Q2 2021 360 DigiTech Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you for standing by and welcome to the 360 <unk> second quarter 2021 earnings Conference call.
Please also note today's event is being recorded.
At this time I'd like to turn the conference call over to MS. Mandy Dong IR director.
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Thank you Hello, everyone and welcome to our second quarter 2021 earnings conference call I'll read out what you should earn out today and it can be found on our IR website.
Joining me today are Mr. Shang, our CEO and thereafter.
Mr. Alex <unk>, our CFO and director and Mr. Don Yang our Seattle.
Before we begin our prepared remarks I'd like to remind you of our safe Harbor statement, Yeah. All earnings press release, which also applies to these costs. We may refer to forward looking statements based on our current plans estimates and projections also this call include discussions of certain non-GAAP measures. Please refer to our earnings release.
And in Asia between non-GAAP and GAAP was last unless otherwise stated all see demand RMB I will now turn the call over to our CEO Mr. White shelf.
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Hello, everyone I'm very happy to report another quarter of record breaking operational and financial results.
In the quarter financial institutions originated RMB $88.5 billion loans through our path for marking another record high up five zero, 50% Y O Y and the 19% one nine kill them kill after reaching RMB 100 billion milestone in Q1.
Standalone balance continued to grow to RMB $111.6 billion in Q2.
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Total revenue was RMB 4 billion in Q2 'twenty.
20% to zero, while white and 11% kill and kill non-GAAP net income was RMB 162 billion up 17, 1% Y O Y and the 15th one sites kill them killed.
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Despite a continuously changing macro and regulatory environment, we have delivered five consecutive quarters of record breaking results over the past few years, we have built a comprehensive operational system that demonstrates remarkable resilience.
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Diversify that user acquisition channels and seeing that really allow us to effectively hot against any volatility for a particular channel.
Our extensive network of diverse financial institution partners gives us sufficient flexibility in terms of funding cost geography coverage and the pricing.
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Our access to some key financial guidance also give us ecosystem great. Because that's you know, let's say you have to comply with the ever changing regulatory environment.
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Over the last six weeks also kills me along with other Chinese Adi has experienced extreme volatility in the market.
There are multiple risk factors trigger such as share price movement within the markets overreacting to the negative elements and ignoring the solid fundamentals and a strong growth prospect.
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As such after a careful evaluation with the approval of our board management decided to launch a share buyback program.
The company intends to repurchase up to USD 200 million of ABS.
Through open market or other firm up transaction over the course of next 12 months.
With the late at current market condition share repurchase other extremely attractive opportunity to destroy our cash and to generate great returns to our shareholders.
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We continue to make progress in multiple strategy initiatives and are gradually unlock tremendous growth opportunities.
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Our embedded finance models drove so you need to cancel it.
The number of new borrowers in Q2 hit the highest level in the past six quarters after by more than 10% sequentially.
The number of SME borrower acquired offline also increased significantly.
In battery and finance model contributes close to 44 zero percent of our new customers with approved the private lines in Q2.
So far we havent established collaborations with 22, leading tablet platforms with another eight in the pipeline.
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Our SME finance business also achieved a breakthrough performance in Q2 by strengthening our ties with a leading industry partners and the optimizing credit approval process and the policies total amount of new eye probe decline line increased 22% Q on Q to RMB.
Seven 1 billion and outstanding loan balance increased 45% sequentially with Ara tickets exceeding RMB 250000.
Meanwhile, we are rolling out to customers long products catering to the specific funding.
Funding needs of different industries.
In July we launched tobacco business law and have served more than 700 offline tobacco business owners in the second half of this year, we plan to launch other industry specific loan products targeting cross border E Commerce supply chain finance as well as agriculture and forestry sectors.
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Long facilitation under the capital light model accounted for roughly 56% of total volume in Q2 and for the mouth of July capital Light accounted nearly 66 zero percent almost reached our full year Gulf of upgrading strategy.
Flowers smarter marketing program IC intelligence credit engine, the number of active user increased 74% Q on Q.
Action volume and outstanding balance both been tapped by 36%.
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We fully understand the regulator's requirements and expectations for the industry.
Although our business is a relatively focused and has a clear path towards full compliance with regulatory requirements. We don't have online payments online insurance online brokerage operation, which has stepped up to more restrictive regulations.
Our loan facilitation business, we don't do join lending nor have overlapped overleverage ABS issuance.
