Q1 2022 Republic Services Inc Earnings Call
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Hello, I would like to welcome everyone to the public services first quarter 2022 conference call, Jon Vander Ark, our CEO and Brian <unk>. Our CFO are joining me as we discuss our performance.
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Thanks, Stacy and good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us.
We had a strong start to the year, which keeps us well positioned to achieve our full year goals.
Outcomes, we're delivering reflect our focus on profitably growing the recycling and solid waste business and expanding our environmental solutions business. So we can offer the most complete set of products and services to our customers.
The investments, we're making in the business are taking hold and creating undeniable value while further strengthening our three differentiated capabilities of customer zeal and digital and sustainability.
During the first quarter, we delivered revenue growth of 14% generated adjusted earnings per share of $1 14, which is a 23% increase over the prior year.
And produced $531 million of adjusted free cash flow, which is a 14% increase over the prior year.
We continue to believe that investing in acquisition the best use of free cash flow to create long term value earlier.
Earlier this week, we closed the acquisition of U S ecology.
This acquisition Brooks propels Republic into a leading position in the environmental solutions.
And as a platform of high quality assets.
We have customer overlap between our $1 5 billion dollar manufacturing vertical and U S. Ecology is $1 billion book of business.
We estimate our cross selling opportunity at $75 million to $100 million.
We're excited to welcome U S ecology employees through the Republic team and will benefit from their deep expertise in specialty waste handling.
We also invested $66 million in other acquisitions during the quarter.
We also have approximately 400 million of deals in the advanced stages of clothing, all of which are in the traditional recycling and solid waste space.
In addition to investing in acquisitions, we returned $349 million to our shareholders. This includes $203 million in share repurchases and $146 million in dividends.
We are experiencing meaningful traction developing our differentiated capabilities, where actions are leading to outcomes.
Our aspiration is to deliver a world class customer experience, which we call customer zeal.
Our customer retention rate remains at a record setting level of 95%.
This has enabled us to generate the highest level of pricing retention in company history and generate outsized revenue growth throughout the business.
During the first quarter core price reached an all time high of 6% and average yields increased to four 2%.
Volumes increased three 6% compared to the prior year.
And acquisitions contributed an incremental 390 basis point to total revenue growth.
Regarding digital we completed the rollout of rise tablets that are small and large container fleet.
We continue to see tangible benefits of this proprietary technology for our customers and within our operation.
We will begin deploying tablets in the residential fleet later this month and expect to be complete by mid 2023.
We recently went live with the finance and procurement modules of our new ERP system, which will streamline back office activities and empower our local leaders with enhanced data.
Next turning to sustainability.
We continue to believe that environmental sustainability and economic sustainability go hand in hand.
We are passionate about doing things that are good for the future generations in a way that generates profitable growth for our business.
In March the company announced our plans to expand our participation in the plastics value chain with the nation's first integrated plastics recycling facility.
The Republic services polymer center will address the growing demand for recycled plastics, while enabling CPG brands to meet their sustainability goals.
Based in Las Vegas, this will be the first of a three to five centers nationwide and is scheduled to open in late 2023.
We expect with Palomar central generate an incremental $50 million of revenue with an EBITDA margin at or above total company performance.
Earlier today, we announced our joint venture with archaea to develop 39 renewable natural gas projects at our landfills.
These projects generate attractive returns and accelerate achievement of our ambitious 2030 sustainability goal of increasing biogas set for beneficial reuse by 50%.
The projects are expected to come online between 2023, and 2027 at which point approximately 70% of our total landfill gas collected will be beneficially reuse.
This joint venture together with our 17 landfill gas to energy projects under development are expected to generate approximately $100 million of incremental EBITDA.
We continue to be recognized for our commitment to sustainability Republic services was named to Barron's 100, most sustainable companies list for the fourth time I will now turn the call over to Brian . Thanks.
Thanks, John .
Core price during the first quarter was 6%, which included open market pricing of seven 6% and restricted pricing of three 5%.
The components of core price included small container of 9% large container of six 8% and residential of five 3%.
Average yield on total revenue was four 2%, which represents an increase of 80 basis points when compared to our fourth quarter performance.
