Q4 2021 CBIZ Inc Earnings Call

February 17, 2022

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Good morning, everyone and welcome to the <unk> fourth quarter and full year 2021 results conference call.

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At this time I'd like to turn the floor over to Lori <unk> director of corporate Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us for the <unk> fourth quarter and full year 2021 results conference call.

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Joining us for today's call are Jerry Chriscoe, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ware Grove, Chief Financial Officer, I will now turn the call over to Jerry for his opening remarks Jerry.

Thank you Lori <unk>.

We are proud to share our fourth quarter and full year results for 2021, and our outlook for this year.

For nearly every measurable perspective, 2021 was at or near our strongest performance in recent history.

Most notably for the full year total revenue was up 14, 6%.

Organic revenue grew seven 7% adjusted earnings per share was up 16, 9%, our adjusted EBITDA improved 12, 4%.

Our stock price increased 47%.

And with the additions of marked panic announced in early January of this year, we made seven acquisitions, adding over $200 million in annualized revenue.

And our strong revenue growth for the first nine months of the year continued into the fourth quarter, where our total revenue was up 15% and our organic revenue grew 494%.

Our full year results are the direct outcome of the strategic direction that we established for the business over five years ago.

The investments that we've made to support that strategy the fundamental attributes of our business and the commitment and character of our over 6000 team members across CBS .

And it's important to note our full year growth came from nearly every major service line across the business.

Our results demonstrate important alignment and focus of our team.

Our commitment to sustained growth and our success in 2021 provides important momentum for the coming year.

Within our financial services group demand for our central accounting and tax services remained strong throughout 2021.

Our clients rely on us for these services to conduct their businesses and they turn to us to provide them regardless of the business climate.

An important difference in 2021 versus the prior year.

With a significant increase in demand that we experienced for our advisory services.

Much of which are project based and more discretionary.

We saw a decline for those services in the first half of 2020 as business has navigated the uncertainty of the pandemic.

Demand for those services began to return in the second half of 2020 and that trend continued and gained momentum throughout 2021.

We also benefited from the multiyear investments that we've been making to improve our processes systems tools support and training the better equip our teams to improve pricing and profitability on our client engagements.

We saw the impact of these investments in 2021.

As more consistent and disciplined approach to pricing helped to fuel growth across many of our service lines.

One area, where we experienced somewhat slower growth than in prior years was our government healthcare consulting business, where the rate of growth was in the low single digits.

The slower rate of growth in this business was caused by a number of factors, including the loss of a large federal contract that we were awarded but was then subsequently canceled and the number of states that had not yet fully reopened following the omicron variance Serge.

While we have proven to be quite effective when working remotely in this area being present on site often improves productivity and enables us to be more proactive in identifying opportunities to better serve our government clients.

Now turning to our benefits and insurance Division, we experienced strong growth and performance across nearly every major service line payroll being the one exception as I will explain in a moment.

I wanted to start with our employee benefits business, where we experienced our strongest rate of organic growth in six years.

Our growth in this area is being driven in large part by the investments that we've been making over the past several years to increase the number of producers enhanced and standardize the sales and marketing and services process and leverage digital marketing strategies.

Client retention rates of over 90% and they improved even further last year.

Further our producer count a key growth indicator for this business is also up by 15% over the prior year with the new hires added through 2021.

Our property and casualty insurance business also experienced high client retention rates and strong production in 2021 the.

The commercial side of the business continues to perform well and.

And improved demand for our program services lines bolstered our performance in this area.

Similar to our employee benefits business. We're also investing in standardizing, our sales management processes and increasing the number of producers within our P&C business.

The retirement and investment solutions business experienced similar trends with strong production contributing to growth.

While favorable market conditions aided the defined contribution investment strategies components of this business.

And while they make up a small segment of our benefits and insurance Division, our advisory and project based businesses, such as our executive search and compensation consulting business also benefited from strong demand in 2021 and are off to a similar start this year.

Now turning to payroll.

While we continue to experience strong demand for our payroll platform targeting larger clients with more complex payroll needs the impact of the pandemic on our legacy payroll platform, which generally serves our small business clients dampened our overall performance within this service line in 2021.

Overall as I mentioned in my opening remarks, we're exceptionally pleased with the outstanding performance of the business throughout 2021.

While a number of significant factors that could impact the business climate remain uncertain for 2022 based on our strong financial performance over the past two years the high demand for our services that we continue to experience.

The investments to accelerate growth that we've made in the business, our strong balance sheet and outlook for 2022.

We will once again be providing financial guidance for the year.

Similar to last year I want to caution that.

That we do expect more volatility in our financial results from quarter to quarter than we've historically experienced.

Due in part to the significant number of acquisitions completed in the past 12 months.

As a result, we advise against comparing any given quarter to the same period in the prior year.

With this I will turn it over to Ware Grove, our Chief financial Officer to provide more specific details on our financial performance for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2021.

Thank you Jerry and good morning, everyone let.

Let me take a few minutes to go through the highlights of our fourth quarter and full year results for 2021.

And also comment on our outlook and guidance for 2022.

Our strong revenue growth, we reported through third quarter of 'twenty, one continued through the fourth quarter.

With fourth quarter total revenue up 15% compared with fourth quarter, a year ago same unit revenue grew by nine 4% in the fourth quarter.

For the full year total revenue grew by 14, 6% with same unit revenue up seven 7% for the full year.

As we reported earlier in 2021, eliminating the second quarter net impact of the $35 million legal settlement with <unk>.

And eliminating the $6 $3 million gain on sale of empty donohoe, our wholesale insurance brokerage business that was divested in the second quarter earnings per share adjusted for these items was $1 66 per share for the full year up 16, 9% from $1 42.

Reported a year ago.

We will continue to say that it is our goal to achieve margin improvement of 20 to 50 basis points, a year or more in.

In 2021, however, there were unique year over year COVID-19 influence patterns to expenses.

In addition, the second half of the year and particularly the fourth quarter was impacted by the seasonal nature of the mid year acquisitions. We made during 2021 combined with a higher level of related acquisition fees and legal expenses.

The acquisition activity that occurred in 2021 will position us for strong growth in 2022.

The full year impact expected in 'twenty, two will be very accretive and this will help fuel our growth in 2022.

However, with the seasonal nature of these financial services businesses that were acquired during mid year 'twenty. One this caused a larger fourth quarter loss.

Also with heightened acquisition activity, we incurred an increased level of legal and acquisition related expenses in the fourth quarter. This year and combined these two factors impacted earnings per share by <unk> 10 cents a share in the fourth quarter. This year.

Beginning mid year of 'twenty. One we also talked about the expected second half normalization of expenses, such as health care benefits.

Travel and entertainment and marketing expenses that would present headwinds in the second half of 'twenty one.

