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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator.
Welcome to the BEREC 2022 2nd Quarter Results Conference call.
During the presentation, all participants will be in listen-only mode.
and the conference is being recorded.
Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. At the time, if you have any questions, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. At any time during the conference call, should you need operator assistance, please press star then zero. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded at a replay available on Barrick's website later today, August 8, 2022. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Bristow, Chief Executive Officer.
Please go ahead, sir. Thank you very much, and good morning and good afternoon ladies and gentlemen.
and welcome to our Quarter 2 results update.
At the halfway mark of the year, Barracks Performance and Prospects continue to show the steady progress we envisaged at the time of the strategic merger.
When we radically changed its trajectory and started the journey towards a future forward business.
We have built a team and a structure capable of dealing with a range of global economic...
social and political challenges.
that are getting increasingly complex.
We drove ownership of our bodies.
at the Mindsight and rationalised our portfolio to focus on world-class assets.
We've shaken off the debt burden, strengthen the balance sheet, and introduce the dividend policy supported by our sustainably profitable strategy. We've shaken off the debt burden, strengthen the balance sheet, profitable strategy.
Our exploration teams continue to replenish reserves depleted by mining, and in pursuit of our new Tier 1 discoveries, we continue to
and our growth opportunities.
We've expanded our footprint across nearly all the worlds.
major gold and copper regions.
on every front.
We're closing in on our goal of becoming the world's most valued mining company.
At this point, I draw your attention to the usual cautionary statement shown here and is also available on our website.
And now we can get to get onto the results for the quarter.
In a testing operating environment, the team produced a stronger performance across the portfolio to keep us on track to meet our production guidance for the year.
At the same time, we've made significant progress in advancing our major capital projects.
notably the massive expansion of Pablo Wecho in the Dominican Republic and the start of the public comment stage on the Gold Rush development in Nevada.
The prospectivity of our copper portfolio is growing and our energised brown fields and green fields The exploration continues to deliver results. The exploration continues to deliver results.
earnings were ahead of market consensus
and we maintain the quarterly dividend.
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There were improvements across the board and particularly at Colin.
and turquoise ridge in Nevada. Valadera in Argentina, bullion hulu and North Mara in Tanzania, and Le Moana in Zambia, with strong gold production expected from Cortes, in quarter four, and copper production likely to be slightly up on the second half, we are still forecasting to be within annual production gardens.
Due to higher energy prices which flowed through to the cost of consumables and global supply challenges, both provoked by the crisis in Ukraine, costs are expected to be at or above the top end of our gardens.
depending on how energy prices play out in the second half of the year.
We're also now anticipating some slight project development delays of up to three months at Puebla Verjo and up to six months at Gold Rush versus previous market gardens, which I'll discuss later in my presentation.
These are the numbers and as you can see healthy cash flows and a solid net cash position continue to support a robust return to shareholders.
We've repurchased $182 million worth of shares under our $1 billion share buyback program. And we paid out Kabali's remaining cash surplus from the Democratic Republic of Congo.
It's worth noting that Q2 is traditionally our highest tax payment quarter, as well as when we make most of our semi-annual interest payments on our bonds.
Sustainability remains a key focus in every aspect of our business and to support our drive to net zero emissions.
We have quantified our scope three emissions.
those produced by our value chain, to get a full picture of our carbon footprint.
This exercise has shown that scope three emissions from our Tier 1 assets accounts for some 40% of the group's total greenhouse gas emissions.
mainly from purchased goods and services, capital goods.
fuel and energy use, and transport and distribution.
We are now engaging with all our suppliers to help them set and achieve their own reduction targets.
on the health and safety front.
The Latin America and Asia Pacific region has maintained its impressive record, reducing its total recordable injury rate for the year to date by 41% compared to the same period of 2021.
And this I might add at a time when we have 3,500 contractors added to the public of Erykho's permanent workforce of 2,700 employees as part of our expansion project.
Africa and the Middle East achieved a comparable reduction.
But North America still needs to improve.
and we'll continue to work on this.
Despite the delay in energizing the Valadera Paolan, which will plug the mine into neighboring Chili's green red. We are proud to have?ned to meet you here. Her Script stories were?
We maintained our carbon dioxide equivalent emissions at the quarter one level.
Average water use efficiency was again at 83 percent, ahead of the 80 percent target.
We invested seven and a half million in community projects through the Mons Community Development Committees.
Bringing our year-to-date spend to almost $12.5 million.
We also completed the public hearing engagements for Pablo Verro's new tailing storage facility.
and Nevada Goldmines renewed its partnership with Discovery Education and the States Department of Education.
Moving on to the operational section.
We start our operational review in North America, where the management team has been strengthened by the appointments of Christine Keener as the Regents Chief Operating Officer and Peter Richardson as the incoming executive managing director of Nevada Goal Months.
A new North American organizational structure incorporating Nevada Gold Mines has been designed to integrate operational and project leadership to drive continued performance improvements in regional growth beyond Nevada and HEMLO.
Nevada Goldmines had a good second quarter and a set up for further improvements in quarter three and quarter four.
The complex is a core part of our portfolio and following its creation three years ago has produced 10.1 million ounces of gold and increased its pre-merger life substantially through an increased understanding of the ore bodies.
It has also distributed $6.5 billion to its JV partners.
For the quarter, Nevada gold mines posted an improved operational performance at all its sites apart from Cortez.
which is transitioning from pipeline, that's the open cost pipeline project, to the next phase of crossroads, and is expected to start contributing its high-grade oxide ore in quarter four.
The notice of availability for the gold rush project as I indicated earlier was published at the end of the quarter, which triggered the public comment period.
But given the delay, we now expect the record of decision in the first half of 2023.
We are working on the impact of this delay and we'll update you when we release our 2023 Drydance.
field's exploration is rapidly replacing reserves depleted by mining as well as identifying new targets.
As you can see on this map,
We have a wealth of quality prospects in Nevada. So let's take a look at just two of them by example.
A 700,000 ounce maiden inferred resource has been identified at North level. A
and both there and at the nearby North Turf, there's a high potential for further resource additions.