Average yield unrelated revenue was four 5%.
The outperformance in average yield as a direct result of higher core price increases in the face of more persistent cost inflation.
Dynamically adjusting rates for new work to match demand and increased price retention, which illustrates customer willingness to pay for our high value services.
We expect average yields remained above 4% for the remainder of the year.
First quarter volume increased three 6% the.
The components of volume included an increase in small container of four 1% an increase in large container of four 6% and an increase in landfill of four 7%.
This level of volume performance was in line with our expectations.
Moving on to recycling.
Commodity prices were $201 per ton in the first quarter. This compares to $133 per ton in the prior year.
Our recycling processing and commodity sales contributed 40 basis points to internal growth during the first quarter.
Next turning to our environmental solutions business.
First quarter environmental solutions revenue increased $64 million from the prior year.
This was driven by organic growth from increased activity and the contribution from acquisitions.
On a same store basis, environmental solutions contributed 40 basis points to internal growth during the first quarter.
Adjusted EBITDA margin for the first quarter was 34%.
This compared to 37% in the prior year.
Margin performance during the quarter included underlying margin expansion of 70 basis points and a 40 basis point increase from recycled commodity prices, which was offset by a 70 basis point headwind from net fuel and a 70 basis point decrease from recent acquisitions.
Within the underlying business, we are seeing wage inflation of approximately 4%.
Price increases more than offset this level of cost inflation before considering the impact from productivity improvements.
SG&A expense, excluding U S oncology deal and integration cost was 10, 2% of revenue.
This was flat with the prior year.
Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $531 million and increased $67 million or 14% compared to the prior year. This was driven by EBITDA growth in the business.
Capital expenditures of approximately $200 million during the first quarter represents 15% of our projected full year spend we remain on track to spend our full year budgeted capital expenditures.
Total debt was $9 $6 billion and total liquidity was $2 $8 billion.
Our leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was two eight times.
The rate the contribution from U S psychology into our full year guidance in July once the impact of purchase accounting is better known in other areas subject evaluation are substantially complete with that operator, I would like to open the call for questions.
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The first question today comes from Tyler Brown with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Hey, good afternoon.
<unk>.
So the landfill gas management, obviously pretty exciting I've taken your sustainability report you guys already have something like 75 projects operating today and if my math is right, which is always scary, but I think that maybe makes up a little more than half of the municipal solid waste landfills that you collect gas on so number one.
And my clothes does that.
Right ballpark in two business deal with the 17 projects in development pretty much account for the remaining landfills in your fleet with enough ways to support a project or some of these 39 at existing I'm gonna call them <unk> gas operations, where you're upgrading to orangy.
Yeah. Good question. So the 75 eight of those are solar projects, we put those together.
Sustainability.
So we are 67 today right, we talked about another 17 and development.
Right and then there's a project greenhouse with Archea is another 39.
Okay.
Four of those projects as a 39 are basically recapping existing projects.
Okay I.
I talked about so it's mostly new and incremental so that kind of if you fast forward to 2027, you know you've got a few more that come become an earth because that's the goal of a landfill obviously is to sunset. It so that would take us from 67, a day to 116 in 2027 with everything we're talking about.
Okay perfect Yeah very helpful and then just financially.
What would we kind of see where you put up the money in one big chunk or do you do that as we go along.
You just recognize it as like an income and Noncontrolling interest.
And then there'll basically pay you a dividend back or how exactly what are the mechanics were.
Yeah, and I will do it ratably investing it's not just one big chunk right into this joint venture and then essentially we get there's two forms of our return on that there's a royalty agreement, which is more typical of what we have on our typical projects are existing projects, rather and then we'll be in a minority equity investor Amazing.
Brian you could talk about where it's going to hit the geography of the yeah. So for the royalty similar to what we have today Tyler the royalty will just come through revenue right and you'll <unk>, you'll see that then mostly there's really no cost offsets on most of that flows down to the EBITDA line item and then for the portion where we've got that minority interests that will be a one line pick up which will be.
You know again it'll be included in our EBITDA, but at least separately distinguished though that you can actually see what its contribution is.
