Q1 2022 IONQ Inc Earnings Call
Greetings, and welcome to the IonQ First Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
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Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to INQ's first quarter 2022 earnings.
Good afternoon, everyone and welcome to Inq's first quarter 2022 earnings call.
My name is Jordan Shapiro, and I am the Vice President of Financial Planning and Analysis and Head of Investor Relations here at IMA.
My name is Jordan Shapiro, and I am the vice President of financial planning and analysis and head of Investor Relations here at Ikea.
I am pleased to be joined on today's call by Peter Chapman, INQ's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Thomas Kramer, our Chief Financial Officer.
I am pleased to be joined on today's call by Peter Chapman, and she's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Thomas Kramer, Our Chief Financial Officer.
By now, everyone should have access to the company's first quarter 2022 earnings press release issued this afternoon, which is available on the Investor Relations.
By now everyone should have access to the company's first quarter 2022 earnings press release issued this afternoon, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website.
Please note that on today's call, management will refer to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP financial-
Please note that on today's call management will refer to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP financial measure.
While the company believes this non- GAAP financial measure provides useful information for investors, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation, or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAP.
While the company believes this non-GAAP financial measure provides useful information for investors. The presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.
This call discusses certain non-GAAT measures and you are directed to our press release for a reconciliation of such measures to GAAT.
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Before we begin, please note that some of our remarks in this call will be forward.
Before we begin please note that some of our remarks in this call will be forward looking.
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Please note that forward looking statements made during this conference call speak only as of today.
Please note that forward looking statements made during this conference call speak only as of today.
Now I will turn it over to Peter Chapman, President and CEO of IONQ.
Now I will turn it over to Peter Chapman, President and CEO of Inq.
Peter.
Thanks Jordan, and thank you all for joining us today.
Thanks, Jordan and thank you all for joining us today.
Roughly a year before we went public, we defined a multi-year plan to drive revenue growth and technical progress over six years.
Roughly a year before we went public we defined a multiyear plan to drive revenue growth and technical progress over six years.
Today we stand at the 18 month mark or about a quarter of the way into that plan.
They we stand at the 18 month, mark or about a quarter of the way into that plan I thought I would use this earnings call to give a quick report card on progress to date and provide my thoughts on the roadmap ahead.
I thought I would use this earnings call to give a quick report card on progress to date and provide my thoughts on the roadmap ahead.
Originally, we expected to achieve 114 million T.C.V. contract bookings, cumulatively in the first four years of the plan.
Originally we expected to achieve 114 million T. C V contract bookings cumulatively in the first four years of the plan.
On the last earnings call, we discussed that we are seeing an increased interest in customers purchasing dedicated I&Q quantum computers.
On the last earnings call. We discussed that we are seeing an increased interest in customers purchasing dedicated inq quantum computers.
As a result, we announced our expectation that TTV contract bookings could be nine figures for the three-year period from 2021 to 2023. Roughly a full year ahead of our original financial projection.
As a result, we announced our expectation that T. T V contract bookings could be nine figures for the three year period for 2021 to 'twenty to 'twenty three roughly.
Roughly a full year ahead of our original financial projections.
Our original financial plan was based in part on the cumulative numbers of systems I and Q expected to bring online over that period.
Our original financial plan, which is based in part on the cumulative numbers of systems I am sure you expected to bring online over that period.
We projected one in 2022, two in 2023, seven in 2024, 17 by 2025 and 33 by 2026.
We projected one in 2022.
Two in 2023 seven in 'twenty 'twenty 417 by 2025 and 33 by 2026.
Okay.
We currently have two INQ Harmony systems that feature 11 physical qubits available via our cloud partner.
We currently have two I think you harmony systems that feature 11, physical cubits available via our cloud partners.
We recently announced our latest generation system called IonQ-R-A, which features up to 32 physical qubits and 20 algorithmic qubits.
We recently announced our latest generation system called I think you ARIA, which features up to 32 physical cubits in 'twenty algorithmic cubits.
In addition, a second ARIA system is currently under construction to meet potential rising customer
In addition, a second <unk> system is currently under construction to meet potential rising customer demand.
Today we are excited to announce the next generation in our series of uterbeum systems called INQ4K.
Today, we are excited to announce the next generation in our series of your turbine system called <unk> Forte.
Our early internal results indicate that this machine has an even higher average 2 cubic gate fidelity than Arias.
Our early internal results indicate that this machine has an even higher average two qubit gate fidelity than ARIA.
In coming days, we will be issuing a press release on preliminary fidelity of the system and a blog post that will provide additional insight into how 4K operates.
In coming days, we will be issuing a press release on preliminary fidelity of the system and a blog post that will provide additional insight into how forte operates.
We anticipate that 14 will launch for beta access in the second half of this year.
We anticipate that for Teva launched for beta access in the second half of this year.
We also have our first system based on barium qubits. Controlled by longer wavelength visible light, barium systems are expected to make the optical design much easier while converting higher performance.
We also have our first system based on barium cubits controlled by longer wavelength visible light Varian systems are expected to make the optical design much easier while confirming higher performance.
To reach our 2023 goals and beyond, this year we're working to establish and optimize our manufacturing process to build systems at scale. We're focused on features such as system footprint, manufacturer ability, deployability, industrial design, and reliability as part of this development process.
To reach our 'twenty to 'twenty three goals and beyond this year, we're working to establish and optimize our manufacturing process to build systems at scale.
We are focused on features such as system footprint manufacturer ability deploy ability industrial design and reliability as part of this development process.
With regard to the number of systems we expected this year, we are clearly ahead of plan.
With regard to the number of systems. We expected. This year. We are clearly ahead of plan.
On the applications front, I am happy to report that early results with customers demonstrate that we're making serious inroads with quantum machine learning.
On the applications front I am happy to report that early results with customers demonstrate that we're making serious inroads with quantum machine learning.
Recently, we were able to show that we can effectively train quantum image classification models to achieve performance that rivals correspondingly classical machine learning models while using only a small fraction of the number of training parameters.
Recently, we were able to show that we can effectively trained quantum image classification models to achieve performance that rivals correspondingly classical machine learning models, while using only a small fraction of the number of training parameters.
These learnings build upon the results we previously reported on the speed of the training of the machine learning models and the results themselves were more expressive and better captured the signal of the original data.
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These learnings built upon the results. We previously reported on the speed of the training of the machine learning models and the results themselves were more expressive and better captures the signal of the original data we.
We are learning how this can lead to superior performance as we scale up to higher numbers of algorithmic humans.
We're learning how this can lead to superior performance as we scale up to a higher number of algorithmic cubits.
