Q4 2021 Comscore Inc Earnings Call

Good day and thank you for standing by welcome to the Comscore fourth quarter 2021 financial results Conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation. There will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that.

Today's conference is being recorded to ask a question during the session you will need to press star one on your telephone if you require any further assistance. Please press stars zero I would now like to hand, the conference over to your host for today John Tinker. Please go ahead.

[noise] begin our prepared remarks, I'd like light remind all of you. The following discussion contains forward looking statements. These forward looking statements and could comments at a plans expectations and prospects and not based on I view as of today February 28th 2022.

Alright shall results in future periods may differ maternity from those county expected because of a number of risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties include those outlined in our 10-K 10-Q and other filings with the S. E C. But you can find on our website or www SEC Dot Gov, we disclaim any Judy Oh obligation to update a forward looking star.

Apings to reflect in your information after today's call.

We will be discussing non-GAAP measures doing this call for which we have provided reconciliations in today's press releases and on our website I'd know liked to call in to turn the call over to calm schools, Chief Executive Officer, Bill Levek Bill. Thank you John and thank you everyone for joining us today with me or John Carpenter, our chief financial.

Officer and other members of our management team I'm proud to report to you that Comscore had another quarter of growth in the fourth quarter are rubbing over salts in the quarter represent our highest year over year growth since 2018 or.

Our execution in the second half of the year is evidence that we've turned the corner. It Comscore and is one of the reasons I'm. So excited about 2022 cents.

Secondly, we have rework the way we run our business at our core Comscore measures content and ads and enables the planning and activation of media in a privacy for word way, we built one of the largest media composition databases, enabling us to.

Deliver and optimize outcomes across all screens television connected Tvs digital multiple and movies.

John will take you through this in more detail, but we have simplified the business down to two core focus points cross platform solutions and digital ads solutions.

As Comscore, we are laser focused on the measurement of content and ads and the outcomes that we deliver for our clients.

A catalyst for our growth has been that continued rollout and acceleration of our product offerings, particularly or cookie free products within our add solutions group along with the launch of Comscore everywhere and Comscore campaign ratings, which all referred to a C. C. R.

I'd like to do a bit of a deeper dive in the Comscore campaign ratings as one example to illustrate how we're winning through our commitment to innovation and the future of the industry that we serve.

Comscore campaign ratings has gained a lot of momentum measuring the AD campaigns during the Olympics, and superbowl and providing insights into their performance that weren't available until now. Additionally.

Additionally, the recent announcement regarding Comscore has joined offering with double verify is big news for brands agencies and sellers of media. We are developing a best in class add verification and cross platform audience and measurements solution.

To provide the most comprehensive and innovative cross platform Admeasurement today.

This is further proof of comscore his commitment to innovation into driving the future of media measurement in our industry.

As you can see the success, we're having in our products is the key to unlock wins across content and advertising solutions. In addition to the double verify announcement, we are proud of discovery and omnis announcement of their ongoing efforts to.

Test Comscore as new currency.

We also continue to make progress in local with our recent wins with gray and with local agencies.

We have stabilized her digital business, we acquire terribly in part to help us shore up our digital talent as well as our product offering.

This acquisition will complement are cross platform and add solutions group by integrating advanced social video insights into our client offerings across cross platform capabilities.

With our announcement earlier this year Comscore everywhere will our customers to have a holistic view on how audiences consume content and measure where they were exposed to ads across the content ecosystem.

This approach of measurement and analytics represents how advertising will be bought and sold in the future and Comscore is proud to be at the forefront this innovation.

Traditional media measurement is historically been constrained content was measured but the ads were estimated due to the limitations of purely panel based methods.

A world class media consumption data assets and data science have allowed us to turn this problem on its head.

Through our ability to measure second by second content and add consumption with audience metrics all done in a privacy for word matter.

This creates the framework to build the measurements and add an analytics solutions need it now and in the future.

It's why so many out there like double their high want the partner was comscore.

Comscore everywhere is a single song.

Cross platform currency, which builds on the success of Comscore campaign ratings. The first in the market advertising measurements solution to provide a complete view of video across T. V. C. T V and digital to agencies and brands it will combine more than <unk>.

