Q2 2022 Linamar Corp Earnings Call
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Linamar Q2 2022 Earnings Conference call.
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Today's call is being recorded on Wednesday, August 10, 2022, and I would now like to turn the conference over to Linda Hasenfrath, Executive Chair of the Board and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon everyone and welcome to our second quarter conference call. Joining me this afternoon are members of my executive team, Jim Gerald, Dale Schneider, Roger Fulton and some members of our corporate IR marketing finance and legal team.
Before I begin, I will draw your attention to the disclaimer that is currently being broadcast.
I'll start off with a review of sales, earnings, and content.
Fails through the quarter were $1.98 billion, up 25.8% last year on recovery markets and market share growth. Normalized net earnings were $109.3 million. Earnings are up over last year on strongly sales despite massively higher costs, a lack of subsidies in comparison to prior year and a drag from foreign exchange.
Our industrial segment had a group order on the top line with sales up at both Maxon and Skyjack on stronger market, market share growth and better pricing that was imposed both in January and again in May. We also had the benefit of a month of our new agricultural business, Sulfur. That said, higher cost related to materials, labor, freight and utilities had a major negative impact to the bottom line in both industrial businesses in comparison to prior year.
In addition, we had a bad debt reversal that benefited Q2 of last year that is negatively impacting the year-over-year comparison.
The mobility business has strong quarter thanks to strong North American market launches and increased pricing related to cost recovery, partially offsetting associated material, utility and freight costs.
We continue to work with our customers globally to try to recover some of these massive cost increases.
We also thought the impact of our Mills River Foundry acquisition from our JV partner, losing this loss-making facility into operation instead of below the line in prior quarters. We have a plan in place we are steadily executing on to bring the facility to profitability, which we expect will happen within the next year.
We saw strong growth in content for vehicles in our core North American and European regions, reaching the highest content to date in both regions, which is great to see. Launches are a big part of that, as are vehicles that we have high content on being selectively prioritized for build by our customers.
North American sales growth was particularly notable, up 47% over a prior year and a market of just 12%.
Commercial and industrial sales were up 22.9% with growth at both Skyjacked and Macked On on market growth and market share growth. Skyjacked saw market share gains in scissors globally and in bins in North America, which coupled with a market update in high signal digits translated to some solid sales growth. Macked On is seeing supply chain issues easing somewhat and allowing them to start fulfilling a deep backlog. For more information, visit www.m MackedOn.com.
Market share is growing in all core products globally, which is fantastic to see. We also had one month of results for sulfur helping to grow our egg sales.
CAPS continues to climb back to higher levels to support launching business.
2022 will be up significantly from 2021 and in our normal range as a percent of sales, as will 2023.
Freetash flow was slightly negative in the quarter thanks to a draw on non-cash working capital driving out of that big sales increase.
Despite such, we do expect to see solvably positive pre-cash flows for the full year this year grabbing out of the back half.
2023 should see strongly positive pre-cash flow.
We have 1.4 billion dollars of liquidity available to us, which is also excellent.
With free cash flow relatively flat, an active NCIV program and two acquisitions in a quarter, we are back into a modest net debt position of $337 million compared to about $200 million at the same time last year. The average remains very strong at just 0.35 times net debt to EBITDA.
We purchased more than 1.3 million shares back under the NCIB in the second quarter for a year-to-date total of 1.9 million before we entered Q2 blackout in early July . Our strong balance sheet and liquidity means we have the ability to continue to pursue acquisition opportunities as they arrive in a dynamic market and thrive even more growth.
Let's turn to a quick update on some of the headwinds we're facing at the moment around 5 chain issues, energy costs, logistics costs, and labor shortages.
This slide gives a good high-level summary of the issues and their current status. We're seeing improvements in several areas. For instance, chip shortage shutdowns are becoming less frequent. Shipping costs are leveling and declining. Commodity prices are generally declining and supply chain availability is improving in some areas but still a challenge in others.
Labor availability continues to be a challenge, primarily in North America and Europe , and most acutely in the U.S. And of course, energy prices are remaining very high.
