Q2 2022 Kelly Services Inc Earnings Call
Good morning.
And welcome to <unk> second quarter earnings call Conference call all parties will be on listen only.
Bold until question and answer portion of the presentation. Today's call is being recorded at the request of Kelly services.
If anyone has any objections you may disconnect at this time, our second quarter webcast presentation is also available on Kelly's website for this mornings call I would now like to turn it turn the meeting over to your host Mr. Peter Quigley President and CEO . Please go ahead.
Thank you, Eric Hello, everyone and welcome to Kelly services second quarter Conference call.
With me today is Olivier T Rowe, our Chief Financial Officer, who will walk you through our safe Harbor language, which can be found in our presentation materials.
Peter and good morning, everyone. As a reminder, any comments made during this call including the Q&A may include forward looking statements by the word expectations for future performance.
So our results could differ materially from those suggested by our comments.
We have no obligation to update the statements made on this call.
Please refer to our SEC filings for a description of the risk factors that could influence the company's actual future performance.
In addition, during the call something that I will be discussed on a reported and on an adjusted basis discuss.
Discussion of items on an adjusted basis are non-GAAP financial measures designed to give insight into certain trends in our operations.
References to organic growth in our discussion today excludes the results of our 2022 acquisitions, let's look at Bauer and pediatric therapeutic services of Pts.
Rocket priorities included in our consolidated results of operations for the full quarter and Pts since may take on the acquisition date.
In Q2, we did pass the April 2021 anniversary of our acquisition of Sofa World.
The result of so Paulo are included in our organic growth metrics beginning in Q2 2022.
Finally leaves a slide deck that we're using on today's call is available on our website and now back to you Peter Thanks, Olivier as our second quarter came to a close it marked the second anniversary of Kellys optimized operating model.
A design that has proven to be a powerful enabler of our specialty strategy.
We created five reporting segments arranged by specialty each laser focused on growth and.
And each step with market, leading experts, who are identifying and executing new opportunities for high margin growth.
We've become more aggressive about redeploying capital to fund the specialty investments over the past two years.
Selling our staffing operations in Brazil, monetizing noncore real estate holdings unwinding, our cross ownership with personal and reducing our JV ownership in APAC and effectively putting that capital to work within our specialty focused operating model.
Insert we made Kelly's largest ever acquisition with the purchase of soft world in the fast growing technology space.
In our education specialty we of course acquired Greenwood Asher to expand into executive search, we designed and launched new products in K 12, tutoring para education, and higher education and acquired pediatric therapeutic services Pts.
To capture rapid growth in this K 12, adjacency and in OCG, we launched new and enhanced technology solutions in our fast growing MSP and Rps practices.
And acquired rocket power to add scale and breadth to our high margin <unk> business.
It has been an exceptional two years of focus and strategic execution, all while facing a global pandemic historic disruptions in the labor market supply chain shortages, Russia as war in Ukraine, and an extended period of economic uncertainty.
And we don't intend to slow down the pace, we've set over these past two years.
Even after our two most recent acquisitions, we carry no debt and have more than $400 million in available capital to deploy in pursuit of higher margin specialty growth and other critical investments for the future.
Turning to our second quarter results, we see further confirmation that our intentional pursuit of specialization is paying off as our mix shifts towards higher margin business. We.
We said, we would pursue higher margin specialties to drive profitable growth and we executed against that strategy in Q2.
Despite economic uncertainty caused by inflationary pressures in <unk>.
Interest rate hikes supply chain disruptions and a more guarded approach to hiring in some industries dimmed.
Demand for Kelly specialties remains solid and importantly, we are successfully translating revenue into excellent GDP growth.
Our overall organic Q2, GP rate was significantly higher than last year and it is bolstered by our specialty acquisitions.
Our GP rate improved in each of our five segments and organic gross margin dollars also improved in each segment, reflecting the continued positive shift in business mix towards higher margin products and specialties, continuing a positive trend we saw in Q1.
Insert our technology specialty which includes soft world continued to deliver double digit growth in the second quarter.
Our education segment delivered strong year over year growth and Greenwood Asher drove a substantial increase in executive search fees.
Our OCG segment, which now includes rocket power delivered robust growth in <unk> and continued to deliver impressive growth in our MSP practice.
