Q2 2022 Healthcare Services Group Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker 2: operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the health care services group Inc. 2nd quarter 2022 conference call.
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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you Rob and good morning everyone. Matt McKee and I appreciate you joining us today. We released our second quarter results this morning and plan on filing our 10Q by the end of the week.
Speaker 3: As we enter the back half of the year, we've now either completed or are in the final stages of negotiation with our clients in modifying our service agreement.
Speaker 3: a goal we very aggressively pursued throughout the second quarter.
Speaker 3: As we continue to engage with our clients to capture both recent and future inflation on a more real-time basis, several components of our partnership may be considered in the negotiations.
Speaker 3: Among those are restructuring or notes receivable with certain clients.
Speaker 3: altering the timing of collections with others, and even exercising our termination rights when we are unable to reach agreement.
Speaker 3: While we recognize that some of these decisions may have a temporary impact on our reported results, we remain confident that these service agreement modifications will further strengthen our client partnerships and position us to exit the year with cost of services in line with our historical target of 86%.
Speaker 3: To that end, before we get into the specifics of the Q2 results, I'd like to discuss several items related to our service agreement modification efforts that we expect will affect our Q3 results.
Speaker 3: First, we expect Q3 revenue to be affected by an estimated $10 million related to facility exits.
Speaker 3: The facility exits primarily reflect instances in which we could not reach agreement with customers to capture recent and future inflation on a more real time basis.
Speaker 3: Second, we anticipate a one-time reduction of 17 million in revenue and 9 million in operating income net of reserves related to the expected restructuring of our note receivable with a certain client.
Speaker 3: Because this is a negotiated restructuring with an existing customer, we expect that this will be accounted for as a one-time reduction of $17 million in revenue and $9 million in operating income rather than a bad debt expense.
Speaker 3: After considering the estimated impact from the facility exits and one time reduction related to the anticipated note restructuring, we estimate Q3 reported revenue base of 395 to 400 million and then a Q4 revenue base of 412 to 417 million, absent any new business additions or facility exits.
Speaker 3: Finally, there was a temporary impact on cash collections in the quarter, as a result of proactively altering the timing of collections with certain clients.
Speaker 3: In the second half of 2022, we expect to make up a portion of these amounts in addition to collecting what we built.
Speaker 3: Overall, our negotiations to modify the service agreements have come with certain puts and takes but we believe will position us much more favorably in the long term.
Speaker 3: So, with those introductory comments, I'll turn the call over to Matt for a more detailed discussion on Q2 results.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Ted. Good morning, everyone. Revenue for the quarter was $424.9 million with housekeeping and laundry and dining and nutrition segment revenues of $199.1 million and $225.8 million respectively. Now Q2 was impacted by around $2.5 million related to the facility exits that Ted just mentioned with three quarters of that and dining about a quarter of it and housekeeping. Screen.
Speaker 3: Direct cost of services was reported at $379.4 million or 89.3 percent. And cost of services was impacted by a $7 million increase in AR reserves related to a client group that was placed into receivership. And as Ted mentioned earlier, we remain on track to meet our goal of exiting the year with cost of services in line with our historical target of 86 percent.
Speaker 3: Housekeeping in Laundry and Dining and Nutrition Segment margins were 9% and 4.5% respectively.
Speaker 3: S-GNA was reported at $29.3 million, but after adjusting for a $6.4 million decrease in deferred compensation, actual S-GNA was $35.7 million or 8.4%. And we expect 2020 to S-GNA to approximate 8.5 to 9.5% in that range. S-GNA is $25.7 million or 8.5% in that range.
Speaker 3: We reported an effective tax rate of 17.3% and expect a 2022 tax rate between 24 and 26%.
Speaker 3: Net income for the quarter came in at $6.8 million, and earnings were $0.9 per share.
Speaker 3: As I highlighted earlier, Q2 operating income was impacted by a $7 million increase in AR reserves related to a client group that was placed into receivership, which reduced operating income by $7 million and reported earnings per share by about $0.7 per share. Q2 operating income was impacted by $0.7 per share by about $0.7 per share.
