prepared remarks, the call will be opened for analysts questions. As a reminder, we accept participant acts no more than two question.
With that I'll turn the call over to Mark.
Thanks, and good morning, everyone I Hope you on your families of staying healthy and save during these times.
Before I begin I want to acknowledge the hard work of all our employees throughout this year I'm extremely proud of their unwavering dedication and commitment to whirlpool and our customers through these difficult time.
Non turning to slide four we discuss our second quarter Twentytwenty highlights.
We delivered resilient results globally with ongoing earnings per diluted share of $2.15.
And ongoing EBIT margin of 5.2% despite significant and continued could 19 related challenges.
In North America, we delivered a very strong performance of 12.6% EBIT margins and expansion of 20 basis points in a clear indication of a recent strength and agility.
Across the globe, we took decisive and meaningful action driving strong levels of cost takeout.
Lastly, we delivered year over year free cash flow improvement of $124 million.
Due to strong working capital management particular in accounts receivables and inventory.
Turning to slide five we show the drivers of our second quarter EBIT margins.
Right mix negatively impacted margins by 75 basis points.
Unfavorable product mix shift due to cope with 19 related consumer purchases were partially offset by effective promotion management in North America.
Our cost takeout actions delivered approximately 150 basis points of margin expansion.
Partially offsetting a 300 basis point headwind from lower fixed cost absorption driven by covered 19 production disruptions and inventory reduction.
Additionally, continued favorable raw material trends positively benefited margins by approximately 100 basis points.
Lastly, strong cost discipline related to marketing and technology investments, partially offset by unfavorable impact of currency, primarily in our Latin America region.
Overall, we're very pleased the delivered solid operating margins in what was undoubtedly but most difficult quarter for global pandemic.
This impressively demonstrates the strong execution of our global teams.
And resiliency of our business model.
Now I'll turn it over to Jim to review our recent results.
Thanks, Mark and good morning, everyone turning to slide seven ill review, our second quarter regional results.
In North America, Cobot related demand and operational disruptions resulted in double digit revenue decline with solid recovery in June as restrictions eased across most states.
This year over year revenue decline of approximately 13% is comparatively better than other regions due to home improvement channels remaining open.
Despite lower demand, we delivered EBIT margins of 12.6% in the quarter due to strong cost discipline and reduced marketing investments.
From an operational standpoint, we continue to experience supply disruptions due to reduced production yield in us factories and component shortages out of Mexico.
Overall, we're pleased with the continued strength of our North America business and the regions ability to maintain strong margins in a challenging environment.
Turning to slide eight I'll review, our second quarter results for Europe, Middle East and Africa region.
Shutdowns across Europe in April and May and significant demand weakness across the region drove our negative second quarter results. However in June year over year volume growth in all countries, except Russia, driven by strong demand recovery and share gains in key countries resulted in year over year net sales growth and positive.
EBIT in the month.
Looking forward a strong order pipeline extending into Q3 combined with our ongoing improvement efforts provide us confidence the region will return to profitability in the back half of the year.
Turning to slide nine I'll review, our second quarter results for our Latin America region demand declined strongly throughout the quarter in Mexico and through May in Brazil with June showing strong signs of recovery.
Organic net sales declined approximately 4% share gains across the region and strong direct to consumer sales, partially offset demand declines.
The region delivered positive EBIT margin, a strong cost takeout mitigated kobin related disruptions and continued currency devaluation.
Finally, as a reminder, our second quarter 2019 results include the impact of the Embraco compressor business in Latin America's results. This will be the final quarter in which comparison periods will contain embraco results.
Turning to slide 10, I'll review, our second quarter results for the Asia region.
While net sales were significantly impacted by the India shutdowns in April and May demand rebounded across Asia in June.
EBIT declined as cost takeout was offset by significant cobot related demand challenges.
In China, the macroeconomic environment has become increasingly stable. So a level of uncertainty remains as we move through the second half of the year operationally. We are pleased to have delivered whirlpool branded share growth in the quarter.
In India results strongly improved sequentially within the quarter economic restrictions east.
Overall, we're pleased with our ongoing EBIT margin results of 5.2% given the approximately 300 basis point impact from Covidien 18.
These results provide confidence in our operational strategy and demonstrate the resiliency of our global business.
Turning to slide 12, Mark and I will discuss our updated perspective on 2020, I will now turn it over to mark to begin.
Thanks, Jim.
As expected the second quarter was the most difficult one in terms of the impact of a pandemic on our business. While we are encouraged by the demand trends seen in June and extending into Q3.
We are very mindful of the significant uncertainties, which remain for rest of the year.