Okay. Okay. That's helpful ways away, but they're very helpful. My last week here, just we were kind of perusing. The U S. Psychology tend to you. It looked like they kind of struggled this quarter got really pinched on cost I think EBITDA was maybe down 10%.
A year on year so.
What's the kind of confidence around turning that business around quickly I think you gave some color around the contribution which seems like you were kind of expecting things to get a little bit better as the year plays out, but just maybe talk about the first hundred days days there what the plan is to really kind of get that <unk> for you know positive momentum.
Yeah no. It wasn't their first quarter was kind of right on what we had in the pro forma right in terms of how we value that businesses.
Relatively conservative how we think about things.
Huh well for integration begins now we have teams all over the country welcoming her colleagues together and frankly, it's been going on for weeks within the parameters of what we can do with Doj an anti trust in terms of pre planning for the integration. So we're already driving that through we've got the four areas outlined geographically we've got those teams define.
The leader and the director for right.
Alright, and where all the assets and divisions full up through that and so that concludes integrating our own environmental solutions business into that so we took the best the best in terms of both of your assets and people in terms of how those businesses are structured. So we are you know.
On our way on that front, you know one of the big opportunities. There is to integrate the great setup post question asked that they have with their field services resources and you know Covid was kind of a trip up for them to be able to do that in a full way and we've got the benefit of not being out of COVID-19, but being in a very different stage of COVID-19 and so.
Ken integrating those things together and you know applying are considerable revenue management capabilities to that business looking at the go to market approach. All those things are underway right now yeah. One thing I would add to just on the performance in the first quarter.
Tyler as well is that the performance got better throughout the quarter Mmm.
Mmm.
Okay and it just real quickly just to clarify John I thought you said 75 to 100 million $100 million and synergies and Bryan said 40, yeah.
<unk> cost or what what was yeah. Let me yeah, yeah. The forties, just cos and like we value every deal right, we have really understanding standalone intrinsic value.
Of an enterprise and then we value cost synergies because we've got line of sight to that incremental to that 40, we.
We see $75 million to $100 million of Crossrail opportunities for I, probably realized over about two and a half to three year period.
Alright in a dish revenue synergies sorry, and then in addition to that we bedroom include any pricing and we will take a very hard look immediately in terms of understanding that we're getting a return on all the work, we do and where there is an opportunity, especially an inflationary environment to make sure that we're getting our costs covered and more.
Right right, Okay, great I'll pass it on things.
The next question comes from Tony Katherine with Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead.
Thanks, so much.
You mentioned that 4%.
That seemed really good for this environment and what we've heard from others.
Can you give any color on maybe how you've been able to.
Had any strategies.
Sarah.
Yeah, I would say the features that were soon many years ago right. When you think about being a place where the best people come to work and making sure that people get a fair increase every year, so even very low inflationary environment.
Where you know C. P. I was running sub 1%. We always gave our people you know a two to three per cent increase and their and their wages and if you had the benefits probably a little north of that and so I would say very fit and healthy cost structure coming in to this inflationary environment.
And then we're very disciplined and surgical we believe in market pay and so we understand market pay and market dynamics right across all the 800 dots on a map of where we operate.
And so we've made individually I live across the board kind of rateable cost of living increases every year and then we'd go in and do additional moves where we need to to make sure that we are staying very competitive in the market and we're still going through that right. That's an ongoing process ongoing science and we believe in the local team. We also believe in.
The discipline and the expertise of our H R team and we'd be able to do a centralized review that we're doing things in a smart way and.
Yeah, I think you'll see us do some more of that in the third and fourth quarter here all of which will result in US pricing ahead of our fast inflation outside of productivity, which will allow us to expand our merger.
That sounds great I wanted to ask.
On the renewable energy side, just given me.
Really strong increase in gasoline and diesel prices.
That changed your approach to renewable energy projects hasn't caused any thoughts about pulling foreign investments.
More alternatives.
Thanks.
Yeah, one of the reasons, we're really excited about this joint venture as we think it allows us to get after a portfolio of landfills right.
