Q3 2021 Tecnoglass Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you for joining us for techno glass in the third quarter 2021 conference call a copy of the slide presentation to accompany this call may be obtained on the investors section of the techno West's website.
Our speakers for today's call are Chief Executive Officer, Jose Manuel bias.
<unk> operating officer, Chris bias.
And Chief Financial Officer, Santiago Giraldo.
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I will now turn the call over to Jose Manuel beginning on slide number four.
Thank you Brett and thank you everyone for participating on today's call.
I could not be more proud of all that.
Third quarter performance.
Look at our fourth consecutive quarter, where year over year revenue rose.
Our record results.
Maybe one or two metrics.
We achieved another quarter with record revenue with good developers showed growth in the U S.
Which represented nearly 95% the total literatures.
They showed slow growth was led by our <unk>.
Good family residential sales.
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I love jewelry reflect a strong demand for both pre close blogs or grows or deeper presence in the southeast U S.
We also strengthened our commercial poodle.
Plugged cause bulk goods throughout the country with a growing global commercial projects three boys.
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Maybe you know in pleasure showed performance, we were able to grow adjusted EBITDA by segment.
To a new record of 39 million for the third quarter.
Our goal is to reduce the burden and also gave me the local level.
Blue Bird.
20 basis points.
Year over year to 29 point something percent.
There's a whole bunch more geeky English children, so as I mentioned previously.
Disciplined cost controls.
If you just previously implemented.
I recall it investments.
Our gross margin, you'll see that 6%.
Which is also a record for the third quarter.
Furthermore continued momentum.
So probably we will see visual business.
It doesn't show just cause cycle.
Combined with Covey.
Capital management collectively helped to generate those families are straight quarter with robust cash flow.
A quarterly record of nearly 33 billion.
Okay.
Your line is to pay down debt, while investing further in automobiles, you'll get but really do it.
It doesn't have to do to address the expected growth.
As a result, although very vertically integrated a plug for that.
Strategic geographic position, we continue to enjoy a healthy competitive advantage.
It was mostly insulated pick the love those slow for widespread supply chain disruptions.
Most people cost pressures affecting our industry.
Or just talk to a month or two.
So there's real shared gains.
As do I think she was there goes towards value or shorter lead times, continuing field turbo got very liberally.
Our best in class quality.
Most of our success so far this year.
We see we are pleased to have crews or full year revenue.
Adjusted EBITDA growth.
Joe will discuss later in the call.
In conclusion.
We expect to continue executor.
Oh Holy purpose of all goes as planned with U S. Generally.
Cash flow to deliver real value for our shareholders.
We've been first of all our balance sheet.
Fluke should really be.
We are extremely close with it are really do to achieve.
Our growth objectives.
By building our industry, leading buggies.
We have a highly efficient vertically integrated.
Low cost operation, we have an extensive portfolio of window would be.
Top of the line draw was going through the loans to continue waiving at all about it.
I will now turn the call over to Chris to provide additional details on our record backlog.
Thank you Jose Manuel.
Yes.
It reflects our ability to execute our growth strategy as a U S centric company, while providing exceptional service to our customers. We were thrilled to build on top of her first half 2021 moment.
Third quarter, we gained share delivering new products offering and expand our dealer network.
During the quarter, we were pleased to begin in Boise and products under our new multi Max product line, which targets production homebuilders.
Well as legacy and new dealers.
This is an important to review that we believe represent significant upside to our long term growth potential.
Beyond new products, we are seeing sharp acceleration of growth in our prestige and elite single family residential product lines.
We continue to expect strong growth.
Single family with respect of shared gain helped by continued positive overall housing environment in the U S.
In addition, we have a number of commitments on commercial and multi family projects, which helped to grow our backlog to a new record level of 500.
75.8 million at quarter end as it relates to commercial indicators, we have been pleased to see increases in the Abi index, which moved farther into expansion territory for the eighth consecutive months through September.
