Q1 2022 Doma Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you operator, good afternoon, everybody and thank you for joining Dennis first quarter 2022 earnings Conference call.
Earlier today <unk> issued a press release announcing its first quarter results, which is also available at Investor <unk> Com.
Leading today's discussion will be done with founder and Chief Executive Officer, Maxim Cough, and asking financial Officer, Mike Smith.
Following managements prepared remarks, we will open up the call to questions.
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And with that I'll turn the call over to Mack Sims CEO of Doma.
Thank you good.
Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us to review our first quarter of 2022 results before we get started I would like to formally welcome Mike Smith as our interim Chief Financial Officer as communicated in April Gnomon Ahmed will be stepping down as CFO effective may 15th for personal reasons and we are thrilled to have someone of Mike's caliber and pedigree ready to step into this interim role.
Mike joined US in August of last year, as our Chief Accounting Officer, having previously served in that same role for several other public companies like I've also spent time as interim CFO of Banc of California, and they went through a CFO transition in 2019.
During today's call in keeping with previous calls I'm going to focus on three main themes first we have continued to take share in the U S title and escrow market led by our <unk> intelligence, driven Doma intelligence platform, which offers a better faster more affordable mortgage closing experience for lenders and their customers completing refinance transactions.
And we've done so against the backdrop of a dramatic shift in the U S mortgage market, one where mortgage interest rates rose in Q1 at the fastest pace in 2008 years, all while housing inventory remained at extraordinarily low levels.
Second we believe this shift in the market is likely the beginning not be end of a trend toward lower overall mortgage volumes are made more challenging circumstances for buying and selling homes.
Just on this conviction, we have decided to re prioritize the deployment of our capital towards a narrower list are primarily home purchase focused strategic initiatives.
Finally to ensure that we execute with high conviction on solutions for the purchase market, we have meaningfully reduced our expense base for the part of our business that has previously focused more on refinance.
What's more we raised a significant amount of cash when we took the company public and we will look to preserve it and only invest in core areas of the business that will give us sustainable long term differentiation.
Put simply we are fully aware that a significant shift in our industry has increased the importance of delivering value for the home purchase market and we are fortunate to have the balance sheet strength to be able to continue making long term strategic investments to change the way that homes are bought and sold we will deliver that value in a way that more conservatively deploys investment dollars.
Allowing us to ensure we remain on the same previously communicated timeline to profitability, we're confident that on the way we've rebalanced, our focus will enable us to emerge stronger and more steadfast on the other side of these challenging market conditions.
I'll now provide some more color on each of these three main themes and after that I will turn the call over to Mike who will go through the details of our Q1 financial results and discuss our revised guidance for FY 'twenty two.
Let's start by reviewing how the mortgage market and our business performed in the first quarter of 2022.
In the first quarter, the mortgage market rapidly readjusted with refinance transactions down industry wide by 63% year over year for the mortgage bankers Association. Additionally.
Additionally, purchase activity as measured by the MBA Weekly application survey has been much lower than expected for this time of year with weekly mortgage applications to purchase a home recently declining as much as 17% year over year.
Suggesting a much greater slowdown in the purchase market than anticipated.
Based on the recent trend in rates, it's likely that we will see a continued negative impact on the overall mortgage market in January the average monthly 30 year fixed rate per the Freddie Mac weekly primary mortgage market survey was 345% during the quarter rates rose quickly, reaching a daily high of 495% on March 28th and most recently.
Heading 564% on May six ads per mortgage news daily.
This rapid increase in mortgage rates has been greater and faster than any industry forecast had predicted factoring in rapidly rising inflation levels high home price appreciation and historically tight housing inventory the strains on housing affordability are increasingly concerning.
According to Black Knight if rates were to rise just 50 basis points more or home prices were to rise just 5% more home affordability would be the lowest on record.
We think the market should be bracing for an extended period of unfavorable conditions.
Now turning to our business performance in Q1, while the total mortgage market declined 42% year over year, our total market share, which is still very small grew by 40% year over year from 1% in <unk> 21 to one 4% and 122.
Against the industry is 63% decline in refinance a refinance closed orders, which includes performance from both our local and enterprise channels were down 20% year over year our.
Our outperformance in refinance versus the industry was driven by market share gains with our <unk> 22 share of U S. Refi market now at two 5% versus one 1% and $1 21.