Did this out and had a very competitive process and really excited about our partner, but that we've taken on all of those projects in those projects of varying returns and some of those things probably we wouldn't have independently gone after in a stand alone basis, just given the size and scale. So we are able to go deeper into our fleet of landfills with projects.
Which is exciting we're also able to go faster.
We can get after all 39 of these in the next in addition to the 18 that we haven't flight.
17, we haven't slightly feel really excited to be able to go after that opportunity that quickly because of that market as it relates to fleet. We are long on electrification about 20 per cent of our fleet is <unk> and we certainly have that as part of the portfolio, but all of our energy going forward as an electric vehicles.
Perfect. Thank you.
The next question comes from Michael Hoffman with equal. Please go ahead.
Hi, Thank you and I also want to thank you for a very kind gesture, who did a few weeks ago I appreciate it.
Four per cent wage replacement, how does that translate into internal cost of inflation total internal cost of inflation.
Relatively consistent Michael when you take a look at me like I think just to put it into perspective I talked about.
Expansion in the underlying business of 70 basis points, I think you'd take that 4% cost inflation and compare that to that yield unrelated revenue, which is four and a half and then you get.
10, 20 basis points of productivity that is the expansion that we're seeing in the quarter.
Okay.
Pardon me for that but I will ask psoriasis fully rolled around in small and large container.
Cause it takes at rate of productivity improvement and walk it up now because you have it more comprehensively distributed them and this is all about taking minutes out and lowering engine hours and the like.
Yeah listen when you first put it in right. If there is a little learning curve and then you get your biggest wave of productivity improvement right. When you can start to standardize the work and getting the routing efficiently and then in those existing such you just start to see incremental improvement over time, we're really happy about our productivity number this quarter given that we had a lot of the <unk>.
Winds up traffic coming back right people coming back to work society opening up and still be able to overcome that still see some productivity is a great signal to us or indicator of what rises delivering plus.
So we'll see this more in the residential fleet and then as we go forward. There is a kind of a 2.0 a rise of starting to get more new advanced analytics, how do we have even take the analysts and build those relative more scientifically how do we start to do more benchmarking across geographies to understand what the true performance improvement opportunities are and yeah.
I think you'll see steady rateable improvement as we go forward.
They were looking at it right now Michael is that we probably have more opportunity last thing we've realized life today.
Got it and then last one on the landfill gas to energy development.
We're putting up 27% of the capital.
Are are you I'm, assuming you control the gas and these other guys need the gas I can't do what they Wanna do even if they've got a lotta money so what what's the economic split.
Or that investment, we have a 40% ownership and the JV, okay and and.
You've talked about that 100 million dollar number over and over again and carry consistently but now it looks like the whole thing is a lot bigger.
Cause I thought the hundred million dollars related to your 17 year of developing and now where where is this an incremental hundred plus 100 for the 17.
No. This is 100 total Michael So again, the 17 was call at about 25 million incremental and then this new JV call at.
75 for a total of 100 for all 56 projects that are under development Okay.
Keep in mind, Michael these are where and a medium sized sites. So these are kind of sub 2000 S CSM sites.
And what will see over time, just kind of randomly going through some of the legacy projects, we have on bigger sites.
Will reach their natural end of.
You know the.
<unk> needs to be recapped, many times it'll be electricity project that will take into RMG and then those will be bigger sites that will go into this joint venture.
Got it alright, thank you.
The next question comes from Hamzah, Missouri with Jeffrey Please go ahead.
Hi, This is Hans Hoffman filling in for Hamzah. So my first question is could you just comment on the quarterly cadence of operating leverage in margins. This year and then just what your labor turnover is running versus pre pandemic.
Yeah, Let me take the margin question here. So you know again, if you take a look at the first quarter and how we performed.
You know, what we see going forward and want a sequential basis is that the fuel really started increasing in March right. Now we're kind of thing it's gonna stay elevated that's the assumption right now for the rest of the year. So sequentially, we see a 30 basis points headwind.
From the impact of fuel now we're also seeing better level of pricing. So we think that we can mostly offset that but that margin would stay relatively flat. If you will from our queue. One performance that's on the traditional recycling and solid waste space. If you then layer and the.
