Q4 2021 Eventbrite Inc Earnings Call
Speaker 1: We enabled creators to transact over 290 million tickets and reach an audience of over 83 million unique buyers.
We enabled creators to transact over 292 million tickets and reach an audience of over 83 million unique buyers.
Speaker 1: While supporting the surge in activity, we also launched new tools and functionality for frequent creators and opened a critical new growth avenue with our Boost Marketing product.
While supporting the surge in activity, we also launched new tools and functionality for frequent creators and opened a critical new growth Avenue with our boots marketing product.
Speaker 1: We achieved positive adjusted EBITDA for the full year propelled by a 77% increase in revenue and a significant step up in growth margins and operating leverage. All of this reflects strong and consistent execution by our team.
We achieved positive adjusted EBITDA for the full year propelled by a 77% increase in revenue and a significant step up in gross margins and operating leverage all of this reflects strong and consistent execution by our team.
Speaker 1: When we strategically refocused on accelerating our self-service platform development and serving frequent creators, we also set a roadmap for sustainable long-term growth.
When we strategically refocused on accelerating our self service platform development and serving frequent creators. We also set a roadmap for sustainable long term growth.
Speaker 1: We've prioritized meeting the needs of frequent creators, our most valuable creators who typically have small agile teams and large loyal audiences.
We've prioritized meeting the needs of frequent creators are most valuable creators, who typically have small agile team and large loyal audiences.
Speaker 1: These creators need intuitive ticketing and powerful marketing tools so they can maximize their time spent on creating captivating events that really showcase their passions and skills.
These creators need intuitive ticketing and powerful marketing tools. So they can maximize their time spent on creating captivating events that really showcase their passions and scale.
The changes we've made to our platform has helped us successfully attract and retain frequent creators.
Speaker 1: The changes we've made to our platform have helped us successfully attract and retain frequent creators. Of all the paid tickets in the fourth quarter, frequent creators sold 67% of them, and their paid tickets doubled compared to the same period a year ago.
Of all the paid tickets in the fourth quarter frequent creators sold 67% of them and they are paid tickets doubled compared to the same period a year ago.
Speaker 1: Now entrepreneurial creators like the Greenwood Historic Fund are helping drive that growth. Greenwood is redefining what a cemetery can be as a destination by hosting popular walking tours, workshops, and concerts to the tune of nearly 500 events in 2021.
Now entrepreneurial creators like the Greenwood Historic fund are helping drive that growth green.
Greenwood is redefining what a cemetery can be at the destination by hosting popular walking towards workshops in concert to the tune of nearly 500 events in 2021.
Speaker 1: That's an astonishing 39 events per month, which helps them triple their ticket sales growth in the year.
That's an astonishing 39 events per month, which helped them triple their ticket sales growth in the year.
Speaker 1: We're proud to have helped Greenwood grow and preserve one of Brooklyn's first green spaces.
We're proud to have helped Greenwood grow and preserve brooklyn's first screen spaces.
Speaker 1: Just like the example of Greenwood, we're seeing signals that our platform is helping creators grow their businesses. In the fourth quarter, creators of paid events hosted just over three events on average, with a nearly 20% increase in average event frequency since the fourth quarter of 2019.
Just like the example of Greenwood, we're seeing signals that our platform is helping creators grow their businesses in the fourth quarter creators of paid events totaled just over three events on average a nearly 20% increase in average event frequency since the fourth quarter of 2019.
Speaker 1: Similarly, the average number of paid tickets transacted for events rose for the sixth quarter in a row, climbing 20% over the third quarter.
Similarly, the average number of paid tickets transacted for event rose for the sixth quarter in a row climbing 20% over the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Whether creators are adding events in response to strong demand or creating new events that attract new audiences, we're giving them the confidence and helping them succeed.
Whether creators are adding events in response to strong demand or creating new events that attract new audiences, we're giving them the confidence and helping them succeed.
Speaker 1: The accelerating strength of our platform is propelled by a product-led strategy that leverages everything about our sales, from our data, to our creator community, to our investment resources.
The accelerating strength of our platform is propelled by a product led strategy that leverages everything about our scale from our data to our creator community to our investment resources.
Speaker 1: More than half of our teammates work in development, including engineering, product, design, and data science. That's a material shift since the start of 2020 when this team was roughly just one-third of our workforce.
More than half of our teammates worked in development, including engineering product design and data science.
That's a material shift since the start of 2020 when mid teen was roughly just one third of our workforce.
Speaker 1: investments that we've made in our technical infrastructure and for engineering are enabling greater product velocity. This translated into more than 40 product launches and meaningful enhancements to existing products in 2021 setting new benchmarks for future performance.
Investments that we've made in our technical infrastructure and for engineering are enabling greater product velocity. This translated into more than 40 product launches and meaningful enhancements to existing products in 2021, setting a new benchmark for future performance.
Speaker 1: And we're working on further enhancing areas like navigation, checkout, and payments that will create an even better power user experience in 2022.
And we're working on further enhancing areas like navigation checkout and payment that will create an even better power user experience in 2022.
Speaker 1: I'm also excited to announce that we're establishing a talent hub in NDS. There is incredible talent in the city and region we've selected, and I cannot wait to welcome our new members to the team in the coming months.
I'm also excited to announce that we're establishing a talent hub in India. There is incredible talent in the city and region, we selected and I cannot wait to welcome our new members to the team in the coming months.
So summarizing 2021, our strategic focus on frequent creators is generating excellent returns.
Speaker 1: So summarizing 2021, our strategic focus on frequent creators is generating excellent returns.
Speaker 1: Looking to 2022 and beyond, we see many more opportunities for scalable product-led growth for the business.
Looking to 2022 and beyond we see many more opportunities for scalable product led growth for the business.
Speaker 1: Our ability to seamlessly combine ticketing, multi-event management, and marketing into one self-service platform helps creators manage their businesses and more confidently plan and track their investments.
Our ability to seamlessly combine ticketing multi event management and marketing into one self service platform helps creators manage their businesses and more confidently plan and track their investments.
Speaker 1: This is critical since many of our frequent creators are small business owners or solo entrepreneurs and their precious time is best spent on creating the content for memorable live experiences.
This is critical because many of our frequent creators are small business owners are solo entrepreneurs and their precious time is that's been on creating the content for memorable live experiences.
Speaker 1: The Eventbrite Boost product is helping to simplify social advertising and lift ticket volume for busy creators.
Do you think they boost product is helping to simplify social advertising and lift ticket volume for busy creators.
Speaker 1: Usage of Boost is growing strongly month over month, and subscribers have tripled since June .
Usage of boost is growing strongly month over month and subscribers have tripled since June .
Speaker 1: Leveraging our scale and data, we plan to introduce additional boost features in 2022 to help creators better acquire, engage, and retain attendees.
Leveraging our scale in data we plan to introduce additional boost features in 2022 to help creators better acquire engage and retain attendees.
