Q3 2021 Douglas Dynamics Inc Earnings Call

Good day and thank you for standing by welcome to the Douglas dynamics third quarter 2021 earnings Conference call.

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I would now like to hand, the conference over to your speaker today, Sarah Lauber CFO.

Thank you welcome everyone and thank you for joining us on today's call.

Before we begin I'd like to remind you that some of the comments that will be made during this conference call, including answers to your questions will constitute forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different.

Those risks include among others matters that we described in yesterday's press release and filings with the SEC.

Joining me on the call today is Bob Mccormick, our President and Chief Executive Officer in a moment, Bob will provide an overview of our performance then I'll review, our financial results and guidance.

After that we'll open the call for your questions with that I'll hand, the call to Bob Thanks, Sarah Good morning, everyone.

Under the circumstances, we are pleased with our results for the quarter and are especially proud of our year to date performance.

I'm sure our comments today will echo what you've heard from many other companies during this earnings season.

Demand trends continue to be strong macroeconomic supply headwinds have intensified in recent months.

On a year to date basis, both segments have shown improved performance over last year with attachments in particular producing strong results.

The well documented macro economic challenges are hindering our ability to effectively address the robust demand we are seeing across our businesses.

First supply chain disruption and shortages have intensified, particularly as truck Oems all pull down their production numbers in recent months.

Second.

Trio price inflation continues to impact our margins as these unprecedented increases are outpacing our ability to pass through these costs in a timely fashion.

But we are confident we will recapture it over the longer term.

And third the churn and entry level a shop floor positions has increased in recent quarters and continue to be a challenge.

We've increased the entry level wages across the board and are starting to see an increase in job applicants.

We will definitely be feeling the impact of these items well into 2022.

I would like to give a shot out to our division leadership teams, who have been navigating these uncharted waters they've done an outstanding job.

Special recognition to our sourcing teams, who have done an amazing job keeping production flowing while strengthening our supplier relationships.

And to our HR teams, we're battling the hiring challenges across the country get leading the charge to ensure that we remain the employer of choice in our communities.

As these unprecedented headwinds continue remember that our problem solving dms mindset means we are better equipped to handle these challenges than many companies.

And we are continuing to implement short term cost control measures, including rolling plant shutdowns at certain of our solutions locations.

The strong demand outlook in both segments means we are well positioned for long term success and are focused on factors within our control while limiting the negative impact of macroeconomic issues wherever we can.

Now, let's look at each segment.

Beginning with work truck attachments, where we had another strong quarter.

Following the unusual third consecutive below average snow season, we produced $81 4 million of net sales in $2014 8 million of adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter.

As expected, we did see a shift back towards the historical 50 545 split in pre season shipments between second and third quarter.

Rather than the 50 50 split we saw last year, which was impacted by the pandemic.

That created a tougher comparison for us this year.

Additionally, if it weren't for labor constraints, we could have shipped more plow as this quarter.

Increasing material costs and labor issues impacted margins for the quarter, leading us to implement additional price actions as we entered the fourth quarter.

More importantly, we entered the snow season in great shape.

Sentiment remains positive retail activity over the summer months was strong and dealer inventories are currently at six year lows.

The resiliency of the attachment business cannot be understated.

When you look at it on a year to date basis. The attachments team is turning into a fantastic year.

Even with the economic and weather headwinds.

Turning to our work truck solutions segment.

Net sales of $46 3 million and adjusted EBITDA of $7 million, both decreased compared to the prior year as global supply chain constraints impacted our ability to up fit trucks.

We embarked on a 30 day rolling shutdown facilities strategy earlier in the year and that continued in the third quarter.

Utilizing the rolling shutdowns not only reduces short term labor costs, but also helps long term employee retention.

These shutdowns last only 30 days, so employees can collect unemployment benefits and retain their health insurance.

This helps us to retain this group of highly skilled installers.

Which will be increasingly important for the long term health of the business. Despite the temporary.

Temporary negative impact on margins.