And P&I notwithstanding decline in revenue, primarily due to the change in delivery by a large customer that we discussed on our last two calls P&I continued its growth gross profit growth trajectory.
And in international EMEA delivered revenue growth and higher permanent placement fees.
One final note regarding our international segment.
We shared last quarter that we were considering options for Kelly's Russian operations in July we completed a transaction to transfer our Russian business to a Russian company.
As a result, Kelly is no longer operating in Russia.
Olivier will provide additional details regarding the impact of our exit.
I'll now turn it over to him for a closer look at the details of Kellys Q2 results. Thank you Peter for the second quarter of 2022 revenue totaled $1 3 billion up <unk>, 7% from the prior year, including 200 basis points of unfavorable currency impact.
So revenues for the quarter were up two 7% in constant currency.
Included in that increase a 150 basis point favorable impact from our acquisitions of rocket Bowen and Pts as well as 250 basis points unfavorable impact, resulting from market changes in Mexico from the Q3 2021, Stephanie markets related installation.
Annual revenue declines in Russia as.
As we look at second quarter revenue by segment revenue in our professional industry segment declined 11% year over year in the quarter.
The segment's outcome based business continues to be impacted by a contraction in year over year demand from our call Center specialty outcome base revenue was down two 7% as growth in our outcome based although I would come based efficiencies, partially offset the decline in call Center volume.
Revenue from our staffing product declined 14% on lower hours volume, which has been partially offset by higher bill rates, resulting from the upward pressure on wages in the current tenant market.
About 60% of the staffing revenue declined <unk> of a large staffing account to a direct hire model, which Peter mentioned and which we discussed as part of our outlook and I will make coal and.
And finally film sheet and P&I were up 45% as our customers demand for direct hire services as continued.
Moving to the <unk> segment revenue was up 9%. We have continued to see a strong recovery in demand in telecommunications demand for outcome based solutions remains solid and our technology specialty which includes self world continued with double digit growth.
Permanent placement fees growth also continued up 40% year over year.
In our education segment year over year growth continues to be strong up 47% on a reported basis.
The reported results include the May acquisition of Cts suite revenue growth was 40% on an organic basis year over year revenue growth trends in our education business reflect the comparable 2021 period that was impacted by COVID-19 related disruptions as well as robust demand.
And new customer wins in 2022 steps taken earlier in the year to broaden the supply of talent have continued to pay off and we are seeing meaningful improvement in our CD rates.
Permanent placement fees, primarily higher education executive search with Green Asher were up 70% year over year.
Our OCG segment continued to deliver year over year revenue growth with revenues up 16% on a reported basis.
The results of rocket four are included in the OCG results beginning in Q2.
Organic constant currency growth was 7% in the quarter. In addition to look at Bauer OCG delivered very strong organic growth in <unk>, reflecting customer demand for this product as well as double digit growth in our MSP product, partially offset by decline declines in GPU.
As a result of some customer exits in early 2020.
Revenue in our international segment declined 12% on a nominal currency basis and was down 4% on a constant currency basis.
The year over year revenue growth trends were.
It was negatively impacted by results in Mexico due to the impact of the legislation enacted in Q3 of 2021.
Our revenue growth in the EMEA region was positive up 4% in constant currency.
As Peter noted we have completed the collection in July that resulted in the sale of our operations in Russia in early Q3.
Constant currency revenue growth in EMEA, excluding Russia was up 9% year over year for the quarter.
And finally, the permanent placement fees in the international segment grew by 13% year over year in constant currency.
Overall gross profit was up 13, 6% on a reported basis or 15, 6% in constant currency.
Excluding rocket <unk>, and Pts GP increased 12, 5% on an organic constant currency basis.
I will assume growth gross profit growth was the result of an improving gross profit right 27 for the quarter.
Compared to 18, 4% in the second quarter of last year.
230 basis point improvement.
Our acquisition strategy continues to contribute to are we improving GP rate.
The acquisitions of rocket born in Pts added 30 basis points in total in.
In addition, our GP rate has improved 200 basis points organically.
Favorable business mix continues to drive GP rate improvement by 80 basis points and was combined with the impact of 50 basis points coming from higher perm fees as well.