Importantly, our expansion in the direction of marketing is relevant not only to creators of paid events, but also to the very large and valuable community a free event creators who rely on our core ticketing capability.
Speaker 1: Importantly, our expansion in the direction of marketing is relevant not only to creators of paid events, but also to the very large and valuable community of free event creators who rely on our core ticketing capabilities.
Speaker 1: In fact, since we launched an upgrade to Boost's email marketing capabilities, more than 20% of new subscribers have been creators of free events.
In fact, since we launched an upgrade to boost email marketing capabilities more than 20% of new subscribers have been creators of three events.
Speaker 1: This is just one example where our strategy and our marketing tools roadmap will expand our opportunity to serve creator needs.
This is just one example, where our strategy and our marketing tools roadmap will expand our opportunity to serve creator knee.
Speaker 1: Another opportunity we'll begin to address in 2022 is demand generation per creator.
Another opportunity will begin to address in 2022 as demand generation for creators.
Speaker 1: Eventbrite Driven tickets made up 24% of total free and paid ticket volume for 2021. And we've seen many opportunities to become an even stronger demand generation partner by putting the right event in front of the right audience at just the right time.
And then break driven ticket made up 24% of total free and paid ticket volume for 2021, and we see many opportunities to become an even stronger demand generation partner by putting the right event in front of the right audiences at just the right time.
Speaker 1: Eventbrite is still in the early stages of our long-term strategy, and we're more encouraged than ever to achieve the full impact of our plan.
And that's where it is still early stages of our long term strategy and we're more encouraged than ever to achieve the full impact of our plan.
Speaker 1: Our improved financial results prove that we can operate effectively in any environment, while supporting our creators and remaining focused on our goal to make the best live events platform for their needs.
Our improved financial results prove that we can operate effectively in any environment, while supporting our creators and remaining focused on our goal to make the best live events platform for their needs.
Speaker 1: And our team is excited and motivated to roll out innovative new products and engage with our reconvene community as we help creators power live events in 2022.
And our team is excited and motivated to rollout innovative new products and engage with our reconvened community as we help creators power of live events in 2022.
Speaker 1: On behalf of the entire Eventbrite team, we thank our creators, our employees, and our shareholders for their unwavering support as we enter the next exciting phase of our journey. We look forward to updating you on our progress in the coming year. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Lane.
On behalf of the entire Eventbrite team, we think our creators our employees and our shareholders for their unwavering support as we enter the next exciting phase of our journey. We look forward to updating you on our progress in the coming year and with that I'll now turn the call over to Lanny.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Julia. Our fourth quarter and full year results demonstrate not only the merits of our strategy, but also the strength of our execution in a very demanding environment for the live events.
Thank you Julien our fourth quarter and full year results demonstrate not only the merits of our strategy.
Also the strength of our execution in a very demanding environment to the live events industry.
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter revenue of 59.6 million was up 124% year-over-year and 12% sequentially.
Fourth quarter revenue of $59 6 million was up 124% year over year and 12% sequentially.
Speaker 2: Gross margin was 66%. A new quarterly record up 15 points year over year and seven points higher than we achieved even on our highest quarterly revenue prior to the pandemic.
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Our highest quarterly revenue prior to the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Adjusted EBITDA was 4 million for the quarter, a 7% adjusted EBITDA.
Adjusted EBITDA was four <unk> for the quarter, a 7% adjusted EBITDA margin.
Speaker 2: excluding the impact of non-routine COVID-related items in the prior
Adding the impact of non routine COVID-19 related items in the prior year fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA improved by $12 million year over year, almost $33 million increase in revenue.
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA improved by $12 million year to year on a $33 million increase in revenue, which represents a 36% flow-through of incremental revenue to the adjusted EBITDA line.
Represented 36% flow through of incremental revenue to the adjusted EBITDA loss.
Speaker 2: As of year end, our balance sheet shows $634 million in cash and cash equivalent.
As of year end, our balance sheet shows $634 million in cash and cash equivalents.
Speaker 2: with Eventbrite's net liquidity at $368 million, compared to $332 million at the beginning of 2021.
With Eventbrite net liquidity.
368 million compared to $332 million at the beginning of 2021.
Speaker 2: Our performance across 2021 is a great testament to both our external opportunity as well as our internal performance.
Our performance across 2021 is a great Testament to both our external opportunities as well as our internal performance.
Speaker 2: The progress we've achieved places Eventbrite in an exceptional position to pursue the rest of our strategy.
The progress we've achieved places eventbrite in an exceptional position to pursue the rest of our strategy.
Speaker 2: which means going beyond the leading self-service ticketing platform to become a ticketing sales engine for frequent creators and their amazing live content.
Which means going beyond the leading self service ticketing platform can become a ticketing sales engine for frequent creators and there are amazing wife concept.
Speaker 2: Having reset our strategy and our business model in 2020, Eventbrite is today a different company than we were just a couple of years ago.
Having reset our strategy.
This model in 2020.
And then just to be a different company than we were just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: We want to ensure that we continue to provide the most clear and relevant data that helps the financial community understand our performance.
We want to ensure that we continue to provide the most clear and relevant data that helps the financial community understand our performance.
Speaker 2: Accordingly, I would like to call attention to the supplemental slides we posted to our IR website today alongside our shareholder letter.
Accordingly, I would like to call attention to the supplemental slides, we posted to our IR website today alongside our shareholder letter.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's lost on anyone, but the engine of our growth and the core of our revenue model is an exact match to our creators business model.
I don't think it's lost on anyone but the engine of our growth in the core of our revenue model isn't exact match to our creators business model.
Speaker 2: How many events, how many tickets, and how much revenue per attendee?
So many of them.
Many ticket and how much revenue per attendee.
Speaker 2: Surrounding that central equation of creator economics, the Eventbrite business model has two additional gears.
Surrounding that central equation of greater economics, we have efforts of this model has two additional gears, how many creators do reserves and how much do we earn in exchange for the value, we bring to our creators operation and success.
Speaker 2: How many creators do we serve? And how much do we earn in exchange for the value we bring to our creators' operations and success?
Speaker 2: So creators, events, tickets, ticket prices, and take rates. That's our point.
So creators events.
Ticket ticket prices and take rate.
Our formula.
Speaker 2: With that in mind, we're providing additional metrics today around paid creators, paid events, and gross transaction value.
With that in mind, we're providing additional metrics today around paid creators.
These events and gross transaction value.
Speaker 2: not just for the current quarter, but also for all quarters back to the start of 2020, when we adopted the frequent creator focus, product-led strategy, and self-service operating model we have today.
Not just for the current quarter, but also for all quarters back to the start of 2020, when we adopted the frequent creator focus.
Eric led strategy and self service operating model, we have today.
Speaker 2: We plan to provide these disclosures consistently going forward and encourage you to reference the slides and we discuss our results.
Plan to provide these disclosures consistently going forward and encourage you to reference the slides we will discuss our results.
Speaker 2: Our starting point is attracting and retaining creators, particularly frequent creators.