When compared with a lower level of expenses. During the same period of 2020. These higher expenses impacted earnings per share by <unk> <unk> per share in the fourth quarter compared with the prior year.

In comparison with 2020 these expenses in 'twenty, one had a negative impact in.

In 2022. These expenses are expected to level out at close to pre pandemic levels with the exception of travel and entertainment expense.

Where our migration to virtual and digital communications with clients and prospects is expected to result in a future travel entertainment expense at a problem at approximately 50% to 60% of pre pandemic levels.

Within financial services total revenue grew by 18, 7% in the fourth quarter and grew by 16, 6% for the full year.

Same unit revenue grew by 11, 7% in the fourth quarter and for the full year same unit revenue grew by nine 3%.

Growth was recorded across all lines of service with exceptionally strong same unit growth reported with our advisory services, which includes private equity consulting risks and advisory services valuation and others.

Within our benefits and insurance services group.

Total revenue grew by nine point.

Zero percent in the fourth quarter and grew by 11, 6% for the full year.

Same unit revenue grew by five 3% in the fourth quarter and was up by four 6% for the year with.

With the exception of payroll services, all services contributed to growth most notably the property and casualty service line, where strong market conditions combined with strong new client business development and strong client retention factors all favorably aligned.

Within benefits and insurance were happy to see positive results gained traction with our continued investment in new business producers.

I spoke earlier on the seasonal nature of the midyear 2021 acquisitions and the impact on earnings in the fourth quarter.

There is a normal seasonal pattern for these businesses to record strong first half results followed by a relatively weaker second half.

These acquisitions are performing in line with expectations and contributed five 6% to total revenue growth in the fourth quarter and added six 9% to total revenue growth for the full year of 2021 .

Cash flow and liquidity continue to be very strong during 'twenty, one we used $83 million for acquisition purposes, including earn out payments on prior acquisitions with a March past transaction occurring in early January of 2022, we used in.

Additional $72 5 million for a payment upon the close of that transaction.

During 2021, we used approximately $97 million to repurchase a total of $3 8 million shares.

Depending on a number of factors, including our future acquisition pipeline.

We intend to continue to repurchase shares.

Fully diluted weighted average shares for 2021 was approximately $53 7 million shares and we expect the share count within a range of 53 to $53 5 million fully diluted shares for 2022 .

Total debt outstanding on our 400 million our credit facility was $155 million at year end 2021 after.

After giving effect to the payment to close marks pad has been early January the outstanding balance was approximately $228 million.

As we indicated during our investor call on January 12.

And utilized borrowing capacity on the credit facility was approximately $160 million at that time with leverage measured against adjusted EBITDA at approximately one five times.

This leaves sufficient unused capacity to enable us to continue with acquisition activities and conduct future share repurchases.

Looking forward estimated future payments for earn outs, including future payments estimated for Mark's Panna R $24 $5 million in 2000 $20 million to $40 million in 'twenty, 'twenty $343 $6 million in 2024, and $23 1 million.

In 2025.

Capital spending for the full year of <unk> 21 was $9 million.

With $2 $5 million in the fourth quarter.

We expect capital spending within a range of $10 million to $12 million looking ahead to 2022 .

Performance on receivables continues to be good days sales outstanding at year end 2021 was 71 days compared with 72 days the prior year.

Bad debt expense for the full year was 32 basis points of revenue compared with 46 basis points of revenue the prior year.

The effective tax rate for the full year of 2021 was 23, 8%.

Going into 2022, considering increased operating activities within New York, and California, both of which have relatively higher state income tax rates, we expect the consolidated effective tax rate to be approximately 25%.

But we should note that the effective tax rate can be influenced either up or down by a number of unpredictable factors.

Adjusted EBITDA was $148 5 million or 13, 4% of revenue in 2021, compared with $132 1 million a year ago.

As we turn to 2022 there are a number of items to consider.

With annualized revenue of $75 million the acquisitions made in 2021, we will have a positive full year impact to revenue and will be accretive to earnings for the full year of 2022 .

Core financial services and benefits and insurance businesses are continuing to perform very well with improved margins expected in 2022 .

On January 10th this year, we announced the acquisition of <unk> past.

The March <unk> acquisition is expected to contribute $138 million to revenue growth.

In 2022.

In our conference call on January 12, we outlined our expectation that due to anticipated first year transaction and integration costs. The GAAP reported earnings impact from Mark's Panna is expected to be minimal in 2022 .

Adjusting to eliminate the impact of these first year costs. The expected earnings impact will be approximately <unk> 10 per share.

Longer term, we expect the contribution to be in the 20% to 25 per share range by <unk> 25, once the initial earn out and integration activities are fully addressed.

In 2022, we expect the adjusted EBITDA contribution from Mark's Panna. Similarly, adjusted to eliminate first year integration costs at approximately 11% to 12% incremental revenue or approximately $15 million.

Growing to a range of 16% to 18% of future projected revenues by 2025.

As you look at adjusted EBITDA outlined in our release for 2021 depreciation and amortization expense was approximately $27 million.

Lithia expected increases associated with <unk> path in 2022, the level of depreciation and amortization expense is expected to increase to approximately $34 million.

We project adjusted EBITDA for 'twenty, two to increase approximately 24% over the $148 5 million reported for 2021 .

So in summary, as we look at 'twenty. Two we are projecting continued strong performance of our core business further enhanced by the impact of Mark Turner.

Revenue growth will be in a range of 19% to 21% over the $1 billion $104 9 million reported for 2021 .

The full year effective tax rate for 2022 is expected at approximately 25%.

And of course, this can be impacted either up or down by a number of unpredictable factors.

The fully diluted weighted average share count is projected within a range of 53 to $53 5 million shares for 2022 .

Compared with the adjusted dollars 66 per share reported in 'twenty 'twenty. One we expect GAAP reported earnings per share in 'twenty, two to grow 14% to 16% or within a range of $1 89 to $1 93 per share.

With the expected earnings contribution from <unk> past adjusted to eliminate first year transaction and integration costs adjusted earnings per share in 2022 is expected to grow within a range of 20% to 22%.

Or within a range of $1 99 to $2 <unk> per share over the adjusted $1 66 earnings per share reported for 2021 .

So with these comments I'll conclude and I'll turn it back over to Gerry.

Thank you Ware.

Given the importance of acquisitions on our growth strategy I wanted to spend a few minutes on our approach to M&A, what we accomplished over the past 12 months and our outlook for 2022.

We started 2021 with one of the strongest M&A pipelines in our recent history.

Testament to our ongoing investment in our internal team that focuses on identifying potential acquisitions along.

Along with improvements in the processes and systems that support our work in this area.

We also continue to see increasing interest in <unk> as a potential partner.