What is 70 basis points, resulting from lower employee related costs and when we look across the business units gross profit rate improved in each segment and organic constant currency gross margin dollars.
Improved in each segment as well, reflecting the continued shift in business mix towards higher margin products and submissions.
SG&A expenses were up 10, 6% year over year on a reported basis and 12, 3% on a constant currency basis expenses for the second quarter of 2022 include the intangible amortization and other operating expenses of rocket power in Pts.
<unk> added 240 basis points to our year over year expense growth rate.
So on an organic constant currency basis expenses grew nine 9% year over year.
Assistant with Q1, the majority of the increase in SG&A reflects higher compensation related expenses for our fulltime tenants. We have continued to add head count in line with revenue growth and providing conventional a performance based incentive compensation for our client facing teams as well as smaller adjustments.
Two baseband.
These increases reflect the impact of inflationary pressure and the need to attract and retain talent in the current environment.
Even with increases in the cost of doing business, we produced additional operating leverage as GP growth exceeded expense growth for the quarter continuing the trend from prior periods.
Also reflected in our earnings from operations in Q2.
Our gain on sale of assets of $4 4 million and $18 5 million impairment charge related to our Russian operations, which were held for sale at the end of the quarter.
The gain on sale of assets relate relates to unveil utilize the real property in this part of our continued efforts to monetize non core assets to redeploy towards growth the.
The impairment charge related to Russia photos, our decision to transition our Russian operations.
The childhood reflects the difference between the carrying value of our Russian subsidiaries and the fair value of such assets in July we completed the transaction to transfer our Russian business, who affirmed in Russia and that will no longer operating there.
Our reported earnings from operations for the second quarter was.
$8 2 million, excluding the gain on asset sales.
And the impairment charge adjusted earnings earnings from operations were $22 3 million compared to the $13 7 million in Q2 of 2021 up more than 60% and reflecting an incremental conversion rate of 27%.
On systems with Q1 of 2022.
Included in our Q2 results the operating earnings of rocket power and Pts of $2 million inclusive of intangible asset amortization.
And just a reminder, that we monetize our investment in personal holdings in most of the vessel APAC transaction in the first quarter of 2022. So there will be no further P&L impact from those investments also has a comparable period year.
Our yards prior periods.
We'll include gains and losses related to those investments until we anniversary these transactions.
Income tax expense for the second quarter was $4 9 million compared with our 2021 income tax benefit of $2 6 million, our effective tax rate for the quarter was 68, 8%.
Adjusted for the Russia impairment charge.
And the gain on sale of assets, our effective tax rate was 17, 9% and.
And finally reported earnings per share for the second quarter of 2022 was <unk> <unk> per share compared to earnings of <unk> 60 per share in 2021.
The decrease in earnings per share resulted primarily from the impact of the impairment charge related to our assets in Russia, and the 2021 gain on peso to shelves all net of tax adjusting for those collections as well as a gain on sale of assets Q2, 2022, EPS was <unk> 40 <unk> 40.
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Compared to adjusted EPS of <unk> 49 per share in Q2 2021 also adjusted pretax income.
Is higher in 2022, adjusted the EPS decline on high yield 2022 tax expense compared to the same period of 2021, our 2021 tax benefit was due primarily to the benefit of a tax charge.
The tax rate change in the UK.
Now moving to the balance sheet as of the end of the second quarter.
Our balance sheet reflects five significant transaction. So far this year that demonstrate our commitment to monetizing noncore assets and relocating kept that to advance our specialty touched.
First in February we completed the sales.
Sale of most of our investment in the peso to the APAC joint venture the sale of our investment in the common shares of vessel holding and the repurchase of class a and B common shares to conclude the cross shareholding arrangement. We spell soon and then we acquired rocket board in mouse and Pts in me.
At the end of Q2 cash totaled 134 million compared to $64 million a year ago, we had no debt consistent with debt at nearly zero at the end of the second quarter of 2021.
With our 300 million and available capacity on our credit facilities, we continue to have ample capital available to deploy.
At the end of Q2 accounts receivable was $1 5 billion and increased 10% year over year, reflecting our year over year increase in revenue as well as an increase in years.
Global DSO was 63 days, an increase of three days over year end 2021, and the second quarter of 2021.