Looking more closely at a few of these areas, you can see on the chipped impact, the predictability of volume loss has really improved.
If you look at the top left chart, you can see that 720,000 less vehicles were built in Q2 regarding chip shortages than were planned at the beginning of the quarter compared to much higher figures in earlier quarters.
That doesn't mean everyone has the chips they want. It just means they're planning less bills and getting supplies less, which is a good thing for volatility, which is very disruptive.
Ship availability is improving somewhat with additional capacity coming online at the moment.
More meaningful capacity will come online next year to further augment vehicle build levels and satisfy that deep backlog and need to refill the pipeline of inventory on dealer lot.
We're seeing good improvements in several commodity areas such as steel and aluminum, which is positive.
Although metal market adjustments in the mobility business help to offset these changes, they do not offset 100%. And with this magnitude of change, we are feeling the impact most deeply in our casting business.
The industrial businesses, of course, feel the full brunt of these costs until price increases flow to offset, which of course has already started to happen.
We are also seeing a big issue in the ability of suppliers to meet demand, notably on the industrial side, which impacts not just costs, but our ability to meet production needs for a rebounding market. It's also very disruptive on the productivity side, which is particularly driving labor costs at.
The issues are starting to improve on the MacDon side of the business as illustrated by these charts, with assembly line shortages down and header production up.
But unfortunately, they are still a big issue for Skyjack. You can see here the issues are improving at Skyjack as well, but more slowly.
Ocean freight costs are still well above normal levels, but we have seen costs level off in Europe and they are trending down in Asia.
Energy costs are still a major issue for us, notably in Europe , and have become more of an issue globally as well. Natural gas prices in Europe are up massively over the last year, and for that matter, what we've seen for the last decade. We're certainly feeling the impact of that in our European plan.
Natural gas in the US has spiked up over the past few months as well as you can see and it's starting to be an issue.
On the positive side, energy costs for us are typically 1-2% of sales in most of our factories, but much higher of course in our foundries.
So, not a massive weighting overall in our cross-structure, but even something small can have a really big impact if the change is substantial, which is exactly what we're seeing.
We're at the same time actively engaging our plants in energy conservation and off-grid energy projects to reduce our dependence and costs.
Unfortunately, I don't see these costs regulating anytime soon.
Finally, we're seeing a real shortage in availability of labor at the moment, acceleration of retirement, insufficient immigration, notably in the US, and lingering effects of COVID on the number of workers is the issue. This puts pressure on cost, of course, both in terms of wage inflation, but also in terms of higher recruiting and retraining costs.
Unfortunately, wage inflation is not something that would be considered transitory.
So, to summarize on the challenges side, higher labor and energy costs likely here to stay, shipping costs and commodities tapering back, better supply of chips in the back half of the year and next year are going to enable higher and more consistent levels of vehicle bill.
Obviously, the fact that some of these higher costs are not transitory means we must keep cost recoveries from our customers and are diligently pursuing such. We have had some success in recent months to offset at least a portion of the cost and we continue to pursue added relief with additional customers.
I'll now turn to the market outlook. Market demand is strong pretty much across the board at the moment, which is great news and expected to be strong next year as well. Unfortunately, supply chain issues are constraining industry's ability to deliver that demand denotedly on the industrial side.
With strong underlying demand, we'll be looking at a sustained period of strong performance for some time after these issues get resolved.
Turning to the specific figures, industry experts are predicting growing light vehicle volumes globally this year, so 14.7 million, 15.3 million, and 44.8 million vehicles in North America, Europe , and Asia respectively.
This represents double digit growth in North America, but single digit growth in Europe and Asia.
2023 should see high single digit or double digit growth in all three regions.
Semiconductor chip supply, war-related supply chain issues mainly in Europe , and China lockdowns continue to create volatility in customer schedules putting predicted volumes at risk.
Industry experts are predicting on highway medium heavy track volumes to be up in North America this year but down in EU and Asia. Next year we will see contraction in North America and Asia but growth in Europe .
Industry experts predict double-digit growth in the access market globally this year in all three regions of North America, Europe and Asia, and double-digit growth for the overall market in 2023.
