Q3 2022 Azek Company Inc Earnings Call

August 4, 2022

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In the structured business delivered strong topline growth and sequential margin improvement.

We are excited about the launch of the new <unk> product and introducing it to the Asia customer network over the coming quarters.

We have seen strong performance from our 2022 decking and railing portfolio of new launches.

Including landmark testing and new color and prime plus setting and new rail products.

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The landmark collection like our other premium collections uses our proprietary sustainable PDC technology to create the most natural and highest performing products on the market.

After the Speakers' presentation there'll be a question and answer session. Please.

Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

I would now like to hand, the conference over to Eric Robinson. Please go ahead Eric.

On the exterior side, our focus on Underpenetrated markets and new product innovation have yielded great results, especially with our paint pro in shingle products, which has nearly doubled year to date.

Thank you and good morning, everyone. We issued our earnings press release and a supplemental earnings presentation. This morning to the Investor Relations portion of our website at investors Dot is at <unk> dot com as well as via 8-K on the SEC's website.

These products were designed to utilize higher recycled content and were specifically developed to compete against non PVC trim materials, including wood and other composites.

Im joined today by Jack <unk>, our Chief Executive Officer, and Peter Clifford, Our Chief Financial Officer.

I would like to remind everyone that during this call. We may make certain statements that constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including remarks about future expectations beliefs estimates forecasts plans and prospects such statements are subject to a variety of risks and uncertain.

Our team is actively working on new products across the portfolio to be launched next year and we look forward to sharing more information in the future.

We continue to invest in our brand consumer journey and downstream engagement we.

We recently launched our new timber tech everything which should be campaign, highlighting real professional and homeowner customer testimonials. These are designed to inspire consumers and their outdoor living designs.

As described in our periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission that could cause actual results to differ materially.

We do not undertake any duty to update such forward looking statements. Additionally, during today's call. We will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. These non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP.

And the latest Zhong that 2022 builder magazine brand use study our timber tech brand saw the largest year over year improvements in the brand familiarity and brands. Most of these categories for the composite PVC decking portfolio versus peers.

Reconciliations of such non-GAAP measures can be found in our earnings press release, which is posted on our website.

This highlights the power and effectiveness of our branding and awareness investments.

Okay.

Now, let me turn the call over to ASIC CEO Jessie Zheng.

We also recently issued our second annual full circle ESG report.

Good morning.

This details how ESG is at the core of our business strategy.

And thank you for joining today's call <unk> delivered strong third quarter performance highlighted by a 21% increase in net sales and a 19% increase in adjusted EBITDA over the comparable period last year.

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The people, we choose to hire and our unique position as both a recycler and a consumer of hundreds of millions of pounds of otherwise landfill waste and scrap each year.

These results exceeded our guidance for the quarter and were driven by solid in season demand and strong operational execution.

This report includes the achievement of a 23% reduction in our carbon intensity since 2019.

We saw continued demand from consumers and contractors is our channel maintained an aggressive posture to ensure high in <unk> and service levels. We.

Driven by our expanded use of recycled materials, which has the added benefit of reducing our costs.

We executed on our price cost margin coverage initiatives earlier than expected in the quarter and we saw raw materials begin to stabilize.

We are committed to pushing ourselves in the industry towards a more sustainable future and we believe that companies like <unk> have a great responsibility to make the world a better place.

Net sales in our residential segment increased 18% year over year, driven by solid growth across our exteriors deck rail and accessories and structure businesses.

Returning to results our third quarter saw positive sell through growth on top of very strong growth in the same prior year period are channeled indicated they had a strong June and through the quarter, we secured incremental contractor and channel conversions.

We also saw strong growth and profitability in our commercial segment with very strong sales and adjusted EBITDA growth.

The team has done a great job of repositioning the business over the last two years and put themselves in a position to drive outstanding results.

While demand continues to be healthy at a contractor and retail level, we have seen some signs of demand moderation versus last year.

During the quarter, we also made meaningful progress against our goal of increasing our use of recycled materials.

Actual end demand is tracking to be positive on a dollar basis and modestly negative on a unit basis as we lap some incredible growth quarters and gather more data on the season.

While we are very proud of the team's ability to execute and deliver in a dynamic environment. We continue to be focused on execution and positioning ourselves for long term growth and margin expansion.

Our contractor surveys point to above average market conditions and solid backlog this season, which remain elevated and consistent with the prior year.

As we highlighted in detail at our recent Investor day, we operate with a clear strategy to drive above market growth through market conversion material science, new product innovation multichannel expansion.

Over the last few quarters, we have seen contracts shift from supply chain inflation being a concern to a greater concern on labor and most recently economic uncertainty.

Discussions with our dealers tracks similarly, with current demand being solid, but a more cautious view of the future.

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We have a clear operational strategy of expanding the use of recycle.

From an internal demand signal perspective, digital leads and sample order activity was quite strong in Q as both grew strong double digits year over year versus the same period in 2021 and accelerated versus the prior quarter.

And leveraging our <unk> program to drive increased profitability.

As part of our release today, we announced the acquisition of impacts millwork, a provider of high quality railing.

<unk> <unk> and related millwork products, utilizing low maintenance alternative materials like PDC boards and aluminum.

We believe this reinforces timber tech strong consumer engagement, the favorable long term thematic trends in outdoor living and the large material conversion opportunity that make our business model so attractive.

<unk> is a strong player in our core railing and exteriors markets and strengthens our already strong presence in these categories, allowing us to offer a high end polymer based product to pair with our high end decking and exterior products.

At our Investor Day in June we highlighted the strength of our business model and we are confident in our ability to drive above market performance in any environment.

Consistent with our other investments the acquisition fits squarely within our M&A framework provides an attractive financial return and supports material conversion.

We also highlighted that we expected our channels to begin the process of Destocking as we move through the season impacting our expected 2022 results.

We plan to supplement <unk> existing strength in the northeast and mid Atlantic by scaling product categories and expanding the company's reach.

In recent weeks, our channel began to recalibrate their inventory needs and we are working with them to draw down their inventory.

<unk> improved service and lower lead times.

We are really excited to work with the existing <unk> and taking the business to the next level.

How are customers to more effectively manage their inventory and working capital to operate more efficiently.

Structure are recently acquired Tech enabled pergola business continues to exceed expectations as the team is delivering on operational synergies homeowner.

We believe that it is prudent to work with our channel to bring down inventory levels during the higher demand months within the season.

Homeowners are finding new creative ways to customize their outdoor living spaces with aluminum outdoor structures and the structure business delivered strong topline growth and sequential margin improvement.

And we believe that it positions us well to continue to drive ongoing penetration of the overall market.

As Pete will detail later this channel inventory Recalibration is the primary driver of our reduction in our fiscal 2022 guidance.

We are excited about the launch of the new <unk> product and introducing it to the Asia customer network over the coming quarters.

Combination of this inventory adjustment and the lapping of our prior year inventory restocking is expected to impact our next two quarters.

We have seen strong performance from our 2022 decking and railing portfolio of new launches.

Including landmark decades, and new color and prime plus decking and new rail products.

And <unk> and <unk>, we have taken proactive cost reduction actions and have aligned our factories to manage for lowered production, while using downtime for preventive maintenance recycle expansion and other key projects are.

The landmark collection like our other premium collections uses our proprietary sustainable PDC technology to create the most natural and highest performing products on the market.

Our modular manufacturing allows us to manage through these volume changes, while still investing in future cost savings and innovation projects.

We are also appropriately staging our growth capital and thoughtfully considering the timeline of commissioning additional new capacity at our Wilmington, and Boise facilities and as a result, we expect to lower our capex needs in fiscal 2023.

These products were designed to utilize higher recycled content and were specifically developed to compete against non PVC trim materials, including wood and other composites.

Our team is actively working on new products across the portfolio to be launched next year and we look forward to sharing more information in the future.

With respect to margin, we expect to see the benefits of our actions flowing through in <unk> and into 2023 importantly.

We continue to invest in our brand consumer journey and downstream engagement with.

Our pricing and productivity actions offset commodity inflationary pressures for the first time in the third quarter and combined with our recycled programs will provide margin benefits in Q4.

We have seen raw materials moderate in the last couple of months and between our pricing actions and our increasing use of recycle we are on track with our margin initiatives.

And the latest Zhong <unk> 2022 builder magazine brand use study our timber tech brands saw the largest year over year improvements in the brand familiarity and brands most used categories for the composite PVC decking portfolio versus peers. This highlights the power and effective.

We have been able to use our slack capacity to continue to drive a greater focus on recycle and cost initiatives and expect to achieve the targets, we highlighted at our Investor day.

This of our branding and awareness investments.

We are confident and excited about the long term opportunity and our business model, we play in attractive markets with a compelling opportunity and we are well positioned to outperform and strengthen our position over the short and long term and to achieve the broad ambitions. We shared in June .

