Q2 2020 TriState Capital Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you for joining us this morning.
Early five months since fiscal policy makers or the government initiated an extraordinary efforts to respond to the pandemic and its impact on the economy Tristate Capital's differentiated business model continues to empower us to meet the needs of our clients and deliver responsible growth in any environment.
Together with credit quality and balance sheet shred.
Scale, but one capital efficient operations and a responsible funding capability.
Model has enabled tristate capital back at Chartwell investment partners to provide an exceptional experience to our sophisticated clients.
We also continued to expand our advisor type work and client base during the second quarter.
Each of our private banking middle market commercial banking investment management business is growing meaningfully during the quarter.
Balance sheet surpassed the $9 billion milestone with ones growing year to date by more than 18% on your wife.
Supporting our goal is 15% to 25% when growth for full year 2020.
This is all organic loan growth and does not include PPP, where they are other onetime programs.
At the same time, we maintain what we believe our best in class asset quality metrics, but the second quarter 20 Twond.
We fully expect Tristate capital's business model will continue to build provide us with very low annual credit cost relative to peers, even as we prudently build loan loss reserves for adverse scenarios.
Our objective has always been to outperform in times of credit volatility.
Capturing risk adjusted profitability.
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Our highly scalable bridge this model and operating leverage also continue to distinguish this company.
The bank sufficiency ratio declined to an all time low 50 point, 39% in the second quarter down some 477 basis points for many years ago period.
Total revenue grew to more than $46 million. So the second quarter up 7.6% from a year ago period.
Outpacing a 1.9% increase in non interest expense.
In addition, second quarter non interest expense of $28 billion is 34% lower than the average back with $5 billion to $10 billion in assets.
Our annualized expense to average assets ratio, which gets one point, 22% and the second quarter for more than 120 basis points below average.
For similar sized specs.
The topline was also supported by noninterest income, which represented nearly 28% of revenue in the quarter.
In addition to the Chartwell piece, we had very strong swap fee income of $3.8 million from those private banking and commercial banking clients.
Oh this was accomplished with our high performing workforce largely operating remotely while simultaneously maintain hallmark levels of personalized unresponsive service.
Frankly, I believe this kind of these relationships with our clients and financial intermediaries have never been stronger and we are inspired by the trust and confidence they place and Tristate capital Bank at Chartwell investment partners.
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It's creating significant momentum that doesn't turn driving chartwells new institutional.
Retail business positive net inflows and AOMT growth.
Chartwell assets under management ended the quarter at 9.3 billion.
That's 1 billion to higher than at the ended the first quarter and 1.6 billion ahead of AOL on March 20, Threerd, which was the market's trough for chartwell.
Market appreciation of 856 million contributed the chart was growth in the second quarter, demonstrating the positive impact of having diversified active management strategies with nearly 40% of the U.M. in equities and just over 60% in fixed income.
[noise] chartwell generated fees from 7.7 million comprising 60% of noninterest income during the second quarter with an average fee rate of 35 basis points Chartwells annual run rate revenue grew nearly 12% during the second quarter 2020 to 32 million lunch.
June Thirtyth.
[noise] highly credible performance of Chartwell strategies supported by our sophisticated sales in financial services distribution capability continues to attract institutional and retail cut counts in the first half of the here chartwell attractive positive net inflows of under.
32 million, which 75 million or that production coming during second quarter 2020.
Chartwells momentum, it's evident and the breadth of its relationships today. It has more than 325 institutional clients more than 2500 retail clients and nearly 40000 mutual fund shareholders.
Financial Advisors can also accessed chartwell products for their clients in sub 50 retail platforms.
Looking ahead chart. We're currently has an excess of $140 million on commitments and its new business pipeline to be funded in the third quarter from institutional investors alike.
In addition, chartwell has meaningful activity in institutional searches and finals and its performance continues to be very strong as we go into the second half of the here, we could not be proud her up the chartwell team and the momentum there engineering, particularly given the broader economic environment.
