Q2 2022 Exelixis Inc Earnings Call

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the X all access second quarter 2022 financial results Conference call. My name is Sarah and I'll be your operator for today.

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Exelixis second quarter 2022 financial results conference call.

My name is Sarah and I'll be your operator for today.

As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes, I would now like to turn the call over to your host for today.

MS. Susan Hubbard Executive Vice President of Public Affairs, and Investor Relations. Please proceed.

As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes.

Thank you Sarah and thank you all for joining us for the <unk> second quarter 2022 financial results Conference call.

Joining me on today's call are Mike Morrissey, our president and CEO , Chris Senner, Our Chief Financial Officer P. J Haley, our executive Vice President of commercial sticky Goodman, our Chief Medical Officer, and Peter Lamb, Our Chief Scientific Officer, who will together review our progress through the second quarter 2022 ended June 30th 2022.

During the call today, we will refer to financial measures not calculated according to generally accepting accounting principles. Please refer to today's press release, which is posted on our website for an explanation of our reasons for using such non-GAAP measures as well as tables deriving these measures from our GAAP results. During the course of this presentation, we will be making forward.

Looking statements regarding future events and the future performance of the company. This includes statements about possible developments regarding discovery product development.

Regulatory commercial financial and strategic matters actual events or results could of course differ materially. We refer you to the documents we file from time to time with the SEC, which under the heading risk factors identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed by the company verbally and in writing today.

Including without limitation risks and uncertainties related to product commercial success market competition regulatory review and approval processes conducting clinical trials compliance with applicable regulatory requirements, our dependence on collaboration partners and the level of costs associated with discovery product development business development.

And commercialization activities.

That I will turn the call over to Mike Alright, Thank you Susan and thanks to everyone for joining us on the call today <unk> had a strong second quarter 2022 across all components of our business. We saw continued growth of our Cabozantinib franchise, both in the U S and globally, while advancing a diversified pipeline of clinical and.

I would now like to turn the call over to your host for today, Ms. Susan Hubbard, Executive Vice President of Public Affairs and Investor Relations.

Please proceed.

Discovery programs to build the <unk> product portfolio of the future.

Key highlights from Q2 include first.

The strong performance of the Cabozantinib business with significant growth in demand and revenue in the U S.

<unk> maintained its status.

Teekay AI for RCC and <unk>.

<unk> franchise grew 22% year over year compared to two Q2 thousand 21, marking its seventh consecutive quarter of growth.

Importantly, global Cabozantinib franchise net product revenues generated by <unk> and its partners were almost $500 million in Q2 2022.

Second our emerging by custom development team is focused on advancing the <unk> development pipeline to potential new Cabo indications and our growing pipeline of clinical compounds, including <unk> XP, <unk>, XR, <unk> and <unk> four or developments during the quarter include posit.

Topline results for cosmic 313, and the initiation of the pivotal trial program for <unk> <unk> two with stellar 303.

Third our discovery activities focused both on small molecule and biologic programs continues to advance with two new collaborations to support our biologics discovery activities with that please see our press release issued an hour ago for our second quarter financial results and an extensive list C Corp.

Thank you, Sarah, and thank you all for joining us for the Exelixis second quarter 2022 financial results conference call.

But milestones achieved in the quarter.

Now I'll turn the call over to Chris Thanks, Mike for the second quarter 2022. The company reported total revenues of approximately $419 million, which included Cabozantinib franchise net product revenues of $347 million.

Joining me on today's call are Mike Morrissey, our President and CEO, Chris Senner, our Chief Financial Officer, P.J.

Haley, our Executive Vice President of Commercial, Vicki Goodman, our Chief Medical Officer, and Peter Lamb, our Chief Scientific Officer, who will together review our progress for the second quarter 2022 and June 30, 2022.

<unk> net product revenues were $339 2 million and included approximately $17 million in clinical trial sales gross to net for the Cabozantinib franchise in the second quarter of 2022 was 28, 2%, which is lower than the growth that we experienced in the first quarter of 2022.

During the call today, we will refer to financial measures not calculated according to generally accepting accounting principles. Please refer to today's press release, which is posted on our website, for an explanation of our reasons for using such non-GAAP measures, as well as tables deriving these measures from our GAAP results.

During the course of this presentation, we will be making forward-looking statements regarding future events and the future performance of the company. This includes statements about possible developments regarding discovery, product development, regulatory, commercial, financial, and strategic matters. Actual events or results could, of course, differ materially. We refer you to the documents we file from time to time with the SEC, which, under the heading risk factors, identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed by the company verbally and in writing today, including, without limitation, risks and uncertainties related to product commercial success, market competition, regulatory review, and approval processes, conducting clinical trials, compliance with applicable regulatory requirements, our dependence on collaboration partners, and the level of costs associated with discovery, product development, business development, and commercialization activities.

This decrease in gross to net deductions in the second quarter of 2022 is primarily related to lower Medicare part D and co patient co pay assistant assistance expenses, our trade inventory weeks on hand remained relatively flat when compared to the first quarter 2022.

Now, with that, I will turn the call over to Mike.

All right, thank you, Susan, and thanks to everyone for joining us on the call today.

Total revenues also included approximately $72 million in collaboration revenues and includes approximately $26 million a milestone revenues earned from Ipsen.

Following the approval of the differentiated thyroid cancer indication in Europe and Canada.

Total operating expenses for the second quarter, 2022 were approximately $336 million compared to $273 million in first quarter 2022.

R&D expense was the primary driver of the increase in total operating expenses, which was primarily related to the $25 million upfront payment for the option and license agreement we entered into in June with bio invent international provision for income taxes for the second quarter 2022 was approximately $18 million compared to approximately $17 million for the first quarter.

2022.

The company reported GAAP net income of approximately $71 million of <unk> 22 per share on a fully diluted basis for the second quarter of 2022. The company also reported non-GAAP net income of approximately $90 million or 28 cents per share on a fully diluted basis.

non-GAAP net income excludes the impact of $19 million in stock based compensation expense net of the related income tax effect.

Cash and investments for the sector for the quarter ended June 32022 was approximately $2 billion.

This level of cash investments supported by our ongoing cash flow from operations provides excellent assist with the flexibility to invest in internal discovery activities.

It also allows us to pursue external business development opportunities to expand our pipeline.

And finally, we are reiterating our full year 2000, 22022 financial guidance, which is detailed on slide 12 of our earnings presentation.

With that I'll turn the call over to P. J.

Chris the second quarter of 2022 was a strong quarter for Cabozantinib as we continued to build on the significant momentum of the franchise.

Xellexis had a strong second quarter 2022 across all components of our business. We saw a continued growth of the Cabozantid franchise, both in the U.S. and globally, while advancing a diversified pipeline of clinical and discovery programs to build the Xellexis product portfolio of the future. Key highlights from Q2 include, first, we saw a strong performance of the Cabozantid business with significant growth in demand and revenue in the U.S.

CaboMedix maintained its status as the leading TKI for RCC. The Cabo franchise grew 22% year-over-year compared to 2Q 2021, marking its seventh consecutive quarter of growth. Importantly, global Cabozantid franchise net product revenues generated by Xellexis and its partners were almost $500 million in Q2 2022.

The team continues to execute at a high level, which has resulted in Kabul medics continuing to be the number one prescribed <unk> in RCC.

Furthermore, <unk> total prescriptions or T. Rx have now grown for seven consecutive quarters.

Demand growth is being driven primarily by the long duration of therapy for patients on <unk> in combination with <unk> in the first line setting.

Prescription trends remain strong in Q2 2022.

Year over year T Rx growth in Q2 2022.

It's 29% relative to Q2 2021.

Given the clinical data from the Checkmate <unk> study, we anticipate these first line combination patients to receive therapy for approximately a year and a half on average thus driving a significantly longer treatment duration for <unk>.

We're encouraged by the fact that in our data, we see and you're doubling the amount of new patient starts with the 40 milligram dose in Q2 2022 since the Checkmate 90, our launch in January 2021.

As further indication that the combination uptake in the first line setting is robust.

Turning to the Tpa market basket of Cabo medics, and lighter Sutent Motrin and my Bema Cabo.

<unk> market share has increased every quarter since Q1 2021.

Sure in Q2 2022 was 37%.

As we've discussed previously the first line RCC market is very competitive and we are pleased with the performance of <unk> in combination with <unk> in this setting.

Furthermore, we are still not seeing any significant competitive impact on our market share.

Uptake in first line, it's broad across clinical risk groups and practice settings, and prescriber experience to date continues to be very positive.

We believe all of this taken together with the momentum in the business positions capo medics.

<unk> growth in the second half of 2022.

Turning to other settings, where please.

<unk> second line RCC business remained strong and was stable in Q2.

While growth continued in the first line setting.

In HCC, our business grew in Q2, and Cabo <unk> continues to be the most prescribed teekay I in the second line setting for patients treated with immunotherapy containing regimens in the first line.

With regards to second line DTC, we continue to be pleased with the launch in this indication continues to provide growth for the brand.

Looking beyond the six current U S indications for Cabozantinib, we're planning for the numerous lifecycle expansion opportunities as they begin to have top line data readouts in the second half of this year.

Look forward to having the opportunity pending data and approval to bring <unk> to many more patients in need of additional treatment options. Our team remains highly focused and motivated to compete every day to bring the benefit of <unk> to all eligible patients as we continue to build the franchise and serve patients and with that I'll turn the call over.

Second, our emerging bicoastal development team is focused on advancing the Xellexis development pipeline through potential new Cabo indications and our growing pipeline of clinical compounds, including XL092, XB002, XL102, and XL114. Developments during the quarter include positive top-line results for COSMIC-313 and the initiation of the pivotal trial program for XL092 with Stellar 303.

Vicky.

Third, our discovery activities, focused both on small molecule and biologic programs, continues to advance with two new collaborations to support our biologics discovery activities.

