Q3 2022 Provident Financial Holdings Inc Earnings Call

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the third quarter earnings call.

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I'd like to turn the conference over to Craig Blunden. Please go ahead.

Thank you and good morning, everyone. This is Craig Blunden, Chairman and CEO of Provident Financial Holdings.

On the call what Don wouldn't turn us, our president Chief operating and Chief Financial Officer.

Before we begin I have a brief administrative item to address.

Our presentation today discusses the company's business outlook and will include forward looking statements. Those statements include descriptions of management's plans objectives or goals for future operations products or services forecasts of financial or other performance measures and.

Statements about the company's general outlook for economic and business conditions.

We also may make forward looking statements during the question and answer period following management's presentation.

These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today.

Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from any forward looking statement is available from the earnings release that was distributed yesterday.

From the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended June 32021, and from the form 10, Qs and other SEC filings that are filed subsequent to the Form 10-K .

Forward looking statements are effective only Allison date, they are made and the company assumes no obligation to update this information.

To begin with thank you for participating in our call I hope that each of you has had an opportunity to review our earnings release, which describes our third quarter results.

In the most recent quarter, we originated and purchased $94 million of loans held for investment an increase from the $65 $3 million in the prior sequential quarter.

Turning the most recent quarter, we also experienced $53 $6 million of loan principal payments and payoffs, which is down from the $72.5 million in the December 2021 quarter and at the lower end of the quarterly range.

Currently competition remains elevated for loan originations, but it seems that many multifamily and commercial real estate borrowers are once again completing transactions as a result of better general economic conditions.

For the most part our underwriting requirements have returned to pre pandemic criteria, except for certain loan products, such as retail and office, CRE, which remain a bit tighter.

Additionally, our single family and multifamily pipelines are similar in size to last quarter, suggesting our originations and purchases in the June 2022 quarter will fall in the range of recent prior quarters between 60 and $94 million.

For the three months ended March 31, 2022 loans held for investment increased by approximately 5% compared to December 31.

2021 with increases in the single family multifamily commercial real estate and construction loan categories.

Current credit quality is holding up very well and you will note that there are just $2000 of early stage delinquency balances at March 31, 2022. Additionally, nonperforming assets decreased to just $2 million, which is down from the $2 8 million on December 31 22.

'twenty one please note that the decline in nonperforming assets is primary primarily the result of forbearance loans previously downgraded to <unk> non accrual status that were subsequently upgraded to performing status given their satisfactory payment performance and compliance with the terms.

Their forbearance.

As of March 31, 2022, there were no loans in forbearance.

<unk> on March 31, 2021, we ended new request pursuant to our forbearance program as a result, forbearance loans ran their courses provided in their individual forbearance agreements are now primarily classified as performing loans.

A few remaining in TD are nonperforming status.

We recorded a $645000 negative provision for loan losses in the March 2022 quarter.

The allowance for loan losses to gross loans held for investment decreased to 66 basis points at March 31 from.

From 77 basis points on December 31.

You will note that we remain on the incurred loss model and have not adopted Cecil.

It means that our allowance methodology cannot be reasonably compared to seek full adopters.

Our net interest margin compressed by three basis points for the quarter ended March 31 2022.

Paired to the December 2021 sequential quarter as a result of a seven basis point decrease in the average yield on total interest bearing assets, partly offset by a four basis points decrease in the cost of total interest bearing liabilities, notably our average cost of deposits was unchanged.

12 basis points for the quarter ended March 31, 2022 compared to the prior sequential quarter.

Additionally, our borrowing costs decreased by approximately 17 basis points from the March 'twenty to 'twenty two quarter compared to the December 2021 quarter, primarily due to a $39000 prepayment fee in the December quarter that was not replicated in the March 2022 quarter.

The 261% net interest margin this quarter was positively impacted by approximately four basis points as a result of lower net deferred loan costs associated with fewer loan payoffs in the March 2022 quarter in comparison to the average net deferred loan cost amortization.

Of the previous five quarters.

We expect that near term future quarters will also benefit from fewer loan payoffs as a result of higher mortgage interest rates.

In addition.