Timber Abi index increased to 56.6 compared to 55.6, he knows remain in expansion territory.
To levels not seen since the early 2019.
Yeah.
At 575.8 million, our third quarter backlog level represents more than 1.2 times, our trailing 12 month revenue, providing us with solid visibility on commercial demand from 'twenty to 'twenty two.
U S continues to represent an increasing share of projects accounting for over 86% of all third quarter backlog.
Approximately two thirds of our backlog is comprised of medium and high rise residential projects as well as single family residential already in production. While one third is related to a wide array of commercial projects.
As a reminder, our single family residential growth trajectory is not fully captured in our body. This is due to the short term spot duration of those projects.
Looking ahead, our strong cash flow generation capability at horizon from our vertically integrated advantages have allow us to invest significantly in growth capex.
During the third quarter, we spent 10 million in growth Capex to automate a third glass processing line enhance our self coating facility.
Expanding our aluminum production capacity to address incremental demand.
We believe growth investments such as these will help us address the expect the growth we foresee through 2022.
With the previously discussed installed capacity and incremental efficiencies anticipated to become operational by the fourth quarter of 'twenty or 'twenty, one or early in the first quarter of 2022, we expect to have the necessary installed capacity to significantly expand our invoicing capabilities whether it be.
Beyond current levels.
I would now turn the call over to Santiago on the slide six to discuss the strong demand for our single family products vertical integration strategy and financial results and our improved outlook for the year.
Thank you Christian.
Our third quarter results represent yet another quarter of consistent execution following years of investments in technology enhancements at our facilities as well as our strategic positioning in the U S single family residential market.
In the third quarter, we were thrilled to expand upon our exceptional first half 2021 performance.
We saw our momentum continue primarily through share gains and new business wins in our single family business.
This momentum resulted in our total revenue increasing to new record levels, notably.
Our single family revenues increased 213% year over year.
Representing 48% of our third quarter U S revenues and 35% of our U S sales on an LTM basis.
Reflecting new business wins and market share gains.
Our sales continued to benefit from our vertically integrated business model and strategically located operations.
Yeah celebrating demand for our products is attributable to our ability to supply superior quality products with shorter lead times at an attractive value.
As Chris mentioned, while our single family sales in the third quarter were primarily comprised of our speech and elite product lines.
We're thrilled to begin invoicing orders for a multi Max product line.
Getting production homebuilders.
Regardless of our future volatility in the housing market or forward looking indicators such as housing starts. We expect these product lines to offer a pure upside to our already strong residential sales as we continue to focus on expanding our single family presence.
Hmm dealership expansion and geographic diversification.
Looking at slide seven.
We would like to draw your attention to the factors driving our success and above market growth in 2020 one.
Helping us to differentiate technical glass.
Architectural glass provider of choice in the U S.
As we have discussed in previous quarters, our strategically located very integrated and low cost operations.
Provide us with sustainable competitive advantages compared to our peers.
Our structural advantages and significant investments in our operations continue to facilitate our ability to quote more projects expand customer relationships and deliver products with much shorter lead times and the current industry average.
Our vertically integration and joint venture with single Bond allows us significant control over our purchasing and transportation costs with no material pressures from raw material cost or material availability.
Also.
We have not experienced any significant wage cost increases or labor constraints.
Additionally.
Energy costs continue to be stable, given our ability to source energy from our solar panel generation natural gas cogeneration.
Collectively these paas.
Hence our ability to deliver attractively priced products in a timely manner.
In turn unlock.
Opportunities to build new relationships and trench ourself with existing customers and drive market share gains.
On slide number eight.
We displayed the areas, where we believe we have already made significant achievements across the ESG spectrum.
We were pleased to further highlight our commitment to environmental social and governance responsibilities through our 2020 sustainability report published a few weeks ago.
Throughout our years as a public company, we have worked to serve all of our stakeholders, probably implementing green technology, such as our $15 million investment in solar technology for our facilities to our efforts to develop picking up glass that's in it.