Because of is we're not reinstating full year guidance, but again want to provide our current perspective based on information available at this time.
In line with our discussions during the last earnings call I want to give you an update on the three fundamental questions for our businesses Twentytwenty.
One what's the shape of recovery.
Based on our current sell through trends in key countries. We continue to expect a U shaped recovery throughout Twentytwenty. However, there is a risk for w. shape demand curve in particular as we look into Q4.
Overall, we anticipate a full year organic net sales decline of 7% to 12% an improvement from our previous full year perspective of 10% to 15%.
Due to a stronger than expected second quarter net sales.
Second can we sustain operating margins here I would highlight the clear structural improvement in our margin profile compared to our business results during between will aid financial crisis.
Yeah that provides us confidence in our ability to sustain healthy operating margins going forward.
Additionally, we can confirm we are firmly on track to deliver cost savings of $500 million or more in 2023rd.
What's our liquidity position finally, Jim will discuss our strong cash position supported by clear focus on disciplined working capital management.
And our enhanced liquidity position, which enables us to withstand the current economic uncertainty we face across the globe.
Turning to slide 13, and highlight the updated data that continues to support our perspective of the U shaped recovery throughout twentytwenty.
Please note that we do not intend to chevron's data beyond this quarter, but we felt given the uncertainty over current situation I misstated would provide valuable proof point as we all assess the impacts of Cobas 19.
As we continue to monitor the development of covered 19 cases and its related impact an appliance demand across key countries. We continue to see similar U shaped demand patterns emerge update on different timelines.
In China, Cobot, 19 cases have significantly reduce even as a broader economy reopening leading to a pickup in demand mode with a notable shift from offline to online.
In Italy in the UK, we're seeing clear signs of recovery in June and scope of 19 cases reduce and economies begin to reopen.
We believe this is pent up demand from the previous knockdown and it remains to be seen FCC yet structure recovery.
In the U.S., we have not seen the level of demand declines as we have experienced in other countries. Mrs result of key retailers remaining open from the pandemic and the impact of government cash transfers to consumers.
Based on the consistent demand trends, we are seeing across many of our key countries Egypt different phases of the crisis. We continue to expect that you shaped recovery, resulting in full year twentytwenty organic net sales decline of 7% to 12%.
Turning to slide 14, I'll discuss our structurally improved margin physician.
During our last earnings call, we highlighted our margin profile during the last financial crisis into eight we saw EBIT margins dropped sharply to around 3.5% before bottoming out at a negative 1%.
Contrast, this with our second quarter results in which we delivered ongoing EBIT margins above 5% in what is the trust period of occurrence over to relate to crisis.
These results provide a meaningful proofpoint, indicating that we can sustain healthy margins throughout this crisis and demonstrates the effectiveness of a strong and decisive actions we've taken.
Turning to slide 15 discussed we actually put in place to sustain our margins over the near term in more detail.
Overall, we're well on track towards delivering cost take out of $500 million are more as part of our core with 19 response plan.
Year to date, we've delivered cost takeout of approximately $180 million actions in place through the remainder of the savings in the second half a year.
First we continue to focus on ensuring we capitalized on the deflationary raw material market.
We continue to significantly reduce both structural and discretionary spending.
During the quarter, we took the initial steps to implement a large majority of the actions we outlined on our Q1 call as of today. These actions are 80% completed and as a result, we expect to see cost savings, resulting from these measures salaried throughout the second half a year.
Third we have maintained our strict focus on working capital management, ensuring we have a proper risk mitigation plans in place and are appropriately managing our inventory levels across the globe.
Finally, we recently announced the workforce reduction plan Muse as part of our continued cost reduction efforts.
Inclusive of all U.S. actions, Naples restructuring charges and anticipated additional actions. We now expect total restructuring charges of 260 million to $280 million for twentytwenty above our original guidance of $100 million.
Moving to slide 16, I now turn it over to Jim to highlight our overall financial position and ability to navigate and ultimately lead out of this crisis.
Thanks, Mark as a result of continued efforts to support our overall liquidity needs our financial position remains strong with ample liquidity and flexibility to withstand the current economic uncertainty.
First we have a very strong liquidity position as evidenced by our current cash position of $2.5 billion with approximately 2.5 billion available and remaining committed credit facilities.
Within the quarter, we executed a 500 million dollar 364 day revolving credit facility and issued a 500 million dollar 30 year bond, adding $1 billion of additional liquidity.
Subsequently, we use the proceeds from the bond and new credit facility to pay down $1 billion of short term borrowings under our long term committed credit facility, maintaining our leverage position compared to the first quarter.
