Q2 2022 Eledon Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call
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Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Eledon Pharmaceuticals Q2 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is recorded today, 11 August 2022. I now would like to turn the conference over to Paul Little, Chief Financial Officer of Eledon Pharmaceuticals. Please go ahead, sir.
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Eledon Pharmaceuticals Q2 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is recorded today, 11 August 2022. I now would like to turn the conference over to Paul Little, Chief Financial Officer of Eledon Pharmaceuticals. Please go ahead, sir.
Greetings and welcome to the <unk> Pharmaceuticals second quarter financial results Conference call.
At this time all participants are in a listen only mode.
A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.
As a reminder, this conference calls we recorded today August 11, 2022, I now would like to teleconference over to Paul Little Chief Financial Officer of valid on please go ahead Sir.
Paul Little: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Eledon's Q2 2022 operating and financial results conference call. I am joined on today's call by David-Alexandre Gros, Chief Executive Officer, and Jeff Bornstein, Chief Medical Officer. Steven Perrin, our President and Chief Scientific Officer, will not be joining today's call because he is attending a funeral. Earlier today, Eledon issued a press release announcing financial results for the second quarter ended 30 June 2022. You may access the release under the Investors tab on our company's website at eledon.com. I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this conference call relating to Eledon's expected future performance, future business prospects, or future events or plans may include forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Paul Little: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Eledon's Q2 2022 operating and financial results conference call. I am joined on today's call by David-Alexandre Gros, Chief Executive Officer, and Jeff Bornstein, Chief Medical Officer. Steven Perrin, our President and Chief Scientific Officer, will not be joining today's call because he is attending a funeral. Earlier today, Eledon issued a press release announcing financial results for the second quarter ended 30 June 2022. You may access the release under the Investors tab on our company's website at eledon.com. I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this conference call relating to Eledon's expected future performance, future business prospects, or future events or plans may include forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
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I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this conference call relating to <unk> expected future performance future business prospects or future events or plans may include forward looking statements as defined under the private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1095.
Paul Little: All such forward-looking statements are intended to be subject to the safe harbor protection provided by the Reform Act. Actual outcomes and results could differ materially from these forecasts due to the impact of many factors beyond the control of Eledon. Eledon expressly disclaims any duty to provide updates to its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Participants are directed to the risk factors set forth in Eledon's reports filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, I would like to pass the call to Eledon's CEO, Dr. David-Alexandre Gros. D.A.
Paul Little: All such forward-looking statements are intended to be subject to the safe harbor protection provided by the Reform Act. Actual outcomes and results could differ materially from these forecasts due to the impact of many factors beyond the control of Eledon. Eledon expressly disclaims any duty to provide updates to its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Participants are directed to the risk factors set forth in Eledon's reports filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, I would like to pass the call to Eledon's CEO, Dr. David-Alexandre Gros. D.A.
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David-Alexandre Gros: Thank you, Paul, and thank you all for joining the call today. Q2 marked the beginning of an exciting period for Eledon as we reported the first of four distinct clinical readouts from our tegoprubart pipeline with positive phase 2A results in ALS. This year, we have been focused on execution across the four clinical trials: kidney transplantation, ALS, IgA nephropathy or IgAN, and islet cell transplantation. I'm very encouraged by the progress we have made in each of these areas. In renal transplantation, we recently announced the first patient dose in a phase 1B open label study of tegoprubart in Canada, United Kingdom, and Australia. We look forward to the continued enrollment of this study through the remainder of the year.
David-Alexandre Gros: Thank you, Paul, and thank you all for joining the call today. Q2 marked the beginning of an exciting period for Eledon as we reported the first of four distinct clinical readouts from our tegoprubart pipeline with positive phase 2A results in ALS. This year, we have been focused on execution across the four clinical trials: kidney transplantation, ALS, IgA nephropathy or IgAN, and islet cell transplantation. I'm very encouraged by the progress we have made in each of these areas. In renal transplantation, we recently announced the first patient dose in a phase 1B open label study of tegoprubart in Canada, United Kingdom, and Australia. We look forward to the continued enrollment of this study through the remainder of the year.