We also recently issued our second annual full circle ESG report.

This details how ESG is at the core of our business strategy.

Products and innovations we bring to market.

The people, we choose to hire and our unique position at both a recycler and a consumer of hundreds of millions of pounds of otherwise landfill waste and scrap each year.

With that context, I'd like to pass the call over to Pete to discuss our third quarter results and the rest of the year outlook in further detail.

Okay.

Thanks, Jessie and good morning, everyone before we get into the third quarter results I wanted to provide some color around the operating environment during the quarter.

This report includes the achievement of a 23% reduction in our carbon intensity since 2019.

As Jesse mentioned upfront the majority of our underlying demand indicators remain positive with Leeds samples and contractor backlogs all point to strong interest in our category and products.

Driven by our expanded use of recycled materials, which has the added benefit of reducing our costs.

We are committed to pushing ourselves in the industry towards a more sustainable future and we believe that companies like APAC had a great responsibility to make the world a better place.

Underlying channel sell through trends were positive in <unk>, driven by price and end market demand.

Our channels behavior began to shift in the last four six weeks and we are working with them to lower channel inventory we.

Returning to results our third quarter saw positive sell through growth on top of very strong growth in the same prior year period, our channels indicated they had a strong June and through the quarter, we secured incremental contractor and channel conversions.

We believe this inventory reduction or approximately two quarters and we are working together with our channel partners to maintain high service levels to the end markets that we serve over the period.

In addition to this channel Recalibration I want to remind everyone of the prior year inventory build that we are lapping in <unk> 'twenty two.

While demand continues to be healthy at a contractor and retail level. We are seeing some signs of demand moderation versus last year.

Approximately $30 million plus.

From an operating perspective supply chains are stabilizing commodities are starting to moderate and our teams continue to execute well at the plant level.

Actual end demand is tracking to be positive on a dollar basis and modestly negative on a unit basis as we lap some incredible growth quarters and gather more data on the season.

During the third quarter commodity prices started to show signs of moderating.

Our contractor surveys point to above average market conditions and solid backlogs this season, which remain elevated and consistent with the prior year.

While material availability remained healthy.

As a reminder, we priced at the spring highs of commodity inflation back in March.

As we previously communicated our balance sheet lag is about four months for materials in about two months for labor and overhead.

Over the last few quarters, we have seen contractors shift from supply chain inflation being a concern to a greater concern on labor and most recently economic uncertainty.

We will talk more about the dynamics and the actions that we've taken in response to this changing environment and our outlook section later on.

Discussions with our dealers track similarly, with current demand being solid, but a more cautious view of the future.

For the third quarter of 2022, we delivered net sales growth of 21% year over year to 395 million with solid and broad based growth across our residential and commercial segments.

From an internal demand signal perspective, digital leads and sample order activity was quite strong in <unk> as both grew strong double digits year over year versus the same period in 2021 and accelerated versus the prior quarter.

During Q2, <unk> gross profit increased by $19 6 million or approximately 18% to $126 4 billion.

<unk> gross profit margins decreased to 32% versus the prior year to 32, 6%.

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Three Q2, adjusted gross profit increased by $23 4 million or approximately 19% to $147 6 million.

At our Investor Day in June we highlighted the strength of our business model and we are confident in our ability to drive above market performance in any environment.

Q2, adjusted gross profit margins declined 50 basis points to 37, 4% driven by approximately 120 basis points of near term dilution from the structure acquisition and our startup costs for the Boise facility.

We also highlighted that we expected our channels to begin the process of Destocking as we move through the season impacting our expected 2022 results.

Our core performance was positive year over year.

By favorable net price commodity and recycling initiatives and <unk>.

In recent weeks, our channel began to recalibrate their inventory needs and we are working with them to draw down their inventory.

Fortunately <unk> was the first time, we cover both the inflation dollars as well as the rate with our price realization benefiting our margin.

<unk> improved service and lower lead times.

Now our customers to more effectively manage their inventory and working capital to operate more efficiently.

Selling and general administrative expenses increased by 8 million to $78 7 million or 19, 9% of sales.

We believe that it is prudent to work with our channel to bring down inventory levels during the higher demand months within the season.

Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter increased by $13 8 million or up 19% to $86 5 million.

And we believe that it positions us well to continue to drive ongoing penetration of the overall market.

Adjusted EBITDA margins for the quarter declined 30 basis points to 21, 9% compared to 22, 2% in the prior year.

As Pete will detail later this channel inventory Recalibration is the primary driver of our reduction in our fiscal 2022 guidance.

Including approximately a 100 basis points of near term dilution.

The combination of this inventory adjustment and the lapping of our prior year inventory restocking is expected to impact our next two quarters.

From the structure acquisition and Boise facility startup costs.

No breakthrough dilution impact from acquisitions was 40 basis points and startup costs for another 60 basis points.

And <unk> and <unk>, we have taken proactive cost reduction actions and have aligned our factories to manage for lower production, while using downtime for preventive maintenance recycle expansion and other key projects.

Net income increased by $5 7 million to $27 5 million for the quarter compared to $21 8 million in the prior year, driven by higher sales and partially offset by higher year over year depreciation expense related to our capacity expansion program and higher interest expense.

Our modular manufacturing allows us to manage through these volume changes, while still investing in future cost savings and innovation projects.

Earnings per share increased by <unk> <unk> per share to <unk> 18 for.

For the quarter compared to <unk> 14 per share in the prior year.

Adjusted net income increased by $4 6 million to $45 2 billion or <unk> 29 per share for the third quarter compared to adjusted net income of $40 6 million or 26 per share a year ago.

With respect to margin, we expect to see the benefits of our actions flowing through.

In <unk> and into 2023 importantly, our.

Now turning to our segment results.

Our pricing and productivity actions offset commodity inflationary pressures for the first time in the third quarter and combined with our recycle programs will provide margin benefits in Q4.

Our residential segment net sales for the quarter increased by $51 9 million or approximately 18%.

$343 1 million.

This increase was driven by double digit growth in both our exteriors and decking categories, along with approximately $24 million as structural related sales.

We have seen raw materials moderate in the last couple of months and between our pricing actions and our increasing use of recycle we are on track with our margin initiatives.

Residential segment adjusted EBITDA for the quarter increased by $8 6 million or approximately 10% to $91 1 million.

We have been able to use our slack capacity to continue to drive a greater focus on recycle and cost initiatives and expect to achieve the targets, we highlighted at our Investor day.

The dilutive impact of the structure acquisition and startup costs on the residential segment adjusted EBITDA margins was 150 basis points of dilution in the quarter.

The commercial segment net sales for the quarter increased by $15 7 million or approximately 43% to $51 9 million we.

We saw both commercial businesses grow above the company average with exceptionally strong growth in Bai.

With that context, I'd like to pass the call over to Pete to discuss our third quarter results and the rest of the year outlook in further detail.

Bypass continues to see strength in outdoor lighting marine semiconductor and industrial end markets.

Okay.

Thanks, Jessie and good morning, everyone before we get into the third quarter results I wanted to provide some color around the operating environment during the quarter.

The commercial segment adjusted EBITDA for the quarter increased by $6 million or approximately 96% to $12 $3 million margin.

As Jesse mentioned upfront the majority of our underlying demand indicators remain positive with Leeds samples and contractor backlogs all point to strong interest in our category and products.

<unk> was driven by favorable net price commodity and productivity commercial business has put in a lot of effort over the last 18 months to improve the business and we're seeing the results of that effort.

Underlying sales software growth trends were positive in three Q, driven by price and end market demand.

From a balance sheet and cash flow perspective, we ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $159 6 million and approximately $147 2 million available for future borrowings under our revolving credit facility.

Our channels behavior began to ship in the last four six weeks and we are working with them to lower channel inventory.

We believe this inventory reduction OIS approximately two quarters, we are working together with our channel partners to maintain high service levels. The end markets that we serve over the period.

Working capital was $401 4 million, we ended the quarter with gross debt of $664 3 million, which included approximately $64 3 billion of finance leases our credit facility is undrawn.

In addition to this channel Recalibration I want to remind everyone of the prior year inventory build that we are lapping in 2022.

Approximately $30 million plus.

Net debt was $504 7 million.

From an operating perspective supply chains are stabilizing commodities are starting to moderate and our teams continue to execute well at the plant level.

Our net leverage ratio stood at one six at the end of the third quarter.

During the quarter, we executed a $50 million accelerated share repurchase program purchasing approximately two 5 million shares with a volume weighted average price of $19 93.

During the third quarter commodity prices started to show signs of moderating.

While material availability remained healthy.

As a reminder, we priced at the spring highs of commodity inflation back in March.

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In addition, we also repurchased approximately $8 million or 500000 shares with a volume weighted average price of $16 76.

As we previously communicated our balance sheet lag is about four months for materials in about two months for labor and overhead.