Turning to our banking business and liquidity, you'll recall that in mid March we accelerated deposit gathering in anticipation of clients potential credit needs at the outset or the pin doesn't like in the U.S.
Accordingly deposits grew by 69% annualized during the first quarter and the second quarter, our branch listen response and funding mechanism enabled us to manage deposit growth.
2.5% annualized.
Actual client needs for the foreseeable future became clearer and more stable.
We continue to actively marriage deposits excess liquidity to match, what we expect to be continued organic loan growth.
[noise] funding costs declined significantly to 0.87% in the second quarter down by 155 basis points from 2.42% same period last year.
Reserves, the average yield declined to 2.69% and the second quarter and we maintain interest rate floors on 55% of our total loan portfolio.
Net interest margin was 1.2% and the second quarter inclusive of the effects of the enhanced liquidity position, we carried in the quarter, we expect them to stabilize in that range and the second half of the year.
In terms of commercial banking, we're very pleased with this business execution in the second quarter eight per se annualize commercial loan growth you saw was entirely from our core business focused on serving middle market businesses with revenue up 10 to 300 million.
We continue to add meaningful new relationships and expand engagements with existing clients.
In the first quarter lets a third of our you know I loan growth was from that increases in credit line utilization in the second quarter. The $38 million decline. This year I balances was fully attributed to that pay down some credit lines offsetting 155 million a new seen I loans originated in the core.
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Our 1.2 billion dollar commercial and industrial portfolio also remains well diversified our single largest borrower category remains financial services insurance, representing some 30% obscene iOS.
Our $2 billion commercial real estate portfolio.
Also well diversified by industry property type geography, and sponsor because the majority in multi family and other income producing real estate projects. We continue to have limited exposure to some of the businesses that may be most directly impacted by covert 19, social distance seen inquired teens tone.
Only about 6% of Tristate capital's more than 7 billion dollar loan portfolio. These credits or underwritten with our traditional focus on strong sponsor support and recourse for example, $45 million to hotels 18 million related to restaurant operations 47 million to senior housing.
23 million to non renewable energy distribution in production and 314 million in commercial real estate lending the projects, where the retail component.
Our exposure to retail related CRT loans is very modest at about 4% appliance and we're confident our borrowers and the composition of that sleep or the C. R E book.
These are full banking relationships with corresponding deposits and Treasury management services.
Over 70% of our retail related project sponsors did not request cobot 19 deferrals. The average rent collection rate, it's been about 68% on these projects ended the quarter. We have no indoor mall related exposures are five largest tenant exposures represented about 25%.
Retail related commercial real estate tenancy encompassing government as well as major brokerage pharmacy convenient store and Super Center chain tenants, our average loan size for retail related commercial real estate is about $3 million.
What our first quarter call reported that we develop customize the pearl arrangements with fewer than 100 loans as of April 15th.
Totaling some 378 million representing less than 6% of all loans.
As we shared then in April we were prepared for another 100 million or so of additional deferrals.
And we're pleased to report that modifications remain below that level.
As of July 15th we have just over 100 learners with deferrals totaling approximately $437 million and continuing to represent about 6% of total loans importantly, 48% of these bars are scheduled to resumed normal debt service payments in the third quarter.
We believe many clients are gaining confidence in their ability to operate Jordan and national health crisis, which is reducing the need for deferrals the pace in shape of any broader economic recovery will influence how these numbers play out but based on what we see today deferrals are moving into right direction.
As loans grow grew by a 213 million in the second quarter adverse rated credits actually declined by nearly $2 million to 33 million or 46 basis points of total loans on June thirtyth.
Nonperforming loans were less than $7 million worth nine basis points of our more than 7 billion dollar loan portfolio on June thirtyth.
The increase in nonperformance during the second quarter is primarily due to a single commercial real estate loan that company beliefs as well capitalized.
Well collateralized and adequately reserved for the sponsors challenges are not primarily a result of the deck. In addition sought a single out of the remainder of our portfolio is over 30 days past. Due this is obviously a very powerful metric and very typical for our company given our.