A lawyer of choice in Colombia.
By way of our investments in our employee and corporate culture.
On slide nine we have provided a high level view of the goals, we will seek to achieve on a go forward basis as outlined in our report.
We have the sign and continuously implement strategies aimed to encourage the efficient use of materials and resources as well as the development of environmentally friendly technologies.
We also look to responsibly manage the value chain and the lifecycle of the products we sell.
And we do all of this we offer our partners in Nevada.
And best in class products that are environmentally friendly and energy efficient.
Technical glass remains dedicated to corporate social responsibility.
'twenty 'twenty reports marks another important milestone in our yes G journey.
Let's now these costs, our third quarter financials, starting with revenue drivers on slide number 11.
Total revenues increased 26% year over year to a record 134 million for the third quarter.
In the U S, which represents 94% of our total revenues we saw growth of approximately 29%.
A record $123 2 million.
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This strength was primarily driven by strong growth in our single family housing activity and market share gains that I discussed previously.
These more than offset the air pocket in commercial activity as projects in our backlog the hybrids to progress through the later stage of construction when architectural glass is typically installed.
Based on conversations with customers we believe.
Commercial is on track to recover as we've moved early into 2022.
Looking at the drivers of adjusted EBITDA on Slide number 12.
Adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter of 2021 increased 36, 1% to a record $38 7 million.
Impaired to $28 5 million in the prior.
Year over year quarter.
Adjusted EBITDA margin was 29, 7%.
A third quarter record and a strong 220 basis points improvement compared to the prior year period.
We were pleased to produce record third quarter gross profit on both a dollar and margin basis.
Our gross profit increased 28, 7% to 51.6 million.
Representing a gross margin of 39, 6%.
These compared to gross profit of $40 1 million in the prior year quarter.
Representing a gross margin of 38, 8%.
Our 80 basis point improvement in margin was mainly attributable to greater operating efficiencies.
A higher mix of revenue from manufacturing versus installation activity.
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We did not carry out installation.
Higher nominal operating expenses for the quarter mainly reflected.
Your variable expenses related to marine and ground transportation and common shares.
As a percentage of revenue.
<unk> expenses were lower by 280 basis points compared to the prior year period.
Due to higher revenues and better operating leverage on personnel.
Special fees and other fixed expenses.
Now looking at our balance sheet and leverage profile on slide number 13.
To reiterate a point made in previous quarters, the recapitalization of our debt structure last October and our outstanding track record of cash flow generation has significantly enhanced our financial flexibility.
In the third quarter, we were proud to record operating cash flow of 33 million at an 84% conversion from adjusted EBITDA over the past 12 months, we have generated operating cash flow of 114 million.
Representing 85% of adjusted EBITDA.
Our higher margin shorter cash cycle single family revenues combined with exceptional working capital management and lower interest expense are all helping to drive additional shareholder value.
The transformation in our ability to generate significant cash.
Left us well positioned to deploy capital port domestically during the quarter.
Did that in we spent 10 million in growth capex in the quarter in order to address expected demand.
These moves are.
Aligns with our strategy to invest in further operational efficiencies and allows us to prepare for the additional growth we expect in the quarters ahead.
We expect these investments to be operational late in the fourth quarter of 2021 or early first quarter of 2022.
In addition to investments in our operations, we use excess capital to voluntarily prepay 30 million of debt under our syndicated term loan facility during the quarter.
We were pleased to achieve our lowest leverage ratio in the company's history.
Which decreased to 0.9 times net debt to adjusted EBITDA at quarter end.
Furthermore, our joint venture with single bond to construct our previously announced second state of the art slowed glass planting but on Keytruda.
Mains on track to break ground in the first half of 2022.
As we discussed in the past our capital contributions toward that project have already been completed.
We don't expect any additional topics as it relates to the project.
Moving to our outlook on slide number 15.
Based on our strong third quarter performance and continued momentum in 2021.
