Q1 2022 Vimeo Inc Earnings Call
<unk> of our M&A capabilities, we've hit our internal targets for the first half of the year in the first month after our soft launched in this product as a result of the wire works acquisition that we did in Q4 of last year.
But also and more importantly, because in many ways. It's a great example of how early we still are in video.
This medium that was designed for lean back entertainment content is now used by organizations to drive purchases on their e-commerce store to train their employees and more engaging ways and to support their customers.
Each of these use case is really a lean forward consumption experience, where instead of being in front of a television screen the viewers on their desktop computer or on their mobile phone and.
And the video experience needs to be more engaging to to integrate seamlessly in their user journey, whether that's part of an ecommerce funnel internal onboarding or if the queues on our customer support websites.
We're in the early innings of what our product can do for businesses and we're excited to continue to push the boundaries here.
Turning back to team and execution I am pleased to announce that we've hired a new CMO, who has spent over 30 years in marketing with deep expertise in b to B enterprise SaaS and brand marketing will be sharing more details on that appointment in the next few weeks. We've now added for C suite executives in the last six months.
Each of whom has operated at scale understand SaaS inside out and has deep functional expertise.
Underlying these changes is a commitment that we've made to ourself to enhance our execution to setup vimeo for the next phase of growth not only with our executive team that throughout our people our processes and our systems the.
The skills and tactics that got us from $50 million to $400 million in revenue are not the same thing that will get us to a multibillion dollar company.
We haven't and we will not hesitate to make the changes and upgrades necessary to step up our game on operational excellence and I'm confident that we will see the fruits of that labor over the next few quarters.
Before I hand, it over to Jillian I do want to comment on recent geopolitical events the.
The invasion of Ukraine is devastating.
It had very it would be.
Hit very close to home as we have about 80 employees in the Ukraine, some of whom I've been working with for over 10 years.
We're in all at the extra ordinary spirit of our team in the impacted regions and all of the people of Ukraine.
We've suspended our support for new customers in Russia, and announced updated content guidelines to be more explicit in what we defined as missing information and propaganda on our platform.
The vast majority of our employees and Ukraine are in safe locations and currently remain productive, although we cannot stress enough that the safety of our employees and their families is paramount and a key priority for our company.
With that welcome to your first earnings call with Vimeo Julien.
Thanks, Mark I'm delighted to be at Vimeo and thrilled to be on my first Vimeo earnings video.
Some reasons that I came to vimeo are worth, noting today now that I'm in Montana.
I want to be part of building a profitable multibillion dollar revenue company that will lead its industry. After a month with the company I can see a lot of evidence this opportunity is very real.
I didn't join this team and I believe that my experience and approach can truly help our management team define and drive a disciplined growth strategy and I believe my approach to thinking and discussing financials for both simplify and demystify the video vimeo financials internally and externally I hope to have the opportunity to meet with many of you over the coming quarters.
Let me start by trying to simplify our business for Ya for Vimeo. There are four main economic drivers of revenue growth top of the funnel momentum conversion of that funnel into paying customers, our average price and retention.
As I think about vimeo and work to describe it to our investors I will try to talk to these drivers often to help give you color on both what we are seeing and what we're working towards.
Well I will try to address each individually here our revenue growth is in reality. The result of the combination of these factors together.
I will discuss them one by one now.
Top of the funnel for US is both leads coming into our sales assisted pipeline and visitors coming to vimeo is landing pages and converting into self serve customers.
In sales assisted we are executing a go to market evolution given the opportunity we see ahead.
We expect to drive continued growth in the funnel of customers and our sales assisted approach in 2022 and beyond especially as we move through the sales team enhancements that Mark just mentioned.
In self serve the pandemic accelerated the top of our funnel growth and that is now in the process of normalizing back to pre pandemic levels.
Conversion Vimeo has experienced strong and steady conversion improvements through the pandemic and this continues to be an area of focus, especially in a more challenging self serve top of funnel environment in.
In sales assistant conversion rates from pipeline remain healthy, but with room for improvement in our view.
And self serve our conversion rate has more than doubled since 2019, enabling us to be efficient with traffic and providing strong core economics.
Price for us is really about <unk>.
Vimeo is overall <unk> has been trending up over time as we have continued to grow the percentage of our revenue from sales assisted and therefore higher priced products and we have held pricing on a per product basis stable.