Differentiated brand portfolio.
We increased our allowance by 35% in the second quarter and.
And 65% in the first half the year, primarily reflecting our general reserve build.
Standing at more than 23 million the allowance represent 75 basis points commercial loans were 32 basis points, a total loans, including those collateralized by marketable securities.
As we shared with you in April we currently expect implements Cecil on December 31st based on what we know today, we estimate allowance to range from 30 to 35 million on December 30, Onest, representing 85 to 105 basis points of commercial loans or Ford.
50 basis points of total loans.
Asset quality continues to be adept differentiator for tristate capital.
Our middle market commercial lending approach in our disciplined process for these credits is a key factor in our success [noise].
First and foremost we're fortunate to be able to work some of the highest quality middle market sponsors in our markets thanking proven and established operators our risk profile reflects the intentional selection of commercial clients markets and products as well as industry and geographic diversity just as important.
The considerable investments we've made to build our top notch credit analytical Seth.
In addition to our bank President and commercial President a regional presidents and seven commercial relationship managers average.
30 Years' experience managing these loans, our chief credit officer leads a team up to doesn't credit analyst.
For commercial real estate, specifically Adriana, let's not HRC already credits with average of 16 years experience at least the decade in that business.
We believe this level of credit analyst experience is a major differentiator for us.
Weve long made these career positions, where analysts can advance professionally and see a path to six figure income.
Consequently, we're able to recruit and retain top talent our analysts scrutinized individual credits.
And create positive friction with relationship managers in the field to ensure we are properly managing and pricing risk.
Another key factor to our commercial credit quality is the continual oversight. We may change [noise]. For example, every criticized risk rating is reviewed monthly by a special assets Committee, including Executive management.
Every loan that is past rated is reviewed regularly by a component of our credit Committee.
We also engaged an outside independent party to perform a quarterly portfolio review and have done so since 2008.
For new commercial loan opportunities each requires approval from our credit Committee, which would include includes but it's not limited to me the president of the back our CFO and our Chief Credit Officer.
And no single person at the company, including me has any individual commercial lending authority. All decisions are made by this committee.
In response to the current economic environment. We have also been in contact with every single project sponsor regardless of Reighty monitoring.
Occupancy rent collection and sponsor liquidity.
The underwriting and credit management displays married with a commitment to providing accountability responsiveness and an exceptional client experience to those we serve our relationships with these clients and the strength of our sponsors really are the foundation of our commercial real estate business.
For our private banking business Tristate, capital's unmatched distribution capability processes teams and advisor relationships are operating as design.
This was clear in that second quarter 2020, well, we delivered 15% annualized growth in private banking loans with record period end balances for this product surpassing $4 billion for the first time.
Tristate capital also process, the new record number of private bank applications for high net worth borrowers through independent investment Advisors and trust officers and our referral network of now 225 financial intermediary firms.
His applications were up 6% for the first quarter and 49% for the second quarter last year. Our digital lending platform also continues to help our team to provide an exceptional client experience during his start financial market volatility, while maintaining this business eminently scalable.
Tristate Capital's private banking loans are primarily over collateralized by high net worth borrowers liquid marketable securities portfolios monitor daily through our proprietary technology. They are subject to favorable treatment under bank regulatory capital requirements and require no reserve these loans remain our law.
Our adjusted fastest growing category of blending represented 57% of EUR 7 billion in total loans private they close taken together with cash and securities represent 61% of the company's snow <unk> go yet it assets.
[noise] overall, we remain focused on responsible growth for all stakeholders, while building, an incredible franchise of valuable and meaningful relationships, rather clients and financial intermediaries.
So as some of you may have heard me say this is a company for all seasons Tristate Capital's design to not only whether challenging environments for profitably grow and adapt during this them as well our business model has been tested and has proven its resilience and effectiveness and we believe it will actually grow even stay.