We will talk more about the dynamics and the actions that we've taken in response to this changing environment and our outlook section later on.

Open market purchases during breakeven.

The remaining authorization.

Under our share repurchase program is approximately $342 million and we will continue to look to act opportunistically to make repurchases.

For the third quarter of 2022, we delivered net sales growth of 21% year over year to 395 million with solid and broad based growth across our residential and commercial segments.

Our capital allocation priorities remain the same as we previously communicated.

<unk> gross profit increased by $19 6 million or approximately 18% to $126 4 billion.

Capital expenditures for the quarter were approximately $25 5 million largely driven by timing of cash outflows.

Related to our capacity expansion programs net.

<unk> gross profit margins decreased to 32% versus the prior year to 32 six.

Net cash provided in operating activities was $133 2 million during the quarter versus net cash provided in operating activities of $112 million during the prior year period.

Percent.

Three Q2, adjusted gross profit increased by $23 4 million or approximately 19% to $147 6 million.

As we turn to the outlook, let me provide some context and color on what we're seeing and assuming for the balance of the fiscal year.

For some comments on the top line.

As Jesse described we are working with our channel partners to focused on recalibrating their inventory positions.

We are estimating a $90 million plus inventory recalibration headwind in <unk> plus the previously mentioned prior year of approximately $30 million plus inventory replenishment that were lapping from the fourth quarter of 2021.

Our core performance was positive year over year.

And by favorable net price commodity and recycling initiatives and <unk>.

Fortunately <unk> was the first time, we cover both the inflation dollars as well as the rate with our price realizations benefiting our margin.

We are working with our dealer and distributor partners to reduce their inventory in fiscal <unk> 22 and for fiscal <unk> 23.

Selling and general administrative expenses increased by 8 million to $78 7 million or 19, 9% of sales.

Price continues to be positive.

But we see modestly negative unit volume in the second half of the year.

Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter increased by $13 8 million or up 19% to $86 5 million.

As we highlighted during our Investor day presentation, we have a resilient business model as we look forward, we continue to make progress on our recycling and Ames continuous improvement initiatives and experienced strong price realizations.

Adjusted EBITDA margins for the quarter declined 30 basis points to 21, 9% compared to 22, 2% in the prior year.

We expect these initiatives plus other cost actions to contribute to our fourth quarter results. Our management team is confident in our ability to manage through any market conditions.

Including approximately 100 basis points of near term dilution.

From the structure acquisition and Boise facility startup costs.

From the new capacity and Capex perspective, we are thoughtfully considering the timeline of commissioning of the remaining new capacity in Boise and Wilmington.

No breakthrough dilution impact from acquisitions was 40 basis points and startup costs for another 60 basis points.

Our capacity enables us to be nimble and flexible should new growth opportunities present themselves.

Fiscal 2023 cap capex to be more in line with our long term guidance.

I also thought I would share a few considerations on fiscal 2023 based upon what we can see today.

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There is a slide on page 12 of our posted <unk> earnings presentation highlights some of the elements that we see in the broad timing of their impact.

For the quarter compared to <unk> 14 per share in the prior year.

Adjusted net income increased by $4 6 million to $45 2 billion or <unk> 29 per share for the third quarter compared to adjusted net income of $40 6 million or 26 per share a year ago.

We have a number of initiatives that we are continuing to drive above market growth.

These include the large material conversion opportunities from one and other products.

New products and channel expansion, regardless of the market conditions. The majority of our market is still what we have an opportunity to add growth through conversion.

Now turning to our segment results.

The residential segment net sales for the quarter increased by $51 9 million or approximately 18%.

We have carryover from pricing, which we highlighted on the last call as a carryover benefit of approximately $30 million.

$343 1 million. This increase was driven by double digit growth in both our exteriors and decking categories, along with approximately $24 million and structure related sales.

We will have a full quarter of our structure acquisition plus nearly a full year contribution from the <unk> acquisition, we see signs of commodity inflation moderating and we have a clear path on the recycling opportunities, which we highlighted at our Investor day at our independent of volume.

Residential segment adjusted EBITDA for the quarter increased by $8 6 million or approximately 10% to $91 1 million.

Now turning to our guidance.

Our updated outlook for the remainder of the fiscal 'twenty two reflects the demand trends and indicators, we monitor our combined with the expected channel inventory dynamics.

The dilutive impact of the structure acquisition and startup costs on the residential segment adjusted EBITDA margins was 150 basis points of dilution in the quarter.

The partial quarter contribution from the impacts millwork acquisition is expected to be immaterial during the quarter.

The commercial segment net sales for the quarter increased by $15 7 million or approximately 43% to $51 9 million.

For the full fiscal year 2022, we now expect consolidated net sales between $1 billion $327 million to $1.353 billion, reflecting a year over year increase of approximately 13% to 15%.

We saw both commercial businesses grow above the company average with exceptionally strong growth in Bai.

<unk> continues to see strength in outdoor lighting marine semiconductor and industrial end markets.

Turning to our adjusted EBITDA guidance, we now expect adjusted EBITDA between 295 million to $307 million, reflecting a year over year increase of approximately 8% to 12%.

The commercial segment adjusted EBITDA for the quarter increased by $6 million or approximately 96%.

<unk> 3 million margin expansion was driven by favorable net price commodity and productivity.

We expect full year adjusted EBITDA margin dilution impact from the structure acquisition of approximately 50 basis points to 60 basis points at approximately 60% to 70 basis points from the capacity startup costs at our Boise facility, we expect full year adjusted diluted EPS.

Commercial business was put in a lot of effort over the last 18 months to improve the business and we're seeing the results of that effort.

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For <unk> 'twenty, two we expect consolidated net sales between 276 million to $302 million.

Working capital was $401 4 million, we ended the quarter with gross debt of $664 3 million, which included approximately $64 3 billion of finance leases our credit facility is undrawn.

We expect adjusted EBITDA between 59 million to 71 million.

<unk> adjusted EBITDA margin dilution impact from the structure acquisition of 60% to 70 basis points and approximately 60 basis points from the <unk>.

Net debt was $504 7 million and our net leverage ratio stood at one six at the end of the third quarter.

Noisy capacity startup costs.

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During the quarter, we executed a $50 million accelerated share repurchase program purchasing approximately two 5 million shares with a volume weighted average price of $19 93.

To assist in modeling, we now expect capital expenditures to come in towards the lower end of the $180 million to $200 million range for full year 'twenty two.

In addition, we also repurchased approximately $8 million or 500000 shares with a volume weighted average price of $16 76.

We expect <unk> 'twenty to interest expense to be approximately $6 million to $8 million and depreciation expense to be approximately $18 million to $21 million.

Via open market purchases during <unk>.

The remaining authorization.

Our tax rate for the full year 'twenty two is estimated to be approximately 25%.

Under our share repurchase program is approximately $342 million and we will continue to look to act opportunistically to make repurchases are.

Our full year weighted average diluted share count is now expected to be approximately 154 to 155 million shares.

Our capital allocation priorities remain the same as we previously communicated.

I'll now turn it back to Jesse for closing remarks.

Capital expenditures for the quarter were approximately $25 5 million largely driven by timing of cash outflows.

Thanks, Pete I would like to take a moment to thank our dedicated team members channel and supplier partners and contractors that support the as that company. Thank.

Related to our capacity expansion programs net.

Net cash provided in operating activities was $133 2 million during the quarter versus net cash provided in operating activities of $112 million during the prior year period.

Thank you once again for your continued focus dedication and your contribution to the results in the third quarter.

We have a couple of quarters to work through an adjustment in inventory, but the fundamentals of our business are strong as is our confidence in the future.

As we turn to the outlook, let me provide some context and color on what we're seeing and assuming for the balance of the fiscal year.

We are excited about our company and the long term opportunity that we have in front of us to convert the outdoor living industry into a more sustainable future.

For some comments on the top line.

As Jesse described we are working with our channel partners to focus on Recalibrating their inventory positions.

<unk> is benefiting from attractive thematic tailwind such as repair and remodel material conversion and outdoor living that we believe are in the early innings of a long term growth and value creation opportunity.

We had a clear strategy in Asia specific initiatives to drive above market growth and we believe that we are well positioned to win and deliver on our stated five year targets of double digit growth in our residential business and 500 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion.

We are working with our dealer and distributor partners to reduce their inventory in fiscal <unk> 22 and for fiscal <unk> 23.

Price continues to be positive.

But we see modestly negative unit volume in the second half of the year.

As we highlighted during our Investor day presentation, we have a resilient business model as we look forward, we continue to make progress on our recycling and aims continuous improvement initiatives and experienced strong price realizations.

We remain confident and focused.

With that operator, please open the line for questions.

If you would like to ask a question. Please press star one on your telephone keypad now you'll.

You will be placed into the queue in the order received.