Global DSO increased primarily as a result of an increase in the mix of MSP and other customers with extended payment terms and to a lesser extent due to the timing of customer payments.
Accounts payable and accrued liabilities also increased increased as.
As a result of an increase in MSP supplier payables, partially mitigating the impact of higher DSO on free cash flows.
Through the second quarter of 2020 to use $111 million of free cash flow, reflecting increasing investment in working capital free cash flow. In 2022 also includes the use of approximately $50 million to pay income taxes, resulting from the sale of Basel holdings common stock as well as.
The use of approximately $29 million to repay federal payroll tax balances, which were deferred in 2020 unveiled a <unk> Act.
And now back to you Peter Thanks for those details Olivier.
We're encouraged by on growing ongoing growth in demand and new customer wins across our segments. We expect each of our specialty business units to deliver strategic contributions to this year's performance.
Our P&I segment notwithstanding the top line challenges. We explained showed good SG&A discipline and delivered growth in BP O, which contributed to overall GP improvement in this segment.
In late Q2, we deploy technology upgrades, we've discussed on prior calls and as with most enterprise technology deployments, we anticipate a near term dip in productivity followed by improvements later this year and into the future.
In our <unk> segment, we said, we wanted to see meaningful returns on our inorganic and organic investments are second quarter met that expectation, including nice growth in our telecommunications specialty and we expect meaningful contributions from set for the remainder of 2022 and beyond.
In education, we committed to capture K 12 growth this year improve our fill rates and further expand our adjacencies. We saw improved fill rates across K 12 districts. During the second quarter. We won significant new business that will go live in the second half of the year.
And our acquisition of Pts creates yet another high margin high demand specialty within the education segment.
In OCG, we said, we would invest in our fast growing <unk> business and our first quarter acquisition of rocket power began yielding revenue and GP growth in Q2, our legacy <unk> business also delivered healthy organic growth in the second quarter and some of the sizable MSP wins from 2000.
21 have begun to produce GP in 2022.
And in our International segment, we said, we expected continued growth in regional and local specialties and though it couldn't completely offset the negative impact of Mexico's legislative changes, our EMEA operations continued to deliver top line growth in the second quarter.
These growth strategies, and our five business segments together with our aggressive focus and disciplined use of capital are designed to drive value for Kelly stakeholders in 2022 and beyond to share more about what we expect from year ahead I'll welcome back Olivier. Thank you Peter.
As we reflect on our second quarter results and look ahead.
We expect that even with growing economic uncertainty there wouldn't be a steady demand for our services is way we deal with continuing challenges in finding talent to meet that demand, we expect that inflation in the upward pressure on wages at all skill levels will continue.
There are signs of a more gradual pace of wage growth in the second half of the year in.
And increasing interest rates may put pressure on certain industries as consumers and businesses react to higher rates.
Specific to Kelly they are two unusual events that impact our full year outlook.
First is the early Q3 transaction to sell our Russian operations.
This will reduce 2022 revenues.
<unk> showed its segment and overall for killing by approximately 200 basis points.
<unk> is a change in one of our large customers labor strategy that we mentioned today and on the earlier of course large staffing customer decided to address today.
Today's talent challenges and work with scaling differently by changing its heavy use of contingent labor to one that instead, we'll rely on hiring talent directly as fulltime employees, even with a number of large onsite positions from competition expected into this thing and therefore this year they will not be.
To fully offset the top line impact of this change in these one customer's business.
In addition to the strengthening of the U S dollar against several currencies, including the Euro means that we now expect a more significant negative impact from FX on our reported revenue growth rate.
So with those headwinds, we expect revenue to be up three 5% to 4% on a full year basis in nominal currency.
Included in that outlook is about 150 basis points of inorganic revenue growth from market power and Ptas and and full and favorable 250 basis point impact from the sale of our Russian business and legislative changes in Mexico as well as the.
150 basis point of unfavorable currency impact.
So on a constant currency basis, we are moderating our revenue growth outlook for the full year by 100 to 150 basis points based on current current conditions our.
Outlook assumes no material change in COVID-19 related impacts are significant deterioration in macroeconomic conditions.
While we arent, providing quarterly guidance, we expect Q3 organic revenue growth rate may be slightly lower than our expectation driven by the factors. We have mentioned with improving revenue growth rates in the fourth quarter.