Longer tristate capital's robust and in an elevated suite of products services and technology are designed specifically for the sophisticated and you know eight clients, we serve to support our men and confidence that each of our businesses provides to the others creates premium value to our.
Company as a whole with a strong and liquid balance sheet and ever growing distribution network and a team that excels at servicing clients regionally in nationwide remain focused on delivering responsible and sustainable growth over the long term that concludes my prepared remarks. This morning, I'll now ask gave it to join me for Q.
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David Good morning.
Hey, Mike.
Thanks for taking the questions wanted to start.
To do with David just on the liquidity side I mean, it seemed like maybe there was a bit more build early in the quarter and now that you guys saw some drawdown on based on the kind of the disparity between the average at period end balances I was wondering if you comment on that and maybe just give us a little insight as to how you kind of see the the cash and investment book size, we are tracking all over the.
Near term here given all the you know kind of activity related pandemic.
Sure I'd be happy to Mike So in the in the quarter first and foremost we're focused on helping our clients navigate a couple of 19, you know advances in Iraq.
And so we were building liquidity as we talk to you about in March but we also don't liquidity in April and May.
To make sure we understood and we're ready to.
Addressed our clients' needs.
As those needs became more clear to us in second half quarter, we started to move down our liquidity in a steady and very client focused a fashion.
As deposits continue to reprice during the quarter, we continue to deploy that liquidity. So once you will see Mike is NIM starting to stabilize as Jim mentioned this quarter and I know in high growth will start to return in the second half year I might mention that this was all terrain against the backdrop.
Of LIBOR compressing significantly from about 90 points to about 80 basis points of spread between line more effective fed funds.
And so you'll see us fully dot liquidity in the second half the year and you'll continue to see us reprice our possible.
For instance for repricing, our Cds now or extending duration on the CD Sem, we're putting new money on about 25 30 basis points, which is about half of where our deposit pricing is right now.
We're also going to gradually reduce the amount of deposit book linked yeah.
The fed funds.
That's declining from about 40% of the book a few quarters ago too about mid Thirtys now and you'll see that continues to decline in so a little bit of compression in NIM.
Caused by a couple of that liquidity will come down over the next couple of quarters.
We continue to remain focused first and foremost on client needs. This quarter in every quarter and we believe what that focus they'll continue to reward us for new business and.
Appreciate that we take long term.
Hello, David Thank you and then yeah, maybe a question on.
Capital you guys race some debt.
The ratio nudged up 5% in the quarter up a little bit sequentially, I guess kind of a two part question I guess one do you think you know some of those did the Capitol building trends.
Good to continue moving forward and then two can you just maybe give us a little insight about how you kind of balance you, obviously have the lower risk balance sheet, which need less capital than traditional peers, but youre growing and presumably I imagined there'll be some opportunities to grow as we come out of pandemic year and haven't capital on hand to kind of take advantage of some of those opportunities. Some some insight there would be great. Thank you.
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Thanks, Mike.
I'm going to give you.
Sort of a an overview on on this and what is foremost.
Should be cap in mind is we're building a business here and as we are aware that the second quarter created challenges for our clients in our industry. We're proud of the results of this quarter considering the circumstances that we function under the effectiveness of our business model would certainly proven in the first two quarters.
The year, but from a capital standpoint, we produced.
What I consider to be meaningful capital organic growth of $16 million and that was driven really by our net income of 8.4 million and improvement of our fair value of our investments of some seven and a half million. So essentially you.
Earnings were utilized to strengthen.
Strengthen capital and as you pointed out we were in the in the marketplace and actively raised about another $95 million. So the additional capital.
If you look at the increase in our net interest income.
It actually increase some 7% over the second quarter 2019.
And what you saw that that's looking out at from somewhat below a longer term perspective, but it's only a year, but if you want to look at the deposit costs, they dropped from 41.4% compared to the first quarter of 2020.
And noninterest income.
And we have to look at other aspects of our revenue growth. Our noninterest income was up 8.3% over the second quarter 19.