We expect these initiatives plus other cost actions to contribute to our fourth quarter results. Our management team is confident in our ability to manage through any market conditions.

Please be prepared to ask your question when prompted.

Once again, if you have a question. Please press star one on your phone now.

From the new capacity and Capex perspective, we are thoughtfully considering the timeline of commissioning of the remaining new capacity in Boise and Wilmington.

Please limit your questions to one question to allow time for everyone.

And our first question comes from Keith.

Keith Hughes.

Our capacity enables us to be nimble and flexible should new growth opportunities present themselves.

Your line is open.

Thank you.

A couple of questions.

Fiscal 2023 cap capex that would be more in line with our long term guidance.

First you had referred to a $90 million of Recalibration does that $90 million include the $30 million of inventory build in the prior year.

I also thought I would share a few considerations on fiscal 2023 based upon what we can see today.

The router is on top of it all.

On top of that Keith This is Peter.

There is a slide on page 12 of our posted <unk> earnings presentation highlights some of the elements that we see in the broad timing of their impact.

Didn't build $30 million in the fourth quarter of last year, and we intend to take $90 million out of this year.

100000 net overbuild.

We have a number of initiatives that we are continuing to drive above market growth.

Two to four quarters as I'm understanding that correct.

Correct Okay.

These include the large material conversion opportunities from one and other products.

And I guess a question on the inventory situation.

New products and channel expansion, regardless of the market conditions. The majority of our market is still was.

At this point do you believe it's going to impact your December quarter as much as the September quarter.

We have an opportunity to add growth through conversion.

There'll be some some lessening.

We have carryover from pricing, which we highlighted on the last call as a carryover benefit of approximately $30 million.

The new fiscal year, yes, here's what I would say Keith. This is obviously, it's difficult to size. The <unk> 23 impact right now without having the <unk> sell through profile, but based upon what we can see today.

I would kind of call the range.

<unk> sort of zero and $35 million is kind of a likely.

Goalposts from inventory reduction perspective in <unk>.

Now turning to our guidance.

Okay, and then final question on loan production levels can you give us any idea what what's your production levels are going to look like over the next six months to address those.

Our updated outlook for the remainder of the fiscal 'twenty two reflects the demand trends and indicators, we monitor our combined with the expected channel inventory dynamics.

Yes, I would say Keith probably extends out even nine months.

The partial quarter contribution from the impacts millwork acquisition is expected to be immaterial during the quarter.

We are sizing our workforce and our.

Our facilities to not only help our channel partners reduced inventory, but obviously take inventory off of our balance sheet and generate cash.

For the full fiscal year 2022, we now expect consolidated net sales between $1 billion $327 million to $1.353 billion, reflecting a year over year increase of approximately 13% to 15%.

So we are we've aligned our operations for a little bit different.

Perspective looking forward.

Okay, Yes.

Turning to our adjusted EBITDA guidance, we now expect adjusted EBITDA between 295 million to $307 million, reflecting a year over year increase of approximately 8% to 12%.

If I could.

If I could just add.

One quick comment on that.

As you look at.

As you look at Q1.

Implied in how we're looking at it is we would assume a.

A days on hand, as we're looking at this to start to trend to the low side or a below normal days on hand, and so thats part of what we're considering is as we talk about.

Where we might end up over the next two quarters.

We expect full year adjusted diluted EPS to be between <unk> 95.

Okay. Thank you very much.

At $1 <unk> per share.

Yes.

Our next question comes from Tim Walsh.

For <unk> 'twenty, two we expect consolidated net sales between 276 million to $302 million, we expect adjusted EBITDA between 59 million to $71 million.

Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, everybody and thanks for all the details on the next few quarters.

Maybe just just thinking about kind of the puts and takes on margin.

<unk> adjusted EBITDA margin dilution impact from the structure acquisition of 60% to 70 basis points and approximately 60 basis points from the Boise capacity startup costs.

Maybe just kind of walk through how we should think about kind of the volume related decrementals and what the impact of that is and then just how we should think of the other kind of cost offsets and maybe what price cost looks like over the next couple of quarters.

<unk> <unk> adjusted diluted EPS to be between 15 to <unk> 19 per share.

Yes, Tim this is Peter.

To assist in modeling, we now expect capital expenditures to come in towards the lower end of the $180 million to $200 million range for full year 'twenty two.

Look as we communicated at our Investor day.

And we have supplied a chart here in the deck I think it's chart 12 that gives you some of the perspective on.

We expect <unk> 'twenty to interest expense to be approximately $6 million to $8 million and depreciation expense to be approximately $18 million to $21 million.

Sort of what are some of the known considerations for 2023.

Again, similar to the Investor Day, I think what we've said and we would reaffirm.

Our tax rate for the full year 'twenty two is estimated to be approximately 25%.

We're not trying to predict the macro but if you want it.

Understanding the Decrementals, if volume were down 5%.

Our full year weighted average diluted share count is now expected to be approximately 154 to 155 million shares.

At our core.

Based upon what we know that we carry over we feel like even with volume down 5% in the core we could probably hold revenue and EBITDA dollars flat.

I will now turn it back to Jesse for closing remarks.

Thanks, Pete I would like to take a moment to thank our dedicated team members channel and supplier partners and contractors that support the as that company. Thank.

Year over year.

Okay.

Okay. That's helpful.

And if I could just add I think as you take a look at.

Thank you once again for your continued focus dedication and your contribution to the results in the third quarter.

What we're guiding to in Q4.

We have a couple of quarters to work through an adjustment in inventory, but the fundamentals of our business are strong as is our confidence in the future.

You can clearly see as you start to do the math the benefit of some of the actions, we've talked about whether that be price raw or.

We are excited about our company and the long term opportunity that we have in front of us to convert the outdoor living industry into a more sustainable future.

Or the benefit of recycle you can start to see that flowing through into the.

The P&L and as we talked about those are those are terrific tailwind as as we look not only at the next couple of quarters, but as we look out into <unk>.

Into 'twenty three.

Okay. Okay.

That's helpful and then as Youre kind of going through this destocking.

Process.

Has there been any sort of kind of pressure on unit pricing at all.

No I think the right way to think of it if you just step back right.

As we work with our channels.

They have more inventory than they want to have is as we look to end the quarter and were making certain assumptions.

We remain confident and focused.

With that operator, please open the line for questions.

About Q1, the great thing about being proactive and taking actions now is that we're in the middle of the season, we're seeing really good demand products coming off the shelf.

If you would like to ask a question. Please press star one on your telephone keypad now.

You will be placed into the queue in the order received.

And we're in a really good position.

Please be prepared to ask your question when prompted.

Draw down that inventory through demand.

Once again, if you have a question. Please press star one on your phone now.

And we think that sets us up well into the into 'twenty three.

Okay, Okay, I'll keep it to two thanks guys.

Please limit your questions to one question to allow time for everyone.

Thanks, Tim.

And our first question comes from.

Our next question comes from Matthew Bouley.

Keith Hughes.

Your line is open.

Thank you.

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions.

Couple of questions.

First you had referred to a $90 million of Recalibration does that $90 million include the $30 million of inventory build in the prior year.

To the extent Youre speaking to production coming down.

I'm thinking about kind of the last year.

The router is on top of it all.

Do we have a situation kind of the opposite of the difficulty you had in the past year.

On top of that Keith This is Peter.

$30 million in the fourth quarter of last year, and we intend to take $90 million out of this year.

Increasing your mix of recycled materials when demand and production was so high.

As we look out in this scenario is the case, where you could perhaps more meaningfully.

100000 net overbuild.

Increase the mix of recycled materials.

Two to four quarters as I'm understanding that correct.

Correct Okay.

Yeah.

And I guess a question on the inventory situation.

Thanks for the question and I'll take it at a high level I think youre looking at absolutely the right way the challenge we've had over the last year.

At this point do you believe it's going to impact your December quarter as much as the September quarter.

And really the last 18 months is we've had to use all of our capacity to meet demand.

There'll be some some lessening.

This fiscal year, yes, here's what I would say Keith this is honestly, it's difficult to size. The <unk> 23 impact right now without having the <unk> sell through profile.

And as we now have slack capacity, it's giving us an opportunity to more aggressively drive conversion.

And PVC in particular, we.

We now have supply we've got the capability and machine time to be able to do the work necessary to increase recycle in and so it puts us in a.

Based upon what we can see today I would kind of call the range.

<unk> sort of zero and $35 million is kind of a likely.

Goalposts from inventory reduction perspective in <unk>.

A really good position to meet.

At least meet.

Okay, and then final question on loan production levels can you give us any idea what what's your production levels are going to look like over the next six months to address those.

The goals that we talked about and get creative on ways. We can we can continue to increase the recycled.

Got it that's really helpful. Thank you for that Jessica and then just second one back to the channel inventories I think I heard you say Pete in.

Yes, I would say Keith probably extends out even nine months.