Additionally, we believe we have an opportunity to add to our <unk> growth with a smarter approach to pricing and packaging rolled out in a measured way as Mark mentioned when he talked to your priorities.
Finally retention retention fuels the largest piece of our revenue at Vimeo and gives us the recurring revenue aspect of our business.
In sales assisted our retention rates continue to show steady healthy trends.
In self serve retention rates are down slightly year over year, largely as a result of a planned mix shift to free trials and mobile which have lower year one retention.
Retention rates for customers in year, two and beyond continue to exhibit good stability at this point and we are pleased with the net effect, particularly as we get more year to data from our largest pandemic cohorts there.
This matters because we believe we are holding onto a significant portion of our pandemic gains and have inherent stability from which we can drive future growth.
Now turning to the Q1 and our outlook.
Through the lens of these four building blocks, here's how Q1 came together.
Top of the funnel weakness, particularly on Seltzer made itself more apparent through Q1 negatively impacting bookings growth we.
We had continued conversion strength in self serve with some offset in sales assisted as we executed our sales transition.
Our retention results were healthy and <unk> continued to grow year over year.
Q1 revenue reached $108 million and was up 21% year over year with healthy growth across both self serve and self assisted customers.
Sales assisted revenue continue to grow faster than self serve at greater than 50% growth year over year, while self serve growth was 14% year over year, excluding the impact from the <unk>, which you will recall is in the process of being deprecated.
The upside is compared to our guidance was due to slightly better than expected performance on the sales assistant front.
We think giving color on self serve versus sales as such it makes sense today, but I'd like to remind everyone that the lines between them will likely blur over time, given more that given that more than 80% of our sales assisted customers come from within our self served base.
We grew paying subscribers to 169 million up 6% year over year.
<unk> in Q1 was $260 an increase of 12% compared to Q1 of last year.
We now have more than 8000 pain sales assisted customers.
The remainder of my comments will refer to non-GAAP measures.
Moving to expensive profitability, our gross margin improved approximately 330 basis points year over year of roughly 40 basis points Q over Q of 75% in Q1.
R&D expense for the quarter was up 50% year over year as we strategically added product in engineering talent to the team.
The rise in costs includes compensation adjustments, we have made to invest in our existing employees given the tight labor market.
We plan to grow into this upsize team scale as we continue to grow the business.
Our sales and marketing spend for the quarter was up 33% year over year also reflecting a strategic 2022 investment in our future as we continue to build out both direct sales head count and infrastructure, which we believe we can scale over time.
G&A rose, 73% year over year, largely reflecting growth in our team and related compensation.
One note, we did increase our provision for credit losses, roughly $3 million due to near term uncertainty around a new billing system implementation, which we expect to work through over the coming months.
Finally, adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $10 million.
We ended the quarter with a healthy $291 million in cash on our balance sheet cash.
Cash was down versus Q4 due to our EBITDA losses, the timing of bonus payments and some use of working capital as we adopted the new billing system.
Now onto our outlook for the year as.
As I am digging into this business and as you may have surmised from Mark's comments. There are factors driving our business that we are very confident such as the size of and our ability to capture our sales assisted opportunity or.
Our conversion progress.
Our retention and the <unk> increases we are enjoying as we grow sales assisted as a percentage of our business.
In fact, there are clear opportunities to drive each of our factors over time.
The top of the funnel for our self serve business is harder to forecast as the environment Normalizes post pandemic given.
Given volatility on traffic trends through the year I'm going to give a more specific Q2 outlook today and talk to the rest of the year in more general terms.
We will continue to give you monthly metrics and you can expect an update on 2022 from us at the next earnings call.
For the second quarter of 2022, we expect revenue growth of 12% to 14% with gross margin of 75%.
And adjusted EBITDA loss of between $11 million and $13 million.
Today, we are not providing revenue guidance for 2022, given my short tenure and the volatile environment. We're in however, as we sit here today. We currently expect bookings growth to Reaccelerate in the second half led by sales assisted.
Based on the math of how our revenue works a reacceleration of bookings will drive a reacceleration of our revenue growth after some lag.
We remain in an investment posture in 'twenty trying to and have organized ourselves structurally to accelerate growth.
But we are committed to disciplined growth and we will adjust our operating expense growth rates to appropriate level relative to our revenue.