Speaker 3: Cash flow from operations for the quarter was $9 million and was impacted by a $31.6 million increase in accounts receivable, primarily related to the timing of cash collections, offset in part by a $19.4 million increase in accrued payroll. DSO for the quarter was 71 days. And as far as the payroll accrual, we would point out that the Q3 payroll accrual will be 6 days, and that compares to the 12 days that we had in the second quarter.
Speaker 3: But the payroll accrual only relates to timing and the impact ultimately washes out through the full year.
Speaker 3: We are pleased with the ongoing strength of our balance sheet and the ability to support the business while continuing to return capital to our shareholders.
Speaker 3: We announced that the board of directors approved an increase in the dividend to 21.375 cents per share, payable on September 23, 2022. The cash balance is supported and with the dividend tax rate in place for the foreseeable future, Cash Dividend Program remains the most tax-efficient way to get free cash flow and ultimately maximize return to shareholders.
Speaker 3: This will mark the 77th consecutive cash dividend payment since the program was instituted in 2003, and the 76th consecutive quarterly increase that's now a 19-year period that's included four 3-for-2 stock splits.
Speaker 3: So with those opening remarks, we'd now like to open up the call for questions.
Speaker 2: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.
Speaker 2: Your first question comes from a line of Andy Whitman from Beard. Your line is open.
Speaker 4: Hi, great, thanks. Good morning, guys. I wanted to ask, I guess, questions related to the revenue line. And specifically, Ted, maybe you could talk a little bit about the dynamics on the price increases that you're trying to realize in response to the inflation versus the customer loss. Sequentially, the revenues were down just a smidge. But I would imagine that the price increases where a decent factor. Can you just help us understand?
Speaker 4: where you think by the end of the year, when you get to 4Q, how the dynamic between price increases and customer loss is going to wash out on the revenue line? In other words, do you think that the price increases will more than offset the customer losses that may result from the pricing discussions that you're having?
Speaker 3: There's some upside, I think, for sure, Andy to the revenue-based numbers we shared, which were $395 to $400 for Q3 and 412 to $417 for Q4. But beyond that, the visibility that we have is more related to the 86% cost of services. And hopefully you can appreciate as some of these negotiations are still, although they're in the final stages, they're still active and ongoing.
Speaker 3: And we want to be sensitive to that and respect the process without negotiating out in the open. So look, there's certainly some upside to that range that we provided, but that's the revenue base that we feel most comfortable providing. And we do have conviction around that 86% cost of services. That's been the goal since we started the year. We knew it would be, you know, on all hands-on deck exercise involving, you know, bottoms up client by client, customer by customer approach. And we've made significant progress, especially during the second quarter.
Speaker 3: But again, in terms of revenue and cost of services, those ranges we provided are what we're most comfortable sharing. Yeah, just on that gross margin comment or the 86 target versus what you put in the quarter, how, how, um, how is the, how is the gross margin?
Speaker 4: How indicative is the quarter's result on gross margin? In other words, how much of the changes that you're looking for were realized in the quarter? Recognizing that I know you were working hard, was it substantially not realized in the quarter that the three Q and four Q rates are gonna be much more, I mean, you're saying it's 86. I'm just trying to understand. It seems like there's a decent amount of work to get there, so I'm trying to understand how much of an impact the changes you've made were impacting the second quarter results.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we did have the client that was placed into receiver ship, which impacted cost of services by about seven million. So if you adjusted for that, cost of services would have been more in line with where we were last quarter, which reflected certainly some traction and some gains we had as a result of the service agreement, modification efforts, as well as operational improvements around labor management, specifically related to overtime and premium pay.
But to your point, Andy, the efforts, and ultimately the results of the service agreement modification efforts are really more back-end loaded, meaning they won't be realized in full until the first quarter of 2023, which is why we're framing it. And orienting our strategies around exiting the year at that 86% cost of services run rate.