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Pre emptively communicate it with the regulators to understand the policy direction and to make necessary preparations.
I would take multiple actions to satisfy this new regulation.
On one hand, we can cooperate with existing third party credit agency on the other hand, we can also seek partners to jointly launch a new credit agency.
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Recently, some media reports indicate that the regulator will require consumer finance companies to implement an all in interest rate cut of 24% for consumer lending.
This is consistent with the regulators longtime agenda to support real economy by lowering financing cost for consumers and Smes. Neither is also consistent with our long term business planning our own balance sheet loans and SME loan business already priced below 24%.
While our consumer facilitation business even.
More restrictive stress test in which we assume to cut our price to below 24% that rather rapidly we did not.
Not expect the price cut to have a minimal impact to our operational and financial results in 2021.
For 2022, it will be a transitional year when the entire industry will comply with the 24 rate cap by June.
In our stress test, we continue to see healthy volume growth in 2022, and net take rate should be around 3%.
There are also some positive factor that might mitigate that negative impact from the 24% rate cap.
Lower price, we should be able to develop a partnership with larger national banks that typically offer more stable funding at lower funding costs.
In addition, with all of our assay at 24% or lower we should be able to significantly increase the insurance of ABS, which typically carries.
Much lower finding costs around five to five 5% versus around 7% from banks.
Furthermore, and lower prices, we can attract more high quality Bora, which will naturally drive down overall credit cost by 1% to 2% point on IRR basis.
Finally, based on our experienced lower pricing normally boost up our activities retention rate and lifetime value or LTV.
To conclude we believe more prime customer and a better quality of financial institution would come along with lower priced products.
This will ultimately enhance our operational efficiency and will make our business more resilient and sustainable.
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I've already fixed the issue and our App has been restored to all major app store up to today.
We have conducted a thorough internal reveal and they improved our operating protocols to ensure SEC is against never happen again.
Thanks to our diversified customer acquisition channel and the balance of product mix the impact at remove out to our operation has been minimal.
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During the quarter, we continued to diversify our funding sources, we accelerated the pace of ABS issuance with a total of RMB two 1 billion ABS in Q2 at an average coupon rate of five 3%.
It has brought our total lab ABS issuance to RMB three 1 billion so far this year.
Number four in the market.
Our risk management system to support more business lines, we continue to see further enhance of our asset quality.
The 90 day, plus delinquency ratio across our platform with a 119%.
And one platform rate remains stable at 98% and day, one delinquency rate at 5%.
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We continue to expand the scale of our collaboration with KCB total accumulated loan facilitation volume as of Q2 was RMB 33, 5 billion outstanding balance was RMB 24 billion at end of Q2.66 zero.
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At least that the scale of the KCB partnership through man relatively stable for the time being.
We have brought a trust and a great flexibility in our collaboration with KCB.
Going forward, we will proactively explore new products and business opportunities through our cooperation with KCB.
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We made some good progress on the yes brief brown, which go up more and more attention.
When Dallas flagship Kona in Province. This July we took swift action to support by donating RMB 20 million through the <unk> Foundation.
Meanwhile, we organize the local team to join our rescue efforts.
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This fruitful result comes along from dedicated efforts of our excellent team.
I would like to express my gratitude to their hard work.
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We have successfully demonstrated our capabilities and ambition over the past five years.
Fintech is a vast market with huge potential and our fintech product has profoundly changed financial service landscape and the user experience.
We will continuously launch innovative products and dedicate it to become the premium player in this market.
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Now, let me turn to our CFO, Alex Toronto more detailed info. Thank you.
Thank you Hi, Joe Good morning, and good evening, everyone welcome to our quarterly earnings call.
The interest of time I will not go over all the financial line items on the call. Please refer to our earnings release for the details.
And as Joe mentioned, we delivered robust operating and financial results for the first half of 2021 powered by strong consumer demand for credit and further improvement in asset quality.
The strong business momentum appears continuing into current quarter.
In fact, we have seen record breaking volumes in recent months. Despite some reported softness of micro economic activities lately.
Total net revenue for Q2 was 4 billion versus $3.6 billion in Q1.
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Revenue from credit driven service capital heavy was $2.4 billion.
Prior to 2.45 billion in Q1, and 3.0, hey, bidding a year ago.
Year over year decline was mainly due to facilitation volume mix change as capital heavy contribution decreased significantly.