Our starting point is attracting and retaining creators, particularly frequent creators.
Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter of 2021, 141,000 creators transacted paid tickets on our platform.
In the fourth quarter of 2021, 141000 creators transacted paid tickets on our platform.
Speaker 2: a 61% increase versus a year ago and 7% more than in the third quarter.
61% increase versus a year ago.
And 7% more than in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: The ubiquity of our platform and the return of in-person events field healthy creator acquisition across 2021.
The ubiquity of our platform and the return of in person events fueled healthy creator acquisition across 2021.
Speaker 2: and innovations in our products have corresponded with improved frequent creator retention.
And innovations in our product of corresponded with improved frequent creator retention.
Speaker 2: We are pleased to see the strong recovery of craters since the onset of the pandemic. Our paint craters dropped to 55,000 in the second quarter of 2020.
We are pleased to see the strong recovery of creators since the onset of the pandemic our paid creators trough to 55000 in the second quarter of 2020.
Speaker 2: and were optimistic about growth in our creator community going forward. For context, our prior quarterly peak in paid creators was just over 200,000.
And we're optimistic about growth in our creator community going forward for context, our prior quarterly peak and paid creators was just over 200000.
Speaker 2: And as global health conditions improve and we make progress against our strategy, we expect to reach new heights in coming years.
And as global health conditions improve and we make progress against our strategy, we expect to reach new heights in coming years.
Speaker 2: As you will also see in the new metrics table, there were 458,000 paid events transacting on our platform in the fourth quarter of 2021, up from 365,000 in the final quarter of 2020.
As you will also see in the new metric stable. There were 458000 paid events transacting on our platform in the fourth quarter of 2021.
Up from 365000 in the final quarter of 2020.
Speaker 2: Compared with the third quarter, we saw a modest decline in transacting events, even as our creator count continued to grow.
Compared with the third quarter, we saw a modest decline in transacting events, even as our creator counts continued to grow.
Speaker 2: We believe this reflects a natural adjustment by creators to reduce event frequency in response to near-term consumer behavior and demand.
We believe this reflects a natural adjustment by creators to reduce event frequency in response to near term consumer behavior and demand.
Speaker 2: One way to gauge that in 10-D sentiment in the fourth quarter is to look at paid ticket volume for Halloween events where we set an all-time record by a considerable margin versus New Year's Eve events where paid tickets were well below what we normally would have expected.
One way to gauge that intended settlement in the fourth quarter. If you look at paid ticket volume for Halloween events, where we set an all time record by a considerable margin.
New year's Eve events were paid tickets were well below what we normally would have expected.
Speaker 2: As the Omicron variant spread across our key markets in the fourth quarter, we saw paid ticket volumes soften after October into November and December and early January .
As the omicron variance spread across our key markets in the fourth quarter. We saw paid ticket volume soften after October into November and December and early January .
Speaker 2: This trend was more pronounced than our typical seasonal pattern and seemed to correlate with COVID infection trends as we've seen in prior periods.
This trend was more pronounced than our typical seasonal pattern.
And seem to correlate with Covid infection trends as we've seen in prior periods.
Speaker 2: It's important to note, however, that the impact of the most recent COVID wave was shorter and less severe, and we maintained a higher baseline than an earlier cycle.
It's important to note however that the impact of the most recent COVID-19 wave with shorter and less severe and we maintained a higher baseline than earlier cycle.
Speaker 2: Over a slightly longer-term perspective, we've seen paid events per creator increase by about 35 percent over 2019 level, as our strategy has focused on serving the needs of frequent creators and helping them grow their business.
Over a slightly longer term perspective, we are seeing paid events per creator increase by about 35% over 2019 levels as our strategy has focused on serving the needs of frequent creators and helping them grow their businesses.
Speaker 2: Another important dimension of creator success is paid tickets per event, which rose 60% year over year and 20% sequentially in the fourth quarter.
Another important dimension of greater success.
Paid tickets per event.
Which rose, 60% year over year, and 20% sequentially in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: All of that means paid tickets doubled year over year in the fourth quarter, reaching a new pandemic era quarterly high of 22.1 million.
All of that being paid tickets doubled year over year in the fourth quarter, reaching a new pandemic era quarterly high of $22 1 million paid tickets.
Speaker 2: Finally, revenue per paid ticket was $2.70 in the fourth quarter, 11% higher than in the same quarter of 2020, primarily due to an increase in average ticket value, with an additional increment from a slightly higher take rate, which reflects our strategic emphasis on higher value frequent creators.
Finally revenue per paid ticket was $2 70 in the fourth quarter, 11% higher than in the same quarter of 2020, primarily due to an increase in average ticket value.
With an additional increments from a slightly higher take rate, which reflects our strategic emphasis on higher value frequent creators.
Speaker 2: Looking forward, particularly over the longer term and across periods greater than just a single quarter, we will continue to execute against the financial gears we've just described.
Looking forward, particularly over the longer term and across periods greater than just a single quarter.
We will continue to execute against the financial gears. We've just described.
Speaker 2: Attracting and retaining creators by a product strategy aimed at providing ticketing ease and confidence, especially for frequent creators.
<unk> and retaining creators by our product strategy aimed at providing ticketing ease and confidence, especially for frequent creators.
Speaker 2: supporting audience growth and greater event frequency with marketing products specifically built for event creators that leverage our scale and our live events data.
According audience growth and greater event frequency with marketing products, specifically built for event creators that leverage our scale and our live event data.
Speaker 2: and increasing the value we deliver and the take rate we can earn by addressing more of creators' needs.
And increasing the value, we deliver and the take rate, we can earn by addressing more creators need.
Speaker 2: For instance, with high-value services such as demand generation.
For instance, with high value services, such as demand generation.
Speaker 2: we will operate with a self-service mindset that answers creators' desire for efficiency and which fortifies our own profitability.
We will operate with a self service mindset that answers creators desire for efficiency, and which fortifies our own profitability.
Speaker 2: providing the flexibility and the resources to continue to invest in our platform.
Providing the flexibility and the resources to continue to invest in our platform.
Speaker 2: Our objective is to make steady gains across each of these levers over time with the view that even modest progress made consistently on each lever can compound to drive very strong and sustainable long-term revenue growth and significant margin improvement for our business.
Our objective is to make steady gains across each of these levers over time.
With the view that even modest progress made consistently on each lever to compounded to drive very strong and sustainable long term revenue growth and significant margin improvement for our business.
Before I conclude I wanted to discuss the business outlook provided in our shareholder letter today.
Speaker 2: Before I conclude, I want to discuss the business outlook provided in our shareholder letter today.
Speaker 2: Based on our current outlook, we anticipate that first quarter 2022 revenue will be within the range of $47 to $50 million.
Based on our current outlook, we anticipate that first quarter 2022 revenue will be within the range of $47 million to $50 million, which would represent 74% year over year growth at the midpoint of the range.
Speaker 2: which would represent 74% year-over-year growth at the midpoint of the range.
