Q1 2022 Jack in the Box Inc Earnings Call
And Chief Financial Officer Timberlake following their prepared remarks, we are happy to take some questions from our sell side coverage analysts.
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And with that out of the way, let's get started I will now turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Tim millennia.
Thanks, Chris and good morning, everyone.
We continued to make progress on our long term strategic plan and delivered same store sales results of 13, 7% on a two year basis in the first quarter. Despite a continued challenging operating environment.
We are working diligently with our operators and franchisees to mitigate the effect of inflation and labor pressures on our business and remain confident in our path to deliver best in class unit economics to fuel our growth strategy.
And then I will discuss in a moment, we are well on track to achieve the long term growth targets that we laid out on our Investor day.
Okay.
We're also making steady progress toward closing our acquisition of del Taco and beginning the process of integrating our teams, while working to identify and unlock meaningful synergies as well as knowledge sharing initiatives, we will provide more insight into these efforts in the coming quarters.
Let's turn to some detail on our Q1 results and our start to 2022.
We are very proud of our franchisees operators and restaurant managers, who have navigated a tough environment to generate positive system wide sales growth led by our same store sales increase of one 2%.
This growth can largely be attributed to price increases in addition to an affected add on strategy during the quarter.
Same store sales performance in Q1 was nevertheless, pressured by limited hours of operation due to labor shortages and some unusual weather impact in the Pacific Northwest.
To mitigate the impacts due to the current inflationary environment, we increased pricing by five 5% year over year within our company operated restaurants.
This also allowed us to narrow the performance gap between our company operated and franchised restaurants in the quarter.
Turning to earnings we delivered diluted EPS of $1 85 for the first quarter with our operating EPS coming in at $1 97.
Just below flat when compared to a year ago.
I'll provide additional context on our earnings performance in a moment.
In terms of future unit growth the quarter was highlighted by the completion of 26 development agreements signed for 98 future restaurant openings, bringing total agreements to 50 and restaurant commitments to 201.
This is the highest level of unit growth commitments in company history.
While the results of building our development pipeline has been robust and encouraging we continue to make the needed efforts toward portfolio optimization, including the targeted closure of underperforming units.
In the first quarter, we closed 12 units, while opening too for a net decrease of 10 units.
While we knew this process would take some time, we are making great progress on getting the current store base, where it needs to be for our growth strategy is to take full shape.
As always keep in mind that with the exception of naturally expiring franchise agreements most of our closed locations continue to provide economics in the form of both royalty and rent contributions.
Overall, we remain confident that our growth strategy and focus on best in class financial fundamentals will enable us to reach 4% net unit growth in 2025 and have Jack in the box in 40 states by the year 2030.
Turning to revenues, we reported $345 million up approximately one 8% year over year. This increase was largely due to the growth in system wide sales and same store sales.
For our company owned stores, which as a reminder, make up about 7% of total store count and less than 10% of system wide sales restaurant level margin was 18, 3% driven by cost and labor pressures as well as the impacts from our evolving markets, which we are working to re franchise.
Franchise level margin driven by 93% of our unit portfolio was up 0.4% from a year ago due to improved sales performance.
SG&A expenses increased approximately $4 $8 million, mostly due to coli unfavorable ability and partially offset by a decrease in incentive compensation.
Our reported effective tax rate was 26, 5% for the quarter as compared to 25, 1% in the first quarter a year ago. This.
This was primarily due to the nondeductible coli losses in the current year versus non taxable gains in the prior year.
Combining all of these elements net earnings decreased to $39 $3 million and adjusted EBITDA was just over $91 million in the first quarter.
Shifting to cash our economic model remains resilient as it continued to generate attractive free cash flow in the first quarter, we generated free cash flow of approximately $24 $7 million and spent approximately $9 4 million on capex, primarily toward lease right of first refusal transactions maintenance <unk>.
Model and refresh of company operated restaurants in digital and technology initiatives.