Thanks P J.

Good afternoon.

Today I will provide a brief update on the progress of our clinical stage pipeline as well as our east coast expansion in the greater Philadelphia region.

I'll begin with an update on our Cabozantinib Registrational trials in early July we reported positive top line results for Cosmic <unk> research arm evaluating cabozantinib in combination with Nikola Babin Epilemma map in intermediate and poor risk renal cell carcinoma.

And the primary analysis of progression free survival Cabozantinib in combination with Nikola Mabin, Linda map significantly reduced the risk of disease progression or death, compared with the combination of Nevada, Epilemma map with a hazard ratio of <unk> seven three and P value of 0.01.

A prespecified interim analysis for the secondary endpoint of overall survival did not demonstrate a significant benefit for the cabozantinib arm compared to the Ebola Madmen Epilemma map control arm and therefore, the trial will continue to the next analysis of overall survival.

The safety profile observed in the trial was reflective of the known safety profiles for each single agent as well as the combination regimen used in the study and no new safety signals were identified.

We intend to discuss the results with the FDA to determine next steps towards a potential regulatory submission.

I would now like to share a brief update on contact Oh one.

Phase III pivotal study evaluating cabozantinib in combination with the peso lizabeth versus docetaxel in patients with metastatic non small cell lung cancer, who have been previously treated with an immune checkpoint inhibitor and platinum containing chemotherapy.

The independent data monitoring committee for this study conducted a pre planned interim analysis and recommended that the study remains blinded and continue to the final analysis for overall survival, which is expected to occur before the end of 2022.

We are also expecting a readout of the progression free survival endpoint for contractors three of Cabozantinib in combination with the types of lithium mab in PD, one experienced renal cell carcinoma in the second half of this year.

For concept to our phase III study in combination with the Tesla lithium mab in metastatic castrate resistant prostate cancer. We are now projecting that enrollment will be completed in the first half of next year.

We continue to make progress on our clinics on our pipeline molecules.

In June we initiated the first phase three study of <unk> to our next generation tyrosine kinase inhibitor.

Non MSI high colorectal cancer.

It's below 19 was also being explored in combination with several checkpoint inhibitors in Io combinations and additional Registrational studies are planned.

We also continue to explore additional potential combination opportunities with novel agents and have made progress with several partners to bring novel combinations into the clinic.

X gene heroes here too, our first antibody drug conjugate, which targets tissue factor without interfering with the coagulation pathway in preclinical models continues in dose escalation.

Thus far it has been well tolerated with no bleeding events observed.

We expect to move into the multi cohort dose expansion phase later this year.

Dose escalation has also been initiated for the combination of that CLO two with Nikola map.

Our phase one study of XL, one O two our oral CDK <unk> inhibitor is expected to move into both single agent and combination expansion cohorts after completion of ongoing dose escalation and determination of the phase two data.

Turning now to our plans for upcoming data presentations and abstracts for the Cosmic 313 topline data has been submitted to a major medical conference and we are awaiting a decision from that conference about acceptance of that abstract.

In addition, an abstract for the XO 192 Phase one study was accepted for a poster at the upcoming European Society of medical oncology meeting.

The poster will include data from the monotherapy tens of living lab combination dose escalation cohorts and heavily pretreated solid tumors and will focus primarily on the safety and pharmacokinetics, which led to a recommended phase to get.

Preliminary activity across multiple doses and tumor types will also be presented.

We also expect to provide phase one clinical updates for cielo to an X L. One O. Two later this year.

Finally, with regard to our Philadelphia area campus, we expect to move this month into our intermediate term space in King of Prussia, which can hold approximately 140 office based employees.

Taking advantage of the broad talent base in the greater Philadelphia area. We are now hiring for roles both inside and outside of development, including two executive level roles to build out our leadership presence on both coasts.

We have also identified a long term build to suit space of over 200000 square feet of mixed office and lab space close to or intermediate term offices in king of Prussia.

I'm pleased by the progress we are making to create a bicoastal presence across two biotechnology hubs operating as one team focused on the singular mission of developing medicines to improve the lives of patients with cancer with that I'll turn it over to Peter for a discovery team.

With that, please see our press release issued an hour ago for our second quarter financial results and an extensive list of key corporate milestones achieved in the quarter.

I'll now turn the call over to Chris.

Thank you Viki I'll provide an update of developments in the <unk> preclinical pipeline.

Thanks, Mike.

We're building a broad pipeline derived from both internal and collaboration efforts with over 10 programs in progress, giving us the possibility of advancing up to five compounds into preclinical development in 2022.

With additional programs on track for 2023.

Late last year, we advanced XP 010, a novel ADC targeting <unk> four into preclinical development and we have now advanced our first bi specific <unk> zero, one for targeting PD lone in CD 47 into preclinical development as well.

Have you can see on the pipeline slide preclinical pipeline has a balanced mix of small molecules and bio therapeutics, which is reflective of how we see our clinical pipeline evolving in the future.

We are continuing to accelerate the expansion of our pipeline both through growing internal capabilities and through business development activities.

We have significant efforts on the business development front aimed at providing us access to novel targets capabilities and technologies that complement and accelerate our ongoing biotherapeutics in small molecule strategies.

We recently concluded two deals was exemplified this approach.

First we are pleased to have entered into a collaboration with bio <unk> to identify novel targets and antibody using their first platform.

<unk> has significant antibody discovery of immuno oncology expertise and their platform uses primary human tumor material as a starting point for parallel tumor specific target identification and antibody discovery.

Under the agreement, we can select three targets the license upon identification of development candidates against those targets.

At that point, we are responsible for all future development and a good bump the antibodies as standalone or use them to make adcs or bi specifics.

Yeah.

This is an investment in a longer term biotherapeutics platform and is aimed at allowing us to broaden the target space we were addressing.

We're continuing to look for additional partnerships that will add further biological novelty to our pipeline.

We've also recently announced a deal with ROI view for access to their proprietary Sting agonists, which we intend to use construct novel immuno stimulatory adcs, expanding our portfolio of payloads be onsite to toxics.

We believe that this provides an exciting opportunity for tumor targeted stimulation of innate immunity with potential for being combined with a variety of antitumor immune checkpoint therapies.

We are continuing to look for additional opportunities to expand our access to antibodies and payloads to support future pipeline growth.

Finally, we are actively assessing late preclinical and early clinical assets with the aim of identifying multiple opportunities to invest in.

So you're right for oncology drugs remain high and as such we currently preferred strategy, making small investments before clinical proof of concept rather than making more substantial investments based on inadequate or inconclusive data.

We look forward to providing additional updates on these BD discussions as they come to fruition.

I'll now turn the call back over to Mike Alright, Thanks, Peter as you heard on the call today. The exel team continued to execute across all components of our business in the second quarter with significant progress across our pipeline clinical development and commercial activities.

For the second quarter of 2022, the company reported total revenues of approximately $419 million, which included Cabo Zantider franchise net product revenues of $347 million.

Cabo Medix net product revenues were $339.2 million and included approximately $17 million in clinical trial sales.

Gross to net for the Cabo Zantider franchise in the second quarter of 2022 was 28.2%, which is lower than the gross to net we experienced in the first quarter of 2022. This decrease in gross to net deductions in the second quarter of 2022 is primarily related to lower Medicare Part D and copay assistance expenses.

As we enter the second half of 2022, we're excited about the potential for the multiple growth drivers ahead of us as we continue to move the business forward and most importantly enable <unk> to help many more cancer patients.

I'll close by thanking the <unk> team for their individual and collective efforts to support our broad range of discovery development and commercial activities. Both here in Alameda and in our growing <unk> East presence, we have the vision determination and resources to become a multi product enterprise and expand our <unk>.

Each to serve cancer patients across the globe, we look forward to updating you on our progress in the future. Thank you for your continued support and interest in <unk> and we're now happy to open the call for questions.

Our trade inventory weeks on hand remain relatively flat when compared to the first quarter of 2022.

Total revenues also included approximately $72 million in collaboration revenues and includes approximately $26 million of milestone revenues earned from Ipsen, following the approval of the differentiated thyroid cancer indication in Europe and Canada.

Our total operating expenses for the second quarter of 2022 were approximately $336 million compared to $273 million in first quarter of 2022. R&D expenses were the primary driver of the increase in total operating expenses, which was primarily related to the $25 million upfront payment for the option and license agreement we entered into in June with BioInvent International.

Provision for income taxes for the second quarter of 2022 was approximately $18 million compared to approximately $17 million for the first quarter of 2022. The company reported gap net income of approximately $71 million or $0.22 per share on a fully diluted basis for the second quarter of 2022.

Thank you.

The company also reported non-gap net income of approximately $90 million or $0.28 per share on a fully diluted basis. Non-gap net income excludes the impact of approximately $19 million of stock-based compensation expense net of the related income tax effect.

We will now begin the question and answer session.

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At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

Your first question comes from the line of our Speaker CUNA Award of me.

With truest. Please proceed.

Hello. This is a non scanner for off sticks out.

First of all congrats on the quarter just had some questions here on XL, one or two.

Are you guys still going to do the expansion cohorts in HR positive breast cancer and when can we expect enrollment to opening that SEC.

With respect to gross to net quarter over quarter Youre discounts were pretty flat while your gross product revenue grew how do you see that evolving in the second half is there anything different.

Your previous expectations.

A third way.

In the 10-Q I saw that Teva.

We have filed.

Amendment and Theyre going to are you guys are going to potentially file a suit against them would that be a separate sooner would have you rolled into the current suit against turbo.

Sure.

Yeah. Thanks for the questions why don't we start with Vicki on the first one Chris can take the second one and I'll answer the third one.

Sure so with respect to XL, one O two as.

As I mentioned, we're currently in the.

The dose escalation phase and once we reach a recommended phase two get us we'd be able to move on into dose expansion. So it will take some.