During what all of us would consider somewhat of a volatile market and the stock bond market and interest rates.
Our revenue total revenue was up 7.6% over the second quarter 19, and we had a bank efficiency ratio up some 50 point, 39%. So noninterest expense increased some 1.9% from the second quarter 19, but and this is.
Important because I consider this statistic to be really the core of this company pretax pre provision net revenue was up 18% over the second quarter 2019, that's pretty consequential.
Chartwell rebounded quickly and is well positioned from a performance and financial metric standpoint for the remainder of the year.
The asset quality continued through this whole period of time to be best of class, we increased our allowance spice up 65% and the first half of the year.
Our commitment to responsible growth continues to be strong and meet our expectations and this commitment is clearly reflected and the results that we've got if you take a longer term perspective over the past 10 years, which we have charged off net charge offs up 37 million dollar.
Cars over 10 years and over the past five years, it's $5 million.
In our 7 billion dollar loan portfolio today, we only have one alone one loan that's past due 30 days or more.
The provision level has been earned by this company the loan portfolio. It's been designed to perform in the environment that we find ourselves that we have no dividend expense no interest rate risks variable expenses, obviously by rate by looking at the income statement that we produce.
Meaningful Lee lower risk profile, and a consequential focus on noninterest income.
On the net interest margin, we believe the NIM as David was alluding to is bottomed in the second quarter.
The liquidity was put on the books by design and we clearly mentioned in the first ER and the first quarter.
Discussion that it was a risk management tool and the time of stress and distress disease and it's been put to work and what I would suggest we note the growth in the investment portfolio the meaningful growth that has occurred over the this quarter.
And a reminder, on net interest margin.
It really has a very limited focus it doesn't take into account.
Expenses credit profile noninterest income duration.
And the other thing that's worth pointing out is these floors that we put in place are on as I mentioned earlier, 55% of our loan portfolio over $3.9 billion. So this 7 billion dollar portfolio has floors and they were still being put in place.
Base in April and May.
And they average look at the full portfolio. They averaged 60 to 90 basis points across the full portfolio.
And David was recently alluding to.
Where LIBOR spin and.
We've seen it 16, 17 18 basis points.
We have given clear guidance in the first and second quarter that the provision will continue to grow over the next few quarters and we fully anticipate that our provision will be in line with the Cecil requirement and the first quarter of 2021.
The loan yield drop it was clearly offset by the decrease in the deposit costs.
Excess liquidity is still on the balance sheet in the second quarter and created approximately a five basis point drag or on the net interest margin. So the reason I'm taking this time is so everyone on the call here can clearly understand.
How we look at it so we continue to invest in our clients and our people our technology and infrastructure for the future and if one was merely look at our income statement you can see that we spent some $2.4 million in the quarter on technology.
Yet beat consensus by 50% from an earnings standpoint, So the fact first half of the year. We look at is laid a strong foundation for the remainder of the year. So we look at this as a critical a quarter. The we got through very successfully due to the people working.
At this company and the commitment that they may.
So I hope I answered your question.
The next question from Matt Olney Stephens. Please go ahead.
Thanks, Good morning, and.
Hey, good morning, David.
Do you have as you noted the operating expenses increased just 2% year over year.
Impressive cost controls, especially considering a few years ago expenses would be a 10 or 12% per year.
As you look forward what type of expense growth should we be anticipating from here.
Oh, how are you were talking to me, but where I allow a David Dms to speak I I think I've commented a lot lately.
So now let me build off a couple of things that Jim talked about a minute ago.
Charles done a great job this year reexamining cost that they are incurred to run their business operations and without impacting growth or the experience of the client experience they've been able to meaningfully reduce operating expenses by 9%. This year for the entire franchise operating expenses are up about five in.
A half percent driven almost entirely by FDIC insurance premiums, which is the costs necessary to carry the excess liquidity.
Which will deploy as we've talked about.