Our solid demand outlook through year end, we are increasing our full year 2021 outlook.
We now expect full year 2021 revenues of 485 to 495 million.
Representing growth of 31% at the midpoint.
We continue to expect the U S to represent the significant majority of our growth.
Based on these sales outlook and anticipated mix of revenues, we're raising our full year adjusted EBITDA outlook to a range of 140 to 145 million, representing 46% growth at the midpoint of the range as well as margin expansion.
Our gross margins should continue to benefit from our high return capex investments in automation initiatives as well as our proven ability to efficiently manage your costs.
As a reminder, we did not carry out installation for a single family residential sales. However, we do carry out installation for many of the commercial projects in our backlog.
Based on our strong year to date mix of single family revenues.
Faster growth in that end market, we still anticipate a larger mix of higher margin product versus installation revenue or full year 2021 compared to the prior year.
That said.
Given the anticipated sequential increase in that makes up our commercial revenues that include installation, we expect margins to normalize to a high 30% level in the fourth quarter of 2021.
We expect Capex in 2021 to be approximately 35 million with a large portion of these expenses going towards further automation and growth investments to efficiently manage increasing demand for our products maintained.
Maintenance Capex continues to represent less than 2% of our sales.
In summary, we are extremely pleased with our exceptional performance to date in 2021 and are happy to see strong returns from our business enhancements initiatives over the past few years.
Our balance sheet is stronger than ever and our very conservative leverage profile position us well to generate ongoing value creation for our shareholders.
Looking ahead.
We will continue to leverage our unique very clean integrated platform to target new customer relationships and further penetrate the U S single family residential market through our innovative products and superior lead times.
We believe these key differentiators along with our prudent growth investments will continue to provide greater returns for our shareholders as we move into 2020 two.
With that.
We will be happy to answer your questions.
Parade or lease up in the line for questions.
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Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Tim <unk> with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, Hey, everybody good morning, nice the nice job.
Good morning.
Maybe just just to start on residential you know obviously, you know clearly a lot of momentum behind that business business line I guess at this point and what's your visibility for residential into next year and I guess, if you just did basically $60 million in sales this quarter.
Do you think that's a proper kind of baseline you know to use moving forward I mean can we effectively annualize that.
Yes, I believe.
That is above or below.
We believe we'd rather keeping cruising or she leaves you alone.
And.
The 60 million per quarter.
And with what we believe is the bottom line for for for that line of business.
Okay, and when you think about the opportunity maybe just even in Florida could you give us some perspective, how big the Florida market is on on residential and kind of where your share is today.
Oh I believe are sure.
Yes.
Perhaps 20%.
I believe there's too much I mean.
The coopervision.
Maybe you could parse those and Oh.
A couple of them are even today largely the north slope.
I believe there's a lower volpe site, but we could do it.
Yeah.
Okay. Okay. That's good and then and then maybe on the margin side just on raw materials I know you've had some favorable hedges on aluminum how do you think of that kind of normalizing and maybe any any impact there on gross margins into next year I guess.
Are you effectively be able to offset that with pricing and I guess same thing with glass.
Yeah, So basically on the glass side through our joint venture we get stable pricing. So on the aluminum front is where you will have to kind of be mindful, there, but where aluminum prices coming down we don't foresee.
Any impact on on margins going forward as we said, we see high thirties for the rest of the year and into 2022, I don't I don't expect that changing.
Okay, Okay, great I'll hop back in queue nice job guys. Thanks.
Thanks.
Our next question comes from the line of Josh Wilson with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.
Yes, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the quarter.
Thanks, Good morning, Josh.
Could you give us a sense of what the multi Max contribution was to single family in the quarter.
Yeah. So basically right now we're doing about $2 million per month on on that so it is ramping up nicely.
Still a lot of the of the contribution was from the legacy products.
Furthermore to the.
We'd be than what I had mentioned in the last call. We don't like to start a do it too much of something.
Because there's a new line for us.