North turf continues to expand towards north leval with multiple high-grade intercepts.
Underground drilling from exploration declines is expected to reach north level late this year when the two projects should be able to be combined.
Staying on the call and trend, the REN project is showing resource growth as well, where we have identified a new western mineralized corridor, Corona, just 250 meters from the existing infrastructure.
This new corridor, together with the JB corridor, will drive resource additions to REN's maiden inferred resource of 1.2 million ounces, allowing us to advance this particular project to feasibility.
I've indicated before.
that we want to expand our presence in both the United States and in particular Canada. in both the United States and in particular Canada.
Canada, which is in addition to being Barrick's home, is a highly prospective region with a mining friendly jurisdiction.
We've established a strong new business team there, which has been evaluating multiple M&A and earn in exploration opportunities.
to expand our portfolio.
Four projects are already under option.
Hemlo, our Canadian operation, which was badly hit by the pandemic, has received significant attention as we work to re-scope it.
We have been completely remodeling the mind and as part of this, we are considering a restart of the open pit. We are considering a restart of the open pit.
Down south
The Latin America and Asia Pacific region had a very busy quarter with the expansion of Pueblo Verga and an intensified exploration drive led by a new team around our existing sites and well beyond them in new destinations.
And then there's Rickardic in Pakistan, which is a very exciting project that I'll tell you more about later. And then I'll tell you more about later.
In Papua New Guinea, Paulgerous Progress towards reopening has been delayed by the country's election. However, we are optimistic that we can get operations restarted by the end of this year.
Pablo Verjo had a good quarter and is well positioned to achieve its production guidance.
Meanwhile, its conversion into a long-life mine is progressing and the location of a new tailings facility site has now been settled.
detailed engineering and updated costing of the new TFF should be completed in the second half of the year.
As you may recall, the mine was heading for closure because its vast resources could not be converted to reserves due to limitations on its tailing storage capacity.
The plant expansion and new tailings facility will extend its life to 2040 and beyond.
with an average annual production forecast at above 800,000 answers. The forecast is at above 800,000 answers.
Running a big mine while developing the massive expansion project is another demonstration of our various management ability to handle complex challenges.
That said, the global supply chain constraints have impacted the timing of delivery of some key components, which is putting pressure on the completion date.
We now expect to be substantially complete by the end of this year, with commissioning commencing early into the New Year.
At the same time, Varex exploration team is looking for growth opportunities.
within the permit and the surrounding concessions along with a full re-evaluation of the district. Steel Children's Vide Minute
Drilling programs to test both the Araya del Rey and Zambrana Norte targets are being finalized.
and will evaluate their potential.
to provide high grade awe to the mind plan.
As you know, Argentina has been going through some tough times.
But Valadera nevertheless continues to improve its performance.
With its fourth quarter traditionally a good one, the mine is still positioned to achieve its annual production guidance although there are risks.
Construction of the first stage of its phase seven heap leech treatment facility has been completed.
and construction of the final stage of Phase 7 is expected to start towards the end of the year.
And exploration across the Latam region is now being driven by one of three new exploration managers in the group who is working closely with a dedicated great growth manager to evaluate opportunities.
While the Latin exploration programs and priorities are being refreshed,
Work continued across the continent with encouraging results this quarter from Valadera, where the team is developing several early stage near-mind targets.
The Latam region is prospective for world-class copper and gold discoveries, and we certainly have the teams with the required skills and experience to deliver them.
Turning now to Rickardic, which is one of the world's largest undeveloped copper gold deposits.
In terms of the framework agreement between Barak and the government of Pakistan, the project, which has been on hold since 2011, will be reconstituted and restarted.
The mine will be operated barbaric and in line with our philosophy of partnering with our host countries, it will be owned 50% by Barrick.
25% by the Baluchistan provincial government and 25% by Pakistan state owned enterprises.
This is an exciting opportunity for Barrick, but equally for the country and the province. Breakes are suffering. strictly by another one. Therefore. Breakes are building roles and ceux areas of the country for every country and the province. you
and we've been received with great enthusiasm and support by all the local stakeholders.
This is Rick Adix anticipated timeline.
Pakistan has an efficient administration and we're currently working with all parties to finalize the underlying definitive agreements.
There's also a legislative process to be completed.
Once all of this is done, we will update the existing feasibility study currently scheduled for completion in 2024.
Production could start in 2027 or 2028.
With its unique combination of large scale, low strip and good grades, Rikkadek will be a multi-generational man with a laugh of at least 40 years.
turning now to Africa and the Middle East.
The region continues to excel on all fronts with a standout performance from the Tanzanian minds.
Virtually at a stand store when we took over their management three years ago, they have been completely redesigned and re-engineered, creating what are in fact two completely new minds.
with the potential as a combined complex to achieve Tier I status.
in the barrack portfolio.
In Mali, Lulugon Kato delivered its usual strong performance.
and is firmly on track to achieve its annual production guidance.
all about operations
Of all our operations, this complex is the most exposed.
to higher field process.
but we're in the process of trebling its solar power plant's capacity, which will improve its energy source profile.
on the expiration front.
The Lula district in Mali and across the river in Sanneval is the gift that keeps giving.
Brownfield's exploration is likely to replace Lula Góncotto's depletion answers against this year.
just across the border in Senegal, our Bombaji and Delema permits host multiple targets with standalone potential.
In the central Africa, cabali boosted production in quarter two with throughput rising after the first quarter's planned mill maintenance.
We now expect the replacement of the shaft winder in quarter four, which may impact slightly on production.
but the mine remains on track to achieve production within guidance.
Kibale is Barrick's leader in renewable energy thanks to its three hydropower stations.
which are shielding it from the full effect of higher fuel prices.
and exploration continues to replenish the reserve base while also looking for new discoveries.
In Tanzania, as I pointed out in the intro to our Africa Middle East section, both mines hit their steady state run rate in quarter two, with North Mora increasing production by 18% and Bully and Hulu posting a 20% improvement.
Bully on Hulu now has a life of more than 20 years and continues to deliver significant growth in reserves.