Specifically, we do not expect to exceed the full year adjusted EBITDA loss, we guided to last quarter of between $25 million and $30 million.
I plan to help the team look at all of our investments with an eye to how they impact our drivers and ensure they are appropriately aligned.
Moreover, it is important to mention that to the extent, we do not see the revenue materialize as we would as we expect we will address the resulting imbalance of expenses accordingly, and bring down expenses as a percentage of revenue to drive sustainable growth.
Longer term the Vimeo story continues to be about growth. What we have here at Vimeo is a strong growth of sales assisted business that we believe only gets better as we lean into its strengths.
And we have a self serve business with strong fundamental tailwind that was a major pandemic beneficiary and as adjusting now to a more normalized environment.
Together, we believe these businesses will deliver an attractive revenue growth profile. Once we work through this normalization period.
We believe we can deliver growth in a disciplined manner and I'm already getting to work to help achieve these goals.
Again, I want to thank the Vimeo team and Mark for welcoming me. This is my kind of opportunity and I'm very excited to continue to dive in with you all with that I'll open up for your questions over to you yeah.
As a reminder, please on your microphone and turn on your camera went cold on and limit yourself to one question and one follow up in the interest of time our first.
Our first question comes from Tom Champion at Piper Tom.
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Good morning, Julian and Mark and Julian it's great to see you I'm sure it's been in.
An exciting and eventful couple of weeks.
Jimmy I think it.
It's probably important to discuss.
Outlook.
Sure at the top I mean, particularly the full year revenue.
Outlook, which was previously 15% to 18% maybe.
You could just.
Help us think through.
Range of revenue outcomes as we update our models here.
What.
What's kind of a.
Sensible way to think about that and maybe you could just provide a little bit more detail on.
The macro environment.
Maybe what what Youre seeing there.
The tactical guidance Youre instilling at the company on a day to day basis understanding that it's very early days for you any any comments on that would be really helpful. Thanks sure, yes, starting a public company CFO job with four weeks to go to an earnings call as a unique experience.
But it's been a lot of fun to get to know the vimeo team.
So as we sit here today, we believe that we can deliver double digit revenue growth in 2022.
But we are seeing uncertainty on the top of the funnel and the self serve business.
And as we think about how that impacts bookings.
But it's hard to figure out exactly which month that will turn and so it's hard to then give you revenue because revenue trails bookings, but let me tell you a little bit about what were assuming within all of that so that gives you a little more color on the business. The first thing I'd say is that what we really know well about the business is that our sales assisted business has a really strong.
Growth profile, we're investing to accelerate its growth and we continue to see a great outlook for that business. Secondly, we believe that if you look at the other drivers of our revenue in terms of retention and conversion and <unk>. All of those are going in the direction. We want so really what we're watching is those bookings and particularly as they really.
To the traffic on the top end of the self serve funnel is just at this point the curve is hard to give you a real color on given the environment and so that's why we're not giving the full year revenue guidance.
The company is absolutely positioned to grow that is our main focus and we want to position ourselves to grow in a disciplined manner and that's why we're committed also to make any EBITDA target that we announced last quarter of $25 million to $30 million.
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Great. Thank you.
Thank you next question Youssef Squali from Trust.
Great. Thank you.
And congrats Joe.
Maybe.
Double click on the self serve.
I think you guys talked about top of funnel normalizing I'm, assuming some of that is purely driven by macro I was wondering if there's anything else other than macro that you can call out maybe you can also talk about some of the new self serve products that you mentioned in your prepared remarks.
How quickly do you think we can basically see that starting to translate into revenues to reaccelerate.
Chris Thanks.
Yes, So let me address.
Those points so first.
Taking a step back on the on the traffic.
We believe that that is actually structural that it's coming.
Coming from the environment.
But if we if we look at.
The funnel lower than traffic, we see different things on shelves assisted and self serve and I know you've asked about self serve let me address sales assistant just for a minute.
On the sales assisted we are now closing larger deals with larger customers than we've ever done that business is now north of 30% of our revenue.
And it's a healthier revenue and mix these customers stay with us for longer they pay us more overtime, they're more profitable.
And the reason I'm, bringing up this find is because they're also adopting the new products that we're launching and.
We're seeing multi product adoption, we've talked about be north of 50% now for these sales assisted customers and so as we think about our product suite and broadening.