Revenue from <unk> capital Light was $1.6 billion compared to 1.15 billion in Q1, and 259 million a year ago. The robust growth was mainly driven by.
Exceptional progress we have made in capital light and other technology solutions during the quarter capital light and other technology solution contributed roughly 56% of a total loan volume.
The underlying take rates relatively stable.
We expect capitalized contribution percentage to continue increase in the second half and to reach roughly two third of our total volume by the year end.
During the quarter average pricing was 27, 2% compared to 26, 6% in Q1, and 27, 2% a year ago.
Assuming the reported 24% rate cap guideline will be implemented across the industry.
We are expecting overall pricing to gradually trending down through mid 2022 to satisfy the rate cap requirement in our stress test.
Even under the more restrictive and steep rate cut scenario.
Where are we assume we cut the rate to below 24% starting from September the first.
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In such a scenario, we should still be able to maintain healthy growth and profitability in the transitional year of 2022 and resume to a more robust gross afterwards.
S. Microeconomic activity has picked up in China in the first half.
Men for Internet traffic also increased significantly along the way.
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Also proactively accelerated the pace of customer acquisition in recent in the last couple of quarters to take advantage of the overall positive business trip.
Such we have experienced some uptick in sales and marketing expenses.
Average customer acquisition cost on the consumer lending side for.
For the quarter was about RMB 237, compared to RMB two six in Q1.
As we discussed in the past average cost per approved credit line is a calculated number with limited value in our decision making.
We will continue to use lifecycle, ROI and LTV as key metrics to determine the pace and scope of our customer acquisition strategy.
So far in 2021 healthy ROI trends have encouraged us to take a more proactive approach to accelerate the growth of our customer base.
Non-GAAP net income was $1 six 1 billion in Q2 versus $1.41 billion in Q1, and 942 million a year ago.
We once again set a new record in quarterly profitability, driven by higher facilitation volume and.
And noticeable improvement in asset quality.
The effective tax rate was approximately 18% for the quarter.
And sorry for the first half of 2021.
We see a similar level the ETR for the rest of the year longer term, we are expecting a normalized ETR to return to approximately 15%.
As we move towards a more technology driven business model, we continue to see marked improvement in operating margins.
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Overall, we expect profitability growth to be more or less keep pace with the facilitation volume grows throughout this year.
With strong operating results and increased contribution from top line model in Q2, our leverage ratio, which is defined as risk bearing loan balance divided by shareholders equity further declined to four 8% sorry, $4 eight times from five four.
In Q1, and eight three times a year ago.
We expect to see continued deleveraging in our business driven by further movement towards capital light and solid operating results.
Total cash and cash equivalent.
<unk> eight 8 billion in Q2 compared to $9.2 billion in Q1 non restricted cash was approximately $5.2 billion in Q2 versus 6 billion in Q1.
The modest decline in cash was mainly due to more proactive deployment of cash in our operations to support ABS and the pre ABS assets, which generates higher returns.
Meanwhile, a significant portion of our cash also allocate it was also allocated to security deposit with our institutional partners and register a capital loss of different entities to support our daily operation.
As we continue to generate strong cash flow through operations. We believe our current cash position is more than sufficient to support the expansion of our business to invest in key technologies and to satisfy potential regulatory requirements. Therefore, we believe it is a prudent decision to use.
Some of our quote unquote free cash to invest in our own stock.
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For a company that is still generating healthy growth for the next few years, we believe it is a great bargain.
Finally, let me give you some update about our outlook for 2021.
The operating results for the first half of 2021 were very encouraging and the momentum doesn't slow so far in current quarter, although we intend to keep our tradition of a conservative approach in providing forward guidance the numbers start to speak for themselves as such we would like to raise our 2020.
Total loan volume guidance to be between RMB 340 billion and RMB 350 billion compared to previous guidance of RMB 310 billion and and the 330 billion.
The revised guidance represents year over year growth of 38% to 42%.
As always this forecast reflects the company's current and preliminary view, which is subject to material changes.
With that I would like to conclude our prepared remarks, operator, we can now take some questions.
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Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question to the management.
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For those who can speak Chinese please come to the ask a question in Chinese first followed by English translation.
Our first question is from Richard at Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
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As Jim has mentioned that actually there are two or three solutions. The weekend about the first one is that we apply for quite a lesson to launch a new credit agency and the second one as we cooperate with existing quite a agency to continue our business also with our <unk>.
