Q3 2022 CSP Inc Earnings Call
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the CSP Inc. fiscal third quarter 2022 results conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen only mode and we will open the floor for your questions and comments after the presentation. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Michael Palouvou. Michael, the floor is yours.
Thank you, Tom. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review CSP Inc.'s fiscal third quarter, which ended June 30, 2022. With me on the call today is Victor DeLovo, CSP Inc.'s Chief Executive Officer, and Gary Levine, CSP Inc.'s Chief Financial Officer. After Victor and Gary conclude their opening remarks, we'll then open the call for questions.
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Factors that may affect the company's results include, but are not limited to the risks and uncertainties discussed in the risk factor section of the annual report in Form 10-K . Ian McCoily reports on Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
For the statements are based on the information available at the time those statements are made in management's good faith belief as of the time with respect to future events. All forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by this cautionary statement and CSP Inc. undertakes no obligation to publicly revise or update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise after the date thereof. With that, I'll turn the call over to Victor Delobo, Chief Executive Officer. Victor, please go ahead.
Thanks Michael and good morning everyone. Overall we had a solid fiscal third quarter and I believe our team has adapted to the ongoing supply chain inflationary pressure to generate both short and long term growth in increasing returns to our shareholders.
A technology solution or TS business had another terrific quarter and continues to gain momentum in the marketplace.
While the segment's revenue is relatively flat with year-ago period, the backlog increased to $16 million due to a rising demand for our products and services.
Overall, we recorded net sales of $13.3 million for the quarter, which was slightly below the year-ago level, but represents 11% sequential increase over fiscal 2022 second quarter results.
We achieved this 11% sequential growth despite experiencing very similar macroeconomic events. Services grew 37% compared to a year ago third quarter and was up 30% from fiscal 2022 second quarter. An overall backlog as of June 30th was 20 million and 17.3 million on March 31st, 2022.
A key objective for our team is to continue the migration of CSPI's revenue to high-imagine products and services.
We are executing well to this goal as evidenced by a record gross margin of 37%.
for the fiscal third quarter.
At 37%, the gross margin grew over six full percentage points compared to a year ago gross margin despite relatively flat revenue. The gross margin improve was the chief driver behind the net income for the quarter of seven.
or $0.15 per diluted share. We also benefit from Favoural Currency Exchange, which Gary will review with you in a few moments.
Before I review our business segment, let me take a few minutes to review the challenges that continue to impact our operations.
First of all, the global supply chain pressures moderated in May. They remain at high levels.
For instance, our overall component delivery timelines from our supplies remain the same compared to a fiscal second quarter.
Our suppliers are telling us that we should see some shortening of the timeline, but there isn't much clarity. Our solution to this situation is to focus our revenue generating efforts on higher margin products and services. The strategy has allowed us to build the backlog to record levels. However, our primary objective short term is converting the backlog to revenue. Therefore, we are aggressively seeking other sources for requiring components so they can deliver finished goods.
I'll note that the TS backlog of 60 million is far greater than the revenue we just reported for the entire quarter. We believe this backlog, which continues to grow despite improving revenue conversions, is an unprecedented asset to the company.
My second challenge impacting our business is the pressure being put on our costs by the compassionate forces.
in a tight labor market.
The pressure is leading to increased wages and employee incentives. In certain markets where the unemployment rate is in the 3% range, employment recruitment and retention are a challenge.
And with the increase in work from home policies, we are now competing with out-of-state companies offering well above market wages.
Our technology solution of TS business generated revenue of $12.6 million in the fiscal third quarter, similar to a year ago level. We did achieve a 16% increase in segment revenue over fiscal 2022 second quarter as we were able to convert some of the older backlog to revenue. As I mentioned earlier, approximately 80% of the backlog is in TS. Despite the older backlog conversion, we still grew the backlog for the segment.
by 2 million from the fiscal second quarter.
A managed service practice, or MSP, has been a stellar performer throughout the past couple years as we continue to attract new customers while existing customers expand.
We're finding that many of the companies still have poor cybersecurity practices in place, making them vulnerable to data loss from attacks. These companies are potential CSPI customers as they gradually recognize that they need to make cybersecurity awareness, prevention, and security best practices part of their culture.
Regarding the UCAS business, I believe the incremental sales are getting closer and closer to achieving our goal. While we continue to sign smaller companies, it will take a concerted effort on our part to further educate the market on our solution merits if we want to penetrate this market in a meaningful way. Our success over the years of internally developing award-winning business solutions regarding the cruise ship industry remains.