Our backlog of Skyjack is up meaningfully from prior year at nearly two and a half times thanks to robust market demand.
Delivery of orders is being impacted by those supply chain challenges. However, as we work through these issues, we feel confident we can grow Skyjack in double digits this year and next year based on this exceptionally strong backlog and strong market conditions.
Lastly, the ag industry is predicting solid growth in the Combine Grayford header market this year in double digits in North America.
Europe and the rest of the world will also grow, but at a more moderate 5%. We're also seeing solid pickup in the wind roller market this year again with 7% growth in North America, but 20-25% growth in Europe and Australia. The order's look is up over last year with farmers feeling more confident with persistently strong commodity prices. Meeting demand is a big challenge from Acton regarding supply chain and logistics issues and is the limiting factor to growth.
as opposed to demand. That said, our current forecast is for double digit growth this year and continued growth next year from MacDon on the back, a solid market growth, continued market share growth and a strong backlog.
Looking at a little more detail on the auto side, you can see inventory levels in North America have continued to languish well below historic levels, sitting at only 26 days at the end of July . What this means is regardless of consumer demand, we're in for a sustained period of strong production levels just to replenish inventory once the piping issues are resolved. The industry is predicting at least two years just to refill the pipeline regardless of demand. Let's talk about the economic situation in South America and the farmers. South America oil and gas is getting toobased on its deeply
In looking at production levels compared to what was forecast at our last conference call, you can see a slightly weaker Q2 basically all driving out of Asia thanks to the lockdowns in China. That said, Q3 is actually looking much stronger, up from Q2, prior forecast and prior year. Q3 compared to Q3 last year is now forecast to be up 21%. For the full year, 2022 is expected to be slightly better than prior forecast and up
Looking at the access market in more detail, you can see first that both the North American and European markets showed double digit growth over prior year in Q2 and as noted, expressed double digit growth this year and a similar picture in 2023. Utilization in North America flowed a little during Q2 but was trending back up to 2019 and rose as at the end of the quarter.
Utilization levels in Europe are trending well above 2019 levels.
Asia was down and she's too likely related to shutdowns in China but still expecting double digit growth for the TIR-NUH.
In the agricultural business, two-two combine retails in North America are down slightly over prior year up in Canada, but down in the US, thanks to supply chain issues across the board.
Despite the slow start, it is noted that we expect the market to grow both this year and next year for both three-four headers and windrowers.
Turning to an update on growth and outlook, you'll be pleased to know that we had another outstanding quarter in new business wins and more notable wins in the electrified space.
I'll highlight a couple of our more strategic wins in a moment.
Electrified vehicles continue to provide great opportunities for us. We had a huge quarter in terms of new business wins for both battery electric and hybrid electric vehicles. In fact, in just two quarters, our new business wins for electrified vehicles are nearly two and a half times what they were for all of 2021, as you can see on this chart.
Lamentum is clearly building in our portfolio of these important vehicles of the future. At this point close to half of book sales in 2026 in our mobility business is for non-ICE vehicle powertrain products. A huge shift from less than 25% in that category in 2021.
With respect to launches, we are seeing ramping volumes on launching programs which are predicted to reach 35 to 45 percent of material levels this year, generating incremental sales of 500 to 600 million. Next year, we'll see incremental sales growth of 800 to 900 million. These programs will peak at nearly 4.9 billion in sales.
We saw a shift of nearly $65 million to programs moving from launch to production last quarter, which was more than offset by very strong business wins in the quarter.
As usual, we are summarizing all of these expectations on our Outlook slide, which is now being displayed.
Despite the challenges we're facing, we are still expecting to see double-digit growth on the top line and high single-digit growth in earnings per share in 2022. We expect to see double-digit top and bottom line growth next year as well.
This rise from double-dish growth at both Skyjack and MacDon this year coupled with solid launches in a growing market on the mobility side. Next year we will see continued growth in both segments as well.
Net margins will contract somewhat compared to last year on the back of those higher material energy freight and labor costs. Next year we do expect net margins to expand back into our normal range.
We also see continued positive free cash flow this year and next, leaving us in an excellent position from which to drive for the growth.