Second we continue to maintain ample buffer to withstand increased debt or a reduction in earnings without negatively impacting our covenants from a covenant perspective, our debt to capitalization limit is 0.65 and we're currently at approximately 0.5, while our interest coverage ratio requires a minimum of three times and we are currently above.
10 times.
Third I'd like to remind everyone that we have no additional bond maturities until the second quarter of Twentytwenty, one which is only approximately $300 million.
It is through our strong financial position and our continued actions that we strive to maintain our strong investment grade credit rating.
Lastly, I'd like to mention that our revised capital allocation plan remains unchanged at this time.
Until our future liquidity needs to become clear our temporary suspension of share repurchases will remain in effect.
Overall, we are confident that we have to liquidity needed to support our operations. During this crisis and remain focused on progressing towards our long term gross debt to EBITDA goal of two times.
Now on slide 17, I'll turn it back over to Mark to summarize our key messages.
Thanks, Jim our second quarter performance demonstrated resiliency of our business model and highlighted the strong execution of our global teams as we delivered healthy operating margins in what we believe is undoubtedly trough period of a code crisis.
The decisive actions, we took mitigated significant volume loss across the globe and helped ensure we continued to sustain strong margins in the future.
Additionally, we continued to maintain a very strong liquidity position and remain firmly committed to driving our business towards our leverage go to two X over long term.
As we continue to invest in operation and prioritize and digital transformation journey, we're positioning ourselves to win in May eventually economic recovery.
These continued investments and resilient year to date performance give us confidence in our ability to drive long term value for shareholders and now we will end our formal remarks and open it up for questions.
Certainly at this time, if you'd like to ask your question. Please press star one on your telephone keypad, Susan Mcclary with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Thank you good morning, and well done for the quarter guys. Thanks. Thank you.
My first question is just you know Mark you mentioned that you are 80% done with the cost actions that you plan to take can you maybe give us a bit more color on how much of that is structural versus discretionary and maybe how we should be thinking about rolling through as we think about the margin trajectory, especially maybe going into 2021.
John.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I would particularly like to refer to page 26.
Slide presentation, because that breaks down exactly what you asked for so first of all we are very confident on 500 million total cost take out for Twentytwenty.
As we said in his prepared remarks.
500, or more of which 150 is roughly raw material.
I wouldn't call that structural and other remaining free on 50 barriers about 100 million, which on non structural like furloughs, our travel expense reduction.
Well, there's 250 million structural actions, which we largely.
Implemented in the second quarter, but from what the 80% refers to which of course will have an impact has some impact already in Q2, but the large impact is in the second half.
We'll be by definition to fit for the fact of account, yes, theres a carry over impact of a structural actions into 21.
Keep in mind and also an excessive we're running the comparison over non structural actions. So you mitigate some of that so yes varies a carryover impact of restructuring actions.
Mitch.
Robbing the bulk of 50 to 100 million carried over into 21.
Okay. That's helpful. Thank you and then.
Some of the movements, we saw this quarter, especially as it relates to covert it seems like maybe there was some shifts in market share that happen can you talk a little bit too that give us some sense of how you expect that to trend as we've now kind of emerged from the kind of real key parts of Covance and are getting to perhaps a more stable.
Operating environment.
Susan are you, referring to North America globally, Yes, I'm, sorry, North America, Yes, yes, So North America and as we highlighted in our March.
We saw in particular first of all throughout the entire quarter of the demand impact both in less pronounced than any of market around the world and Thats. Just the result of key challenge the remaining open and frankly Elizabeth consumers benefiting from the government stimulus program.
Having cash available so combination of relatively solid demand in stores remaining open net to probably less of a severe impact in the second quarter number markets.
Adam mines.
Equal we kept our factories running through the entire second quarter, the coal would impact on the supply chain is relevant.
It comes back to social distancing in factories.
How you prepare factories for its you have you could have ads tempur shutdown in factory because of flare ups and we'll assess component challenges coming out of Mexico that in mind, and particularly the last six weeks of a quarter we were supply constraints.
And then let to market share loss over Nostix meets in North America. We are now we have working through that and out of it.
But I also want to be mindful of as long as covances around us barriers of certain.
Risk to the supply chain.
We work on existing challenges and we're confident we will get them behind us, but the risks remain throughout the rest of the year as long as cold as relative.
Curtis Nagle with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Good morning, Thanks, very much work for taking my questions.
So Jim a question.
Just.
If we could breakouts.
The 118 billion.
And.
In.
Cost taken out related to restructure.
With that attributable to co 19, and how much would you buckets of North America.
And then just could you give a little bit more detailed terms or what exactly these costs were triggered listen we're too.
Triple too.
Sixtyl, reducing the cost structure then.