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David-Alexandre Gros: Based on the timing of our first patient enrolled, we aim to provide initial 3- and 6-month open label data across available transplant participants in Q1 2023. Additionally, we announced the FDA has cleared Eledon's investigational new drug application or IND application for a larger controlled phase 2A trial of tegoprubart for the prevention of organ rejection in patients receiving a kidney transplant, thereby allowing us to expand our development efforts for this important indication into the United States. Jeff will go into the trial design in more detail, but I'll note that this will be a superiority study versus standard of care with calcineurin inhibitors or CNIs. As I mentioned, we were excited to report positive top-line data in a phase 2A study of tegoprubart in adults with ALS in May.
David-Alexandre Gros: Based on the timing of our first patient enrolled, we aim to provide initial 3- and 6-month open label data across available transplant participants in Q1 2023. Additionally, we announced the FDA has cleared Eledon's investigational new drug application or IND application for a larger controlled phase 2A trial of tegoprubart for the prevention of organ rejection in patients receiving a kidney transplant, thereby allowing us to expand our development efforts for this important indication into the United States. Jeff will go into the trial design in more detail, but I'll note that this will be a superiority study versus standard of care with calcineurin inhibitors or CNIs. As I mentioned, we were excited to report positive top-line data in a phase 2A study of tegoprubart in adults with ALS in May.
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David-Alexandre Gros: Tegoprubart not only successfully met the primary endpoint of safety and tolerability, but showed dose-dependent target engagement and a level of reduction in proinflammatory biomarkers associated with a trend in slowing down of disease progression as measured by ALSFRS slope. Additionally, we observed a reduction in a number of biomarkers also associated with both IgAN and kidney allograft transplant rejection, which we believe provides significant validation of tegoprubart's broad therapeutic potential. With an eye to further progressing ALS clinical development, we will be working with opinion leaders, the patient community, and regulators on potential next steps, as well as looking at different approaches to fund a potential future trial. Next, our phase 2A study of tegoprubart in adults with an IgAN continues to enroll, and we're expanding the enrollment landscape from our current 9 countries with 17 sites into another 3 additional countries, including the United States and China.
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David-Alexandre Gros: Based on the enrollment progress to date, we expect to fully enroll the high-dose cohort in H1 2023. Our goal is to provide meaningful insights into tegoprubart's clinical activity after 24 weeks of therapy in this indication, and we thus anticipate reporting initial six-month open label data from this study in Q1 2023. Turning to islet cell transplantation. In June, tegoprubart was granted Orphan Drug Designation by the FDA for the prevention of allograft rejection in pancreatic islet cell transplantation. This represents a significant regulatory milestone for this program as we plan to open a clinical site at the University of Chicago in the coming month. We believe that this will be a major catalyst in the enrollment process going forward.
David-Alexandre Gros: Based on the enrollment progress to date, we expect to fully enroll the high-dose cohort in H1 2023. Our goal is to provide meaningful insights into tegoprubart's clinical activity after 24 weeks of therapy in this indication, and we thus anticipate reporting initial six-month open label data from this study in Q1 2023. Turning to islet cell transplantation. In June, tegoprubart was granted Orphan Drug Designation by the FDA for the prevention of allograft rejection in pancreatic islet cell transplantation. This represents a significant regulatory milestone for this program as we plan to open a clinical site at the University of Chicago in the coming month. We believe that this will be a major catalyst in the enrollment process going forward.
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David-Alexandre Gros: With the planned opening of the Chicago clinical site. In order to more efficiently focus our resources, we made the decision to close the existing clinical site in Alberta, Canada. We believe the new clinical site in Chicago will be sufficient to enroll the study of up to six participants with type 1 diabetes, and we anticipate reporting initial 3-month open label data from this study in Q1 2023. I'll now turn over the call to Jeff Bornstein, our Chief Medical Officer, to provide additional details on our development program. Jeff?
David-Alexandre Gros: With the planned opening of the Chicago clinical site. In order to more efficiently focus our resources, we made the decision to close the existing clinical site in Alberta, Canada. We believe the new clinical site in Chicago will be sufficient to enroll the study of up to six participants with type 1 diabetes, and we anticipate reporting initial 3-month open label data from this study in Q1 2023. I'll now turn over the call to Jeff Bornstein, our Chief Medical Officer, to provide additional details on our development program. Jeff?