Importantly, the efficiency ratio continues to improve and as Jim mentioned is just slightly over 50% order.
We continue to build scaling our business is providing clients with a highly differentiated experience and we're really focused on continuing to drive operating leverage as we talk to you about asset we've achieved about 300 basis points of operating leverage up so far. This year. I think is you look forward to the remainder of the year our goal.
Just to keep the efficiency ratio at the bank in that same range it might bump around a little bit quarter to quarter, but we believe we've achieved scale necessary to continue to run this business and we don't expect other than compensation costs, which are variable in nature and tied to the performance of loan growth swap.
Swap income and.
Chartwell performance.
Expenses should be muted.
Okay, Thats helpful, adding going back to discussion around.
The the net interest income and the margin you've talked about liquidity levels and why that was.
Elevate into Q, I guess I'm still unclear on the path the loan yield I.
I mean look forwards are being put in I appreciate that but.
Where do you loan yields go from here compared to Twoq you levels.
So I think you mentioned about 55% of our book has floors in place right now those floors matter, depending on the loan or somewhere between 50, and 75 basis points and as you know those floors don't expire or they just go away as rates move up we're putting new commercial real estate loans on a year.
One of 325 to 375.
Commercial and industrial loans are going on the books somewhere between.
250 in 350, and private banking loans are going on.
25 to 295 total yield so that's where we're positioned us where we grow the portfolio for the second half of the year.
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Morning, guys running down.
So first the a 437 million in deferrals can you talk about where those are are coming from terms of the superior cnine and which sub segments as possible.
Dan there, mostly CRT are there some mix, but they're mostly CRT, let me give you a little bit of data in terms of what we're seeing in a major.
About 40% as Jim alluded to have indicated to us that they're going to resume.
Payment in the third quarter, an additional 17% of those loans have indicated that they're going to resume payments in the fourth quarter. Some up 63% in total those loans have indicated that they're going to resume payments during the third and fourth quarter, the remaining loans or not well continue within the deferral period.
You know we underwrote those trials in March and we're reviewing them regularly weren't touch with the client and overall each of those borrowers continues to perform better than what Wheeler underground in March but you get back to your.
Original question about two thirds of those deferrals or in commercial real estate.
Pro rate is across the you know the commercial book.
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Yeah, No I was just I was just asking if there if there was a little bit more information you're able to ride in terms of within the CRT book, if that was more broad based.
The deferrals or four if there was any particular sub segments that you were seeing the deferrals.
Oh, it's it's fairly broad based there's not a specific industry arch year geographic area that is concerning to us it's pretty broad based I think Dan in the script, we mentioned that 70% of the retail oriented CRT.
Did not apply for a any type of relief.
And I guess, the one of the one one item that Jim talked about $44 million hotels, obviously hotels are seeking referrals and so that that entire 44 million dollar exposure.
Those loans of are under forget, but that's about the only maybe I could go over for you if you're really trying to.
Look at this carefully the co good related end of it where we have about a 6% exposure, which is a pretty limited compared to some of the other institutions. If you look at the hotels, we have an exposure $45 million.
There are seven loans there.
One of the loans is financing for a a ground lease with an operating a marriott build on the land and that has 2.3 million outstanding.
It is non recourse, but the LTV is 65%.
The other non recourse and this is up a a doubletree hotel, it's about 10.9 million outstanding 65% LTV, but I should point out that the sponsor here currently has on deposit with US and has had on deposit.
Stick with us money of this size for quite some time today. He has some $81 million with us on deposit.
And then the rest of the five loans. The 31.6 are all recourse and there's five loans. There. If you look at the foodservice industry.
We have seven loans that are spread between.
ER three companies the largest slump in southern ethanol in the smallest one 3.7 million on the.
Senior housing we have eight was a little over $39 million of Outstandings.
And one loan is up in assisted living nature 8.3 million and.
The other skilled nursing and that's that that could that group of seven alliances third 30.9 million outstanding.
On the health care side, Theres, five loans 24.1 million outstanding.