In summary, I&GU is firing in all cylinders, making progress on or ahead of schedule when compared to our roadmap. But that's...
In summary, I am too is firing on all cylinders, making progress on or ahead of schedule when compared to our roadmap.
But that's just what we've accomplished to date.
What's more important is where we are in our race to make quantum computers that broadly beat classical systems.
What's more important is where we are in a race to make quantum computers that broadly beat classical system.
The first thing we need to do is to push our systems to their limits on native gate fidelity. I.e., the fidelity the qubits can achieve without error correction.
The first thing we need to do is to push our systems to their limits on native good fidelity.
I E. The Fidelities kubitz can achieve without error correction.
I& Q4 T is another step in that direction. But as you'll see, with upcoming results from our barium system, adding this new cubic species to our arsenal pushes us even further along that path.
In Q Forte is another step in that direction.
But as you'll see with upcoming results from our barium system, adding this new cupid species to our Arsenal pushes us even further along that path.
Initial testing suggests the fundamental error limit for two-qubit gates using barium qubits will be significantly lower than ytterbium qubits, with a fidelity limit of roughly 99.98%.
Initial testing suggested fundamental error limit for two qubit gates using barium kubitz movie significantly lower than your turbine kubitz with fidelity limit of roughly 99.98%.
We've already demonstrated in release data showing that our first Barium system has extremely low state preparation and measurement or spam errors. Another important type of QVIT error.
We've already demonstrated and released data showing that our first barium system is extremely low state preparation and measurement or spam errors another important type of cubic air.
To go beyond the fundamental limits of native gate fidelity, one must implement error correction, which requires a higher number of physical qubits.
To go beyond the fundamental limits of native gate Fidelity, one must implement error correction, which requires a higher number of physical cubits.
Last year, together with our university partners, I&Q became the first quantum computing company to actually implement an error corrected qubit. And we did it with a 13 to one qubit overhead. And an important next milestone for the industry will be to run gates between multiple error corrected qubits that result in lower two qubit error rates.
Last year together with our University partners Inq became the first quantum computing company to actually implement an error correct to Cuba.
And we did it with a 13 to one cubit overhead.
And an important next milestone for the industry will be to run gates between multiple are corrected cubits that result in lower two qubit error rates.
Even with a low overhead, we need more physical qubits to implement error correction. We've already proven our multi-core chips can fit more qubits into a single system. Our investment in manufacturing engineering this year will enable us to continue scaling up our systems so that we can achieve error correction in the future.
Even with a low overhead we need more physical kubitz to implement error correction, we've already proven our multicore chips can fit more kubitz into a single system our investment in manufacturing engineering. This year will enable us to continue scaling up our systems. So that we can achieve error correction in the future.
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At the same time, we're also working to connect multiple systems together to combine their power using a technology called Photonic Interconnect.
At the same time, we're also working to connect multiple systems together to combine their power using a technology called photonic interconnects.
Our partner labs at the University of Maryland and Duke University pioneered this idea many years ago with demonstrations appearing in peer review journals such as Science and Nature. And this technology has been reproduced by many other labs throughout the world. IEQ is working hard to translate these ideas from the laboratory into a commercial setting.
Our partner Labs at the University of Maryland, and Duke University pioneered this idea and many years ago with demonstrations appearing in peer reviewed journals, such as science and nature. In this technology has been reproduced by many other labs throughout the world.
I think he was working hard to translate these ideas from the laboratory into a commercial setting.
The era of broadly applicable quantum computers is coming into CRISPR focus every day.
The era of broadly applicable quantum computers is coming into Christopher focus every day.
To summarize, I'm pleased with the progress I&Q is making both commercially and technologically.
To summarize I'm pleased with the progress I think she was making both commercially and technologically.
We entered the public market as the first pure play quantum computing hardware company with the belief that we can develop world changing technology.
We entered the public market as the first pure play quantum computing hardware company with the belief that we can develop world changing technology.
We have demonstrated the value of our systems numerous times with customers who are working to understand how to apply quantum computing to their everyday business problems in industries ranging from energy and mobility to machine learning and financial service.
We have demonstrated the value of our system's numerous times with customers who are working to understand how do we apply quantum computing to the everyday business problems in industries, ranging from energy and mobility to machine learning and financial services.
Financially, we are very well capitalized with cash, cash equivalents and investments of approximately $586 million, which on our current plan we believe to be sufficient to get the company to profitability without the need to raise any additional capital.
Financially, we are very well capitalized with cash cash equivalents and investments of approximately $586 million, which on our current plan, we believe to be sufficient to get the company to profitability without the need to raise any additional capital.
Last quarter, we were honored in the Time 100 Most Influential Companies list for 2022, alongside some of the most innovative companies of our era, and we intend to continue pushing the limits on quantum technology.
Last quarter, we were honored in the time 100, most influential companies list for 'twenty to 'twenty two alongside some of the most innovative companies of our era and we intend to continue pushing the limits on quantum technology.
None of this would be possible without the relentless efforts of the entire INQ team, our respect for fundamental science, and our longstanding dedication to developing and commercializing cutting-edge technology.
None of this would be possible without the relentless efforts of the entire inq team.
Our respect for fundamental science, and our long standing dedication to developing and commercializing cutting edge technology.
While there is still much work to be done, we are proud of our accomplishments so far. I encourage you to read through our 2022 letter to shareholders that outlines our vision for the future of I&Q and the quantum computing industry. We believe that the future is bright and are happy to have you alongside us for the journey. Next, Thomas will provide.
While there is still much work to be done we are proud of our accomplishments. So far I encourage you to read through our 2022 letter to shareholders that outlines our vision for the future of inq and the quantum computing industry.
We believe that the future is bright and are happy to have you along side us for the journey.
Next Thomas will provide an update on the financials.
Thank you, Peter. It has been quite the quarter. Before driving into our financials, I would first like to take a few minutes to address some common questions we have received over the last quarter about the increasing likelihood that I and Q will sell entire quantum computers in addition to selling access over the cloud.
Thank you Peter it has been quite the quarter before diving into our financials I would first like to take a few minutes to address some common questions. We have received over the last quarter about the increasing likelihood that inq Lasalle entire quantum computers. In addition to selling access over the cloud.
Let's start with why Prospect will be asking to buy entire systems. There are two main reasons why customers might prefer to own a system.
Let's start with why prospect will be asking them to buy into our systems. There are two main reasons, why a customer might prefer to own the system.
The first and most common is the desire to control when they compute. As of now, our cloud offering operates with a queue system, and there are certain times where a customer may be in line behind a large number of jobs, waiting to be processed, say, on a Monday morning at 9.30 Eastern.