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Jeff Bornstein: Thank you, D.A. I'd like to begin by discussing our recent kidney transplant efforts. The cornerstone for the prevention of transplant rejection is the utilization of CNIs, even though CNIs are associated with significant side effects, including beta cell toxicity causing new onset diabetes, neurotoxicity causing neurological symptoms including tremors and decreased cognitive function, as well as an increased risk of heart disease. Additionally, the chronic utilization of CNIs to prevent graft rejection has been associated with significant nephrotoxicity, which can impair graft function and even shorten graft survival in the same organs those CNIs are being taken to protect. By improving the safety and tolerability of first-line immunosuppression, Tegoprubart has the potential to both improve patient quality of life and reduce overall morbidity in the near term, as well as ultimately improve graft survival rates in the long term.
Jeff Bornstein: Thank you, D.A. I'd like to begin by discussing our recent kidney transplant efforts. The cornerstone for the prevention of transplant rejection is the utilization of CNIs, even though CNIs are associated with significant side effects, including beta cell toxicity causing new onset diabetes, neurotoxicity causing neurological symptoms including tremors and decreased cognitive function, as well as an increased risk of heart disease.
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Jeff Bornstein: We are particularly enthused about our kidney transplant efforts because of the large amount of non-human primate data generated both by ourselves with tegoprubart as well as with historic anti-CD40 ligand antibodies. In these studies, non-human primates treated with anti-CD40 ligand antibodies as monotherapy demonstrated protection from rejection for months at a time, versus only days in untreated animals. As D.A. mentioned, we recently dosed the first patient in our phase 1b clinical trial of tegoprubart in kidney transplantation. This 52-week open label study with sites in Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia is enrolling up to 12 patients undergoing renal transplant, with primary endpoints of safety and pharmacokinetics, as well as exploratory endpoints, including biopsy-proven acute rejection, change in eGFR, and biomarkers of inflammation and kidney rejection.
Jeff Bornstein: We are particularly enthused about our kidney transplant efforts because of the large amount of non-human primate data generated both by ourselves with tegoprubart as well as with historic anti-CD40 ligand antibodies. In these studies, non-human primates treated with anti-CD40 ligand antibodies as monotherapy demonstrated protection from rejection for months at a time, versus only days in untreated animals. As D.A. mentioned, we recently dosed the first patient in our phase 1b clinical trial of tegoprubart in kidney transplantation. This 52-week open label study with sites in Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia is enrolling up to 12 patients undergoing renal transplant, with primary endpoints of safety and pharmacokinetics, as well as exploratory endpoints, including biopsy-proven acute rejection, change in eGFR, and biomarkers of inflammation and kidney rejection.
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Jeff Bornstein: Our goal is to demonstrate that tegoprubart can be safely utilized to replace CNIs as part of first-line immunosuppressive therapy in solid organ transplantation, and prevent acute and long-term solid organ transplant rejection without the use of CNIs. With enrollment ongoing, we aim to provide initial 3-month and 6-month open label data across multiple transplant participants in Q1 2023. These time points are relevant since acute rejection most often occurs within the first 90 days of the transplant, and new onset diabetes post-transplant often begin to be seen at 6 months. In addition, we were pleased to recently announce a regulatory milestone with the clearance of tegoprubart's US IND application to evaluate tegoprubart for the prevention of rejection in kidney transplant recipients.
Jeff Bornstein: Our goal is to demonstrate that tegoprubart can be safely utilized to replace CNIs as part of first-line immunosuppressive therapy in solid organ transplantation, and prevent acute and long-term solid organ transplant rejection without the use of CNIs. With enrollment ongoing, we aim to provide initial 3-month and 6-month open label data across multiple transplant participants in Q1 2023. These time points are relevant since acute rejection most often occurs within the first 90 days of the transplant, and new onset diabetes post-transplant often begin to be seen at 6 months. In addition, we were pleased to recently announce a regulatory milestone with the clearance of tegoprubart's US IND application to evaluate tegoprubart for the prevention of rejection in kidney transplant recipients.
