Q1 2022 Conduent Inc Earnings Call
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Operator: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Giles Goodburn, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you Giles, you may begin.
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Giles Goodburn: Thank you operator, and thanks everyone for joining us today to discuss Conduent's first quarter 2022 earnings. We hope you had a chance to review our press release issued earlier this afternoon.
Giles Goodburn: Joining me today is Cliff Skelton, our President and CEO, and Steve Wood, our CFO. Today's agenda is as follows. Cliff will provide an overview of our results and a business update. Steve will then walk you through the financials for the quarter, as well as provide a financial outlook. After that, we will take your questions.
Giles Goodburn: This call is being webcast. A copy of the slides used during this call, as well as the press release, were filed with the SEC this afternoon on Form 8-K.
Giles Goodburn: This information, as well as the detailed financial metrics package, are available on the Investor Relations section of the Conduent website.
Giles Goodburn: During this call, we may make statements that are forward-looking. These forward-looking statements reflect management's current beliefs, assumptions, and expectations and are subject to a number of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. Information concerning these factors is included in Conduent's annual report on Form 10-K, filed with the SEC. We do not intend to update these forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future event or developments, except as required by law.
Speaker 4: Information concerning these factors is included in Conduent's annual report on Form 10-K, filed with the SEC. We do not intend to update these forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future event or developments, except as required by law.
Speaker 3: We do not intend to update these forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future event or developments, except as required by law.
Giles Goodburn: The information presented today includes non-GAAP financial measures. Because these measures are not calculated in accordance with the US GAAP, they should be viewed in addition to, and not as a substitute for the company's reported results.
Giles Goodburn: For more information regarding definitions of our non-GAAP measures and how we use them, as well as the limitations to their usefulness for comparative purposes, please see our press release.
Giles Goodburn: And now I'd like to turn the call over to Cliff.
Clifford A. Skelton: Thanks, Giles. Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Conduent's Q1 earnings review. We appreciate everyone joining us today.
Clifford A. Skelton: Turning to slide 4, you're going to hear several important things from us today. Starting with the fact that we had a solid quarter. Steve Wood is going to take you through the details, but we are in $960 million in revenue, $107 million in EBITDA, and achieved an 11.1% EBITDA margin. Importantly, it was one of the best, in fact, the best first quarter since [inaudible] for total contract value sales at $464 million, up 32% year-over-year and 58% sequentially. We also had improvement in annual contract value, which we'll see when we get into the details in a minute.
Speaker 5: Starting with the fact that we had a solid quarter.
Speaker 5: stevewardard is going to take you through the details.
Speaker 5: But we are in $96 million in revenue, $107 million in EBITDA and achieved an 11% EBITDA margin.
Speaker 6: Importantly, it was one of the best, in fact the best first quarter since SP, for total contract value sales at $464 million.
Speaker 5: Up 32% year-over-year and 58% sequentially.
Speaker 5: We also had improvement in annual contract value, which we'll see when we get into the details in a minute.
Clifford A. Skelton: You can see on slide five that we also received a lot of recognition, including, but not limited to, GM supplier of the year for the second year in a row and other great accolades from advisory firms and other industry analysts. This recognition demonstrates the significant improvement we made across all three of our business segments and the company in general.
Speaker 5: Including but not limited to, GM supplier the year for the second year in a row and other great faccolades from advisory firms and other industry analysts.
Speaker 5: This recognition demonstrates the significant improvement we made across all three of our business segments and the company in general.
Clifford A. Skelton: After Steve's detailed presentation on the financials, I'm going to take you through the fine points of what you may have read in one of our press releases that we have decided to separate our transportation business. Our expectation at this point is that we will focus on spend versus sale.
Speaker 5: I'm going to take you through the F points of what you may have read in one of our press releases.
Speaker 5: That we have decided to separate our transportation business.
Speaker 5: Our expectation at this point is that we will focus on spend versus sale.
Clifford A. Skelton: I'm going to talk about the rationale for this decision. We're approaching this effort through a very disciplined set of routines around both transportation and the other two remaining segments of Conduent in what will become two public companies. We're excited about what we think will be a great outcome for both entities.
Speaker 5: We're approaching this effort through a very disciplined set of routines around both transportation and the other two remaining segments of conduit in what will become two public companies.
Speaker 5: We're excited about what we think will be a great outcome for both entities.