Some time to complete the escalation as well as evaluate that data our plans for dose expansion have not changed at this point.

Yes. Thanks, Mike. So this is Chris Senner, so from a gross to net perspective, no last quarter. So first quarter. This year. Most of that was 38%. We came down to 28, 2% this quarter and that was driven as I said, mostly.

Around Medicare part D and lower co pay assistance for our commercial patients.

As I said on the last quarter call, we're thinking that gross to net for the year is going to be in the 29% range.

As we as we see it today.

And in regards to your question around the Teva and <unk>.

Can't really provide more update today on that so thanks for the question.

Thank you so much.

Your next question comes from the line of Jason <unk> with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Cash and investments for the quarter ended June 30, 2022 was approximately $2 billion. This level of cash and investments, supported by our ongoing cash flow from operations, provides Exelixis with the flexibility to invest in internal discovery activities and also allows us to pursue external business development opportunities to expand our pipeline.

And finally, we are reiterating our full year 2022 financial guidance, which is detailed on slide 12 of our earnings presentation.

And with that, I'll turn the call over to PJ.

Oh, Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question and hopefully my.

Answer it could be a little more expounded upon in the last one but just.

There was an update that.

New patent in dispute.

As it pertains to your one of your formulation patents that hadn't been asserted earlier on in litigation and I'm. Just curious if that's in any way connected to there is a deficiency in the generic application regarding some impurities presumably around there.

X form of Cabozantinib.

And if you can't get into too. Many details just curious will that pattern operate under a separate litigation track than the other two tracks and just kind of curious how complex. The overall MSA litigation cases gotten.

Yes, Jason it's Mike.

Thank you, Chris.

Thanks for the question to all fair questions.

It's going to be able to say much more youre correct about the third.

Newest Orange book.

Edition and.

Paragraph four back and forth that's happening right now so we're working through all those details and as that becomes clarified it will show up in the public domain and you'll be able to see what's happening okay.

We'll provide more updates.

For the question.

Okay.

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Schmidt with Guggenheim. Please proceed.

The second quarter of 2022 was a strong quarter for Cabo Zantib as we continued to build on the significant momentum of the franchise. The team continues to execute at a high level, which has resulted in Cabo Medix continuing to be the number one prescribed TKI in RCC. Furthermore, Cabo Medix total prescriptions, or TRX, have now grown for seven consecutive quarters. Demand growth is being driven primarily by the long duration of therapy for patients on Cabo Medix in combination with Nivolumab in the first-line setting.

Guys. Thanks for taking my questions I had a few on that Cabot medics, maybe first if you could comment on.

Market dynamics in the first line RCC setting.

You know, where where does that growing T Rx share, whereas it's coming from are you still taking share from sutent predominantly or perhaps from some of the other combination that led.

<unk> is also growing at the moment. So I'm just curious how you see that.

Playing out longer term in first line RCC.

A question on Cosmic 313, we were just.

Wondering what the relevance of this.

OS analysis, just given that other.

Drops for example, the javelin a regimen data actually obtain approval adjust based on PFS without OS.

Now being stat Sig.

And then lastly on contact are one we're just curious what your expectation of how the control arm for forum here in lung cancer post checkpoint and chemo with RPM as canopy to perhaps irrelevant historic comp. Thanks, so much.

Prescription trends remain strong in Q2 2022. Year-over-year TRX growth in Q2 2022 was 29% relative to Q2 2021. Given the clinical data from the Checkmate 90-hour study, we anticipate these first-line combination patients to receive therapy for approximately a year and a half on average, thus driving a significantly longer treatment duration for carbometics.

Okay. Thanks, Michael why don't we start with P. J for the first question and then Vicky can follow up with the next two perfect. Thanks, Michael It's P J.

We're encouraged by the fact that in our data we see a near doubling of the amount of new patient starts at the 40 milligram dose in Q2 2022 since the Checkmate 90-hour launch in January 2021.

As you as you mentioned with regards to the market dynamics in first line RCC, We're certainly pleased.

With the growth we've seen as we talked about seven quarters in a row of prescription growth and Q2 this year.

Over Q2 last year T. Rx growth of 29% were certainly pleased with 6% quarter over quarter.

Further indication that the combination uptake in the first-line setting is robust.

Yeah.

So I think what what's happening in the marketplace is the data and the messages.

Resonating with physicians as I mentioned in the prepared remarks.

Physician.

<unk> continues to be to be positive.

Turning to the TKI market basket of carbometics in LIDA, SUDAN, Votrient, and Levima, CARBO TRX market share has increased every quarter since Q1 2021 and share in Q2 2022 was 37%.

As physicians get more experience with.

With Cabo medics in vivo in the first line setting.

Certainly our data and the messages of overall survive survival balanced with.

A good toxicity profile and quality of life really resonates there.

So we continue to take share from multiple Teekay is and.

I think we're really well positioned going forward to continue to take share as well as.

Continuing to get that growth as I mentioned in my prepared remarks from just the duration of therapy for those patients which were.

In the trial the PFS is in the ballpark of a year and a half. So I think we're benefiting from all of those dynamics.

Great. Thanks, PJ Vicky.

Yep So pleasant.

<unk> I think it's important to remember for this trial that we studied the triplet combination of tableau medics in combination with Novo imagine if the Linden lab versus.

Nikola Mebane, Epilemma Nab in corn intermediate risk patients, where <unk> already demonstrated a survival benefit right. So this is the first.

As we've discussed previously, the first-line RCC market is very competitive and we are pleased with the performance of carbometics in combination with nivolumab in this setting.

Furthermore, we're still not seeing any significant competitive impact on our market share. Uptake in the first line is broad across clinical risk groups and practice settings and prescriber experience to date continues to be very positive. We believe all of this taken together with the momentum in the business positions carbometics, for continued growth in the second half of 2022.

Turning to other settings, we are pleased that the carbometics second-line RCC business remains strong and was stable in Q2 while growth continued in the first-line setting.

<unk> phase III clinical trial to go up against a modern standard of care in renal cell carcinoma. So the primary end point here is is progression free survival and we've clearly demonstrated a benefit in PFS.

In HCC, our business grew in Q2 and carbometics continues to be the most prescribed TKI in the second-line setting for patients treated with immunotherapy containing regimens in the first line.

With regards to second-line DTC, we continue to be pleased with the launch and this indication continues to provide growth for the brand.

As you might imagine is immature the median OS with Nemo and it would be you know in this particular patient population is approximately four years, but we do expect some time for it to be some time before the data mature.

And with these data in hand, we do plan to approach.

The F D. A to have a conversation about a potential regulatory submission based on the progression free survival data.

Looking beyond the six current U.S. indications for cabozantinib, we are planning for the numerous, lifecycle expansion opportunities as they begin to have top-line data readouts in the second half of this year.

With respect to contact a one.

We look forward to having the opportunity pending data and approval to bring carbometics to many more patients in need of additional treatment options.

Our team remains highly focused and motivated to compete every day to bring the benefit of carbometics to all eligible patients as we continue to build the franchise and serve patients.

You know as you noted this is a patient population and non small cell lung cancer patients who have already received a checkpoint inhibitor and.

Platinum based chemotherapy. So they have relatively few therapeutic options and often receive single agent Taxane chemotherapy.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Vicki.

You know the expected survival in this setting is you know is less than a year.

<unk>.

For these patients and so they really are and it really is a need for additional treatment options that can improve upon that overall survival.

Thank you alright, thank you.

Okay, Operator, we'll take the next question when you're ready.

Thanks, PJ.

Good afternoon.

Your next question comes from the line of Andy Shay with William Blair. Please proceed.

Today, I will provide a brief update on the progress of our clinical stage pipeline as well as our east coast expansion in the greater Philadelphia region.

Great Yeah, congratulations on a stellar quarter from the Cubs.

I'll begin with an update on our cabozantinib registrational trial. In early July, we reported positive top-line results for COSMIC-313 evaluating cabozantinib, in combination with nivolumab and ipilimumab in intermediate and poor-risk renal cell carcinoma. In the primary analysis of progression pre-survival, cabozantinib in combination with nivolumab, and ipilimumab significantly reduced the risk of disease progression or death compared with the combination of nivolumab and ipilimumab with a hazard ratio of 0.73 and p-value of, 0.01.

A pre-specified interim analysis for the secondary endpoint of overall survival did not demonstrate, a significant benefit for the cabozantinib arm compared to the nivolumab and ipilimumab control arm, and therefore, the trial will continue to the next analysis of overall survival. The safety profile observed in the trial was reflective of the known safety profiles for, each single agent, as well as the combination regimens used in this study, and no new safety signals were identified.

Cabozantinib franchise.

Moving over 2 billion.

<unk> sales globally and also the <unk> win.

I have a question regarding the Senate Bill.

Curious if you have any thoughts regarding the short term impact from Medicare exposure and potentially longer term do you think about portfolio diversification.

Any sort of push and pull that you expect.

As you plan on expanding the pipeline.

The second question I have is for Peter.

I'm very curious about the bile and bad deal.

Just curious about from a drug development standpoint, what potential blind spots can you uncover by using primary tissues versus just kind of cell lines.

And I have a follow up.

We intend to discuss the results with the FDA to determine next steps towards a potential, regulatory submission.

Alright, well, Andy but thanks for the questions I'll take the first one Peter Kern wax poetic on second one I'm sure for as much time as we as we've got in terms of the.

I would now like to share a brief update on CONTACT-01, the Phase 3 pivotal study evaluating, cabozantinib in combination with the tezolizumab versus docetaxel in patients with metastatic non-small cell lung cancer who have been previously treated with an immune checkpoint inhibitor and platinum-containing chemotherapy. The independent data monitoring committee for the study conducted a pre-planned interim, analysis and recommended that the study remain blinded and continue to the final analysis for overall survival, which is expected to occur before the end of 2022.