Quiet for now. However, last month's decision by the Center of Disease Control and Prevention to discontinue its program of tracking cases of COVID-19 aboard
Cruise ships in the US and reporting the findings to the public can only be viewed as favorable if the operators are more open.
to freeing budgets for their services.
Regarding the high performance product or HPP division, we reported revenue of 0.7 million, which was below our object for the quarter. We still maintain a multi-million dollar backlog in HPP as the supply chain issue continues to hinder the division's growth.
Maricopa revenue was lower than expected as...
we expect much of the same in fiscal Q4.
We are also expecting the bulk of the royalty revenue related to E2D program to be recorded in the current quarter as a customer was still in the process of restructuring its business.
for most of Q3.
During the quarter, we announced
Aria Zero Trust Gateway, a next generation network security solution focused on automated 100 gig network response accelerated by the NVIDIA BlueField II DPU.
The release and the webinar we hosted on June 7th generated a very positive response from customers and potential customers.
We believe the interest generated could lead to significant revenue for REF platform as we enter fiscal 2023.
The Ario Zero Trust or AZT Gateway.
is deployed as a compact in-line bump in the wire, standalone network device that will stop attacks without impacting the delivery of other traffic crossing the wire. To do so, the AZT gateway operates by sitting in line with data traffic, analyzing each packet at line rate, creating analytics for threat analysis while enforcing existing standing protection policies, as well as those dynamically rigged to stop detected attacks.
Amy Badani, Vice President of Network at NVIDIA said...
Aria Zero Trust Gateway solves a critical cyber problem for service providers who need a modern approach to protecting their customers' data from attack. We see a lot of value in this product that we can bring to our customers. In addition to the direct sales team, we continue to vet potential partners for the official channel program. As we added a few partners during the quarter, including one in Australia, we continue to speak with several others.
to increase our roster.
which ensures a robust channel program and increases our chances for success.
We also executed some operational efficiencies to right-side the HVP business that had been in the works for some time.
Specifically, we relocated the operations to a smaller space, which resulted in lower rent due to the fact that many of our employees work from home. Additionally, we are managing salaries and wages through some personnel attrition and filling these voids with consultants to ensure that we have the talent to meet our customers' needs.
To summarize, we increased our backlog and recorded
and recorded record gross margins. Our strategy of focusing on higher margin products and services is yielding solid progress each quarter.
Despite converting some of the backlog to revenue, we simultaneously increase the backlog to over $20 million. This demonstrates the strength of our offering, yet it also highlights our continued engagement and customer loyalty during this period since we have not lost a single order from the backlog.
We have successfully transitioned our business during the unprecedented period and today we are an active player in the high growth and margin business.
And we believe we have the resources, the wherewithal, and the strategy to realize our potential.
With that, I will now ask Gary to provide a brief overview on the fiscal dirt court financial performance.
Thanks Victor. As Victor mentioned in his opening remarks, our fiscal third quarter revenue was $13.3 million.
We reported gross profit of $5 million, or 37.3% of sales, compared to $4.2 million, or 30.8% of sales in the year-ago fiscal third quarter.
representing an improvement of over 6 percentage points.
Service revenue grew 37% compared to the year ago third quarter and was up 30% from our second quarter, which is a combination of the growth in MSP as well as a higher ASP.
This resulted in 36% increase in service gross revenue when compared to the prior fiscal year, while the gross margin as a percentage of revenue remained relatively flat.
We reported a decrease in product revenue of $1.7 million compared to the prior year quarter.
Despite this decrease in revenue, we only reported a slight decrease in product gross margin of $100,000.
due to an increase of 3% in product gross margin as a percentage of revenue compared to the year ago third quarter.
Additionally, the product-based backlog will also have a favorable gross margin.
So rest assured we will explore every option to get these shipped to our customers.
Our engineering and development expenses for the fiscal third quarter was at $884,000 compared to $150,000.
compared to $700,000 in the year-ago period.
This increase is primarily due to higher personnel costs, which includes outside consultants.
Our SG&A and expenses in Q3 were $4.1 million, a slight increase compared to the year ago Q3 due to increase in variable compensation.
We reported net income of $684,000 in the fiscal quarter, third quarter,
which is 15 cents per diluted share compared to a net loss of $423,000 or 10 cents loss per share for the fiscal third quarter of fiscal 2021.
The 2022 third quarter reflects
$0.6 million gain from favorable impact of foreign currency rate exchange.
primarily from cash in US dollars and euros in our UK subsidiary.