We expect that our fourth quarter growth rate will benefit from a full quarter of revenue growth from our education segment as schools will be in session for the entire quarter as well as well as <unk> touched on that seasonal peak in P&I.
We expect our GPA rate to be around 27%, a 200 basis point improvement from the 18, 7%. We reported for 2021 on a full year basis and includes 20 basis points for the recent 2022 acquisitions.
This is this is a 70 basis point of improvement of our GP rate outlook based on our continued structural improvement in GP rate.
These expectations reflect sustained growth in our fee based business a continued shift to make in mix to higher margin specialties and a more gradual pace of growth in our lower margin specialties.
Given our revenue and GP rate outlook, we expect that our GP dollar growth.
For the full year will be 15%.
We continue to expect increasing SG&A expenses of 8% to 9% on an adjusted organic basis, reflecting growing inflationary pressure in the current environment as well as increases in performance based incentive compensation expenses.
To address the need to attract and retain talent. We are focused on the value of <unk> initiatives.
Part of the equation is ensuring that we remain competitive on compensation for our fulltime tenants. In addition, we continue to focus on technology initiatives that enhance the expense of talent. We place on assignment, we remain committed to improving productivity across all of our business units and ensuring that the investment.
In our talent produce.
A workforce necessary for future growth.
We also expect that our two recent acquisitions rocket four and Pts will add approximately 200 basis points of SG&A expense growth, including the impact of intangible amortization expense.
As we execute our organic and inorganic strategies, we are utilizing adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin as additional measures of our progress in delivering push double growth based on our outlook for 2022, we expect adjusted EBITDA margin to improve to between.
Two four to two 6%.
A 70 to 90 basis points from the one 7% adjusted EBITDA margin delivered in 2021.
And finally, we expect an adjusted effective income tax rate in the low to mid Twenty's lunch, which includes the impact of the work opportunity tax credit, which was which has been extended through 2025.
Our higher expected effective tax rate reflect that impairment charge related to our Russian assets is largely non deductible.
Now back to you Peter Thanks.
Thanks Olivier the first half of 2022, followed a continuing pattern of talent shortages, coupled with strong demand for our services and solutions.
We signaled that this would be a year of bold progress for Kelly and we remain undeterred by the now familiar short term headwinds and economic uncertainty. We are a more nimble proactive company that is willing and able to adapt quickly to market changes guided by a seasoned leadership team wholly committed to Kelly success.
We're confident in our well defined and well capitalized specialization strategy, which continues to improve our business mix J P and net margin and we continue to benefit from our optimized operating model, which focuses our attention firmly on growth.
Our actions have created unprecedented capital to deploy to support that growth and the effectiveness with which we are putting our capital to work signals that Kelly that will take decisive action to drive shareholder value.
We have chosen our specialties wisely, we are pursuing high margin growth, where we know we can win and we are delivering on that growth from acquisitions and organic investments alike, driving significant improvement in GP, while investing in the talent and technology needed to bring Kelly specialty strategy to life.
As we continue to execute our strategy in the second half of the year Kelly is creating value for all of our stakeholders talent clients suppliers and shareholders Art you can now open the call to questions.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask questions. Please press. One then zero on your telephone keypad you may withdraw your question at any time by repeating the one zero command, if you're using a speaker phone. Please pick up the handset before pressing the numbers once again, if you have questions.
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Kartik Mehta with.
North Coast Research your open.
Peter.
Just a question on wage inflation I know Olivier had talked about maybe.
Second half youre, anticipating a little bit less wage inflation I'm wondering if you've seen any changes in wage inflation no today compared to maybe what it was in <unk>.
First quarter, even maybe in June or July .
Yes, good morning, Kartik I'll, let Olivier provide some some support but.
We're seeing I would say a temporary tempering of wage inflation, it's still.
Considerably higher than the norm normal.
But it has moderated somewhat from the beginning of the year.
When you look at.
P&I education, and said clearly when you look at our average wage inflation Q1, moving into Q2 in P&I, we showed deterioration from 12% to 8%. So some start of.
Moving a little bit lower but I would say eight person is still quite elevated for education.
We stopped we don't see any change I mean, it is still around 13% to 14%, so no real change and offsets or our stem business still staying around 8% two 9%. So when we see a little bit of a change is already in P&I and again, it's a change, but it's more like slowing.