The number of products that we offer we think about that both across self serve and self system.
On self serve what we are seeing is like we said double the conversion rates in our funnel.
We're seeing our new customers paying us more for the new products that we offer them and so we're seeing traction from the products that we've launched over the last couple of quarters in terms of the new products that we're launching this year, we're expecting that impact to happen over the next couple of quarters, but we're not relying on that for the bookings for <unk>.
<unk> in the second half of the year, we have a number of initiatives across go to market you've heard about all the enhancements we've done at the beginning of the year to set ourselves up.
To succeed there for the rest of the year, you've heard about some of the pricing and packaging changes that we have in the works.
And then we have obviously the product.
<unk> as well so we believe we can impact conversion, we can impact our pool, we can impact we can continue to impact retention rates throughout the year and get to bookings for exploration in the second half with these levels yes.
One thing I would just add to that is we have tried to be pragmatic about how much we expect out of the self serve business. So when we look at that reacceleration of bookings more than half of that will come from the sales assisted business and we're trying to take a more conservative look at the self serve business.
Any chance you could help us quantify kind of the drop in telco.
So traffic is it 10% or is it more just again get a center.
Softer.
It is relative to what it was true independent.
So we're.
We're not.
We're going to give specific numbers, but I think what mark said in his comments.
That is back to 2019 levels of pre pandemic levels is the way I would think about it. So we certainly had a large boost during the pandemic and we're back kind of where we were before and I would just add that you know.
It's difficult to compare given the improvements we've made over time and our conversion rates in our pool and so you can't really do a like for like on traffic volume.
Got it okay. Thank you.
Next question from Brent Thill of Jefferies.
Good morning, Julien, maybe if you can share your guidance philosophy as a CFO .
Your predecessor mentioned he guided towards what you see.
Versus others see if those may maintain a more conservative view on the pipeline and what they're seeing and what theyre, telling us. So can you just give us your perspective on the philosophy and how you guys.
I'll, let you answer the question.
Just to start off.
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I wanted to be clear that this guidance question. We've also Julia has been here for a little more than three weeks than we did ask are we gave her the mandate to take a fresh look at this business to form her own perspective, and so part of what you're seeing here is giving her the time to do just that.
So I'll, let you answer the question that.
It's definitely part of the mandate that we've given Julien.
Yeah. It's a good question I really tried to as the CFO to be transparent and tried to lay out what we're trying to get done.
That I will tend to try to make sure we have the room to operate.
I don't tend to want to price us for perfection, if you will in other words.
We'll always try to find a way to make sure that we can adjust if things happen in the business.
We would like to be giving more precise guidance I think the reason we've decided not to give 2020 guidance is precisely the the lack of visibility we have at the top of that funnel and trying to be transparent about what we're seeing.
And then in terms of the business itself, we really are.
Positioning the business for growth, that's what we're investing against and you know my focus and outside earnings is to move on to really helping everyone. In the team make sure that the investments, we're making are going to pay off in the way. We expect so that we can reaccelerate those bookings.
And quick follow up when.
When you look at.
We're seeing the pipe of new customers, but when you look at the churn rate of existing are you seeing a higher churn among the existing cros.
Multiple sectors or how would you describe it now so I talked about the four drivers of our revenue growth I'm going to try to as we've talked to you all in coming quarters, just keep coming back to this because they really do help frame the business in terms of retention in the sales assisted business. We are seeing excellent retention and it's very very stable in this.
Self serve business retention is down a little bit year over year, it's largely year, one cohorts, where we have a higher mix of mobile and free users in the mix. If you look at year, two and beyond the retention is very very stable. So we're feeling very good about where we are from a retention basis that said every one of these drivers is a really important strategic area for the.
Company and we have always have people working on each of them, including retention retention drive the majority of our revenue and so we really always want to be on top of that as well in the year. One is the mix of mobile and free trials.
That we've increased over the last year.
Welcome to the team thanks. Thanks.
Great. Thank you next question from Brian Fitzgerald with Wells Fargo.
Thanks Julien welcome.
Couple of questions from US we wanted to ask about the gross versus net subscriber addition to dynamics there in the quarter, maybe if you could unpack the impact from the deprecation.
Deprecation.
And then a follow on.
If you look back to 19.