In terms of our capital allocation at the beginning of the second quarter, we were able to take advantage of the favorable interest rate environment to repay in full a tranche of the company's existing 2019 senior secured notes and to fund a portion of the company's acquisition of del Taco.
Our $200 million buyback authorization remains in place and we will continue to view share buybacks as part of our total shareholder return strategy and will likely revisit this approach in the back half of 2022.
Our board also recently declared a quarterly dividend of <unk> 44 per share, which will return approximately $9 $3 million to shareholders and will be paid out during Q2.
I'd like to quickly touch base on the addition of Nashville to our evolving markets, joining Oregon, Kansas and Oklahoma as markets that we intend to re franchise in the near future.
The effect on restaurant level margin from these markets as temporary and we quantify their impact at 200 to 250 basis points until they exit the company operated restaurant portfolio.
In closing and before I turn it over to Darin I'd like to provide some perspective on the del Taco transaction and how it fits into our overall financial outlook.
As we discussed when we announced the transaction in December adding del Taco as an opportunity to scale, our business improve profitability and share best practices, while strengthening our capital structure.
We believe that this transaction is particularly critical in the current environment as it will provide us operating and financial synergies that will help mitigate some of the macroeconomic headwinds we are facing.
As we continue to work through our integration planning, we continue to be excited about the opportunities that this transaction will provide and the possibility of exceeding our previous target of $15 million in run rate synergies.
We will provide further updates on this and other aspects of integration upon deal close.
To wrap up we are very pleased with our start to 2022 and how the business managed despite a backdrop of inflationary headwinds and labor challenges, while delivering strong sales performance and record setting growth and our new unit development pipeline.
Thank you again for joining the call today, and now I'll turn it over to Darren.
Thank you Tim and good morning, everyone. As we begin another year I'm extremely proud of the work our team franchisees and operators are doing to deliver for our guests as well as our shareholders. Despite the industry headwinds due mostly to the ongoing challenges from Covid.
Their resilience and dedication enabled us to grow same store sales, while making strong progress on our strategic foundation and four pillars.
I have seen during the past year and a half many instances, where our scrappy challenger brand mentality and culture is truly a competitive advantage.
Particularly noticed did up recent as our team's ability to take on these headwinds with passion and tenacity has been on full display.
Now before I reflect on our results and progress within our strategy.
I want to expand upon tims commentary in terms of the state of the industry and how we see it impacting our business and our guests.
In November we signaled what the rest of the industry is now seeing namely that inflation and labor pressures, we're going to have an impact on Jack in the box and our peers in 2022.
This last quarter has demonstrated for most in the industry that these cost pressures are real.
And may take longer to overcome.
Let's touch on Covid.
We were experiencing positive trends in staffing and topline sales performance until the onset of <unk>.
Which temporarily reverse some of these trends and limited operating hours across many of our restaurants.
Like others in the industry have noted we are seeing improvement coinciding with the rapid decline of omicron.
We're not alone in navigating these challenges and most in the industry are using price as one lever to manage to be inflationary and wage pressures.
I do believe we have opportunity within pricing.
But more importantly, and something that differentiates us is the promotional strategy, we have executed since establishing our craved marketing approach and.
In essence, creating upsell and add on opportunities with a wide variety of craveable menu items.
Which is certainly a more sustainable way to grow average check over the long term.
We are taking a disciplined approach to pricing keeping both the short term needs and long term objectives of the business in mind.
Both our company operators and franchisees are seeing that their guests remained quite loyal even with our increased pricing activity during the quarter.
Which is a good sign.
Keep in mind that our significant pricing action didn't take place until the end of Q1 in January .
Besides our focus on upsell and add ons as part of our promotion. We believe there continues to be opportunities to take a surgical approach to price increases within our core menu.
Bind with menu innovation, we are in a unique position with multiple levers to pull related to price.
Shifting toward our results for the quarter, our same store sales remained solid and grew on a two year basis by 13, 7%.
Although limited hours impacted our same store sales.