Looking specifically at Q3, you should expect sales modestly up from Q2 2022 and more meaningfully up from prior year. Both segments will show a similar pattern.
Industrial segment margins will be modestly better than Q2, but not nearly as good as Q3 2021 due to the much higher cost levels that they are experiencing. Improvements sequentially are thanks to a full quarter in Salford and modest improvements on the supply chain side, which of course is not fully determinable at this time.
On the mobility side, margins should modestly improve in comparison to both Q2 of this year and Q3 of last year.
All of that boils down to net earnings in Q3 2022, up from both Q2 of this year and Q3 of last year.
Roger would like me to again remind you that the situation is very dynamic and the impact is not fully determinable in terms of the impact at this time. So, notable risk areas are supply chain, lockouts in China, and geopolitical risks.
Last quarter, we announced two exciting strategic acquisitions, which I'm pleased to announce both flows in the timeframe and manner expected. We are actively working on integrating both teams into the Linnemar family, which is going very well. For more information, visit www.linnemar.gov
This quarter I'd like to highlight Skyjax's global expansion plan. We are increasing our global footprint at Skyjax to meet a strongly growing market and growing market share both here in North America and internationally. As noted last quarter, we are adding capacity in China. We are also adding capacity here in Canada. We are adding in Mexico and continuing to add product capacity to our facility in Hungary.
We'll also be furthering investing in innovation in the Canadian hub where the team is headquartered to continue to develop the products and processes gaining such excellent international recognition for skyjacks.
Moving on to new business wins on the mobility side, Iíll highlight a few of our more interesting wins this quarter. First up, we won a few programs for cylinder heads for hybrid electric vehicles. They are worth an aggregate more than $40 million a year in revenue. Secondly, we had a very exciting win in the quarter for a commercial vehicle, e-axle. This is for a medium duty vehicle.
The system will be used in electrically driven delivery trucks and is our first full e-axle for the commercial vehicle sector. Lindemar will be the system integrator responsible for all elements of the e-axle including the motor and the controller. We are very excited about this wind.
Finally, we saw several different program wins for a variety of body, chassis and e-axle components for battery electric vehicles in both North America and Europe . In aggregate, these programs represent more than $90 million a year in revenue, adding steadily to our backlog for battery electric vehicles.
Turning to an innovation update, I'm excited to share the newest product from our recently acquired salt work division. The HALO BRT is an industry leading advanced soil tillage design. BRT stands for variable rate tillage. Traditional tillage is typically performed the same way throughout an entire field. Modern precision agriculture has proven that tillage requirements vary within the same field. HALO BRT allows for the tillage setting to change on the go.
to adjust tillage depth, improve soil leveling, or avoid unnecessary soil disruption altogether in isolated areas. Just another example of the focus Linnemar's agricultural portfolio was putting into leading innovation in crop production.
From Skyjack, we're excited about the new articulating boom model that was launched in Europe . The SJ45AJ has been adapted for the European market and is specified to CE certification. The 45-foot boom comes equipped with Skyjack's trademark smart torque technology. Smart torque is the four-wheel drive system that delivers an optimized balance of engine horsepower, torque, and horsepower.
and hydraulic performance, resulting in a cost-effective solution for both emissions regulations and for schools.
This latest boom model was developed with field data inputs that were gathered over several years from our advanced Elevate telematics package. This data enabled Skyjack to design the smart torque system to a size and power requirement that offers customers the most efficient package for their investment. That means they are not purchasing a piece of equipment that's too big for the job. This is another reason why Skyjack's booms have been gaining popularity and market share in the European market over the past number of years.
Finally, we continue to execute on our global digitization journey with more and more connected machines, data connections, and robots being commissioned in our global plants every day. With that, I will turn it over to our CFO Dale Schneider to lead us through a more in-depth financial review of these apps.
Thank you Linda.
Good afternoon everyone. As Linda noted, Q2 is a great quarter for sales and earnings despite the continuation of the supply chain issues impacting sales and the other costs and issues that are further impacting our earnings net of the customer's recovery you are able to achieve.