15 years of cross platform experience powered by a massive data television footprint across C. T V digital and social to provide a common.

Comparable audience definition across media and screens.

In October we announced our partnership with Google and became the first measurement provider tinted looks liver D. Duplicate it audience measurement across Youtubes largest platforms with P C mobile and connected T V.

Which includes co viewing of the C. T V screens.

Youtube's addition to C. C. R is a game changer for brands and agencies to truly assess the incremental impact on Youtube within media plans. So much of the C. T V reach in the U S falls only at five streaming services and remember only too.

Oread supported as we have reported before.

The success that we've had with product launches like C. C. R leads us to kind of announcement, you've heard from double verify and Comscore last week, where we jointly announced the industries first cross platform at verification and audience measurements solution.

With our joint offering advertisers will be able to view D duplicated reach frequency and audience composition across T. B C. T V and mobile while ensuring the digital audiences are free from invalid traffic delivered in view into the curb.

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The ongoing currency discussion with the industry is so shown us strong advertiser demand for more accurate D. Duplicated cross platform audience measurement with the inclusion of add verification. We are excited to bring advertisers even a more differentiate it.

And superior offering.

We plan to launch the joint offering in the second quarter to select group of advertisers.

We are gaining momentum among clients and partners and it goes beyond our relationship with double verify as I mentioned earlier, we have a number of exciting developments on the partnership front for example, omni media group in discovery with some large an iconic omni clients.

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This is a terrific opportunity for Comscore his discovery, which operates food network H T. T V into discovery channel will have plenty to say about the future of measurement. We are excited to participate in this important move by discovery and omni.

Another example of our currency momentum is with Warner Media's announcement earlier. This year that we were selected to work with them an alternative currencies for National television and cross platform. We are incredibly excited about the momentum we continue to see with all of our clients.

Including in the local market place, where the adoption of our services continues to increase we've added more than 30 local AD agencies throughout the last year and over half of them occurred in the fourth quarter alone is.

As part of these deals we secured two of the nation's largest furniture retailers are using comscore ask currency.

The advancements represented by Comscore everywhere and R. C. C R product Ah, resulting in marketplace adoption I am pleased to report that one of the largest tech companies in the world utilized her CCR currency with multiple large advertisers during the superbowl.

To highlight the incremental reach that can be achieved on these platforms above and beyond that campaign that they ran during the superbowl. Similarly, when the largest holding companies is also evaluating the performance of the <unk> number of iconic advertising campaigns during both the.

The Olympics and the superbowl, each utilizing comscore currency.

Finally, the fourth quarter has always been our largest quarter is the majority of our enterprise accounts tied two year and renewals Comscore secured key enterprise renewals across local national television as well as our digital solutions.

We also added 30 full local broadcast state and stations in the quarter, including stations with N B C U Univision Entre revision Gray and Alan media.

We are now the currency and most degrees markets, who will use comscore his audience data as the primary selling currency in 95 of their 113 markets great progress by your entire team.

As we shift our focus towards 2022, you can probably tell that we have plenty of momentum and we are laser focused on driving profitable growth.

We will accomplish this by staying true to what we do best measuring content and ads and a privacy for word manner by World class data science and the assets to give you. An example of our privacy centric approach and building products and delivering insight.

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Was expanded to include you tube and you two T V. It was implicit known it through a tactless integration with Google AD data hub.

This enabled our clients to measure the impact of their AD campaigns and their entire Youtube universe, and a privacy first manner. It's also worth noting that Google made it a point in their fourth quarter call. The highlight the use of our CCR product.

Our growth will always come down on the backs of both internal progress and that as we continue to launch world class products like C. C R and predictive audience solutions as well as with partnerships like the one we just announce with double verified our ability to execute.

Quickly will unlock new client wins and allow us to take share in the markets that we plan.

Building off our second half execution and the recent acquisition of share a bully, we're turning around or digital business with Shirley we inherited an experienced and talented team that will help us lead this turnaround led by Tanya Yoki along with Tonya.

We believe Greg Dale and John Lieberman will played critical roles in our future digital offering it is important to note that Tanya and Greg played important roles. It comscore in our formative years is key executives before starting Shirley.