We are sizing our workforce at R.

In the December quarter.

Our facilities to to not only help our channel partners reduced inventory, but obviously take inventory off of our balance sheet and generate cash.

Potential reduction of between zero and $35 million, if I heard that correctly.

In your view is that is that kind of the last of it or do these channel reductions, perhaps continue into the March quarter, and maybe just kind of layer on your views of.

So we are we've aligned our operations for a little bit different.

Perspective looking forward.

Okay, Yes.

Little Crystal ball, but to the extent your views on sell through kind of how thats going to play out through the couple of quarters here. Thank you yeah I'll take it at a high level in <unk>.

I could.

If I could just add.

One quick comment on that I think as you look at.

As you look at Q1.

Implied in how we're looking at it is we would assume a.

He can to dive into a.

A bit of detail I think as we look at it.

A days on hand, as we're looking at this to start to trend to the low side or a below normal based on hand, and so thats part of what we're considering is.

I think it's prudent to.

To be proactive and have a conservative view on where channel inventories should be.

As we talk about.

And as such.

Where we might end up over the next two quarters.

We would we would hope that the bulk of any.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Re re sizing of inventory in the channel would be complete.

Okay.

Our next question comes from Tim Walsh.

By the end of our first quarter.

Your line is open.

And by the way when we're talking about channel, it's not just our distribution channel, it's making sure that our dealers.

Hey, good morning, everybody and thanks for all the details on the next few quarters.

Are in a good spot as they continue to look to manage their own cash so our intent and our hope would be.

Maybe just just thinking about kind of the puts and takes on margin.

We'd be through the vast majority of it through the through.

Can you maybe just kind of walk through how we should think about kind of the volume related decrementals and what the impact of that is and then just how we should think of the other kind of cost offsets and maybe what price cost looks like over the next couple of quarters.

Through the first quarter of this year.

Our next year I'm sorry.

Our next question comes from filling.

Your line is open.

Yes, Tim this is Peter.

Guys.

It'd be helpful kind of remind us I guess initial plan in terms of last year sometimes.

Look as we communicated at our Investor day.

We supplied a chart here in the deck I think it's chart 12 that gives you some of the perspective on sort of what are some of the known considerations for 2023.

Capacity, you're targeting a forget if it was like a 70% 80% increase in.

A few years back, but now that growth is moderating a little bit I think in your prepared remarks, you kind of alluded to maybe not ramping Boise as much as quickly or the magnitude. So can you kind of help quantify what you were targeting before and how youre thinking about now.

Again, similar to the Investor day.

Think what we've said and we would reaffirm.

Yes.

We're not trying to predict the macro but if you wanted some understanding of Decrementals, if volume were down 5%.

Yes, yes, just at a very high level.

We had talked about completing 50% already in earlier quarters and that we were targeting a 100% increase.

At our core.

Based upon what we know that we carry over we feel like even with volume down 5% in the core we could probably hold revenue and EBITDA dollars flat.

A little over 100% increase from a 2019 baseline we're roughly in that 80% level right now.

Year over year.

And.

The remaining capacity both in Boise that we need to add but also in Wilmington will have an ability to stage.

Okay.

Okay. That's helpful.

And if I could just add I think as you take a look at.

That remaining 20% appropriately.

What we're we're guiding to in Q4.

And so at a macro level. The way you should think of it is 80% give or take is deployed and we've got another 20% to 25%.

You can clearly see as you start to do the math the benefit of some of the actions, we've talked about whether that be price raw or.

That we can stage and bring.

Bring online as needed.

For the benefit of recycle you can start to see that flowing through into the P&L and as we talked about those are those are terrific tailwind as as we look not only at the next couple of quarters, but as we look out into <unk> into 'twenty three.

Either at the end of this year or earlier, if we needed or later, if we need it.

Hey, sorry.

'twenty three.

Got it any feel for how much of that 80% is consumed at this point I mean, you're obviously seeing quite strong growth last few years.

Okay. Okay. That's helpful and then as Youre kind of going through this destocking.

Yeah, We don't guide there, we're really happy with the 80%.

That we have I mean, certainly.

Process.

Has there been any sort of kind of pressure on unit pricing at all.

You should consider that right now from a volume perspective, if you look at it from 2019, where we didn't have enough capacity to where we sit now even with the adjusted guide down where more than 30% above where we were and clearly we have ambitions to continue to grow off that.

No I think the right way to think of it.

If you just step back right.

As we work with our channels.

They have more inventory than they want to have is as we look to end the quarter and were making certain assumptions.

Bass and <unk>.

And so if you just do the math, we needed slack capacity were bigger than we were and so we feel really good about the capacity we have online and just as a reminder, we have said this.

About Q1, the great thing about being proactive and taking actions now is that we're in the middle of the season, we're seeing really good demand products coming off the shelf.

And we're in a really good position.

We've said this multiple times, our manufacturing is modular and we have an ability to manage what lines we run in.

Draw down that inventory through demand.

And we think that sets us up well into the into 'twenty three.

And how we run it and we're really starting to see the benefit of that as we look out over the next couple of quarters, where we can bring a few lines down.

Okay, Okay, I'll keep it to two thanks guys.

Thanks, Tim.

Do the work to continue to expand recycle and then bring them up in relatively short order as we need it in and once again as we look at Boise and our additional capacity.

Our next question comes from Matthew Bouley.

Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions.

To the extent Youre speaking to production coming down.

That capacity is really critical as we look to continue to drive conversion in the market and future growth opportunities and as I mentioned, we've got a couple of quarters, where we're going to have lower volumes as we as we realign channel inventories, but we're going to start needing that capacity again as we move through the season next year.

I'm thinking about kind of the last year.

Do we have a situation kind of the opposite of the difficulty you had in the past year.

Increasing your mix of recycled materials when demand and production was so high.

Got you and just one really quick one for Pete if I heard you correctly you plan to manage your production for cash and bring your inventory down for the next nine months or so so could that headwind from a underproduction kind of spillover into call. It <unk>, where youre decrementals might be a little more elevated I know, it's going to take two quarters flush out.

As we look out in this scenario is this a case, where you could perhaps more meaningfully.

Increase the mix of recycled materials.

Yes, thanks for the question and I'll take it at a high level I think youre looking at in absolutely the right way the challenge we've had over the last year.

And really the last 18 months is we've had to use all of our capacity to meet demand.

On the inventory the channel side, but just kind of combing all of this for us as it relates to your inventory as well as theyre going to be like a <unk> hangover effect.

And as we now have slack capacity, it's giving us an opportunity to more aggressively drive conversion and PVC in particular.

Yes, let.

Let me make one quick comment.

I will let Pete answer it remember, we're laying out some of the <unk>.

Now have supply we've got the capability and machine time to be able to do the work necessary to increase recycle and and so it puts us in a ah.

Tailwind that that we've seen just face between recycle price raws et cetera.

And.

Those will benefit us as we look moving forward. So I'm sorry, Pete go ahead, yes I was.

A really good position to meet.

At least meet.

The goals that we talked about and get creative on ways. We can we can continue to increase the recycled.

Hey, I guess, we're not here to give 'twenty three guidance, but Jesse point look we feel pretty comfortable.

As we articulated in the Investor day that kind of don't carryover is really will help us buffer some of that lost leverage if you want to call. It that during the first half of the year.

Got it that's really helpful. Thank you for that Jessica and then just second one back to the channel inventories I think I heard you say Pete.

The December quarter.

Okay got it thanks, a lot guys I appreciate it.

Potential reduction of between zero and $35 million, if I heard that correctly.

Yeah.

And our next question comes from.

In your view is that is that kind of a last a bit or do these channel reductions, perhaps continue into the March quarter, and maybe just kind of layer on your views of that.

And now Carrie.

Your line is open.

Thank you good morning, everyone.

My first question.

Little Crystal ball, but to the extent your views on sell through kind of how that's going to play out through the couple of quarters here. Thank you yeah I'll take it at a high level in pekin to.

<unk>.

The pricing, obviously, you've seen considerable increases over the last two years or so.

You think about the cost of lumber coming down and moving closer to a normalized level. How are you thinking about the sustainability of the pricing that you've put through and is there any potential bleed that could happen, especially as deflation starts to come in on the cost side.

Dive into.

Bit of detail I think as we look at it we think it's prudent to.

To be proactive and have a conservative view on where channel inventories should be.

Yes.

As we've talked about in the past Diffley.

And as such.

Deflation in wood in general increases the affordability of our kinds of repair and remodel jobs and if you think about decking right decking and rail and accessories in particular as they sit on top of some kind of a structure.

We would hope that the bulk of any.

Re re sizing of inventory in the channel would be complete.

By the end of our first quarter.

And by the way when we're talking about channel, it's not just our distribution channel, it's making sure that our dealers.