Driving this growth and market share is the strong adoption of our Doma intelligence technology by our referral partners in our enterprise channel, where our closed orders grew 38% year over year.
In Q1, we added 11, new Blender referral partners, who represent both bank and non bank originators and saw some new state expansion with select partners.
While we fully expect our market share gains and refinances to continue over the next several years the refinance market in general is projected to be down 60% to 70% in 2022.
Since few can be immune to that type of decline, we expect a refinance order volumes to continue to experience year over year declines for the remainder of this year.
Our closed orders and home purchase which today are sourced solely through our local channel and where the majority of those volumes are not yet on the Doma intelligence platform were down 13% year over year, driven by lower close rates from orders opened in Q4, and a few purchase markets in the Western U S.
This temporary decline in close rates was a result of some turnover of sales in escrow officers in select markets as we transform those branches from traditional modes of customer acquisition and fulfillment of title and escrow to a more digitally led acquisition and a model of tech enabled fulfillment coupled with the natural lag in new sales hires hitting full productivity as.
As we embarked on this transformational effort to migrate our local purchase transactions onto our domain intelligence platform, we knew it would entail making some necessary changes within our local branches and so these impacts were generally expected and do not affect our goal of getting substantially all of our purchase volume onto Doma intelligence by the end of next year.
As a reminder, our market share and purchase is less than 1% as of <unk>.
Despite the challenges and headwinds the current mortgage market presents we expect to grow our purchase market share steadily over the next few years as we further shift our focus of investments towards purchase and aggressively deploy our doma intelligence technology to this part of the market.
We've seen this play out successfully before with refinance transactions in our enterprise channel.
That said, while it is still early in the year and things could always change for the better we believe that the challenges that the mortgage market experienced in Q1 will continue through at least the remainder of 2022, which brings me to the second key theme of today's call. We are refocusing resources from other areas of the company to a narrower set of strategic initiatives that will ensure we rise to solve.
The biggest pain points in a purchase focused market. While also keeping the company on our previously communicated timeline to achieve adjusted EBIT profitability in 2023.
We remain confident in our overall strategy to disrupt traditional title and escrow.
Because in a rising interest rate environment, where the market shifts dramatically to purchase mortgage originations every dollar counts. This means that all parties along the residential real estate value chain from lenders to real estate professionals to consumers become significantly more sensitive to having a better faster and more affordable title and closing experience, which is of course.
Our core value proposition.
Current market environment confirms that we have been focused on the right areas in terms of the long term investments that we started to make last year on home purchase and that we are accelerating this year.
As we disclosed during our previous earnings call in February we started moving purchase volume in our local channel to the Doma intelligence platform near the end of last year, we continue to make steady progress on this migration and are focused on optimizing for the best possible closing experience for the homeowner.
In addition to our efforts in our local channel. We have also shifted resources to accelerate development of a broader set of solutions, which provide us with more entry points into order acquisition for the purchase market beyond the real estate agent, who has historically been our primary target.
Refocusing our resources on a narrower set of priorities means we've also had to reexamine our expense base, which brings me to the third theme of today's call. We've recently made significant reductions to our cost structure across every part of the company and service are enabling us to execute more nimbly and preserving our healthy cash position in order to align our cost structure with reduced.
<unk> volume and our investment in moving purchase transactions onto the Doma intelligence platform last week, we took an action to significantly lower our expense base by reducing our workforce by 15%.
This reduction in force, primarily impacted our fulfillment organization of the 310 total impacted associates 259, where associates within our fulfillment organization, representing an overall, 28% reduction to that group.
We expect that this reduction will result in a charge of $4 million in the second quarter and will generate annualized cost savings of $30 million. This will help protect our cash runway and ensure that doma stays financially nimble.
Additionally, with regard to our previously stated plans to expand into adjacent markets such as home warranty and appraisal, we both restructured and significantly streamlined our capital deployment for these two areas and have started to explore partnerships as a means to derisk our speed to market.
While we believe we've taken the right actions to respond to an extraordinary market movement over the past 90 days, we will continue to match our cost structure and our pace of investment to areas that we believe will drive the most long term value for shareholders. We will do this the way we have since we started the company nearly six years ago investing confidently in areas of the business that we know will help transform an industry.