Development of its new deep west extension is scheduled to start this quarter. It's scheduled to start this quarter.
North Lara?
North Maura's Rama Open Pit has been successfully ramped up, and the new Gena pushback is scheduled for the second half of this year.
While continuing to replace resources depleted by mining, we are also targeting new opportunities within the North Mara District.
We've expanded our footprint around Bullion Hulu through the acquisition of six highly prospective licenses. And we're also updating our geological models and generating targets, as I pointed out, in the North Mara region.
Turning now to our copper operations.
In Zambia, La Moana increased its Q2 production by 32%.
thanks to higher grades and improved mill availability.
Jabal Saeed in Saudi Arabia produced a consistent production
Performance and in line with barracks policy of recruiting host country nationals has appointed its first Saudi general manager.
Production at Saldívar in Chile was also consistent.
Strong exploration results at Jabal Saeed have identified multiple growth opportunities with all body expansion potential both at depth and along strike.
adding significantly to the life of man.
Major intersects shown here include one with an eye watering 54 meters at over 15% copper.
And in Zambia
Lamona has been targeting near surface satellite deposits to support the conceptual pushback for the chimmy superpet.
which will unlock the operations full potential and extend its last to beyond 2060. And extend its last to beyond 2060.
We are working on this and expect to commence a pre-feasibility study next year.
Ladies and gentlemen, that covers my review of the operations.
Now I want to go back to the dividend to demonstrate barracks commitment to shareholder returns.
The 20 cent dividend comprises a 10 cent base dividend and a 10 cent performance dividend governed by the amount of cash net of debt on our balance sheet at the end of each quarter.
On an annualized basis, this equates to a peer leading to the equivalent field of approximately 5%. The equivalent field of approximately 5%.
Not only does our dividend framework deliver in hawns returns to our shareholders.
It also provides them with flexibility and predictability throughout the financial cycle.
And to be used opportunistically, when our shares do not reflect the value of our assets, when our shares do not reflect the value of our assets,
and prospects.
We, as I pointed out earlier, introduced a billion dollar share buyback program, which we utilized for the first time this past quarter.
And to finish my presentation.
I thought it would be useful to wrap up the previous slides and summarize how this is creating value for our investors.
We have the industry's largest portfolio of world-class, gold and copper assets.
and it's still growing.
All our minds have reality based 10 year business plans.
In some cases, being rolled out to 15 years and beyond.
with no significant production dips.
We do not need to call on new projects.
to maintain our 10 year plans.
New projects on the other hand, sold on that solid production foundation we already have.
In fact, our growth projects such as Pueblo Vergo and Recodeck will boost our current long-term sustainability.
Future growth is supported by Barrick's substantial project portfolio, which includes Donland and Pascua-Lama, are growing near mine opportunities that I've touched on in this presentation.
along with a strong record of exploration success and reserve replenishment.
Our sustainability policies and practices in grained and barracks long before ESG became a thing.
deliver measurable results that benefit all our stakeholders.
And all of this is underpinned.
by disciplined shareholder returns.
So let me end with this question.
Where can you find a better investment case?
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Our first question comes from Greg Barnes of TV Securities. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Mark, a couple of questions. First on Gold Rush's contribution over the next several years to Cortes. We only have, I guess, consolidated guidance for Cortes and we don't know how much.
Gold Rush contributes to that in 2023, 2024. Can you give us some idea of what the amount is? Can you give us some idea of what the amount is?
Greg, we haven't really given much detail on that.
guidance except that it really does take Cortez as a complex over a million ounces.
and that'll come as we define the project and conclude the feasibility study, then we'll be able to update that. We did give you a heads up last year and I think that stands at this stage. And you've got a five year and 10 year profile. That's an integral part of the Cortez project.
Second question then on Pueblo Viejo, you've picked a new TSS site for it. Has the government signed off on that as well? Do you have buy-in from them for that new site?
Yes, absolutely Greg. The government has released a
a press release confirming that. It's all subject of course to our.
the environmental license being awarded. But we're comfortable, we've got the terms of reference agreed with the government and we busy with that, we expect to lodge that application towards the end of this quarter.
I believe Mark, the government had a third party review of independent experts reviewing. These slides they've signed off on all those two lives and given what you just said. Yes, we've been working closely with the government. As you know, we started off with some challenges, but we've certainly found an agreeable way forward, acceptable way forward. And in fact, you would have seen in the releases today that we've completed the public participation in consultation process as part of that.
Okay, I will just add Greg that was successfully completed.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Anita Soni of CIVC World Markets. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Is this a couple of operations that you've went through some of the ones that would improve in the second half of the year? So this one is just upon a turquoise ridge.
And also on, sorry, it was, which one's the lower one? The relief it was. The relief it was. The relief it was. The relief it was. The relief it was. The relief it was.
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So, so it's super contradict.
So an eta, you're right, the two, um,
Big improvements are an improvement in turquoise ridge. And I might add turquoise ridge is rarely doing well now, as far as turquoise ridge underground goes. And the challenges are with the throughput in the processing facility and also when creeks, the grade of some of the open pit material. But we're comfortable that turquoise ridges on ramping up as per the plan, particularly the most important part of that.
business which is the turquoise ridge underground and as we bring the shaft three in in two production we also have a development that's going out towards what we call BBT target which is near the old gechal pit but it's an underground target and again we expect to continue to ramp up underground operations there.
The big, the big,
fill up as the is out of Cortez. We've been processing much lower grade.
Open pit all from pipeline and we're busy transitioning transitioning to the next phase of crossroads
and there's a very high-grade oxide portion of Crossroads that's in this year's mining plan, and we only get to it at the beginning of the fourth quarter and that's a big step up. It's not changing throughput or anything like this. We use the oxide mill. It's got capacity. It's just about grade, and we've spent a lot of time focusing in on the reserve model and it's great, and we're comfortable.
same. Lulu Goncorte is bang on the run rate. Kibale as I pointed out in my presentation is seeks a better a slightly better increase in production both in quarter three and quarter four. And North Mora is at the run rate same with same with Bully Atulu.