Speaker 2: After a slow start to the year, paid ticket volume has improved significantly since early January .
After a slow start to the year paid ticket volume has improved significantly since early January .
Speaker 2: and trends have outpaced our typical seasonality as new COVID cases in our major markets have begun to recede.
And trends have outpaced our typical seasonality as new Covid cases in our major markets have begun to recede.
Speaker 2: Looking beyond the first quarter, we anticipate that paid ticket trends may continue to be variable in relation to rising or falling concerns about COVID.
Looking beyond the first quarter, we anticipate the paid ticket trend may continue to be variable in relation of rising or falling concerns about COVID-19 .
Speaker 2: However, there appear to be many reasons to be encouraged, and we have strong conviction about the resilience of our creators and the long-term growth of the live events industry. Over the past two years, we've demonstrated an ability to operate effectively in just about any kind of environment.
However, there appear to be many reasons to be encouraged and we have strong conviction about the resilience of our creators and the long term growth of the live events industry.
Over the past few years, we have demonstrated an ability to operate effectively and just about any kind of environment.
Speaker 2: And as we look forward today, we gather further confidence from our strategy and financial strength. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for the question and answer portion of the call.
We look forward today, we gather further confidence from our strategy and financial strength.
With that I'll turn the call over to the operator for the question and answer portion of the call.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lanny. We will now begin the Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. And if you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. As a reminder, if you're using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question.
Thank you Lanny, we will now begin the Q&A session, if you'd like to ask a question. Please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad and if you'd like to remove that question. Please press star followed by two.
As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone. Please remember to pick up your handset before asking your questions. Our first question is from Ryan Sundby William Blair Ryan. Your line is connected please proceed.
Speaker 3: Our first question is from Ryan Sundby of William Blair. Ryan, your line is connected. Please proceed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question and thanks for the extra disclosure there. It'd be fun to take a look at that.
Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question and thanks for the extra disclosure there.
We funded to take a look at that.
Speaker 4: Lanny, maybe we can just start. There's a lot there I think you went through, but circle back to the comments from the script there. Within the quarter, it's not like we're as slowed as I think we all would have expected as Omicron emerged. Is there a way to help us think about the magnitude of the slowdown you saw, either month by month or piece of trough?
Maybe you can just start.
A lot there I think you went through.
Circle back to the country trip there within the quarter it sounds like growth slowed.
Yeah.
I could cause omnicom.
Emerge is there a way to help us think about the magnitude of the slowdown you saw either by month or particular piece of trough and then.
Speaker 4: And then, you know, can you roll that forward into the first quarter guidance? As we look at that 20% or so sequential decline.
Can you roll that forward into the first quarter guidance.
Look at that 20% or so sequential decline.
Speaker 4: What are you baking in there? And again, it's not like you've already seen some recovery, but how quickly do we think about a full recovery?
What are you baking in there and then.
It sounds like you've already seen some recovery, but how quickly do we think about our total coverage in there.
Speaker 2: Sure. Thanks, Ryan. Yeah, I think the improved disclosure or expanded disclosure really is designed to help folks understand the gears that drive the business that we're pushing with all the product work and that really will, I think, compound over the coming years. Let's focus in just on the short term like you asked about. I would say the fourth quarter, you know, October was a great month. As you said, Halloween was.
Sure. Thanks, Brian .
Yes, I think.
Improved disclosure or extended disclosure really designed to help folks understand the gears that drive the business that we're pushing with all the product work and.
That's really what I think compound over the coming years, let's focus just on the short term like you asked about it I would say the fourth quarter October was a great month, as we said Halloween was well above anything we've ever seen before kind of record levels and that was sort of reflective of the strength in October . But then you had the health situation externally change pretty dramatically and pretty.
Speaker 2: well above anything we've ever seen before, kind of record levels. And that was sort of reflective of the strength in October . But then you had the health situation externally change pretty dramatically and pretty quickly, as we all know.
Quickly as we all know so that.
Speaker 2: so that, you know, normally we would be down from October to November in the teens, maybe we're at the high teens, sort of October to November in terms of seasonal decline.
Normally we would be down from October to November in the in the teens, maybe the high teens sort of October and November in terms of seasonal decline December . We were also maybe five to 10 points steeper decline from November to December than normal.
Speaker 2: December , we were also, you know, maybe 5 to 10 points steeper decline from November to December than normal.
Speaker 2: And so, what that meant for the quarter overall was that, you know, October was really strong, end of the quarter a little bit weaker. The overall quarter was fairly consistent with our expectations. Remember, we said, hey, we thought revenue would be up for the quarter, paid tickets would be up sequentially for the quarter, and they're up pretty nicely. But that seasonal, or that
And so what that meant for the quarter overall was that.
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Pretty nicely, but that seasonal.
Speaker 2: COVID-related seasonality that we saw also meant that we ended the year and went into early January pretty far below where we normally would expect to be. So, January started below December . Normally, January starts out kind of even with December .
Sort of Covid related seasonality that we saw also meant that we ended the year and went into early January pretty far below where we normally would expect to be so January started below December normally January starts out even with December .
Speaker 2: as the COVID environment was still really clearly weighing on ticket purchasing activity.
As the Covid environment was still really clearly weighing on ticket purchasing activity by the time, we got to the later weeks of January .
Speaker 2: By the time we got to the later weeks of January , that started to change and things have really accelerated. As we've said now for...
It started to change.
Things have really accelerated as we have said now for really I guess like a year and a half maybe two years.
Speaker 2: Really, I guess, like, a year and a half, maybe 2 years. It's not that difficult to figure out that when the coven environment looks more threatening consumer purchase activity for live events tends to.
Not that difficult to figure out when the COVID-19 environment looks more threatening.
Consumer purchase activity for live events tends to.
Speaker 2: this often and when that environment starts to feel a little bit taper and move behind us, people get really excited about getting back together and going out to live events. That's exactly what we're seeing right now. So, that's what feeds into our outlook for the first quarter. We would expect to end the quarter stronger than the start, but as we said, things can be variable based on the external environment.
Does this often.
When that environment starts to feel a little bit safer and moved behind us people get really excited about getting back together and going out to live events and that's exactly what we're seeing right now so that's what these into our into our.
Outlook for the first quarter, we would expect to end the quarter stronger than.
Start.
But.
But as we said things can be variable based on external environment.
Speaker 4: Got it. That's really helpful. And I guess I've always thought of Q1 as setting up the year. It's trying to start to plan out the year and then put on events and plan them out. Does this impact you beyond kind of the current wave in terms of, you know, delayed?
Got it that's really helpful.
I guess I've always thought that Q1 is setting up to the year. Its creative start to plan out the year and then put on events and pointed them out does this impact you beyond kind of the.
The current wave.
Delayed.
Speaker 4: scheduling and delayed planning. And so do you see a carry on impact from this or as cases come down, do you think he kind of bounced right back to where he would have been?
Scheduling and delayed planning.