It is long overdue for change, while prudently navigating cyclical or seasonal market dynamics inherent in this industry.
In closing I want to emphasize that the very challenges we're facing on the macro front are one of the strongest and most compelling reasons doma exists for far too long companies in the title and escrow industry not to mention the broader U S mortgage market have put off making investments in modern day technology to make the closing process simpler and more affordable because it would be difficult for them to <unk>.
<unk> preemptively ahead of and through the ups and downs of the mortgage market. We believe that doma is better equipped than anyone else in our industry to handle these challenges due to our technology first approach with Doma intelligence and the superior value customers and referral partners derived from a product.
It is during challenging times that the best companies stay firmly committed to the areas of investment that will define their story and ours is a story of driving change through technology.
And perhaps it goes without saying, but the story wouldn't be possible without the incredibly hard work and dedication of our team working tirelessly to deliberate transformed experience of buying or selling a home in an incident I want to close by thanking the team for remaining committed to executing our plan to realize our vision I'll now turn it over to Mike Smith to walk in more detail through our financial results.
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Thanks, Max and good afternoon, everyone I'm delighted to talk to you today as <unk> acting Chief Financial Officer.
I'm very excited to fill this interim role having done so at a prior public bank and look forward to working more closely with Max and our leadership team.
Let's begin by recapping, our financial results for the first quarter.
In first quarter 'twenty, two we reported revenue on a GAAP basis of $112 million down 12% from the first quarter in 2021.
As a reminder, GAAP revenue includes the portion of third party agent premiums that Domo does not retain so we focus on <unk> retained premiums and fees or RPF, which excludes the premium retained by third party agents.
We believe this is a much better representation of delmas underlying top line performance.
With this in mind RPF was $52 million in the first quarter of 2022 or 10% lower than last year when refinancing activity at that time was robust driven by historically unprecedented low rates.
As Max mentioned, our refinance closed orders were down 20%.
And our purchase closed orders were down 13% year over year and both of these trends impacted RPF and the first quarter while.
While the lower overall mortgage market activity negatively impacted our topline growth this quarter. Our total market share grew from 1% in first quarter 'twenty, one to one 4% in first quarter of 2022.
As we anticipate the mortgage market tightening further in the months ahead, we believe we will be able to continue increasing our market share in both the refinance and purchase markets as our value proposition becomes even more attractive to lenders and real estate professionals, who are looking to close loans faster and minimize costs.
This favorable market share dynamic will help offset some of the expected volume pressures associated with the decline in mortgage market.
Shifting now to profitability. Our primary measure is adjusted gross profit, which was $10 million in the first quarter of 2022 down 64% year over year.
Adjusted gross profit as a percentage of RPF was 20% in first quarter of <unk> 22, compared to 51% in the first quarter of 'twenty one.
The primary driver of the decline in adjusted gross profit as a percentage of RPF was excess fulfillment staff to support anticipated growth and the migration of transactions to the Doma intelligence platform a.
Dynamically previewed in our in our prior two earnings calls.
Also affecting profitability was a 16% decline in total closed orders and a higher mix of enterprise transactions, which carry a significantly lower price point versus our local channel.
We believe that the cost reduction actions that we undertook last week, which meaningfully reduce our expense base on a go forward basis.
We'll address the decline in adjusted gross profit that we experienced this quarter.
Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was negative $45 million compared to negative $3 million a year ago.
The year over year decrease was driven by both the investments we made in the fourth quarter of last year and customer acquisition research and development and other G&A in support of our operating as a public company as well as the investments we highlighted we would be making at the beginning of this year to accelerate accelerate the expansion of our differentiated product and case.
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We now believe more than ever that it is strategically important for us to continue to invest in growing our footprint in the purchase market to drive long term growth and margin improvement and we're balancing those investments with full recognition that we need to manage expenses to remain centered on our path to profitability.
We expect this quarter to be the largest adjusted EBITDA loss for the year with subsequent quarters, improving as we more aggressively manage expenses.
As Max mentioned earlier, we are firmly committed to getting to adjusted EBITDA positive in 2023.
Which takes me to my next Tropic prioritizing the deployment of our capital.
Last year as part of going public we raised a significant amount of critical new capital to fuel, our strategic plan and position us to deliver long term sustainable value for our shareholders.