We ended the fiscal third quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $21.4 million as of June 30, 2022.
which was approximately an increase of $1.4 million from September 30th of 2021.
This was due to an increase in receivable collections.
During the fiscal third quarter, we purchased nearly $7,000 of shares from the Stock Repurchase Program.
We have authorized to buy up to 175,000 shares of CSPI shares of common stock.
We continue to believe that the shares at these levels represent value, especially when you factor in the margin expansion we are generating and the growing backlog.
However, we will continue to exercise prudent expense management to ensure that we have the resources to execute the multi-year growth strategy of transforming to a cybersecurity, wireless and managed service company.
I also want to highlight that the board's decision to restate and declare a quarterly dividend of 3 cents per share payable on September 9th.
2022 to shareholders of record on the close of business on August 22, 2022.
TSPI has always been a shareholder friendly company and while it was prudent to preserve resources during the uncertainty of the past couple of years, we believe returning cash to the shareholder is paramount to this approach.
With that, I will turn it over to the operator to take your questions.
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And we have a question coming from Joseph Nergis from Segrin Investments.
Joseph, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Good morning guys, how you doing today? By the way, right up front. Thanks for the for the dividend. I could start start to pay my bills now with a new dividend. A couple clarifications. One, um,
You reported the backlog in your PR as $23.8 million.
Is that correct or did you refer to 20 million, I heard, on the call here? What's the backlog that you reported?
I mean, I think the PR is $23.8 million.
That's correct. Is that the correct number? Okay. Yes. And one other thing. You mentioned the repurchase of shares.
Is it 7,000 shares you repurchased or $7,000 worth?
7,000 shares. Okay, because I thought you said $7,000. Just a clarification.
Of course, we're still having problems with the backlog.
as we did last quarter. I'm not the backlog, but the delivery. Right, fulfilling them.
Let me go back to a press release of November of last year and that's the one, the order for the 1.8 million order for a...
for the High Performance Product Group, the area product for, I guess, it's a national intelligence agency.
And in that PR, at least it was mentioned, the possibility
of delivering that in the second half of
Is that still on or in other words, I realized that you know if it falls into the October quarter we're into the next next fiscal year but is that delivery still look like we could possibly get it in this year sometime?
No. No. It'll be in October and it'll be in the first quarter. Well, as I said, calendar will be in the calendar year, but in the next fiscal year, the first quarter...
In October December quarter
Correct. Well at least, so that's meeting the goal was the sometime second half of 2022. Has there been any, on managed services, are there any particular services that are strengthened, we have a lot of different services we offer, is there any particular services that are, or is it scattering, are we getting a lot of new business on a different, different?
scale of the services. It varies, it varies Joe. It could be manage firewalls, it could be desktop support, it could be, you know, a lot of it's been
switching and Wi-Fi.
Okay. Support. So, you know, ultimate goal is to get it all, but, you know, we go piece by piece if we have to.
your the you cast business the you know the Cisco you you cast business is that where some of the problems are delivering the phones and no no no that
The phones, we can get them fairly available.
It's all the gears, all the switching, firewalls, across every manufacturer. Right now they quote anywhere from...
Best scenario, six months, realistically a year.
Okay.
on the
I'm the Zero Trust webinar you guys did with Nvidia. I mean if you go to the website.
you know, from where I'm sitting, our software almost fits like a glove into that.
Bluefield platform that the video is introducing. I'm just wondering if you're saying that you've got some interested people or at least prospects in that area. What do we need to do there to get the prospect we need to?
test them, beta test it or where we at with the prospects, let's put it that way. I know it's only been two months since you did the webinar, so. Yeah, the customers that we're talking to are very, very large. So it takes time, you know, they don't move fast at all, as you know. So we're just, it's getting specced in, making sure we can, you know, fit the need. Then it becomes, you know, RFPs and, you know, it's.
We're moving as fast as we can, I promise you that.
and very large customers. We were talking about cloud-based customers and data centers is what you're, at least in the webinar was.
Yeah. You're utilizing those particular two particular areas that you're working for.
And of course on the money front, I assume that we're...
We're making a little bit more return on the cash that we have in the bank. You know, you can get...
three month treasuries, say, and six month treasuries close to three percent. So are we managing some of that? Are we putting more, getting a little more money for our cash in the bank, Gary? Yes, we are. Yeah, we are. We have been managing that very closely and moving up where we have the opportunities. Absolutely.
Okay, that's all I have right now. It seems like we're moving forward. I don't know what we can do about it.
supply channel, but at least hopefully it'll loosen up a little by little going down the road. But thanks a lot again guys. Appreciate it.