Our performance shows that our topline drivers remain in great shape.
Even as we await the opportunity to consistently execute our strategy across all five of our day parts, which as you know is part of what makes the guest experience at Jack Special and will reignite <unk> ability to dominate the late night day part.
I remain confident in our potential to drive a balance of ticket and traffic in a more normalized operating environment, our ability to sell value and premium items concurrently offer upsell and add on platform due to our unique menu variety.
And bringing more new customers into the JAK experience via digital.
Our meaningful ways, we are positioned to drive balanced comp results.
Now I will turn to our performance across our four strategic pillars as our teams continue to make strong progress against our strategic objectives and roadmap to results beginning with building brand loyalty.
Our updated brand positioning and craved marketing strategy continue to resonate with our guests.
From a product and promotional standpoint, it was a strong quarter for our Burger category.
Including the Cheddar loaded cheeseburger, and our ultimate Burger platform, which led the way in terms of sales contribution.
I'd also note the strong performance from our tiny tacos Big box platform.
A great example of packaging and platform innovation using current items and it was just another way to utilize our add on strategy that positively impacts ticket beyond just raising price.
We continue to grow our e-commerce platform and digital capabilities.
Building on our strong progress from 2021 during which we achieved a 96% increase.
We grew digital sales by 38% in Q1 and 271% since two years ago. When we started focusing on this aspect of the business.
Our digital channels now make up nearly 10% of all sales.
And our digital database has grown 52% since a year ago.
Loyalty is off to a great start in its first year and it continues to help drive our digital growth.
Over 95% of our mobile orders are coming from guests, who are Jack Pac rewards members and we are pleased that our existing digital customers are seeing value in the program.
While we are only a couple of quarters in since the launch we look forward to providing more detail around active member growth and how it is impacting customer behavior in the near future.
I'm also pleased to announce that in quarter, two we will expand loyalty beyond just our mobile app by launching our in store jackpot program.
In addition, we will be launching our first ever web ordering platform and an entirely new mobile web experience later this year.
These additions will immediately help make online ordering and the Jack Pac rewards program significantly more accessible to our guests.
Turning to our next pillar driving operational excellence.
We are taking labor and staffing challenges head on implementing and testing everything from increased pay to automation enhanced training to local market activation all in the effort of attracting and retaining talented people to work at Jack in the box.
Building a top in store culture within <unk> and providing a place people genuinely want to work is our focus.
We will also provide them opportunities for development and career advancement.
We are committed to helping our team members and managers breakout of the box and reach their full potential.
This has always been a part of the Jack in the box culture as most of our franchisees started up by working in one of our restaurants.
We are focused on three main actions of operational improvement.
The rollout of our new guest experience systems and brand standards.
That enables us to significantly raise the bar on the expectation, we placed on ourselves and servicing our guests.
Improving the image of our restaurants.
Recently, we made our new re image and remodel program available to our franchisees.
We will certainly update you on the progress of this important initiative.
And lastly, and already underway is.
Is strengthening our training infrastructure, which includes online training.
Above restaurant level training certified training restaurants, and new restaurant openings support.
Our third pillar growing restaurant profits has certainly been a focus point for our operator experienced management team.
We continue to work with our franchisees on ways to manage through macro pressures, we are facing but most importantly ways to maximize profitability for the long term.
We have invested in and operation services team that is laser focused on innovating processes equipment and technology to drive out cost and simplify operational tasks.
As you heard from US this past December a record setting year of store level economics.
Highlighted by a 20% increase in store level EBITDA.
Supports our franchisees and their efforts to navigate industry margin pressures.
And positions them well for future growth.
And this is a nice segue to our final pillar expanding <unk> reach.
Tim mentioned, our development agreement signed in quarter, one and I'm thrilled that in such a short time since launch of the program. We already have commitments for 201 restaurants from our existing franchisees.
The strong pace and enthusiasm from our franchisees has me very encouraged about our ability to maximize our long term growth potential.