U S ecology acquisition, that's gonna create about a 70 basis point impact a margin for the remainder of the year.
Yeah.
In terms of labor turnover, but it's a little bit of a mixed picture right slightly elevated to pre pandemic levels and some roles.
Certainly down in other roles I'd say those are the labor market remains tight alright, and that we would hire some more drivers for sure if.
If we could get them and so back to run in the business for the quarter of the year running it for the long term alright. So we're looking at all the markets and seeing where we have any elevated turnover understanding right. If we need to put a little more wage into those markets. We will not wages not always the answer is part of what people were cause not all of the reason why it.
Can be shifts schedule. It can be their leader can be lots of things. So we're very mindful of that but we feel like we've got certainly a very good handle on inflation relative to pricing and our ability to cover our costs.
Okay, and then just you know on the hazardous waste exposure you know could you just talk about you know what that level of exposure is.
Compared to what your you know your portfolio is right now you know how big it could get understanding of the solid waste portfolio will also grow and then just you know if you could touch on the cyclicality that hazardous waste business.
[noise] well I'd say hazardous we didn't have any exposure technically I think your question more broadly as environmental solutions versus recycling is always.
Right now I've got about a 400 million dollar business in that space with the acquisition of viewers psychology fast forward. It takes to about 1.4 billion.
Dollar opportunity in that space, what we think with integrating field services in the post collection side of that it's got a relatively similar profile in terms of volatility in that space and if there's a mix of project based work in a mix up recurring revenue probably slightly higher but when you mix. The two parts of the business together it doesn't.
We change our profile any respect.
In terms of growth prospects, we start with recycling solid waste, we've never been more excited about our girls growth prospects, they're both organically and through M&A addition, this platform with you a psychology gives us great geographic coverage and an opportunity to do following tucking in acquisitions to build out some product and service.
Lines or you know fill out a few smaller geographies.
Got it thank you.
The next question comes from Jerry <unk>, calling Tech. Please go ahead.
Yes, hi, good afternoon, everyone.
I'm wondering <unk> hi.
I'm wondering if you could just talk about on U S. A college or you're looking at maybe it's too soon but what's the nature of their landfill agreements you know how quickly can you apply or.
<unk> pricing mechanism through the landfill part of the business based on the contract structure isn't that something.
We'll discuss this call.
Yeah, let's visit are very well run asset. So we start with compliance right great compliant great set of assets right that are Wilmington, Greg compliance culture, great compliance capability and technical capability that we've acquired reviews to colleges. So we're really excited about that and that is really the foundation.
Right that allows us to go to customers and offer them solutions that they're comfortable with that we cause they are producer liability right. So we will maintain right.
Their waste streams in a way that is very compliant that they feel good about that doesn't create liability for our customers that allows us then to price for the value that we're delivering to our customers. So we will take a hard look at that and can we start with not the asset we start with our customers and we work our way back into the assets and ER that begins right away and then some.
Mixer contracted a business and spot and obviously the spot we can look at very quickly the contract decided that we will take a little more time, but over time, you'll see ethics steady improvement in that area.
Okay.
And then on the aren't Orangy contracts.
100 million dollar assumption can you just touch on what that assumes in turn it in terms of gas price for it may be to you and would you mind just commenting on if you have any I'll pick agreements at this point or.
How'd, you were thinking about the opportunity.
Yeah. The JV just Gotta know, we haven't developed the project get so we don't have any agreements, but I can give you some of the assumptions or it got pretty conservative assumptions about gas flow, which we think we could probably beat overtime. This assumes a two dollar in price.
It will be a mix of you know fix versus spot probably more fixed and spot overtime, but will decide what that looks like together.
Okay, Superman and lastly can you talk about how you expect the pricing cadence to play out over the course of the second quarter, but based on the answers that you've you've announced the customers and.
If you can touch on when do you expect inflation to to peak. If you if you have that type of visibility.
Yeah, Jerry as I mentioned in my comments, we expect average yield to remain above 4% again, if you can take a look at the the.
Restricted portion of the business, where we have those index faced price resets, 60% of our portfolio resets in the second half of the year. So you can look for relatively consistent.