28, 280000, net subscriber additions obviously most on the shelf search side. So just wondering if you could give us some context based on similar top of funnel activity, what the range of outcomes might be on subscriber additions. This year sure as it relates to subs ex.
So they're up roughly 1% versus last quarter. So.
And then obviously up year over year, I think it's around 11% year over year versus the 6% of the overall.
In terms of subs and new subs were not going to comment on specific numbers, but I think again I'll go back to those drivers which are mined mental model to think about this and so what we've talked about is that we have double the conversion.
From that pre pandemic period, so on lower traffic, we are able to much more efficiently get new subscribers into vimeo.
Got it and then Mark maybe one quick follow up you mentioned the.
You mentioned multi product at 50% now any granularity in terms of type of client vertical or size.
To call out in terms of keeping moving to most products.
No it's not specific to any.
Protocol or size of customer.
I'll give you just more color in terms of what they tend to be doing.
Really about 18 months ago, most of our Vimeo enterprise customers were coming to us for live streaming and it was either live streaming of town halls or livestock.
Live streaming of broadcasting live streams of public events.
And over the last.
18 months with the products that we've launched we're seeing cross usage of things like our video library product, so our customers coming in and starting to use us as that system of record for the organization and broadening the use of the product within the employee base. So instead of just a one way broadcast of an event to.
The employee base or to customers they will bring in their employees to upload their own video content, maybe record their screen and upload that content, maybe create a short form video as well may be user vimeo events products to do webinars and capture leads.
So that's really the expansion that we've gone through over the last 18 months.
Got it I appreciate it Julian welcome.
Nice to see you.
Next question from William Care Cowen.
William Please.
Can video have you there.
I'll take it.
Right.
Thanks.
Hey, Julien welcome.
I guess it sounds like a potential reacceleration as we round through the back half of the year and into next year would be led by San Francisco segment, how much sales force efficiency kind of in that channel currently and do you expect.
Sufficiency gains.
For that segment to improve in.
Secondarily, just any color on the sales head count right now and is it going to grow further this year. Thank you yeah, we won't talk about the specifics of efficiency and head count what I can tell you is that we have put in motion quite a lot of enhancements over the beginning of the year and we are.
We are looking at the key metrics across our sales force, whether that's a win rate whether thats sales cycle, whether that sufficiency for that matter and we're gonna be adjusting and will adjust both our investments and we'll adjust.
The way we operate as we see.
The success of these changes Pan out we definitely this is definitely a large area of investment for us because you're right. That's the piece that is leading our bookings growth and just to sort of bring it back to the numbers as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we expect the percentage of revenue from some of our key strategic investments to.
Down over time, and you pair that with our EBITDA guidance to get much closer to breakeven by the end of the year essentially the team had a very significant build this quarter and so we are certainly less efficient right. Now then we expect to be as we move through the rest of the year.
Thank you.
Next question from Dan Salmon of BMO.
Great Good morning, everyone.
So I've got a bit of a two part question I think Mark you want to go back to some of your comments in the prepared remarks.
It leaves you reiterated the company's long term targets, which.
Where previously for revenue growth around 30%, if I remember correctly, the components being around 15% subscriber growth, 16% ARPA growth I just wanted to confirm to you.
Are those is that over the longer term outlook still intact.
And then second just similar question on gross margin, 75% this quarter Julien Youre guiding to 75% next quarter, that's a long term target as well.
That would expect it to remain consistent awesome. Thank you.
Yes so.
One, yes, we expect that to be entirely intact.
Taking a step back from the 30% I understand that is important but taking a step back from that the.
The reality is what we believe is every business in the world needs to adopt video, it's not an elective anymore because people want to communicate more effectively internally they want to grow their business. We believe video is the most powerful way to do that and so over the coming years every business in the world as a candidate.
For our products. So it's an enormous market and we are very uniquely positioned nothing of that has changed.
I would say the way we measure our success is not in the last couple of quarters, but really how we're able to execute against that strategy of bringing video to every business in the world and I think some of what we talked about earlier today illustrates our progress where we're actually we feel.
Good about that progress with our ability to penetrate.
These larger companies with our newer products with our ability to expand our markets.
With the adoption of our products and our improvements in our AR and the conversion range. So huge market. We haven't we don't see any change in that thesis. We continue to have strong conviction in that strategy and yes, ultimately that leads to a 30% or north of 30% growth.