The first and most common.
Desire to control when they compute.
As of now.
Our cloud offering operates with acute system and there are certain times, where a customer may be in line behind the large number of jobs.
Getting to be processed stay on a Monday morning at 930 eastern.
When the US stock exchange is open, and financial customers start trading.
When the U S stock Exchange's open international customers start trading.
If you need quantum compute time to process something time sensitive, for instance a hedge fund financial model or an update to road conditions, this probably would not work well for you. So having a dedicated system and being able to define the queue is likely to be important to many use.
If you need quantum computer time to posted something time sensitive for instance, a hedge fund financial model one update to road conditions. This probably would not work well fleet, so having a dedicated system and being able to define the Qs, it's likely to be important to many users.
The second reason is security and a need to own certain sensitive data on in-house systems.
The second reason is security and the need to own certain sensitive data on in house systems.
Although we're already very diligent about keeping our customers data secure, there are certain entities who do to internal controls and procedures cannot run specific processes or expose sensitive data to any machine besides their own. As we mentioned on our last quarter call, we're already seeing substantial interest in system sales stemming from private companies and governments alike.
Although we are already very diligent about keeping our customers' data secure.
Entities, who due to internal controls and procedures cannot run specific processes or expose sensitive data to any machine besides their own.
As we mentioned on our last quarter call, we're already seeing substantial interest in system sales stemming from private companies and governments alike.
To that end, we are doubling down on making OnCue quantum computers government ready.
To that end, we are doubling down on making on Q quantum computers government ready.
Our government sales efforts are already bearing fruit.
In April , we announced that ONCU was part of a group of private companies and universities that received a Research and Development Award from DARPA to fund a quantum algorithms benchmarking project.
In April we announced that <unk> was part of a group of private companies and universities that received a research and development award from DARPA to fund a quantum algorithms benchmarking project.
While contracting is still being finalized, we are the only quantum hardware makers selected for this multi-year award. And are excited to contribute on an initiative that will estimate the resources necessary to run important quantum applications.
While contracting is still being finalized we are the only quantum hardware makers selected for this multiyear award.
And are excited to contribute on an initiative that will estimate the resources necessary to run important quantum applications.
This is something I and Q has long been a public ad good of, as we believe absolute transparency will benefit the quantum computing industry as a whole, and give customers a standard with which to compare systems across different methods.
This is something <unk> has long been a public at good dog as we believe absolute transparency with benefit to quantum computing industry as a whole and give customers the standard with which to compare systems across different methods.
Moving on to our financial results from the first quarter, we're happy to announce we achieved total revenue of $2 million and bookings of $4.2 million.
Moving onto our financial results from the first quarter.
We are happy to announce we achieved total revenue of $2 million in bookings of $4 $2 million.
Our investments in growing our sales team are starting to bear fruits.
Our investments in growing our sales team are starting to bear fruit.
Moving down the statement of operations.
For Q1 2022, our total operating costs and expenses for the first quarter were $20.2 million, up 171% from $7.5 million in the Comparable Prior Year period.
For Q1 2022.
Our total operating costs and expenses for the first quarter were $20 $2 million up 171% from $7 $5 million in the comparable prior year period.
Break this down further.
Our research and development cost for the first quarter for $7.3 million, up 101% from the 3.7 million in the year prior period.
Our research and development costs for the first quarter was $7 $3 million up 101% from the $3 7 million in the year prior period.
Recall that as Peter noted, we are mesting heavily in R&D and given anticipated demand of building more systems than previously projected.
We call that as Peter noted, we are investing heavily in R&D and given anticipated demand and building more systems than previously projected this year.
Our sales and marketing costs in the first quarter were $1.9 million, up 724% from $227,000 in the prior period.
Our sales and marketing costs in the first quarter were $1 9 million up 724% from $227000 in the prior year period.
This increase was due to the growth in our cell scene as Anku has started to mess heavily in our commercialization.
This increase was due to the growth in our sales team at <unk> has started to invest heavily in our commercialization.
Our general and administrative costs in the first quarter were 9.2 million dollars, up 211 percent from $3 million in a comparable prior year period.
Our general and administrative costs in the first quarter with $9 $2 million up 211% from $3 million in the comparable prior year period.
This increase is largely attributable to the growth in stock debt compensation expense, which was $4.8 million for the first quarter compared to $1 million in the comparable prior year period.
This increase is largely attributable to the growth and stock based compensation expense, which was $4 8 million for the first quarter compared to $1 million in the comparable prior year period.
All of this resulted in a net loss of $4.2 million in the first quarter compared to $7.3 million in the prior period.
All of this resulted in a net loss of $4 $2 million in the first quarter compared to $7 $3 million in the prior year period.
It is important to note that these results include a non-cash gain of 13.4 million dollars for the first quarter related to the fair value of warrant liability.
It is important to note that these results include a non cash gain of $13 $4 million for the first quarter.
Related to the fair value of warrant liability.
So in adjusted EBITDA loss for the first quarter of $10.3 million compared to a $5.5 million loss in the prior period.
We saw an adjusted EBITDA loss for the first quarter of $10 $3 million compared to a $5 $5 million loss in the prior year period.
Turning now to our balance sheet, cash equivalence and investments asked on March 31, 2022 with $586 million.
Turning now to our balance sheet cash cash equivalents and investments as of March 31st 2022 with $586 million we.
We believe this gives us sufficient cash reserves to get to profitability without needing to raise additional funds given our current road.
We believe this gives us sufficient cash reserves to get to profitability without needing to raise additional funds given our current roadmap.
With this substantial cash position, the company's operations should be well positioned to deal with the ups and downs of market generations, energy prices, interest rates, and so on. Go on.
With this substantial cash position the company's operations should be well positioned to deal with the ups and downs of market gyrations energy prices interest rates and so on.
Now turning to our second quarter outlook.
Given that we are still at the beginning of our commercialization phase, I want to reiterate my comment from our last earnings call that we expect bookings to continue to be lumpy for quite some time.
Given that we are still at the beginning of our commercialization phase I want to reiterate my comments from our last earnings call that.
We expect bookings to continue to be lumpy for quite some time.
Our projection from second quarter financial results reflect this lump in.
Our projection from second quarter financial results reflect this lumpiness.
In the second quarter, we expect revenue to be between 2.3 and 2.5 million dollars. We anticipate second quarter bookings of between 3 and 5 million dollars. We're excited to share that we are increasing our expectations of full year 2022 bookings from a range of 20 to 24 million dollars on our last earnings call to a new range of 23 million dollars to 27 million dollars.