Why are they being stripped out there.
For now things that are.
At a onetime ish in the quarter award at least kind of the.
What happened here.
So so Kurt I believe what you're talking about incremental restructuring cost that we added on and obviously this this is significantly related to the downturn in volume that we had which is a onetime type of events in terms of a pandemic in the need to reduce our cost structure at a higher level than we had a.
Dissipated I mean, if you want to think about that it kind of happens pretty ratably across the globe as you look at it because this is the portion. The initial 100 million was the restructuring we were doing mainly within EMEA around the closure of the Naples factory in a few other things. These incremental actions are being implemented across the globe almost an equal amount to about where revenues are.
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Most of these are the majorities bar people costs and Thats just the reduction that you see we did a couple different things here is one we ran a discretionary early retirement program within the us.
Additionally, we had some involuntary layoffs that we also did throughout the process. So using both of those tools. Those are would add up to most of those costs there and as I said you just got to think about it it's pretty even across the globe because we've taken actions everywhere to bring our business in line with the volume that we see for this year the.
Actual risks, we see going forward.
Okay understood.
Maybe just a quick what kind of shifting back to us and the promotional environment.
As I understand it it was.
Pretty subdued assay kind of similar to what you saw in once you for obvious reasons terms of local demand.
Did you think there any risks kind of going forward as the operational and kind of demand environment normalizes.
Pick up in promotional intensity or competition from.
Some of your competitors.
Yeah, George its Marxists, as we're not making forward looking statements and promotion promotion environment and I don't know, but compares we'll be doing I.
I would say, but Q2 promotion environment is incentive for our unusual.
Because these far case, we decide there's no point in promoting products, which you don't have available some expense and that by.
Q2, both subdued.
In addition, you had a very peculiar demand situation vis vis the drive towards freezes fridges et cetera.
Nothing in Q2 versus normal in that respect.
Q3 keep in mind, maybe we'll be supply constrains also throughout Q3, so I'm not quite sure I would take a broader promotion Maher MCU free is representative of a normalized market environment.
Eric Bosshard with Cleveland Research your line is open.
Hi, good morning, Thank you.
Eric.
On the revenue side.
It sounds like the adjustments of the full year, you attributed exclusively to the twoq better than expectations am I, saying that right that you Havent had a different view on the second half revenue outlook from what you had said previously.
And I guess the follow up within that is why not.
Eric.
Fundamental yes, the numbers are similar to what we laid out before in Q2 came in stronger.
The color I want to provide an addition.
And we alluded to refund in the in the prepared remarks, we feel very good about July and August.
So to nine August remains as strong as June.
We are cautious about what happened September December there's just too much uncertainty.
In the foremost what happens when from government stimulus tapers off.
You know how people react to cold and consumer demand, we don't know how unemployment.
Be dealt with and how it impacts consumer demand. So so in a certain way, yes, we factored in but caution in our second have outlook.
If it doesnt materialize, yes, but it will be better.
Uses July and August.
And actually looks pretty good.
And then I guess related to that in terms of your supply chain and I'm sure. The whole industry has got supply chain limitations, but in terms of your supply chain limitations to participate and better industry demand.
Are you now at the point, where you're running full speed and you can do what others are doing in the industry or at what point will you be able to be fully participating in the industry recovery that's taking place.
This is Eric first of all we we never shut down our factories and I'm talking about the factory. So of course every part of award is slightly different.
When you fundamentally to understand when you make factory pool.
Morrissey because you can do.
Because of social distancing.
Operating in the factors because you physically have to extend the line spacing on an assembly line et cetera.
Because of risk, which you have flaring up of case in certain locations and frankly also higher absenteeism, which we are experiencing right now.
Can never even if you run the factory Yukon run into dominance in capacity Ventas and throughout deal Scolded. In addition, the Mexican components, which are delivered into our factory.
We had some challenges because.
Mexico situation is into 40 more complicated because the decision about if in fact from can operate or not is delegated to the states in Mexico and delegated to individual health inspectors and that drove just a lot of stopping goes not as he said before it's not only impacting us it's I would assume it impacts of entire industry.
These over two fundamental elements in Michigan, So as I said before we are right now working proven known issues, it's getting better.
But again based on what we've seen in the second quarter. We should expect in Q3 in Q4, we may face similar issues and we wouldn't have to management down.
And maybe Eric I'd add to that and just say that as each week goes by we see improvements in our ability and in our suppliers ability to meet the demand but to Mark's point that there also is just a backlog of orders that we work through throughout the upcoming quarters and we know many of our competitors are in the same situation. So.
It is improving but we are still catching up to where the demand has been.
Michael Rehaut with JP Morgan Your line is open.