Clifford A. Skelton: So with that, let me turn it over to Steve and let him take you through the details of the financial and sales results for the quarter, reaffirm our full-year outlook for 2022, and then I'll come back and talk more about transportation and the separation. Of course, we'll take questions at the end. So Steve why don't you take it from here.
Speaker 5: Of course we'll take questions at the end, So Steve want to take it from here.
Stephen Henry Wood: Thanks, Cliff. As we have done in the past, we are reporting both GAAP and non-GAAP numbers. I would like to point out that certain non-GAAP measures adjust for the Midas divestiture. This is similar to past practice. The reconciliations are in our filings and in the appendix of the presentation. Let's turn to slide six and discuss our key sales metrics.
Speaker 8: As we have done in the past, we are reporting both GAAP and non-GAAP numbers. I would like to point out that certain non-GAAP measures adjust for the Midas divestiture.
Speaker 8: This is similar to past practice.
Speaker 8: The reconciliations are in our filings and in the appendix of the presentation.
Speaker 8: Let's turn to slide six and discuss our key sales metrics.
Stephen Henry Wood: As Cliff mentioned, we had our strongest first quarter for overall TCV sales attainment, a 32% increase over Q1 2021. It was also up sequentially 58% versus Q4 2021.
Speaker 8: A 32% increase over Q1 2021.
Speaker 8: It was also up sequentially 58% versus Q4 2021.
Stephen Henry Wood: Both our transportation and commercial segments were up strongly, both year-over-year and sequentially. Our government segment was slightly lower, but its pipeline of late-stage deals remains strong.
Speaker 8: Our government segment was slightly lower, but its pipeline of late-stage deals remains strong.
Stephen Henry Wood: New business ARR was also up 14% over Q1 2021. In 2022, we launched an enhanced integrated sales model to optimize the balance between near-term and long-term revenue needs and changed our sales compensation models to further incentivize these outcomes, with a primary focus on annual contract value.
Speaker 9: In 2022, we launched an enhanced integrated sales model to optimize the balance between near-term and long-term revenue needs.
Speaker 8: And changed our sales compensation models to further incentivize these outcomes, with a primary focus on annual contract value.
Stephen Henry Wood: As a reminder, we define ACV as total contract value, or TCV divided by term. While our ACV reduced 20% as compared to 2021, this impact was driven by the one-time government stimulus volumes in Q1 2021, as well as another one-time volume item for a large client that we no longer record in our sales metrics. Removing these presents the more apples-to-apples view of our ACV. Under this view, ACV grew 12% as compared to Q1 2021.
Speaker 5: While our ACV reduced 20% as compared to 20 thousand and twenty-one.
Speaker 8: This impact was driven by the onetime government stimulus volumes in Q1 2021, as well as another onetime volume item for a large client that we no longer record in our sales metrics.
Speaker 10: Removing these present the more apples to appless view of our ACV.
Speaker 8: Under this view, ACV grew 12% as compared to Q1 2021.
Stephen Henry Wood: The sales metric trend on the following slide has the same breakout, so you can see the upcoming effect in Q2. The net ARR activity metric, a combined measure of wins, losses, pricing effects, and other contractual changes was positive for the sixth quarter.
Speaker 11: The net ARR activity metric, our combined a measure of wins losses, pricing effects and other contractual changes was positive for the sixth quarter.
Stephen Henry Wood: As a reminder, this trailing 12-month measure does not predict the timing of revenue, but it is based on the timing of notification and, as such, will fluctuate from quarter-to-quarter. A full definition of this metric is covered in the appendix of our presentation.
Speaker 8: But it is based on the timing of notification and, as such, will fluctuate from quarter-to-quarter.
Speaker 8: A full definition of this metric is covered in the appendix of our presentation.
Stephen Henry Wood: Turning to slide 7, our trends on new business ACV and ARR are encouraging. And our NRR has returned to more normalized levels now we have run off the effect of government stimulus. Our average contract length in the quarter was 3.8 years, which is somewhere near our long-term average.
Speaker 11: And our NR has returned to more normalized levels. Now we have run off the effect of government stimulus.
Speaker 11: Our average contract length in the quarter was three point eight years, which is somewhere near our long-term average.