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Whatever solution, we adopt and began the process of product might be different. However, it will not affect our result of the risk management and our risk models.
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So for your second question regarding to our growth rate actually we have seen that the growth is not the problem and the regulators focus more on a standardized standardization of the product and of our business.
So we have seen that in the requirements by the regulators.
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Standard for data capture so apart from capturing data from castle my side like forecast and of course, our application. We are working proactively with third party credit agency for ESG and external data sources as well as replacement.
And the second principle is that the customer authorization eight mandatary before data capture as you may know that our removal of our 360 THL applications from App stores. It was caused by these problems.
We will emphasize more on this principle in the future we believe that with our relatively standard personal loss and the impact of this tightening presupposed will have minimal impact on our business.
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A stress test for next year regarding the margin.
It will go down to 3% so just want to understand.
I understand what is our assumptions behind this stress test regarding too.
Funding costs and credit costs in the other.
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Outlook for APR in the third quarter.
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We've seen other competitors also move to this new business.
So how.
How are we going to differentiate our SME loan product and what is the APR of margin and our growth target this year.
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SME loan include that in our new.
Guidance. Thank you.
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Thank you Jackie regarding to your first question about the stress test actually what we have delivered now is relatively static test with all other factors status quo, especially there's no improvement in our efficiency. So we estimate there is no cost of changes.
In this version of the stress test.
As we have known that there is a steady improvement of our cost.
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Nobody lost an expectation to be lower by around 1% as well. So another major cost of customer acquisition costs will be lower as well. So we expect that actually the take rate of 3% will be improved in the feature.
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The only place platform in China, Mark cases that are able to have in depth cooperation with banks. We believe we have an advantage of data and the funding cost regarding to that any business.
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Just I have a few a sort of a clarification and then add up to Mr. Louis comments, there number one the most important clarification that 3% is not a margin. It's the take rate our net margin. This quarter was 40% and if anything for the next couple of quarters.
So, we'll probably see a little bit expansion of net margin.
Then this Q2, so the 3% though is the take rate.
Loan balance that we have been saying this in the past and then secondly.
And also regarding the second half pricing trend.
Even though we our stress test was taken the more drastic cuts starting from September 1st basically on that day I wish it goes below 24, but in reality, that's not going to be the case, just like <unk> mentioned it should.
Really dependent on the pace of our financial institution partners.
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Progress there so most likely it will be a gradual trending down towards that kind of a go.
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June next year.
So if you do a linear kind of distribution.
On any given quarter from now to mid of next year, you're probably looking at maybe a one percentage or a little bit over one percentage point change in pricing. If you just average out.
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Regarding the pricing change.
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Net impact on the pricing alone will probably be somewhere around a 1.718% maybe okay. So that's a pricing at all and then you know.
Again about the funding cost savings operational efficiencies and all these kind of things.
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The savings from after tax savings from that sort of a credit cost side will.
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That's very clear thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you so much that's the end of the Q&A session I would like to hand, it back to management for bracing for closing remarks.
Okay. Thank you everyone again to join our conference call and if you have any additional questions. Please feel free to contact us. Thank you.
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Thank you for standing by and welcome to the <unk> 360, <unk> second quarter 2021 earnings Conference call.
Please also note today's event is being recorded.
At this time I'd like to turn the conference call over to MS. Mandy Dong IR director.
Go ahead Mindy.
Thank you Hello, everyone and welcome to our second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Our is now to what you said earlier today and can be found on our IR website joining.
Joining me today are Mr. Zhang our CEO and director, Mr. Alex <unk>, our CFO and director and Mr. Don Yang our Seattle.
Before we begin our prepared remarks I'd like to remind you of our safe Harbor statement in our earnings press release, which also applies to this call. We may refer to forward looking statements based on our current plans estimates and projections also and this call include discussions of certain non-GAAP measures. Please refer to our earnings release.
Delineation between non-GAAP and the GAAP one last.
Unless otherwise stated all Segun mentioned RMB I will now turn the call over to our CEO Mr. Watchful.
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Despite a continuously changing macro and regulatory environment, we have delivered five consecutive quarters of record breaking results over the past few years, we have built a comprehensive operational system that demonstrates remarkable resilience through cycles.
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Recently, some media reports indicate that regulator will require consumer finance companies to implement an all in interest rate cut of 24% for consumer lending. This is consistent with the regulators longtime agenda to support real economy by lowering financing costs.