We have implemented multiple price increases in solutions to combat material cost inflation.

And we expect to fully cover the inflation over the longer time horizon.

The Great news is demand continues to be strong at both Henderson and agenda we.

We entered 2021 with a record backlog levels, which have only increased as this year has progressed.

Records are being broken almost every month and.

And backlog has now more than one four times, where we started in January.

The Henderson team worked through the gap in production schedules earlier this year, but rolling shutdowns have continued at several facilities at several facilities because of supply chain constraints.

The big change in recent months was that chassis supply deteriorated further and we expect the second half of 2021, they have fewer chassis in the first half of the year as supply chain constraints really starts to bite the truck Oems and component and chip supply remains constrained.

However, we haven't seen and don't expect to see orders being canceled.

At the Jana the strength of demand across our broad customer base bodes well for the future.

We know we are always at the front end of the line for chassis and orders will be fulfilled by the limited supply of chassis and components was frustrating to all.

It bears repeating with record backlog of solutions, we are well positioned for long term success.

Let's turn to capital deployment priorities.

We continue to invest in the business to fund our long term growth initiatives as our vertical integration strategy continues we are lining up projects that when combined will help drive long term organic growth.

And we remain committed to our dividend.

When it comes to M&A, our list of Blue Chip company targets has not changed and those companies remain top of mind as we look to execute our long term strategy.

We will continue to forge strong relationships with these companies and we will conduct do due diligence on the logical opportunities that are presented.

We are ready to execute on deals should we find the right opportunity at the right valuation.

The valuations, we see do seem high.

We'll always take a logic will look at price versus long term growth potential and strategic importance.

In summary, overall, we are executing well under the circumstances and are positioning ourselves for success over the long term.

Demand trends remain very positive and we continue to adapt to the rapidly changing conditions.

We continue to play the long game, while managing the short game.

With our roots in an industry that is influenced by weather, we're used to managing through uncertainty and entering each year not knowing if market conditions will be strong or weak.

From supply chain labor inflation, we have seen more uncertainty in the last 18 months than ever before.

But our teams are built to manage through the unknown.

And use our continuous improvement mindset to exit this period stronger than we entered.

While we do this we are maintaining our focus on the long game implementing.

The strategies that will ensure we build our industry leading position.

Investments in vertical integration and new product development.

So doubling down on talent and organizational development.

Although supply related headwinds will impact our short term results, we remain confident about our long term future potential.

With that I'd like to pass the call to Sarah to discuss our financial results in more detail. Thanks, Tom.

Overall, our financial performance for the third quarter reflects robust demand dynamic limited by the economic reality facing all companies today.

Inflationary pressure supply chain constraints and the availability of skilled labor.

From a consolidated perspective, we generated third quarter net sales of $127 6 million and gross profit of $38 6 million compared to net sales of $133 8 million and gross profit of $36 7 million during the third quarter of 2020.

Net sales were lower compared to the same period last year due to the global supply chain constraints impacting production and delivery in the solutions segment, partially offset by positive price realization in all business areas.

We recorded GAAP net income of 7 million or <unk> 30 per diluted share compared to $9 2 million and 39% respectively in 2020.

On an adjusted basis, we generated net income of $7 million.29 per diluted share.

Compared to adjusted net income of $9 8 million and 42 cents per diluted share.

Similarly, we generated consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $15 5 million compared to $23 1 million in the corresponding period of the prior year.

Profitability decreased year over year due to the material and freight inflation versus the timing of price realization.

Production constraints due to supply chain shortages.

And higher costs due to temporary shutdowns and a tight labor market.

SG&A expenses, including amortization expense were $23 million, approximately $1 1 million higher than the prior year due to wage and benefit inflation plus the return of more normalized travel and marketing and our attachment segment.

These increases were slightly offset by a decrease in incentive based compensation based on operating performance in the quarter.

Interest expense was $2 2 million for the quarter, which was lower than the 5 million incurred in the same period in the prior year the.

The decrease is due to lower interest on the term loan resulting from the June 2021 refinancing.