In the second quarter, we expect revenue to be between two three and $2 $5 million, we anticipate second quarter bookings of between three and $5 million. We're excited to share that we are increasing our expectations of full year 2022 bookings from a range of $20 million to $24 million on our last earnings call.
To a new range of $23 million to $27 million.
And with that operator, you will now like to open the line for questions.
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We would now like to open the line for questions.
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Other questions from David William of benchmark please go ahead. Good afternoon and that can graph on the plot.
My first question is from David Williams of Benchmark. Please go ahead.
Hey, good afternoon, and congrats on the progress.
Thank you.
Yeah. So I wanted to touch I guess real quick maybe Peter.
But as you kind of think about it.
You kind of think about the backdrop and quantum computing and the demand trends and you think about your customer base can you kind of help us parse out your customers in terms of of those that are more commercial versus academic and research driven how much of your revenue or how much maybe your bookings are driven by beyond maybe the academic world.
Okay.
Let's see, we have a wide kind of range of different customers.
Let's see we have a wide range of different customers.
It's a good spread. Some of it, to be honest, comes from cloud companies, and we don't know exactly how customers are using it. So there's kind of a wild card there, if you will.
It's.
It's a good spread some of it to be honest.
Comes from cloud companies and we we don't know exactly how customers are using it. So there is kind of a wildcard there if you will.
You know anecdotally we see things out on the internet where students are using the quantum computers to do their quantum homework Professors are using the quantum computers are quantum computers to teach classes and make YouTube videos
Anecdotally, we see things out on the Internet, where students are using the quantum computers to do their quantum Homer professors are using the quantum computers are quantum computers to teach classes and make Youtube videos and then you have companies you know larger large companies that are doing.
And then you have companies, you know, large, large companies that are doing, you know, early work on these and producing scientific papers.
During you know early work on these and producing scientific papers so.
So, you know, it is kind of a mixture of all of them. I'm not sure that I even would be able to be honest to generate.
You know it is it is kind of a mixture of all of them.
I'm not sure that I, even would be able to be honest to generate an exact kind of breakdown because we don't have full transparency into sometimes with the cloud companies with their users here.
an exact kind of breakdown because we don't have full transparency into sometimes with the club.
companies, what their users are, we don't get their customer ID.
We don't get their customer information.
That helps a lot make sense. And then maybe there's been some discussion of just, I guess, the ability of quantum machines to perform simple calculations, if you will. Can you talk a little bit about maybe the importance of algorithmic structure and why quantum machines are maybe not as useful in solving practical logic problems like your calculator might have?
Okay. That's helpful and makes sense and then maybe there's been some discussion just.
I guess the ability of quantum machines to perform simple calculations. If you will up can you talk a little bit about maybe the importance of algorithmic structure and why quantum machines or maybe not as useful in solving practical logic logical problems like your your cassio.
Calculator.
It's a great question. So quantum computing is likely to solve certain differential equations. And at the same time, not designed for simple math. It's hard to-
[laughter], if it's a if it's a great question.
So you know quantum computing is likely to solve certain differential equations.
And at the same time not designed for simple math.
It's it's hard to kind of wrap your head around.
Adding 1 plus 1 isn't what quantum computers are designed for. If you want simple math, there's an app for that on your phone.
Adding one plus one isn't what quantum computers are designed for if you want simple math, there's an app for that on your phone.
Today we're working on problems like general object recognition that looks to rival the best classical technology today.
And today were working on problems like general object recognition that looks to rival the best classical technology today.
And you know, I understand for everyone trying to understand kind of this quantum stuff is hard.
And you know I understand for for everyone trying to understand kind of this quantum stuff is hard.
So how is it you could solve differential equations? And at the same time, how can it be?
And so.
How is it you could solve differential equations and at the same time, how can it be hard to do one plus one we've never said that quantum computers are going to be good at everything they're going to be very good we believe against a certain subset.
We've never said that quantum computers are going to be good at everything. They're going to be very good, we believe, against a certain subset that happens to be commercially interesting going.
Happens to be commercially interesting going forward.
Very good, thank you for that. And then maybe a little bit of color around the ARIA. It's just coming online. You talk about the cubic capacity there of this system, how that compares in the magnitude of performance differential to the prior generation.
Very good. Thank you for that and then maybe just a little bit of color around the ARIA is just coming online can you talk about the cubic capacity there of this system how that compares in the magnitude of performance differential to the prior generations.
Yeah, I'm gonna switch this since we have Junksang on the line here. I'll let him answer it since he's the X.
Yeah, I'm going to switch this since we have junk thing on the on the line here I'll, let him answer it since he's the expert alright. Thank you for the questions Yeah area.
All right, thank you for the questions. Yeah, area, IMP area is capable of being configured up to 32 qubits. We can load it with different numbers of qubits, depending on the optimal configuration and what the application is. Currently, as we have guided, our performance metric of choice is algorithmic qubits.
<unk> is capable of.
Configure it up to 32 cubits weekend loaded with different numbers of tidbits, depending on the optimal configuration and what the application is.
Currently as we have guided our performance metric of choice is algorithm acute but and we believe that operating currently it's being operated with 21 physical cubits because that achieves the optimal results and maximizing the algorithmic kubitz, which means that customers can run the most complicated quantum circuits.
And we believe that operating it, currently it's being operated with 21 physical qubits because that achieves the optimal results in maximizing the algorithmic qubits, which means that customers can run the most complicated quantum circuits in this configuration.
In this configuration.
Okay, you don't ask you a question.
It did, it did thank you. I certainly appreciate that. And then maybe just one, one last one if I can and maybe talk a bit better for you. But I understand that the bookings are are lumpy, but it looks like between this quarter and the guidance, you're right around that midpoint of your bookings for the year. Just kind of wondering how we should think about maybe the second half in terms of bookings, what those expectations are. And I know previously you had to kind of talk about maybe the fourth quarter being a little bit heavier, but just kind of how do we think about the bookings for the remainder of the year?
It did it did thank you I certainly appreciate that and then maybe just one one last one if I can and maybe Tom it's better for you, but I understand that the bookings are lumpy, but it looks like that between this quarter and the guidance you are right around that mid point of your bookings for the year just kind of wondering how we should think about maybe the second half in terms of bookings with those expectations.
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No previously you tend to talk about maybe the fourth quarter being a little bit heavier, but just kind of how do we think about the bookings for the remainder of the year.
So, as with all technology, we expect the bookings to be backloaded. There's no good reason for it. It's just how people spend towards their budget. And we would, of course, if we have the opportunity to finish the sale earlier, we will. And all of the people listening here on this call would be the first to know, of course. But as we said on the call, we are able to raise our guidance based on the signals we're getting from the market.