Yeah, I guess my second question was gonna be on Velodero it's running under, but you said a slight improvement over the course of the year? Yeah, Velodero is always, I mean we're really starting to understand the leech dynamics in Velodero because no one's really focused in on what that dynamic is. We've been building the next, um, um.
leach infrastructure. But now that we've got that infrastructure working phase six and we're moving on to phase seven, the big focus now is understanding the leach dynamics, how we manage through the winter months. And we expect that there should be an improvement in leach kinetics as we go into the summer. And so again, we're forecasting and improved.
back last quarter of this year as we go into summer. Okay, and then my second and last question relates to CAPEX. I think you're running a little over 50% for the year, and I'm just wondering if your comments on cost being or above the high end of the guidance range, does that also apply to the CAPEX numbers? Should we be a little higher on the CAPEX numbers? Because you're a real patient, how does it impact your... They inter-connected as you know.
And some of the, you know, there's a big script here. And so with the higher fuel price, there's potential that, and if we get our full strip done, there's, depending on the fuel price, that's driving our overall cost profile. But that, you've picked up on it, that capital, sustaining capital does have an impact on all in sustaining costs. So we are managing it. I think the point that I make to everyone is...
These things are important. We don't try and we have assets that support whatever gold price you come up with. And we are in some assets are delivering strong cash for others are requiring sustaining capital investments. But they all are assets survive at any, except imaginable gold and copper price and they design to manage through
the cycles in a profitable manner. Okay, thank you very much.
in a profitable manner. Okay, thank you very much. My pleasure.
Our next question comes from Jackie Przybylowski of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. diagnosing this space
Thanks very much for taking my questions. And maybe I'll ask the first question just to circle back with something you mentioned in the introductory remarks on Canada. Can you give us a little bit more color? I know there's been a number of transactions that have come and gone in Canada. I know there's a lot of, you know, come and go on in Canada.
Both on M&A and on exploration, what are your current thoughts or what are you currently seeing in the landscape out there today in Canada?
Well, Jackie, there are two things. First of all, as I've said on many occasions, we are very disciplined in how we look to grow. And when opportunities come and they are not able to meet our investment criteria, we don't transact. And that's what's happened in Canada recently.
That doesn't mean to say that we're not committed to still growing in Canada, and I often say if we can't buy it, we'll find it. And that's rarely been our focus overall, because otherwise, if you just rearrange the assets in our industry, you don't create any value as we've seen over the years. So that's where our real focus is. We've got a great team in Canada. We are slowly building portfolios. We have to.
four different projects that we're focusing in on at the moment. And in the fullness of time, you'll see that. At the same time in times like this where you get a sudden pressure on the industry and particularly the market itself, that puts the junior market under stress. And again-
That makes sense for us to exploit and we do that.
I think that I would end up with the fact that we've never bought any
Exploration project at full value and we don't intend to start.
That's a fair comment and you guys have definitely been disciplined in that. If for my second question, maybe I'll ask you for an update on the process at PoreGRA. It sounds like you've come to an agreement and you're just going through a public notice process. Can you maybe talk a little bit about how long you expect that might take and when you might be able to put PoreGRA back into your guidance if you have an idea on that. every day crucial documentary. But there is a heart attack created under the Thank you.
Yeah, so, you know, we were going along, we've had this.
Conflict with a structure that in the old porgray held 5% equity. And again, it held it for the benefit of...
the key SML landowners. And so those landowners have now signed up for the new transaction. And the management of that particular vehicle is resisting following the guidance of their own shareholders. So that's a process that we're dealing with. At the same time, the elections, as you know, have been rather complicated. We expect the...
And we have a pro, we're in the process, the election airing process is now in a program which should result in the-.
person who or the party being designated to
to form a government. It'll be invited by the Governor General. And we're right in that process as we speak today. And so we expect during this week to have a good feel of who's gonna be leading the next government. And once that's done, we feel that we'll be able to get on and close out, because that's all we need, is we need a shareholders agreement. We have agreement amongst the key stakeholders, the landowners.
the provincial government of Enga and the other landowners and everyone that was included in the framework agreement as beneficiaries.
And so then it's about finalising the shareholder agreement of the new Porgra, applying for the SML Special Mining license, which will then allow us to move towards reopening the mine. And that's the process. And right now, what we, I was there a couple of weeks ago, we met with the, the...
Prime Minister of that time, we are now in a period where there is no Prime Minister for a couple of days. And then we will see the new Prime Minister's appointment this week and we will be able to get back to progressing this project.
So, sorry, it sounds like there's a lot going on, but do you think that it's reasonable to assume? Come here.
It'll restart for 2023.
So, one thing I'll become used to is that
Papua New Guinea doesn't always work as a reasonable state. So we'll keep working on it, but I think our relationships and our confidence that everyone that is anyone in that process has got to a point where we understand where we want to get to and it's going through the process. And of course as you know, we've always respected the...
the various stakeholders in any one of our businesses and this is another one of those groundbreaking transactions. But the goal is still in the ground and we're very comfortable that once we get the rules right, the agreements in place will be able to operate comfortably in back in Pogra. We're?????Arab??? comfortably in back in Paulgra.
Thanks. Thanks, Mark.
Thanks, Mark.
Our next question comes from Lawson Winder of Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi Mark, nice to hear from you. Thank you for the update. I wanted to come back to Pueblo Viejo, the CAPEX. So in the MDNA, you guys flagged the potential for a material increase in CAPEX, depending on various factors. Can you maybe just speak to what are some of the factors driving that potential increase and to what extent is the delay factoring in? Thanks. So we need to finalize the feasibility study. Now we had a...
initial site which created all the controversy. We have moved that site and the new site as we flagged when we moved it and we had different choices comes and the driver is really volumes.
So the volume of the key for the walls of the dam and also the total volume to bull the walls. And if you remember right in the beginning, we talked about the two different sites and the variations as far as being able to bull those tailings facilities. At the same time, the new site also comes with more volume. And that's what we're busy doing now.
We're well ahead of our program to drill out the foundations to ensure how much we have to excavate and what's the size and components of the key that we have to put in for the wall, and then we'll be able to share that with you.