So do you see a carryon and cash from this or as excuses come down do you think he kind of got straight back to where you would've been.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that we are learning about some new seasonalities in our business and just kind of in the world. But it's hard to peg that. You know, in the past, you're right, that our pre-COVID revenues tended to be pretty evenly split across the four quarters of the year. Clearly, as you look at the numbers that we had across the course of
Well.
I think that we are learning about some new seasonality.
In our business and just kind of in the world.
But it's hard to it's hard to peg that in the past you are right that.
Our pre COVID-19 revenues tended to be pretty evenly split across the four quarters of the year are clear.
Clearly as you look at the numbers that we had across the course of <unk>.
Speaker 2: 2021 and even 2020.
2021, and even 2020.
Speaker 2: as the COVID environment cleared, our year was really back and loaded. We accelerated off the low base. So, it's hard to parse through, but I don't think, you know, from where we are today,
As the Covid environment cleared our year was really backend loaded as we accelerated off a low base. So.
Got it.
It's hard to parse through but I don't think from where we are today.
Speaker 2: know, the first part of this year was a very different health dynamic than we're seeing right now. You're seeing states lifting mask mandates. You're seeing people be more comfortable traveling. More of the population is vaccinated. So I think all those things will
The first part of this year was a very different health dynamics that we're seeing right now youre seeing states lifting mass mandates youre seeing people being more comfortable traveling.
More of the population vaccinated. So I think all those things are likely to add up to a seasonal pattern, but isn't that old typical pattern.
Speaker 2: are likely to add up to a seasonal pattern that isn't that old typical pattern, but we'll see.
We'll see.
Got it okay.
Speaker 4: Then maybe just flipping over to Boost, I mean, it sounds like a lot of progress there in the last nine months, but you know, you're still going out, new enhancements here in the first quarter. Is there a way to help us understand maybe what ending year you're on with Boost, and how close are you to kind of what you envision that final product to being? Is it close now, or is there a lot of evolution yet?
Maybe just switching over to <unk>.
I mean, it sounds like a lot of progress during the last nine months.
You're still rolling out new enhancement share in the first quarter.
The way to help us understand maybe what inning youre in.
With boost and how close are you to kind of what you envision that final product to be.
If it goes now or is there one in relation to come.
Speaker 1: Sure, I can speak to that, Ryan. You know, when we look at what Boost is and what it can become, it's really, we're in the very early days of really building a destination within the product experience that allows for our creators to be able to be just way better and more efficient marketers of their events and to start building stickier relationships with their attendees.
Sure I can speak to that Ryan.
We look at at what <unk> does and what it can become it's really we're in the very early days as I.
Really building a destination within the product experience that allows for our creators to be able to.
Dave just way better more efficient marketers of their events and to build start building stickier relationships with their attendees and so we launched this product back in May after acquiring <unk> in the fall of 2020, and we've been really pleased with the power of the Eventbrite Jay that turned.
Speaker 1: And so we launched this product back in May after acquiring ToneDen in the fall of 2020. And we've been really pleased with the power of the Eventbrite data plus ToneDen's automated marketing capabilities and what that has offered since we first launched.
<unk> automated marketing capabilities and what's that what that has offered since since we first launched so subscribers have tripled since June and in fact, we've had them over 20000 events a.
Speaker 1: So subscribers have tripled since June . And in fact, we've had over 20,000 events mark.
Speaker 1: since we since we released our initial iteration of this.
Marketed through since we since we released our initial iteration of that we've been on continuous deployment with boots. So we're rapidly iterating and testing.
Speaker 1: We've been on continuous deployment with Boost, so we're rapidly iterating and testing.
Speaker 1: We're also expanding the surface area of BOOST. So just in this quarter, we actually have expanded into email marketing and helped our BOOST subscribers be able to send more email campaigns at a lower price and a higher conversion rate. And they get all of that plus the social paid advertising in one marketing hub. So we'll continue to focus.
And.
We're also expanding the surface area.
So just in this quarter, we actually have expanded into E mail marketing and helped our boost subscribers to be able to spend.
More email campaigns at a lower price and a higher conversion rate and they get all of that plus the social paid advertising in one one.
Marketing hub. So we'll continue to focus on the things that are that our creators, particularly frequent creators who asked us to do to help them build bigger audiences and convert and retain attendee and this is really just the beginning so I am very pleased with the product and the progress I think the velocity.
Speaker 1: on the things that our creators, particularly frequent creators, have asked us to do to help them build bigger audiences and convert and retain attendees. And this is really just the beginning. So I'm very pleased with the product and the progress. I think the velocity continues to pick up and we're listening to our customers and rapidly iterating along the way.
It continues to pick up and we're listening to our customers and rapidly iterating along the way.
That's great to hear thanks, a lot Julien.
Thank you for your question Ryan.
Speaker 3: Our next question is from Youssef Squali of Truist. Youssef, please proceed.
Our next question is from Youssef Squali of Truest Youssef. Please proceed.
Speaker 5: Great, thank you very much. And good afternoon, Julian, Lanny, maybe just as a follow up to the prior question, can you first just remind us as to how you monetize Boost today? And maybe you can just flesh out a little bit your product roadmap for 2022. It looks like 2022 is going to be all about kind of coming up with new ways, new and novel ways to try to help.
Great. Thank you very much and good afternoon, Julien plenty, maybe just a follow up to the prior question can you first just remind us as to how you monetize boost today and maybe you can just flesh out a little bit your product roadmap for 2022. It looks like 2022 is going to be all about.
Kind of coming up with new ways, new and novel ways to try to help.
Speaker 5: yourself become that ticket-in sales agent for creators that Lenny just talked about. And then I have follow-up.
Yourself become that ticketing sales agent for creators that Lenny just talked about and then I have follow up.
Sure. Thanks, so much.
Speaker 1: So Boost is a subscription product that we offer our creators. So you have to be a current creator on Eventbrite to have access to Boost. And the focus is really on helping them sell more tickets.
So this is a subscription product that we offer our creators. So you have to be a correct creator on eventbrite to have access to boost and the focus is really on helping them sell more tickets and what's exciting about the full base of our customers. As you know we have a really healthy free business.
Speaker 1: What's exciting about the, you know, full base of our customers is, as you know, we have a really healthy free business, 50 million free tickets in Q4 alone. And we're starting to see, especially with this latest release around email marketing in Boost, we're starting to see higher adoption from
$50 million free tickets in Q4 alone and we're starting to see especially with this latest release around email marketing invest we're starting to starting to see higher adoption from creators who come to eventbrite to host three events and Thats exciting because that's obviously a monetization channel that we haven't had before.
Speaker 1: creators who come to Eventbrite to host free events.
Speaker 1: And that's exciting because that's obviously a monetization channel that we haven't had before. And it really gives us the ability to connect the value dots for our creators who are using Eventbrite for free events and help them reach a much bigger audience. In terms of what that means for Eventbrite,
More and really gives us the ability to connect the value dots for our creators who are using eventbrite for free events and help them reach a much bigger audience.