And in general that structure is made of wood in decades, specifically is call it $20 to 25% depending on the product maybe a little higher.

Are in a good spot as they continue to look to manage their own cash so our intent and our hope would be.

We would be through the vast majority of it through the through.

Of the cost of the overall project and so as wood comes back in it.

Through the first quarter of this year.

Our next year I'm sorry.

It is helpful in that it increases the affordability of the kinds of construction jobs.

Our next question comes from fulfilling.

That were a part of and just relative to prices as we said in the past we feel really good about our value proposition.

Your line is open.

Guys.

<unk> be helpful kind of remind us I guess initial plan in terms of last year's incentives.

If you look back historically, we have been in a business that has increased price.

Capacity, you're targeting at a I forget if it was like a 70% 80% increase.

And incrementally never giving back price and so that's what the historical pattern would say, but we feel good about our value proposition and we feel good about the opportunity and then relative to wood.

Yes, yes, just at a very high level.

I think where you would maybe see that is more in the opening price point products and some of the transactional business that may have occurred in a lot of that is DIY and <unk>.

We had talked about completing 50% already in earlier quarters and that we were targeting a 100% increase.

As we.

A little over 100% increase from 2019 baseline, we're roughly in that 80% level right now.

As we mentioned, we skew across a broad category.

Including the more premium areas and in general.

And the.

The remaining capacity both in Boise that we need to add but also in Wilmington, we will have an ability to stage that.

We feel good about our position.

Okay. That's helpful color.

Obviously.

With the macro backdrop shifting over the last quarter. So can you just talk about how youre thinking of the cost structure of the business.

Remaining 20% appropriately.

So at a macro level. The way you should think of it is 80% give or take is deployed and we've got another 20% to 25%.

Any changes that youre, perhaps blocking for the macro environment that could cause you to make further adjustments to the cost structure.

That we can stage and bring online as needed.

Yes, just a couple of comments.

On the call were on the prepared remarks.

Either at the end of this year or earlier, if we needed or later, if we need it.

We talk about moderating demand and I think it's important to understand that when we're talking about moderating man.

Hey, sorry.

23.

Got it any feel for how much of that 80% is consumed at this point I mean, you've obviously seen quite strong growth last year.

We have had very very high growth rates and unit.

Unit growth rates.

Near double digits moderation means.

Yeah, We don't guide there, we're really happy with the 80% that we have I mean certainly.

We're still growing on a dollar basis in terms of actual end demand.

And the unit volumes are moderating off of really really.

Hi.

Three year stack relative to so as we look at that it's important to understand the dynamics that we see.

In the market relative to our cost structure, we've been prudent.

As Pete mentioned, we've taken appropriate cost actions and we've grown a lot we've grown our SG&A a lot over the last three years.

Base in and so if you just do the math, we needed flat capacity were bigger than we were and so we feel really good about the capacity we have online and just as a reminder, we have said this.

And there's opportunities that you get after when you.

We've said this multiple times, our manufacturing is modular and we have an ability to manage what lines we run in.

When youre seeing moderation and we are appropriately size the business at this point with the actions that we've taken.

And we think we've appropriately sized it to what we can see in 'twenty three if there was a different dynamic than what we see right now.

And how we run it and we're really starting to see the benefit of that as we look out over the next couple of quarters, where we can bring a few lines down.

We'd certainly take additional steps, but we are in a growth business, we want to make sure. We continue to invest in sales and marketing we.

Do the work to continue to expand recycle and then bring them up in relatively short order as we need it and once again as we look at Boise and our additional capacity.

We want to make sure that we continue to invest in new products and even with some of the changes. We've made recently were in a really good position to do that.

Okay I appreciate the color and good luck with everything.

I appreciate it thank you.

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Please limit your questions.

One to allow time for everyone.

And we have a question from John <unk>.

Your line is open.

Thank you good morning Jessy.

One question on recycling.

Talked about that's going to see a pretty nice step up next year is that we'll be able to think about the margin benefit in FY 'twenty three.

On the inventory the channel side, but just to kind of co mingle all of this for us as it relates to your inventory as well as theyre going to be like a two acute hangover effect.

Increased recycling.

Yes.

Let me make one quick comment.

And I'll, let Pete answer it.

Yes, I mean.

Remember, we're laying out some of the.

Here's what I would say if you look on the PVC side.

The tailwind that that we've seen just face between recycle price raws et cetera.

We talked at our Investor day.

We feel good about exiting this year.

And.

At or close to 60%.

Those will benefit us as we look moving forward. So I am sorry go ahead.

Recycle introduction rates.

For us as we've said in the pack on the PVC side, it's less about innovation and it's a lot more about continuous a permit and trial and error. So we would expect.

Yes, I was going to say I guess, we're not here to give 'twenty three guidance, but Jesse point look we feel pretty comfortable.

As we articulated in the Investor day, the kind of don't carryover is really will help us buffer some of that lost leverage if you want to call. It that during the first half of the year.

Consistently.

Strong impacts from PVC recycling next year, just like we've seen in the last two years.

Okay got it thanks, a lot guys I appreciate it.

And as it relates to the LD opportunity on the cap composite products.

Yeah.

And our next question comes from Susan.

We fully expect to be.

And now Gary.

Cutting over on some extrusion lines in the back half of 'twenty three.

Your line is open.

Thank you good morning, everyone.

My first question.

To recognize.

<unk>.

The benefits on the low density polyethylene.

The pricing, obviously, you've seen considerable increases over the last two years or so.

And if youre looking for specific numbers Keaton.

I think we did a pretty good job of laying out some of the staging and the opportunity in it.

In our analyst meeting or Investor meeting in June .

Given the opportunity we have.

Yes.

With with some additional slack capacity, we were certainly going to be.

As we've talked about in the past.

At or potentially above.

Some of those.

Opportunities on a on a sequential basis.

That we talked about.

Okay. That's helpful color. Thank you.

Our next question comes from John Lovallo.

And in general that structure is made of wood in decades, specifically is call it 20% to 25% depending on the product maybe a little higher.

Your line is open.

Good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one Jesse you gave some color on historical pricing in response to <unk> question I'm wondering those specifically in periods of excess channel inventory what has been the industry's response in terms of pricing.

Of the cost of the overall project and so as wood comes back in.

It is helpful in that it increases the affordability of the kinds of.

Struction jobs.

That were a part of and just relative to prices as we said in the past we feel really good about our value proposition.

Once again, we're not a.

We're not a transactional buy right in and it's really important people choose our products because they are the right product.

If you look back historically, we have been in a business that has increased price.

Four.

For the job and people choose it based on that now what you might see in general maybe at the dealer level.

And incrementally never given back price and so that's what the historical pattern would say, but we feel good about our value proposition and we feel good about the opportunity and then relative to wood I think where you would maybe see that is more in the opening price point products.

Or a retailer level is you might see some incremental promotional activity and in general Youre.

You rarely see a structural shift down in price, but you might see some promotional activity where.

And some of the transactional business that may have occurred in a lot of Thats DIY.

X Y Z company.

As we.

That sales to contractors might run a two or three week long promotion or.

As we mentioned, we skew across a broad category.

Including the more premium areas and in general.

Yes.

Or do a decking month for decking week or something like that just.

We feel good about our position.

To stimulate probably less demand, but to get people excited.

Okay. That's helpful color Mike.

Obviously with the macro backdrop shifting over the last quarter. So can you just talk about how youre thinking of the cost structure of the business.

And that typically occurs during the season and that occurs in general because theres always look inventory in general is always out of balance.

Any changes that youre, perhaps blocking for the macro environment that could cause you to make further adjustments to the cost structure.

And along the way people are trying to make sure that it flows.

Yes, just a couple of comments I think on the call. We are on the prepared remarks.

I would say that structurally we havent seen anything systemic.

Nor would we expect to because demand is demand you just want to capture your fair share of it.

We talk about moderating demand in it I think it's important to understand that when we're talking about moderating man.

Got you that's helpful. And then the second question is understanding that M&A is a part of the growth story here is there a risk that you guys are shifting too much focus away from the core decking business in other words, I mean should we be concerned that composite decking conversion could slow.

We have had very very high growth rates and unit.

Unit growth rates.

Near double digits moderation means.

Still growing on a dollar basis in terms of actual end demand.

And the unit volumes are moderating off of really really.

And acquisition growth is becoming more important.

Yes, you should.

Hi.

Three year stack relative to so as we look at that it's important to understand the dynamics that we see.

I think of all aspects you shouldnt be concerned that this management team is not focused on the core.

In the market relative to our cost structure, we've been prudent.

I think fundamentally we've all been of companies were.

As Steve mentioned, we've taken appropriate cost actions and we've grown a lot we've grown our SG&A a lot over the last three years.

At times, they have lost a focus on on what what really drives the business as you point out decking.