Q2 with another solid quarter for cash flows after considering the purchase and close the two acquisitions in the quarter.
As a result, we were able to maintain a strong level of liquidity at $1.4 billion.
For the quarter, sales increased 25.8% to almost $2 billion.
Earnings are normalized for any FX gains or losses related to the revaluation of the balance sheet and potentially other items that may have occurred. In the quarter, earnings were normalized for FX losses related to the revaluation of the balance sheet which impacted EPS by 7 cents per share.
Normalized operating earnings for the quarter were $149.2 million.
This compares to $152.2 million in Q2 last year, a decrease of $3 million or 2%.
Normalized net earnings increased $2.4 million or 2.2% in the quarter to reach $109.3 million.
fully normalized.
Fully diluted normalize EPS increased by 5 cents per share.
or 3.1% to $1.68.
Included in net earnings for the quarter was a foreign exchange loss of $6.3 million, which resulted from a $5.4 million loss related to the reevaluation of operating balances and a $900,000 loss related to the revaluation of financing balance.
As I mentioned, the FX loss impacted the quarter's EPS by seven cents.
From a business segment perspective, the Q2FX loss of $5.4 million related to the reevaluation of operating balances was the result of a $9.7 million loss in industrial and a $4.3 million gain in mobility.
Further looking at the segments.
Industrial sales increased by 28.2% or $111.1 million to $504.6 million in the quarter.
The sales increase for the quarter was due to the higher agricultural sales driven by growth in both the global markets and in our global market shares for our products.
Higher access equipment sales driven from stronger volumes in North America and by market share gains in both scissors and booms.
Additionally, higher sales prices that we have achieved to help release some of the supply cost issues and pressures. And finally, as Linda noted, the acquisition of sulfur did add one month of sales to the quarter.
As industrial operating earnings for Q2 decreased by 16.9 million or 25.5% over last year to 49.4 million.
The primary drivers impacting industrial earnings were the Q2-21 reversal of provisions for receivables that we were able to collect last year.
The ongoing supply chain issues impacting raw material, labor, freight, and utility costs.
The fact that there was no government support for COVID-19 this year compared to last year.
the negative impact of FX rate changes since last year, and these are obviously partially offset by the increased contribution from the strong agricultural equipment volumes and the increased contribution from the access equipment volumes.
Turning to mobility, sales increased by 295.2 million or 25% over Q2 last year to 1.5 billion.
The sales increase in the second quarter was primarily driven by the stronger volumes on the improving customer supply chain situation. Loss recovery is achieved in a quarter from our customers.
The sales impact of fully consolidating GFL is now 100% owned.
and the increased volumes on launching programs and certain other high demand programs.
These are partially offset by the negative impact of changes in FX rate since last year.
Due to normalized operating earnings for mobility, we are higher by $13.9 million or 16.2% over last year.
In the quarter, mobility earnings were impacted by the increased contribution from the improving supply chain issues of our customers, the increased contribution on the higher launch volumes and higher demand.
high demand price as well.
These are partially offset by operating earnings impact from fully consulting GFL.
once again from having no government support this year compared to last year for COVID and the increased raw material freight utility cost net of the customer recoveries.
Returning to the overall Lenemar results, the company's gross margin was $249.9 million, an increase of $21.4 million compared to last year and this was due to the same factors that drove this segment.
Cog Xamarinization.
As a percentage of sales reduced to 5.6%, but remained relatively flat at $110 million.
SG&A costs increased in the quarter by $100.7 million from $77 million last year. The increase is primarily due to the Q2-21 reversal provisions that occurred last year. These travel costs as global travel restrictions continue to be relaxed.
the acquisition costs related to GFL and Salford, and once again the fact that we have no government support related to COVID this year.
Finance expenses increased $4.2 million since last year.
Due to the lower interest earned and declining long-term receivable balances, the additional interest expense due to the Bank of Canada rate increases,
The increased debt due to the acquisition and share buyback programs that we complete in the quarter.
and the negative impact of changes in Africa's rates on our debt since Q2 last year.
As a result, the consolidated effective interest rate for the quarter was 2.1%.