Hi, good morning, and congrats on the results in the tough environment.
First question I had was on.
Yes mix.
Obviously kind of a headwind from you guys. This quarter, despite the partially offset by.
The reduced induction and promotions, which makes sense.
In the backdrop in the second quarter, how are you thinking about mix in the back half, particularly in North America. As you know kind of reference last quarter that you know some of the purchases initially.
Of that real lower end.
Perhaps helped by stimulus checks or even getting second reserves or.
Have you seen mix change throughout the quarter and how does that influence you thinking about the back half.
And Mike So as we referred to earlier, our price mix for Evercore divorce negative 75 basis points important things and that probably you partially answered your question is.
But negative growth in particular in April and May and got a lot better in June or Nate mean May June and what you see in varies.
On the heavy down mix from a product mix both in particular, the beginning of kovats them and we saw very significant amount of.
No and refrigerators, microwave et cetera, and met Nick Raza Mooney is getting better.
Owners have been ending remains.
People to rediscover.
The elements of a cokers I mean, just spent time application and and Theres cash available to consumers. So that ultimately knowledge starts driving better mix. In addition, we have just less promotional investments so.
Slide, but June mix, certainly better than the negative 75 basis points, which we sold for one quarter.
And Thats, probably but June wanting to put more reflective of we might expect going forward.
I appreciate that Mark and if there's any way to talk about maybe mix turning flatter positive.
Part of that I'd appreciate it.
My second question on cost cadence, obviously remaining on track there is very encouraging a big part of the margin story, how should we think about.
The second half in terms of Threeq to Fourq you talked about.
Previously you said 70 million, maybe is a little more in the first quarter 100 million in the second.
Or when 80 combined.
How should that breakout in Q4 Q.
Yes so.
Mike If you think about it this way that leaves about 320 remaining for the rest of the year in the 500 and materials is pretty ratable throughout the year at about 100 basis points a quarter. So you can think about that's approximately maybe 70 to 80 million in the back half of the year, which leaves another 250 million of our net cost takeout that comes within this time.
And as the cost actions to begin to ramp up you could probably think about that is 40% of that may be coming in Q3, and then 60% of that remaining amount coming in Q4 would be the logical seasonality of how all these actions build so I think thats the best way to think about it.
Sam Darkatsh with Raymond James Your line is open.
Good morning, Mark Good morning, Jim I Hope you both are well.
Sam Good morning, if you.
My two questions first.
Seasonally typically whirlpool will generate so its cash flow in the back half.
Knowing that you're expecting second half sales down somewhere in that 4% to 14% range are you still are you anticipating free cash flow positive for the year, knowing that you're I think 900 million of a whole as as we stand up for the second quarter.
Yes, Sam.
Here's what I would say is we're definitely expecting positive free cash flow within the year and even look at where we are in terms of our cash usage right now compared to prior years and compared to last year were 100, almost 100 million better than we were last year at this point in time, we feel very good about where our working capital levels or from a cash flow perspective.
Obviously, our inventories have come down as we've sold a lot of product out of our inventories, but our receivables are a little bit lower in our payables are significantly lower because of the lower production volumes. So we do expect the same seasonality of cash that we see in a normal year.
And as sales pick up throughout the fourth quarter, we do expect to collect more cash so.
And the other thing I'd, probably add in within there is you'll also see in the back half of the year more of the benefit of some of the capital projects. We've been delaying as you look out throughout the year, we won't have as much outflows due to capital expenditures in the back half.
Maybe just the only additional common so yes, we're very pleased with how we measure the castle second quarter.
Yes.
By the normal seasonality go into my mistake of just adding that improvement to the full year number for this last year and marine what I'm seeing this morning.
Working capital in particularly inventory.
Cash flow are very unusual we had the highest amount of inventory reduction ever in the second quarter.
And then you rebuild inventory.
Negatively impact the working capital admitted to certain cash.
So theres, a little bit a rebalancing Romney inventories.
We expect to be completed before year end solutions more discuss economic decision, but believe we absolutely do expect positive cash flow.
And with programs that commission.
My second question revolves around us retailer inventories and their status, obviously demand sell through was really uneven and worsened.
Late in the quarter, yes, they have improved as the quarter progressed Im just trying to get a sense of where you few retailer inventories.
Are they.
What kind of shape, there and also want to category by category basis, If you could.
I mean in general terms and mine I would describe the retail inventory.
Somewhere between zero and very low.
And it's on using no frankly because.
Again, the supply comes constraints.
Have impacted the entire industry to some extent.
Large extends and as such also retailer so.
Key both in line for starting point is not every retailer has inventory may have different amount of inventories, but across the board inventory levels in the us trade is low.