As always our ability to deliver content and add measurement with speed transparency and then biased view will insure comscore continues to expand its currency offerings and both local and national television markets. We will continue to work closely with the <unk>.

C to win National and local T. A b U accreditation.

And all of this goes without saying all of this executing and delivering world class products and our clients and profitable boat growth as our shareholders comes from a commitment of our people and now I'd like to turn this call over to John Carpenter to discuss financial details John .

Thanks Bill.

As Bill mentioned, we close the ear strong generating $96.5 million in revenue up 7% year over year, and $12 4 million and adjusted EBITDA, a 32% increase over the fourth quarter of 2020.

Breaking down our revenue in the quarter of it further we have several key drivers across the portfolio.

Within ratings and planning, we generated $64.7 million in revenue a 2% increase over the fourth quarter of 2020, largely driven by double digit growth in our national and local television measurement products, partially offset by our syndicated digital business.

Which was down year over year, but essentially flat chooser in queue for.

We generated $23.4 million, an activation and optimization revenue up 21% year over year largely on the back of another solid quarter Interactive Asian, offering, where we were up 43% year over here.

Noting and while it's still scaling are predictive audience product that is our cookie free solution within our activation offering wrap nicely throughout the second half of the year, which gives us a lot of solid momentum heading into 2022.

Finally, our movies business continued to rebound, we delivered 19% year over year growth and generate generated eight and a half million dollars of revenue in the quarter.

Because it's all looks like for the year $367 million in revenues up 3% from the prior year.

With a solid print in the fourth quarter or movies division generated $31 million in revenue unruly a tale of two halves for the first half was down here over here, but the second half finished up by approximately 10% year over year.

Within the analytics and optimization business regenerated $81 million in revenues that was up 18% for the year.

Ah ratings and planning teams delivered $255 million of revenues, an increase of 1% versus 2020.

With that revenue delivery, we generated $32 million and adjusted EBITDA.

As Bill mentioned it was important to the management team that we redefine our revenue solution groups Tibet a report on and simplify the way we run our business at the end of the day Comscore measures content and ads for buyers and sellers of media.

This is about providing transparency into the way that we operate and ultimately how we plan to deliver profitable growth and generate cash.

Getting into it as we highlight here, we're moving away from the three revenue solution reporting groups, we have today.

Creating some planning analytics and optimization and movies to a structure of two revenue solution groups digital AD solutions and cross platform solutions.

Digital AD solutions is where we house, our syndicated media and video metric products as well as our Admeasurement products activation and Comscore campaign ratings were offerings provide privacy safe solutions at scale next generation contextual targeting that is did my AD reach my desired.

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And the ability for media buyers to reach valuable audience personas.

Our success here it depends on our ability to scalar digital audience business with growth and new subscribers helped in part by our acquisition of Shirley and second through broad client penetration of our activation and Comscore campaign ratings product both of which will scale throughout the second half of this year.

A cross platform solutions grouping includes our national and local television measurement products as well as our connected television solutions and movie measurement capabilities.

Our offerings are geared toward delivering currency grade cross platform measurements solutions to our clients. Our success will be driven by our ability to expand our national and local currency efforts that is more markets and a greater share of the total AD spending as a percentage of our revenue along with broadening are connected television.

Offering and ensuring our comscore everywhere solution is broadly adopted.

In terms of the guide for 2022, we expect our revenue to grow mid to high single digits with our digital AD solutions group delivering low to mid single digit revenue growth as our syndicated offering turned around and our activation and CCR product offering continues to accelerate at an attractive double did.

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Cross platform solutions is expected to deliver high single digit to double digit growth primarily on the backs of expanded measurement efforts.

From a margin right perspective, we expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA margin over the full year that is consistent with a 9% we delivered in 2021, although I do expect the right to ramp throughout the ear as it did in 2021.

With that I'd like to turn it back over to Bill. Thank you John in summary, our new structure allows us to stay focused on our strategic priorities and be committed to delivering for our clients and our shareholders as we return to growth and our focus on delivering.

And driving change in the great industry that we serve.

I'd like to thank all of our Comscore employees for their hard work and dedication each and every one of them that dedicate their efforts each day.

Finally, before I turn the call over to our audience for questions I'd like to make an announcement about myself.