Down than any radical change in trend.
And then just.
Looking at your permanent placement business.
In the past when there has been an economic slowdown.
Has that business.
It started to deteriorate or how quickly have companies kind of pooled.
The desire to hire employees, just trying to get a sense of how good of an indicator do you think that might be.
Companies, usually will begin to pull back on permanent hiring win.
They have a lack of confidence in the future.
Notwithstanding the sort of unique situations of the inflation pressures that we see in <unk>.
Raising or rising interest rates.
We still.
Strong permanent placements and across our businesses. So we haven't begun to see the.
Falloff in that.
Area of our business that would indicate a lack of business confidence.
Oh of course.
Q2, when you look at versus last year, while <unk> business is up 38% were up 68% almost 60 to 90 in Q1.
But you need to sing about the fact that it's basically also on higher last year comps right. When you look at the absolute level of fees I would say, it's still moving up a little bit, but flattening, but still very very elevated meaning not really.
Declining at all.
Thank you very much I really appreciate it.
And next we have a line of Mitra <unk> Gopal.
With so Daddy Youre open.
Yes. Good morning, Thanks for taking the questions I was just curious in terms of the challenges you are seeing on.
Talent supply.
If youre having success with the initiatives you introduced earlier this year and your outlook based on the current environment over the remainder of the year and into next.
Well I think the exemplar would be education, where we took steps early in the year to increase our fill rates and as I indicated we're seeing improvement in K 12 districts in Q2, and we expect to continue to see.
Fill rate improvements through the remainder of the year as schools reopen.
So those efforts.
Are well underway and proving to be successful I think in our other businesses. We continue to face unprecedented talent shortages that we are deploying a number of <unk>.
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Good wages and good working conditions, but thats going to be an ongoing process as long as we have here.
Historically.
Low participation rate in the low unemployment rate.
Okay. Thanks, and then given.
Given the rising interest rate environment.
How much of a factor is that in terms of as you look at inorganic opportunities.
Or are you seeing a change in valuations or they're becoming more attractive given day.
Increased cost of capital for films.
Yeah, we think there is going to be a likely.
<unk> pressure on valuations and multiples I can't say that we've seen it yet, but that's likely to have a somewhat of a lag but based on our conversations with.
Bankers and other.
Our investment professionals.
Professionals. They are signaling that there is less of an appetite to.
The leverage in this.
Period of higher interest rates.
Yeah, just probably on our side first of all you know that we still have a good discussion position.
Despite of the multiple acquisitions, while discussing including today.
We have our full capacity to leverage available.
You know as a part of our line of credit is basically.
What we call.
Something that is.
A link to our assets our receivables our securitization so basically although we see some.
Interest rates increase impacting us I would say is the fact that we have this.
Securitization program is helping us to basically gets to interest.
Cause that are I would say completely acceptable for us to continue to move forward on.
Our acquisition strategy.
Okay. Thanks, and then finally as it relates to invest.
Investments, whether it's in personnel and technology, if you can give us a sense of style.
How comfortable you are with Gary on that front or how much more you think you really need to do over the next that we end up this year and also into next.
Well it is a period of.
Wage inflation, not only for our customers, but for for our industry and we need to remain competitive we need to attract and retain.
The critical talent, we need to deliver our services and solutions. So.
We're keeping a close eye on ensuring that we have the investment.
Dollars that we need to achieve that objective I think technology, we have.
Increased our technology investments, but we need to continue to.
Look for ways to improve the efficiency.
Our operations as well as bring additional and new value to our customers with the solutions we're providing.
Okay. Thanks, again for taking the questions.
Thank you.
Next we have Joe Gomes with noble capital your open.
Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions good morning, Johnny.
So just was looking through the the relief.
You know when you start looking at revenues by country, Obviously, Mexico is down we know the reasons for that.
And over in Europe , although EMEA itself.
Ex Russia was op, France was was down about 12, 4%.
Just wondering what might be going on in France is that kind of temporary or is there something else going there to.
To drive that.
Yes, I mean, the first thing I would mention is that when you are referring on a negative $12 four Joe it's basically.
Nominal currency and knowing the.
Current.