New loan production is being originated at a higher mortgage interest rates than recent prior quarters and adjustable rate loans in our portfolio are adjusting to higher interest rates in comparison to their existing interest rates also for multifamily and commercial real estate loans were beginning to see some case.

This is where the loans are adjusting above their existing floor rate.

These factors suggest that our net interest margin is poised for near term expansion.

We continue to look for operating efficiencies throughout the company to lower operating expenses are.

Our FTE count on March 31st 2022 increased to 163 compared to 162 FTE on the same date last year.

Very small increase.

You will note that operating expenses have been very stable at approximately $6 $9 million per quarter. After adjusting for the employee retention tax credit that was recognized in the September and June 2021 quarters.

We do not expect a meaningful change to the stable run rate.

Our short term strategy for balance sheet management is unchanged from last quarter.

We believe that leveraging the balance sheet with prudent loan portfolio growth is the best course of action.

We were very successful in execution this quarter with loan origination and purchase volumes at a higher end of the quarterly range and loan payoffs at the lower end of the quarterly range.

The total interest, earning assets composition improved during the quarter with an increase in the average balance of loans receivable and decreases in the average balance of investment securities and interest, earning deposits and total interest bearing liabilities composition also improve with an increase in the average balances of PAH.

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We exceed well capitalized capital ratios by a significant margin, allowing us to execute on our business plan and capital management goals without complications, we believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important in doing so it takes a priority over stock buyback activity.

However, we also recognize that prudent capital returned to shareholders through the stock buyback programs, there's a valid capital management tool.

We repurchased approximately 69000 shares of common stock in the March 2022 quarter under the April 2020 stock repurchase program.

We encourage everyone to review our March 31, Investor presentation posted on our website you will find that we included slides regarding financial metrics asset quality and capital management, which we believe will give you additional insight on our solid financial foundation supporting the future growth of the company.

We will now entertain any questions you may have regarding our financial results.

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We have new couture rally with Piper Sandler one moment.

And I mean, how are you.

Good morning.

Good morning can you share can you share with us loan pricing on new originations in the single family and multifamily books relative to the portfolio rate.

Right, yes, so new originations and single family or in the low to mid fours new originations in multifamily are in the.

Mid fours and new originations in CRE.

Or in the high fours to low fives.

Okay, and then with respect to operating expenses I heard the commentary that you arent expecting a meaningful change to the quarterly run rate are you seeing the effects of wage inflation and if so could you quantify the impact on the expense base.

You know, we're not really seeing a at this time wage inflation per se.

We are seeing that we have more openings than what historically have occurred.

As staff are entertaining.

Entertaining positions with.

Other companies are.

But to the extent that a we are looking at current salaries and employee benefits expense Ah it's relatively stable at this point although I.

I suppose if we were to experience more turnover.

We would see a larger.

Impact with respect to wage inflation.

Currently we're not.

Being a significant component in operating expenses.

Thank you for taking my questions.

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And next we have the line of Tim Coffey Youre open.

Alright, Thanks, good morning, gentlemen, thanks for taking my questions.

And you kind of describe the market dynamics that you're seeing right now that gives you confidence that the pace of kind of net loan growth. We saw this quarter can continue.

Sure Tim I I think the first thing.

What I would describe is that our loan pipelines, particularly in single family and multifamily are are very strong from a historical perspective.

And in fact look very.

Very similar to where we began the quarter began the March quarter at the end of December beginning of January and frankly, it picked up steam as we went through the quarter.

And ended the quarter.

March 31st.

In fact with respect to our origination volume as.

As we think about the March quarter 51 million approximately originated in March of the total $94 million that we did in.

In the quarter of that 94 million as well, we had about $6 4 million.

We purchased so purchases were not as significant a part of that volume so from our perspective, when we think about.

What our origination volume may look like in the June quarter.

Think craigs comments suggested you know of.

A range of $60 million to $94 million, that's what we've been able to do over the last four quarters, our pipelines look strong enough to support the.

Our volume in that range.

But maybe more importantly.

And this has a couple of.

Effects.

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Because of the rise in mortgage interest rates, we're seeing a significant decline in payoff volume.