Adam Baumgarten with credit Suisse. Your line is open.
Hi, because actually Myers for Adam.
Just a quick question on the restructuring cost.
You mentioned that most of the cost starting North America and we're just wondering can you with the remaining of the costs for that kind of coming second half are going to be mostly in Latin America as well.
Well as we said the actually the first 100 million were primarily in EMEA and then if you take the additional 180 in the back half of the year or the ones that we added we said that thats about ratable across the globe. So you could assume it's close to 50% of that approximately falls within the North America business just base.
What I said earlier.
Alright and.
Most of that to come in the third quarter.
I would say we expected to come through out the third in the fourth quarter, and we havent really giving given a split on that because many of those actions depending on the timing of execution and the accounting rules around how you recognize it.
It will come either in the third of the fourth quarter, but we did add incremental amount here in the second quarter also that we've already taken the charge for.
David Macgregor with Longbow Research your line is open.
Yes, good morning, everyone.
Congratulations on congratulations Mark.
Job this quarter and through a really difficult environments I guess I.
Talked a lot, but North America, let's talk about Europe and.
Encouraging to hear is were profitable in June you were profitable in the fourth quarter before this whole mess.
Got underway.
It sounds from your comments are so you're feeling good about your ability to be profitable there in the second half.
I guess I want to as a consequence of those comments maybe go back a year to your analyst day, where you talked about kind of the expectations for restoring profitability to European business.
And the thought that once you could get out of Turkey, and get the fixed cost reductions.
Regain some of the volumes.
For the first off on the journey to that longer term goal was kind of 3% to 4% margins.
So I guess I would love to get your thoughts in terms of based on kind of now getting back reestablished with some of these key retailers and getting your balance of trade backups getting your mix moving into right direction.
How patients should we be thinking about needing to be to see at least 3% to 4% kind of progress towards that longer term goal.
Yes, so David.
Europe, and particularly if you refer to a year ago.
As you.
Recall last year Q3 in Q4, we find yourself a European numbers starting to come around and we're also encouraged by what we saw certainly before code on too much February.
Now, we all know two and half quarters Omega trend, yet so but.
Of course frustrating that just than we kind of had.
Walter trending in the right way that could hit.
Coal would hit to Europe.
In a very hard way similar to what we've seen in other markets and a lot stronger than in North America, and and Brazil, because essentially had entire countries and retailer shutdown. So April may boss devastating frankly from a bottom line because you had very limited revenues and yet the fixed cost despite what you didn't call.
So April may was we were menu.
Quarterly results.
June boss solid.
In terms of being very profitable not just above breakeven, but really profitable at solid demand.
In July August also look good and frankly thats by.
Jim said earlier, we will make a profit in Q3.
And.
I think when Youre looking forward.
A question about when do we see the three or 4%.
We havent given guidance with 21 21 that will be.
Hi storm work these numbers.
Maybe not get fully to these numbers, but we.
We certainly all that in fact when 21.
In the year over year comparison, we meant we need to take off from Covidien pellets and knowing that we're on a reasonable run rate with what we expect to continuing to 21.
Okay.
Second question, maybe just talk about the builder channel North American market, and we're seeing a lot of positive indicators around residential construction.
Residential demand.
You built a nice business there over the past few years I guess, you you've been able to gain share through that channel.
Could you just remind us kind of round the parameters of that business.
The size that business profitability, how we should be thinking about the potential contribution from your builder business into the second half this year.
So so they of course spin out of time talking of Villa business. It is that particular channel as you well known I'm talking about both national builders in but smaller business, which go from home improvement channel.
In particular on the National builders on these are typically a multiyear contracts with driver exclusive with us or kind of focus maxim to suppliers.
So these are long running contract Fitch technically on the kind of purely gross margin are little bit lower but because the cost to serve our they've been lower they are very good channel for us and the profitable channel for us.
And they bring a certain continuity and and the very good effect on the builders as you know.
I was a little bit I would say.
Slow down as not surprisingly February March April, but I think a momentum, which we've seen a builder side coming out of me in June and Alpha rest of year was very strong.
And so when I refer to cautiously optimistic about the rest of a business on build as I am optimistic because the combination of low mortgage rates still undersupplied markets and the broader nesting trend, which we see across consumers.
Thing spells good news for the though the channel, which in which we are very well positions.
As you model the impact of is on keep always in mind weird, but very tail end of a value chain of a builder what I mean, if thats the appliances often off thing to begin which goes into the house. So between the housing start and assessing the revenues that Weve lines. There is typically six to nine months.
But anyway so.
I would call it but very good news down the road.