But what I can tell you is that the economics are still very robust, Lawson.
Okay, that's helpful and maybe just to be a little bit more clear. If I'm hearing you correctly, it sounds like there is going to be some increase from the $1.4 billion estimate and you guys just need time to figure out how large that's going to be or how material it is. That's exactly right. Yes. And it's a whole package. So we want to get that set old. You want to...
We've got a part for the permit. We'll have a pre-feasibility sort of level estimate at the end of this quarter, and then we'll share it to the market.
Great. Can I also ask you about your new Asia-Pacific team. Could that team, and I believe it's based in Perth, could that be interpreted as a desire for Barrick to re-enter Australia after exiting a few years ago and if so is M&A something that might be part of that re-entry strategy? Thanks. So you know the the focus for that team is, by the way that team is not running Paul Barra because there was sort of a rumor that
We're going to run Pogra remotely. We're not going to do that. Intentionally, we've already got a full Pogra team in Port Moorsbury. So we've still got some infrastructure and Cairns, and we will move all the significant leadership roles for Pogra II, Pogra and Port Moorsbury, as in line with our commitment to be a host country-based. Pogra II is a very important role in the development of Pogra II. We're going to be able to do that in line with our commitment to be a host country-based.
The Perth team is really charged with its currently working with the team in Pakistan. So that leadership structure will support our Pakistan project as we build the capacity and we've already started employing people for that project. And then it's to look at the entire part of from Pakistan, South and East, all the way to Papua New Guinea.
There is no stopping us going back into Australia. Provided that we can find things that fit our criteria. As you know, Australia is quite a mature destination for exploration. M&A, you know, I'm my experience in Australia. It's not the place to go hunting boarbines.
Understood. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Josh Wolfson of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Thank you very much. Just following on Lawson's question about Pueblo Viejo capital, I understand there's a range of possible options for the tailings dam and the volumes and energy prices associated with that. But if you have to sort of provide some sort of goalposts for us to think about in terms of what a material change would be for the capital, is there a percentage we should be thinking about or any information you can provide there?
So Josh, it's got nothing to do with power. I just explained to Lawson, it's got to do with the volume of material we have to move. We're going through that process of designing and calculating that. And I think it's appropriate for us, first of all, we need to share it with the government when we get to that point. And then we'll share it with the market. But I think it is substantial.
but at the same time, it still delivers very robust economics. And this is a project that goes way beyond 2040. And is...
by all accounts is gonna deliver production above 800,000 ounces a year. So we're busy with that feasibility study. When we're there, we'll let you know what it is.
Okay, and then looking at the timelines for the project or for the expansion there, when would you expect to be a steady state run rate of that 800,000 ounces or higher? And then looking at the changes with the commissioning sort of timelines, how does that affect the 2023 production numbers?
So, you know, the guidance for the expansion, they're not directly linked. The tailings facility, what we had to manage was if we weren't going to get the tailings facility, it had a significant impact on the operation. And so the whole profile was going to change. We would have had to stop mining. And so we had to manage that because otherwise we'd end up with nowhere to put.
and it's acid generating waste. And so that's now clear so we can move ahead and in the meantime,
With the endorsement from the government, we continued with the expansion program. Once we were cleared with the obtaining a footprint to hold the new tailings facility.
So that expansion program is the one that we referring to as being delayed. It was originally forecast to be quarter three. And we're now saying that it'll be substantially complete at the end of the year and we'll commission starting in the new year. And that is to remind you that really changes the front end of the plant from nine million tons a year fee to 14 million tons.
And what it does is that we reduce it in a float circuit, and so the back end of the plant still has a capacity of around nine million tons. And so by doing that, we continue the run rate, gold production rate from the past, and slightly better if we can, and...
and we keep the costs low. So that's the process. And now that we've got capacity to store material, now that we know that we can continue at ramping up the new expansion, and so next year will be a better year, of course, and then we should get at, towards the sort of planned run rate towards the end of next year, or the back half of next year.
So 2024 will be back in those high production profiles.
Okay.
And then maybe just thinking about the impacts of the steps for the remainder of the year and the project completion. Is there any kind of interruptions we should expect to see and towards the year end with the commissioning process or with the construction activity?
So that's what I've pointed out in the presentation. You know, we've got, we're running multiple construction streams in parallel with the operation. So when you see the performance of this mine, it's spectacular. It's absolutely spectacular. And we've got 3,500 extra people. I don't know if you've been there, Josh, but it's quite a small footprint.
And on top of that, this is our best safety site as well. So all around it, and we've already done some tie-ins and we'll continue, we've been very focused on the tie-ins. We're very comfortable that the team understands exactly what it needs to do to deliver. And again, this is, like many of our businesses, we're building long-term value. So.
Our focus is ensuring that we deliver that solid foundation on which we can operate for the next 20, 30 years. And so, you know, experience has certainly taught me focusing on making sure it's done properly and the rest will come.
Great, thank you very much.
Our next question comes from Tanya Jackaskonek of Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Oh great, good morning everyone, we're good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe it's just on some of the development projects. I'm just going to circle back and finish off on Pueblo Viejo, so I understand the timeline mark from you. So we are working on a pre-feasibility study that is going to be completed in Q3. So will we be getting an update with Q3 results on your findings on the pre-feasibility study then?
So Tanya, what it is is the cost of the
tailings facility and we'll release that once we've got a good idea of what that number is. And we need to bring it, we need to deliver it to the government as well, because remember this is all part of our agreement with the government on a big expansion.
But it doesn't really, once it doesn't impact now, the program of ramping up the expansion. The expansion is different to the tailings facility.
Yes, no, I appreciate that. So sometime two, three, maybe two, four, we will get a new golfing number for the tailings. Is that... That's a fair assumption. And of course it's...
in our interest to give it to the market as soon as we can. Okay, and then the permit which you are going to be filing Q3 2022, when are you expecting the permit to be granted to you? Best wishes of afterwards. notification service before you go to deferred legislation and file addresses in 2 patrol, queue three 2022. you
It's a project that's been going on in parallel in consultation with the government. So there's, you know, I mean, grants on the call. Grant Berringer, do you want to have a crack at that? Do you know how long it takes?