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Jeff Bornstein: The IND opening phase 2 study will be a multicenter, open label, 2-arm, active comparator safety pharmacokinetic and efficacy study that will enroll approximately 120 participants, 50 per arm, undergoing kidney transplants. Participants will receive tegoprubart or the active comparator tacrolimus as part of an immunosuppressive regimen, including corticosteroids and mycophenolate mofetil or mycophenolate sodium. The study's primary objective is to assess whether graft function at 12 months post-transplant in tegoprubart-treated participants is superior to tacrolimus-treated participants. The primary endpoint will compare the mean estimated glomerular filtration rate, eGFR, at 12 months for tegoprubart versus current standard of care. Graft function, as assessed by eGFR at 12 months post-transplant, is associated independently with subsequent graft failure.
Jeff Bornstein: The IND opening phase 2 study will be a multicenter, open label, 2-arm, active comparator safety pharmacokinetic and efficacy study that will enroll approximately 120 participants, 50 per arm, undergoing kidney transplants. Participants will receive tegoprubart or the active comparator tacrolimus as part of an immunosuppressive regimen, including corticosteroids and mycophenolate mofetil or mycophenolate sodium. The study's primary objective is to assess whether graft function at 12 months post-transplant in tegoprubart-treated participants is superior to tacrolimus-treated participants. The primary endpoint will compare the mean estimated glomerular filtration rate, eGFR, at 12 months for tegoprubart versus current standard of care. Graft function, as assessed by eGFR at 12 months post-transplant, is associated independently with subsequent graft failure.
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Jeff Bornstein: GFR has been established as an indicator of kidney function in both pre- and post-transplant patients, and lower levels are associated with need for dialysis and transplantation or retransplantation. Secondary objectives include safety, incidence of new onset diabetes, biopsy-proven acute rejection, and graft survival. We will provide further information on the timing of this study later this year. Of note, the phase 2 program includes an open-label extension study allowing for the collection of long-term efficacy and safety from both this study as well as the ongoing phase 1 B study. We expect to run both the phase 1 B and the phase 2 studies in parallel so we can continue to report data and insights on tegoprubart from the phase 1 B study while the phase 2 is running.
Jeff Bornstein: GFR has been established as an indicator of kidney function in both pre- and post-transplant patients, and lower levels are associated with need for dialysis and transplantation or retransplantation. Secondary objectives include safety, incidence of new onset diabetes, biopsy-proven acute rejection, and graft survival. We will provide further information on the timing of this study later this year. Of note, the phase 2 program includes an open-label extension study allowing for the collection of long-term efficacy and safety from both this study as well as the ongoing phase 1 B study. We expect to run both the phase 1 B and the phase 2 studies in parallel so we can continue to report data and insights on tegoprubart from the phase 1 B study while the phase 2 is running.
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Jeff Bornstein: Next, I'll move on to ALS and recap the positive top-line data we announced from our Phase 2a trial evaluating tegoprubart in ALS. This was a significant milestone for Eledon as it demonstrated the safety and tolerability of tegoprubart, provided insights into the role and potential impact of tegoprubart in ALS, and also helped furnish some potential read-throughs for tegoprubart to other indications with overlapping biomarkers. The study was an open-label, multiple ascending dose study that sequentially evaluated 1 milligram per kilogram, 2 milligrams per kilogram, 4 milligrams per kilogram, and 8 milligrams per kilogram of tegoprubart administered every two weeks via IV infusion for a total of six infusions.
Jeff Bornstein: Next, I'll move on to ALS and recap the positive top-line data we announced from our Phase 2a trial evaluating tegoprubart in ALS. This was a significant milestone for Eledon as it demonstrated the safety and tolerability of tegoprubart, provided insights into the role and potential impact of tegoprubart in ALS, and also helped furnish some potential read-throughs for tegoprubart to other indications with overlapping biomarkers. The study was an open-label, multiple ascending dose study that sequentially evaluated 1 milligram per kilogram, 2 milligrams per kilogram, 4 milligrams per kilogram, and 8 milligrams per kilogram of tegoprubart administered every two weeks via IV infusion for a total of six infusions.