Turns out.
And in terms of what that means for Eventbrite, we see a pretty healthy rate of that.
Speaker 1: We see a pretty healthy rate of sell-through for boots.
Three or four.
Speaker 1: events. So we're seeing creators who are using Boost, they're selling
Events. So we're seeing creators who are using this theyre selling in the high teens more tickets on average to these events that they're using to explore.
Speaker 1: in the high teams more tickets on average to these events that they're using Boost for. So today the product is really split into two different main, you know, value drivers for our creators. Today it's social paid advertising, so essentially a creator can come to Eventbrite, identify the audience that they want to reach, and create dynamic ads that will
Today, the product is really split into two different vein.
You know value drivers for our creators today is social paid advertising. So essentially a creator can come to eventbrite identify the audience that they want to reach and create dynamic ads that will return on average bunch greater.
Speaker 1: return, on average, much greater ROA to them than if they were out trying to do this in one-off fashions on different platforms themselves.
To them than if they were out trying to do that in one off fashion on different platforms themselves.
Speaker 1: The second, and so our product roadmap for that is we want to expand the surface area. We want to expand the channels that you can reach beyond Facebook and Instagram to other places where people are discovering live events, because it really matches with our demand generation principle of putting the right event in front of the right person at the right time. And we're actually converting that now into this marketing capability for our creators.
The second and so our product roadmap for that is we want to expand to surface area. We want to expand the channels that you can reach beyond Facebook and Instagram to other places where people are discovering live events, because it really matches with our demand generation principle of putting the right event in front of the right person at the right time and we're actually.
Converting that now into that marketing capabilities for our creators.
Speaker 1: The second is we want to give them other ways to engage more deeply with their attendees. And beyond a more efficient and effective advertising program, our creators really wanted us to help them send more effective email marketing, be able to reach a bigger audience through their email campaigns, and see a high convergence from that email marketing. So that's what we're
The second is we want to give them other ways to engage more deeply with their with their Kennedy and beyond are more efficient and effective advertising program. Our creators really wanted us to help them spend more effective email marketing be able to reach a bigger audience through their through their E.
Now campaign and see a high.
Conversion from that email marketing so that's what we're.
Speaker 1: focused on right now, we released the ability for blue subscribers to be able to send up to 6000 emails a day, which is a really big number for our customers and opens up an opportunity for them to be running higher volume campaigns with their their list of customers.
Focused on right now we released the ability for boost subscribers to be able to stand up to 6000 emails a day, which is a really big number for our customers and opens up an opportunity for them to be running higher volume campaign with their their list of customers and you can imagine that as we.
Speaker 1: And you can imagine that as we go farther down that road, we'll make it easier and much more intuitive to be running different types of campaigns at the same time. We'll be able to help them combine the efficiency of that social advertising with the email marketing, and we'll also give them a tool set to be able to re-engage attendees as they're building more and more community around their event.
Go farther down that will make it easier and much more intuitive to be running different types of campaigns at the same time, we will be able to help them combine the efficiency of that social ads.
So social advertising excuse me with the email marketing and we'll also give them.
Toolset to be able to re engage attendees as they're building more and more community around their event.
And I think that.
Speaker 1: When we look further out, we're really curious about how we can turn what we've learned through Boost into more power for our own demand generation.
When we look further out we are really curious about how we can turn what we've learned through boost into more power for our own demand generation today Eventbrite propels over 25% of all the tickets that are transacted on the platform, which if you look at just the paid volume equates to over 500.
Speaker 1: held over 25% of all the tickets that are transacted on the platform, which if you look at just the paid volume, it equates to over $580 million in gross ticket sales last year alone.
<unk> million dollars in gross ticket sales last year alone and we think that the signals that we're getting from our ability to match the right buyer to the right seller gives us an opportunity to look at things.
Speaker 1: And we think that the signals that we're getting from our ability to match the right buyer to the right seller.
Speaker 1: gives us an opportunity to look at things in the areas of demand generation, like promoted content.
In the area of demand generation like promoted content.
Speaker 5: That's super helpful. And just to be clear on that last point, today you are not charging for all that traffic and those customers that are acquired through the Eventbrite site, correct?
Super helpful and just to be clear on that last point you. Today, you are not charging for all of that traffic that those customers that are acquired through the eventbrite tight correct.
That's correct.
Speaker 5: Right, right. Is there a chance that that changes by year end?
Right right.
Is there a chance that that changes by year end.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's too early to give you a finite answer on that, but what we are looking at is how we can deliver that same amount of value, drive up the number of events rate driven tickets on the platform as well as monetize the value that we're delivering to our creators through these programs.
Yeah, I think it's too early to give you a finite answer on that but what we are looking at how we can deliver that same amount of value drive up the number of eventbrite driven tickets on the platform as well as monetize the value that we're delivering to our creators savings program.
Speaker 5: And lastly, just very quickly for Lenny, so grads on sustaining profitability.
Got it Okay. Now that's helpful and lastly, just very quickly for <unk>.
Any.
So congrats on sustaining.
EBITDA profitability.
Speaker 5: through the quarter and for the year now. The question is, do you sustain it going forward?
Through the quarter and for the year now the question is do you sustain it going forward.
Speaker 2: Well, as you've seen, there's a lot of operating leverage in the model. We have, you know, we've, you know, there's sort of an inherent dynamic with the gross margins, which have been moving up pretty nicely. And that reflects, you know, both our growing scale and
Well as you've seen there's a lot of operating leverage in the model we have.
Sure.
Sort of inherent dynamic with the gross margins, which have been moving up pretty nicely.
And that reflects both our growing scale and changes we've made to the cost of revenue and the way we're managing all the different costs within that line. So.
Speaker 2: changes we've made to the cost of revenue and the way we're managing all the different costs within that line. So there's a tremendous amount of leverage still to be had, points of margin expansion on the gross margin side, as we've talked about. We think that number can get into the high 60s, close to 70%.
There's a tremendous amount of leverage still to be had.
Points of margin expansion on the gross margin. So obviously you talked about we think that number can get into the high <unk> close to 70%.
Speaker 2: just in the ticketing business. From an expense perspective, you know, we've been, I think, very prudent about managing expenses during the last couple years. We've tried to plow as much resources and investment as we can into the thing that really is the locomotive of our business, which is our product and our development teams, and we'll continue to invest there. You can see in the fourth quarter, there was
Just in the ticketing business.
From an expense perspective.
I think very prudent about managing expenses during the last couple of years, we've tried to plow as much resources and investment as we can into the thing that really is the locomotive of our business, which is our product and our development teams and we will continue to invest there you can see in the fourth quarter, there was a pretty hard a year over year incur.
Speaker 2: pretty hardy year-over-year increase in the product and development expenditures. We're coming off a couple of quarters of really sky-high incremental profitability. Use that as an opportunity to invest aggressively, to expand the team, and set ourselves up for the roadmap we want to deliver in the coming year. So, we're not going to stray away from a self-serve model. We're not going to move away from our commitment to being, you know, in the long-term, an adjusted EBITDA.