FX and basically though the weakness of the euro is fully Baird.
Got it in constant currencies in constant currency I would say flat.
So what we see.
In the in the French market to ease.
The piece of the large part of the French market now is growing is basically our areas, where we are not in a in a with Kelly, France, namely manufacturing automotive that are really.
Basically growing again after that basically a big decline we are more in specialty areas like life science.
And others.
We see a recovery from the I'll take Konami downturn of 2020, but at a lower pace than you might've seen all use in our in our manufacturing automotive and so on.
Okay. Thanks for that and then.
We all know you guys have discussed it.
The challenges on the talent side.
Both getting talent to their customers and retaining your own talent.
But if we put those aside for a second you know what else are the kind of challenges that you're facing today and how are you resolving those.
Well I think on the demand side Joe.
Right.
R R.
Thesis is that with the rising inflation and the.
Interest rate increases a lot of companies are Jay jesting that as well as the likelihood of future interest rate hikes and they're doing so for the first time in a long time in fact, some of the purchasing managers that we deal with have never.
Experienced an inflationary period, so I think there.
Taking stock of it without.
And without reducing significantly the fact that they need talent.
And there is still as we have discussed as you mentioned there is still.
Not enough people in the labor force to satisfy that demand as reflected by.
Even though the number of job openings has come down it's still at historic highs and unemployment is also ticking down so it's a unique environment, but we continue to work with our customers to satisfy their.
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Current.
Solid demand for talent across our segments.
Okay. Thank you.
And then just switching gears for a second over on an education you guys talked about.
Some previous wins this year I was just kind of looking at you know maybe give us a little color on what that kind of the market. There looks like today in terms of customer putting out requests and proposals and you know how you see that maybe playing out for the rest of the year.
Yes.
We've been in the education business, we're celebrating our 20 <unk> year this year.
We don't know.
A year in which there has been stronger demand.
For our services the school districts across the country are struggling with finding instructors.
Retaining instructors educators and so we're seeing unusually strong.
Activity in the education space not only.
With the wins that we have already.
Accomplished in 2022, but also the number of Rfps and other activity in school districts is unusually strong.
And we expect that.
Even this year, we will see the benefit of course from the wins, but also from the ongoing RFP activity.
School districts struggled to meet the demands for educators.
Great. Thanks for that I appreciate it I'll get back in queue alright.
Alright, thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, if there are any additional questions. Please press one then zero.
Once again, if there are any additional questions, perhaps one zero.
And we have Keith <unk> with Barrington Research are open.
Yeah.
Hey, good morning, Im sorry, Kevin we haven't.
Okay.
Kevin Good morning, Kevin.
Hi.
Hi.
So I wanted to.
First off on the guidance make sure I understood correctly.
Going from the 6% to 7% revenue growth to the three and a half to for that.
You are building in 150 basis point headwind went from currency that was not there before and then the 100 to 150.
Moderation in organic growth those are the two.
Components of that that change.
Yeah, I mean, certainly I mean, usually we don't mention any assumption on the FX.
What we have seen especially Q2, giving.
A 200 basis point unfavorable impact.
We were thinking that.
Something with intervention because of course, it is a headwind of <unk> <unk>.
Let me now GAAP revenue growth and we anticipate this kind of situation to continue in the near future.
And and and that's why we mentioned is 150 basis point acquisition, plus 150 basis points very consistent with what we have said three months ago.
Of course, yes.
50 basis points coming from Russia, and Mexico.
You will see especially in Q3 basically the full impact of Russia as well as in Q4, Mexico basically as we are going to anniversary the change in.
Basically the labor legislation, we are going to see in Q3, but to a more a V will extend.
Less of an impact you know end of Q3 and Q4, but of course, we are going to continue to see something we have started to see of course at the final end of Q2, I mean, the impact of Russia.
Okay, Yeah, that's help while I.
I was going to ask about the cadence you know third quarter versus fourth quarter that you had mentioned in the prepared comments and so that that's helpful. But also you mentioned.
Yeah.
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Activity in P&I due to that.
Recent completion of the technology rollout.
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Something we should think about it as being material or.
That you.
We should factor in.
Into the third quarter or.
Just how are you thinking about that.
Well as Olivier mentioned in his prepared remarks on the.