Stephen Henry Wood: We had another busy first quarter, renewing 936 million of TCV, with several large clients renewing their agreements and demonstrating their satisfaction and a strong commitment to Conduent as their business process partner. As we have noted before in prior calls, individual quarters can have significant variation due to timing of renewals. Now let's turn to slide eight to discuss our Q1 2022 financial results.
Speaker 8: As we have noted before in prior calls, individual quarters can have significant variation due to timing of renewals.
Speaker 8: Now let's turn to Slide eight and discuss our Q1 2022 financial results.
Stephen Henry Wood: Adjusted revenue for Q1 2022 was 960 million, as compared to one point zero one billion in Q1 2021, down 5% year-over-year and slightly ahead of our internal expectations for the quarter.
Stephen Henry Wood: The year-over-year headwind from the roll-off of government stimulus in the quarter was 27 million. Removing that, the reduction would have been 2.3% year-over-year.
Speaker 10: Removing that, the reduction would have been 2% year-over-year.
Stephen Henry Wood: Adjusted EBITDA was 107 million for the quarter, up slightly as compared to 105 million in Q1 2021, and the adjusted EBITDA margin of 11.1% was up 70 basis points year-over-year as compared to Q1 2021.
Stephen Henry Wood: Q1 2022 contained a one-time item related to the recovery of approximately 14 million of defense costs as a portion of the settlement with our insurance carriers related to a previously disclosed legal matter. Removing this item, which was not part of how we guided the adjusted EBITDA and margin for the quarter, would have resulted in a 9.7% margin, slightly better than how we guided in our recent 2021 full-year earnings call. Let's now turn to slide nine and go over the segment results.
Speaker 8: As a portion of the settlement with our insurance carriers related to a previously disclosed legal matter.
Speaker 10: Removing this item, which was not part of how we guided the adjusted EBITDA and margin for the quarter, would have resulted in a 10% margin.
Speaker 8: Slightly better than how we guided in our recent 2021 full year earnings call.
Speaker 8: Let's now turn to Slide nine and go over the segment results.
Stephen Henry Wood: For Q1 2022, commercial segment adjusted revenues were flat year-over-year at 512 million as ramped from new business wins begins to more than offset losses from prior years.
Stephen Henry Wood: This is the first quarter that the commercial segment has not declined year-over-year since spin, and we're pleased with the progress that has been made, while acknowledging there is always more to do as we return the commercial segment to a sustained path of revenue growth and margin expansion.
Stephen Henry Wood: We anticipate the impact of a long-planned merger-related revenue reduction from an existing client in Q2 will result in us showing a small year-over-year revenue decline. However, we remain confident on the full-year outcome, which I'll talk more about in a minute as we reflect further on full-year guidance.
Speaker 10: However, we remain confident on the full-year outcome, which I'll talk more about in a minute as we reflect further on full-year guidance.
Stephen Henry Wood: Adjusted EBITDA for the commercial segment in Q1 2022 was 54 million, up 5.9% as compared to Q1 2021, and the adjusted EBITDA margin of 10.5% was up 50 basis points year-over-year, driven by operational efficiency initiatives across the segment.
Stephen Henry Wood: For the government segment, Q1 2022 revenues were 286 million down 8.9% compared to Q1 2021. The year-over-year impact of the runoff of government stimulus was 27 million in the quarter. Removing that impact, the underlying base business would have been substantially unchanged year-over-year.
Speaker 10: The year-over-year impact of the runoff of government stimulus was 27 million in the quarter.
Speaker 10: Removing that impact, the underlying base business would have been substantially unchanged year-over-year.
Stephen Henry Wood: Adjusted EBITDA for the government segment in Q1 2022 was 83 million down 7.8% year-over-year, reflecting the runoff of government stimulus volumes, partially offset with operational efficiency initiatives.
Stephen Henry Wood: The adjusted EBITDA margin of 29% was up 30 basis points year-over-year.
Stephen Henry Wood: Transportation segment revenues in Q1 2022 were 162 million, down 12% year-over-year. We did expect the transportation segment to be down in the first quarter, a function of the timing of our strong new business ramp, the majority of which comes on in late Q2, early Q3 time frame, coupled with prior year losses and a one-time revenue item that benefited the prior year.
Speaker 8: We did expect the transportation segment to be down in the first quarter, a function of the timing of our strong new business ramp, the majority of which comes on in late Q2, early Q3 time frame.
Speaker 14: Coupled with prior year losses and a onetime revenue item that benefited the prior year.