<unk> products and development expenditures.
We're coming off a couple of quarters, its really sky high incremental profitability.
As an opportunity to invest aggressively to expand the team and set ourselves up for the roadmap we want to deliver in the coming year. So we're not going to stray away from the self serve model, we're not going to move away from our commitment to being.
In the long term adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker 2: profitable driver of value for shareholders. We're gonna invest aggressively in the product to drive growth. So I think you'll see more of what you've seen so far. Thanks a lot.
Profitable driver of value for shareholders, we're going to invest aggressively in the product to drive growth.
So I think you'll see more of what you've seen so far.
Excellent. Thank you. Thank you Julian.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Yusuf. Our next question is from Cameron Perrone of Morgan Stanley . Cameron, please proceed.
Thank you Youssef.
Our next question is from Kamran Peroni of Morgan Stanley Cameron. Please proceed.
Speaker 4: Hi, thanks for taking the question. On the conversion tracking feature of Boost that you guys talked about, could you talk about what kind of adoption you've seen or uptake from you've seen in that from the creators who have been using the social media advertising? How many of those advertisers are starting to engage with those measurement tools? And then staying on the product side but moving beyond Boost, you've provided some.
Hi, Thanks for taking the question.
On the conversion tracking feature of boost that you guys talked about.
You talk about what kind of adoption, you've seen or uptake from <unk> seen in that from the creators who are have been using that social media advertising.
How many of those advertisers are starting to engage with those measurement tools.
And then staying on the product side, but moving beyond booth.
You provided some.
Speaker 4: interesting color on in terms of the product pipeline in 2022 and wanting to kind of focus on enhancements and things like navigation, automation, reporting, you know, as we look at those kind of non-boost related product focuses for next year, for this year rather, you know, can you talk a little bit about priorities priorities amongst those? Thanks.
Interesting color on in terms of the product pipeline in 2022, and wanting to kind of focus on enhancements and things like navigation automation reporting.
We look at those kind of non booth related product focuses for next year for this year rather.
Can you talk a little bit about priorities priority amongst us.
Yeah, Cameron and welcome.
Great to meet you.
Speaker 1: So, on Boost and the conversion tracking, what we've seen so far is over 20,000 events being marketed through Boost.
Kim.
[laughter] on boost and the conversion tracking what we thought so what we've seen so far is over 20000 events being marketed through <unk> and we're not quite yet at the point, where we want to share with our subscriber number but I'm really pleased with the adoption rate and when we do things like.
Speaker 1: And we're not quite yet at the point where we want to share our subscriber number, but I'm really pleased with the adoption rate. And when we do things like
Speaker 1: release new features that our creators are asking us to offer them in order to boost their marketing, no pun intended, like email marketing, we see a really nice uptick in new user adoption. And so we're continuing to focus on, you know, not only making it easier and more intuitive to use these tools within the Eventbrite Boost broader product, but also obviously on supercharging subscriber growth. And what's exciting is that it's
Released new features that our creators are asking us to offer them in order to boost their marketing no pun intended like email marketing, we see a really nice uptake and new user adoption and so we're continuing to focus on not only making it easier and more intuitive to use these tools.
With them they've been prices brought our product, but also obviously on an supercharging subscriber growth and what's exciting is that it's built specifically for frequent creators so it.
Speaker 1: specifically for frequent creators, so it's something where we're not only offering them greater efficiency, but we're helping them build audience for a series of events that are
It's something where.
We're not only offering them greater efficiency, but we're helping them build audience for a series of events that are sort of as you think about it always on rather than just episodic and so that's a that's a really nice part of boots as well as the fact that it reaches the free creator user.
Speaker 1: sort of as you think about it, always on rather than just episodic. And so that's a really nice part of Boost as well as the fact that it reaches the free creator user base and helps us monetize a previously unmonetizable large portion of our customer base.
User base and it helps us monetize that previously and minus monetize about large portion of our customer base.
Speaker 1: On the non-boost side, think about boost as being the new investment area where we're doing rapid iteration testing and investing a lot in the future vision of what it can be. The core ticketing engine is something that is
On the non beef side think about food.
Boost is being the new investment area, where we're getting rapid iteration testing and investing a lot in the future vision of what it can be the core ticketing engine is something that is.
Speaker 1: in hyper-optimization mode, it is the engine of growth for Eventbrite and it can be expressed in the gears that Lanny talked about in our new disclosure. So, what we're looking at there is
Like hyper automation our optimization mode.
It is the engine of growth for Eventbrite and it can be expressed in the in the gears that <unk> talked about in our new disclosure. So what we're looking at there is focusing on two areas that are really key for our creators in our core ticketing business. The first is efficiency. So.
Speaker 1: focusing on two areas that are really key for our creators in our core ticketing business. The first is efficiency. So how can we help them save more time, especially frequent creators who are constantly on the platform, and give them back time to focus on creating awesome content for their live experience?
How can we help them save more time, especially frequent creators who are constantly on the platform.
And give them back time to focus on creating awesome content for their life experience and that really is foundational for us.
Speaker 1: and that really is foundational for us. So it's about making that shift to a multi-event management platform that's intuitive, that's fast, and that's reliable.
About making that shift to a multi event management platform, that's intuitive that's fast and that's reliable.
Speaker 1: The second area of opportunity for us is, how do we help them think differently about just marketing and promoting their events beyond even just.
Second area of opportunity for US is how do we help them think differently about this.
Marketing and promoting their events and beyond.
Even just beyond the <unk>.
Speaker 1: So, as we think about the reach that they have by publishing their event on Eventbrite, that's really where you start to see the demand generation engine start to take hold. And making sure that our creators know which tools they should be using when and how to use those tools is paramount to our success.
So as we think about the reach that they have by publishing their event on Eventbrite, that's really where you start to see the demand generation engine take place or take to start to take hold and making sure that our creators no which tool they should be using when and how to use those tools is paramount to us.
Success, So we measure our success through the metrics that we've that we've shown you in the revenue model.
Speaker 1: So, we measure our success through the metrics that we've shown you in the revenue model. And it's, you know, the area of growth for us in core ticketing really comes from continuing to optimize each and every touchpoint that our creators have with the platform so that they can get going as quickly as possible and be as successful as possible. And the final thing I'll say is in terms of investment there.
And it's.
The area of growth for us in core ticketing really comes from continuing to optimize each and every touch point that our creators have on the platform. So that they can get going as quickly as possible and be as successful as possible and the final thing I'll say is in terms of investment there.
Speaker 1: We are investing continually on the core infrastructure to make Eventbrite more performant and more reliable and to be able to scale with these surging demands for live events.
Investing continually on the core infrastructure to make eventbrite more performance and more reliable and to be able to scale with these surged surging demands for live events. We're also focusing more and more on new feature development and product enhancement that go straight into the pocket of our creator.