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Jeff Bornstein: The data showed that tegoprubart successfully met the primary endpoint of safety and tolerability, with no serious or severe adverse events related to study drug and adverse events being generally consistent with what is expected in a population of ALS participants. Importantly, there were no signs of platelet activation or thrombosis in the participants, and anti-drug antibodies were present in less than 5% of samples, all of which were of low titer and did not impact tegoprubart drug levels. Tegoprubart target engagement, as measured by a statistically significant reduction in CD40 ligand, a marker of T cell activity, and CXCL13, a marker of B cell activity, was achieved in a dose-dependent fashion, with the largest mean reductions occurring in the two higher dose cohorts. In addition, we also observed an increase in the percentage of participants who showed a reduced level of these biomarkers in a dose-dependent manner.
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Jeff Bornstein: Prior to launching the trial, we identified six proinflammatory proteins that have been described in the literature to be elevated in people with ALS, including TNF-alpha, MCP-1, IL-6, IL-1, RAGE, and CRP. We were highly encouraged to see significant reductions in four of the six of these proinflammatory markers, including TNF-alpha, MCP-1, RAGE, and CRP. In addition to these ALS-associated biomarkers, we observed a total reduction in 23 of the 32 proinflammatory proteins we detected, including myeloid markers CXCL9 and CXCL10, as well as complement C3 and the B cell markers IgA, IgE, and IgM. These additional biomarkers are of note since they play an important role in our other disease programs. IgA, C3, and CD40 ligand have been associated with disease progression and proteinuria in patients with IgAN, while CXCL9, CXCL10, IgM, and C3 have been associated with kidney transplant rejection.
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Jeff Bornstein: This global study is a 96-week open label trial that will include 42 total participants in high dose and a low dose cohort. The primary endpoint is change in the urinary protein to creatinine ratio, or UPCR, at week 24. Secondary endpoints include change in estimated glomerular filtration rate at week 96, as well as safety and tolerability. Based on enrollment trends to date, we anticipate fully enrolling the first cohort of this study in H1 2023. We believe it is important to accumulate 24 weeks of clinical data across multiple patients in this indication in order to properly evaluate tegoprubart's potential. Therefore, we anticipate reporting initial 6-month open label data from this study late in Q1 2023.
Jeff Bornstein: This global study is a 96-week open label trial that will include 42 total participants in high dose and a low dose cohort. The primary endpoint is change in the urinary protein to creatinine ratio, or UPCR, at week 24. Secondary endpoints include change in estimated glomerular filtration rate at week 96, as well as safety and tolerability. Based on enrollment trends to date, we anticipate fully enrolling the first cohort of this study in H1 2023. We believe it is important to accumulate 24 weeks of clinical data across multiple patients in this indication in order to properly evaluate tegoprubart's potential. Therefore, we anticipate reporting initial 6-month open label data from this study late in Q1 2023.
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Jeff Bornstein: I'll wrap up my update by turning to islet cell transplantation and our phase 2A trial for the prevention of allograft rejection, where we are about to open our US site at the University of Chicago. We believe this new site will be a critical step to jumpstart the enrollment process of this study by allowing us to concentrate resources and close our Canadian site. A key advantage of the Chicago site is its focus on these novel types of approaches, since islet cell transplantation is considered experimental in the United States, and we are confident that the new clinical site in Chicago will be sufficient to enroll the study of up to 6 participants. This site will be actively screening for type 1 diabetic patients with hypoglycemic unawareness who experience significant swings in glucose levels that are associated with serious risks and comorbidities.
Jeff Bornstein: I'll wrap up my update by turning to islet cell transplantation and our phase 2A trial for the prevention of allograft rejection, where we are about to open our US site at the University of Chicago. We believe this new site will be a critical step to jumpstart the enrollment process of this study by allowing us to concentrate resources and close our Canadian site. A key advantage of the Chicago site is its focus on these novel types of approaches, since islet cell transplantation is considered experimental in the United States, and we are confident that the new clinical site in Chicago will be sufficient to enroll the study of up to 6 participants. This site will be actively screening for type 1 diabetic patients with hypoglycemic unawareness who experience significant swings in glucose levels that are associated with serious risks and comorbidities.