We are also expecting a readout of the progression-free survival endpoint for CONTACT-03 of cabozantinib, in combination with the tezolizumab in PD-1-experienced renal cell carcinoma in the second half of this year.

For CONTACT-02, our Phase 3 study in combination with the tezolizumab in metastatic castrate-resistant, prostate cancer, we are now projecting that enrollment will be completed in the first half of next year.

We continue to make progress on our pipeline molecules. In June, we initiated the first Phase 3 study of XL092, our next-generation tyrosine kinase, inhibitor in non-MSI-high colorectal cancer. XL092 is also being explored in combination with several checkpoint inhibitors and I-O, combinations and additional registrational studies are planned.

We also continue to explore additional potential combination opportunities with novel agents, and have made progress with several partners to bring novel combinations into the clinic. XB002, our first antibody drug conjugate, which targets tissue factor without interfering, with the coagulation pathway in preclinical models, continues in dose escalation. Thus far, it has been well-tolerated with no bleeding events observed.

We expect to move into the multi-cohort dose expansion phase later this year. Dose escalation has also been initiated for the combination of XB002 with nivolumab.

Inflation reduction act and the drug pricing part of that again it's.

A Phase 1 study of XL102, our oral CDK7 inhibitor, is expected to move into both single-agent, and combination expansion cohorts after completion of ongoing dose escalation and determination of a Phase 2 dose.

It's been a pretty interesting weekend to watch all the pushes and pulls and certainly it will get.

Turning now to our plans for upcoming data presentations.

I think signed by the end of next week is the I think the timeline.

An abstract for the COSMIC-313 top-line data has been submitted to a major medical conference, and we are awaiting a decision from that conference about acceptance of that abstract.

You know at a high level, let me let me say the following we are doing a lot of work, it's pretty complicated there's about 200 pages of drug pricing info in 800 page Bill. So we're doing a lot of math right now to be able to understand things both quantitatively and temporarily so I think we'll have more probably more data.

In addition, an abstract for the X0092 Phase 1 study was accepted for a poster at the upcoming, European Society of Medical Oncology meeting. The poster will include data from the monotherapy and atezolizumab combination dose escalation, cohorts in heavily pretreated solid tumors and will focus primarily on the safety and pharmacokinetics which led to a recommended Phase 2 dose. Preliminary activity across multiple doses and tumor types will also be presented.

We also expect to provide Phase 1 clinical updates for X002 and XL102 later this year.

Finally, with regard to our Philadelphia area campus, we expect to move this month into, our intermediate term space in King of Prussia which can hold approximately 140 office-based employees.

Taking advantage of the broad talent base in the greater Philadelphia area, we are now, hiring for roles both inside and outside of development including to executive-level roles to build out a leadership presence on both coasts. We have also identified a long-term built-to-suit space of over 200,000 square feet of mixed, office and lab space close to our intermediate term offices in King of Prussia.

I'm pleased by the progress we are making to create a bi-coastal presence across two, biotechnology hubs operating as one team focused on the singular mission of developing medicines to improve the lives of patients with cancer.

Few weeks in terms of how that looks I would say at a high level.

It really doesn't impact us that much as the company as we are today.

<unk> fall into that.

Small company, if you will quote unquote category with a single product.

In terms of the criteria that are outlined in the draft towards it and bill. So so we don't anticipate much impact on our business, but as you said I think very eloquently, we aspire to do more and have more and be more as we go forward be a multi product company covering both small molecules and biologics and that diversity.

<unk> modality, certainly plays well with the with the proposed wording of the bill as well as just in terms of being able to help more patients.

Certainly in the longer term there might be issues. We think we can navigate all of those issues as we go forward, but we're certainly pleased to be able to see.

At least in terms of short mid term impact to be minimal probably at best.

With that, I'll turn it over to Peter for a discovery update.

Peter.

Thank you, Vicky.

Yes, hi, Andy Thanks for the question on bio events, but certainly very happy to have done that <unk> done that deal in two correctly pointed out.

Starting point for the target I'd and validation efforts. These primary human tumor material. So I think it has a number of key advantages versus.

Certainly cell lines, but even animal models.

It is the most relevant.

Tissue that you can get people thinking ultimately I'm trying to treat cancer patients.

So you know you will starting from a point of some relevance, especially if you can look across multiple samples, which which they can do.

Secondly, this is super important of course in the biopsies starting from and the two material is starting from it's not just cancer cells right.

You are looking at the true tumor microenvironment, including stromal cells and also crucially immune cells of various different different subtypes. So all those are in there in terms of target expression of course.

I'll provide an update of developments in the XLX's preclinical pipeline. We are building a broad pipeline derived from both internal and collaboration efforts with, over 10 programs in progress, giving us the possibility of advancing up to five compounds into preclinical development in 2022 with additional programs on track for 2023. Late last year, we advanced XB010, a novel ADC targeting 5T4 into preclinical development, and we have now advanced our first bispecific, XB014, targeting PDL1 and CD47 into preclinical development as well.

As you can see on the pipeline slide, the preclinical pipeline is a balanced mix of, small molecules and biotherapeutics, which is reflective of how we see our clinical pipeline evolving in the future.

We are continuing to accelerate the expansion of our pipeline, both through growing internal, capabilities and through business development activities.

We have significant efforts on the business development front aimed at providing us access, to novel targets, capabilities, and technologies that complement and accelerate our ongoing biotherapeutics and small molecule strategies. We recently concluded two deals that exemplify this approach.

Regulation target expression can often be very complicated can depend on the local growth factors cytokines mill. You. For example, often when you take things out of their normal in vivo setting and try and culture of them you lose all of that.

So it's really I think very strong to be able to start from that primary material.

The second aspect of the collaboration that we found compelling was.

The way that they look for targets is really is the same as the way you get antibody so they basically.

And the human tumor material with their in house antibody library and move towards six and then there's a big.

The convolution process, which determines what cell types or is it sticking to is it just something that's expressed on.

A lot of normal tissue. So what do you see the processors looks of things, which are specifically operated in human tumor tissue.

First, we are pleased to have entered into a collaboration with BioInvent to identify, novel targets and antibodies using their first platform. BioInvent has significant antibody discovery and immune oncology expertise, and their platform, uses primary human tumor material as a starting point for parallel tumor-specific target identification and antibody discovery. Under the agreement, we can select three targets to license upon identification of development candidates against those targets.

And then since you have an antibody you can then ask does it do anything functionally does it kill the tumor cells and activate immune cells. For example, so I think those two components together make it a very powerful platform and we're excited to be working with them.

At that point, we're responsible for all future development and could advance the antibodies as stand-alone or use them to make ADCs or bispecifics.

This is an investment in our longer-term biotherapeutics platform and is aimed at allowing us to broaden the target space we are addressing.

Great Thanks for that.

We're continuing to look for additional partnerships that will add further biological novelty to our pipeline.

We've also recently announced a deal with Ryeview for access to their proprietary Sting agonists, which we intend to use to construct novel immunostimulatory ADCs, expanding our portfolio of payloads beyond cytotoxics. We believe that this provides an exciting opportunity for tumor-targeted stimulation of innate immunity with potential for being combined with a variety of antitumor and immune checkpoint therapies.

We're continuing to look for additional opportunities to expand our access to antibodies and payloads to support future pipeline growth.

I do I do so.

This might not be as kind of a good fair question as a catch all there's a lot of kind of a.

Political belden going on across the oncology field fresco too and in CRC Theres been some news about RCC adjuvant.

<unk> HCC.

<unk> HCC lend bema combination I'm just curious if you can kind of opine on all the recent developments in the oncology space and how that could change maybe your confidence level in strategic position for <unk>.

Finally, we're actively assessing late preclinical and early clinical assets with the aim of identifying multiple opportunities to invest in.

Failure rates for oncology drugs remain high, and as such, we currently prefer a strategy of making multiple full investments before clinical proof of concept, rather than making more substantial investments based on inadequate or inconclusive data.

Excel overnight too.

Okay.

Yeah. Thanks for the question so well.

Well I wouldn't comment on datasets that I haven't seen from competitors I will say obviously.

You know drug development is not assure bet I think that when we look at <unk>. Two I think there's a couple of reasons for having confidence one is it has a very similar tiny.

We look forward to providing additional updates on these BD discussions as they come to fruition.

Kinase profile to Cabozantinib.

Has a shorter half life as it was designed to in order to potentially make the management of adverse events more manageable with temp.

Temporary interruptions.

I'll now turn the call back over to Mike.

And then I think the ability to combine with any number of additional combination agent. So as I mentioned in my prepared remarks.

Binding with a variety of different I O agents those.

All right.

At point inhibitor.

PD ones as well as potentially novel agents really gives us a.

A broad number of possibilities and we are leveraging the cabozantinib data that we've seen given the similar kinase profile to really consider where to go next with and a perfect example of that is the CRC program, where you saw the data at ESMO Gi earlier this year from both cosmic <unk> 'twenty one.

Thanks, Peter.

As you heard on the call today, the XL team continued to execute across all components of our business in the second quarter with significant progress across our pipeline, clinical development, and commercial activities.

As we enter the second half of 2022, we're excited about the potential for the multiple growth drivers ahead of us as we continue to move the business forward and, most importantly, enable XLX to help many more cancer patients.

I'll close by thanking the XLX's team for their individual and collective efforts to support our broad range of discovery, development, and commercial activities, both here in Alameda and in our growing XLX's East presence.

We have the vision, determination, and resources to become a multiproduct enterprise and expand our reach to serve cancer patients across the globe.

We look forward to updating you on our progress in the future.

As well as from an I S T.

Really provided the background data and confidence to move forward in that tumor type and so youll be seeing additional phase III trials.

We will be leveraging the cabozantinib data and activity that we've seen particularly with combination approaches to move forward with additional Registrational program.

That's very helpful. Thank you so much.

Thank you for your continued support and interest in XLX's, and we're now happy to open the call for questions.