Yeah.
So as.
As with all technology, we expect the bookings to be back loaded.
There's no. Good reason for it is just how people spend towards their budget.
And we would of course, if we have the opportunity to finish the sale earlier, we will and all of the people listening here on this call would be the first to know of course, but as we said on the call. We are able to raise our guidance be based on the signals, we're getting from the market.
Yeah.
Fantastic. Thanks so much. Certainly appreciate the time and the best luck on the quarter.
Okay fantastic. Thanks, so much I certainly appreciate the time and the best of luck on the quarter.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Hi, yes. Thank you.
I guess I want to start, Peter, if we could talk a little bit about the assumptions around the Kimmel number system that you talked about getting up into the 30s by 2026.
I guess I wanted to start Peter if we could talk a little bit about the assumptions around the the cumulative number of systems that you talked about getting up into the thirties by 2026.
Maybe just.
Spend a little bit of time on how you're thinking about those systems in terms of a terbian versus barium Systems, can we get to commercialization with a terbian or to your point around error correction using barium qubits? Do we need to start to see some of those types of systems? You know come to market before we can get to real
I'll spend a little bit of time on how youre thinking about those systems in terms of ytterbium versus Varian systems can we get to commercialization with a turbine or to your point around error correction using varian kubitz do we need to start to see some of those types of systems you know.
Come to market before we can get to a real.
commercialization of revenue that would be helpful
Commercial commercialization of revenue that would be helpful. And then also I guess around that same topic. If you could just talk a little bit you mentioned that you're youre working on optimizing manufacturing and system footprint et cetera.
And then also, I guess around that same topic, if you could just talk a little bit, you mentioned that you're working on optimizing manufacturing and system footprint, et cetera.
How are you envisioning the footprint of these systems once we get out to maybe 2025-2026? Are these going to be smaller in form factor? I think at some point...
How how are you envisioning sort of the footprint of these systems once we get out to maybe 'twenty five 'twenty six or are these going to be smaller in form factor I think at some point you had mentioned that we might see some rack mountable systems out out in the marketplace. So an update on that would be helpful. Thank you.
You had mentioned that we might see some rack mountable systems out in the marketplace. So an update on that would be helpful. Thank you.
Great question, Ruben. So I think it's true for any quantum computing company that the very first thing you do is you look to optimize the native gate fidelity, because that's kind of, it's low-hanging fruit. And the other thing is it really determines what the overhead that you're going to have to do for error.
Hum.
Great question, Reuben So I think it's true for any quantum computing company. That's the very first thing you do is you look to optimize the native Gabe fidelity.
Because that's kind of.
It's low hanging fruit and the other thing is it really determines what the overhead that youre going to have to do for error correction. So the more you can get that to be lower than the better in terms of the number of physical cubist you'll have to consume so where on one hand, we're busily pushing in.
So the more you can get that to be lower, then the better in terms of the number of physical cues you'll have to...
So we're on one hand, we're busily pushing in both a uterveum and in barium to get the lowest number we possibly.
Both <unk> and <unk>.
Barium to get the lowest number we possibly can and so and we've talked about how basically at <unk>. We think that number I think roughly is 99, eight and a barium it's 99 point $99 98.
And so, and we've talked about how basically at uterveum, we think that number, I think roughly, is 99.8. And at barium, it's 99.98. So, basically kind of almost another nine. And then after that, you know, that you have to start thinking, at least in eye-in-cuse case, we probably need to do error correction to bring in more fidelity. Millibility is about 258.3. And now we see what models you can find your priority with this one. We know you are a freaking
<unk> kind of almost another nine.
And then after that.
You have to start thinking at least in Inq's case, we probably are or.
I need to do Eric correction to bring in more fidelity and that means we need more more physical cubits to do there. So we're we're kind of pushing on.
And that means we need more physical qubits to do there. So we're kind of pushing on...
native at one time, and now what you're hearing from us is we're starting to also push on the number of physical qubits. We have been doing that in the sense that, for instance, we announced a new chip where the number of qubits was much higher. We will continue to do that, increasing the number of qubits on the processor, the QPU itself.
The native at one time and now what you are hearing from us as well.
We're starting to also push on this on the number of physical two bits, we have been doing that in a sense that for instance, we announced a new chip where the number of Kubitz was much higher we will continue to do that.
Increasing the number of units on the processor.
<unk> itself.
And now what you're hearing is that we're starting to start thinking about building more quantum
And now what you are hearing is that we're starting to start thinking about.
Building more quantum computers.
so that we would have a pool of physical cubits so that we could start to do error corrects. So that we could start to do error corrects.
So that we would have a pool of of physical kubitz. So that we could start to do error correction.
And a key kind of piece to that story is that, as soon as you have multiple systems, you need to network them together.
And a key piece to that story is that.
As soon as you have multiple systems you need the network come together, because you need to do entanglements and <unk> to another which means that they have to be network. This is true not just for <unk>, but I believe it's true for for any technology. So now. The question is is we're starting to think about how can we.
because you need to do entanglement from one QPU to another, which means that they have to be networked. This is true, not just for INQ, but I believe it's true for any technology.
So now the question is, you know, we're starting to think about how can we manufacture you know, more computers, you know, more quantum computers. And you know, now it's the natural time to sit down and say, let's work on shrinking in, let's start working more on reducing their costs.
<unk> more computers more classroom computers and now it's the natural time to sit down and say, let's work on shrinking in let's start working more on reducing their costs.
in terms of their to manufacture. Those, you know, haven't been our primary focus really up to this point and now going forward, we're standing up a separate team who that's what their full focus is kind of going forward.
In terms of their manufacture those you know hasnt been our primary.
Focus really up to this point and now going forward.
We were standing up a separate team who's desperate they're sole focus is kind of going forward.
And if it turns out that we can't make progress on if you will in terms of a risk factor of one or the other cubit species, it just means that error correction is coming sooner.
And if it's if it turns out that we can make progress.
You know on if you will in terms of risk factor of one or the other huge piece is it just means that Eric correction is coming sooner.
And that isn't what we believe. We're gearing up really for the end game, in the race to the finish here. So that's the reason we're getting started. And as we talked about in the last earnings call, if we're starting to get interest from.
And that isn't what we believes we're gearing up really for the endgame.
And the race to the finish here. So that's that's the reason, we're getting started and as we talked about in the last.
In the last earnings call.
If we're starting to get interest from.
from potential sales, well we should start getting ready for that.
From potential sales.
We should start getting ready for that as well.