Thanks, guys.
Your next question comes from the line of Taokui from Stiefel. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning. I was curious if you guys could provide some colors on the trend of labor and food costs in the quarter. And just regarding kind of the guidance on the quarterly revenue, the $70 million step up from the third quarter to the fourth quarter, is that a reflection of the real-time pricing adjustment that we achieved through the contract negotiations?
So I just did tackle the second question first, as Ted noted, we're still sort of in the final stages of negotiation with several clients of ours. So we've not fully completed that exercise. So it's hard at this point to necessarily project the exact output and the effect that it'll have, not only from a revenue perspective that Ted alluded to, but perhaps some choppiness as we work through the back half of the year from a rev, or I'm sorry, from a margin perspective. So from our perspective, obviously.
we're interested in establishing the best outcome for the partnership, such that we're gonna establish a really sustainable partnership with our clients and of course very much focused on exiting the year at 86%. So we anticipate that as we're in the concluding stages here of these negotiations, there could be some additional choppiness, it's not necessarily gonna be that nice clean perfectly linear.
pathway to get to 86% with you know corresponding increases in revenue per se but but certainly we are in the final stages and once that work is complete we are very much focused on exiting the year 86% which is still you know very much on on target for from our perspective. And Tal just to put a finer point on even maths commentary if I if I heard you correctly yes that's $17 million one-time reduction that we anticipate.
to revenue in the third quarter, which would have a corresponding $9 million reduction in operating income would strictly be one time. If this negotiation of that restructuring plays out the way...
We believe it may that would be a one-time effect in Q3 which would then again it would not be part of recurring revenue it's just the accounting treatment of how that particular transaction or restructuring would be handled.
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So the bounce back in the fourth quarter just reflects the one-time nature of that ride.
or just reflect the one time nature of that ride. That's exactly right.
Right, and then to your initial question, to all of you sort of live stream?
Inflationary environment. You know. You know.
I would say that we're sort of comparable to last quarter. As far as the labor side, there were some stabilization, some signs of improvement related to our internal data and experience from an industry perspective, if we think more broadly about the skilled nursing industry. For the first time in over two years, we saw some improvement in the nursing home workforce data. From March through June preliminary data suggests that there was about 13,000 hires.
added to the industry. So we're still looking to get back to pre-pandemic levels of employees within the space, and there was a bit of an uptick between March and June , so that's encouraging. The most recent five months of data also suggest that wages of employees, more broadly within the nursing and residential care facilities, may be stabilizing, and this is reflective of our experience as well. The industry saw a then high in wages in January , followed by a drop in subsequent months and preliminary numbers for May looked to be level with January .
And our numbers are comparable, you know, a similar trend with a peak in March that has dropped modestly through May. Similarly, our application data is trending in a positive direction. We've seen a steady climb in the applications received. We've gotten about 33% more applications in June that compared to the month of January . So, you know, currently hires are outpacing employees' separations, which is obviously, you know, encouraging and that's where we need to continue to drive.
that dynamic. So stabilization and modest improvement is certainly encouraging, but there's obviously still quite a ways to go within the industry and market in general to really foster that full recovery of staffing, which would then have the trickle down impact on occupancy as well. As to the sort of broader inflationary metrics, Tal, you know, we saw CPI similarly in the quarter about 2.6% change in Q2.
you know food at home inflation specifically was about 3.4% and wage inflation was about 2.1%. So again, the theme would be stabilization and some encouraging signs. and some encouraging signs.
Gotcha. Those are very helpful points. One more clarification from me. You mentioned that you guys are considering adjusting timing of collection as one of the factors you could use for negotiations. Just curious, would these adjustments be one time or permanently in nature and how do you think about where DSO will shape up in the second half?