Part of being an effective C E O is to establish a vision.

And drive a company forward.

But another key element is to provide a seamless transition to the next generation of leadership and I've determined that now is that time.

And why now.

Is this time I chose to retire well I've agreed with the board to.

Begin this process to select my successor, I've made a commitment to the board that I will continue to serve as vice chairman for my full term now my full term does not expire until mid 2024 and when we do.

Find a new C E O I will assist and serve that new C. E O for a seamless transition and that's very important to all of US I've made this decision now because I believe comscore is in a stronger position than it's ever been.

I am proud of the turnaround of the business in our direction forward, which is evident by her success in the fourth order.

This success is why I'm. So excited about the next phase of Comscore story.

I also recognize that I'm just one small part of these accomplishments comscore is remarkable people and the culture that these individuals have worked so hard to cultivate is the foundation on which the company success has been built.

As I work with the board to determine my success for this will be in a thoughtful and deliberate manner. I know this process will go a long way toward ensuring comscore has continued success I. Thank you all for your support and I. Thank you for trusting us with your Investor.

<unk> now operator with that I'd like to open it up for questions.

Thank you.

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Our first question comes from Laura Martin of Needham. Please proceed.

Hi, I'm sorry.

Sorry to hear of your label that congratulations on your retirement.

Thank you Laura.

Uhm sandwich.

Yeah, I'd love to learn more about the competitive environment I feel like three years ago. It was Nielsen with win big markets Comscore with added to everything local and under sort of market.

100, and now I feel like headlines every day video App is getting more business and T. V. Squared was just bought by any of it and know launch it and and and <unk> C. T. D. Linear solution you guys. Just did a deal with double verify which they are equally complimentary as you are of that joint venture partnership my close.

Could you walk us through the competitive landscape today and sort of who's.

You never meet that Nielsen anymore, so who's winning who's losing.

Getting so much more fragmented than it was even three years ago.

Laura that's a great question I continue to believe that this is a two company race. It's like goalpost. This is complicated stuff that we do and or.

AD agencies in our cellars need two currencies to look at and then our judgment is rendered I do believe that connected T. V's. His launched a number of companies that are essentially offer tools and I think they've adopted or phrase of currency. This.

Suck underneath our success. So I believed these companies. These additional ones that you had mentioned will be out there, but I do believe that this is comscore as a primary currency and then Nielsen will remain.

Okay and these other ones will just take little niche market share. That's your point of view on industry structure at the end yeah, Yeah, I do and we're gonna talk more in the future about these tools that are out there in connected T. V information is bad it made it very.

Every easy for a company to start up now we've been very deliberate on what we do with connected television because our own datasets show and I'd like to remind our investors that are on the phone comscore has processes some of which are Pat and some which are pattern.

Pending that we were first in the field to look at what a connected T V offers versus what we know is truth and often.

And somewhere in the air to two thirds of the time and erroneous conclusion can be made so I think this market segment here.

Advertisers AD agencies are Gonna trust the companies that can prove that their information is right because at the end of the today. The billions of dollars that are traded on have gotta be a currency that's correct.

Okay Oh My last question is for John .

We have flat EBITDA at 32 million and 21, and 20 and now it looks like the EBITDA round numbers is gonna move to 34 to 35 million I'm, sorry surprise gentleman locked anymore.

Because we.

E for Comcast data, which should've been a nonsense dot com and the subsequent year and so could you explain why we're not getting more operating leverage extra revenue grows. Please.

Yeah. Thanks, a lot [laughter] look I.

Our business has the ability to throw off strong incremental leverage I think you saw some of that in the fourth quarter as a revenue scales. I think this guidance here gives us room to make the investments to accelerate the revenue with at least at a minimum not sacrificing a base level return from a margin standpoint, and as I mentioned in my.

Comments, we expect to see that right scale throughout the year.

Okay. So can I assume that's instead of just flat that's 9% margin, we're gonna get some margin expansion in that out your started meeting 2023 and beyond is that the application of what you're saying.

Yeah, I think the way to look at it as we'd like we'd like the 9% is kind of the baseline floor and build from there is the revenue scales.

Thank you very much.