Stephen Henry Wood: In addition to these items, which were well understood, timing in certain projects in some of our international businesses moved revenue into later quarters in 2022. We do expect these to catch up within the current year.
Speaker 10: Timing in certain projects in some of our international businesses moved revenue into later quarters in 2020 -two and.
Speaker 8: We do expect these to catch up within the current year.
Stephen Henry Wood: Our full-year revenue outlook for transportation remains unchanged. For the transportation segment, adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was 17 million down 43% as compared to Q1 2021, and the adjusted EBITDA margin was 10.5%, down 580 basis points year-over-year.
Speaker 5: For the transportation segment. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was 17 million down 43% as compared to Q1 20: 21, and the adjusted EBITDA margin was 10%, down 580 basis points year-over-year.
Stephen Henry Wood: The Q1 2021 adjusted EBITDA margin of 16.3% was the high point in 2021, benefiting as it did from a one-time revenue item with a high fall-through percentage to EBITDA that drove approximately 300 basis points of margin difference with the prior year comparison.
Speaker 10: Benefiting as it did from a onetime revenue item with a high fall-through percentage to EBITDA that drove approximately 300 basis points of margin difference.
Speaker 14: With the prior year compare.
Stephen Henry Wood: We anticipate transportation margins recovering in later quarters in line with the previous comments on revenue. We don't guide to adjusted EBITDA margin at the segment level. However, in the transportation segment, our expectation is for full-year margins to be at, or slightly better than, prior year on a full-year basis. Let's turn to slide 10 and discuss the balance sheet and cash flow.
Speaker 8: We don't guide to adjusted EBITDA margin at the segment level. However, in the transportation segment, our expectation is for full year margins to be at, or slightly better than, prior year on a full year basis.
Speaker 13: Let's turn to slide 10 and discuss the balance sheet and cash flow.
Stephen Henry Wood: Our cash position remains healthy and we have a strong liquidity position. We ended the quarter with 593 million of cash on the balance sheet.
Speaker 8: We ended the quarter with 593 million of cash on the balance sheet.
Stephen Henry Wood: During the quarter, we closed the sale of our Midas suite solutions, resulting in 321 million of cash consideration, subject to customary working capital adjustments, which we expect to finalize in Q2 and do not expect to be material.
Speaker 8: Subject to customary working capital adjustments.
Speaker 8: Which we expect to finalize in Q2 and do not expect to be material.
Stephen Henry Wood: Overall cash flow was as expected this quarter, with higher CapEx as a percentage of revenue, reflecting timing of certain payments, which will normalize over the course of the year.
Stephen Henry Wood: On February 11th this year, we repaid the hundred million of debt drawn under our revolving credit facility, and our net leverage ratio decreased to 1.5 turns, which is below what we expect to be our normal range of 2-2.5 half turns.
Speaker 11: And our net leverage ratio decreased to one point five turns, which is below what we expect to be on normal range of two to two and a half turns.
Stephen Henry Wood: As Cliff noted in his prepared remarks, we are indexing towards suspending the transportation segment as a separate public company. As those plans develop, we will clearly provide additional color on how we think about our debt with respect to the two entities, their leverage, and overall capital structure. In the short term, we believe it is prudent to retain flexibility with cash on hand as we work through those plans. Let's turn to slide 11 and review our 2022 guidance.
Speaker 13: As those plans develop, we will clearly provide additional color on how we think about our debt with respect to the two entities.
Speaker 3: Their leverage and overall capital structure.
Speaker 8: In the short term, we believe it is prudent to retain flexibility with cash on hand as we work through those plants.
Speaker 13: Let's turn to Slide 11 and review our 2022 guidance.
Stephen Henry Wood: We are reconfirming all components of our full-year 2022 guidance at this point. We expect adjusted revenues in 2022 to be in the range of 3.825 billion to 3.975 billion. As a reminder, this excludes the impact of the disposition of the Midas business.
Speaker 8: We expect adjusted revenues in 2022 to be in the range of three point eight to five billion to three point nine seven, five billion.
Speaker 11: As a reminder, this excludes the impact of the disposition of the Midas business.
Stephen Henry Wood: We have no material changes to our view of the annual segment level growth trajectories we called out in our full-year 2021 earnings update. Our view is that all three businesses are on track to meet their full-year commitments with a strong start to our sales year that should feed into our revenue ramp in the second half of the year. However, we do expect overall adjusted revenue in Q2 to be sequentially lower than Q1, specifically in the range of 925-935 million.