Performance throughout the year, but I would sit there and say probably slightly higher in the second half than we saw in the first half.
Terrific.
Mmm.
The next question comes from <unk> D. I D. Please go ahead.
Hi, Thanks for taking my question.
If I look at your your average Joe or price, but this conversion rate.
That's not a great way to look at it but that's been trying up nicely.
It's 70 per cent.
First quarter here.
And I think in your prepared remarks, I remember you mentioned retention that Ah Ah Ah Ah 95 per cent.
Just this is close to an upper bound does that conversion rate over there.
Are there things we can do to continue to know about know about that.
Oh, there are certainly things, we can do to improve it which is this when we talked about our strategy around customer zeal and.
Digital and sustainability those are all things are customers value deeply we think are differentiated not every provider can offer that and as we create a better offering right. Our customers are willing to pay more and stay longer. So that's the essence of what we do now.
There is a structure about if there are things like you know people move rider businesses close so there's things structurally right that I don't think we'll ever get to 100 per cent royalty, but you know at one point, we were sub 90, and then we got to 92 and then we kept climbing the curve and that's the aspiration to continue to get a little bit better because.
The offering is that much stronger and as you know the economics of loyalty in this industry are very very strong when customers stay longer that certainly very valuable for us and there's two components to that calculation, there's retaining more but there's also pricing at a higher level for new business right. Both of those go into the equation. So.
As we expand the environmental solutions business as we have the most complete set of products and offerings, we think that we offer to our customers.
We have a better value proposition. We can then charge more for those services from a new business perspective.
Right no that's not make sense, either obviously, some great great momentum there.
This is my second question you know I think I think you mentioned earlier your for your all in or at least you're focused on electric vehicles here and.
I'm just wondering.
As a buyer of that technology, what do you think the bottleneck right right right now is for <unk>.
Mass adoption then.
And I guess when you are evaluating what's in front of them look what are the K P. Like the amount of the most is it is it just seems like battery density or or do things like supply chain resiliency given all that has happened the past nine months like does that.
Does that play a greater role like would you prefer a vendor that for example had vertically integrated their their their battery technology, so that they're not dependent on somebody else, which creates execution risk on your order just just wondering how you how you kind of look at that that evolution here.
Yeah.
Good Christian both are relevant certainly functionality right in the bottlenecks wait in range right for us the operative metric as a truck has got to be able to deliver a full route in the day right without having a mid day charge that kind of craters the economics of it because whatever benefit you get you'd burn up in productivity Unamid HR.
George.
We feel very optimistic about where we're headed on that front Ah wait we are working really hard on some short term exemptions with a state local.
<unk> and get have already made some progress on that front as well and don't think that will be a hurdle or barrier. We're very mindful of the supply chain with our partners to understand that hey, what what's our confidence in them being able to deliver this overtime and obviously the world's changed a lot in the last not only two years, but last 71 days. So we're.
Cognizant of that and certainly baked that into our plans, but still have all that being said optimistic about the progress of starting to buy.
Electric vehicles that scale, you know within the next two and a half three years.
Perfect. That's it for me. Thank you for taking my question.
The next question comes from Sean Ethan with key Bank capital market. Please go ahead.
Hi, guys start to the year here.
What would it be possible to drop the U S psychology outlets commentary to free cash flow broke for this year and on an annualized basis.
Yeah look in these in these first couple years you know, let's just take this year for example, we're thinking conversion and call. It the 20% range and again, there's some elevated capital spending in particular with a with a landfill or a building out landfill disposal capacity, which takes us into 22 and 23.
That didn't modulates and as we talked about before.
We still see 47% conversion as a consolidated company by 2024.
Okay got it helpful and maybe putting U S ecology, aside and just looking at you know stand alone or S. G.
Could you refresh any of the components of the year over year margin bridge for the full year. You know we had the 60 to 70 from from pricing ahead of inflation [noise]. You know I think we had 50 from normalizing incentive comp and then that was offset by <unk>.
<unk> 40 basis points from that fuel and.
40 basis points from acquisitions. It is there anything in that bridge you'd you'd be able to refresh for us here.