Thank you Andy.

Your next question comes from the line of Jay Olson with Oppenheimer. Please proceed.

Thank you.

Oh, Hey, congrats on the quarter and thank you for taking the questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session.

To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad.

Can you talk about the feedback that you've received from Kols on the cosmic 313 topline results and any lessons you learned that you plan to apply to <unk>.

If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.

To withdraw your question, please press star, then two.

At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

Your first question comes from the line of Ashtika Gunawatame with Truist.

Triplet regimens with <unk> 92 in other tumor types.

Then separately we had a question on the factors that drove you to maintain your revenue guidance and any comments you can share on Cabo sales trends going into the second half of the year. Thank you.

Hey, Jay it's Mike, it's probably a little bit early to be commenting on feedback we're getting on 313 again as Vicki mentioned in her prepared remarks, we're hoping to have that data presentation. Sometime this year. So maybe we can come back to that question. Once the data is out and we can speak more freely about the totality of the data thats available okay.

<unk> of guidance I'll pass it over to Chris Thanks, Mike So from a revenue perspective.

<unk>, yes.

We're maintaining the guidance level for product revenue.

One $1.325 billion of 1 billion 425.

And right now based on what we've done year to date at 657. So if you annualize that that's in the lower end of the range, but we continue to we continue to see growth we see growth in Q1, we've seen growth in Q2 and Thats our expectation.

For growth in the second half of this year.

To meet the revenue guidance.

Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

Thank you Jay.

Your next question comes from the line of harsh Tiwari with Jefferies. Please proceed.

Please proceed.

Hi, everyone. This is IV for Akash. Thanks for taking our questions. We have a couple of questions. If I may. So the first question is about <unk> <unk>. So from the poster thanks to maintenance <unk>, it's related to neutral yeah, Enel So Paulo.

Hello.

This is Anant Shkainer for Osteco.

However, we are seeing that around 23 phone patients in <unk> pivotal cervical cancer trial, ocular AE that lease to dose reduction and there are 5% of patients discontinue the treatment. So how much confidence do you have that you will be able to dose <unk> keep that she will make for cake and get around it.

Toxicity is that kind of a one edge of El Cabo. So are you still feel comfortable with the environment $1 5 billion telematics killed by the year and also what makes you feel confident about Cabos, both post 2022 and beyond given the cosmic <unk>.

<unk> data and also competition from other tenants in the space. Thank you.

First of all, congrats on the quarter.

Yes, Hi, Peter Thanks for the question on Expedia zero too.

In comparison to <unk> there are a number of differentiating factors with <unk> that we feel are we feel are compelling.

Just had some questions here on XL102.

Are you guys still going to do the expansion cohorts in HR-positive breast cancer?

And when can we, expect enrollment to open in that?

Secondly, with respect to gross to net, it seems like quarter over quarter, your discounts were pretty flat while your gross product revenues grew.

How do you see that evolving in the second half?

I think it's a great example of taking a target which has clinical validation as shown by the two big data and then kind of building on that experience. So just to run through them first obviously the antibody is not the same binds to a different epitope on tissue factor.

Is there anything different, from your previous expectations?

And thirdly, in the 10-Q, I saw that PEVA seems to have filed an ANDA amendment and they're going to, or you guys are going to potentially file a suit against them.

Would that be a separate suit or would that be rolled into the current suit against PEVA?

Thank you.

Yeah, thanks for the questions.

It was very carefully selected such that the epitope does not interfere with factor seven binding and therefore, it does not interfere with the coagulation. It all and we've shown that in multiple preclinical models, both in vitro and aviva. So fairly confident that that's going to go to translate clinically.

The second major point of differentiation is really around the linker payload.

Hello, two uses these elas aleem link linker payload for enzyme works.

As a modified or a statin so it is not.

The standard MMA.

It's been so prevalent we used its fairly heavily modified and is a different linker.

We are carefully optimize for a number of parameters.

Kind of a biophysical parameters, but also especially for the stability.

Those the linker.

With that bond to the onto the antibody.

And certainly again books, both pre clinically we have kind of recapitulated that window too.

From dosing.

See very low levels of free circulating payload, while still maintaining good levels of in tax ABC, obviously as you get increasing levels of free circulating payload, that's something that can contribute to multiple aes.

And so we think for example, the neutral reduced neutropenia that was commented on in the preclinical models, maybe a consequence of that.

So I think the promise of only two as maybe the ability as you pointed out to dose higher than it has been achievable with <unk> from a mix per kg, but ultimately from a natural plasma exposure point of view and then see if that leads to an increased deficit increased efficacy with <unk>.

With a good therapeutic index.

We'll see how the results are now okay. Good and the other question Mike, Yes, we're certainly vectoring and the direction of that $1 5 billion dollar run rate by the end of the year. So I've got two more quarters to go but we certainly think we're off to a good start in Q1 and Q2 of 2022. So obviously stay tuned for the next updates.

Why don't we start with Vicky on the first one.

Chris, can take the second one and I'll answer the third one.

Sure.

So with respect to XL102, as I mentioned, we're currently in the dose escalation phase.

We go on throughout the year in terms of longer term growth potential for Cabo obviously, a lot of that is dependent upon how how the contact trials work out obviously, we need positive data to be able to drive revenue growth certainly the RCC effort as P. J and team have talked about today has gone.

And once we reach a recommended phase two dose, we'd be able to move on into dose expansion.

And really well and certainly we're excited about 313 at least that topline data, we need to see where that goes in terms of discussions with the FDA, but again, good data, but gets the opportunity for <unk>.

Top line growth and Thats the business that we're in so stay tuned.

Thank you.

Thank you Amy.

Yeah.

Your next question comes from the line of yarn Weber with Cowen. Please proceed.

So it will take some time to complete the escalation as well as evaluate that data.

Our plans for dose expansion have not changed at this point.

Hey, good afternoon, everybody a couple of questions.

The first one just maybe as a follow up to the last one when we look at seasonality Chicago. It looks like it seems the last two years sort of Q3 is a little weaker and then Q4 is a really strong kind of bounce back in into the year are you expecting sort of similar seasonality or was that more of a COVID-19 issue and then secondly, with respect to context.

I know you probably can't say a lot, but can you give us any flavor at all as to what was the interim analysis bar for.

It sounds like you're pass futility. So just confirm there was a futility look and then finally.

Ipsen is guiding to context, Oh, two data next year.

No.

Prostate and I think you're guiding to completing enrollment in the first half. So I just wanted to make sure if you're comfortable that in the first half because it sounds like you're on track for data by the end of the year. Thank you.

Okay. So I'll take the first question and Vicki can address tax too yeah, you're on.

Fair question about Q3, obviously, that's the quarter, we're in and we don't really comment on what's happening in the current quarter. So you're a year certainly enabled to go back look at prior years and draw your own conclusions, but we're not going to comment on that so thank you Vicky.

Yeah, and so I believe you may contact our one.

On the non small cell study, where you were asking about the OS analysis. So this is a roche run high algo, we're partnering with with Roche and per their process.

The I D. M C met to review an interim analysis of overall survival.

And recommended the trial be blinded and continue on to the final analysis. So we expect to see the final analysis data before the end of the year.

And.

We look forward to sharing those data at a medical conference when we receive them and certainly wouldn't you now include details.

The specifics of the trial design I apologize I missed your second question for me.

Yes, and so context too.

And prostate.

Is guiding to.

Data, but at the end of network data next year, and I think youre guiding essentially ending enrollment in the first half. So it sounds like as you complete enrollment in first half you'll have data by the end of the year just want to make sure. It's consistent thank you Paul.

Okay. Thanks, So yes, so where we are focused on completing enrollment right now.

And we do anticipate that that will be in the first half of next year I think we'll have a better sense of our projection for when the events are coming in and the timing of the analysis once we complete enrollment.

Chris?

Thank you Ron Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Lawson with Barclays. Please proceed.

Great. Thanks, so much thanks for taking the questions Chris I guess just.

Use of cash in.

Some potential M&A and asset crisis.

Commentary around that would be great. Thank you.

Okay.

All right Peter Thanks, It's Chris So yes.

Yes, I mean, we.

$2 billion that as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we feel that.

That's an asset that we can utilize to continue to build out our development our development in our discovery organizations.

But also in parallel to that.

Our business development efforts and we're continuing to evaluate assets just because they're less expensive doesn't mean, they look better.

<unk> Sciences.

Where we're headed with this and so we're going to continue with the science and then and then obviously the economics fall out of that but we're.

We're out there hunting and looking for assets that can help us expand our pipeline.

Got you.

Shale asset prices have got to it.

A reasonable level.

Okay.

Yes, I mean, Peter they've come down, but I mean, its all relative its all relative to the value that you see based on the data that you're seeing and the opportunity in the market.

The relative number.

So we're continuing to look.

Got you. Thank you and then I guess, the Vickie just XL willing to just that.

What we should expect for the second half status.

One zero to be patience and tumor types.

And cohorts et cetera.

Yes.

Yes, so we have submitted.

An abstract for XL, one I would say with the hopes of sharing data later this year at a at a medical conference I think in terms of the details.

That'll.

Obviously be shared at the time that the abstract is published and ultimately with the.

With the.

Presentation at the conference.

It is a dose escalation looking across multiple cohorts in multiple tumor types and so that is what you would expect to see at that time.

Okay. Thanks, so much.

Thanks for taking my questions you bet Peter Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Gregory <unk> with RBC capital markets. Please proceed.

Thanks, Mike.

So this is Chris Hunter.

Yes, Hi, this is Sudan logo Nathan on for Greg rents. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the great quarter.

So first I wanted to touch on the <unk>.

Fiscal 2022 data that you guys presented for Cabo combinations.

At September Elizabeth.

Specifically in the head and neck.

Several months and.

Non small cell lung cancer and you see indications just how do you view that combination going forward.