The effective tax rate was 14, 6% for the quarter considerably lower than the 26% rate for the third quarter of 2019 due to discrete tax benefits related to favorable state income tax audit results.

Now, let's turn to information for the two segments.

Within our work truck attachment segment, we generated net sales of 81 4 million.

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The 6% increase was primarily attributable to pre season price action.

Adjusted EBITDA was $14 8 million during the third quarter, lower when compared to $22 million recorded in the prior year.

Due to inflation on input costs outpacing the earlier price actions and inefficiencies in manufacturing due to the tight labor market.

Following the initial price increases taken at the start of pre season, we instituted an additional price increase at the start of the fourth quarter to address the higher inflation.

Despite coming off another season of below average snowfall our overall pre season shipments were very strong.

Third quarter shipments were comparable to 2020, which is a difficult comparison as the pandemic has increased the emphasis on the third quarter.

This year, our pre season orders returned to a more traditional 50 545 split between the second and third quarter compared to a 50 50 split last year.

As Bob mentioned dealer inventories remain at a six year low today and some of our third quarter orders were pushed into the fourth quarter due to labor constraints.

That brings us to work truck solutions, where we reported net sales of $46 3 million and adjusted EBITDA of 700000.

Impaired to net sales of $56 9 million and adjusted EBITDA of $2 9 million in the same period last year.

The declines are primarily due to supply chain constraints, which impacted production and.

Led us to implement rolling shutdowns at several facilities during the quarter to mitigate the impact.

We will continue to utilize this approach as needed to maximize efficiency, while doing whatever we can to preserve our skilled workforce. Despite the short term impact we're seeing on margins.

Adjusted EBITDA was also negatively impacted by the acceleration of inflationary pressures.

Price increases have been implemented at both businesses, but the rapid escalation of costs exceeded the price realized in the quarter.

We remain very encouraged by the strong demand and ordering trends, we're seeing across the segment, which have created record backlog at both Henderson and Louisiana.

Turning to the balance sheet and liquidity figure net cash used in operating activities. During the first nine months of 2021 was $19 5 million compared to $27 1 million for the same period last year.

The improvement was driven by the year to date improved operating performance, which was slightly offset by an increase in accounts receivable due to increased sales and higher inventory due to inflation.

Free cash flow for the first nine months of 2021 increased substantially to negative $26 8 million compared to negative $36 5 million. During the same period in 2020, as we use less cash in operating activities and had lower capital.

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We saw $6 4 million increase in inventory to $100 1 million at the end of the quarter when compared to third quarter of last year, driven primarily by inflation.

Accounts receivable at the end of the quarter were $124 1 million right in line with the $123 2 million reported at the end of the third quarter of last year.

Total liquidity, which is comprised of $7 3 million in cash and $62 1 million in borrowing capacity under our revolver was approximately $69 4 million at the end of the third quarter compared to $93 9 million at the end of the third quarter of 2020.

Capital expenditures for the first nine months of 2021 totaled $7 3 million lower than the $9 5 million in the same period in 2020 due to timing of capital investments related to strategic growth projects.

At the end of the quarter, we had a net debt leverage ratio of two four times lower than three seven times at the same point last year.

Finally, as you probably saw in our release, we're lowering the top end of our guidance ranges due to supply chain shortages, we're experiencing and solutions.

Previously we had thought that July was the trough on supply chain constraints, and we would see sequential improvements monthly through the end of 2021.

Now however, we anticipate that our supply chain constraint inflationary pressure and labor shortages will continue to negatively impact our business in the fourth quarter and into 2022.

For 2021, we now expect net sales to be between $525 million and $565 million adjusted.

Adjusted EBITDA in the range of 75 million to $90 million.

And adjusted earnings per share in the range of $1 40 to $1 90.

Also our effective tax rate is now expected to be approximately 15% to 17% for the year due to the discrete tax benefit mentioned earlier.

Of course, our Q4 results, especially in attachments will be influenced by the timing location and amount of snowfall as it does every year.