Speaker 1: We're also focusing more and more on new feature development and product enhancements that go straight into the pocket of our creator. And that product velocity has really picked up since last summer. So we shared over 40 meaningful product enhancements and features have rolled out to our creators. And we're just getting better and better at that.
And that product philosophy has really picked up since last summer. So we shared over 40 meaningful product enhancements and features have rolled out to our creators and we're just getting better and better at that.
Speaker 4: Great. Super helpful, Keller. Thanks.
Okay.
Great Super helpful color. Thanks.
Thank you Cameron.
Speaker 3: Our next question is from daily of JP Morgan day. Your line is connected. Please proceed.
Our next question is from Dae Lee of Jpmorgan.
Your line is connected please proceed.
Speaker 6: Great, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. The first one for you, Lenny. You talked about demand improving significantly in the end of January . I'm curious what you're seeing on the event creator side and the number of events that they're creating right now, seeing that an average eight events per creator did take down in four queues. I was just wondering how that's trending so far in one queue and to the extent you have visibility into how the event landscape looks going into the peak season of 2022.
Great. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question first one for Giovanni Thank you talked about demand improving.
Prevent significant end of January .
So what youre seeing on the.
Hey, Ben creator size and the number of events.
Creating right now.
Dividends per creator because <unk> was just wondering how that's trending so far in <unk>.
To the extent you have visibility to.
Now, let's go into the peak season of 2022.
Speaker 6: And we appreciate hearing that as well. And then in terms of the take rate, your take rate did improve to close to 8% in 2021 versus approximately 7% in 2019. So I was just wondering if that's more of a factor of more of your creators signing up for higher value packages, or if there's anything else coming back, and how we should think about that going forward.
On brokerage I appreciate hearing about that as well.
And then in terms of the take rate.
Your take rate did improve to close to 8% in 2020 oil versus.
Approximately 7% and for the United Cancer, just wondering if that's more of a factor of more of a credit or something for you guys. If I could do or if there's anything else driving that and.
How we should think about that going forward.
Speaker 2: Sure. Thanks, Jay. In the shorter term, the model seems to be more driven on the demand side, i.e.
Sure. Thanks, Dave.
In the shorter term the model seems to be more driven on the demand side I E.
Speaker 2: the if there's when there is strong demand from consumers, they're buying events quickly, the greater sense that we advertise or promote or let them know about that and
If there is when there is strong demand from consumers that are buying events quickly the greater sense that we advertise or promote or let them know about that.
Speaker 2: and the strong consumer appetite for events leads to an increase in frequency. Many creators have kind of a per-event capacity, and if they start selling that capacity quickly, they'll add new events to their calendar. We see that all the time. So, in a period where perhaps the consumers start to pull in their horns, the creators will sense that, they'll see that, they'll slow down their publishing calendar. You know, as we saw in the fourth quarter, while we were growing the number of creators,
The strong consumer appetite for for events leads to increase in frequency.
No.
Many creators have kind of a per event capacity and if they start selling that capacity quickly they'll add new events to their calendar, we see that all the time, so in a period, where perhaps because when we started pulling their horns.
Cleaners with some size, you'll see that will slow down their publishing calendar.
So in the fourth quarter, while we were growing the number of freighters.
Speaker 2: We saw a modest decline in the number of events, and I think that really reflected weather change in the consumer demand in the short term. So now, we've got consumer demand that's starting to go the other way, and one of the things we look at is, you know, how far into the future are creators purchasing tickets? And in environments where the future looks less certain, as you can imagine, the –
We saw a modest decline in the number of events that really reflected weather change in consumer demand in the short term. So now we've got consumer demand just trying to go the other way and one of the things we look at is how.
How far into the future our creators purchasing tickets.
And in environments, where the future lies with a certain as you can imagine.
Speaker 2: the time to event tends to shorten. And in environments where people start to feel more confident that, hey, in a month or two months, things are going to be good, we start to see a little bit more of an uptick in longer dated purchases, which has been happening since the start of the year. So I think what we're seeing is a pretty encouraging sign from the consumer demand side right now. We're talking very, very short periods of time. So it's hard to extrapolate that out to the rest of the year. But I would say from everything we've seen over the last 18 months.
The time to event tends to shorten in environments, where people start to feel more confident that hey in a month or two months things are going to be good we start to see a little bit more of an uptick in longer dated purchases, which which has been happening since the start of the year. So I think what we're seeing is a pretty encouraging sign from the consumer demand side right now we're talking very very short periods of time.
Hard to extrapolate that out to the rest of year, but I would say from everything we've seen over the last 18 months.
Speaker 2: That behavior does correlate with what's going on in the general external health condition, and it seems like there are reasons to be encouraged about that going forward. And we're seeing some of that right now.
Does correlate with what's going on in the general external health condition and it seems like there are reasons to be encouraged about that going forward and we're seeing some of that right now.
Speaker 2: On the take rate, yes, we have made some progress, and these are a couple of things as you look to a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, we talked about the focus on our highest value.
On the take rate, yes, we have made some progress.
These are a couple of things as you look to a year ago tiers, because three years ago.
We talked about.
<unk> on our highest value frequent creators that other customers with the greatest LTV those are customers, who are using the product everyday those apart the indicators for whom all the possible work that we're doing really is most specifically tailored to solve their needs.
Speaker 2: frequent creators. They're the customers with the greatest LTV. They're the customers who are using the product every day. They're the creators for whom all the parts of the work that we're doing really is most specifically tailored to solve their needs.
Speaker 2: And, you know, as a result, as you can imagine, the customers for whom the product is.
As a result, as you can imagine the customers from the park.
Speaker 2: the best fit, value it the most highly. So, as we focused on those customers, they've been able to share with us the growing portion of the value of their events for the work that we're doing on their behalf. So, I really think the change we've seen in the take rate over that period of time has been that customer focus. There's a little bit of an effect from average ticket price.
The best good value with the most highly so as we focused on those customers.
They've been able to share with us a growing portion of the value of their events for the work that we're doing on their behalf. So.
I really think the change we've seen in the take rate over that period of time has been has been that customer focus there's a little bit of an effect.
Average ticket price there is components of our pricing structure that are a fixed flat fee plus a variable fee.
Speaker 2: There's components of our pricing structure that are a fixed flat fee plus a variable fee. And if the ticker price varies, you know, you'd have
Ticket price varies.
You would have.
Speaker 2: know, if the ticket price goes up, you might get a little bit lower take rate because you can do the math. A fixed piece becomes a little bit smaller and goes the other way. The fixed piece is a little bit bigger if the variable against the ticket price is coming down. But that's a pretty small effect. And I think really the primary driver has been the focus on the customers that are our core frequent grading customers.
So it seems like it goes up you might get a little bit lower take rate because.
You can do the math the fixed base becomes a little bit smaller and it goes the other way the fixed pieces a little bit bigger.
The variable against the ticket prices coming down, but that's a pretty small effects like really the primary driver has been the focus on the customers that are our core frequent creating customers.
Got it thank you.
Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you des.
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