Which is both a product of the overall acceleration of M&A activity in our industries, but also our long track record of making successful acquisitions.

We've talked before on how on our earnings calls about how our performance through the early onset of the pandemic created an opportunity for us to better tell our story.

Firms now see our long track record of growth and success, the resilience of our business and our ability to perform well and continuing to invest regardless of economic conditions.

All of which lead CBS to being recognized as an acquirer of choice.

As a quick reminder of our M&A strategy, we look for acquisitions that will allow us to enter attractive and growing geographic markets.

And our presence scale and capacity in our existing markets.

Expand our service offerings to include additional services or specialties that we know our clients want and need.

And to access top talent.

For the six acquisitions that we completed during 2021 totaling $75 million in annualized revenue. Each of these deals were aligned with these strategies.

These acquisitions also demonstrate our ability to identify cultivate and pursue acquisitions that will make us a stronger company.

And adds to our longstanding record of achieving sustained growth and delivering meaningful shareholder value.

Which brings me to our most recent acquisition, which caps off a year of exciting M&A activity.

A few weeks ago, we announced the acquisition of <unk>, a leading accounting a tax firm with multiple locations and Metro New York and with offices in Philadelphia, Boca Raton in Washington D C.

This acquisition brings over 600 professionals to our team and annualized revenue of approximately $138 million.

Similar to the transactions, we completed in 2021.

Mark span it aligns towards strategic goals around expanding our presence in attractive markets.

Strengthening our service offerings and adding valuable talent.

One of the many reasons that Steve has appealed to the marks pennant team as the unmatched depth of expertise and breadth of services that <unk> offers.

And that marks patents can now bring to their clients.

Further marks panic team recognizes our commitment to continuing to invest in technologies tools products and services that will be necessary to bring differentiated value to our clients.

While at the same time strengthening and developing our outstanding team.

Finally, an acquisition this size always raises questions around integration.

Over the years, we've made substantial investments to continue to improve our approach and processes. In this area. We recognize that the integration experience is critically important to welcoming teams to <unk>.

And to realizing the desired value from acquisitions.

I am confident that we've committed the resources and capacity to successfully integrate and onboard a firm with the size and complexity marks panels.

And similar sized firms in the future.

We've already made important progress in the short time with <unk> and we look forward to accelerating these efforts at the end of the traditional busy season. This spring.

Our acquisition of <unk> payment was a great way to begin the new year and speaks to our prospects for the future.

Our M&A pipeline remains very strong and we are constantly speaking with new prospects.

We have the financial capacity to remain aggressive in pursuing acquisitions, and we look forward to sharing more information on our success in this area during future calls.

With that we will move to our Q&A.

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Our first question today comes from Chris Moore from CJS Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Hey, guys. Good morning, Thanks for taking a few questions.

Yeah. So maybe we'll start on the same store growth.

Strong seven 7% in fiscal 'twenty, one when you look at the the 19% to 21% guide for 'twenty two.

Kind of what what are you embedding in there on the same store growth side and the relative contribution between financial services and <unk>.

And a and B and I kind of maybe you could talk to that obviously was higher same store growth was higher from financial services 21. So.

Maybe we just start with kind.

Kind of what what the same store growth is embedded in that and they and the guide.

Hey, Chris It's Jerry Good morning, Hey, let me I'm going to I'm going to step back a little bit and give a little bit of perspective on our guidance and then delve into the question a little bit deeper.

We purposely set out when we're gave his comments, we purposely set out and we look at it by the way in this way is we're excluding marks <unk> first exclude marks payments. So if you look at our total revenue growth in our guidance for next year.

About six five to eight 5%.

As we typically do we look at that at about half organic and half acquired right. So while there is no specific new acquisitions and we've got the wraparound impact of those deals that we did last year. We also look to increase our margin year over year by 25% to 50 bps basis points and.

Within that guidance, we are actually over exceeding the 50 basis point margin improvement now you put on top of that so that would be kind of ongoing operations. You then layer on top of that marks panels, which is approximately $138 million in top line growth, but we will have as you would expect nominal.

The impact on our earnings next year as a result of the normal expenses associated with the onetime.

One time expenses associated with Onboarding and integrating that unit.

That's how we get the year over year guidance that we're providing specifically as between.

Financial services and.

And benefits and insurance, we would expect.

<unk> organic growth proportionate relatively proportionate to what you saw this year, so again strong organic growth within the financial services side.

Strong contribution from both our core services are in our advisory services and the same thing on the benefits and insurance side nice organic growth year over year and what we're really encouraged by when we look at the benefits and insurance side.

Is the return on the investments and now the growth that we're seeing from those investments that we've been making in the producer team. So.

Pleased with the results that we saw last year I am very encouraged by the momentum that we have going into this year and really optimistic about.

How the business can perform at a 22 as well.

Got it very helpful.

So mark spent talking about $138 million contribution this year I'm, just trying to get a sense of kind of the cross serving cadence does it normally take.

<unk>.

A year or so.

Meaningful cross serving to happen is there some low low hanging fruit.

Could be could happen in 'twenty two is that incremental to what you are the 138 or is that is that already kind of incorporated in there.

Chris any any cross serving that would occur in March payments would be incremental to the 138 with that said.

We announced that transaction I think on January six they are just beginning and now they are full into their busy season, we typically.

We're not typically certainly in this instance, what we will do is really not.

Not overly burden them with a lot of.

Learning around <unk> and all the other services that they can bring their clients will begin those discussions promptly after the busy season. So kind of mid may early June and be working on that certainly for the remainder of the year with that said I don't expect that.

Those things don't typically happen immediately although we have had transactions, where we do have pretty pretty significant cross serving opportunities ride the blocks, but we don't count on that.

Got it.

Last one from me just government healthcare services, you kind of walk through the reasons why low single digit growth in 'twenty one.

Yes.

Trying to understand are you looking for better than that in 'twenty. Two I know onsite helps are you on site.

More and more of these days just kind of.

Kind of a sense in terms of what youre seeing on the on the growth on that side.

Yes, remember one of the reasons, we didn't see stronger growth was that we actually were awarded actually we were awarded two contracts, but what is really significant federal contract. We were awarded it there is an appeal process. They pulled their contract back we don't know if it will come back or not so so we would have seen stronger growth even than in <unk>.

One on the government health care business, but for a couple of pretty unique situations with that said, it's difficult to predict what the government is going to do as far as bringing people back into the offices in certain states and in certain areas, we are back and fully.

<unk> side by side with our our government.

Partners on the other side of those transactions in other cases, we're not we've really kind of stop trying to predict when that will fully happen. Although yes to answer. Your question, we are expecting stronger growth year over year than we experienced last year.

Got it I appreciate it I'll jump back in line.