Q3 may be slightly lower than <unk>.
Our full year guidance, but probably the biggest factor there is that Q4 has a full quarter of education.
Versus Q3, which does not because schools down open.
They opened throughout Q3, but in Q4, we have the full benefit.
So while there may be some impact.
In Q3 as well on a full year basis, I think the guidance that Olivier provides taken takes that into account the technology issue.
And I think.
You might have noticed that we have upgraded.
Our GP rate by 70 basis points.
We feel good about that.
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So sorry.
Sorry to 22, 1% to 30 in Houston.
Very similar dynamics Eitan and one interesting one ease of our mix and the fact that the mix and improvement of our specialty mix did improve the.
GP rate.
Bye.
Basis points, the other point I would like to mention our progress in net margin EBITDA margin.
We continue and we have confirmed that our GP net.
Our net margin.
On a percentage.
He is going to move by 70 to 90 basis points, a large majority of that being organic.
And we are on track when you look at Q1, we're at $2 for Q2 two five.
Which is a significant improvement of about 100 basis points in Q1 70 basis points in Q2, and this is something that.
We believe and we are pleased to see that it's on track and I think we are going to continue to make progress.
Also on the net margin as we have seen now full of first thoughtfully.
Yeah.
Yes, absolutely the margin.
Guidance and progress on margin.
It's been impressive here.
It's great to see that.
Aye.
I just wanted to touch on.
Peter you mentioned, a more guarded approach to hiring in some industries that are there any.
The industries in particular that you'd call out or what does it look like.
From a geographic perspective as well.
Some geographies or more guarded.
Than others are.
So how do you kind of comment on industry and geographic mix. There would be helpful. Yes, I think it's less geographic than it is industry. So I'm.
Not the demand for professionals that provide.
Technology services, so not your cyber security experts and code developers network systems architects.
But the technology.
Sector as consumer has been impacted as is widely been.
Shared in the press with.
Certain companies, particularly in California.
Either reducing hiring or.
Even some spotty lay offs, so that industry has been impacted but.
It's.
Probably also reveals itself and as companies anticipate supply chain disruption.
There potentially.
Trying to factor that into their production plans for the future.
But it's it's still a moderating of their plans not a decline.
A decline or.
A lack of.
Demand for talent people are still looking for.
Workers in all of our segments and.
In most cases when they find somebody they will they will hire them as indicated by our continuing.
Strength in permanent placement fees.
Okay, Yeah that's helpful.
You know I just thought that actually you know you.
And the first quarter call you increased your organic.
Growth expectations by 200 basis points and now you've taken it down by 100 to 150, so you're actually still.
Ahead of where you were at the beginning of the year in terms of your organic growth expectations. I guess is that the right way to think about it.
That's completely correct.
I would say one to mention back to P&I.
We have good traction some of pipelining staffing.
With his position of these customers that we have mentioned for the last couple of quarters.
We have the pipeline to really offset these customer but.
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Time to revenue is going to be.
Taking more time than what we had expected so.
It's more I would say its timing issue rather than a.
I would say not the capability of setting this big customer.
Okay understood and then lastly, maybe just talk about.
Next steps for <unk>.
Teaming revenue synergies from.
Rocket power in Pts and maybe any investments associated with that.
Just you know plans as we think about the rest of the year.
Yes, we see we see a lot of synergies in both cases in the case of rocket power, we had no customer overlap.
And we had.
A complementary geographic.
Presence. So we're pleased although the.
Rocket power has joined Kelly only a few months ago, we're very pleased with the progress we've made on our.
Joint go to market strategies and efforts and the introduction of their competency to our existing.
Customers, where we may not have had that same.
Capability in the case of Pts, it's still a bit early but.
We see Pts, there's really strong demand for their services in the.
Geographies that they support and.
We're in a lot of other geographies, where we currently don't provide therapy.
Therapeutic services like Pts does.
No.
While nothing to report today, we think there's considerable upside in that.
Extremely high margin adjacency.
Adjacency to our.
Traditional K 12 business, where we're the market leader in the U S.
Alright, great. Thanks for taking the questions.
Yes, thanks, Kevin Thank you Kevin.
And speakers there are no further questions at this time. Please go ahead with any closing remarks.
Art I think we're good.
You can close the call.
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