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Jeff Bornstein: Our goal is to evaluate tegoprubart as the backbone of maintenance anti-rejection therapy similar to the design for kidney transplantation. In ICT specifically, we are also evaluating the ability of patients to achieve insulin independence, as well as the number of islet cell transplants required to achieve independence. We believe that by removing CNIs, which are directly toxic to the islet cells, and replacing with tegoprubart, more patients may be able to achieve better glycemic control with fewer islet cell transplants. With the opening of our first US site, we are looking to enroll the first patients in the phase 2a islet cell transplantation trial and aim to provide available three-month data in Q1 2023. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Paul for a financial update.
Jeff Bornstein: Our goal is to evaluate tegoprubart as the backbone of maintenance anti-rejection therapy similar to the design for kidney transplantation. In ICT specifically, we are also evaluating the ability of patients to achieve insulin independence, as well as the number of islet cell transplants required to achieve independence. We believe that by removing CNIs, which are directly toxic to the islet cells, and replacing with tegoprubart, more patients may be able to achieve better glycemic control with fewer islet cell transplants. With the opening of our first US site, we are looking to enroll the first patients in the phase 2a islet cell transplantation trial and aim to provide available three-month data in Q1 2023. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Paul for a financial update.
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With that I'll now turn the call over to Paul for our financial update.
Paul Little: Thank you, Jeff. In addition to the financial results summarized in our press release, you can find additional information in our Form 10-Q, which we will file later today. The company reported a net loss of $9.2 million, or $0.65 per share for the three months ended 30 June 2022, compared to a net loss of $7.4 million, or $0.50 for the same period in 2021. Research and development expenses were $5.7 million for the three months ended 30 June 2022, compared to $4.2 million for the comparable period in 2021, which was an increase of $1.5 million.
Paul Little: Thank you, Jeff. In addition to the financial results summarized in our press release, you can find additional information in our Form 10-Q, which we will file later today. The company reported a net loss of $9.2 million, or $0.65 per share for the three months ended 30 June 2022, compared to a net loss of $7.4 million, or $0.50 for the same period in 2021. Research and development expenses were $5.7 million for the three months ended 30 June 2022, compared to $4.2 million for the comparable period in 2021, which was an increase of $1.5 million.
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Paul Little: The increase was primarily due to an increase in clinical development costs of $600,000, primarily with external CROs as we advance our tegoprubart programs, and an increase in consulting expenses of $800,000, as well as personnel costs of $200,000 due to an increase in headcount and stock-based compensation costs. G&A expenses were $3.5 million for the three months ended 30 June 2022, compared to $3.7 million for the comparable period in 2021, a decrease of $200,000. Looking at the cost side of our business, we continue to remain diligent in the control of our discretionary spending, and this reduction in year-over-year G&A spend is a reflection of these ongoing efforts.
Paul Little: The increase was primarily due to an increase in clinical development costs of $600,000, primarily with external CROs as we advance our tegoprubart programs, and an increase in consulting expenses of $800,000, as well as personnel costs of $200,000 due to an increase in headcount and stock-based compensation costs. G&A expenses were $3.5 million for the three months ended 30 June 2022, compared to $3.7 million for the comparable period in 2021, a decrease of $200,000. Looking at the cost side of our business, we continue to remain diligent in the control of our discretionary spending, and this reduction in year-over-year G&A spend is a reflection of these ongoing efforts.
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Paul Little: As of 30 June 2022, Eledon had $70.5 million in cash and cash equivalents, which we expect to be sufficient to fund our clinical trial operations as currently planned into 2024. Our cash runway allows us to initiate the phase 2 trial of tegoprubart for the prevention of organ rejection in patients receiving a kidney transplant, but additional financing will be required to fund any future ALS clinical trials. With that financial update, let me turn the call back over to DA.
Paul Little: As of 30 June 2022, Eledon had $70.5 million in cash and cash equivalents, which we expect to be sufficient to fund our clinical trial operations as currently planned into 2024. Our cash runway allows us to initiate the phase 2 trial of tegoprubart for the prevention of organ rejection in patients receiving a kidney transplant, but additional financing will be required to fund any future ALS clinical trials. With that financial update, let me turn the call back over to DA.