We will be protecting this capital and prioritizing its used to focus on our core business and more specifically on our accelerated penetration into the purchase market.
In this current environment, our investments and dome intelligence solutions for the home purchase market become even more critical.
Nonetheless, given our outlook for the mortgage market overall in 2022, we are being prudent in our spend in other parts of the business to preserve our healthy cash position and ensure we have more than enough runway to deliver on our plan.
This is entailed making some tough decisions, which have included re scoping our entry into the appraisal and home warranty adjacent markets to make better use of our partner resources and provide better returns on investment.
In addition, we've taken measures to rightsize, our cost structure, which included a reduction in force last week.
We believe these measures are necessary and will better position us to adapt to both the challenges and opportunities that arise in the future.
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I would like to wrap up my prepared remarks, with our updated guidance for full year 2022.
Given the faster than expected rise in mortgage rates and the likelihood that they may continue to increase for the remainder of this year, we expect mortgage volumes for both purchase and refinance to continue to deteriorate further than today's industry forecast.
As such we think it is prudent to reduce our full year 2022, Rps guidance to a range of $220 million to $240 million.
Despite this more muted top line outlook, we are confident in our ability to better control the profitability side of the equation and we are taking meaningful actions to protect our bottom line results because of this we expect to exit the year at or near the same adjusted EBITDA run rate is in our original guidance keeping us on a similar overall time.
And trajectory on our path to profitability.
However, given the effects of the rapid market deterioration, we are expecting leading to higher than anticipated losses in the first half of the year. We are revising our full year adjusted EBITDA range to negative $100 million to $120 million.
I will now pass the call back to Max for closing remarks, before we open the call to questions.
Thanks, Mike and thanks, again to the entire doma team for their dedication and focus on executing our vision to make buying or selling a home faster more efficient and more affordable operator, we're now ready for questions.
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Our first question comes from the line of Matt <unk> from JMP you may begin.
Hey, Thanks, good afternoon.
Hey, Max I was hoping you.
I was hoping you could give us some color on.
You guys.
Harder into the local market and specifically purchase transactions just kind of the feedback loop there what the feedback has been from <unk>.
The producers of the business and so forth and kind of just what your assessment has been of kind of how that intelligence platform has.
Transported from kind of the proof of concept that you had on the enterprise refi side too you know.
What youre doing on the local market side that has a higher purchase contingent.
Sure Yeah. So look in terms of feedback that we've gotten from the local businesses. We've started this transition I think it's fair to say that the majority of folks in the local business are really excited about this.
And.
Super supportive of this.
This move of local transactions to the dome intelligence platform.
And you.
Keep in mind that we already migrated a meaningful amount of refinance volume from our local <unk>.
Division.
Over the past year to the Doma intelligence platform. So we kind of prime the pump a little bit with that with that first phase of migrating refinance volume.
And so we're really now focused on.
Making sure that we get things right.
And I think you mentioned.
Ed.
Iterative reaction from.
From these folks I think it's a good phrase that were iteratively taking feedback from the people in these local offices, where we're moving volume and incorporating that feedback to make sure that we get it right.
<unk> rolled this out versus onboarding too quickly at the expense of quality.
Okay, Great and then just just one other one kind of a smaller item in the quarter, but just curious to get your thoughts on.
I saw the recent announcement by Fannie Mae about allowing the use of attorney opinion letters as an alternate to title insurance in certain limited circumstances, what what's what's your view on that and do you see that as really being.
<unk> in anyway.
Sure, Yes, so Fannie did announced that they will be accepting and alternative title option, which is these these attorney opinion letters and it's probably worth mentioning that.
Freddie Mac introduced a similar concept a few years back I think.
It didn't have much take so it doesn't really present.
Have a challenge to our product and strategy.
I will say that as really positive about this is that we are generally happy to see Fannie and the <unk> moving in the direction of seeking more efficient and affordable title solutions, particularly for folks who are first time homebuyers.
And particularly against the backdrop of a market where the cost of housing is going up dramatically I think that movement towards solutions like that actually reinforces the value of our domain intelligence products and the reality that we're best positioned to deliver these solutions against a framework of a faster more efficient and more affordable.
So.
We were actually encouraged to see that.
Fannie and <unk> are really starting to adopt more of these more of these streamline solutions.