Speaker 8: Our view is that all three businesses are on track to meet their full year commitments with a strong start to our sales year. That should feed into our revenue ramp in the second half of the year.
Speaker 5: However we do expect overall adjusted revenue in Q2 to be sequentially lower than Q1, specifically in the range of 925 to nine hundred and thirty-five million.
Stephen Henry Wood: In Q2 2022, the year-over-year impact of the roll-off of government stimulus is approximately 65 million. There is also an annual component of this sequential trend, Q1 to Q2, which relates to the yearly cycle of open enrollment for our health care clients, which starts in Q4 and ends in Q1 the following year.
Speaker 11: There is also an annual component of this sequential trend, Q1 to Q2, which relates to the yearly cycle of open enrollment for our health care clients, which starts in Q4 and ends in Q1 the following year.
Stephen Henry Wood: Additionally, the earlier item that I mentioned with the roll-off of revenue in the commercial segment related to a long-planned merger-related activity from an existing client also plays into that rubric.
Stephen Henry Wood: We expect adjusted EBITDA margins to play out similarly to how we talked about them in our recent 2021 full-year earnings call, starting the year at or slightly below the guided range and finishing the year at or slightly above the guided range.
Speaker 8: Starting the year at or slightly below the guided range and finishing the year at or slightly above the guided range.
Stephen Henry Wood: We still expect to convert approximately 15% of adjusted EBITDA to adjusted free cash flow, inclusive of paying off the remaining portion of the deferred payroll taxes under the Cares Act. Similarly, we are not changing our outlook on CapEx or restructuring charges.
Speaker 11: Under the care's Act.
Speaker 14: Similarly, we are not changing our outlook on CapEx or restructuring charges.
Stephen Henry Wood: That concludes our financial review for Q1 2022, and I'll hand it back to Cliff to talk further about the transportation announcement. Cliff?
Speaker 1: Plus.
Clifford A. Skelton: Thanks, Steve. So as you can imagine, we're really proud of the progress we've made with client recognition, industry recognition, revenue, EBITDA margin, and sales.
Speaker 15: So as you can imagine, we're really proud of the progress we made with client recognition, industry recognition revenue, EBITDA margin and sales.
Clifford A. Skelton: As I mentioned, a significant importance is the announcement we made for our transportation segment where we said in previous press releases that we were going to separate the business and consider either a spin or sale. This is covered in our earnings press release but we're indexing primarily on spinning transportation to create two public entities, as opposed to a sale at this point in time.
Speaker 15: This is covered in our earnings press release. We're indexing primarily on spendning transportation to create two public entities, as opposed to a sale at this point in time.
Clifford A. Skelton: We looked closely at the analysis of spin versus sale, including the tax advantages of a spin. Our conclusion was that it didn't make sense to kick off an official process to sell with bankers and all the anticipation that goes with it.
Speaker 15: Our conclusion was that it didn't make sense to kick off an official process to sell with bankers and all the anticipation that goes with it.
Clifford A. Skelton: As a reminder, this is a great business. It has scarcity value, it has unique software and technology value, it has fantastic clients that we've dedicated the last few years to retain and grow. It has the ability and opportunity to team with others and integrate payments and other opportunistically valuable technology.
Speaker 15: It has scarcity value. It has unique software and technology value. It has fantastic clients that we've dedicated the last few years to retain and grow.
Speaker 15: It has the ability and opportunity to team with others and integrate payments and other opportunistically valuable technology.
Clifford A. Skelton: Again, we like this business and simply decided to take advantage of this growth opportunity on behalf of our own shareholders in the most tax-efficient manner possible.
Speaker 15: And simply decided to take advantage of this growth opportunity on behalf of our own shareholders in the most tax-efficient manner possible.
Clifford A. Skelton: While other opportunities may surface and could be entertained, we are focusing our efforts on spin and to set ourselves up to grow two very different public entities.
Clifford A. Skelton: The spin will create two industry-leading focused companies. The transportation business will become a pure-play industry leader. A company with truly multi-modal assets and the only transportation business in the market that can play into all areas of global transit, tolling, parking, and public safety.
Speaker 15: The transportation business will become a pure-play industry leader.