Consumers and Smes need is also consistent with our long term business planning.
Our own balance sheet loans, and SME loan business already priced below 24%, while our consumer facilitation business even.
More restrictive stress tests in which we asked them to cut our price to below 24% that rather rapidly we did not.
Not expect the price cut to have a minimal impact to our operational and financial results in 2021.
As for 2022, it will be a transitional year when the entire industry will comply with the 24 rate cap by drilling in.
In our stress test, we continue to see healthy volume growth in 2022, and net take rate should be around 3%.
There are also some positive factor that may mitigate the negative impact from the 24% rate cap.
Lower price, we should be able to develop a partnership with larger national banks that typically offer more stable funding at lower funding costs.
In addition, with all of our assay at 24% or lower we should be able to significantly increase the insurance of ABS, which typically carries a much lower finding costs around five to five 5% versus around 7% from banks.
Furthermore, and lower prices, we can attract more high quality bar at which we are naturally dragged down overall credit costs by 1% to 2% 0.0 IRR basis.
Finally, based on our experienced lower pricing normally pushed up our activities retention rate and lifetime value or LTV.
To conclude we believe more prime customer and a better quality of financial institution would come along with lower priced products.
This will ultimately enhance our operational efficiency and make our business more resilient and sustainable.
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I would now like to address the temporary removal of our 360 THL app from the App store. The removal was due to our product engineer missed out one of the function that was required by the regulators.
We have already fixed the issue and our App has been restored to all major app store up to today.
We have conducted a thorough internal reveal and they improved our operating protocols to ensure SEC incident never happen again.
Thanks to our diversified customer acquisition channel and the balance of product mix the impact.
Remove out to our operation has been minimal.
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During the quarter, we continued to diversify our funding sources.
Accelerating the pace of ABS issuance with a total of RMB two 1 billion ABS in Q2 at an average coupon rate of five 3%. This has brought our total lab ABS insurance to RMB three 1 billion. So far this year.
Ranking at number four in the market.
Our risk management system to support more business lines, we continue to see further enhance of our asset quality.
The 90 day, plus delinquency ratio across our platform with a 119%.
And one platform rate remains stable at 98% and day, one delinquency rate at 5%.
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We continue to expand the scale of our collaboration with KCB total accumulated loan facilitation volume as of Q2 was RMB 33, 5 billion outstanding balance was RMB 24 billion at end of Q2.
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At least that the scale of the KCB partnership through man relatively stable for the time being.
We have brought a trust and a great flexibility in our collaboration with KCB.
Going forward, we will proactively explore new products and business opportunities through our collaborations with KCB.
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Oh boy, well quite satisfy them with our performance in the first half of 2021.
As fruitful result comes along from dedicated efforts of our excellent team I would like to express my gratitude to their hard work.
Well your time of rapid change and a great companies are always bumps in great change.
We have successfully demonstrated our capabilities and ambition over the past five years.
Fintech is a vast market with huge potential and our fintech product has profoundly changed financial service landscape and the user experience.
We are continuously launch innovative products and are dedicated to become the premium player in this market.
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Now, let me turn to our CFO, Alex Toronto more detailed info. Thank you.
Thank you Hi, Joe Good morning, and good evening, everyone welcome to our quarterly earnings call.
For the interest of time I will not go over all the financial line items on the call. Please refer to our earnings release for the details.
And as Joe mentioned, we delivered robust operating and financial results for the first half of 2021.
Powered by strong consumer demand for credit and further improvement in asset quality.
The strong business momentum appears continuing into current quarter.
In fact, we have seen record breaking volumes in recent months, despite some reported softness soft microeconomic activities lately.
Total net revenue for Q2 was 4 billion versus $3.6 billion in Q1.
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Revenue from credit driven service capital heavy.
Two 4 billion compared to 2.45 billion in Q1, and a three point O a bit in a year ago. The year over year decline was mainly due to facilitation volume mix change.
Capital heavy contribution decreased significantly.
Revenue from <unk> capital Light was $1.6 billion.
Two 1.15 billion in Q1, and 259 million a year ago.
The robust growth was mainly driven by.
Exceptional progress we have made in capital light and other technology solutions during the quarter capital light and other technology solutions contributed roughly 56% of the total loan volume well the underlying take rates relatively stable.
We expect satellite contribution percentage to continue increase in the second half.