Can we get some insight into it.

A potential registration trials and how that may be.

Formulated and then secondly, just wanted to give you guys. The opportunity again to really talk about the BD activity that you have embarked on recently it seems like it's very active and with multiple different targets in multiple different.

Technologies and just very curious on you know.

If theres any specific technologies, there that you're most excited about or if you are diversifying in the sense of looking into liquid cancers and solid tumors.

Just looking for any clarity that you have on that aspect as well. Thank you.

Yes.

So from a gross to net perspective, you know, last quarter, so first quarter this year, gross to net was 30.8%. We came down to 28.2% this quarter. And that was driven, as I said, mostly around Medicare Part D and lower, copay assistance for commercial patients. You know, as I said, on the last quarter call, we're thinking that gross to net for the year is going to be in the 29% range as we see it today.

Okay, Vicki you want to take the first part.

Thanks.

Sure so with regard to the.

The Cabozantinib plus timber Elysium map data that were presented at Ash go. So this was from an investigator sponsored trial in recurrent head and neck cancer certainly interesting data as.

And in regard to your question around the PEVA, Anda can't really provide more update today on that.

So thanks for the question.

As we've said before we're looking to leverage data from our Cabozantinib development program to move forward with <unk> as quickly as possible given the similar kinase profile again, I think checkpoint inhibitor combinations are certainly of interest to us given the potential immune modulation and Jack.

What we've seen in terms of activity for a checkpoint inhibitor combinations with the with the tyrosine kinase inhibitors. So we're going to continue to leverage those learnings as we develop additional registrational trials. So for now stay tuned.

Yes. This is Peter so with respect to.

BD activities.

Correct, Yes, very active right now we're looking at a pretty broad spectrum of things.

Just to provide a bit more color.

I mean, we have obviously a building a fairly substantial internal small molecule discovery capability.

That said I think there was a lot of interesting and approaches and technologies out there.

<unk> enabled one to take on a broader range of targets than the traditional small molecule kind of kind of targets that have been out there previously such as such as kinases. So we're always looking at those essentially seeking to complement what we can do internally and broadened the range a target. So we can take on.

Likewise on the biotherapeutics fronts.

For us that's much more being done through a network of collaboration. So again, we continue to look at Cabo with collaborations that will give us access to a broader range of targets antibodies payloads.

And platforms potentially as well.

And then coupled with that of course, we've been very actively looking at a wide range of both small molecules Empire therapeutics that are either in late preclinical development or early clinical development.

With the aim of potentially optioning or licensing licensing so lots going on so stay tuned.

Thank you so much.

Great. Thank you operator next question.

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Kerberry with Bank of America.

Your next question comes from the line of.

Sure out with BMO capital markets. Please proceed.

Please proceed.

Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the quarter. Just a question on Excel 92 presentations at ESMO. If you could maybe just speak to us a little bit about so where maybe we should be focused on and the dataset.

Oh, hey, guys.

Thanks for taking my question.

And maybe we'll we start to sort of glean into.

The profile of that led to the initiation of the CRC trial.

And hopefully the answer could be a little, more expounded upon than the last one.

As Elisa, Matt just wanted to get a sense of sort of what your expectations are in the data set and how we should should we be thinking about that data set as it as it is presented thank you.

But just, you know, there was an update that there's a new patent in dispute that pertains to one of your formulation patents that hadn't been asserted earlier on in litigation.

And just curious if that's in any way connected to there's a deficiency in the generic application regarding some impurities, presumably around their S form of compositinib.

Okay.

Okay. So with respect to XOMA two I'll say, we're pleased that our ESMO has accepted our abstract for a poster.

As I mentioned earlier these are going to be data from dose escalation cohorts that supported the recommended phase two dose both for the monotherapy for <unk> 92, and correct below 92 in combination with the Tesla lithium map. So predominantly focused on safety data on pharmacokinetics that supported the dose that we're moving.

Howard with both for the monotherapy and the combination there will be preliminary data looking at activity of course across multiple doses.

And multiple tumor types, but I think that it will give you a sense of the general activity profile of the molecule and we look forward to sharing more details in the ESMO poster.

Great. Thank you.

Yes, Sir.

And if you can't get into too many details, just curious, you know, will that patent operate under a separate litigation track than the other two tracks?

Your next question comes from the line of Chris.

Sheba autonomy with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

I'm just kind of curious how complex the overall MSM litigation case has gotten.

Hi, Good afternoon. This is Steven on for Chris. Thanks for taking my question I have a couple related to the reconciliation bill and potential for price negotiations can you just remind us about the split of patients.

Yeah, Jason, it's Mike.

Thanks for the question.

All fair questions.

I'm not going to be able to, say much more.

<unk> through commercial payers versus government pairs.

You're correct about the third newest Orange Book edition and Paragraph 4 back and forth that's happening right now.

So we're looking through all those details.

And then.

And as that becomes clarified, it'll show up in the public domain and you'll be able to see what's happening.

Okay.

How is your team thinking or modeling the <unk> loss of exclusivity.

Can't really provide more updates.

I'll start would be helpful. Thank you.

Thanks, Stephen This is Chris Senner, so from a biz.

Business prospect from us.

Proportion of business perspective commercial versus versus government payer from our government payer perspective, we're in that 40% range, yes. It depends on the quarter, obviously in the stream of patients, but we're in that 40% range could be higher it could be lower depending on the quarter, but that's the way we've seen it historically.

Yes, Mike in terms of long range planning all the work that we've done to date focuses on Cabo low 2030.

Okay. Thank you very much thank you Steven.

Your next question comes from the line of Andy Shay with William Blair. Please proceed.

But thanks for the question.

Yeah.

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Schmidt with Guggenheim.

Thanks, Ed.

Thanks for the follow up.

<unk> so.

For Peter I'm, just curious if you can elaborate on the new XP <unk> four program.

Modulating the two more exciting checkpoints.

I just wanted to know.

No about the design considerations are you trying to achieve induced proximity across two distinct cell types or there is something more going on there and.

It goes without saying that.

Investors and also maybe clinicians are interested in in the strategy that you employ to potentially reduce red blood cell binding. So I don't know if you are willing to kind of comment on that as well. Thanks.

Please proceed.

Yeah sure Andy So, yes, you're correct actually zero loan for essentially have Bispecific that has two arms one targeting the will then PD lone PD one.

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions.

I had a few on Cabo Medics.

T cell checkpoint the other the CD 47 sort of Alpha macrophage checkpoint.

Maybe first, if you could comment on market dynamics in the first line RCC setting.

So it's been a lot of recent interest in the latter.

What has been learned I think from the initial clinical experiences with a number of those agents, including the fact that in.

EMEA and thrombocytopenia or some of the major east.

We are very carefully designed to expedia wound for taking those data into account.

In brief we have got a tight binding PDL, one side, but very D tuned the CD 47 side a little bit so.

What we see as kind of minimal binding to red blood cells, but we still get avid binding to tumor cells because of the PD lone on bringing the CD 47 down so it's an ability effect essentially and yes, we would expect that there's going to be a proximity effect there as well in terms of bringing macrophages into play and finally because of the design of the molecule we're able to have a one.

<unk> type ITG, one FC and then which normally you have silenced because of the red blood cell binding and of course, having that FC domain will incident somewhat with the CD 47 checkpoint. So well those things are incorporated we think it's an interesting and reasonably unique profile. So we're excited to be taking it forward.

Great. Thanks look forward to the data from generated from that program.

Great Andy Thank you very much for the question.

Where does the growing TRX share, where is it coming from?

At this time there are no further questions and so I will turn the call over to today's host Susan Hubbard Ms Hubbard.

Are you still taking share from Sutan predominantly or perhaps from some of the other combinations?

Thank you and thank you all for joining US today, we certainly welcome your follow up calls with any additional questions. You may have that we're unable to address during today's call.

And the Lenvima is also growing at the moment.

I'm just curious how you see that playing out longer term in first line RCC.

A question on Cosmic 313.

We were just wondering what the relevance of this OS analysis is, just given that other drugs, for example, the Javelin regimen did actually obtain approval just based on PFS without OS being stat sick.

And then lastly on Contact 01, we're just curious what your expectation is, how the control arm will perform here in lung cancer post checkpoints and chemotherapy and is Canopy 2 perhaps the relevant historic comp?

Thanks so much.

Okay, thanks, Michael.

Why don't we start with PJ for the first question and then Vicky can follow up with the next two.

Perfect.

Thanks, Michael.

It's PJ.

Yeah, you know, as you mentioned with regards to the market dynamics and first line RCC, we're certainly pleased with the growth we've seen as we talked about seven quarters in a row of prescription growth and Q2 this year over Q2 last year, TRX growth of 29% we're certainly pleased with and 6%, you know, quarter over quarter.

You know, so I think what's what's happening in the marketplace is the data and the messages are really resonating with physicians.

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As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, you know, physician experience continues to be to be positive.

You know, as physicians get more experience with with Cabo Medix and Nevo in the first line setting, certainly our data and the messages of overall survival balanced with, you know, a good toxicity profile and quality of life really resonates there.

You know, so we, we continue to take share from multiple and, you know, I think we're really well positioned going forward to continue to take share as well as, you know, continuing to get that growth.

As I mentioned in my prepared remarks from just the duration of therapy for those patients, which were, you know, in the trial, the PFS is in the, in the ballpark of a year and a half.

So I think we're benefiting from all those dynamics.

Great.

Thanks.

Vicki.

Yep.

So Cosmic 313, you know, I think it's important to remember for this trial that we studied the triplet combination of Cabo Medix in combination with nivolumab and ipilimumab versus nivolumab and ipilimumab in poor and intermediate risk patients where Nevo have already demonstrated a survival benefit.

Right?

So this is the first phase three clinical trial to go up against a modern standard of care in renal cell carcinoma.

So the primary endpoint here is, is progression pre-survival and we've clearly demonstrated a benefit in PFS.