Effective tax rate for the second quarter decreased to 24.8% compared to last year, mainly due to the decrease in non-deductible expenses compared to last year.
a decrease in tax expense now that GFL is fully owned, and this was partially offset by an unfavorable mix of foreign tax rates.
We are still expecting the 2022 full year effective tax rate to be in the range of 24 to 26 percent and consistent with the 2021 full year tax rate.
Linnemar's cash position was $877.5 million on June 30, an increase of $145.9 million compared to June 2021.
The second quarter generated 66.4 million cash from operating activities, which was used partially to fund CapEx.
with the proceeds from debt being used to fund acquisitions and share buybacks.
As a result, net debt to EBITDA increased to 0.35 times in the quarter from 0.17 times a year ago, mainly due to the acquisitions completed and the shared buyback program.
Based on our current estimates, we are expecting 2022 to maintain our strong balance sheet and leverage is expected to remain low.
The amount of available credit on our credit facilities was $527 million at the end of the quarter. Our available liquidity at the end of Q2 remains strong at $1.4 billion. As a result, we currently believe we still have sufficient liquidity to satisfy our financial obligations during 2022.
To recap, sales and earnings for the quarter was a story of improving markets and increasing market shares in both segments.
The supply chain shortages that have been hampering OEM production requirements have started to see some improvements and additionally helping mobility sales and earnings.
Subtitling related costs increases continue to impact both segments earnings though.
The good news is that costs increase September with the sales price increases.
within the industrial and cost recoveries within mobility.
Despite these challenges and with the two acquisitions in the corridor, we're still able to maintain a strong low liquidity of 1.4 billion.
So that concludes my commentary and I'd now like to open it up for questions.
Thank you, sir.
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Your first question will come from Mark Neville of Scotia Capital. Please go ahead.
Excuse me. Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for the time. Maybe just first on
the recoveries in automotive or mobility. I think on a sequential basis sales were up about 70 million dollars and production was Roughly flat I think So I guess how much of that would be?
next to business versus recoveries and again ultimately what I'm trying to get out here is trying to understand the cost of inflation for the year and sort of how far along the way in recovering some of this cost you are.
We are not releasing specific details around what the cost recoveries were. These are related ongoing discussions we are having with customers and we donít feel comfortable disclosing it. Obviously, it was a material amount and had a notable impact on the quarter. I can tell you that if I consideredÖ
you know, where we're going to be in coming quarters in the guidance that I gave you. So I suggest you circle back to that and I think you'll be able to figure out figure it out to yourself.
Sure. Okay.
Just on the, maybe on the industrial margin.
presumably lower commodity price relief would help but the big improvement margin, I mean will that have to wait until sort of next year when prices are reset?
Yeah, I mean, absolutely on both segments, but certainly the mobility segment is performing well below levels that we would expect it to from a margin perspective, and it's all related to these higher costs. We do expect to see improvements as we get into next year. I, you know...
There will be some improvement in the back half of the year, but so more meaningful I would say next year.
On the industrial side, Mark, the prices in the Ag side are pretty well locked for the year, right, in 2022. And then on the industrial Skyjack side, there was some relief that we were able to play through during the year. So we're getting, as Linda said, some of that. And so now we're really setting into 2023 Ag and sort of Skyjack industrial prices. And the way we're playing that out is to set them.
I mean, if my math is correct, I think that would require roughly $5 in earnings in the back half for share. I know you're not giving specific guidance, but...
Is that in the ballpark of what you're thinking? I mean, we're not going to give you a number for the back half, but I'm telling you earnings share we think can be in the high single digits.
Okay, I'll do my own last bit. I appreciate it. Thanks for your time.
Question.
Your next question comes from Krista Friesen of CIBC. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking my question and congrats on a great quarter. I was just wondering if you could give some color around what you're hearing from your customers in Europe and
specifically around energy prices and what level of concern they have or if there are any precautions that are being taken at this time.