And our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Please go ahead with your question.

Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions.

First one I had was just on recruiting and sourcing talent in the current environment seems like across the professional services space.

That's top of mind for a lot of management teams. So I'm curious.

How that's going how adding talent in a tight labor market is impacting your outlook for this year and beyond and then also kind.

Tangentially related to that is there is difficulty or any difficulty in sourcing talent or adding adding new employees.

Packed how you think about the attractiveness of acquiring <unk>.

Assets or acquiring talent.

Yes.

Yes, Thank you Andrew listen I think.

Across the country certainly within our industry.

There are.

It is a very competitive labor market and we're we're not immune to that rate. We're seeing the same thing. So I do think we provide some.

Compelling advantages over many others in our industry.

And we're working on pulling a bunch a lot of levers.

To be as competitive as we can in that environment as far as recruiting is concerned.

Had.

A considerable amount of success.

<unk>.

Continuing to recruit talent across CBS I will tell you. The one thing most recently that we've really.

Really pleased with the results of is the the work that we're doing through our digital outreach program.

Proactive.

<unk> out.

Digitally to prospects and helping them find us and helping them learn more about us and we see some real success in some areas, where we've seen some attrition there and replacing talent with that said.

The labor market is in fact.

Like I said very competitive we are working.

Proactively.

<unk> and timing of wage increases.

Agile in our work environment.

Both as to where they work and how they work.

I think one of our competitive advantages is the quality of the work that we are able to provide our associates as a result of our scale. So I think the.

The type of work that they do.

Here I think is oftentimes more interesting and certainly many of the smaller.

<unk> that we face off against and then always right. We talk a lot about our culture 93, Best place 93 Awards for Best Places to work last year.

Very proud of our culture, and we think thats component as well so while we're not immune we're going to continue to.

To pull a lot of levers to be as attractive as we can into the workforce. That's out there. The second question was as it relates to acquisitions.

Your question was does it change our view as to how we look at things I will tell you. We're always looking at culture within those organizations. So we look at turnover there as well and if we were to see an organization with a high degree of turnover that would certainly be a.

A note of caution for us and we would delve deeper into that but the firms that we've acquired that have joined us have.

Our outstanding organizations with strong cultures again facing the same kind of competitive labor shortages.

That everyone else is but one of the kind of compelling Val.

Values at CBS brings is our approach around <unk>.

Sourcing talent, and particularly our national recruiting offices and the success that we've had there both on campus with lateral hires.

And the other thing I would say that allows us to be.

Sure.

We're competitive in that area is because of our size and scale and our systems. We can share work from amount among office is really around the country. So we're one office might be particularly.

<unk> in a particular area oftentimes, we have availability to some other office. So we're able to share share resources across the country and that certainly helps as well.

Makes sense, that's really helpful. Thank you and then for my follow up you touched on.

Women health care consulting bit, but but maybe to speak.

To another piece of our financial services and kind of the outlook for 'twenty two organically.

Obviously M&A related activity was really strong in 2021.

Is that something that youre expecting to slow down just given given the difficult comps or how are you thinking about advisor.

Advisory solutions in 2022, given all those dynamics. Thank you.

So there were a number of questions there Andrew Let me, let me make sure I understand so I'm going to.

If I heard you correct at the end Youre, saying within all of the growth that we experienced within financial services. What is our view on advisory services for 2022.

Yes, sorry, I'm, just asking obviously M&A and private equity investments.

There were elevated last year and so I'm just wondering as you're looking ahead to organic growth within project based work and advisory solutions in particular.

How youre, how youre thinking about those difficult comps and kind of the persistence of that kind of investment cycle or mega cycle within private equity investments.

Yes.

Next year, yes.

That's a great question, because we look at that very carefully look what I will say is we're headed we're off to a really strong start. This year. So we had a very favorable climate for transaction type work last year that obviously bolstered our organic growth and contributed significantly to the results that we posted we're seeing.

<unk>.

Wrong demand continue across the board really for our advisory and transaction types of services.

Typically have about.

90 to 120 day visibility.

At best into that area. So so that's what we're really commenting on now beyond that.

So.

We really don't know right.

So long as the business climate remains favorable.

There'll be a high demand for those types of services and we will continue to enjoy success. There if they slow if it flows and obviously that area will slow a little bit. So we are somewhat more.

Vulnerable to.

The outlook of the business climate and the amount of transaction work certainly as it relates to those advisory services, but but even when they slow we typically do pretty well it's just.

Obviously with slower growth.

Yes.

Makes sense. Thank you.

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Our next question comes from Marc Riddick from Sidoti <unk> Company. Please go ahead with your question.

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Hi, good morning.

So I wanted to touch briefly on the.

As far as the.

Tax season generally is there anything that we should be thinking about is true.

Year over year timing differences complexity rules things like that.

It could be either helpful Armful or something we should be thinking about as far as the type of where you're going to be doing for the for the peak season.

Yes, Mark interesting question, and particularly insightful in light of what we experienced in 2020, right where the when the pandemic hit in that season was pushed off and we had.

Some anomalies as to how we might look at that relative to our typical cycle I would tell you that.

Unless something dramatic changes.

In the regulatory environment.

We would expect that this season would look more like pre pandemic. So more like the seasons that we saw prior to 2020. So a typical busy season kind of through April 15th and then obviously into the fall we have plenty of work to do between those two periods of time, but put a more a more traditional cycle.

Okay, Great and then one additional follow up you kind of touched on some of the digital outreach as far as from a recruiting standpoint, but one of the other areas.

One of the things that took place during the pandemic that seems to be benefiting you now is the significant amount of digital outreach that took place during the pandemic I was wondering if you could spend a little time talking about that a little bit and I'm not sure. If that's something that's quantifiable as to the benefits to your organic growth that you saw this year and what you think.

Might see going forward I was wondering if you wanted to talk about that a little bit and how that helps.

Or what your experiences and views are as to the benefits of that timeframe.

Yes. Thank you Mark we look at that and some of the lessons that we learned through the pandemic and the question came up earlier on cross here I mean, what we've learned particularly with some of our mid market clients. So our larger clients. We're really proactive account planning we're in front of them. All the time, we have teams assigned to them, but as the clients get smaller.

Sometimes it's hard to get to them right and where we really saw a significant opportunity and growth in and reception into the communities with through our digital outreach really beginning in the pandemic our clients.

Obviously, we are facing a very challenging business climate, we have solutions for them.

We werent able to pick up the phone all the time, we are getting from those clients. We reached out to them digitally and have really really tremendous success. So we've built on that.

Throughout 2021, we will continue to build on that into 2022, we saw a significant incremental revenue through those efforts.

Last year in 2021, and we would expect for that to continue so that's a great observation and one that we're very focused on and very encouraged by the results that we're seeing.