As we look to 2022, we expect the current operating environment to continue into the new year.

A few comments on what we're seeing today and of course, we will have more commentary when we provide guidance in February.

We are pleased with the demand dynamic that we are experiencing in all businesses.

And expect to enter 2022 with record backlog and solutions.

We also expect some attachments delivery will be pushed to the first quarter 2022.

Supply chain constraints are expected to continue into the first half of two times 2022 for solutions as the Oems continue to navigate their supply chain issues.

We expect price realization will improve next year over 2021, and we're hopeful that steel pricing seems to have peaked in August.

That being said, we expect the back half of 2022 to be better than the front half.

We continue to monitor the external factor that will influence our results next year.

We have the right team in place to work through these obstacles and as the macro economic situation improves we will be ready to take advantage of the improving conditions and ramp up further production to deliver on our record backlog.

With that we'd like to open the call for questions operator.

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Okay.

Your first question comes from the line of team wise from Baird.

Yeah, good morning, everybody.

Good morning, Good morning, Tim.

Maybe just to start on on pricing.

And cost inflation.

I guess, how are you thinking about the timing in terms of when prices is able to kind of catch up to inflation at this point I guess.

In attachments do you think you can kind of exit the year being price cost neutral and I guess as you convert to backlog in solutions, how would you expect kind of pricing there to perform relative to inflation.

Yeah, absolutely let me, let me take a step back and I repeat something you've heard me say many times, we will cover the inflation dollar for dollar.

Timing, we knew this year would be a question.

We have had multiple price increases in all of our businesses.

I think the one.

That is probably highlighted more in the third quarter is attachment.

And so when we look at attachments, we essentially had two increases prior to pre season.

And I guess the way, we think about pre season and the way we manage our business we don't change.

Rising during pre-season so second quarter and third quarter pricing.

Stays the same.

Now as we entered preseason we do the best to predict.

That's what we're going to see.

What we saw though.

From the beginning of pre season.

Through the and still more than increase more than 50%.

So.

That's what led to the fourth quarter price increase.

So as we exit the year Tam.

I would say I think we're going to be close, but it's going to be very dependent on getting all the production out the door.

I am not worried from an attachment standpoint on covering it.

Going into next year, there may be a little bit of lag that goes into the first quarter.

On the solutions side, you pretty much hit the nail on the head there we.

We changed our closed since the costs are changing them, we've gone back and in many areas of our backlog.

Price will lag more so there because of the significant backlog that we have in those businesses.

And I know, we will enter 2022.

With that lag and its too hard for me to predict right now because of the chassis.

When when that will actually get all caught up.

Okay, Okay, but you have been able to go back on maybe some of your longer dated orders.

You have been able to kind of reprice for for some of the inflation yeah, absolutely. It's imperative with based on what we've been seeing from an inflation standpoint.

Okay, and then on the labor side just.

Do you feel like you've made the necessary improvements now to kind of normalize the labor pool and attachments.

And I guess in solutions because of the rolling shutdowns that you have been able to kind of keep existing employees, so that you're ready to convert that backlog when when you can.

Yes.

We've taken across the board.

Wage increases in our attachments business.

I mentioned that early on we immediately saw an increase in job applicants and we're we're a little early in that in that process you have to say that we've solved it.

But we are on a path to doing so.

We've also made sure that that those adjustments to permanent.

Labor rates will get reflected in the price increases that we're taking to the market. So that we cover both material cost inflation and wage inflation.

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Have been pretty successful so far.

We got a pretty good loyal group of folks.

That are that are hanging in there with us, but having said that we're still making wage rate adjustments.

That side of the business as well.

I don't know that anybody can can predict.

What this labor pool is going to look like or what the prevailing wage compensation is going to look like when this thing finally settles down Tim.

But I will tell you that is that we're all over it and we've made.

Permanent adjustments already and are positioned to do more if thats whats required.

And again that will all be reflected ultimately in the <unk>.

Price of our products and the value proposition of our customers.