To reach roughly two third of our total volume by the year end.
During the quarter average pricing was 27, 2% compared to 26, 6% in Q1, and 27, 2% a year ago.
Assuming the reported 24% rate cap guideline will be implemented across the industry. We are expecting overall pricing to gradually trending down through mid 2022 to satisfy the rate cap requirement in our stress test.
Even under the more restrictive and steep rate cut scenario.
Where are we assume we cut the rate to below 24% starting from September the first.
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In such a scenario, we should still be able to maintain healthy growth and profitability in the transitional year of 2022 and resume to a more robust gross afterwards.
S. Microeconomic activity has picked up in China in the first half demand for Internet traffic also increased significantly along the way.
In addition, we also proactively accelerating the pace of customer acquisition in recent in the last couple of quarters to take advantage of the overall positive business trip.
Such we have experienced some uptick in sales and marketing expenses.
Average customer acquisition cost on the consumer lending side.
For the quarter was about RMB 237, compared to RMB two O six in Q1.
As we discussed in the past average cost per approved credit line is a calculated number with limited value in our decision making.
We will continue to use lifecycle, ROI and LTV as key metrics to.
To determine the pace and scope of our customer acquisition strategy.
So far in 2021 healthy ROI trends have encouraged us to take a more proactive approach to accelerate the growth of our customer base.
Non-GAAP net income was $1 six 1 billion in Q2 versus $1 four 1 billion in Q1, and 942 million a year ago.
We once again set a new record in quarterly profitability driven by higher facilitation volume.
And noticeable improvement in asset quality.
The effective tax rate was approximately 18% for the quarter.
And sorry for the first half of 2021.
We see a similar level the ETR for the rest of the year longer term, we are expecting a normalized ETR to return to approximately 15%.
As we move towards a more technology driven business model.
We continue to see marked improvement in operating margins as increasing contribution from capital light and other technology solution will generally lead to a higher margin structure overall, we expect profitability growth to be more or less keep pace with the facilitation volume.
Grows throughout this year.
With strong operating results and increased contribution from top line model in Q2, our leverage ratio, which is defined as risk bearing loan balance divided by shareholders equity further declined to four 8% sorry, $4 eight times from five four times.
In Q1, and $8 three times a year ago.
We expect to see continued deleveraging in our business driven by further movement towards capital light and solid operating results.
Total cash and cash equivalent was $8.8 billion in Q2 compared to $9.2 billion in Q1 non restricted cash was approximately $5.2 billion in Q2 versus 6 billion in Q1.
The modest decline in cash was mainly due to more proactive deployment of cash.
Our operations to support ABS, and the pre ABS assets, which generates higher returns.
Meanwhile, a significant portion of our cash.
So allocate it was also allocated to secure the deposit with our institutional partners and register your captors of different entities to support our daily operation.
As we continue to generate strong cash flow through operations. We believe our current cash position is more than sufficient to support the expansion of our business to invest in key technologies and to satisfy potential regulatory requirements. Therefore, we believe it is a prudent decision to you.
Some of our quote unquote free cash to invest in our own stock, which is priced just around the companys liquidation value.
For a company that is still generating healthy growth for the next few years, we believe it is a great bargain.
Finally, let me give you some update about our outlook for 2021.
The operating results for the first half of 2021 were very encouraging and the momentum doesn't slow so far in current quarter, although we intend to keep our tradition of a conservative approach in providing forward guidance the numbers start to speak for themselves.
As such we would like to raise our 2021 total loan volume guidance to be between RMB 340 billion and RMB 350 billion compared to previous guidance of RMB 310 billion and <unk> 330 billion.
The revised guidance represents year over year growth of 38% to 42%.
As always this forecast reflects the companys current and preliminary view, which is subject to material changes.
With that I would like to conclude our prepared remarks, operator, we can now take some questions.
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Our first question is from Richard at Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
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Oh, Okay. So for the draft version of the regulation of the administration of quality assessments business was announced and we have been communicating with regulators for a long time, but actually in the market that there is no standard solution available so far for now.
And also as Mr. Chen has mentioned that actually there are two or three.
Solutions the weekend about the first one is that we apply for quite a lesson to launch a new credit agency and the second one as we cooperate with existing credit agency to continue our business.
So with our in depth cooperation with KCB, which offers.
Another item to you before the solution.
Whatever solution, we adopt in the end the process of product might be different however, it will not affect our result of the risk management and our risk models.