Very helpful. Thanks, Peter. Also, I wanted to ask about the ARIA systems. You mentioned the second ARIA system under construction. You also have the announcement around collaboration with Microsoft for the ARIA. Are both of your ARIA systems going to be available via the cloud or is one going to be available via IonQ Cloud? I would love some detail on how you're thinking about deploying those systems over the course of this year.
Yeah.
That's very helpful. Thanks, Peter.
Also I wanted to ask about the ARIA systems, you mentioned, the second area system under construction.
You also have the announcements around our collaboration with Microsoft for the ARIA are both of your audio system is gonna be available via the cloud or is one going to be available by our Q cloud I just would love some more detail on how youre thinking about deploying those systems over the course of this year.
I'm not sure we've decided all the final details, but in general, what we try to do is to build two systems in the same.
I'm not sure we've decided at all the final details, but in general what we tried to do is to them to.
To build two systems in the same class that way if there's one that's down for maintenance that you've got another one.
That way if there's one that's down for maintenance that you've got another one.
can make available. And you're adding 2X to capacity when they're both.
You can make available.
And you are adding two extra capacity when they are both up and running.
Right. Okay. Makes sense. And then just a quick follow-up question for Thomas. You mentioned the growth in the sales team. Can you give us an update of where you are in terms of how you were thinking about sales headcount for the year? How much further do you think you're going to go this year and maybe?
Right. Okay makes sense and then just a quick follow up question for Thomas you mentioned the growth in the sales team can you give us an update of where you are in terms of how you were thinking about sales head count for the year, how how much further you think youre going to go this year and then maybe.
updated around any other sort of near term headcount additions that you need to make around R&D or otherwise.
Update around any other sort of near term head count.
Additions that you need to make around R&D or or otherwise.
Yeah, as we kind of talked about, we started off with a very small Phil's team last year. We had a set of goal of
Yeah.
As we kind of talked about we started off with a very small sales team last year, we had a set a goal of ours.
of the sales team this year, and I believe we hit that in the first quarter or pretty darn close to it in terms of the number of people. We wanted to get them on board early, obviously, because there's no point in getting sales people on at the end of the year if you're going to help your sales numbers. So we set an aggressive goal on kind of putting the team together. So they're busily working on sales now. And I would expect that the sales effort will, you know, continue to grow. There's lots of greenfields in terms of opportunities.
The sales team this year and then we I believe we hit that in the first quarter are pretty darn close to it.
In terms of the number of people who wanted to get them on board early obviously, because theres no point in getting salespeople on at the end of the year and a healthy healthier sales numbers. So we set an aggressive goal on kind of putting the team together.
So they're busily working on sales now and.
And I would expect that the sales effort will.
We continue to to grow Theres lots of Greenfield in terms of opportunity both domestically.
domestically and also internationally.
Domestically and also internationally.
Okay. Good update thanks Peter.
Thanks Kurt.
Okay.
Our next question is from Richard Shannon of Craig Helham. Please go ahead.
Our next question is from Richard Shannon of Craig Hallum. Please go ahead.
We're great, thanks Peter and Thomas for getting me in here. So I want to follow up on a couple of questions here or topics for today and brought up in the past year, especially regarding that customer's interest in buying assistance.
Oh, great. Thanks, Peter in Thomasville wrong tell me in here.
So I wanted to follow up on a couple of questions here or topics for today and brought up in the past you, especially with adding more customers interested in buying a system.
I guess two angles look at this, first of all, what is, is there real demand here for private companies buying an econ computer in the near term? And would those customers be using it just for themselves or potentially sharing it with a small group? Because it seems like a figure kind of a purchase might be a little bit heavy for most organizations.
I guess two angles look at this first of all.
What is it is there.
It was a real demand here for private companies buying a quantum computer in the near term and would those customers be using it just for themselves or potentially sharing it with the small group because it seems like a eight figure kind of a purchase might be a little bit heavy for most organizations.
Um, at least initially here, or is this something that's mostly a government kind of a sale here, at least in the near.
At least initially here or is this something that's mostly a government kind of a sale here at least in the near term.
You can put it on your credit card, so more seriously. It's, you know, it's, it's,
You can put it on your credit card so.
So the more seriously.
It's.
Yes.
I would say there's right now what we're seeing is a lot of demand and interest there. Many times it's for
I would say there is right now what we're seeing is a lot of demand and interest there.
Many times it's for.
area or group or an organization that's looking to get it for kind of a group of end users. Sometimes with, you know, sometimes with a...
An area or a group or an organization that's looking to get it for four kind of a group of end users.
Sometimes with.
Sometimes with.
as to say it could be in a university setting or in their international or national setting, a government. So.
And as I say it could be in the university setting are either international or national setting.
So it's.
Incentive in that in those contexts.
Yeah.
That's enough. Second question ahead was on your new four-taste system. I guess I wanted to, I think you described this as a uterbian-based system. Is that correct?
Okay, that's fair enough.
Second question I had was on your knees or T system.
I guess I wanted to I think you've described the size of your Trubion based system is that correct.
That's correct. Yep. Okay. So, are there any advancements in this system here that are translatable or usable in the future bearing systems? And do you expect to have and continue to develop next generation versions of a turbulent?
That's correct yep, okay. So.
Is there any advancements in the system here that are translatable.
Usable in the future bearing systems.
And do you expect to have and continue to develop.
Next Gen or next generation versions of a turbine.
I'm gonna switch that to Junsing since we have the expert online.
I'm going to I'm going to switch that to John saying since we have the expert online. So alright. Thank you for the question yes.
All right, thank you for the question. Yes, these systems actually take a while to build, so we actually have been planning and developing this systems for quite some time, obviously.
These systems actually take a while to build so we have actually have been planning and developing the systems for for quite some time.
And I think we, at this point, we have this forte actually includes a few new features. One of them is the way that we address this individual ions to run logic gates. The beams are actually steerable. I think Peter mentioned about that in one of the conferences at the end of last year. We have that technology. And those technologies and approaches actually translate very easily into other atomic species, or other cubic species like Darien.
And I think we are at this point we have this forte actually includes a few new features are one of them is the way that we address this individual irons to run logic gate. The beams are actually it's terrible I think Peter mentioned about that in one of the conferences at the end of last year, we have that.
<unk> and those technologies and approaches actually scan all translate very easily into into other atomic species or other qubit species like barium Oh. So you know certainly many many of these architectural features and the underlying technologies are definitely aligned to all of our future systems, whether they are toby him or her barium.
So, you know, certainly many, many of these architectural features and underlying technologies are definitely aligned to all of our feature systems, whether they are Etovium or Obarium.
So, at this point, we are very, very confident with our intervening technology. We can make...