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David-Alexandre Gros: Thanks, Paul. As we discussed today, we are encouraged by the progress we made this quarter throughout our pipeline, and we are excited to continue the positive momentum generated in the H1 of this year. We believe the first of our four tegoprubart clinical readouts demonstrated not only the potential to treat ALS, but also a broader range of inflammation-related indications by targeting the CD40 ligand pathway. Through the remainder of the year, we will be focused on enrollment across our three ongoing trials, as well as preparing for the launch of our larger phase 2 kidney transplantation study. We look forward to providing meaningful data updates for each program starting in Q1 2023. I'll now ask the operator to begin our Q&A session. Operator?
David-Alexandre Gros: Thanks, Paul. As we discussed today, we are encouraged by the progress we made this quarter throughout our pipeline, and we are excited to continue the positive momentum generated in the H1 of this year. We believe the first of our four tegoprubart clinical readouts demonstrated not only the potential to treat ALS, but also a broader range of inflammation-related indications by targeting the CD40 ligand pathway. Through the remainder of the year, we will be focused on enrollment across our three ongoing trials, as well as preparing for the launch of our larger phase 2 kidney transplantation study. We look forward to providing meaningful data updates for each program starting in Q1 2023. I'll now ask the operator to begin our Q&A session. Operator?
Thanks, Paul.
As we discussed today, we are encouraged by the progress we made this quarter throughout our pipeline and we are excited to continue the positive momentum generated in the first half of this year.
We believe the first of our <unk> clinical readouts demonstrated not only the potential to treat ALS, but also a broader range of inflammation related indications by targeting the CD 40 ligand pathway.
Through the remainder of the year, we will be focused on enrollment across our three ongoing trials as well as preparing for the launch of our larger phase II kidney transplantation study.
We look forward to providing meaningful data updates for each program starting in the first quarter of 2023.
I'll now ask the operator to begin our Q&A session operator.
Operator: Yes, thank you. At this time, we will begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. The first question comes from Thomas Smith with SVB Securities.
Operator: Yes, thank you. At this time, we will begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. The first question comes from Thomas Smith with SVB Securities.
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And the first question comes from Thomas Smith with SPP Securities.
Thomas Smith: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Just I guess first on the updated data timelines, you know, I understand there are a lot of moving parts here, but can you provide any thoughts on how many patients we can expect to see across each of these initial data sets in Q1 2023?
Thomas Smith: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Just I guess first on the updated data timelines, you know, I understand there are a lot of moving parts here, but can you provide any thoughts on how many patients we can expect to see across each of these initial data sets in Q1 2023?
Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for.
Taking the questions just I guess first on.
The updated data timelines I understand there are a lot of moving parts here, but can you provide any thoughts on how many patients. We can expect to see across each of these initial datasets in Q1 'twenty three.
David-Alexandre Gros: Hey, Tom, and thanks for the question. We expect to get the same number of patients that we've been discussing in the past. It's really just a slight change. As you know, beforehand, we had been talking about late this year, with the timing of when we started enrollments, in transplant and in IgAN in order to make sure that we have sufficient patients, that just delays us slightly into Q1.
David-Alexandre Gros: Hey, Tom, and thanks for the question. We expect to get the same number of patients that we've been discussing in the past. It's really just a slight change. As you know, beforehand, we had been talking about late this year, with the timing of when we started enrollments, in transplant and in IgAN in order to make sure that we have sufficient patients, that just delays us slightly into Q1.
Hey, Tom and thanks for the question.
We expect to get the same number of patients that we've been discussing in the past.
And it's really just a slight change so as you know beforehand, we had been talking about late this year.
The timing of when we started enrollment.
Ed in transplant, and then again in order to make sure that we have sufficient patients that just delays us slightly into the first quarter.
Thomas Smith: Okay.
Thomas Smith: Okay.
So.
David-Alexandre Gros: The target is to have a few patients in the transplant indications and then a handful of patients with six months of data in IgAN.
David-Alexandre Gros: The target is to have a few patients in the transplant indications and then a handful of patients with six months of data in IgAN.
We should have the target is to have a few patients.
In the transplant indications and then a handful of patients with six months of data.
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Thomas Smith: Okay. Got it. On islet cell transplant, can you just talk a little bit more about the team at the University of Chicago, and I guess just give us a sense, you know, are they actively performing these procedures today as part of other clinical studies? If they are, kind of what the volume of that might be. I guess your thoughts around, you know, potentially expanding out to other centers in the US. You know, I think there are, you know, 15 to 20 other academic centers that, you know, are performing these procedures, but just curious how you guys are thinking about expansion of this program.