What I would probably say is that the big things that change relative to our initial assumption is that fuel at current prices creates an additional 50 basis point headwinds and think about pricing in excess of cost inflation offsetting that outside of the U S. Ecology, so relatively consistent expectation for the full year just getting there.
Slightly different way.
Okay got it very helpful. Thanks.
The next question comes from no. Okay with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Thanks, very much wanted to ask about some of the volume trends in the order you know I know that the cops weren't too tough, but you did outperform I think relative to the industry. So wonder if you could touch on what you're seeing in the markets. What are net new business trends. What are you seeing in terms of business formation wherever might've actually surprised look.
But to be upset on volume in the quarter and I guess the last part of that is you know how much of this is really just being in the right markets and how much of it is potentially attributable to to share things.
Yeah, that's what I figured you're still you're seeing the company as a country rather open up Ah kind of post COVID-19 and some of that we saw last summer, but some of it we didn't I think I mentioned this before a California right didn't really open up because they were thinking about opening up the you know omicron berrien he'll hit them right.
We didn't see quite the lifts seasonal lift we do there so you're certainly seen some of that come back and that is we're benefiting from our geographic footprint on that including where population is drawing right R. Sunbelt exposure helps as you see people going into it.
Texas, and Arizona and other places that.
Large volumes and then listen to all of our investments into customer zeal and digital right are showing up in terms of organic growth.
And that cut we're winning on the street I think it's very tough to compete right now in a challenge labor environment I think there's some people ever equipment challenges right given supply chain shortages and we feel very good about.
Our equipment deliveries feel good about our team was.
Tight labor market. So we would take more drivers if we could this place, but I feel pretty good about how work being able to sell and service customers.
Yep Mmm that'd be sent to my next question, which is you know on the M&A front, you mentioned that you wanted to get lost or the $400 million of you know short term central pipeline, but.
What do you think about the current challenging operating environment in terms of its impact on on on M&A, We certainly seen some some pretty healthy activity to start the year, but how do you see that potentially affecting the.
The pace in the pipeline of of the M&A opportunity.
Yeah, I forget remained strong and we remain very encouraged about our outlook on that space.
I think a number of things have helped us and probably helped the industry in the last three years right first you had you know.
The fear around tax reform and that driving some selling activity you had COVID-19 and that making it a very challenging environment and now you've got an inflationary environment with a constraint labor market, where it's just getting tougher to compete.
Add to that all the digital investments, we're making it a scale that's very tough for other people to replicate that are providing a better product to our customers and I think that drives the opportunity for us to not only grow organically, but also have a very attractive M&A Piper.
Pipeline going forward.
Alright, great. Thanks, that's court.
Thanks.
The next question comes from my furniture with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question Bryan I think you mentioned in the college I think it's 70 beeps dilutive to Martin's for this year.
How do we think about your margins now how did you guys to integrate ecology, especially this year and in in context of your 31 32 per cent target getting back there is pushing.
Pushing out a year, how can we kind of think about it with with the integration now with this business.
Yeah. So so Mike we're going to sit there and we are going to separate lines. We think about reporting we're going to separate the environmental solutions based its own segment. So as we think about the recycling and solid waste space. We have direct line of sight to that 32% margin book. This is structurally that the business it's different on the environmental.
Mental solution space, but we think there is opportunity and so this is something where will it take longer to get there on a consolidated company Bay shore, but we look at continual improvement not only the realisation of the synergies the cost synergies, but as John mentioned, we didn't include any of the revenue synergies whether it be.
Any additional price into that performance, so again, you'll be able to see it and you'll be able to see the cadence and we'll talk about art.
Hi that as we provide annual guidance.
Perfect. That's helpful. And then just lastly, Brian I think he call reported $150 million of EBITDA in 2021, so the hundred and 30 million and EBITDA over the eight months what level of organic growth or are we assuming and in the margins look like it's a little higher than last.
Yeh I might not be comparing apples to apples, they're so any call. You can you can address on on on that pick up I'd. Just lastly, I know I think Jerry asked earlier I'm just curious like how does pricing work on this business. We we know the restrictive and the C. P. I the open market in on the solid waste side curious you we could add color on on how.