Thanks, and thank you very much.

Youre welcome.

And ladies and gentlemen, with that we will be concluding today's question and answer session I'd like to turn the floor back over to Jerry <unk> for any closing remarks.

Yes. Thank you before we wrap up today I want to thank our shareholders and analysts as we always do for.

And for your continued support as a reminder, there are additional investor relations resources available on our website.

Including a recording of the virtual Investor day presentation that we hosted in the fall of last year and a recording of our discussion last month on our M&A strategy and our recent acquisitions, including <unk> panic.

I also want to take this opportunity to express my sincere gratitude to our team.

We are now over 6000 professionals strong nationwide.

And I could not be more proud of what this team has accomplished over the past couple of years.

At our core we're a people business.

And the results that we discuss today.

The direct outcome of the hard work and dedication of each of our team members.

We couldnt thank you more.

As we look forward to 2022, we have a great deal of momentum to propel us to even greater heights.

We're excited about the transaction, we're seeing within our businesses as well as our very strong pipeline of increasingly larger M&A opportunities.

Most importantly, our strong financial position provides us with the ability to capitalize on these opportunities.

While continuing to invest in the areas of our business that will bring differentiated value to our clients our team members and our shareholders.

With that we'll conclude our comp our comments.

And enjoy your day.

Ladies and gentlemen, with that we'll conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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Good morning, everyone and welcome to D. C. This fourth quarter and full year 2021 results conference call.

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Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us for the <unk> fourth quarter and full year 2021 results conference call in connection with this call today's press release and quarterly presentation have been posted to the Investor Relations page of our website <unk> Dot com.

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Joining us for today's call are Jerry Briscoe, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ware Grove, Chief Financial Officer, I will now turn the call over to Jerry for his opening remarks Jerry.

Thank you Laurie.

We are proud to share our fourth quarter and full year results for 2021, and our outlook for this year.

For nearly every measurable perspective, 2021 was at or near our strongest performance in recent history.

Most notably for the full year total revenue was up 14, 6% organic revenue grew seven 7% adjusted earnings per share was up 16, 9%, our adjusted EBITDA improved 12, 4%.

Our stock price increased 47%.

And with the addition of the marked panic announced in early January of this year, we made seven acquisitions, adding over $200 million in annualized revenue.

And our strong revenue growth for the first nine months of the year continued into the fourth quarter, where our total revenue was up 15% and our organic revenue grew 494%.

Our full year results are the direct outcome of the strategic direction that we established for the business over five years ago.

The investments that we've made to support that strategy the fundamental attributes of our business and the commitment and character of our over 6000 team members across CBS .

And it's important to note our full year growth came from nearly every major service line across the business.

Our results demonstrate important alignment and focus among our team.

And our commitment to sustained growth and our success in 2021 provides important momentum for the coming year.

Within our financial services group demand for our central accounting and tax services remained strong throughout 2021.

Our clients rely on us for these services to conduct their businesses and they turn to us to provide them regardless of the business climate.

An important difference in 2021 versus the prior year.

With a significant increase in demand that we experienced for our advisory services.

Much of which are project based and more discretionary.

We saw a decline for those services in the first half of 2020 as businesses navigate the uncertainty of the pandemic.

Demand for those services began to return in the second half of 2020 and that trend continued and gained momentum throughout 2021.

We also benefited from the multiyear investments that we've been making to improve our processes systems tools support and training that better equip our teams to improve pricing and profitability on our client engagements.

We saw the impact of these investments in 2021 is.

As more consistent and disciplined approach to pricing helped to fuel growth across many of our service lines.

One area, where we experienced somewhat slower growth than in prior years was our government healthcare consulting business, where the rate of growth was in the low single digits.

The slower rate of growth in this business was caused by a number of factors, including the loss of a large federal contract that we were awarded.

But we then subsequently canceled and the number of states that had not yet fully reopened following the omicron variance Serge.

While we've proven to be quite effective when working remotely in this area being present on site often improves productivity and enables us to be more proactive in identifying opportunities to better serve our government clients.

Now turning to our benefits and insurance Division, we experienced strong growth and performance across nearly every major service line payroll being the one exception as I will explain in a moment.

I wanted to start with our employee benefits business, where we experienced our strongest rate of organic growth in six years.

Client retention rates of over 90% and they improved even further last year.

Further our producer count a key growth indicator for this business is also up by 15% over the prior year with the new hires added through 2021.

Our property and casualty insurance business also experienced high client retention rates and strong production in 2021 the.

The commercial side of the business continues to perform well and improved demand for our program services lines bolstered our performance in this area.

Similar to our employee benefits business. We're also investing in standardizing, our sales management processes and increasing the number of producers within our P&C business.

The retirement and investment solutions business experienced similar trends with strong production contributing to growth.

While favorable market conditions aided the defined contribution investment strategies components of this business.

Now turning to payroll, while we continue to experience strong demand for our payroll platform targeting larger clients with more complex payroll needs the impact of the pandemic on our legacy payroll platform, which generally serves our small business clients dampened our overall performance within this service line in 2021.

Overall as I mentioned in my opening remarks, we're exceptionally pleased with the outstanding performance of the business throughout 2021.

The investments to accelerate growth that we've made in the business, our strong balance sheet and outlook for 2022.

We will once again be providing financial guidance for the year.

Similar to last year I want to caution that.

That we do expect more volatility in our financial results from quarter to quarter than we've historically experienced.

Due in part to the significant number of acquisitions completed in the past 12 months.

As a result, we advise against comparing any given quarter to the same period in the prior year.

With this I will turn it over to Ware Grove, our Chief financial Officer to provide more specific details on our financial performance for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2021.

Thank you Jerry and good morning, everyone let.

Let me take a few minutes to go through the highlights of our fourth quarter and full year results for 2021.

And also comment on our outlook and guidance for 2022 .

The strong revenue growth, we reported through third quarter of 'twenty, one continued through the fourth quarter.

With fourth quarter total revenue up 15% compared with fourth quarter, a year ago same unit revenue grew by nine 4% in the fourth quarter.

For the full year total revenue grew by 14, 6% with same unit revenue up seven 7% for the full year.

As we reported earlier in 2021, eliminating the second quarter net impact of the $35 million legal settlement with <unk> and eliminating the $6 $3 million gain on sale of empty donahoe, the wholesale insurance brokerage business that was divested in the second quarter.

<unk> earnings per share adjusted for these items was $1 66 per share for the full year up 16, 9% from the $1 42 reported a year ago.

We will continue to say that it is our goal to achieve margin improvement of 20 to 50 basis points a year or more.

In 2021, however, there were unique year over year COVID-19 influence patterns to expenses.