Alright, Thank you very much for the color I appreciate it.
Our next question comes from the line of Tom.
Tom White from D. A Davidson your line is open.
Great. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions two if I could.
Max So doma hasn't yet kind of experienced a protracted downturn in the U S housing market and if thats potentially sort of where we're headed can you maybe talk a little bit about how your business is built to withstand that and adapt.
In the event that volumes really dry up and potentially we see elevated loss ratios entitled and stuff like that.
Sure absolutely so.
I think we've reacted pretty quickly to what we see as a.
Really a longer term market downturn.
As we've mentioned meaningfully reducing our expense base.
And now re prioritizing the deployment of our capital.
While still obviously staying committed to the areas of investment that we think are super important to execute our vision and drive future growth and I think that the decisions that we've made to support the business and our same previously communicated path to profitability are the right ones that said, if we see further.
Deterioration in the mortgage market, we will respond accordingly.
And you mentioned title claims.
In periods of economic decline.
And when the housing market get stressed.
You do typically see an increase in title claims from more normal market scenarios.
But they still represent a relatively small percentage in comparison to premiums written I think just for reference.
In the 2008 2009 time period, the claims loss rate for our underwriting business increased from an average of roughly 3% prior to that period I think right around 7%. So.
I think that with a with a healthy margin a higher claims loss rate wouldn't jeopardize our underwriting businesses ability to continue generating profits.
And then the last thing I'll mention that I think is really different this time around is important.
Is that mortgage underwriting standards have really significantly strengthened since the last <unk>.
Mortgage crisis.
We don't think that a potential market downturn will be similar to that one and kind of the behavior of the underlying credit quality and as such it Shouldnt result in nearly as many delinquencies.
And pull through the claims activity.
And then again just it should be noted that we have historically outperformed the industry.
On our loss ratio even in times of economic decline. So I think we're we are certainly prepared to take further action. If we see further deterioration, but we feel like the actions we've taken recently in a more conservative outlook or the right approach to take.
Okay, Great and then just a quick follow up with regards to the to the refocusing of resources in the rationalizing of the cost structure can you maybe comment on how that might impact the timetable for the full rollout of of film intelligence to the local platform I guess when I first read the press release.
I hope that maybe that meant sort of an accelerated timetable, but I think you mentioned, maybe a full rollout by the end of next year. So maybe just kind of walk through that a little bit.
Sure, Yes, so just to be clear, we have re prioritized and redeployed uses of capital. So that we stay on track for the same previously communicated timeline to getting the majority of our purchase volume onto Doma intelligence by the end of next year.
So these things are connected in the sense that we felt that it was most important given the current market backdrop.
Trying to take a more conservative approach and make more prudent use of our capital to make sure that we were still on track to achieve that that originally communicated goal.
I think you mentioned, whether it would be possible to use some of the re prioritization of redeploying capital to accelerate that timetable.
I really think that in this current macro housing backdrop.
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We should just be more prudent in our use of capital.
And be careful in how we're deploying that to achieve our same previously communicated timeline and if we were going to accelerate that timeline frankly, it would mean a higher deployment of significant upfront investments, which just against the current backdrop, we don't think.
Is worth the risk. So we believe now more than ever that we should just be carefully managing our expenses, while still sticking to the same previously communicated timeline that we that we mentioned in our last earnings call.
Okay I appreciate the color. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason <unk> from Oppenheimer.
Line is open.
So a big theme in with home buying now with just how hard is to buy home and you're seeing all these businesses kind of startup businesses.
Adding real estate businesses, adding businesses to like pre fund offers right and do anything.
Get the get the consumer to.
Being in a position to purchase and do it faster so one.
Yes.
Is there a way to like leverage that.
To benefit Doma, and then number two to the extent that there has been.
Can you talk about it.
Bringing the dome intelligence platform to local.
Like obviously this was a transition I mean would you say like.
This is taking a little longer or you had some issues or like you knew this would be a transition and it would take time.
Yeah. So let me let me answer those questions Jason in reverse order on the on the second question you asked I would say.
We knew this would take time and we are making good progress. So I don't think theres anything, particularly out of the ordinary there.
And to the contrary I would say that.
Kind of related to Tom's question, a little bit.
It is because it's important that we get this right that we felt it was prudent to re prioritize our use of capital to make sure that we get that right.