And.
That's a pretty good outline of Oh this whole portfolio what I can tell you is all these are paying as agreed.
All right that's great detail I appreciate all that and then if I if I can just kind of shift over to the balance sheet growth here for a second.
You talk about how the you know the increased uncertainty in the current environment has impacted your lending both in the in the private banking segment as well as on the commercial side.
Well I would say on a private price on the up let's start with the commercial side.
I would indicate to you that were up our anticipated growth. This year in that area is going to be a in the high single digits were around 10, 11%.
Most and a if you look at the passed a 24 months, it's been a and the.
Mid to high 20, 20% range on the private banking.
We feel a high level confidence in that book of business and we believe it will be in the 20% to 25% range and I believe that you're going to see that portfolio being about 60% of left portfolio at the end of next year.
Terrific. Thanks, very much that's all my questions.
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Hey, good morning, guys are Russell.
I wanted to just quickly follow up on the deferral conversation. Please so of the roughly 35% of that exposure that.
Is at that time, not expected to resume normal debt service by the end of the year. One do you guys consider these to be higher risk exposures given that they're in a forbearance program currently.
And if they don't returned by the end of the your how's that going to migrate whether its into criticized classified or TD ours, and what impact would that have on the reserve.
So Russell doesn't just to be clear the remaining a portion of those loans are within the different periods. When we originally underwrote in March and were in touch those folks and so they still could enter repayment by the ended the year. We just we haven't confirmed that with them yet or not they haven't indicated that to us.
But as we continue to evaluate each of those credits there are none at this point that we're worried about you know Jim mentioned that there aren't any delinquencies defaults or losses emerging in the portfolio yet and so we we are not we're not concerned about that remaining 30 plus percent at this point.
Well, we'll continue to keep you posted an update you in the third quarter.
But nothing that we see emerging or are migrating at this point.
That's great David. Thank you and then last question would be I appreciate the update on Cecil implementation at the end of the here are you able to give us what your estimate of the day, one impact would be and then what if anything to change given.
The macro backdrop that would result in a higher number than that 30 to 35 million all in so let me give you some detail in terms of how we set up for a C zone in terms of some of that underlying.
AOS as Jim shared with you that 85 to one of five to 30 to 35 million.
Obviously, the economy's spend very mixed but we do continue to see strengthen our clients, who overall and navigating in this environment pretty well.
We've not seen delinquencies defaults losses emerge as we've talked about and as you know Cecil can be very pro cyclical it's very volatile in the short term and so the drivers of seasonal as you know are very forward a focus in terms of the consensus and don't really take into account the full.
Aspects of the portfolio quality. So as we look forward you know unemployment in GDP, a potential future stimulus, but the path of the virus and other factors creates some uncertainty quarter to quarter to we're looking past that were sort of blocking out the noise Oh, that's that's coming to us quarter to quarter and we're really feel.
Focused on how does 2021 set up at the beginning of year as we look at the set up for 2021, we're thinking about unemployment somewhere between 8% to 10% and we're thinking about GDP GDP growth somewhere between 3% to 5% and those are the assumptions that underlie our you know 30 to 35 million dollar.
Total reserves and so.
That you know if those if those metrics change that obviously could change our outlook.
You know as you as you compare us to other banks I would remind you that our credit portfolio is different we don't have consumer credit, but other banks all have the credit cards, the installment loans the auto loans the home equity loans.
And so you have to adjust for that as you compare our metrics and the numbers were sharing from seasonal prospective work with where other banks are at this point that are our fuel sort of seasonal and where we're headed into 2021.
Thanks for sharing that guys I appreciate it that's it for me.
Thanks.
Yes, Okay, Okay, and then [laughter] I would like to turn the conference Michael that to me, that's where any closing remarks.
Thank you operator, we continue to thank you for your current continued interest and commitment to Tristate capital and look forward to talking to you in next quarter. Thank you very much.
The conference call is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation you may now disconnect.
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