In addition, the second half of the year and particularly the fourth quarter was impacted by the seasonal nature of the midyear acquisitions. We made during 2021 combined with a higher level of related acquisition fees and legal expenses.

The acquisition activity that occurred in 2021 will position us for strong growth in 2022.

The full year impact expected in 'twenty, two will be very accretive and this will help fuel our growth in 2022.

However, with the seasonal nature of these financial services businesses that were acquired during mid year 'twenty. One this caused a larger fourth quarter loss.

Beginning mid year of 'twenty. One we also talked about the expected second half normalization of expenses, such as health care benefits.

<unk> Entertainment and marketing expenses that would present headwinds in the second half of 'twenty one when.

In comparison with 2020 these expenses in 'twenty, one had a negative impact in.

In 2022. These expenses are expected to level out at close to pre pandemic levels with the exception of travel and entertainment expense, where our migration to virtual and digital communications with clients and prospects is expected to result in a future travel entertainment expense at a problem.

At approximately 50% to 60% of pre pandemic levels.

Within financial services total revenue grew by 18, 7% in the fourth quarter and grew by 16, 6% for the full year.

Same unit revenue grew by 11, 7% in the fourth quarter and for the full year same unit revenue grew by nine 3%.

Growth was recorded across all lines of service with exceptionally strong same unit growth reported within our advisory services, which includes private equity consulting risks and advisory services valuation and others.

Within our benefits and insurance services group.

Total revenue grew by 9.0% in the fourth quarter and grew by 11, 6% for the full year.

Same unit revenue grew by five 3% in the fourth quarter and was up by four 6% for the year with.

Within benefits and insurance were happy to see positive results gained traction with our continued investment in new business producers.

I spoke earlier on the seasonal nature of the midyear 2021 acquisitions and the impact on earnings in the fourth quarter.

There is a normal seasonal pattern for these businesses to record strong first half results followed by a relatively weaker second half.

These acquisitions are performing in line with expectations and contributed five 6% to total revenue growth in the fourth quarter and added six 9% to total revenue growth for the full year of 2021 .

Cash flow and liquidity continue to be very strong during 'twenty, one we used $83 million for acquisition purposes, including earn out payments on prior acquisitions with the <unk> transaction occurring in early January of 2022, we used in <unk>.

Additional $72 5 million for a payment upon the close of that transaction.

During 2021, we used approximately $97 million to.

A total of three 8 million shares.

Depending on a number of factors, including our future acquisition pipeline.

We intend to continue to repurchase shares.

Fully diluted weighted average shares for 2021 was approximately 53 7 million shares and we expect the share count within a range of 53 to $53 5 million fully diluted shares for 2022 .

Total debt outstanding on our $400 million credit facility was $155 million at year end 2021 after.

After giving effect to the payment to close marks patents in early January the outstanding balance was approximately $228 million.

As we indicated during our investor call on January 12.

Unutilized borrowing capacity on our credit facility was approximately $160 million at that time with leverage measured against adjusted EBITDA at approximately one five times.

This leaves sufficient unused capacity to enable us to continue with acquisition activities and conduct future share repurchases.

Looking forward estimated future payments for earn outs, including future payments estimated for marks path are $24 $5 million in 2000 $20 million to $40 million in 'twenty, 'twenty $343 $6 million in 2024, and $23 1 million.

In 2025.

Capital spending for the full year of <unk> 21 was $9 million with $2 $5 million in the fourth quarter, we expect capital spending within a range of $10 million to $12 million.

Looking ahead to 2022 .

Performance on receivables continues to be good days sales.

Outstanding at year end 2021 was 71 days compared with 72 days the prior year.

Bad debt expense for the full year was 32 basis points of revenue compared with 46 basis points of revenue the prior year.

The effective tax rate for the full year of 2021 was 23, 8%.

But we should note that the effective tax rate can be influenced either up or down by a number of unpredictable factors.

Adjusted EBITDA was $148 5 million or 13, 4% of revenue in 2021, compared with $132 $1 million a year ago.

As we turn to 2022, there are a number of items to consider.

With annualized revenue of $75 million the acquisitions made in 2021, we will have a positive full year impact to revenue and will be accretive to earnings for the full year 2022 .

Our core financial services and benefits and insurance businesses are continuing to perform very well with improved margins expected in 2022 .

On January 10th of this year, we announced the acquisition of March Paris.

The <unk> acquisition is expected to contribute $138 million to revenue growth in 2022.

Adjusting to eliminate the impact of these first year costs. The expected earnings impact will be approximately <unk> 10 per share.

Longer term, we expect the contribution to be in the 20% to 25 per share range by 2025 once the initial earn out and integration activities are fully addressed.

In 2022, we expect the adjusted EBITDA contribution from ARX <unk>. Similarly, adjusted to eliminate first year integration cost at approximately 11% to 12% incremental revenue or approximately $15 million.

Growing to a range of 16% to 18% of future projected revenues by 2025.

As you look at our adjusted EBITDA outlined in our release for 2021 depreciation and amortization expense was approximately $27 million.

With the expected increases associated with Mark's peanuts in 2022, the level of depreciation and amortization expense is expected to increase to approximately $34 million.

We project adjusted EBITDA for 'twenty, two to increase approximately 24% over the $148 $5 million reported for 2021.

So in summary, as we look at 'twenty. Two we are projecting continued strong performance of our core business further enhanced by the impact of Mark's Pat.

Revenue growth will be in a range of 19% to 21% over the $1 billion $104 9 million reported for 2021 .

The full year effective tax rate for 2022 is expected at approximately 25%.

And of course, this can be impacted either up or down by a number of unpredictable factors.

The fully diluted weighted average share count is projected within a range of 53 to $53 5 million shares for 2022 .

With the expected earnings contribution from <unk> Pant us adjusted to eliminate first year transaction and integration costs adjusted earnings per share in 2022 is expected to grow within a range of 20% to 22%.

Or within a range of $1 99 to <unk> <unk> per share over the adjusted $1 66 earnings per share reported for 2021 .

So with these comments I'll conclude and I'll turn it back over to Gerry.

Thank you Ware.

Given the importance of acquisitions on our growth strategy I wanted to spend a few minutes on our approach to M&A, what we accomplished over the past 12 months and our outlook for 2022.

We started 2021 with one of the strongest M&A pipelines in our recent history.

Testament to our ongoing investment in our internal team that focuses on identifying potential acquisitions, along with improvements in the processes and systems that support our work in this area.

We also continue to see increasing interest in <unk> as a potential partner.

Which is both a product of the overall acceleration of M&A activity in our industries, but also our long track record of making successful acquisitions.

We've talked before on how on our earnings calls about how our performance through the early onset of the pandemic created an opportunity for us to better tell our story.