Thank you Laura.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Jason Crier of Cray Com. Please proceed.

Thank you Bill bittersweet announcement today I I've enjoyed these conversations with you. So hopefully you have a we have a few more in front of us.

We will.

So you recently express some enthusiasm just around your positioning as we head into the Upfronts. The screen. Just wondering if you can elaborate on that enthusiasm a little bit more than what you expect what you expect the industry to hear about comscore as we move into that.

Okay, I think you're gonna hear that Comscore is used more and more and more is currency I'd like to look back at the last year, the previous upfront and the year before that it was dominated by one company. We're gonna play a big role and these announcements is evidence of it.

Advertisers and AD agencies, they've had us for a long time over a decade. Many of them were they abused us in planning now those of you who follow the media business know that you have to build a plan and you're trusting the information to build the plant now in.

The past they were able to use an inexact currency to buy on because the buyer and seller.

Wanted to see or they did have wikel, if you would and the inexact Ness was something the industry tolerate it with the advent of streaming and just hyper Fractionals Asian, the need for precision is there and I think with this snafu that we saw with our major competitor.

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A point, where everyone said this is not going to work any longer and I do believe that we're gonna come out of this is having a comscore as a principal currency and in the upfront. We're gonna play a big role we talked about recently at a panel I attended on a fireside chat at the interactive.

<unk> Bureau, and I believe what we're gonna play a big role in the Upfronts in new fronts.

Can you take that just a step further if you see the success you think you'll see in the upfront what does that do for the rest of the business over the balance of the year, where where does that create greater opportunities for for Comscore.

It's in all of our businesses, it's in our digital business. It's in our television business and we didn't spend a lot of time talking about our movie business people have returned to the movies and as John talked about it or movie businesses. The the tale of two half of the year and in the second half when.

People felt comfortable to go back to the movies and we also saw the content companies, giving them a real live view of what the world would look like without the theatrical experience. The theatrical experience allows individuals to use social media to promote great content now.

It also kills bad content faster than ever before but I think the big wind here is that companies movie companies content companies aren't gonna create better and better theatrical content to drive social media that will then drive subscriptions to their streaming Platt.

Forms and you all listened to the earnings calls from our clients. That's what the C. E. O S are talking about and we're in a great place with all of our businesses, they're beautiful as they all work together.

Thank you and then and then John you know welcome to the call. One for you just wanted to see if you can give a little bit more transparency on the renewals process I know Laura highlighted earlier kind of the investment you made before on on Comcast at and things like that is there a way to frame. These renewals and you talked about a few.

And the release that.

Or you can provide a metric like a net retention rate or anything that helps investors understand like the rate of increase or the <unk> the bigger opportunity that comscore sees as you go through that renewal process.

Yeah sure I guess the way that we like to think about it, especially when we talk about our cross platform products is.

One how are we doing on our renewals and while we don't I think quote that number publicly very very high in terms of our overall renewal rates, but I guess the way that we think about it internally is how do we capture a greater share of the AD spend and if you look at some of our bigger competitors in the marketplace you know our goal here.

Is to get capture upwards of a point on the AD spend as our business scale. That's ultimately the goal here in terms of water opportunity isn't so we tend to look at.

Our local and and and and national renewals against that metric how are we getting a greater share the AD spend as as one in one key component alongside the overall renewal rate, which is very very high.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you Jason.

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Our next question comes from Matthew Thornton of <unk> Securities. Please proceed.

Hey, good afternoon, maybe maybe one for bill and and one for John If I could bill <unk> can you talk about as we think about 22 I'm curious as we start the year are you seeing any headwind from from kind of everything that's going on in the supply chain. Obviously, it's impacted advertising in a couple of verticals I'm curious if that impact any of your kind of shorter cycle.

Your project revenue and then as we start to exit the year, maybe you could just remind us what type of lift you see from political in a year like 22, and how we can think about that and then just jot a couple a couple for you I guess first the balance sheet I'm just curious how your now that you've been in the door for a couple of months now I'm kind of curious how.

Your feeling about the balance sheet, whether you've got enough wiggle room to kind of make the investments and kind of do what you what you Wanna do.