Yeah, so it is dependent on the government review. We intend in submitting the issue towards the end of this month early in September . And obviously need to do their review, the government that is. But we are expecting it in the first half of next year. But we are expecting it in the first half of next year.
Okay. And is it when you are granted this permit that we would look at that resource to reserve conversion in your reserve statements?
No, it's a, you know, Rod, do you want to comment on that? It's once we are clear and we're... Yeah, no, one's clear.
Yeah, once we are clear that we're going to get the permit, that then we're happy to sign up on the reserve increase. So then necessary needs have the permit in hand. We just need to be confident that there's nothing that's going to impede that grunting of the permit. So once the issue is done, we're happy and we engage with government.
then we're happy to declare the reserve increase. So still expecting that reserve increase this year. Okay, so we could get it this year, so with your year-end financials.
And then just for clarity with the plant expansion and all of the tie-ins that we may need to do, you know, at the end of this year, is it safe to assume that Q4 might be slightly weak to an increased Q3 because of these tie-ins?
sort of within plan and it's going to be there and there abouts, Tonya. No, we don't expect any significant variation. Of course, we'd like to bring any production a little bit more into Q3 to ensure that we have that flexibility you referred to.
But, you know, right now it's not, we're not looking to...
go beyond the sort of run rate that for quarter fall, the run rate that we've had in the first two quarters of this year is still achievable.
And then when we come to this CAPEX number for the tailing, Mark, I remember I think from the previous conference called the of the 1.4 billion, I think 500 to 600 million was the previous tailing facility. So is it safe to assume that whatever CAPEX increases that are going to occur, it would be on the 500 to 600 million separate from the remaining 1.4? Plus obviously we've got three months delay, so there's a bit of cost thing on that.
Is that a safe assumption? There are some increases as we point to in the expansion project. That's within the guidance. And then we will redefine the tailings facility capital estimates along with the new plan once we've done the drilling. And Tania, it's really about the drilling, the estimates on volumes. So how deep do we have to dig the key to tie it in because remember this.
This mine sits in a seismic active zone. Our current young old tailings facility is probably the best constructed tailings facility in the world today. And we have absolutely committed to ensure that this tailings dam is designed like that one if not better, to ensure the safety and competency of the facility itself.
No, I appreciate it. I appreciate that under. All right, go ahead. Thank you for something correct. Thank you for something correct.
But it'd be that whatever cat-packs increase we have, I should look at it based on the 500, 600 million build heads that can maximize the silence that's fair andaca??z??
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Okay. Maybe I'm just gonna leave Pueblo Viejo if I could and I just wanna come back to just Nevada, just two things on Nevada. Just the delays on gold rush. You started the public hearings, maybe just an update on how that's going. Is it because we're having issues on the public hearing side that we split six months so maybe just a little more detail on the slippage there? No, we're not having any delays as you can, as you know and the United...
completely engaged along with the BLM and the external consultants that are working with the BLM to progress the permitting of this asset. And so, Tonya, that's the, and again, the impact this has in the long term on Cortes is enormous. You know, it really takes...
Cortez as a complex over a million ounces. So you've got Carlan at one and a half to 1.6 million ounces. You're gonna have Cortez at over a million ounces. And then Turquoise Ridge at the sort of 600,000 ounce mark.
And those are three world-class assets that really are the foundation to Barrick's production profile. And I would suggest it's equally important to our partners in Newmont to ensure that we build that foundation properly. So this is gonna go on for a very long time. Gold Rush, then Four Mile. We've got some very exciting projects. We touched on North Levo.
and the rent project, but we've got numerous other projects across the carland portfolio that have potential to continue to deliver opportunities as we go more and more underground. And then we've got those green fields projects that we've touched on in previous quarters and we'll update you again towards the end of the year, which is the ones that are taking down the fence.
has created, and I'm talking specifically the gap between Turquoise Ridge and Twin Creeks, and then South Carlin, and then of course more opportunities,
around the Cortez complex as well. So I'm super excited about the potential, both the brownfields potential adding life and the greenfields potential that our exploration teams are now starting to identify.
Okay, so I was just trying to understand whether there was any issues with the, I guess the locals or. No, not at this stage. Of course we're gonna have lots of detractors and we're gonna have to engage in a robust way to keep this project moving along, but at this stage we do not have any concerns about the process or the arguments for and against. Okay. And if I could, my last question is just on Long Canyon. I see that it's no longer for sale.
You've took that off. I'm just wondering what's the change there? Do you see something different for this asset? Maybe the underground potential? What's changed there?
So this asset was one of those that, you know, the market, and remember, when we did the deal with Newmont, it was a hostile deal. And so we had to trust the market. And the market didn't get it right in some of the assets. And the market didn't get it right in some of the assets.
And so the next phase of long canyon hadn't been permitted. It's been a great asset to date.
It's got resources. And so our view was that it didn't really fit. It's an outlier within our portfolio in Nevada. And we felt that that was an opportunity to see if there was anybody else who wanted to take this project on. The interest that was shown on that project just like, by the way, Tonya, remember, Lamona, when we put on the market, and then people felt that this was somewhere, you could bargain hunt. And so we were able to get this project. And so we were able to get this project on. And so we were able to get this project on. And so we were able to get this project on.
We're not prepared to do that, and we couldn't get anyone that we felt had the capacity to ensure that our model of responsible mining would be respected in Long Canyon. So it's still got some residual leach potential, and our team is now refreshing the process of continuing to license the project.
and we're comfortable that we all manage it. And on top of that, the sale process got caught up with the sudden drop in the gold price sentiment turned. Lots of things. And, you know, we definitely are not in a frame of a fire sale in Long Canyon. So, back in our portfolio. And so now you're re-circling back and looking up, permitting and maybe looking at the underground. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Thank you so much for taking my questions. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Jitinder Goel of BNP Paribas, XAN. Please go ahead.