Ken Zener with.
Okay.
Thanks.
Good morning, everybody.
Okay.
Wow.
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You're talking about North America, and then just want to go into India for my second question, but the North American supply chain issues.
Can you talk about how much that might have related to that.
I wouldn't say sales shortfall.
Considering your volumes were down it sounds like you might have had more it's not for the supply chain issue your margins were.
And your North American business, you guys, obviously believe thats very solid I think your pricing discipline within a fair competitive environment is that from.
Generally it certainly by this quarter. So can you talk about this to sales shortfall how the margins were so good.
The conviction you're having around.
July and August in terms of backlog like.
Like a 5% shortfall on the supply chain issues.
And why is that not necessarily impacting margins is pricing actually good if the industry is in kind of short supply I'm just trying to.
The shortfall.
In context.
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So Ken first of all of unlike your quote Wow.
I think our our north American numbers very impressive buying definition.
And.
Just testimonial for strong business model and the strong execution of a team periods.
Not specific to your question about the supply constrained.
Keep in mind that impacted particularly the back half a quarter on so you had demand decline, which just across the board in April knee.
And then in June the demand, we're starting to recovery, we were faced with some supply constraints. So I would say of entire North America revenue drops.
Which you saw both Ron to over 30%.
Two percentage points that relates to supply, but certainly less than half invasion industry demand, which was just slowdown in April may.
But but June one with hampered so yes, we could have had seen even even quote unquote, a better revenue which constraints.
On the margin side, and again, but testimony to very strong execution it into the culmination of.
Decisive and strong cost measures taken throughout the quarter not only on cost, which we talked about but also on.
And travel expenses, all the things that were very.
Very strong discipline, how we management cost.
And then as we saw the supply constraints.
Response in terms of promotional strategy, which would be to add some term.
Well that altogether.
Net to be very strong margins and I think in the past fares not necessary, but you've had a lot of people always ask so yes, we see nava peak margins, but whatever trough margins.
If you have in North America business is tough margin of 12.6% I think it answers on lot of questions.
Yes.
The kind of highlight what what market said, there and a little bit I think a lot of the structural changes we've made over the years. His point has really put that business.
Good position to be able to deal with situations like this and especially the way we manage fixed costs over the years.
Yes, I mean, it's just.
Amazing that you are up year over year on margins.
So my second question. It was I, just I guess actually how and expand on the first but you did confirm that email you expected to be profitable in the second half is what I believe so just site.
Yes, I understand that given that type of commentary for Europe.
With margins up year over year, albeit only 20 basis points into Q is it reasonable to assume that.
Cost savings et cetera.
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Margins in North America is it realistic that they have that we'll still have a 12% EBIT handle on it I mean, there's obviously a big range. There considering last year is 12.7. So do you think this year's EBIT in North America will still have a 12% handle on it.
Okay and as you know, we don't give quarterly guidance and particularly on recent fall to the guys having said that.
So just to reconfirm, yes, we said, we expect Europe to be profitable not only second half of Q3 and Q4. So you will have.
As such in Europe, but positive margin.
And also you know North America with all these kind of revenue down 12.6 in Q2.
I would also expect a solid performance or strong performance in Q3 in Q4.
To be a little bit more specific and again I'm.
Going to give quarterly guidance, but I think you heard before we feel very good about July and August our July and August company margins will be very good.
We just not yet certain about voted all means for September October November December.
Macro uncertainties.
Around us but.
Short term horizon, we're very bullish.
And can maybe to add on on the EMEA piece. The reason we have confidence in the back half of the year is April and May were the biggest declines when you look at the down 20% revenues.
And as Mark said, the order pipeline or the orders in June and order pipeline early in Q3 has been very strong. Additionally, the cost actions that we're taking their just due to the amount of time it takes to implement come more in the back half of the year. So that's why we feel confident in Q3 will begin to show a profit again.
Seldon Clarke with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. So you mentioned back half guidance being basically unchanged from the topline perspective, and I understand the uncertainty here, but.
Just given the stronger than expected topline trends in the second quarter. How are you now thinking about underlying decremental margins.
Either in the back half or for the full year.
Well, what I would say is seldom this you look out throughout the back half of the year and we begin to see demand recovering.
We've always said that that again incremental volume has about a 20% impact on it now.
You can kind of take that and assume that thats the impact of the volume down, but as we set our cost savings or more than offsetting a lot of that in the back half of the year as we look at it and I think thats. The key thing to think about there when we talked about the seasonality of the cost savings earlier so.
Again, we think the back half of the year will not be is have a significant have an impact as the SEC, obviously, the second quarter did.
But nothing's changed from our assumptions around how you should look at that.