Obviously drives the business, but if you if you think about outdoor living and decking itself. There are components that layer on top of decking and then similarly exteriors right. So structure was a natural additive component in tax.

And there's opportunities that you get after when you.

When youre seeing moderation and we are appropriately size the business at this point with the actions that we've taken.

And we think we've appropriately sized it.

Is sold in general with our products.

What we can see in 'twenty three if there was a different dynamic than what we see right now.

Now right. It is at the when you look at the website.

When you see the products in displays in the northeast.

We'd certainly take additional steps, but we are in a growth business, we want to make sure. We continue to invest in sales and marketing we want to make sure that we continue to invest in new products and even with some of the changes. We've made recently were in a really good position to do that.

And the areas that they are strong and they.

They are layered right on top of our products right and it is part of the solution that a contractor cells.

A consumer and so we think the acquisitions that we're doing.

Okay I appreciate the color and good luck with everything.

Are all part of our core thesis and strengthens the opportunity we have in decades.

I appreciate it thank you.

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Understood. Thank you.

I appreciate it thanks.

Okay.

Please limit your questions.

We have a question from Michael Rehaut.

One to allow time for everyone.

Your line is open.

And we have a question from ton Montara.

Yeah, Hi, Thanks, good morning, everyone.

Just going back to some of the comments around.

Your line is open.

Thank you good morning Jessy.

Adjusting for inventory replenishment and inventory the inventory channel reduction this quarter, if you take out the $30 million from last year in the in your fiscal second quarter and getting to a residential growth of around 33%.

One question on recycling.

Talked about that's going to see a pretty nice step up next year is there to be able to think about the margin benefit in FY 'twenty three.

From increased recycling.

Also if you take out this current quarter you take out the $30 million from a year ago, and then add back $90 million this year.

Yes, I mean.

Here's what I would say, it's look on the PVC side.

You're actually getting the growth.

We talked at our Investor day.

<unk> 30 to low <unk>.

We feel good about exiting this year.

Which would suggest.

Just the end market remaining.

At or close to 60%.

Fairly strong in <unk>.

Recycle introduction rates.

Secondly, not falling off to any degree.

For us as we've said on the on the pack on the PVC side, it's less about innovation and it's a lot more about continuous a permit and trial and error. So we would expect.

Just wanted to make sure. This is the right way to think about it if there are other considerations here because obviously.

Across broader building products.

Some are moderating in the end market from Orange.

Consistently.

Strong impact on PVC recycling next year, just like we've seen in the last two years.

But just wanted to make sure thats the right way to think about that and also.

And as it relates to the LD opportunity on the capped composite products.

We are about.

End markets being up on dollars, but down on volume.

Matt, maybe which seem to be a little bit in contrast to that statement.

We fully expect to be.

Cutting over on some extrusion lines in the back half of 'twenty three.

Yes, Mike this is Peter.

Im going to give you a little bit of a framework for the full year 'twenty two kind of sales elements.

To recognize.

The benefits on the low density polyethylene.

Yes, if you dissect the.

The growth percent M&A is approximately 5% for the year.

And if youre looking for specific numbers Keaton.

I think we did a pretty good job of laying out some of the staging and the opportunity in it.

Price given off of what we've kind of said publicly is kind of more like high teens.

In our analyst meeting or Investor meeting in June .

This inventory calibration is about a 10% headwind right the $120 million net.

Given the opportunity we have.

<unk> is about 10%.

With with some additional slack capacity, we were certainly going to be.

Which means volume is about flat to up two points.

At or potentially above.

We see the full year.

Some of those.

Opportunities on a on a sequential basis.

Okay.

That's helpful.

That we talked about.

Yes.

Secondly, I'd love to delve in a little bit to the <unk> acquisition.

Okay. That's helpful color. Thank you.

Interesting.

Our next question comes from John Lovallo.

Seems like it's a relatively small acquisition from a dollar standpoint or revenue standpoint.

Your line is open.

But also.

On the surface it seems like.

In the areas of trim.

And even though our hurdles.

On a basic level. It seems like these are all product categories that you have.

Larger businesses.

Once again, we're not a.

And kind of you are already in that space.

We're not a transactional by right and it's really important people choose our products because they are the right product.

I was just curious about the thoughts around acquiring impacts versus.

Growing organically and trying to take share.

Four.

For the job and people choose it based on that now what you might see in general maybe at the dealer level.

With your own business.

Its impact has maybe a specific.

Higher end product that need as you might have alluded to that.

Or a retailer level is you might see some incremental promotional activity and in general Youre.

Within our portfolio.

Just kind of walk us through.

Why to buy this as opposed to if.

You rarely see a structural shift down in price, but you might see some promotional activity where.

If you're already in a lot of these product categories just to take market share.

X Y Z company.

Yes.

I think you highlighted.

That sales to contractors might run a two or three week long promotion or.

It a bit in your your question I think fundamentally the <unk> business is a great.

Yes.

Or do a decking month for decking week or something like that just.

Niche business that has developed a great product.

To stimulate probably less demand, but to get people excited.

That yes in theory, we could develop.

And that typically occurs during the season and.

That occurs in general because Theres always look inventory in general is always out of balance.

And along the way people are trying to make sure that it flows.

And add to that it's a nice brand name that has established a really good position and it's a terrific team right and they have great capabilities. So if you step back and you look at an acquisition.

I would say that structurally we haven't seen anything systemic.

Nor would we expect to because demand is demand you just want to capture your fair share of it.

At some level you are always doing a make versus buy on everything same with recycle same with the other components. We have acquired but we're really excited about the team we're excited about.

Aggressive stance in.

Growing the market. We're excited about the capability. We're excited about the brand we're excited about.

And acquisition growth is becoming more important.

Really what they bring to the portfolio and those elements really set us up to continue to aggressively.

Yes, you should.

I think of all aspects you shouldnt be concerned that this management team is not focused on the core.

Drive our portfolio on our solutions in the market and what we bring to it obviously as broader geographic scale, we bring capital.

I think fundamentally we've all been of companies were.

At times, they have lost a focus on on what what really drives the business as you point out decking.

We bring certain knowhow.

And.

It really gives us.

We bring capability to them to help them accelerate their business and so it's a really nice synergy.

And it really fits and how we look at the world in terms of strengthening the core or moving into modest adjacencies.

This does a really good job of supporting that.

Is sold in general with our products.

Alright, and just maybe a follow up on that.

Now right. It is at the when you look at the website.

The post synergies is this acquisition Mark.

When you see the products in displays in the northeast.

And the areas that they are strong and they are layered right on top of our products right and it is part of the solution that a contractor cells.

Margin neutral or accretive and also actually going back to the.

Structure acts.

When will that be expected to be margin neutral or accretive.

To a consumer and so we think the acquisitions that we're doing.

Are all part of our core thesis and strengthens the opportunity we have in decades.

Yes, yes, I think.

Go ahead, sorry, yes so.

Let's take the structure.

Understood. Thank you.

Question for sure so look we.

I appreciate it thanks.

Okay.

Literally expanded.

We have a question from Michael Rehaut.

Margins on the bottom line about 1000 basis points sequentially from <unk> to <unk>.

Your line is open.

Yeah, Hi, Thanks, good morning, everyone.

Which was in line or actually a little bit ahead of our own internal expectations.

Just going back to some of the comments around.

We would expect.

Adjusting for inventory replenishment and inventory the inventory channel reduction this quarter, if you take out the $30 million from last year in the in your fiscal second quarter.

That business to be at or very close to.

Zach profile I would say in the first and second quarter of.

'twenty, three which again is probably a little bit ahead of schedule.

We're getting to a residential growth of around 33%.

I would describe and texts as kind of a similar profile right. It's a high growth business.

Also if you take out 30 for this current quarter you take out the $30 million from a year ago, and then add back $90 million this year.

Sort of mid teens EBIT.

EBITDA cash.

And we feel like with our channel on with that.

You're actually getting the growth of low 30 to low <unk>.

More obvious synergies on the cost side.

That we can get that business fairly quickly too.

Which would suggest the end market remaining.

Zach levels within a pretty short period of time.

Fairly strong in <unk>.

<unk> not falling off to any degree.

Yes, and in Tech users.

Theyre based material.

Just wanted to make sure. This is the right way to think about it if there are other considerations here because obviously.

As in many of their products as PVC and clearly.

Cross broader building products.

We are a meaningful PVC player with capability to do recycle in a unique way compared to anybody else.

Some are moderating in the end market from Orange.

But just wanted to make sure thats the right way to think about that and also earlier about.

And so obviously those are.

Benefits that that fit very nicely within Texas.

End markets being up on dollars, but down on volume.

Great. Thank you.

Matt maybe would seem to be a little bit in contrast to that statement.

Thanks.

We have a question from Ryan Merkel.

Yes, Mike this is Peter.

Your line is open.

I'm going to give you a little bit of a framework for the full year 'twenty two kind of sales elements.