The OS, as you might imagine, is immature.

The median OS with Nevo and IPI, you know, in this particular patient population is approximately four years. So we do expect some time, you know, for it to be some time before the data mature.

And with these data in hand, we do plan to approach the FDA to have a conversation about a potential regulatory submission based on the progression pre-survival data.

With respect to Contact-01, you know, as you noted, this is a patient population in non-small-cell lung cancer of patients who have already received a checkpoint inhibitor and vitamin-based chemotherapy, so they have relatively few therapeutic options and often receive single-agent paxing chemotherapy.

You know, the expected survival in this setting is, you know, is less than a year for these patients, and so there really are – there really is a need for additional treatment options that can improve upon that overall survival.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

Okay, Operator, we'll take the next question when you're ready.

The next question comes from the line of Andy Hsieh with William Blair.

Please proceed.

Great, yeah.

Congratulations on a stellar quarter from the Cabozantinib franchise, achieving over 2 billion, you know, analyzed sales globally and also the 313 win.

I have a question regarding the Senate bill.

I'm just curious if you have any thoughts regarding the short-term impact from Medicare exposure and potentially longer term as you think about portfolio diversification, any sort of push and pull that you expect, you know, as you plan on expanding the pipeline.

The second question I have is for Peter.

I am very curious about the BioInvent deal.

I'm just curious about, from a drug development standpoint, what potential blind spots can you uncover by using primary tissues versus just, you know, kind of cell lines?

And I have a follow-up.

All right.

Well, Andy, well, thanks for the questions.

I'll take the first one.

Peter can wax poetic on the second one, I'm sure, for as much time as we've got.

In terms of the Inflation Reduction Act and the drug pricing part of that, again, it's been a pretty interesting weekend to watch all the pushes and pulls.

Certainly it will get, I think, signed by the end of next week is the, I think, the timeline.

You know, at a high level, let me say the following, because we're doing a lot of work.

It's pretty complicated.

There's about 200 pages of drug pricing info in an 800-page bill.

So we're doing a lot of math right now to be able to understand things both quantitatively and temporally.

So I think we'll have probably more data in a few weeks in terms of how that looks.

I would say at a high level, you know, it really doesn't impact us that much as the company as we are today.

We fall into that small company, if you will, clinical category with a single product in terms of the criteria that are outlined in the draft wording of the bill.

So we don't anticipate much impact on our business.

But as you said, I think very eloquently, we aspire to do more and have more and be more as we go forward, be a multi-product company covering both small molecules and biologics.

And that diversity of modalities certainly plays well with the proposed wording of the bill as well as just in terms of being able to help more patients.

So certainly in the longer term, there might be issues.

We think we can navigate all those issues as we go forward.

But we're certainly pleased to be able to see at least in terms of short midterm impact be minimal probably at best.

Peter?

Yeah, hi Andy, thanks for the question on BioInvent.

Yeah, I'm certainly very happy to have done that deal, and you correctly pointed out that the starting point for their target ID and validation efforts is primary human tumor material, which I think it has a number of key advantages versus, you know, certainly cell lines, but even animal models.

And in terms of target expression, of course, you know, regulation target expression can often be very complicated, can depend on the local growth factors, cytokine, milieu, for example.

Often when you take things out of their normal in vivo setting and try and culture them, you lose all of that.

So it's really, I think, very strong to be able to start from that primary material.

So obviously the process there is to look for things which are specifically upregulated in human tumor tissue.

And then since you have an antibody, you can then ask, does it do anything functionally?

Does it kill the tumor cells?

Does it activate immune cells, for example?

So I think those two components together make it a very powerful platform, and we're excited to be working with them.

Andy, did you have a follow-up?

Yeah, thanks for the question.

So, well, I wouldn't comment on data sets that I haven't seen from competitors.

I will say, obviously, drug development is not a sure bet.

I think that when we look at O9-2, I think there's a couple reasons for having confidence. One is it has a very similar kinase profile to cabozantinib.

It has a shorter half-life, as it was designed to, in order to potentially make the management of adverse events more manageable with temporary interruptions.

And then I think the ability to combine with any number of additional combination agents.

So, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, combining with a variety of different IO agents, both, checkpoint inhibitors, you know, including PD1s, as well as potentially novel agents, really gives us a broad number of possibilities.

And we are leveraging the cabozantinib data that we've seen, given the similar kinase profile, to really consider where to go next with.

And, you know, the perfect example of that is the CRC program, where you saw the data at ASCOGI earlier this year from both COSMIC-021, as well as from NIST, that really provided the background data and confidence to move forward in that tumor type.

And so you'll be seeing additional phase three trials, where we will be leveraging the cabozantinib data and activity that we've seen, particularly with combination approaches to move forward with additional registrational programs.

That's very helpful.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Andy.

Your next question comes from the line of Jay Olson with Oppenheimer.

Please proceed.

Oh, hey.

Congrats on the quarter, and thank you for taking the questions.

Can you talk about the feedback that you've received from KOLs on the COSMIC-313 top-line results, and any lessons you learned that you plan to apply to triplet regimens with XLO92 and other tumor types?

And then separately, we had a question on the factors that drove you to maintain your revenue guidance, and any comments you can share on cablo sales trends going into the second half of the year?

Thank you.

Hey, Jay.

It's Mike.

It's probably a little bit early to be commenting on feedback we're getting on 313.

Again, as Vicki mentioned in her prepared remarks, we're hoping to have that data presentation sometime this year.

So maybe we can come back to that question once the data is out, and we can speak more freely about the totality of the data that's available.

Okay.

In terms of guidance, I'll pass it over to Chris.

Thanks, Mike.

So from a revenue perspective, yeah, we're maintaining the guidance level, for product revenue of $1,325,000,000 to $1,425,000,000.

And right now, based on what we've done year-to-date, it's $657,000.

So if you annualize that, that's in the lower end of the range.

But we continue to see growth. We've seen growth in Q1.

We've seen growth in Q2. And that's our expectation for growth, in the second half of this year to meet that revenue guidance level.

Great.

Thanks for taking the questions.

You bet.

Thank you, Jay.

Your next question comes from the line of Akash Kiwari with Jefferies.

Please proceed.

Hi, everyone.

This is Iri for Akash.

Thanks for taking our questions.

We have a couple of questions if we may.

So the first question is about XB-002. So from the, poster, it seems the main improvement in XB-002 is related to neutrophenia and also bleeding AEs.

However, we are seeing that around 20% of patients in PVAX pivotal cervical cancer, trial had ocular AE that leads to dose reduction, and there are 5% of patients discontinue the treatment.

So how much confidence do you have that you will be able to dose past PVAX two weeks per kick and get around IA toxicity?

The second one is about CABL.

So are you still feel comfortable with the run rate of 1.5 billion CABL metastases by the year end?

Also, what makes you feel confident about CABL's growth post-2022 and beyond, given the COSMIC-313 data and also competition from other treatments in the space?

Thank you.

Hi, my name is Peter.

Thanks for the question on XB002.

In comparison to TIVDAC, there are, a number of differentiating factors with XB002 that we feel are compelling.

I mean, I think it's a great example of taking a target which has clinical validation, as shown by the TIVDAC data, and then kind of building on that experience.

So just to run through them, first, obviously, the antibody is not the same.

It binds to a different epitope on tissue factor.

It was very carefully selected such that the epitope does not interfere with factor VII binding, and therefore does not interfere with coagulation at all. And we've shown that in multiple preclinical models, both in vitro and in vivo.

So I'm fairly confident that that's going to translate clinically.

The second major point of differentiation is really around the link of payload.

XB002 uses the ZLA-Zyme link of payload from ZymeWorks.

That is a modified or a statin, so it's not the standard MMAE that has been so prevalently used. It's fairly heavily modified and has a different linker.

These were carefully optimized for a number of parameters, kind of biophysical parameters, but also especially for the stability of the linker with that bond to the antibody.

And certainly, again, both preclinically, we've kind of recapitulated that with O02. On dosing, we see very low levels of free circulating payload, whilst maintaining good, levels of intact ADC.

Obviously, as you get increasing levels of free circulating payload, that's something that can contribute to multiple AEs.

And so we think, for example, the reduced neutropenia that was commented on in the preclinical models may be a consequence of that.

So I think the promise of O02 is maybe the ability, as you pointed out, to dose higher, than has been achievable with TivDAC, either from a MIG-PKG, but ultimately from an actual plasma exposure point of view, and then see if that leads to an increased efficacy with a good therapeutic index.

So we'll see how the results turn out.

Okay, good.

The other question, Mike, yeah, we're certainly vectoring in the direction, of that $1.5 billion run rate by the end of the year.

So we've got two more quarters to go, but we certainly think we're off to a good start in Q1 and Q2 of 2022.

So obviously, stay tuned for the next updates as we go on throughout the year.

In terms of longer-term growth potential for CABA, obviously, a lot of that's dependent, upon how the contact trials work out.

Obviously, we need positive data to be able to drive revenue growth.

Certainly, the RCC effort, as PJ and team have talked about today, have gone really well.

And certainly, we're excited about 313, at least that top-line data.

We need to see where that goes in terms of discussions with the FDA.

But again, good data, but gets the opportunity for top-line growth, and that's the business that we're in.

So stay tuned.

Thank you.

Thank you, Amy.

Your next question comes from the line of Yarn Warbler with Cowan.

Please proceed.

Good afternoon everybody.

I have a couple of questions.

The first one just maybe as a follow up to the last one.

When we look at seasonality for Cabo, it looks like at least the last two years sort of Q3 is a little weaker and then Q4 has a really strong kind of bounce back and end to the year.

Are you expecting sort of similar seasonality or is that more of a COVID issue?

And then secondly, with respect to contact 01, I know you probably can't say a lot, but can you give us any flavor at all, as to what was the interim analysis bar for OS? It sounds like you passed futility, so just confirm there was a futility look.