Speaker 15: A company with truly multioddal assets and the only transportation business in the market that can play into all areas of global transit tolling, parking and public safety.
Clifford A. Skelton: It will have extensive international scale, an experienced team, market-leading technology assets, and highly favorable industry dynamics that address smart cities and the monetization of urban mobility.
Speaker 15: An experienced team, market-leading technology assets and highly favorable industry dynamics that address smart cities and the monetization of urban mobility.
Clifford A. Skelton: Conduent commercial and government will then itself become a more focused company, serving a phenomenal set of commercial, health care, and government clients with a range of solutions to address their business process and payment needs. It will be lean, with solid margins, good cash conversion rates, and lower capital intensity.
Speaker 15: Serving a phenomenal set of commercial health care and government clients with a range of solutions to address their business process and payment needs.
Speaker 6: It will be lean, with solid margins.
Speaker 15: Good cash conversion rates and lower capital intensity.
Clifford A. Skelton: Now that the commercial segment is trending toward growth, when combined with our leading position in state and local government service and technology solutions, we see an outcome that should be uniquely positive for both the spun transportation business and the remaining Conduent business. We're going to create the right models for both companies, with lots of new opportunities around things like payments, customer experience as a service, claims, and other areas that we previously talked about.
Speaker 15: We see an outcome that should be uniquely positive for both the spun transportation business and the remaining Conduent business.
Speaker 15: We're going to create the right models for both companies, with lots of new opportunities around things like payments.
Speaker 15: Customer experiences, a service claims and other areas that we previously talked about.
Clifford A. Skelton: Now there's a lot of work to get done here and we're very early in the process. We're now going to focus on how we divide up our corporate functions, how we stand up leadership teams, how we create a Board of Directors for the transportation business, and how we do all of these efficiently and effectively. And you can be assured that we'll approach this in a very detailed person-by-person, product-by-product approach, so that you can have confidence in the outcome likely a year or so from now.
Speaker 6: We're now going to focus on how we divide up our corporate functions.
Speaker 15: How we stand up leadership teams.
Speaker 15: How we create a Board Directors for the transportation business and how we do all of these efficiently and effectively.
Speaker 15: And you can be assured that we'll approach this in a very detailed person-by-person, product-by-product approach.
Speaker 15: So that you can have confidence in the outcome likely a year or so from now.
Clifford A. Skelton: We'll have quarterly routines to report our progress along the way to our investors and certainly to the Board on a monthly basis. Many of the folks that will be working on this project have done this kind of separation or integration work before in several Fortune 500 companies. And you should expect us to be very rigorous and disciplined about it.
Speaker 6: Many of the folks that will be working on this project have done this kind of separation or integration work before in several Fortune 500 companies.
Speaker 15: And you should expect us to be very rigorous and disciplined about it.
Clifford A. Skelton: So as you can tell, we're very positive about this. There's a lot of work to go do and, as I've said, we have the right team to go do just that work. As always, I'd like to thank our clients, our associates, and our shareholders for their continued support. Conduent is in a good spot and we are motivated. Thank you all for joining us today. Now we'll open up the lines for some questions. Operator?
Speaker 15: As always, I'd like to thank our clients, our associates and our shareholders for their continued support. Conduent is in a good spot and we are motivating.
Speaker 15: Thank you all for joining us today. Now we'll open up the lines for some questions operator.
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Puneet Jain: Yes, hey, thanks for taking my question. So transportation revenue in this quarter came in below our expectations. But, I think, Steve you said that you expect some of that delayed work to come back in later quarter this year. So how much confidence you have, like what visibility you have in some of that work coming back and the trend rates improving in that business? And your guidance also, the full-year guidance, given what you expect for Q2 implies significant ramp up on sequential basis in 3Q and 4Q, so is that also like that sequential ramp that you expect in second half of this year? Does that also depend on transportation volume coming back in the second half?