Yeah, I mean, it's obviously a key area of concern. Prices are way up, potentially going higher, and everybody's pretty sensitive to it. Yeah, I mean, so again, part of the recovery that we have been doing this year, specifically in Europe , has been around energy. Not getting full recovery with any of our customers, but getting an adequate recovery, for sure. But going into next year, we think that the OEMs in Europe may be trying to come up with a scenario to...
come out to the supply base with, but our focus is really to work with each customer and say, hey, do you want to lock in? Do you want to float? And really try and lock down those agreements with them because next year looks pretty unpredictable, but definitely going up further.
Right. I was just wondering on the industrial side of the business, I know you're not really as hedged there on commodity prices as you are on the mobility side, but are there discussions now after going through the last several quarters of so much volatility to have some pricing mechanisms put in place or is that just not as accepted in that industry?
with the supplier or you're talking the customer side?
customer side. Yeah, with the transfer. She makes the commodity.
You're talking the commodity cost. The commodity cost, yes.
Yeah, I mean we do, like, both businesses treat it a little bit differently. So, MapJohn does do some forward purchases. It depends on the product and it depends on the market. So, we're really trying to gauge where we think things are going and lock in where we think it's appropriate and then not lock in in other areas. You know, it's a bit of a dynamic approach.
And then on the customer side, I mean, they really don't treat indices like they would in the auto sector, so you've got to try and come up with your pricing plan ahead of time.
Great, thanks. I'll jump back in the queue.
Your next question comes from Peter Sklar of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Hi, on the industrial side, like you indicated that
supply chain.
Disruptions are easing.
So is that true for both the ag business and Skyjack and?
Which one is it more severe in right now? Sound it like.
supply chain is more of an issue for Skyjack now. I think I picked that up from your comments. So if you could just kind of run through that. Yeah, sure. So there was a slide. We can pull it back up. Looking at the supply chain issues for the two businesses. So, the situation has improved. You can see on, I think,
You can see on the slide that...
You can see assembly line shortages declining and completed header production meaning fully built on the line without having to be pulled off to wait for something that was missing is increasing. Things have definitely improved at Maston. Itís not perfect by any stretch. There still are issues that theyíre dealing with but it has definitely improved from where it was earlier in the year which is why
They had a stronger quarter than you might expect with the Ag market down in North America overall although notably up a little bit in Canada. But if we go to the next slide, you can see Skyjacked, slight improvement, like definitely a little better than it was earlier in the year but not a huge amount of improvement. So I would say Skyjacked at the moment is struggling a little bit more than Macon did. I would probably say six months ago I would have said...
as well as solve for the theater.
So, the issue there then is it's all supply chain.
Yeah. Yeah, I would say labor supply chain which are sort of one on the same if you break it down to the root cause.
Yeah, okay. And while we're on industrial, like there's just so much activity there, you know, with acquisitions and
some of these dynamics that we talked about. Can you just give us some guidance on seasonality now through the quarters of the year?
you know, with all these acquisitions and everything.
I'm not too sure how the seasonality looks for this business. I think we're getting sort of used to Salford right now. Yeah. I mean, it's a little more difficult to call right now, Peter, just because the seasonality is being a little bit equipped by these by-chain issues. So, you know, whereas Q4 is normally your slowest quarter, you know, it may not be quite as slow if we can recover some of the side-chain side, right?
Certainly, Q4 is slower, Q2 and Q3 are the strongest, Q4, Q1 the slowest, but the supply chain stuff is kind of playing with patterns a little bit at the moment. Yes, and I'd say we're learning like that would be traditional MACDO and Skyjack and we're learning a little bit with Salford right now that
The summer months are probably a little bit slower. You've got the fall that's a little better, and then you've got February through May that are strong. That's what we're seeing. But as Linda said, if you have a strong order book, if you can get the parts, you can ship any kind. Yeah, exactly. The nice thing with SALPA coming into the fold is, as Jim described, the seasonality is slightly different. So because they're tillage, they're more...
in the spring, you know, macton is harvesting, that's in the fall, so, you know, they do help to complement each other a little bit. Yeah, and Pierre and I would add that if you look at it from a sales perspective.
Sulfur is not as material as either SkyJack or Mactan. So it may, as Linda commented on, it may adjust seasonality, but I wouldn't expect it to materially change. Good point.