Oh, So you know at this point, we are very very confident with our utopian technology. We can make we continue to make a higher performing quantum computers with them and I believe that trend will continue with forte, but I think we also I'm gonna, making a lot of background understanding so we can actually transition with <unk>.
We continue to make higher performing quantum computers with them. And I believe that trend will continue with Forte. But I think we're also making a lot of background understanding so we can actually transition with Barium. We are finding out some of our early measurements.
We are finding out some of all the measurements that varian systems do give us a lot more room in terms of higher performance system. So that type of R&D is going to continue well into the future.
that the barium systems do give us a lot more room in terms of higher performance systems. So that type of R&D is going to continue in the future.
Okay perfect. Thanks, so much I'm, saying.
My last question is the follow on from an earlier question today or or is that coming off of that which is
My last question is a follow on from and a little question today.
Coming off of that which is.
You know, understanding your customer set here in Peter, you mentioned that some of your customers have come through the cloud. You don't have no identities. It's hard to kind of profile that. Is that suggesting the cloud is actually is thinking of the proportion of that? I guess I guess my assumption that was that most of those were coming from certain contracted customers where it's always small amount from cloud. So can you clarify that? Of course, was...
Understanding your customer sat here and Peter you mentioned that some of your customers come through the cloud.
Oh identities, it's hard to kind of profile of that is that suggesting that cloud is actually a significant portion of that I guess I guess my assumption was that most of those are coming from certain contracted customers of which only a small amount from cloud. So can you clarify that forces.
Um, you know, we expect the cloud to, um, to be an important part.
We expect the cloud too to be an important part of.
The quantum ecosystem going forward, it offers an easy way for customers to sign up and give it a try. Anyone on the call, you know, with the credit card, you could be up and running on one of our quantum computers.
It's kind of the quantum ecosystem going forward. It offers an easy way for customers to sign up and give it a try anyone on the call.
Card it could be up and running on one of our quantum computers.
pretty easily. So in that sense, it's particularly important. But the cloud is a commoditized market.
Pretty pretty easily.
Since it's particularly important.
Our cloud.
It's a it's a commoditized market it's in.
intended to give you cheaply access to hardware. And quantum isn't that that place.
Intended to.
Deeply access to hardware and quantum isn't at that place yet.
You know, we're not, we're at the early stages of the TV market, not the end, so it hasn't been commoditized. So, one would expect that in a, with kind of limited supply, that it would make more sense to kind of have.
You know, we're not where we're at the early stages of the TV market not the and so it hasnt been commoditized. So one would expect that in our <unk>.
It's kind of limited supply that it would make more sense to to kind of have other business models that.
other business models that is not as favorable in terms of sales.
It is not as favorable in terms of say the cloud. So we think that the cloud stuff is very important we're very happy that we've kind of democratize access to these early quantum computers. So everyone can get access to it and give it a try.
So we think that the cloud stuff is very important. We're very happy that we've kind of democratized access to these early quantum computers so everyone can get access to it and give it a try. But at the same time, I think it'll be a while before.
But at the same time.
I think it'll be a while before.
The cloud market is the market, if you will, for quantum.
Yes.
Cloud market is is the market if you will for quantity.
Okay Fair enough I appreciate the detail Peter that if that is all for me. Thank you.
Yeah.
Next question is from Scott Fessler of Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead.
Our next question is from Scott <unk> of Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead.
Thank you. When you guys announced earlier, you named a couple of new large customers that were already trialing. Would the base for forte launching later this year do you anticipate the new customers will headline these trials or will largely be demoted by the same customers that are already on?
Thank you.
You guys are now starting to you named a couple of new large customers that were already trialing with debate for 14 launching later this year do you anticipate that new customers will headlines trials or will largely be determined by the same customers that are early on existing systems.
We very much do. So, you know, it is, we have, usually, you know, when we release a new piece of hardware, the first people they get, crack at it is the internal applications team, as you can imagine. And they're often working with customers. And so,
We very much too.
So it.
As we have.
Usually when we release, our new pieces of hardware.
First people they get crack.
Crack at it as being internal applications team as you can imagine and there are often working with with.
With customers and so.
And they might get accessed very early to the system. Maybe there might be bugs or, you know, with that early access, it's always not, you know, perfectly smooth. But that's, but customers want the kind of latest and greatest.
And they might get access to very early into the system, maybe there might be bugs or.
With that early access is it's always not perfectly smooth, but that's.
Our customers want their kind of latest and greatest and so that's kind of part of the part of the deal so and they are likely to be the first ones to write.
So that's kind of part of the deal. So, and they're likely to be the first one to write, you know, papers or make announcements or something as it is.
Papers or make announcements or something as a result.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, um, just to follow up there then, um, on a slightly different topic. So, um, as far as for Thomas, for the growth in or upping the yearly guidance for total contract bookings, if you roughly split the customer set into like 3 broad categories between government, academic and commercial, where do you see the greatest growth coming that gives you conviction and taking up the contract bookings?
Okay.
Just a follow up there then.
On a slightly different topic so.
As far as for Thomas for the growth and are upping the yearly guidance for total contract bookings if you roughly split the customer set into three broad categories between government academic and commercial.
The greatest growth coming.
Is your conviction and taking up the contract bookings estimate.
So we actually see a lot of inbound interests and what we don't know is who is going to break first. What we're presenting is a weighted view of ourselves funnel and together they form our forecast. So I can't tell you which one it is because at our early stage of commercialization, I mean, every sale is binary. It happens or it doesn't.
So we actually see a lot of inbound interests and what we don't know is who is going to break first what we're presenting is a weighted view of our sales funnel.
And together they form our forecast so I can't tell you, which one it is because at our early stage of commercialization I mean every sale is binary it happens or doesn't.
And so I don't know, but I will also say, as we stated before, we do not intend to break up segments just yet. I think we're too young a company to do that.
So.
Don't know, but I will also say as we stated before we do not turn we do not intend to breakout segments, just yet I think we're too young a company to do that.
Okay. All right. Thank you. You have to give us a little more time to have enough data to be able to draw an appropriate.
Okay Alright. Thank you I'd say you have to you'd have to give us a little more time to have enough data to be able to.
To draw and appropriate.
Okay.
Alright. Thanks.
Our last question is from Quinn Bolton of Newnham & Company. Please go ahead.
My last question is from Quinn Bolton of Needham and company. Please go ahead.
Okay.
Your line is long.
Hi, sorry I was on mute. I just want to say congratulations on the progress. To date, had a few questions first on forte. Does forte use the same quantum processor that ARIA does? So it's a 32 physical qubit system. And that related question, do the cerebral laser beams or the cerebral laser system? Does that end up giving you better gate fidelity? Does it give you faster gate speed? Does the result of the different system?