Firms now see our long track record of growth and success, the resilience of our business and our ability to perform well and continuing to invest regardless of economic conditions.

All of which lead CBS to being recognized as an acquirer of choice.

As a quick reminder of our M&A strategy, we look for acquisitions that will allow us to enter attractive and growing geographic markets.

<unk>, our presence scale and capacity in our existing markets.

Expand our service offerings to include additional services or specialties that we know our clients want and need.

And to access top talent.

For the six acquisitions that we completed during 2021 totaling $75 million in annualized revenue. Each of these deals were aligned with these strategies.

These acquisitions also demonstrate our ability to identify cultivate and pursue acquisitions that will make us a stronger company.

And adds to our longstanding record of achieving sustained growth and delivering meaningful shareholder value.

Which brings me to our most recent acquisition, which caps off a year of exciting M&A activity.

A few weeks ago, we announced the acquisition of Mark Panic, a leading accounting attacks firm with multiple locations and Metro New York and with offices in Philadelphia, Boca Raton in Washington DC.

This acquisition brings over 600 professionals to our team and annualized revenue of approximately $138 million.

Similar to the transactions, we completed in 2021.

<unk> expanded alliance towards strategic goals around expanding our presence in attractive markets.

Strengthening our service offerings and adding valuable talent.

One of the many reasons that Steve has appealed to the <unk> team as the unmatched depth of expertise and breadth of services that <unk> offers and.

And that marks patents can now bring to their clients.

Further marks panted team recognizes our commitment to continuing to invest in technologies tools products and services that will be necessary to bring differentiated value to our clients.

While at the same time strengthening and developing our outstanding team.

Finally, an acquisition this size always raises questions around integration.

Over the years, we've made substantial investments to continue to improve our approach and processes in this area.

We recognize that the integration experience is critically important to welcoming teams to see this.

And to realizing the desired value from acquisitions.

I am confident that we've committed the resources and capacity to successfully integrate and onboard a firm with the size and complexity bark Spanish.

And similar sized firms in the future.

We've already made important progress in the short time with Mark Panic, and we look forward to accelerating these efforts at the end of the traditional busy season. This spring.

Our acquisition of <unk> was a great way to begin the new year and speaks to our prospects for the future.

Our M&A pipeline remains very strong and we are constantly speaking with new prospects.

We have the financial capacity to remain aggressive in pursuing acquisitions, and we look forward to sharing more information on our success in this area during future calls.

With that we will move to our Q&A.

Ladies and gentlemen at this time, we'll begin the question and answer session.

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Our first question today comes from Chris Moore from CJS Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Hey, guys. Good morning, Thanks for taking a few questions.

Yes, so maybe we'll start on the same store growth so.

Strong seven 7% in fiscal 'twenty, one when you look at the 19% to 21% guide for 'twenty two.

What are you embedding in there on the same store growth side and the relative contribution between financial services.

And P&I kind of maybe you could talk to that obviously was higher same store growth was higher from financial services 21. So.

Maybe we just start with kind.

Kind of what the same store growth is embedded in that in the in the guide.

Hey, Chris It's Jerry Good morning, Hey, let me I'm going to I'm going to step back a little bit and give a little bit of perspective on our guidance.

Delve into the question a little bit deeper.

We purposely set out when we're gave his comments, we purposely set out and we look at it by the way in this way is we're excluding marks <unk> first exclude March payments. So if you look at our total revenue growth in our guidance for next year.

About six five to eight 5%.

The impact on our earnings next year as a result of the normal expenses associated with.

One time expenses associated with Onboarding and integrating that unit.

That's how we get the year over year guidance that we're providing specifically as between.

Financial services and.

And benefits and insurance, we would expect.

Continued organic growth proportionate relatively proportionate to what you saw this year, so again strong organic growth within the financial services side.

Strong contribution from both our core services and our advisory services and the same thing on the benefits and insurance side.

Nice organic growth year over year, and what we're really encouraged by when we look at the benefits and insurance side.

Is the return on the investments and now the growth that we're seeing from those investments that we've been making in the producer team. So.

Really pleased with the results that we saw last year I am very encouraged by the momentum that we have going into this year and really optimistic about.

How the business can perform at a 22 as well.

Got it very helpful.

So mark spent talking about $138 million contribution this year I'm, just trying to get a sense of kind of the cross serving cadence does it normally take.

Sure.

A year or so.

Meaningful cross serving to happen is there some low hanging fruit.

Could be.

What happened in 2002 is that incremental to what you are the 138 is that is that already kind of incorporated in there.

No Chris any any cross serving that would occur in Mark's parents would be incremental to the $1 38 with that said.

We announced that transaction I think on January six.

We are just beginning and now they are full into their busy season, we typically.

Not typically certainly in this instance, what we will do is really not.

Not overly burden them with a lot of.

Those things don't typically happen immediately although we have had transactions, where we do have pretty pretty significant cross serving opportunities right. The blocks, but we don't count on that.

Got it.

Last one from me just.

Government healthcare services, you kind of walk through the reasons why low single digit growth in 'twenty, one I guess.

Im trying to understand are you looking for better than that in 'twenty, two I know onsite helps our U onsite.

More and more of these days just kind of.

Kind of a sense in terms of what youre seeing on the on the growth on that side.

Yes, remember one of the reasons, we didn't see stronger growth was that we actually were awarded actually we were awarded two contracts, but one really significant federal contract. We were awarded it there is an appeal process. They pulled their contract back we don't know if it will come back or not so so we would have seen stronger growth even then.

'twenty one on the government healthcare business, but for a couple of pretty unique situations with that said, it's difficult to predict what the government is going to do as far as bringing people back into the offices in certain states and in certain areas, we are back and fully.

Working side by side with our our government.

Partners on the other side of those transactions in other cases, we're not we've really kind of stopped trying to predict when that will fully happen. Although yes to answer. Your question, we are expecting stronger growth year over year than we experienced last year.

Got it I appreciate it I'll jump back in line.

And our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Please go ahead with your question.

Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions.

First one I had was just on recruiting and sourcing talent in the current environment seems like across the professional services space.

Top of mind for a lot of management teams. So I'm curious.

How thats going how adding talent in a tight labor market is impacting your outlook for this year and beyond and then I'll.

Also kind of tangentially related to that is there is difficulty or any difficulty in sourcing talent or adding adding new employees impact.

Impact how you think about the attractiveness of acquiring.

Assets or acquiring talent.

Thanks.

Yes, Thank you Andrew listen I think.

Across the country certainly within our industry.

There are.

It is a very.

<unk> labor market and we're we're not immune to that rate. We're seeing the same thing. So I do think we provide some.

Compelling advantages over many others in our industry.

And we're working on pulling a bunch a lot of levers.