You know, again, client-specific, very situational. What I can tell you without getting into, you know, specific examples that we either settled on or may work through is that overall, if you think about the shortfall that we had in the first half of the year, more than half of that was driven, you know, through intentional negotiation, and we expect to make up a significant portion of that.
through the back half of the year, in addition to what collecting what we built. So that said, you know, temporary in many cases, tell, although there were, you know, some instances where we decided to make permanent adjustments. But, you know, they were all, again, client by client bottoms up strategy. And when that's a tactic in that strategy, that's no different. It's very client driven.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from a line of Sean Dodge from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Thanks, morning. Is there any more detail you can share around the client group that was placed into receivership? And you know, I guess we said both a housekeeper and dining client, any bookend, you can kind of give us around how much revenue they contribute and then maybe any soft you have on your ability to retain that business. there.
Yeah, so Sean, without getting into the specifics, that was a client group. We did in fact provide both dining and housekeeping services there. It was placed into receivership and that facility will be shuttering its doors. So to your point, we will be obviously walking away from that piece of business.
as far as the revenue contribution.
About $2 million per quarter would be among that group of the revenue impact between both services.
Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. And then...
I guess it's been six or seven months now since you made the acquisition into the education market. Are there any updates you can give us on thoughts or timelines around one we could see? Maybe a more meaningful push there?
Yeah, you know, Sean, unlike sort of the base business within the skilled nursing end market, there is quite a bit of seasonality to that end market as you'd probably imagine. So we're sort of in the operational ramp up phase right now where really the spring is kind of the selling season where schools are looking to make determinations as to whether to outsource or potentially switch their outsourcing partners in the upcoming anticipation of the fall academic year beginning. Great job.
but I'd say that what has been initiated as a potential new end market to explore is increasingly appealing from our perspective.
Okay, sounds good. Thanks again.
Your next question comes from a line of AJ writes from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
Hey guys, this is Nate on for AJ. I just had a real quick question, I guess on how we should be thinking about dietary margins going forward kind of given the two-quarter lag in any, you know, food inflation pass-through. I guess specifically, you know, if we think that the delta between actual food inflation and what you're being reimbursed for kind of shifts more favorably in the future, I guess could we see any benefit to margin?
We could, you know, right, there was anything Matt highlighted it, but we had a, you know, there was a negative delta due to the lag in Q2. And as when the pace of inflation either slows or flattens altogether, there would be some residual gain to the margins as well for the portion that relates to the non-labor portion of the building. So that is, that is some possibility. Again, we're not banking or betting on that. We're going to continue to execute operationally. That's really...
the second quarter was 3.4% so that you'd see pass through in the fourth quarter.
Thanks, guys. That was very helpful.
Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Daniels from William Blair. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning, guys. This is Jack Semp, for Ryan Daniels. Thanks for taking my question. I think a lot of my questions have been touched on already, but just kind of curious how the remainder of the service agreement modifications went with customers. I guess especially as it relates to the exits that you mentioned in your prepared remarks. So I guess like did you find that as time went on and inflationary concerns kind of grew in the overall market that kind of had to pivot your approach for these negotiations and conversations? And with that said, as time did kind of crawl on, did you experience greater pushback kind of towards this?
all of which from our perspective meant to most favorably position healthcare services group and and of course the partnership in a durable sustainable way with the customers so you know there were there were a lot of elements that came into play not only the ongoing inflation but you know the labor environment and the effect that that's had on occupancy you know the fact that we've seen you know largely a drying up of additional federal funds available and that the focus of operators has really moved toward state based based based
reimbursement relief and additional financial uh... benefit that they can achieve at the state-based level so i guess the ultimate take away that there were a lot of moving parts we feel confident and that we were able to gain what it is that we needed from our customers and clearly in the instances in which we were not uh... then we made the decision to exit the business and and for anyone who's followed the company for any length of time would appreciate that's not something that we do cavalier that's not something that we do cavalier
we don't leave a single facility in a cavalier manner, certainly much less an amount more than one facility. So that's not something that we do lightly, but of course we are acting in the best interest of the company. And I would say that it's worth noting when we do exit a facility, particularly in a situation like this, we shake hands, we part ways as friends, and we'll keep tabs on that facility, we'll keep an eye on the economics that persist in that specific facility's market, and there's nothing that suggests that that.