And that both the realignment of our relationship and our shared emphasis on finding ways to improve store level ROI and profitability.
Are beginning to pave the way toward our goal of 4% restaurant growth by 2025.
And let me assure you this is only the beginning.
Before closing I'd like to discuss a few thoughts on del Taco as we find ourselves closer to deal completion.
As I said, when we announced this transaction in December a key reason we are excited to bring del Taco into the Jack family is the perfect fit our business model geography customer base and culture.
Through this transaction, both brands will be able to evolve within many strategic areas.
Faster together than apart.
We are confident there will be synergies opportunities to scale technology execute on a common growth strategy and benefit from knowledge sharing.
Scale, certainly helps through short term pressures, but more importantly will help our long term efforts to position both del Taco and Jack in the box franchisees for even more success in terms of restaurant margins store level profitability and taking more share every day from the competition.
Over the last several weeks, we have been working closely with the del Taco team to develop a thoughtful plan to bring our businesses together.
Through this integration process.
I've gained even more respect for their team culture and dedication to providing guests with great food and exceptional experiences.
And together I believe we will create an organization that is a force within the industry.
In closing I want to reiterate how grateful and appreciative I am for our franchisees and corporate operators and their relentless dedication towards serving our guests, while we may face headwinds and while we may not be able to predict the future I can say with full confidence we will control what we can control rise.
The challenge and continue to make progress on our long term strategy that we will evolve our business.
Our brand and will bring Jack to places we haven't been before.
We appreciate you joining us today and we are happy to take your questions.
Thank you and as a reminder to ask a question you will need to press star one on the telephone keypad again that'll be star one on your telephone keypad until withdraw your question press the pound key.
<unk> will be compile the Q&A roster.
Okay.
Again, Brian Bittner. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Thank you good morning, Darren and Tim.
Jack.
Improving unit growth story as it prove it story in the eyes of the investment community and I think you guys realize that you have made major strides in the first quarter with these development agreements 98 restaurants doubling your pipeline to 200 can you just talk.
About these <unk> commitment wins and how they line up against your expectations as you walk this path towards the 4% net unit growth goals that you've laid out and maybe help us understand the timeframe of how these commitments transforming the shovels in the ground.
The follow up to that is just these wins are coming at a time, where youre still dealing with elevated net closings can you maybe explain how much longer we should anticipate this net closing dynamic to persist for the financial model. Thanks.
Brian . Thank you for the question. It's good to hear from you, let's start with the growth. We are incredibly excited by what we've accomplished with 26 development agreements for another 98 restaurants as we've said on previous calls those are split over about a three to four year period. So they are evenly balanced as we signed with our existing franchisees.
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We're confident based upon.
The increased activity of our real estate team working with franchisees going out into the market and really driving sites into the process, which we don't provide guidance around.
This pipeline is rapidly increasing and that.
We start to see this really start to turn into 2023 to a unit growth story, leading to our 4% growth by 2025, So it's all happening as we've expected.
The pace is picking up from a development activity standpoint, and this is just with our existing base, we're still out.
Talking to new franchisees, as well and increasing that pipeline.
As it relates to closures.
We've mentioned this before but we're continuing to do the tough work around optimizing our portfolio and preparing for growth the store closures that we had in the in this quarter, we knew were coming we budgeted.
Many of them were related to the St. Louis issue six of the closures so.
Most of these were things that we anticipated and prepared for.
And we will continue to optimize the portfolio throughout this year.
As we as we focus on moving to that 4% growth rate by 2025.
And Brian I'll, just add to that on the closures, we continue to receive economics on those so as they close.
Record that but also these units typically have fairly low average unit volumes and because of that to the extent that they have sandwiches sandwich leases. What we ended up receiving from those is fairly minimal to begin with so the loss here is is negligible as we close.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Brian .
Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Hey, Thank you just a question on the pending del Taco acquisition.
Specifically around the potential refranchising process.