I mean, we like to make a mistake smoke so.
No.
Pretty good grip on the whole the leg works.
The cost to lose loved to hold their leg to rajeev.
And I believe that there could be cruising before next year.
Got it.
And you had some nice growth in the backlog was that pretty uniform throughout the U S or did you see pockets of strength and weakness regionally.
Well or the commercial side.
Oh, well child, or Florida, we saw a slowdown.
Four zero in their house.
We weren't able to close as many jobs. So we wanted to.
Because cities like New York Boston.
Chicago, they lagged behind everything else.
Oh I'll be behind Florida for example, overheard in Texas.
But no in the last month.
After we close the quarter, we have seen.
I mean, a little closes dogs and <unk>.
Everything is pretty well, but we believe.
And this quarter, we're going to have.
The closed loop.
And those areas. So we wish you probably know we are very enthusiastic about it.
Good and last one for me can you give us a sense of what the 2022 capex might look like.
Yeah. So he is he's gonna be a step down obviously, we invested significantly in growth to be able to have the operational capacity to grow for the next couple of years. So my my guess is that will be around kind of 10 to 15 million type Capex next year.
Got it thanks, so much.
Thanks, Josh.
Yes.
Our next question comes from the line of Julio Romero with Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning, Thanks for taking my questions Good morning, William.
Hey, So what are you guys hearing from customers and in Florida in regards to your service proposition in and.
Talk about how your lead times are trending compared to some of your competition in that area.
Our lead times, how big of a study I mean, we we don't have the most constrained on our materials.
And also our capacity we have.
So uh huh.
We're going to have a little bit by little bit program. So we expect that before the upturn.
We have the capacity to keep shipping.
Six to eight weeks, we feel really good I mean, they're really happy.
We do.
Very good service.
In our windows, they don't need that much service that is one of the pitches that we have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay got it and I guess for my follow up Yeah. Your balance sheet is looking very good you're under one times leverage you invested in some growth in and you paid down some debt in the quarter. If you could just talk about you know how you think about your target leverage and maybe your priorities for cash.
Hum.
We've invested heavily in the last couple of years.
When increasing the capacity and on being a more efficient.
Doing the products aren't spinning off our that's why we increased capacity that we're installing today, we're gonna be able to continue to grow.
Double digits.
Okay.
We.
We're going to try to be at least 20% bigger next year.
Better next year.
We'd be investment that we have made we are almost at capacity and obviously, we are generating a good gosh.
So the leverage is.
He is very stable.
Now here's sometime yeah. So what we're down we're below one time Julio I think our target when we started the year was two times. So obviously, we're very comfortable where we're at and have a lot of financial flexibility to undertake that that the growth that we're seeing.
I think for the foreseeable future, we'll continue investing in capex and growth and if we need to repay part of their debt that'll be another way to to use cash but.
You know at this point, we're definitely well below.
Our original target.
Yeah.
Okay, very nice quarter and best of luck in Q4.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Brent Thielman with D. A Davidson. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, Thank you congrats as well great quarter. Thanks, how are you Brian.
Yeah.
Yeah. Thank you and I guess I wanted to ask a little bit about 2022 or see what I can get from you guys.
I assume that you're going to see a higher mix of installation as you convert some of this background, but your residential strength is.
Believable and I guess I'm trying to think about the impact to margins as the residential.
<unk> gotten to a base, that's large enough to offset that mix.
It makes them back you might see next year from installation.
That's that's correct and that's how we're seeing it I think both factors will offset each other so even if we have more installation we think that we can maintain gross margins.
Furthermore, the subject bad weather.
If I did.
We only do installations.
We refrain from doing that.
So we were doing before.
So.
As soon as we're serving a lot, though outside of Florida with Orange Delusion EBIT.
These days to lose your blood flow.
Florida was the Crucell old struggle with orders to leisure.
There's a few minutes you'll pick it up.
And the commercial projects for midsize.
I mean do you believe overly high.