procedures that we implement the additional managerial support that we provide with the district manager and the directors of operations at the regional level. So the ultimate takeaway is we did in fact, of course, exit business as we're in the final stages of completing these negotiations. There's nothing that suggests that we may not leave additional facilities. That's not something that we anticipate, but of course we're prepared for that should it come to it. But ultimately, in spite of all these moving parts, we know that we're making the right decisions.
to most favorably position the company and of course the corresponding client relationships going forward. Great, understood. Yeah, I truly appreciate comments on that. Thanks. And then just just the follow-up in terms of occupancy, I know last quarter was kind of mentioned that this would be an area to watch closely going forward into the next six months or so, and that it was tracking pretty well in favorably in terms of recovery. So just kind of curious what you're seeing in terms of the health of the Nmark and now. And if the industry is still on pace to kind of recover back to the I think it was the 80% benchmark by beginning 2020.
are not as encouraging as it was say a quarter ago. There's been some stagnation right now. National occupancy sits at around 74%, which is about 70 bips higher than it was at the end of March. That would put the industry to the point of your question on pace to reach recovery somewhere towards the middle to late 23 rather than the beginning of 23. And that said, you know, our take.
is that we're very bullish on the notion that the industry will recover. It's just a matter of timing. I do believe staffing is going to be the most critical component to that recovery. But again, in the near term, we have to remain disciplined in our approach and make decisions accordingly. But again, ultimately, it's a matter of when, not if, but we're gonna continue to monitor those dynamics as closely as possible. Thank you.
Great, thanks for taking my question. Your next question comes from a line of meter-round global from Sid Dottie. Your line is open. Your line is open.
Yes, hi, good morning and thanks for taking the question. Just wanted to follow up a little on the occupancy. It starts to tick up a little. Are you getting more inbound calls? Do you have the ability to take on new business in light of the difficulty of the market right now?
I think opportunistically, Mitra, yes. You know, aside from monitoring all the dynamics I mentioned earlier very closely, the continued pressures on the providers certainly, you know, coupled with the secular trends we've talked about previously, amplify our value prop, they have increased demand inbound calls to your point for our services, and they create opportunities to grow the company. You know, our focus disproportionately this year, I think heading this year to date, and then heading into the back half of the year continues to be. And then heading into the back half of the year continues to be.
for 3Q4Q, that's assuming no new business.
Yeah, that assumes a neutral state, you know, x.
any facility exit toward new business ads.
Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions.
Your next question comes from a line of Sean Dodge from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Yep, thanks. Just a quick follow up. Ted, you mentioned that the pricing resets will be phased in over the back half of the year. That's 412, the 417 million range you gave for Q4. Should we think about that being a run rate for the quarter or you anticipate exiting Q4 at something better than that as those prices get a little bit?
Run rate for Q4, but just to be clear, Sean, I wasn't suggesting because we don't have, we don't quite have the visibility into the timing of some of those revenues being added where we've negotiated service agreement modifications, we do have visibility into it, but the ones that are still in flux are in the final stages of negotiation. We don't have clear, clear eye view to the timing of that, so really...
I think the revenue guidance we provided as far as the run rates would be kind of our expectations and then to the extent there's updates on that positive or otherwise we would provide that next quarter or the quarter thereafter. We do however have better visibility into the fact that we plan on exiting the year at 86% cost of services. So the timing of the revenue adds over the back half of the year we have less visibility into. With the conviction that come the first quarter of next year.
the modifications will be behind us and we'll be able to, you know, everybody will be able to see the progress that we've made and, you know, the result of all the actions that we've taken.
Okay, great. Thanks again.
And your next question comes from a line of Brian Tankilla from Jefferies. Your line is open!
Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for letting me ask a question. I guess Ted, first question for you. So as we think about the health of the client base, right, I think we've all been focused on your biggest client over the last year or so. A little bit of a surprise here with the receivership of this one client. So how are you thinking about the health of the remaining client base as we think about the challenges that the industry continues to face, as you said? Recovery and occupancy won't happen until mid to late next year.
Well, I look, the industry right now is in a recovery phase, right? And there's the path and the pace of that recovery continue to be a bit uncertain. Again, longer term, probably certainly confidence of the ultimate recovery, whether that's the middle of next year, or if it's pushed out further, because of some of the staffing challenges that continue to manifest themselves. But again, our internal data and the best, one of the best.
metrics we were able to use for kind of our own customer health, which we clearly monitor as closely as possible, would be how our customers are paying us. And I think over the back half of the year, you know, our expectations are that we're going to be in a position to not only collect what we bill, but also make up a portion of the amounts that we either temporarily extended to customers or, in the event that we had shortfalls with customers for particular reasons, make up those shortfalls as well.
I think we're going to continue to monitor it closely, but again, the recovery is yet to be determined in terms of the timing, but optimistic there ultimately will be a recovery back to that 80% benchmark in terms of occupancy. And, you know, we'll go from there.
i just want to add that right yes i'm sorry another add on to that that you know uh... i don't think we've mentioned thus far would be you know the ninety day extension of the the public health emergency which has a favorable impact not only in the three days day requirement but but similarly has uh... a more pronounced effect on reimbursement rates in certain states uh... and and that kind of dot tells you to the other point that i want to make which is you know certainly from our perspective we keep an eye on the macro national level data
not only from a broader industry perspective, but within our customer base, but increasingly meaningful is what happens within certain states as it relates to, whether it's the public health emergency related provisions that each state might be supplementing, or state-based reimbursement increases that we're seeing. So the operating environment is increasingly varied from state to state based upon the level of support supplementation that each state is providing. So that of course factors into our calculus as well. And we're assessing the health of our current customer base.
that I think the industry other than monitoring it closely and Matt alluded to it. There's so many state-by-state variances. No, always planning for different scenarios, but no, that hasn't been a big topic of conversation among the customer base.
and i would like to add to that ryan that two things the the most obvious of which is you know we don't provide nurses you know as far as the direct impact on us it's it's non-existent uh... but the the court letter to that would be that generally speaking with additional uncertainty and pressure that operator's face you know they're forced to look at being as efficient as possible they're looking to contain their costs in in any way that they possibly can that the primary way in which they're able to achieve that is in outsourcing services of all types
I appreciate the gross margin targets, but how should we be thinking about your ability to reduce GNA to adjust to the shrinking top line?
Yeah, it's a great question, Brian , and the reality is that there's largely fixed cost in G&A. So from our perspective, when we exit a new piece of business, the primary objective is to be able to reassign the facility-based manager to a new opportunity as quickly as possible, whether that's an existing piece of business where we have the opportunity to upgrade perhaps an underperforming manager, or if it's repurposing that manager into a new business opportunity. But from our perspective, we're going to be able to do that.
growth mode, there's certainly opportunities for leverage there on the SgNA line.
there's certainly opportunities for leverage there on the sGNA line. Got it. All right. Thanks, guys.
And there are no further questions at this time. Mr. Headwall, I turn the call back over to you for some closing remarks.
Okay, great, thank you Rob. In the quarter ahead, we will continue to prioritize modifying our service agreements to adjust for the significant inflation experience during the past year, as well as account for future inflation on a more real-time basis, with the goal of exiting the year with cost of services in line with our historical target of 86%
Increasing cash collections with the goal of collecting what we bill and making up a portion of the shortfall from the first half of the year.
And of course, operational execution with the goal of delivering on our operational comparatives as we provide an extraordinary service and experience to our customers.
So on behalf of Matt and all of us at Healthcare Services Group, I wanted to thank Rob for hosting the call today. And again, thank you to all of you for joining.
This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Thank you.