Hi, sorry, I was on mute just just wanted to say congratulations on the progress to date had a few questions first on <unk> just.
Fortunately use the same quantum processor that Oreo does so it's at 32 physical qubit system and a related question do this durable laser beams or the <unk> laser system does that end up giving you better gate fidelity does it give you faster gait speed as a result of this.
A different system.
Yeah, this is Jung-San. Yes, I think that's a great question. So the first question is, we've actually been on a trend to make sure that our quantum computers become more software configurable, meaning we'd like to eventually get to a point where the number of qubits is really not tied to any of the underlying hardware components in the system.
Yeah. This is John Yes, I think that's a great question. So the first question too is we are where actually we've actually been on a trend to make sure that our quantum computers become more software configurable, meaning we don't we'd like to eventually get to a point, where the number of cubic's is really not tied to any of the hardware.
Our underlying hardware components in the system. So inq Forte takes a big step in that direction in the sense that in the previous systems. We had a 32 fixed beams and that that's what limits. The number of maximum cubist 232, but with the steering system. We actually have that are very much on the software control also.
So IonCube Forte takes a big step in that direction, in the sense that in the previous systems, we had 32 fixed beams. And that's what limits the number of maximum qubits to 32. But with this steering system, we actually have that very much under software control. So at this point, the Forte can actually, the control system we have in Forte can actually address more than 40 qubits.
At this point the Forte Oh can actually are the control system. We have in forte connects to address a more than 40 cubit. Although you know there are other reasons why are we were actually not exactly operating at those levels yet, but these are kind of technological pieces, we're putting together so that in the future all quantum computers will be.
Although, you know, there are other reasons why we're actually not exactly operating at those levels yet. But these are kind of technological pieces we're putting together so that in the future our quantum computers will become much more scalable and not necessarily tied, the qubit numbers are not necessarily tied to the hardware.
Some much more scalable and not necessarily tied to.
<unk> numbers are not necessarily tied to the hardware. So and then the second the answer to your second question is yes. Indeed, it turns out that using this beam steering approach, we can actually make the delay.
So, and then the second, the answer to your second question is, yes, indeed it turns out that using this beam steering approach.
We can actually make the laser beam that addresses the ions to be much more stable and actually be less susceptible to some fluctuations in the system. So indeed, we're seeing that our K-fidelities are getting better.
The laser beam that address this the I used to be much more stable and actually be less susceptible to some fluctuations in the system. Also indeed were seeing that art gave fidelities or getting better.
And I think we can also deliver more power to the system. So I think we have a lot of room to continue to improve the gate speed in the systems as well.
I think we can also deliver more power to the system. So I think we have a lot of room to continue to improve the gait speed into systems as well.
Great question. Thank you for that. Second question was just on now that you announced sort of 4-T and sort of beta availability second half of.
That's great. Thank you for that.
Second question was just on now that you've announced sort of.
<unk> and sort of data availability second half of this year with broader availability next year I think Peter in the past you've sort of said that the.
this year with broader availability next year. I think Peter in the past you sort of said that the public cloud systems, you know, may be sort of the generation minus one. And so as forte becomes public or becomes available to expect R.A. to sort of come to the cloud.
Cloud systems, maybe sort of the generation minus one and so as <unk> becomes public or it becomes available do you expect oriented to sort of come to the cloud.
sort of second half of this year once Forte is available to private beta customers.
Second half of this year once <unk> is available to public to.
Private beta customers.
Yep, nope. I think you're seeing what I said in action, if you will. R is just coming to the cloud. And at the same time, we're announcing the current generation. And we haven't announced that that would go to the cloud yet. And then the last please go ahead.
Yes no.
I think you're you're seeing what I said.
Action, if you will or is just coming to the cloud and at the same time, we're announcing of the current generation.
And we haven't announced that that would go to the cloud yet.
Okay, and then lastly.
Oh go ahead.
Yeah, no. It just it kind of just following that trend.
Got it. And then just possibly for Thomas, I'm wondering if you might be willing to sort of give us, you know, on the revenue forecast of 10.2 to 10.7 this year that you're reiterating, can you give us some sense of what you would think the EBITDA loss might be at that revenue level? Just trying to get a sense of what you expect OPEX might look like over the balance.
Got it and then just lastly for Thomas.
I'm wondering if you might be <unk> be willing to sort of give us on the revenue forecast of 10, two to $10. Seven this year that you're reiterating can you give us some sense of what you would what you would think the EBITA loss might be at that revenue level, just trying to get a sense of what you expect opex might look like.
Over the balance of the year.
So I think that we shouldn't expect huge variations on that front because when we increase bookings towards the end of the year or in the second half, there will be less impact on the REVRAC line, which is what flows down to EBITDA.
So.
I think that we shouldn't expect a huge variations on that front because when we do when we increased bookings towards the end of the year or in the second half.
It'll be a less impact on the Rev. Rec line, which is what flows down to EBITDA.
But, I mean, I think you did 10.3 of adjusted EBITDA loss in Q1. Do you think something in the $40 to $50 million EBITDA loss is the right level to be thinking about based on the $10.2 to $10.7 million revenue? I assume that OPEX probably has some upward bias over the course of the year.
Pardon me I think you did 10 three of adjusted EBITDA loss in Q1, do you think something in the $40 million to $50 million EBITDA losses, as the right level to be thinking about based on the 10.2 to $10 7 million revenue.
Assume that Opex, probably has some upward bias over the course of the year.
is who we're holding firm at our previously stated EBITDA loss of 55.
So we're holding firm at our previously stated EBITDA loss of 55.
Yeah.
It will not, it should not increase the loss because even if we have to build these things as well of course. Okay.
It will not.
It should not increase the loss because even if we have to build these things as well of course.
Perfect. Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session and I would like to turn the call back to Peter Chapman for closing remarks.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session and I would like to turn the call back to Peter Chapman for closing remarks.
Yeah.
Well, thank you all for joining our Q1 2022 earnings call and for all your thoughtful questions.
Well. Thank you all for joining our Q1 2022 earnings call and for all your thoughtful questions.
We'd like, I'd like to also thank the entire I&Q team for all their hard work that has brought us to this point, to new heights for this quarter. And we look forward to seeing everyone in the Q2 earnings call next quarter. So thank you again for joining us.
We'd like I'd like to also thank the entire inq team for all their hard work that has brought us.
To this point to new Heights for this quarter.
And we look forward to seeing everyone in the Q2 earnings call next quarter.
So thank you again for joining and have a great evening.
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This concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.
This concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining US you may now disconnect your lines.