Business, and just sort of taking it to numbers and sort of framing that a little bit we continue to see a 30% is a doable number for the business. What we really have here is our sales assisted business with healthy double digit growth and strategic.
Strategic investment to continue to accelerate that opportunity. It just happens to be the smaller part of our business and then our self serve business, which is bigger is in going through a post COVID-19 normalization period. We continue to think that will also be a growth business, just a little bit of a slower rate than the sales assistant business. When you blend the two.
Gather and our sales assisted business gets closer to 40 or 50% of the business that the rates of growth for the overall company come up meaningfully and so 30% continues in our view to be the right target there'll be a question of what the timing is on that as we work our way through 2022.
But we continue to be very focused on that goal and thats. The investment profile that we've put together for the business here in 2022 as well.
Thank you.
Great Oh, you asked.
Sorry, Yeah go ahead, you asked about gross margin and I'm, sorry, I didn't answer your question on gross margin gross margins come up a lot in the last year and it was up sequentially. We will always look for opportunity in gross margin, but in terms of as we think about the business, we're modeling and essentially flat from here.
Great.
The next question from Cory Carpenter of Jpmorgan.
Sorry.
Hey, Thanks for the question I had two first is the macro environment impacting the business at all on the enterprise side, especially maybe bookings in Europe . We've heard mixed messages from other software companies around that particular, and then secondly, how should we think about any operational risks.
Associated with this new situation going on in Ukraine, perhaps most tied to the product roadmap. Thank you.
Yes, So let me start with.
The first question, we are not seeing any particular pressure with our Europe .
Sales assisted business.
It relates to the specific of specifics of the Ukraine, and Russia markets. It's a very small percentage of our overall revenue less than 1%.
But no on the sales assistant side, we're not seeing anything specific to Europe , we are seeing as it relates to the macro environment, obviously that top of the funnel pressure that we've talked about.
In terms of the.
<unk> risk. So look yes, we have about 80 people in Ukraine, there are exceptional talent and.
We don't see any change in our long term investments in Ukraine.
We have flexibility however, because over 50% of our R&D work forces outside of the U S. We have offices in India, we have offices in Israel.
In the U K.
And so we have flexibility to grow these locations.
Should something more disastrous happens but.
But right now our teams Luckily you are all safe their families are safe and that's what we're focused on.
Thank you.
Great last question in queue comes from Justin Patterson at Keybanc Justin.
Great. Thank you good morning, welcome Julian and I'm also glad to hear that Ellen Julie and her family are doing well after the birth.
So two if I can first Julian you've been here for three weeks could you talk about what some of your top priority is to learn about the business are over the next 9100 days and then just a follow up to the revenue and bookings commentary I appreciate there'll be a lag between where bookings are and where revenue is.
Given more of the business is shifting towards sales assisted how should we think about the delay that could exist from just the change between the two revenue streams. Thank you.
Sure.
So it's been a whirlwind of a three week period to get to an earnings call. So what's great is my first priority was understand the business and try to learn the financials and understand what's moving the business around and so theres, a great, forcing function, having an earnings call to dive deep on the business.
Still have a ton to learn and I really am looking forward to now having the time to spend much more time with all the teams on what Theyre doing and really tie the efforts of the business to those four key drivers of revenue because I believe if we can focus ourselves on each of those and make sure. We're aligning resources and the proper way with the overlay of growing sales assisted more than.
In self serve I think we can really produce some terrific results for the company. So that's really where I'm turning next which is the more strategic dive really work with teams make sure. The investments are at the right place and try to really be an enabler to our growth for the business. The second piece of what I'm working on is much more on the infrastructure side.
We really continue to be in a growth investment profile, that's where we're headed for and so I want to make sure. Our finance organization is set up to scale with that growth I'd like to make sure that we can get that G&A spend as a percentage of revenue down over time.
As we move through this period.
So those are the kind of the main things that I've been thinking about.
You had a second question on bookings versus revenue in both businesses you have longer term contracts. So you do have some lag between the two in terms of revenue growth.
And.
Again, we really think more than half of the bookings exploration is going to come from the sales assistant side, so that'll be the.
Driver to bring us up over time.
Great that's seeing no more questions in queue ill turn it back to Mark for closing comments.
Thank you all for attending our Q1 earnings call and we look forward to speaking with many of you soon.
Thank you.
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