Stephen Henry Wood: Yes Puneet, thanks to that. So look, thinking about Q1 first of all, I mean, most of the effects that took place in Q1 were well understood, the prior year losses, the one time that existed in the prior year that gave the compare an element of challenge, and also some FX drag in it. The project component of it is something that we do expect to come back. Some of it will come back in the second quarter, some of it will come back in the latter quarters over year. But yes, we do expect that to catch up. Thinking about Q2-and you mentioned a sort of step up in the revenue on a sequential basis, on a constant currency basis, my expectation for Q2 is that we'll be somewhere close to flat year-over-year on the top line because some of those projects are coming back and some of that ramp is starting to take place. One thing to remember about the transportation business is it had a really, really good sales year last year and in the latter part of 2020 with three large tolling contracts that are starting to build into our run rate now as we get into the second half of the year. So what you're going to see sequentially as we go through the year with transportation is the effect of that ramp building in Q2 and in Q3 again, and then obviously we've got the effect of a good, strong sales quarter of this quarter also sort of feeding into it. So right now, our overall view, going back to my prepared remarks, is that on a full-year basis I'm not seeing any reason for us to change our view of the segment level full-year revenue outcomes. We remain confident on the business on a full-year basis.
Speaker 11: on a constant currency basis, my expectation for Q2 is that we'll be somewhere close to flat year-over-year on the top line because some of those projects are coming back and some of that ramp is starting to take place. One thing to remember about the transportation business is it had a really, really good sales year last year and in the latter part of 2020 with three large tolling contracts that are starting to build into our run rate now as we get into the second half of the year. So what you're going to see sequentially as we go through the year with transportation is the effect of that ramp building in Q2 and in Q3 again, and then obviously we've got the effect of a good, strong sales quarter of this quarter also sort of feeding into it. So right now, our overall view, going back to my prepared remarks, is that on a full-year basis I'm not seeing any reason for us to change our view of the segment level full-year revenue outcomes. We remain confident on the business on a full-year basis.
Clifford A. Skelton: Yes, Puneet, as Steve said, we expected the lumpiness that we're seeing. The timing could have gone either way between Q1 and Q2 and you're always going to see a little bit of that, primarily in the international transit business. It's a little more consistent and leveled out in the tolling business but it's part of the course and transit, so it's going to recover.
Puneet Jain: Understood. And then in the transportation business, with this upcoming spinoff, how should we think about potential dis-synergies from those actions, not just in terms of customer accounts, but also in terms of internal capabilities, like if there were any cross-selling of capabilities of one business unit into others? And if you can also talk about the potential impact of spin-off, does that create any distractions in your transportation business?
Speaker 20: How should we think about potential dissynergies or from those actions, not just in terms of customer accounts, but also in terms of internal capabilities, like if there were any?
Speaker 19: Cross-selling of capabilities of one business unit into others, and.
Speaker 5: If you can also talk about potential impact of spin off, does that create NE attempt distractions in your transportation business?
Clifford A. Skelton: So it's a great question, we're early in the process. We see very few dis-synergies, if you will, it's a stand-alone business. There are really no cross- functional clients across segments from transportation. There are some infrastructure that we'll need to segregate. There's a lot of project work that'll need to take place to stand up to new public company, make sure we look at the corporate functions and decide how we divide those up. We've already established a project team to go do that work, to look at the ASIs in the 2B in the environment. But we see very, very few dis-synergies, we see only upside to this opportunity. Steve, any comments on that?
Stephen Henry Wood: No, I would echo that I think internally the business is quite well segmented already and beyond the fact that there are obviously certain costs that go with running a public company.
Clifford A. Skelton: Yeah, and just to pile line a little bit Puneet, obviously, in the press release where we said we're going to separate, there was frankly almost complete positive response from our client base. And so they see this enhanced management focus, they see more tailored operating model, they see easier peer compares, they see focused capital management as all positives for this. So from a client perspective and a growth opportunity, it's all upside for us, we just got to go do the work.
Speaker 23: Complete positive response from our client base.
Speaker 6: And so they see this enhanced management focus. They see more tailored operating model. They see easier peer compares. They see focused capital management as all positives for this. So from a client perspective and a growth opportunity, it's all upside for us is we's got to go to work.
Puneet Jain: Noted, thank you.
Clifford A. Skelton: Sure.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Brian Bergen with Cowen. Please proceed with your question.
Zachary Ryan Ajzenman: I think this is Zach Ajzenman on for Brian. The question, I just want to dig in a bit more on transportation, perhaps the bigger picture. Maybe can you talk about the sustainable growth outlook for the business, I understand there's some lumpiness, but perhaps rolling it up across each of the underlying pieces could give us maybe a better feel of a sustainable growth outlook there. Also looking to kind of get a sustainable base it will build on, so perhaps you can remind us of any ongoing legacy loss wind downs within the business.