In addition to perhaps receiving some inbounds from your existing franchisees, which we heard a few months ago is there any work you've been able to do ahead of time.
To position yourself to execute on Refranchising opportunities once the deal closes.
And if you could just speak to your desire to move fast and your ability to move fast.
Choose to do so thank you.
Yes. So we're currently in the process of obviously closing the transaction, we're mindful of gun jumping sensitivities in consideration. So the amount of tangible work that we're able to do in setting Refranchising strategy for del Taco is fairly limited until we close we expect to close in the second week or so.
Of March However, having said that we do obviously just like with Jack in the box with del Taco, We see refranchising as an opportunity a tool to be evaluated that.
It could be a meaningful addition to our strategic plan.
Add to what Tim mentioned, Brian we see the opportunity.
For the strategy of Refranchising that was part of the strategic approach that we took when we bought del Taco.
We've obviously as part of our due diligence looked at the portfolio looked at where we think there's opportunity within our <unk>.
Our system, we haven't had a chance yet to meet their franchisees and see where there's opportunity within their system and then we also know that there is plenty of interest from.
Outside the Jack in the box system expressing both interest in Jack in the box and del Taco. So we know that refranchising as part of the strategy. We've done some work, but we're not in a position where we can talk openly about it until post the transaction.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Gregory Frankfurt. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Hey, Thanks. Thanks for the question can you maybe talk I think you talked a little bit of a company store pricing can you talk about where the franchisee stand and maybe do you feel like you're in a good spot right now in terms of pricing.
You might take more in the coming months to kind of protect the margins where they stand. Thanks.
Sure. Thanks, Greg So if a company store pricing in Q1, we took five 5% that was a very deliberate increase in previous quarterly price take so in Q4 Youll recall, we took three 9% in preceding quarters to that we are in the mid to low threes. So.
We expect that we're going to have that as a tool and an opportunity for us to mitigate some of these inflationary headwinds going forward on the company side.
The franchisees.
We haven't disclosed the specific price take.
The percentage on that but they've maintained.
Sizable.
Increase over our company price take so theyre also using that as a tool to offset wage and commodity pressures.
The other thing I would add.
To what Tim mentioned is that a lot of the company price increase didn't take full effect until January so we're not getting the benefit of that in this much of the benefit of that in these quarterly results on the company stores so roughly.
Two to two 5% was November the remaining part was in January so it will start to see that kick in.
Into the second quarter.
Yes.
Thanks.
Thank you. The next question we have the line of Nick Chen of Wedbush Securities. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Thank you just as a follow up.
So what will the pricing be in F Q2, the all in pricing.
We're going to continue with our original guide of high single digits for the fiscal year and as Darren mentioned with the price take that we took at the end of Q1, we'll start to see that gearing up in Q2 is what we expect.
Got it.
And can you just maybe help us quantify or or identify the omicron impact.
Within the quarter in terms of the comp impact.
I know you guys.
Did a pretty good job of quantifying that staffing headwind supply chain headwind last quarter.
Anything in line with that would be very very helpful. And then any kind of sort of.
Quarter to date trajectory around post omicron normalization would also would be very helpful.
We saw the impact fairly similar to what we saw last quarter.
And note that our Q1 is for a period. So unlike most of our industry peer grouping, we saw or incurred a greater proportionality of that <unk> impact on our quarterly results than many others have.
But we did see something very consistent with.
With prior quarters, we also saw that dining rooms receded, a little bit. So we had fewer dining rooms open this quarter than last quarter as a result of Amazon.
We also saw those behaviors.
Mitigate somewhat towards the end of the quarter and start to recover. So we have we have an optimistic view.
Of that in Q2.
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To add to Tim's comments through the first three periods we were.
Sales momentum was tremendous and gaining ground and then with our period four as omicron spiked. We felt the same thing the rest of the industry did which was limitation on our day port day parts in hours and.
And we are.
Now starting to see those trends change as <unk> has declined and it's correlating.
With the decline in Omaha on that.