And then finally, Ipsen is guiding to contact 02 data next year in prostate, and I think you're guiding to completing enrollment in the first half.

So I just want to make sure if you complete enrollment in the first half, does it sound like you're on track for data by the end of the year?

Thank you.

Okay, so I'll take the first question and Vicky can address the next two.

Yeah, your own fair question about Q3.

Obviously, that's the quarter we're in, and we don't really comment on what's happening in the current quarter.

So you're, you're certainly enabled to go back, look at prior years and draw your own conclusions, but we're not going to comment on that.

So, thank you.

Vicky.

Yeah, and so I believe you meant contact 01, the non-small cell study where you were asking about the OS analysis.

So, so this is a Roche run trial. We're partnering with Roche, and per their process, the IDMC met to review an interim analysis of overall survival and recommended that the trial be blinded and continue on to the final analysis.

So, we expect to see the final analysis data before the end of the year, and we look forward to sharing those data at a medical conference when we receive them, and certainly would include details of the specifics of the trial design.

I apologize.

I missed your second question for me.

Yeah, and so contact 02 in PROSTAIT.

IBSN is guiding to data by the end of, or data next year, and I think you're guiding completing enrollment in the first half. So, it sounds like if you complete enrollment in the first half, you'll have data by the end of the year.

Just want to make sure it's consistent.

Thank you.

Okay, thanks.

So, yeah, so we're, we are focused on completing enrollment right now, and we do anticipate that that will be in the first half of next year.

I think we'll have a better sense of our projection for when the events are coming in and the timing of the analysis once we complete enrollment.

Great, Yaron.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Lawson with Barclays.

Please proceed.

Great.

Thanks so much, Liz, for taking the question.

Chris, I guess just thoughts on the use of cash and thoughts on potential M&A and asset crisis, any kind of commentary around that would be great.

Thank you.

All right, Peter, thanks.

It's Chris.

So, yeah, I mean, we have 2Billion dollars, and as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we feel that that's an asset that we can utilize to continue to build out our development and our discovery organizations, but also in parallel to that, our business development efforts, and we're continuing to evaluate assets just because they're less expensive doesn't mean they look better.

Science is where we're headed with this, and so we're going to continue with the science, and then obviously the economics fall out of that, but we're out there hunting and looking for assets that can help us expand our pipeline.

Do you feel asset prices have got to a reasonable level? Yeah, I mean, Peter, they've come down, but I mean, it's all relative.

It's all relative to the value that you see based on the data that you're seeing and the opportunity in the market.

So it's a relative number.

So we're continuing to look.

Gotcha.

Thank you.

And then I guess for Vicky, just on XL102, just what we should expect for the second half data for 102 and how many patients and tumor types and cohorts, et cetera.

Yeah, so we have submitted an abstract for XL102 with the hopes of sharing data later this year at a medical conference.

I think in terms of the details, you know, that'll obviously be shared at the time that the abstract is published.

And ultimately, with the presentation at the conference, it is a, you know, dose escalation looking across multiple cohorts and multiple tumor types.

And so that is what you would expect to see at that time.

Okay.

Thanks so much.

Thanks for taking the questions.

You bet, Peter.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Gregory Renza with RBC Capital Markets.

Please proceed.

Yes, hi.

This is Sudan Logan Nathan on for Greg Renza.

Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the great quarter.

So, first, I wanted to touch on the ASCO 2022 data that you guys presented for combinations, you know, with Pembrolizumab, specifically in the head and neck sarcomas and non-small cell lung cancer.

And you see indications just, you know, how do you view that combination going forward?

And, you know, can we get some insight into potential registration trials and how that that may be formulated?

And then, secondly, I just wanted to give you guys the opportunity again to really talk about the BD activity that you have embarked on recently.

It seems like it's very active and with multiple different targets and multiple different technologies.

And just very curious on, you know, you know, if there's any specific technologies there that you're most excited about or if you are diversifying the sense of looking into liquid cancers and solid tumors.

Just looking for any clarity that you have on that aspect as well.

Thank you.

Okay, Vicky, you want to take the first part?

Sure.

So, with regard to the Cabozantinib plus Pembrolizumab data that were presented at ASCO. So, this was from an investigator sponsored trial in recurrent head and neck cancer.

Certainly interesting data.

As we've said before, we're looking to leverage data from our Cabozantinib development program to move forward with XL092 as quickly as possible given the similar kinase profile.

Again, I think checkpoint inhibitor combinations are certainly of interest to us given the potential immune modulation.

And, what we've seen in terms of activity for checkpoint inhibitor combinations with the tyrosine kinase inhibitors.

So, we're going to continue to leverage those learnings as we develop additional registrational trials.

So, for now, stay tuned.

Yeah, this is Peter.

So, with respect to ongoing BD activities, you're correct.

Yes, very active right now.

We're looking at a pretty broad spectrum of things just to provide a bit more color.

We have, obviously, are building a fairly substantial internal small molecule discovery capability. You know, that said, I think there is a lot of, you know, interesting approaches and technologies out there that enable one to take on a broader range of targets than, you know, the traditional small molecule kind of targets that have been out there previously, such as kinases.

So, we're always looking at those, essentially thinking to complement what we can do internally and then broaden the range of targets that we can take on.

Likewise, on the biotherapeutics front, for us, that's much more being done through a network of collaborations.

So, again, we continue to look at collaborations that will give us access to a broader range of targets, antibodies, payloads, and platforms potentially as well.

And then coupled with that, of course, we've been very actively looking at a wide range of both small molecules and biotherapeutics that are either in late preclinical development or early clinical development with the aim of potentially optioning or licensing those.

So, yeah, lots going on, so stay tuned.

Great.

Thank you, Alfred.

Our next question?

Your next question comes from the line of Edzer Duralt with BMO Capital Markets.

Please proceed.

Great.

Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on the quarter.

Just a question on the Excel 092 presentation at ASMO.

If you could maybe just speak to us a little bit about sort of, you know, where maybe we should be focused on in the data set.

And maybe will we start to sort of gleam into, you know, the profile that led to the, you know, initiation of the CRC trial with metazolizumab.

Just want to get a sense of sort of what your expectations are in the data set and how we should be thinking about that data set as it's presented.

Thank you.

Okay.

So, with respect to Excel 092, I'll say we're pleased that ASMO has accepted our abstracts for a poster. As I mentioned earlier, these are going to be data from dose escalation cohorts that supported the recommended phase 2 dose, both for the monotherapy for Excel 092 and for Excel 092 in combination with the metazolizumab.

So, predominantly focused on safety data and pharmacokinetics that supported the dose that we're moving forward with, both for the monotherapy and the combination.

There will be preliminary data looking at activity, of course, across multiple doses and multiple tumor types, but I think that it will give you a sense of the general activity profile of the molecule, and we look forward to sharing more details in the ASMO poster.

Great.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Shibutani with Goldman Sachs.

Please, proceed.

Hi, good afternoon.

This is Stephen.

I'm for Chris.

Thanks for taking our question.

I have, a couple related to the reconciliation bill and potential for price negotiations.

Can you just remind us about the split of patients reimbursed through commercial payers versus government payers?

And then how is your team thinking or modeling the cabinetics loss of exclusivity?

Any thoughts there would be helpful.

Thank you.

Thanks, Stephen.

This is Chris Senner.

So from a business perspective, from a proportion of, business perspective, commercial versus government payer, we're, you know, from a government payer perspective, we're in that 40% range.

You know, it depends on the quarter, obviously, and the stream of patients, but we're in that 40% range, could be higher, it could be lower, depending on the quarter.

But that's the way we've seen it historically.

Yeah, it's Mike.

In terms of long range planning, all the work that we've done to date, focuses on a CAVO LOE of 2030.

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you, Stephen.

Your next question comes from the line of Andy Shea with William Blair.

Please proceed.

Oh, thanks, Seth.

Thanks for the follow up question.

So for Peter, I'm just curious if you, can elaborate on a new XB-014 program.

Obviously, it's modulating the two, you know, more exciting checkpoints.

I just want to, you know, know about the design considerations, you know, are you trying to achieve induced proximity across two distinct cell types?

Or there's something more going on there?

And, you know, it goes without saying that investors and also maybe clinicians are interested in, in the strategy that you employ to potentially reduce red blood cell binding.

So I don't know if you are willing to kind of comment on that as well.

Thanks.

Yeah, sure, Andy.

So, yes, you're correct.

XB-014 essentially has, you know, a device specific that has two arms, one targeting the well-known PD-L1, PD-1 T-cell checkpoint, the other the CD47 SERP-alpha macrophage checkpoint.

There's always been a lot of recent interest in the latter. And a lot has been learned, I think, from the initial clinical experiences with a number of those agents, including the fact that, you know, anemia and thrombocytopenia are some of the major AEs that are seen.

We have very carefully designed XB-014, taking those data into account.

In brief, we've got a tight binding PD-L1 side, but, we've very, we've detuned the CD47 side a little bit. So, you know, what we see is kind of minimal binding to red blood cells, but we still get avid binding to tumor cells because of the PD-L1 arm bringing the CD47 arm down. So it's an avidity effect, essentially.

And, yes, we would, expect that there's going to be a proximity effect there as well in terms of bringing macrophages into play.

And finally, because of the design of the molecule, we're able to have a wild-type IgG1-FC in there, which normally you have to silence because of the red blood cell binding.

And, of course, having that FC domain will then synergize somewhat with the CD47 checkpoint.

So all of those things are incorporated.

We think it's an interesting and reasonably unique profile, so we're excited to be taking it forward.

Great, thanks.

Look forward to the data generated from that program.

Great, Andy.

Thank you very much for the question.

At this time, there are no further questions, and so I will turn the call over to today's host, Susan Hubbard.

Ms. Hubbard?

Yes, thank you, and thank you all for joining us today.

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