<unk>.

To be as competitive as we can in that environment as far as recruiting is concerned.

We've had.

A considerable amount of success.

In.

<unk> continued to recruit talent across CBS I will tell you. The one thing most recently that we've really.

Really pleased with the results of is the the work that we're doing through our digital outreach program.

Being proactive reaching.

<unk> out.

The labor market is in fact.

Like I said very competitive we are working.

Proactively.

<unk> and timing of wage increases.

Agile in our work environment.

Both as to where they work and how they work.

I think one of our competitive advantages is the quality of the work that we are able to provide our associates as a result of our scale. So I think the type of work that they do.

Here I think is oftentimes more interesting and certainly many of the smaller.

<unk> that we face off against and then always right. We talk a lot about our culture 93, Best place 93 Awards for Best Places to work last year.

Very proud of our culture, and we think thats component as well so while we're not immune we're going to continue to.

To put a lot of levers to be as attractive as we can into the workforce. That's out there. The second question was as it relates to acquisitions.

A note of caution for us and we would delve deeper into that but the firms that we've acquired that have joined us have.

Our outstanding organizations with strong cultures again facing the same kind of competitive labor shortages.

That everyone else is but one of the kind of compelling.

Values at CBS brings is our approach around <unk>.

Sourcing talent, and particularly our national recruiting offices and the success that we've had there both on campus with lateral hires.

And the other thing I would say that allows us to be.

Sure.

More competitive in that area is because of our size and scale and our systems. We can share work from amount among office is really around the country. So we're one office might be particularly.

<unk> in a particular area oftentimes, we have availability to some other office. So we're able to share share resources across the country and that certainly helps as well.

Makes sense, that's really helpful. Thank you and then for my follow up you touched on.

Women health care consulting bit, but but maybe to speak.

To another piece of pie.

<unk> services and kind of the outlook for 'twenty two organically.

Obviously M&A related activity was really strong in 2021.

Is that something that youre expecting to slow down just given given the difficult comps or how are you thinking about.

Advisory solutions in 2022, given all those dynamics. Thank you.

Okay.

There are a number of questions. There, let me make sure I understand so I'm going to if.

If I heard you correct at the end, you're saying within all of the growth that we experienced within financial services. What is our view on advisory services for 2022.

Yes, sorry, I'm, just asking obviously M&A and private equity investments.

Were elevated last year and so I'm just wondering as you're looking ahead to organic growth within project based work and advisory solutions in particular.

How youre, how youre thinking about those difficult comps and kind of the persistence of that kind of investment cycle or mega cycle within private equity investments.

Yes.

Next year, yes.

Yes, that's a great question, because we look at that very carefully look what I will say is we're headed we're off to a really strong start. This year. So we had a very favorable climate for transaction type work last year that obviously bolstered our organic growth and contributed significantly to the results that we posted we're seeing.

<unk>.

Strong demand continue across the board really for our advisory and transaction types of services.

We typically have about.

90 to 120 day visibility.

At best into that area. So that's what we're really commenting on now beyond that.

So.

We really don't know right so long as the business climate remains favorable.

There'll be a high demand for those types of services and we will.

Continue to enjoy success there if they slow if it flows and obviously that area will slow a little bit. So we are somewhat more.

Vulnerable to.

The outlook of the business climate and the amount of transaction work certainly as it relates to those advisory services, but but even when they slow we typically do pretty well it's just.

It obviously would slow our growth a little bit.

Yeah.

Makes sense. Thank you.

Once again, if you would like to ask a question. Please press star and then one to one.

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Our next question comes from Marc Riddick from Sidoti <unk> Company. Please go ahead with your question.

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Hi, good morning.

So I wanted to touch briefly on the.

As far as the.

Tax season generally is there anything that we should be thinking about is true.

Year over year timing differences complexity rules things like that.

Could be either helpful Armful or something we should be thinking about as far as the type of what are you going to be doing.

But the key season.

Yes, Mark interesting question and.

Particularly insightful in light of what we experienced in 2020, right, where the when the pandemic hit in that season was pushed off and we had.

Some anomalies asked.

How we might look at that relative to our typical cycle I would tell you that.

Unless something dramatic changes.

And the regulatory environment.

Okay, Great and then one additional follow up you kind of touched on some of the digital outreach as far as from a recruiting standpoint, but one of the other areas.

Talking about that a little bit and I'm not sure. If that's something that's quantifiable as to the benefits to your organic growth that you saw this year and what you think you might see going forward I was wondering if you wanted to talk about that a little bit and how that helps.

Or what your experiences and views are as to the benefits from that timeframe.

Yes. Thank you Mark we look at that and some of the lessons that we learned through the pandemic and the question came up earlier on Cross survey, what we've learned particularly with some of our mid market clients. So our larger clients. We're really proactive account planning we're in front of them. All the time, we have teams assigned to them, but as the clients get smaller.

Sometimes it's hard to get to them right and where we really saw a significant opportunity and growth in and reception into the communities was through our digital outreach really beginning in the pandemic our clients.

Obviously, we are facing a very challenging business climate, we have solutions for them.

We werent able to pick up the phone all the time, we are getting from those clients, we reached out to them digitally.

And had really really tremendous success. So we built on that.

Kind of throughout 2021, we will continue to build on that into 2022, we saw a significant incremental revenue through those efforts.

Last year in 2021, and we would expect for that to continue so that's a great observation and one that we're very focused on and very encouraged by the results that we're seeing.

Thanks, Alan Thank you very much.

Youre welcome.

And ladies and gentlemen, with that we will be concluding today's question and answer session I'd like to turn the floor back over to Jerry <unk> for any closing remarks.

Yes. Thank you before we wrap up today I want to thank our shareholders and analysts as we always do.

And for your continued support as a reminder, there are additional investor relations resources available on our website.

Including a recording of the virtual Investor day presentation that we hosted in the fall of last year and a recording of our discussion last month in our M&A strategy and our recent acquisitions, including <unk> panel.

I also want to take this opportunity to express my sincere gratitude to our team.

We are now over 6000 professionals strong nationwide.

And I could not be more proud of what this team has accomplished over the past couple of years.

At our core we're people business.

And the results that we discuss today.

The direct outcome of the hard work and dedication of each of our team members.

We couldnt thank you more.

As we look forward to 2022, we have a great deal momentum to propel us to even greater heights.

We're excited about the transaction, we're seeing within our businesses as well as our very strong pipeline of increasingly larger M&A opportunities.

Most importantly, our strong financial position provides us with the ability to capitalize on these opportunities.

While continuing to invest in the areas of our business that will bring differentiated value to our clients our team members and our shareholders.

With that we'll conclude our comp our comments.

And enjoy your day.

Ladies and gentlemen, with that we'll conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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