Okay. So so still the same framework to the full year number that you provided on the last call. Okay.
And then so I guess if you if you look at the breakdown of your father milling cost takeout.
About half of the structural on.
And so if same start to normalize next year as it relates to co that people can travel again and raw material costs, and I know, you're not giving 2020 on guidance, but but under that scenario.
Where those items do normalize how should we think about the margin profile of the business beyond 2020.
Is there any anything you've learned in terms of some of these non structural actions are discretionary cost takeouts that that could potentially be more structural or is it fair to say at this point that.
50% of this 500 million could potentially reverse and a more normalized environment. So just how do we think about.
The margin profile in that scenario.
Yes.
It's maybe.
I guess it from a nature of non structural actions that we don't expect them to fully repeat next year.
And what I was referring to furloughs et cetera, we don't expect that would happen again.
Travel expenses will come back to your point, maybe not to what extend as we've seen in prior years, because people would have probably different behaviors.
So yes, we're not counting on a repeat of 100 million.
Might we be creative in terms of developing ideas, which comes out of it experience for next year, yes, we could be but we've been at one point be just part of our structural cost actions.
Structural cost actions, but one which also to some extend to large extreme.
Our behind these restructuring actions, yes, we do expect will carry over and that ultimately will provide us with a better structural cost position as a company.
Yes for next year, and certainly we expect a better revenue line, maybe not fully back to a 19 that was hitting structurally better cost structure.
I think maybe the other thing to learnings that I would add to that is the agility that we've had as we've had to deal with Swift volume and revenue declines in dealing with our discretionary cost base.
I think demonstrates that in times when the investment will provide a return we will continue to make it in times when we need to pull some that back and because the return is not there we have the ability to adjusted so while some of these are non structural they are things we have control over and I think we've demonstrated our ability to quickly react and control those costs.
Mike Dahl with RBC capital markets. Your line is open.
Good morning, Thanks for taking my questions and.
Helpful color so far.
Just back on the North American supply chain dynamics.
Helpful outlining the.
Some of the revenue side I think if we look at the at the margin bridge that went into part if what was 300 basis point headwind.
Which was partially offset by cost actions as we think about that split of margin dynamic in Twoq. You are how much was directly related to the production yields and some of the other supply chain issues that that is still.
Going to carry forward and second half.
So Mike I think is you look at that that 300 basis point. This is Jim as you look at that 300 basis point impact that we had a big portion of that is due to the reduced production levels due to safety requirements. We had to put in due to supplier issues. All the thing that mark talked about before.
I think to put it in context, the easiest way to think about it look at our inventory numbers and the trends in our inventory numbers and typically in Q1 in Q2, we build inventory as we head into our prime season, but as we had supply constraints, we were actually reducing our inventory levels by about 400 million in the second quarter and on a year over year basis, it's about a five.
Hundred million dollar difference so that has thats what causes that significant impact and as you build inventory back to normal that begins to to wash out.
Got it okay. Thanks.
And then just second question.
A quick follow up on the on the.
Again, North America and then.
Sell out versus sell in its still sounds like despite the.
Despite some of those complete the constraints sorry, you may have still seeing a bit better sell in than those sellout trends.
On the on the graph showing in the slide deck and the U.S., but just wanted to.
Clarify whether or not there were when we're looking at specifically to the last four or five.
So the quarter, whether you're so in trends were better than dose.
Sellout charts that suggests no Mike exit I'd, probably say, it's about the opposite and it's mainly because what what mark talked about earlier, one with the supply constraints that we had retail is their inventory levels actually we are going down as their sellout increased and are still into that demand into them was below what they were cell.
Looking out so if anything right now we also talked about that we have a significant number of orders that were working through to provide to our customers thats an excess of the normal backlog we might have so if anything I do believe sellout was stronger than sell in within the quarter.
And Thats why we also believe and we're confident in the demand were seeing here in July and August and the amount of orders were seeing.
So let me wrap up here now and wrapping up the acuity first of all time. Thank you all for joining.
Thank you heard us today talking about.
Of course business loss impact of pandemic as expected.
I think you got a sense, we're actually proud of how our company our people mantra is crisis.
And we are proud about kind of margins, which were delivering despite the strong impacts from pandemic.
I think Q2 positions us very well for the back half.
Both in terms of what we've done in cost actions, what we've done on a management business in a more angina manner.
Well position, but you also hurt were a little bit cautious does what happened September to December and Mitch just prudent which develop as you go from his crisis.
But I feel very good about how companies position to date and how we're looking at the rest of the year.
And I'm looking forward to talk to you in our next earnings call.
The safe and healthy thanks, a lot.
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