We're seeing stores come back online. So the good news is that the trends are improving since omicron.
Thank you.
Thank you we have the next question comes from the line of Gerard Garber of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Hi, Thanks for the question.
Darren and Tim you talked a little bit about the impact from the reacquired units from our franchisees.
Maybe 30 or a handful of above 30 company owned base now in.
There was a little bit more of a productivity drag in the quarter that we saw.
Versus our expectations I think partially based on that.
And then you also noted the 200 to 250 basis points of margin drag from those required. So can you just talk about I guess, two things one would be sort of a UV basis of those acquired units.
Including those nine that you just acquired in the Nashville area.
How we should be thinking about the productivity.
The company store revenues and then also what's the right baseline.
To base that 200 to 250 basis point margin drag and then finally, just kind of how do you think about refranchising those units over time.
Thanks, Jared a high level on your.
The beginning part of your question. There. So we did report an 18, 3% restaurant level margin for our portfolio.
And we noted that there was a 230 basis point impact on the evolving markets portfolio and that excludes the Nashville stores that came into that so we're guiding roughly a drag of 200 to 250 basis points.
And that portfolio that you can pro forma out that $18 three on top of which gets us back in line with some historical margin figures are in range of that.
So typically it is these evolving markets as you can imagine have a lower <unk> than the average remainder of our restaurant company owned portfolio.
And.
<unk>, obviously, focusing on labor as a primary margin driver to improve restricted hours in those markets and increase the <unk>.
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What we'll also do to add to what Tim said is we're actively refranchising a portion of these markets now.
We don't have timing, we won't provide guidance around timing, but we're actively refranchising them and also what we saw when we took over units one of the markets was underperforming from an operational standpoint.
Another market was what we found in both the markets and part of the operational challenges just staffing and so our corporate team has really been active on increasing staffing and training the restaurants, and we've already seen improvement in both Oregon and Nashville as a rule.
Great. Thanks, and then is the idea to re franchise those markets to one one operate one franchise operator than with the intent to grow that market thereafter.
Yeah. Our goal is to utilize refranchising for growth using multiple operators.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you we have the next question comes from the line of Dennis Geiger of UBS. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Thanks for the question just wondering if the full year 'twenty two guidance that you previously provided around restaurant margins and some of the key inflation targets.
If thats generally still sort of the right way to think about the year recognizing that there are some moving pieces in and I. Appreciate the color on the units that were temporarily bought back in but just curious if you could touch on kind of any any updates to those previous targets.
Alright, thank you.
At this point, we give our guidance in November and we updated in May.
We will have a better read as we get into the year.
But right now, we're not making any adjustments to guidance.
Yes, as we navigate the headwinds and we understand what's happening with the headwinds also our pricing ability.
We will decide if that's needed by may.
Thank you.
Thank you we have the next question is from the line of Alex <unk> of Jefferies. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Hey, Thanks, good morning.
I wondered if you could comment on any subtle changes youre seeing in the underlying consumer behavior, how they're trading up or any changes you've seen related to any particular consumer type specifically.
The rising gas prices here.
In California.
Inflationary pressures really but just anything you are seeing.
Yes, I think the biggest thing for those of us in the industry that we're seeing is what is considered the value consumer and what's the price point that you would notice being the value play consumer because everybody's raising prices pretty aggressively. So I think that's the part we're all trying to get our head around what what is now value is it five is it 6% $7 and how do we can.
To improve our pricing power for US we stated multiple times that our strategy is working with both.
The customers that we've segmented we've talked about some high end higher end customers along with our core base.
And the strategy that we've.
<unk> proven is that.
Have a very strong promotional offering with add on and up sell opportunities and we've seen that work.
We will continue to do that and focus on that and it's working for us as a competitive differentiation in the industry.
Thank you.
We have the next.
Thank you we have the next question comes from the line of Chris <unk> of Stifel. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Hi, Thank you guys for taking my question, which relates to the transaction performance.
Our math transactions at company locations are down about 17% to pre COVID-19 levels.