Thank you.
And the next question is coming from Brett Davidson.
Brett, your line is live. Please go ahead.
Good morning.
I have just a couple of quick questions.
One of them is that 4 million HPP backlog, if you guys had the components, would you be able to ship that tomorrow?
Yes. Yep.
Got it.
Interesting.
The other thing I wanted to...
to touch on is...
Have you guys looked into buying talent? Has there been any
any investigation into merger goblin
gobbling up a smaller competitor to tack on talent that way.
Yes, we've looked at, you know.
A lot of different avenues of different companies.
but just either it's pricing or just the integration doesn't make sense.
It's not a creative.
Yeah, the only other comment I have is
I like the dividend at the level it came out. I think that makes a lot of sense at this point.
I think it still leaves you guys enough to continue to increase the
the cash balance and kind of starts kicking a little reward for shareholders into play here and you know Joe wouldn't have to worry about paying his bills going to Paris. Yeah.
Exactly, exactly.
But yeah, well, that's pretty much all I got. So you guys take care and we'll talk to you. Nice hearing from you. OK, take care, Brett.
Bye bye. Thank you.
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And we do have a question from Will Louver from Visionary Wealth Advisors. Will your line of life please go ahead?
Yes, if we didn't have the supply chain issues.
What do you think the kind of a.
normal backlog would be by division.
It probably...
4 million.
Give or take.
That's all in total.
Yeah, it's four to five million probably. Those were the normal run rates for years before this occurred.
Okay, so have the pace of the orders increased at all?
The pace of the orders in the business, it's unpredictable on when customers going to actually cut purchases. A lot of stuff happens towards the end of the quarter where, as you know, manufacturers will lower their price and customers usually can get a better deal. So you always see things happening towards the end of each quarter. But I think it's been a consistent flow. I wouldn't say, you know, we're trying to push customers to think ahead.
just because, you know, unfortunately budgets move from year to year and they're like, well, how do I spend dollars today, but it's going to move over to, you know, the following year before I get the product. So there's a lot of those conversations happening within, you know, organizations and that kind of sometimes speeds things up and sometimes it slows it down, just depending on how they can, you know, spend the budget with getting gear and paying for things literally a year later.
So I would say it's consistent over the last 12 months. You know, some customers are moving a lot faster and some are just dragging just due to budgets and how they fall into the current year.
I guess what I was referring to is before supply chain problems were...
a big issue.
Yeah, you know, under normal circumstances, you know, the longest you would wait is three months and that was, you know, pretty unheard of. Mostly everything was within 30 to 60 days. 90 days was really pushing it. Now if you get anything within 90 days, that's amazing to, you know, six months and under right now, that's, I would say is fast. But most manufacturers, they just say one year. And then when things...
you know, come in a little sooner, and in some cases it's literally a year.
The stuff that we've been waiting for HPP, they said a year and it's going to be a year.
Okay, so what I'm just trying to get an idea of if we did not have supply chain problems, kind of what the…
potential kind of earnings go rate as well as revenue rate would be. Do you guys comment on that at all?
Well, it certainly would be expanded from that. We'd be drawing off that. But in the HPP division, at least under the cybersecurity products, the selling cycles are long, much longer than we first envisioned. But it's just the nature of the market.
Because there's a lot of competition and there's a lot of comparisons. So it takes quite a while for the mid-market people to really.
and there's a lot of comparisons, so it takes quite a while for the mid-market people to really—
But the backlog, as you know, as we mentioned, the HPPs, 4 million, and those margins are quite high. So you can kind of just do a calculation. Those are somewhere between 50 and 65%.
So you could just, just that piece alone, you could kind of figure out what would hit the bottom line.
if we could just ship that piece of it.
Okay, all right, well thank you very much.
Thanks. Well, yeah, take it easy.
Thank you.
And there are no further questions in queue at this time. This will conclude the Q&A session for today, and I would now like to turn the floor back to Victor Delovo for closing remarks.
Thank you. As always, I want to thank our shareholders for your continuing interest and support. A record gross margin demonstrates the success effort to sell higher margin products and services.
While the growing in the record backlog highlights the high demand for these same products and services, we remain committed to growing the business and we believe our backlog represents a substantial undervalued asset.
However, we are exploring every alternative to procure components and deliver finished goods to our customers so we can convert the backlog to revenue and profit.
Gary and I look forward to sharing our progress in fiscal 2022 full year operating results in December . Until then, be well, stay safe.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.