In the March quarter, It came down to 53 million, which is at the lower end of the range that we've been experiencing over.

Over the last four or five quarters, or so and we would expect that that volume comes down again or those payoffs come down again.

In the June quarter.

And to the extent then that we're able to originate and purchase that you know in our recent range of $60 million to $94 million and payoff volume comes down.

Once again suggests a positive dynamic with respect to growth of the loan portfolio in the June quarter.

The second part of the consideration with respect to lower loan pay offs is that our net deferred loan cost amortization will decline as well because net deferred loan costs get accelerated when the loan pays off so to the <unk>.

Payoffs come down are the component in net interest income and net deferred loan cost amortization will also come down and the meaningful impact of that is that net interest margin will improve as a result of that.

Right, Yeah, exactly and then can you quantify the impact to net interest income on just the higher rates are not necessarily the deferred amortization.

Well, we normally don't describe or quantify or provide guidance.

On that basis, what I would.

Suggest as we think about the June quarter.

There are a number of positive factors that will positively impact net interest income.

And net interest margin one of the things are are the.

Loans in our portfolio that are subject to repricing.

In the June quarter, we have approximately $67 million of loans that will reprice and they will reprice upward from their current interest rate.

Additionally in the September .

22 quarter, there are approximately $107 million of loans that are subject to repricing. They will also reprice upward based upon current interest rates and worthy indices are.

Supporting those loans.

On top of that with respect to positive factors, we have interest, earning deposits that are going to be yielding a higher interest rates.

They're currently yielding higher rates than where they were in most of the March quarter as a result of the fed rise or.

Fed funds increase in March.

We will have fed action I expect in the May meeting and into June meetings, as well that will suggest that.

What we were earning on interest earning deposits will increase we also have the cash flows coming in from investment securities to.

To those the extent that we see those cash flows come in we're.

We're not redeploying currently and investment securities were redeploying.

In loans and those loan yields are far higher than where those investment security yields currently are so those cash flows provide.

And impact with respect to a positive margin.

I've already discussed lower net deferred loan costs.

You know you can do the math on that I think we had 496000 of net deferred loan costs in the March quarter, if that number comes down which I expect will occur in the June quarter, because payoffs are going to come down.

You can estimate what that will do with respect to margin, but it's meaningful and then to the extent we have new loan production coming in and are growing the loan portfolio as I've already described the yields and those loans are in the 4% buckets.

Call it mid fours across all product lines.

And that's a meaningful.

Increase to where loans were coming on in.

In the March in prior quarters.

Okay.

That's great detail Jonathan I appreciate that if you dig into the.

The interest earning deposits.

Do you have any sense of what the total deposit beta might look like because of the cycle.

Well for us.

I think if we think about our retail deposit franchise.

We historically have had.

Yeah at the lower end of the range with respect to deposit beta on our retail deposits, we would expect that.

To continue I'm, not going to forecast what percentage of that.

It might look like as it relates to the fed funds rate, but we would expect as well that we would be at the lower end of the range with respect to retail deposit beta.

Where we might see.

Some pressure with respect to our deposits or to the extent that we're growing our total assets such that our retail deposit growth is not keeping up with that we would be accessing the wholesale markets.

Either brokered Cds.

Federal home loan bank advances, perhaps to the extent we're interested in.

Tamping down our interest rate risk sensitivity in a rising rate market and at the margin than any growth with respect to any loan growth.

That is being funded with respect to wholesale funding such as broker deposits and federal home loan bank advances would work to increase our overall cost of liabilities, but we don't think that that is going to be as meaningful as the increase we're going.

C and our interest bearing assets.

Okay.

Okay. Okay. That's helpful and then whats the implication for the tax rate.

We guide or our effective tax rate is 29.56% and then there are.

Every quarter.

Every year some items that come in in that Oh, well worked either lowered the effective rate or increase the effective worried a bit but again, our combined effective tax rate is 29.56%.

Okay, Great. That's my questions. Thank you very much.

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Alright, well I appreciate everyone joining us on our quarterly call.

And we look forward to talking to all of you again next quarter. Thanks for your participation.

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