Is this primarily a loss of dining room trafficking and do you think the drive thru is capable of generating the throughput to recover those transactions.
Yeah. Thanks, Chris we don't disclose the transaction trends and behaviors I think we're pleased this quarter with our overall two year stack same store sales performance coming in where it did along with our quarterly one 2% same store sales.
We're also seeing some impressive growth in our loyalty base as our sales vehicle and how we look at transactions. So our loyalty program was up 68%. This quarter now we have over one 4 million members in that bucket and those members from a behavioral point of view.
Have a transaction frequency that's almost double the rate of our typical in store guest.
So we're really leaning in on those digital channels and are pleased with the performance to date.
Okay. Thank you.
We have the next question comes from the line of David <unk> of Baird. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Hi.
Good morning.
A question on your commentary around the synergies for for del Taco and <unk>.
I think Tim you said that the synergies would help to mitigate some of the macro pressures that I just wanted to ask you to clarify what you meant by that statement and weather.
You expect those synergies to flow through to profitability or do you do.
See them being an offset to some of the cost pressures that you might have in the business netting to something lower than that.
Sure. Thanks, David Yes, absolutely I mean, we're actively working with our business unit leaders here along with Bain consulting.
As an outside adviser in the integration process and clearly part of this acquisition when we looked at synergies was.
Both in short and medium term to identify economies of scale and particularly in supply chain channels distribution digital.
Construction outside of the P&L. So there's quite a few areas, where we see meaningful opportunity given the complementary nature of the two brands in both menu and geographical overlay.
So.
That $15 million that we initially guided towards as targeted synergies as a run rate. So that's not something that we anticipate to achieve overnight but.
Within two years, we expect to get there, but we do think that there is meaningful opportunities across a broad range of functionalities.
And just to clarify is that something you expect to flow through to earnings fully or do you think there'll be some cost offsets to that so you an ad to a smaller benefit or a different benefit than that on your earnings yes. It depends on the type of synergies. So if we look at for example supply.
<unk> just to provide one that we would expect that to flow through the restaurant level margin.
We're also looking at clearly other sort of cost synergies within digital and ops and other areas. But in addition to that we are identifying some top line.
<unk> driving synergies as well that we would expect to flow through so I would say a majority of these wood.
Primarily flow through the bottom line and we will have more to come on that as we get further along in the integration process.
Great. Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of John Glass of Morgan Stanley . Your line is now open you may ask your question. Thanks, Good morning.
Just going back to pricing for a moment I think simple math with my math would suggest pricing might be running like north of 9%. If you take the two price increases so maybe correct me if that's wrong.
Aside from looking at traffic and near term how do you know that's not too much do you have like real time tracking of value scores and if you do like what is that telling you.
Specifically because that would seem is still higher than some of your competitors at least on a national basis, but maybe it's different in your local markets.
And then just finally I think in the past you've provided maybe the average check size in absolute dollars on a number of items per order. If you had that for this quarter that would be very helpful. As well. Thanks.
We're comfortable with the price state that we've taken we feel it's in line with.
Inflationary headwinds on the commodity and labor side, we think we do actually have more room to go on that should we need to but we're still in line with our original guidance of high single digits.
Relative to average check size were just under approaching $12 and average check. So we've seen growth there. Our average number of items per check has held constant and steady so thats been encouraging that we haven't seen any degradation of that as we've taken price relative to the transaction, there's always sensitivity to that.
But so far what we've seen has been.
Pretty much in line with our expectations and our modeling for price sensitive its trends. So there hasnt been any adverse syndications that we should back off of our approach and strategy towards taking price in FY 'twenty two.
So my question was how do you know you have got that what is the evidence I guess you have on that pricing power with the data that informs that was the question.
We're constantly doing research and data driven approach to our pricing models and so we're looking at how consumers are responding through our market research.
Do it through an outsourced pricing authority.
We're working hand in hand, with our franchisees and what they're seeing in their markets. So we take a three legged stool approach to this.