So that's the answer the second question on the first question.
It is a really.
Astute observation and it's one that we have also had a lot of dialogue about internally and the short answer is that we do feel that we are uniquely positioned.
This V. How we are interacting with both real estate agents and consumers, who are buying and selling homes to.
Potentially.
Take advantage of opportunities too.
Work with or or maybe even some day offer a solution that could ah.
Allow those consumers to transact.
More efficiently and more competitively.
And I think we're.
We want to make sure that we're thoughtful about how we approach.
Either participating in the solution that problem or working with others to solve that problem because as you mentioned there are a number of other companies out there.
Folks that are called power buyers or power lenders. For example that are finding creative ways to solve the pain point that is the difficulty of coming up with the cash to buy a home in this market or remain competitive in that process.
So long winded way of saying.
There likely are ways for us to capitalize on our significant scale and our place in the transaction interacting with customers.
The offer of solutions there, but.
Still we are still at the stage, where we're evaluating those opportunities.
And can you give an update if and when we've identified something to do.
Thank you.
Once again Thats star one for a question Star one.
Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Gilbert from <unk>. Your line is open.
Hi, Thanks, guys.
So I guess, given the re prioritization of capital.
Can you.
Give us your updated thoughts on the 2022 and 2023 market share targets and then also how we should be thinking about.
Closed order growth in the enterprise business.
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I believe that we've just now this quarter started breaking out or our market share our total market share.
Again increased from 1% in <unk> 21 to one 4% in <unk> 'twenty two.
I think to speak to the two.
To the two dimensions that you asked about on.
On enterprise clearly that's that part of our business is substantially all refinance.
So.
Broadly speaking, we expect to continue taking share in that market by virtue of the fact that we are adding new what we call referral partners. These are primarily bank and non bank mortgage originators and we added 11 of them in Q1.
We expect to continue taking share they're both by adding new referral partners and expanding our share of wallet with those referral partners, we're seeing great value from the solution that said the refinance market overall is expected to continue declining right. So while we expect to continue taking share it will be taking share on the refinance side again.
The declining market and then on the purchase side.
Our goal and our expectation is to.
To accelerate our.
Our share capture in that market as we bring more and more of our local volume onto the dome intelligence platform and as we start to see more of the sales team.
We've made a significant investment in over the last call. It six months come to fruition. So we've hired a pretty significant number of new sales folks.
And we put a fair amount of investment into a broader kind of customer acquisition improvement strategy not only around enabling those salespeople better but also in generating and converting leads with that sales team better and as we see more of those folks ramp up to productivity. We would expect that to also have a positive impact on taking share in a purchase market.
Okay, Great and I guess, along those lines can you share April trends, just in terms of purchase and refinance.
Order volume and then also.
The extent to which the disruption that you saw in close rates has.
Proven temporary or is that still an issue in <unk>.
Yes, So let me answer the second one first and then maybe I'll turn it over to Mike to talk broadly about.
What we would expect to see I would say again from an overall growth perspective in the quarter. We obviously don't break out monthly open or closed order trends.
But to answer the second part of your question.
The decline in close rates on purchase orders opened in Q4 that we saw in Q1.
Really was.
The result of more of an isolated event of attrition of some salespeople in escrow officers and a couple of key western markets. So we don't expect for that to continue we think we're mostly through that and again.
We've hired a lot of really awesome, new people both in sales and actually also in.
Astro as well who are more aligned with the vision of the company and what we're trying to do.
So that we do expect to be a limited one time event, Mike do you want to comment on just overall expected growth in Q2 trend versus Q1.
I know, we don't get into monthly.
Absolutely Max Yes, I mean, we've seen some really nice green shoots here in April in Q2 and of course, we don't break it out but.
One thing I might look back at it. So if we look back at Q1, and we look at our adjusted EBITDA loss, we expect that to be really the largest of the year.
And we see we expect to see moderate.
Sustained growth in our RPF over the next couple of quarters, including Q2.
Okay, great. Thanks very much.
Yes.
I'm not showing any further questions in the queue I'd like to turn the call back over to Max for any closing remarks.
Thanks, Yes.
All for attending and look forward to giving you an update on our progress next quarter.
And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating you may now disconnect everyone have a great day.
Okay.
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