I believe the margins are going to stay the same or even better perhaps.
Yes.
Okay, Yeah, and I guess I wanted to ask as well.
Seem to be navigating.
You know higher logistics environment, very well I guess is the increase in onshore freight rates impacted your ability at all to penetrate more of these sort of inland markets not the southeast right now.
Midwest and elsewhere.
Or is that a negligible.
Yeah. It trades trade has been coming up lately.
Seen an increase like 30% of the or 40% in the rates.
A container takes.
Between 40 to $80000.
Materials inside so they're afraid they are still a small amount like less than 5% or 5% of cost of product and transportation.
We have passed they then they cost over two customers.
Unfortunately, we have to do it.
On we are trying to open new ways of shipping to Miami.
Hana is a much bigger broader buttering here to see if we can no where the cost of shipping.
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess, maybe one more on multi Max I'm just be interested in any sort of milestones and successes you've had recently with new builders and then any targets or injected you guys can share for that business for the rest of this year or even 'twenty. Two if you if you're willing.
Well all the builders.
So how big do we have like six of codes, they're all happy with the problem.
The program performed was much better than the competition is better looking more border style.
And.
It has a much better gloves or there was a break because modes or very negligible.
Okay.
They are repeating.
Good boardroom.
Giving those.
Yeah.
No new faces over there doing that'd be.
I see that business in cruise.
And like I said before we don't like to go into a business go like Crazy and they don't know how it works.
These things are lose clients.
We're starting we're doing good they're happy with.
We fixed a few things.
Okay.
The way it was.
We shipped the lead times.
The parking you know, they're all happy we were more happy though.
[noise], Okay, maybe one more for me just it doesn't seem like you need to do M&A, but is it is it something you are looking at and what what would that look like if you were.
Yes.
So long as opposed to acquisitions would make sense.
And buying a company.
But we don't have the knowhow.
And Forno.
We have looked at many things and those are usually attractive your dog.
For the moment.
To even measure that or to do it because they get mergers or acquisitions.
We believe we can develop them as they grow organically.
Costs a lot less.
And look at our balance sheet.
It speaks for itself.
Okay.
Yes, well thank you for taking my questions.
Thanks, Brian.
Our next question comes from the line of Alex Rygiel with B Riley. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you and also a great quarter here I'm coming back to the multi Max product and in your other residential products. How many states are you now selling that product into and.
How should we think about geographic growth in 2022 for that U S residential.
Well actually we're now selling.
99% in Florida, where do you ever sold.
Like I said the last time, we are doing some trials in South Carolina North Carolina.
Texas.
They have been really successful people are happy we are learning.
We plan to.
To step it up.
And especially from.
John are you there.
This.
This quarter I believe.
No worries.
We're going to keep doing the luby's learning the truth.
How old are they like to be back.
Rajeev.
There's all the feedback.
And finally, the lives of the available a couple of problems as though we were busy.
In those areas.
This year, we expect.
Those are the states to start buying.
And the truth is the purchasing most of our bonds.
Yes.
And then turn it over to the U S commercial business, which was down in the third quarter.
You, obviously, you have very positive comments with regards to the backlog of that business and the reopening of that business. So how shall we think about modeling in the U S. Commercial business in 2022, I suspect its a little bit more sort of backend loaded in 2022, but your comments would be helpful.
Well in 2020.
You spoke to.
Don turned for 2022 in their commercial outside of Florida, because Florida is booming.
And we were expecting but no.
There are lower closes we believe we're going to be.
Sure.
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They look to borrow a little better.
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It's gonna look a lot better choices when they're tools.
Sure.
Very helpful. Thank you very much.
Local mode.
Thank you we have reached the end of the question and answer session I would now like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Jose Manuel does for further comment.
Okay.
Well, thanks, everyone for participating on today's call.
We hope to.
Keep doing our job and are having.
I mean, a lot of good news for shareholders. Thank you so much.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect. Your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.