Thank you, operator. Good morning and good afternoon. First question on on Cortez and Firmile royalty that's reagent to Seoul to Royal Gold. Was there any interest from your perspective, Mark, to acquire that royalty stream or at the JV level at NGM or did it not make financial sense?
So just as everyone recognized, it's quite a big plastic, what was paid for that royalty. Of course, we're always interested. I think it would be incorrect of me to disclose our corporate considerations and strategy around that. But I think one thing that's important is it's a real endorsement on the capacity of both Nevada Goldmines Management.
and it's a ability to grow that resource. And I think that's what's in the process, is that belief that we can continue to grow that resource. From Nevada Goldmines point of view, our focus is to grow our resources. And so we'll rather spend money, particularly at that sort of level, back in our old bodies.
And I hope that explains your question adequately, if you can understand that.
Yes, thanks Mark. Just to follow up on that.
You run the assets or no one else can know about the reserve resource and potential production and cost situation better than you especially sitting outside who was evaluating that so from that perspective, is it a difference in gold price assumption that would result in a different valuation or was it a question of you trying to put your money at better place as you said on exploration rather than trying to buy back a little bit stream.
Yeah, I think you've answered your own question, Jacinda. Okay, that's very clear then. Just one more on cash flow modeling perspective. From Kibali, is it going to be once a quarter with like one quarter lag type of cash inflow repatriation just to see the consistency of that cash coming through or can it still be subject to different timings in terms of how it comes into Barrick?
So we are busy progressing that. The agreement that we have with the government is that we will split the cash flow more or less, 50% towards repaying the debt, outstanding debt, and 50% towards dividends.
That way everyone gets a bit of the slas of the cake, particularly our partners, Sakeema. They get the dividends, the government gets withholding tax on the dividends, and we see a continual one-down of the outstanding debt. So that's the plan. Whether we do it.
Everyone gets a bit of the slas of the cake, particularly our partners, Sakeema. They get the dividends, the government gets with holding tax on the dividends and we see a continual wind down of the outstanding debt. So that's the plan. Whether we do it each quarter or...
By any of these, that's something we'll make a decision on. We'll certainly inform the market.
understood thank you very much for our team all the best
Our next question comes from Brian McArthur of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Thanks for your time.
Good morning. Most of my questions have been answered, but I just wanted to follow up on a comment mark you made about Boolean Hulu. You talked about 20 years now, you sort of rebuilt the whole mine. A number of years ago, there was talk that this could be a much bigger mine than it currently is. This could be a much bigger mine than it currently is.
Now that you've got it figured out the new mind, you've got a long reserve life. And you've got a long reserve life. And you've got a long reserve life.
Is there any possibility of going towards those 500,000 of the year numbers that were talked about maybe 15 years ago?
So the best way to explain that.
The best way to explain that
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probably no other chance.
Okay, that's good to check. So, because let me explain you, that was what kept...
failing bullion Hulu is, you know, this is an ore body that can deliver about 250,000 ounces, between 200 and 250,000 ounces a year. And it's a narrow ore body high grade. Every time you push the tonnage, you reduce the feed grade and you just can't make it work. And so the only way we will get that increase is to open up new,
working front, so new faces. And to do that you need additional ore bodies. And that's why we did the deal and expanded that footprint around Bully and Hulu, because our geologists feel that there's certainly potential for additional ore bodies, and that perhaps there's a bit more folding than people in the past understood. And so if we could open up additional working areas and not rely on...
one the current infrastructure on its own and two, you know, trying to mine, you know, at any foster rate given the size of the all body, then we could add to it. So that's why at the stage, the life of the mine just gets bigger and bigger. And so North Maura is about a 300, a little bit more maybe, depending on great producer and, and Bolly and Hoolers just over the 200,000.
maybe up to 2.30 to 4.000 answers a year. And if you add them together, there's the 500,000 answers. They both got cost mines. And you know, bullies got a longer life than North Mara, but North Mara is equally got more untested prospectivity today than bullies. Untested prospectivity today than bullies.
Right, that's what I saw, but I just want to check with you. Thank you very much.
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Our next question comes from Adam Josephson of Keybank. Please go ahead.
Thank you, operator. Mark and Grandgood afternoon. Hope you're well.
Kind of a two-part question about costs for either of you. Can you talk about what assumptions are embedded in your thinking that gold cash costs will be? In your thinking that gold cash costs will be?
at the high end or perhaps slightly above your full year range bearing in mind that global commodity prices as you know have been falling quite precipitously in recent weeks And then if in fact you end up at that the high end or slightly above the high end What do you think a reasonable expectation is for next year in terms of cash cost perhaps? I know you said that you've indicated you expect production to be up to some extent next year
With that in mind, again, at this early stage, what do you think is the most reasonable expectation for what the year-veer change might be if any?
I'm gonna try and just talk to the operations and I'll let Graham fill in the gaps. Thanks Bob.
So Adam, the point here is, you know, one minute we're talking about...
prices and how that's going to change the world. And then everyone has seizures over the costs. At the end of the day, they are what they are, and you've got to manage them. And one of the things that we're absolutely in is inflationary times. And we can wish that away, but it's not going to happen until somebody does something about it. So we are dealing with costs, and on top of that we've got the Eastern European crisis, Europe crisis, which has brought a very stressed economy.
fuel market to wear. And that's both.
oil or diesel and gas. And the gas markets are moving around. You know, the amount of gas being exported out of the US, for instance, where we rely on and are growing our capacity to take on more gas-powered generation. Those are all complex situations. So,
You can't just look at the commodity price and say that's going to be what it, you know, that's going to be able to be imputed through to the cost. And on top of that, Barry, at the moment, has a number of big sustaining capital programs, particularly strips in our pets. And again, that comes with extra cost and extra fuel costs will impact on those too.