Kind of plays out on that environmental services book, Thanks, guys.
Yeah. So let me talk a little bit about the EBITDA so again.
Analogy in the business. So let's talk about what we're expecting for a full first year contribution or an equivalent so before any synergies we would sit there and say we were expecting about $160 million worth of EBITDA that would compare to the 150 odd million that you were referring to so that would be the year over year growth.
We then layer Nan again, a full year would be about $10 million. The first year synergies what that means for the eight months based on the acquisition date, that's which translates into that $130 million of EBITDA, which includes $5 million worth of realized synergies.
And then like a pricing I think the best analog do you think about the solid waste recycling space. So you think about the posts collection of assets of U S ecology, and special waste right. Those are event based deals and special way said, some recurring streams and it has some event base streams.
If you're only in posts collections right, you're a taker and both of those and you're typically giving more spot based pricing. Sometimes more continued streams are contracted but contracts are typically for shorter periods of time, and then the generator or the collector of those dreams bears that out.
The opportunity here is to integrate in the field services right to have the assets, but driving that full integration, which allows you then to drive pricing from the customer which drives more longer contracted and more consistency in the price right reduces the volatility of that demand and so that is the focus.
Understanding generators of consistent streams of specialty waste has just handling and being able to supply them right in integrating that into the landfills and over time, we get we saw this over a decade and a half and it's always a recycling space, that's how pricing power.
Sure Alright, emanated integrating those two things and not thinking about those two things are separate.
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Hi, Good afternoon, I wanted to ask how <unk> came up with the $75 million to $100 million of cross selling opportunity specifically is that kind of a realistic estimate or ensnare conservatism.
That number.
Yeah. So it was certainly bottom up it wasn't a top down one and we're in this space right. We've been in big pretty big footprint in the Gulf Coast now for.
Few years last year, we acquired ACB, which gave us a footprint in the northeast in the mid Atlantic and so we're seeing it right we've already gone to market together and we're seeing opportunities to.
To serve customers because we now have the broadest set of environmental services products and services and so customers bigger customers value that one stop shop offering right. They want fewer suppliers in their facility. They liked the assurance of what we can do with those materials. So we're seeing that winning and.
That space when you think what used to college you know you just have much bigger patch of land that we got about a bill.
He didn't have manufacturing business, there about 1 billion in revenue and we lay that across in terms of number of customers and take a fairly conservative estimate in terms of the types of penetration we can get across that that's how it came up with 75 to 100 and as John mentioned the proof points had been there with the the acquisitions that we've already done in our existing busy.
Mr being able to see that that cross sell opportunity Israel.
Okay. That's helpful and Uhm, if I can ask now that you close on the acquisition G feel comfortable talking about whether you had considered divesting any parts that you might be called these business or whether you know that's even part of the consideration that you're evaluating down the line.
Sure Yeah, there's a there's a smaller international business.
And they have a standby business. Both are good businesses I think the question is are we the national owners of those assets. So we'll start with international we put that under review and understand Hey, how integrated as that and whatever else, we do and give it to get we're not a international player right, where north American player will.
Take a hard look there in the next several of value understand semi business again, we always start with a customer what's the customer interaction and overlap and then we go into access it.
In terms of it was sharing facilities and then we'll get into the ability to disintegrate that sometimes there's something so tightly connected right. It's tough to divest of that but if it's unrelated on the customers and the answer scientifically answer is is easier to the us. So we'll put both of those are under review in that sequence in Louisville.
Update you accordingly.
Okay. Okay, great. Thank you.
At this time there appear to be no further question Mr. Vanderhoek I'll turn the call back over to you for closing remarks.
Thank you Betsy.
In closing we are proud of our first quarter performance, which demonstrates the value our strategic investments are creating.
We continue to manage the business to create long term value for all stakeholders I would like to thank all of our employees for their continued hard work and commitment to partnering with customers to create a more sustainable world.
We look forward to seeing everyone at waist Expo next week as we proudly recognize our four drivers of the year and celebrate Don Swaggers well deserved induction into the N. W. R. A hall of Fame.
Have a good evening and be safe.
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