Okay. Okay, Great and then just the last question I mean, I know, there's a lot of it.

Moving pieces here and the environment near term, but you know you had announced a two years ago and you outlined.

Longer term financial targets in your eyes has any of that structurally changed.

No not at all Sarah and I are both looking at each other both was one of the shelves no not at all at the same at the same time, that's that's what's <unk>.

Exciting for US right, we keep our eye on the long game, while we manage the short game and.

Perfect.

There is more reason for us to be optimistic about those long term financial targets.

Because of the work we've been able to do behind the scenes to prepare ourselves for those things Theyre just pushed out a year or two Sarah you can add your own comments as well, yes, no I think I think you've covered it well there is absolutely nothing structurally.

You know in the demand environment is there.

It's really just navigating through these short term headwinds.

Okay. Okay. Thanks, I'll hop back in queue guys.

Okay.

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Mcginnis from Sidoti and co.

Good morning, Thanks for taking my questions.

I guess, just a follow up on I'm.

I'm sorry, just.

Just a follow up on the labor obviously.

A tough environment, but given the vaccine mandates, especially in New York are you seeing any how is that impacting you and do you think that's a long term issue for you at some of your facilities.

Yes, let me.

That's a great question, let's we Havent, we havent talked about Colgate proactively for a while so.

So let me just start there.

As we sit here today across all of our Douglas locations. We are seeing very few COVID-19 cases, and absenteeism due to quarantines and that sort of thing has not been an issue.

We are very thankful for that.

The other thing that we're paying close attention to are the are the Osha regulations, which we just saw yesterday, while we thought they were supposed to come out in early October it looks like we may see something on that this week.

Our stance has been and will be we are always complied with osha directives and this will be no different.

Communicating with our workforce.

Letting them know what may be coming down the down the pipe in terms of vaccination requirements and proof and testing capabilities and those sorts of things. So we're poised to make a run at complying with those regulations when they do come out having said that.

New York as an example, right.

We've got some upside locations in the in the long Island area.

And those as of yet haven't fallen under some of the directives that you've seen that relates to a fireman and policeman and city workers and those kinds of things. So we haven't had to make any unusual adjustments there that have cost us.

That have negatively had an impact on the labor force or have resulted in people.

Leaving Douglas and going to work somewhere else not quite sure what the impact of that's going to be when the osha regulations come into play.

But as we as we sit here today.

While the Covid health crisis is still reasonably serious it hasnt impacted our business.

It has.

Six 912 months ago.

Great No I appreciate that and then just one more just around solutions.

You've done a lot of work on Dms.

Hopefully at some point in the future chassis get better.

What's the level of throughput.

Through those facilities and then I guess.

Is there any risk of timing.

Timing of getting those out the door to versus your backlog. Thanks.

Yes look.

One of the things I was hoping to be able to add some some color around again, we talked about exiting stronger than we entered.

This past January we we showcased our Illinois up fit facility on the Henderson side for the awesome DD MFS flow improvements that they've made in that particular business model.

And what we've done since then.

While we're implementing the rolling shutdowns are waiting for the chassis supply to come back as we are replicating that successful throughput model in our Ohio facility and that are in our New York facility. We had open houses and both of those facilities.

Just a couple of months ago invite a lot of our end user customers to see the changes that we've made.

And it was exciting all the way around we have strong relationships with our end users to begin with and nothing but positive feedback from those folks. So I am confident we are well positioned when chassis start to flow again and they will.

That we're going to see some nice margin improvement and profit improvement on the work truck solutions side, given how we position these facilities to respond.

Once we start will be chassis through them again.

Great I appreciate that thanks for taking my questions and good luck in Q4.

Thanks, Chris.

Your next question comes from benign of Mike Schnittke from D. Dan Sansone.

Hey, good morning, guys.

Hi, Mike.

Thank you.

I guess I kind of wanted to ask first about.

The risk of cancellations across your snow businesses due to the fact that it's a seasonal product.

Maybe talk about in Henderson.