Got it thank you.
Thank you we have the next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein of Barclays. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Great. Thank you very much my question is on development you mentioned <unk>.
Amping up the.
Development pipeline I'm, just wondering if you can share any color on typical terms of agreements with your offering any incentives to accelerate that growth.
What's the greatest hurdle or challenge to achieving that acceleration in unit growth.
Whether it's near term inflation or real estate availability or maybe brand recognition and new markets just trying to gauge the incentives you're providing if any and what <unk>.
Could be the greatest hurdles to that acceleration target. Thank you.
Yes, I'll, let I'll, let Tim address the incentives we havent the incentives in our.
FTE for the last few years. So we've it's been the standard incentive that we've offered.
As far as challenges I think the biggest thing is we've been out working with our existing franchisees working hand in hand, and we've used data to map every market.
And now the focus is about really driving sites into the pipeline.
We've seen it.
It really rapid increase of which we're not providing guidance on but an increase in our site approvals within the organization I think the challenge that we've seen is.
Many brands have reported they are challenged with getting equipment and supply related to whether it's HVAC or other items two to complete the build process.
That's happening just like supply challenges across all industries. So what we've done to offset that as we've we've used our balance sheet to preorder a lot of the items to be prepared for this oncoming growth. So that it doesn't hamper our ability to meet our objectives from a growth standpoint in 2023 and beyond.
Thank you. The next question comes from.
Alright. Thank you we have the next question comes from the lineup Lauren Silberman of Credit Suisse. Your line is now open you may ask your question.
Thank you very much for the question in the queue I think that mix for company restaurants was down 2% for the quarter can you talk about what's driving a little bit of a negative mix shift in your expectation from mix with the rest of the year.
Okay.
Can you repeat part of that question I heard the second half of it the first part about mix shifts.
Sure I think that mix for company restaurants in the Q was down 2% for the quarter.
I'm sorry, if you could talk about what's driving some of that.
Yeah.
You mean as it relates to franchise sales versus company sales.
Sorry, I think that it was average check was three 5% that we have company as you have price at five 5%. The next would be negative too.
Okay.
Tom.
Sure Lauren Youre talking about the mix within the company owned comp of.
Ticket and traffic.
Within average check being price and mix.
Yes.
Our lineup.
Okay.
I don't want to provide some inaccurate, but I think the shift is somewhat related to.
Operating hours.
And some of the company owned stores, specifically those evolving markets.
But we will handle that offline.
Alright, Thank you very much.
Yes.
Yeah.
Thank you and we have the last question comes from the line of Andrew Charles of Cowen. Your line is now open you may ask a question.
Hey, Thanks, guys. This is actually Brian on for Andrew.
Just a follow up to one in the last couple of questions here.
We were pretty encouraged by the acceleration in development agreements and I guess just within those so you guys talk a little bit more about the availability of drive thru sites versus let's say a quarter ago.
The efforts to make the footprint a little more flexible than paying off there.
Yes.
Drive throughs have been unaffected completely unaffected and we've been taking.
Increasing proportionality of our volume through the drive thru and off premises and part of that is also being aided by our digital initiatives as well so.
We've been pleased with that performance and that's been obviously, a competitive advantage for us relative to the industry in general.
At this point as far as sites, we're still seeing.
Plenty of an increased level of sites being submitted into our real estate pipeline.
So we have not.
We have not seen it.
The lack of drive thru sites or <unk>.
That concern hamper our development, we've seen plenty of sites coming into the pipeline.
Having drive thru ability.
Great. Thanks, guys.
Okay. Thank you and there are no further question at this time I would now like to turn the call over back to Mr. Darren <unk>, Chief Executive Officer, Sir.
We appreciate your time today, we were <unk>.
<unk> by this quarter and the results we're having in the momentum we continue to see in the Jack in the box business. So we look forward to talking to you further and thank you for your time today.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen that concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating you may now disconnect.
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