Okay. And like, why did that, like, if you look at the industrial segment as an overall, what then why did the operating earnings improve so much in Q2 versus Q1? Like, I'm just looking here. So you did.
49 million of operating earnings in Q2, but only 13 million.
Q1, is that the improvement in the supply chain and the impact it's having on your results? I mean the supply chain but also as we talked about there was some pass through of customer pricing. So Skyjack had a second price increase that went through at the beginning of May that was helpful. The mix was different. Q1 had a poor showing at MacDon because they had all those supply chain issues and they have a much higher level.
So, MacDon had a much stronger quarter in 2-2, so that had a big impact on the quarter over former or just sequential from the other side as well.
Okay.
Oh, and sorry, just one last question.
Like when you're going through your commentary, you said the consolidation of GFL had a negative impact on results. So is that?
Is that is that is it operating at a loss because you're still ramping the diecast operation? Is that what's going on there?
Yeah, exactly. It's not unusual for a foundry to take a little longer to get up into profitability than a machining operation, but of course, they're also highly challenged by all the challenges that the industry is facing, particularly around energy and material logistics costs. They are still in a lost position because they are still ramping.
Okay, that's all I have. Thank you.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from Brian Morrison of TD Securities. Please go
Thank you. Good afternoon. I just have a couple of clarification questions because the quarter seems pretty good here. Linda, in Q1, your comment on the mobility side was that sales would be at best equal to Q1, but you beat by 5% relative to the Q1 number. I respect you don't want to get into the cost recovery, but your volumes are the same.
your George Fisher was known, launches really didn't change. Is it fair to say that the difference between your performance in Q2 and Q1? That's the biggest contributor is the cost recovery.
I wouldn't put it all on that no. I mean there was a pretty big increase in sales compared to Q1. I would say it's obviously more than we have been expecting but I do think we saw production levels with our customers a little higher than what we had what we've been expecting. So that was part of it and then part of it would be the recovery.
Okay, so industry volumes were as expected, but your customer specifics were higher than what you thought.
Yes. Okay, fair enough. And then just clarification, in your guidance for the operating margin for mobility in 2022, it says modest contraction, then 23 expands back into normal range. I just want to be clear, you're saying that the normal margin, you should be below the normal margin range for 2022. That's correct?
with respect to the 2021.
level.
So 2021 was 8.4%. So I'm saying it's going to be a modest contraction to that. I am not saying it.
where it's going to land in comparison to the range.
Okay, modest contraction in my book is like 25 basis points, but you're saying that Q3 is going to be similar to Q2. You're kind of tracking in that six and three quarter range as you get through Q3 based on your guidance. It's certainly not a modest contraction. It's very good performance, but it's well below 8.4. That's fair to say.
Yeah, I mean I guess it depends on your definition of modest. Your definition and my definition appear to be slightly different.
Okay, and then the base level of earnings for last year normalized to $6.50 basically as well, correct?
For normalized earnings for last year? Yep.
is how much I have to be honest.
That's what you're basing the number off.
6.53 is normalized earnings from last year.
All right, well done. Thank you kindly.
Thank you.
There are no further questions from the phone lines. I would like to turn the conference back to Linda Hasenfratz for closing remarks.
Thank you so much. To conclude this evening, I'd like to, as always, leave you with three key messages. First, we're very pleased to see market dynamics starting to improve. Markets are improving in all of our businesses. Market share is growing, and some relief is starting to flow on customer pricing related to higher costs. We're very pleased to see market dynamics starting to flow on customer pricing related to higher costs.
Secondly, we continue to strongly execute on electrified new business wins in our mobility business. 74% of wins year-to-date are electrified, well over double the dollar value of all of our 2021 in just two quarters and an important strategic win in the commercial EAC space. And finally, we are actively returning cash to shareholders through our NCIB with nearly 1.9 million shares were purchased, more than 1.3 million in Q2 alone and continue to execute on cash.
Thanks very much everybody and have a great evening. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude your conference call for this afternoon. We would like to thank you all for your participation and ask you to please disconnect your lines.
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