In fact in some of those sales are meant to go to government customers that might have budget timing issues and then across the main attachments business.

If you can't get things in by December January.

Will people either.

Cancel or we found a.

Well from a different brand.

Got it Okay couple a couple of things there let me hit the.

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Municipal sides first okay, we are still seeing very strong orders.

Whereas as we.

We both mentioned their backlog is at record levels, having said that right. We went through a period.

Q4 of last year into the first quarter of this year, where we werent sure how the municipal budgets, we are going to shake out and it turns out that some of the government spending bills and some of the support for those things.

Pretty much put those fears to bed and so government budgets are are back on track now.

What we are paying attention to has to do with inflation impact on that right. So if you're if your budget is X.

You.

You buy 10 trucks, a year and you pay y.

If those 10 trucks a year now the price goes up 10, 15% does that mean that their budgets have gone up 10% to 15% and it all fits a nice and neat we're not sure.

There could be a period of time, where the pricing on that side results in I used to buy 10 trucks year I'm going to buy nine.

We're not quite sure we're paying close attention to that.

Mike now on the on the attachment side. This is really kind of interesting and fun.

Let me back up just a just a bit.

Lots of people lots of businesses have been hurt by the pandemic and there is a few businesses that have benefited the landscape business has benefited from day one.

With everybody at home doing home improvement projects, they've had a record year in 2020 and having another record year in 2021.

We are seeing that even in a below average snowfall environment.

We are seeing some pretty robust demand from those end users.

Okay. So they are replacing equipment.

They've got a lot of cash in their pocket.

We don't get a sense.

That if we carry a little larger backlog into 2022 than we normally do that we're going to see cancellations.

I think they will be happy to get the product.

Whenever it becomes available and they are in a pretty cash rich position at this point to be able to still make that spend.

Okay.

Can I also ask.

Across the business about chassis.

Are you getting any sense, whether it's into January or even in the other businesses, whether youre seeing customers willing to switch chassis.

Thank you Ram.

Switch to that.

What's available that day or are people still staying very loyal too.

To the correct.

Yes.

That's a terrific question by and large what we see regardless of the situation. We are operating in is a loyalty to the chassis.

That is part of their spec.

A lot of that has to do with performance and maintenance right. They know how to maintain those vehicles. They know how to operate on those vehicles from a repair perspective, and so the idea of a new chassis configuration and the implications and the ripple effect that has through the rest of their business.

Model typically is not worth it.

These short term timing.

Improvement that you make in terms of truck deliveries. So we haven't seen much of that I would also just add though that we also haven't seen cancellations.

And it's it's interesting as the as.

Lead times lengthen.

And everybody understands it.

We are still seeing very robust.

<unk> there. So I also don't expect we don't know that any one chassis supplier is going to substantially outperform anybody else from a lead time perspective as this as this chip thing improves.

But who knows right. If we if we see something that may be what youre, asking about will be will be something to pay closer attention to.

Right now Theyre, all kind of lumped in that same bucket.

Got it.

I'll ask one last quick one.

Thank you both you guys I didn't hear the word mentioned the price increases that you've put in there earlier in the year and here in the fourth quarter.

Surcharges is a permanent increases they'll go through next year, even if this COVID-19 crisis steel or other cost come down yeah.

Yeah, we actually have a mix of price and surcharge in all of our businesses.

I would say as I mentioned, we've had multiple price increases at all businesses.

It appears as if we go to the next price increase more gets rolled from surcharge into price every time, but we've still been utilizing kind of a mixture.

Okay.

That's it from me guys. Thanks, so much I appreciate it.

Thanks, Mike.

Once again, if you wish to ask a question. Please press star one on your telephone keypad again Thats star one on your telephone keypad.

I'm showing no further questions at this time I'd now like to turn the conference back to Bob Mccormick, President and CEO.

Thanks.

Thank you for your time today, we appreciate as always your ongoing interest in Douglas dynamics, and we look forward to speaking with some of you with the Baird Conference next week.

Have a great day.

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating you may now disconnect.

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