And then just secondly from housekeeping perspective, Shirley I'm, just wondering if you'd be willing to share kind of what that contributed in the fourth quarter and what that might contribute in in 2022. Thanks guys.

Thanks, Matt, let's start with political.

As we all know every political campaign is local even national campaigns and the politicians looked at influence.

Comscore as tools have been used for a long time since the Obama campaign to help the sellers of media convinced that candidates through their agencies. So political is certainly helpful. Because it continues to show the importance of what we do with all of our media clients.

And we also announced their earlier Oh, maybe a quarter ago a deal that we did on our digital side with our L. Two segments. So we think we're in a really good place with political in terms of the supply chain shocks clearly that does not Ah.

Fact, us directly because we're not buying anything or an information infrastructure business now what is it affected our clients with certain reduced advertising in some areas, yes, but I'd like to point out that the sellers still need to make up that difference.

So they need us more in that environment. So I don't want like I think all of US as citizens of the world do not like what's going on but this is a good environment for comscore to thrive in all of our businesses.

John over to you on man's questions Yeah sure on on.

The cash front I feel pretty good about where we're at there we had a good fourth quarter with regard to overall working capital metrics coming off of a choppy second and third quarters. So I feel good about where the where the plane landed on our working capital progress in the fourth quarter I expect that to continue as.

We stay laser focused on high conversion of EBITDA cash as we go through 2022. We also took the opportunity to with the facility. We have with bank of America to give ourselves a little bit more headroom. The line increased from 25 to 40. So we feel good about where that's at in terms of the overall.

Balance sheets here as we start the year.

And then I think the second question was on Shirley.

I think that the way to to think about that as we bought that asset really to help shore up our core syndicated digital offering and the capabilities. It has there to help spur growth and and the digital side of the business along with the talented team that we brought on board to help us do that and we're off to a great start on that front and I feel.

Good about what those integrations effort efforts are and what it means for for the Guy that we provided on the year.

And John maybe just one quick follow up there <unk> that predominantly housed in readings and planning under the old methodology.

Yes Yep.

Great that's great. Thanks, guys.

Thanks Man.

Thank you. Our next question comes from surrender think of Jaffray's. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, This is Benjamin <unk> coming in for a stranger and congratulations on a corner and just kind of curious in terms of how we should kind of think about the longer term potential for it to look with local T. V Girl for instance, you kind of look out beyond this year. Thanks, Yeah, Yeah, I'll I'll turn the growth rate over to John but I'd like to address local.

A little bit here.

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There was a question earlier about all these competitors out there.

No one competes with us and local.

And we have a competitor that's been out for a long time, but we think there are greatly weaken competitor no. One has better viewership information that's more accurate and reliable in my opinion no. One all of these startups are talking about their progress on national.

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Not many of them are talking about anything locally. So we are in a good place no. One has the quality and the breath of what we have when we think about the longer term in terms of the financials I'll turn that over my partner John .

Okay, I think we feel pretty good about where we're at with local and the progress that we made were coming off a year that grew a double digit we see that continuing here in 2022 and beyond again more laser focused on the renewals in that space were highly penetrated in terms of the number of stations that we've got relationships with and so for US it's all about.

Commanding a greater share of the AD spend that's flowing through the pipes, we feel good about our our currency and cross platform offering that we've got for the local clients.

Got it Super helpful and in terms of just a follow up and as we look at the margin.

Sorry, what kind of revenue growth do you guys need wood in order to journey Margaret expansion.

Yeah, I think you saw on the I think you saw margin expansion in the in the fourth quarter and really in the second half of the year again. Our guide here is the floor and I I expect our our our our our margin is the revenue scales to be a very attractive outcome. Again. This is this is a.

A model that's got the ability to throw a strong incremental leverage S. As revenue ramps. So we've provided kind of 9% as as the floor here, but we liked the model as a as a revenue scales.

Get Super helpful. Thank you.

Thank you I would now like to turn the conference back to Bill Olympic for closing remarks.

Thank you everyone for joining today I hope you can hear by what we talked about that we're really excited about the future of Comscore and also our new structure, that's going to allow us to stay focused on our strategic priorities and deliver for our clients and our shareholders. Thank you <unk>.

Much and look forward to seeing you soon and the next earnings call have a great evening.

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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