Hey, everyone just back to the destock, if I could it sounds like $150 million net destock over the next two quarters why is that the right number what was the framework that you used.

Yes, if you dissect.

The growth percent M&A is approximately 5% for the year.

Price given off of what we've kind of said publicly is kind of more like high teens.

Yeah.

Yes.

Let me Pete I'll start at a high level just as a as a reminder, on a monthly basis.

This inventory calibration is about a 10% headwind right the $120 million net.

Is about 10%.

We see our distributors' inventory and we see their days on hand, and we see the change in their days on hand, and we're able.

Which means volume is about flat to up two points is kind of how we see the full year.

Okay.

To run that against various scenarios and and calculations.

That's helpful.

I guess.

Secondly, I'd love to delve in a little bit to the <unk> acquisition.

In a moment is going to kind of get into what the right number is on that on.

I found it interesting it seems like it's a relatively small acquisition from a dollar standpoint or revenue standpoint, but also on the surface. It seems like.

On the 150 <unk> kind of <unk>.

Correct that or we gave you that but just at a high level understand that we get the data and then we work with our channel.

Areas of trim.

And even <unk>.

One on evaluating what they have in stock.

On a basic level. It seems like these are all product categories that you have.

What they would like to have in stock what days on hand, they would like.

And what we're effectively saying is as we look out over the next couple of quarters.

Larger businesses.

And kind of you are already in that space.

We would assume that they're going to be.

I was just curious about the thoughts around acquiring impacts.

At the lower end of <unk>.

We are below historical days on hand.

Versus.

Growing organically and trying to take share.

And we can see the inventories that they have in stock and we draw some assumptions relative to how it sells through so it's really that calculation and working with our channel and then we draw that's for our distributors and at our dealer level.

With your own business.

Its impact has maybe a specific.

Higher end product that need as you might have alluded to that.

<unk> in our portfolio.

Just kind of walk us through.

We worked directly with our dealers and.

Why to buy this as opposed to if.

And that particular drawdown I think is going to be much much more pronounced this quarter as as they bought product for the season, they have product and we're going to work with them on on drawing that down.

If you're already in a lot of these product categories just to take market share.

Yes.

I think you highlighted.

It a bit in your your question I think fundamentally the <unk> business is a great.

They look to turn that product into cash in and so the methodology is a dialogue.

Niche business that has developed a great product.

Historical data that tends to be delayed by.

30 to 45 days.

That yes in theory, we could develop but.

And then working on that process with our channel partners and then Pete you can kind of get to the $1 50 number that Brian just mentioned yeah. So the way to think about it Ryan is look we built inventory in <unk> 21 of about $30 million and we built inventory again in the fourth quarter of 'twenty one of about 30.

But they've done a really good job of.

Building out a part of the portfolio that we do not yet plan.

And add to that it's a nice brand name that has established a really good position and it's a terrific team right and they have great capabilities. So if you step back and you look at an acquisition.

That's the $60 million, we had talked about on our last call that we would be lapping.

At some level you are always doing a make versus buy on on everything same with recycle same with the other components. We have acquired but we're really excited about the team we're excited about.

Built an additional $30 million in <unk> and 'twenty two and then we are drawing down inventory within the fourth quarter of $90 million.

So on a full year basis, it's actually ordered $20 million of inventory.

<unk> aggressive stance in.

Growing the market. We're excited about the capability. We're excited about the brand we're excited about.

Packed.

Got it plus the 30 that you're expecting in <unk> 'twenty three.

Really what they bring to the portfolio and those elements really set us up to continue to aggressively.

Correct, yes.

Okay.

Yes, Jeff you sort of answered the question there the final one would be.

Drive our portfolio and our solutions in the market and what we bring to it obviously as broader geographic scale, we bring capital.

Is the inventory thats coming out is it safety stock.

Because lead times, a normalized or is it more that you're making adjustment based on lower demand that you expect over the next two to three quarters to be conservative.

We bring certain knowhow.

And.

It really gives us.

We bring capability to them to help them accelerate their business and so it's a really nice synergy.

No I would say, it's very much the former.

They've got product and they can run at.

And it really fits and how we look at the world in terms of strengthening the core or moving into modest adjacencies.

They can run at lower days on hand, and we have moved from.

Allocation to extended lead times to now we sit.

This does a really good job of supporting that.

And just maybe a follow up on that.

Where we sit today, we're at very normalized lead times right. So think about that.

The post synergies is this acquisition Mark.

Think about going from effectively a 12 week lead time.

The less than four weeks.

Margin neutral or accretive and also actually going back to the.

And so the channel rightfully so can carry a little less inventory and still have an opportunity to.

Structural <unk>.

When would that be expected to be margin neutral or accretive.

To more than meet demand.

Got it okay. Thank you.

Yes, yes, I think.

Okay.

Go ahead, Pete sorry, yes. So.

We have reached the time allotted for question and answer session I will now turn the call back over to our house.

Let's take the structure.

Question for sure so look.

Yes, Thanks again for joining us. This morning, we really appreciate your engagement and we look forward to our continued focus on the terrific opportunity in front of US we're as excited as ever.

Literally expanded.

Margins on the bottom line about 1000 basis points sequentially from <unk> to <unk>.

Which was in line or actually a little bit ahead of our <unk>.

Own internal expectations.

We would expect.

About the ability to continue to drive conversion and growth in the marketplace.

That business to be at or very close to.

Zach profile I would say in the first and second quarter of.

We look forward to following up as needed.

On more specific phone calls so thanks, again, and we'll chat with you next quarter.

'twenty, three which again is probably a little bit ahead of schedule.

I would describe in Texas kind of a similar profile right, it's a high growth business.

That concludes today's conference.

Thank you for attending and have a pleasant day.

Sort of mid teens EBIT.

<unk> and.

We feel like with our channel on with.

More obvious synergies on the cost side.

The host has ended this call goodbye.

That we can get that business fairly quickly too.

Zach levels within a pretty short period of time.

Yes, and in Tech users.

Theyre based material.

As in many of their products as PVC and clearly.

We are a meaningful PVC player with capability to do recycle in a unique way compared to anybody else.

And so obviously those are benefits that that fit very nicely with the text.

Great. Thank you.

Thanks.

We have a question from Ryan Merkel.

Your line is open.

Hey, everyone just back to the destock, if I could it sounds like $150 million net destock over the next two quarters why is that the right number what was the framework that you used.

Yes.

Let me Pete I'll start at a high level just because.

As a reminder, on a monthly basis.

We see our distributors' inventory and we see their days on hand, and we see the change in their days on hand, and we're able.

To run that against various scenarios and and calculations.

And Pete in a moment is going to kind of get into what the right number is on the on.

On the 150 <unk> kind of <unk>.

Correct that or we'll give you that but just at a high level understand that we get the data and then we work with our channel.

One on evaluating what they have in stock.

What they would like to have in stock what days on hand, they would like.

And what we're effectively saying is as we look out over the next couple of quarters.

We would assume that they're going to be.

At the lower end of.

Or below historical days on hand.

And.

We work directly with our dealers and.

Is a dialogue.

Historical data that tends to be delayed by.

30 to 45 days.

And then working on that process with our channel partners and then Pete you can kind of get to the $1 50 number that Brian just mentioned.

So the way to think about it Ryan is look we built inventory in <unk> 21 of about $30 million and we built inventory again in the fourth quarter of 'twenty one of about $30 million. That's the $60 billion. We had talked about on our last call that we would be lapping.

<unk> built an additional $30 million in <unk> and 'twenty two and then we are drawing down inventory within the fourth quarter of $90 million.

So on a full year basis, it's actually at $20 million of inventory.

<unk>.

Got it plus the 30 that youre expecting in <unk> 'twenty three yes, correct, yes.

Okay.

Yes, Jesse you sort of answered the question there the final one would be.

Is the inventory thats coming out is it safety stock.

Because lead times, a normalized or is it more that you're making adjustment based on lower demand that you expect over the next two to three quarters to be conservative.

No I would say, it's very much the former.

They've got product and they can run it.

They can run at lower days on hand, and we have moved from <unk>.

Allocation to extended lead times to now we sit.

Where we sit today, we're at very normalized lead times right. So think about think about going from effectively a 12 week lead time to less than four weeks.

And so the channel rightfully so can carry a little less inventory and still have an opportunity to.

To more than meet demand.

Got it okay. Thank you.

Okay.

We have reached the time allotted for question and answer session I will now turn the call back over to our house.

Yes, Thanks again for joining us. This morning, we really appreciate your engagement and we look forward to our continued focus on the terrific opportunity in front of US we're as excited as ever.

About the ability to continue to drive conversion and growth in the marketplace and we look forward to following up as needed.

On more specific phone calls so thanks, again, and we'll chat with you next quarter.

That concludes today's conference.

Thank you for attending and have a pleasant day.

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