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So for your second question regarding to our growth rate actually we have seen that the growth is not the problem and the regulators focus more on a standardized standardization of the product and of our business also we have seen.
In the requirements by the regulators.
We have issued that we they want the platform's Ethernet platforms to sustain the growth and supports real economy continuously.
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We will emphasize more on this principle in the future we believe that with our relatively standard personal loss and the impact of this type of an increase proposed will have minimal impact on our business.
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Thank you Jackie regarding to your first question about the stress test actually what we have delivered now is relatively static test with all other factors status quo, especially there is no improvement in our efficiency. So we estimate there is no cost of changes in this.
Version of the stress test however, as we have known that it does it does the improvement of our cost.
Example, addlestone constant before we have a large portion of our funding from our consumer finance company with a relatively higher.
Funding cost.
And our ABS Ballroom is also limited however, with lowering cap interest rate, we can have more something from national banks or larger national banks, and we can increase our ABS volume. So we except expect our funding costs to be lowered by 1% and we.
So quite a lot of expectation to be lowered by around 1% as well. So another major cost of customer acquisition costs will be lower as well. So we expect that actually to take rate of 3% will be improved in the feature.
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So for your second question regarding to our competitiveness.
So there are two aspects. The first one is about risk management.
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Because we focus more on the MSC side.
Certainly the traditional SME loans over 10 million in ticket size is not fully data driven however, we have adopted a new engine regarding to our risk management about SME loans.
We evaluate from the individual side and from the corporate side with Teekay size of 250000 on average we have leased and food each licensed our accumulated experience of risk management in the past years and consumer phone lines.
And the second advantage of Us and the corporation with KCB.
The only thing platforms in China, Mark cases that are able to have in depth cooperation with banks.
We believe we have an advantage of data and the funding cost regarding to that any business.
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So for our target of SME loans. This year it will account for around 10% to 15% of our total loan origination and it has been covered in our guidance.
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Just I have a few a sort of a clarification and then add up to a Mr. Louis comments there number one the most important clarification that 3% is not margin. It's the take rate right. Our net margin this quarter was 40% and if anything for the.
Next couple of quarters, we'll probably see a little bit expansion of margin.
Then this Q2, so the 3% though is the take rate on.
Loan balance that we have been saying this in the past and then secondly.
And also regarding the second half pricing trend.
Even though we our stress test was taken the more drastic cuts starting from September 1st basically on that day I wish it goes below 24, but in reality, that's not going to be the case, just like Ashok mentioned, it's really dependent on the pace of our financial institution partners.
Are there kind of a.
Progress there so most likely it will be a gradual trending down towards that kind of a goal.
By the end of.
June next year.
So if you do a dania kind of a distribution arm.
Any given quarter from now to mid of next year, you're probably looking at maybe a one percentage or a little bit over one percentage point change in pricing. If you just average out so that's the.
Regarding the pricing change.
And then this kind of a change for 2020.
2021 for the remainder of 2021.
We don't see any kind of a meaningful impact in both low volume.
Or the.
The take rate that's why in my prepared remarks, I mentioned that.
The second half profitability will most likely keeping pace with the loan volume growth.
You have our guidance for the full year, you can do the calculation roughly.
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The calculation the sorry, the profitability the number for the second half okay. So that's.
Another clarification.
Then the third point is really about how do we get that's 4% I'm sorry, it's 3% take rate when this whole thing that set and done.
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Actually the top line and kept heavy basically you'll have a similar 2% impact just by the pricing alone. That's a pretax impact if you add the tax rate on it the net impact on the pricing alone will probably be somewhere around a 1.718% maybe.
Okay. So that's a pricing law and then.
Again about the funding cost savings operational efficiencies and all these kind of things. The one clear change will be the risk factor just simply because when the pricing coming down you are naturally targeting a high quality group of users.
Okay for that.
Our estimate.
The savings from after tax savings from that sort of a credit cost side will.
We will be coming somewhere around 6% to 8% range. So if you deduct the pricing impact one seven a deduct eight sorry, <unk> 68 from the one seven to one eight you've got roughly 1% that's not even considering anything on the funding cost.
Cost on the operational efficiency and all the other things we actually mentioned earlier. So that's the very rough calculation just for your reference.
That's very clear thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you so much that's the end of the Q&A session I would like to hand, it back to management for bracing for closing remarks.
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