Speaker 14: just want to dig in a bit more on transportation, perhaps the bigger picture. Maybe can you talk about the sustainable growth outlook for the business, I understand there's some lumpiness, but perhaps rolling it up across each of the underlying pieces could give us maybe a better feel of a sustainable growth outlook there. Also looking to kind of get a sustainable base it will build on, so perhaps you can remind us of any ongoing legacy loss wind downs within the business.
Clifford A. Skelton: Yes, so look, we think on a standalone basis there are a lot of opportunities. We looked very closely, as you might imagine, in spin versus sale, we looked at public company compares, we looked at growth rates both in a blue sky and a grey sky, we looked at potential partnerships, we looked at the fact that we haven't integrated things like payments, which were clearly very close to being able to do. We looked at the tax implications obviously of spin versus sales and then, like I said, we looked at the current envisioned growth rates of low-single digits today, without any of those tag-ons or potential tuck-ins or potential partnerships that I just alluded to, low-single digits with low teens on margins and we see upside to both of those, but that's kind of where we see the base business right now in the transportation space, with significant upside to that as we execute on the strategy that I just described. So I'm not sure if that answered your question. So again, repeating low single-digit growth rates is what we see the base business doing: low teens on margin, both with upside enhancement opportunity in the first three years of the spin.
Speaker 6: So again, repeating low single-digit growth rates is what we see the base business doing: low teens on margin, both with upside enhancement opportunity in the first three years of the spin.
Zachary Ryan Ajzenman: That's helpful. And on some deals that were called out over last year and perhaps on bookings too, any update on the status of the deals that were pushed out in 4Q. We've seen obviously some announcements in recent months but it sounds like perhaps there was some other push outs, perhaps in transport that expected to be more back ended. I'm curious if COVID-19 is still an overhang as it relates to the pace of client decision making and anything more broadly on kind of the characterization of client willingness here to sign deals.
Multiple speakers: [Clifford Skelton] Yes, and the second half of your transport question I didn't get to which was really client attrition, and frankly, a lot of what we were worried about just two years ago has all been cleaned up in terms of client attrition. There's one large state client that has not finished making their decisions, but by and large, we know where the puck is going on attrition and we've renewed all that we had hoped to renew and so we have a lot of increased confidence in terms of client retention in the transportation business. With respect to deals that slid into Q1, most of those deals were associated with commercial business. There was one in the transportation business as well and so we have high confidence that it's still timing across Q1, Q4, Q1 in Q4, even in Q2 and so I would say, 15 cent to 20% of the great sales quarter we had in Q1 was some of those that slid from Q4 to Q1, but even notwithstanding that, we had a really solid quarter in Q1 in sales and we expect to have a pretty good Q2, so more come there. Steve? [Stephen Wood] Yes, I'll just reiterate what Cliff said there around sales. In the year we talked about the fact that there were some deals that pushed from Q4 to Q1, but [inaudible] that into our expectations in Q1 and we exceeded those expectations. So we're off to a good start in terms of our sales. [Clifford Skelton] But that would not be dominated by transportation Zach, just to be clear. Most of those are in the commercial space.
Speaker 15: 15 cent to 20% of the great sales quarter we had in Q1 was some of those that slived from Q4 to Q1. But even notwithstanding that, we had a really solid quarter in Q1 in sales and we expect to have a pretty good Q2. So more come there. Yes, the only thing I just reittried Cliff set there around around sales in the year we talked about the fact that there was some deals that the push from Q for Q1, but we baed that into our expectations in Q1 and we exceed that as I expectedi reced. So where we're off to a good start in terms of all sales yet, but that that would not be dominated by transportations Act. Just to just a be clear. Some of those, most of those in the commercial space.
Zachary Ryan Ajzenman: Understood, thanks very much.
Stephen Henry Wood: Thanks, Zach.
Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Clifford Skelton for any closing comments.
Clifford A. Skelton: Thank you, operator. I appreciate everybody joining. As you can see we think it's a really good quarter. We think the announcement in clarity around spinning is really important to our clients and to our team. That clarity and focus for our bandwidth in the project is really important to us. I think you should have confidence as investors that we're going to get this right for the remainder of the year. So thank you all for joining and appreciate your time today, and I hope everybody has a great remainder of the day today. Thanks.
Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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