So we're just giving you the numbers. And this doesn't put us at risk. I mean, that's the good thing about having world-class assets as it doesn't put us at risk. And it certainly doesn't impact on the way we allocate capital. And our job as managers to manage that impact. And absolutely right now, we don't want to compromise any of our commitments as far as capital goes, whether it's...
growth capital or sustaining capital because you know we've got it we're probably the only gold company.
growth capital or sustaining capital because we're probably the only gold company and copper business.
that doesn't rely on a new project to deliver our five-year plan and our ten-year plan. We're absolutely comfortable with our ability to manage the cyclicality of the commodities that we mine. And so, you know, of course we constant, and we've taken about $500 million out of Barrick's logistics, supply chain and procurement. For more information, visit Barrick.com
And in fact, we've got budgeted improvements again this year that will offset the inflation pressure, whichever inflation it is, you know, the issue around Eastern Europe or just general embedded inflation, which, you know, is something that you can see everywhere at the moment. And everyone still denies that it's a real issue for our global economy.
With that, I'll pause it on to Graham and he can give you some additional cover on how we look at the capital. I mean, how we look at the cost. I mean, how we look at the cost.
Yeah, thanks Mark. I mean, I think you've really addressed the question quite well and it is very tricky to be forecasting costs in the current environment. I will just say that the current guidance for 2022 in terms of this act or slightly above our previous guidance is a function of...
an expectation of 110 dollar oil. And as you will have seen, you know, a few weeks ago we were trading over 120 and then we dropped below 100. So it's moving around all over the place. It's difficult to predict and that's why we're reluctant to be drawn on a particular number. And as we look to 2023, as Mark has indicated, it's so much depends on the global economic environment when we get there. So think that something will give you guidance on at the end of the year as we always do.
Yeah, I think Mark, just back to what you were saying, but we look at some of these commodity prices falling hard. And as you said, some people are quick to assume that inflation's gonna dissipate, go away, whatever the case may be. But what you're saying is that if that's just not the way it's looking at all, that supply chains are still quite problematic. Can you just go into what you're seeing Mark in terms of supply chain, the tetra, and how that's?
affecting the inflation that you're dealing with and presumably affecting what you think will be the persistence of that inflation. We'll be the persistence of that inflation.
Yeah, so supply chains, you know, it's one is the cost. The other is the ability to manage it. I think the latter, we've got our head around it. You know, we manage COVID extremely well. The team that we, I often use the example that we moved our purchases for steel balls from
China to Europe , back to China, back to Europe . You know, we have the flexibility of multiple suppliers. We've beefed up our inventory to beyond three months and even a little bit more and some of the core assets that are under threat because of the Ukraine crisis.
But there are a number of crises developing at the moment. We're not sure exactly, you know, you've got the USA-China issue recently being sort of exacerbated by what happened around Thailand. So a number of issues developed. The way we manage that is ensuring, when we have partnership relationships, we are very significantly contracted.
And we've got excellent supply infrastructure now and ability to procure. I'll give you an example in PV. We had some real stress on some key components on the expansion and what we've been able to do is move steel into the country and we're building a manufacturing industry there. And we've been able to manufacture a lot of our equipment for a public vehicle without hurting it too much on the delay because otherwise...
we would have had a situation where you don't have control of the delivery. So you know my personal viewers...
Like every crisis and particularly every big inflation period or global economic crisis that I've lived through, it's always worse than it seems.
and it takes longer to come out of. And we as the global economy have very few people are around that understand inflation. And I certainly lived through the last significant inflation period. And again, it requires diligence. It definitely requires well-class assets and you will get through it. And it's agility, innovation and most important.
COP26 where everything was going to be green and clean to a situation where all that was thrown out the window and now look at where we are. We're burning coal and every other bit of fuel, fossil fuel we can. And just like COVID, there's no global coordination. There's a lot of sort of...
Disengagement. What I, you know, I refer to the issues we dealt with in COVID as COVID nationalism. And you're seeing the same again. And so, and on top of that, no one's caring about the emerging markets. And then when you look at the drive behind some of these ESG strategies, none of them seem to be sustainable. And sustainable is the real.
focus when you talk ESG is how do you build sustainable industry a sustainable global economy and you can't do that without investing in the developing world which has largely been neglected and even last night in the United States Senate they passed this big bull but no one even mentioned the emerging markets and the developing world and what is needed there to bring them along and
We all know that there's no island on this world. You can't do things in isolation. But more and more we see evidence of that happening. And at the same time, all this requires more and more mining. More and more responsible mining if we're going to get it right.
So, you know, what we in BEREC are very clear about, our core focus is sustainability. We look at high quality assets. We look to develop them wherever they are in the world. And we benefit our host country stakeholders as much as we benefit our own shareholders.
Thank you for that Mark. And just one on the buyback if I may. Obviously last quarter inflation was intensifying and gold prices fell from 2050 all the way down to 1700 and I assume that's what.
caused the dislocation in your stock that you were thinking about. Can you, was the dislocation in your mind more about the gold price having gone to $1,700 or what specifically was the dislocation in your mind and relatedly, what was the dislocation
Do you expect these buybacks to be ongoing or should they be should we not assume or expect?
level such buybacks and subsequent quarters for whatever reason. Thank you.
So we were very clear that we're going to use this facility to bar back our stock when we feel that it's trading at a discount to what we feel is back.
and tighten up the market when we can. And that's what happened last quarter. As you point out, the share price showed a lot of weakness and we went into the market in a considered way. You know, we're not planning to buy back all our shares, but in a considered way, we were active in the market. And again, today we feel the same applies and we will continue with this Bob Act.
strategy that we shared with the market, and again in a considered way, all the time we feel that you know it's in the interest of our genuine long-term shareholders to take out some of the softness in the market when we can.
with the market, and again, in a considered way, all the time we feel that it's in the interest of our genuine long-term shareholders to take out some of the softness in the market when we can. Thank you, Mark.
There are no more questions from the conference call.
Well, again, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for your time. It is an efficient use of your time, I'm sure. So again, and thanks for the questions. And as is usual, if there's anybody out there who failed to think of something to say or ask or didn't want to ask it in this public forum, we're always available to take your questions as a management team. So, you know us all and just reach out to us or reach out to Lois or Kathy.
or any of our investor team and we'll make sure that you get the answer. Again, thank you very much and enjoy the summer for those in the Northern Hemisphere and we'll speak to you soon.
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