Thomas Smith: Okay. Got it. On islet cell transplant, can you just talk a little bit more about the team at the University of Chicago, and I guess just give us a sense, you know, are they actively performing these procedures today as part of other clinical studies? If they are, kind of what the volume of that might be. I guess your thoughts around, you know, potentially expanding out to other centers in the US. You know, I think there are, you know, 15 to 20 other academic centers that, you know, are performing these procedures, but just curious how you guys are thinking about expansion of this program.
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David-Alexandre Gros: Sure. Maybe I'll start with the second part, and then Jeff, I'll turn it over to you to talk about the first part of the question on the University of Chicago. To answer your question about expanding right now, we're looking to focus on the University of Chicago, and because our IND includes cell manufacturing, right now that's specific to this site. The goal is to see if, and we believe we'll be able to begin to enroll and to get traction in Chicago. Over time, of course, we can revisit and think about where else we may go. Now, Jeff, I'll turn the call over to you.
David-Alexandre Gros: Sure. Maybe I'll start with the second part, and then Jeff, I'll turn it over to you to talk about the first part of the question on the University of Chicago. To answer your question about expanding right now, we're looking to focus on the University of Chicago, and because our IND includes cell manufacturing, right now that's specific to this site. The goal is to see if, and we believe we'll be able to begin to enroll and to get traction in Chicago. Over time, of course, we can revisit and think about where else we may go. Now, Jeff, I'll turn the call over to you.
Sure. So maybe I'll start with the second part and then Jeff I'll turn it I'll turn it over to you.
To talk about the first part of the question on the University of Chicago.
To answer your question about expanding right now.
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In Chicago, and then over time of course, we can revisit.
And think about where else we may go.
No Jeff I'll turn the call over to you in terms of the site.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah.
David-Alexandre Gros: in terms of the site.
David-Alexandre Gros: in terms of the site.
Jeff Bornstein: All right. Thank you, DA. Thanks, Tom. The University of Chicago is very active. They've been involved in islet cell transplant for many years. They've done it under their own experimental protocols, as well as protocols with other sponsors. They are active right now. They are very confident that they can enroll our study, and we've enjoyed working with them, their collaborative spirit, and their enthusiasm. We're very confident in them.
Jeff Bornstein: All right. Thank you, DA. Thanks, Tom. The University of Chicago is very active. They've been involved in islet cell transplant for many years. They've done it under their own experimental protocols, as well as protocols with other sponsors. They are active right now. They are very confident that they can enroll our study, and we've enjoyed working with them, their collaborative spirit, and their enthusiasm. We're very confident in them.
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They are very confident that they can enroll on our study and we've enjoyed working with them in their collaborative spirit and their enthusiasm. So we are we're very confident in them.
David-Alexandre Gros: The PI is the same person who presented at our R&D Day.
David-Alexandre Gros: The PI is the same person who presented at our R&D Day.
And the pie the same person there as the same person who presented at our R&D day.
Okay.
Thomas Smith: Okay, great. Got it. Then just lastly on the renal transplant program, and congrats on the progress here with the first patient dose and the recent IND clearance. Can you share any feedback on your engagement with FDA and maybe just some of the thought process behind running the larger phase II program in parallel with the ex US open label program?
Thomas Smith: Okay, great. Got it. Then just lastly on the renal transplant program, and congrats on the progress here with the first patient dose and the recent IND clearance. Can you share any feedback on your engagement with FDA and maybe just some of the thought process behind running the larger phase II program in parallel with the ex US open label program?
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Lastly on the on the renal transplant program and congrats.
Congrats on the progress here, but the first patient dosed in the recent 90 clearance can you.
Can you share any feedback on your engagement with FDA and maybe just some of the thought process behind running the larger phase II program in parallel with the ex U S Open label program.
David-Alexandre Gros: Sure. We can't share much about discussions, but perhaps what we can do is talk about how we ended up opting for a superiority study. Jeff, why don't I turn that over to you?
David-Alexandre Gros: Sure. We can't share much about discussions, but perhaps what we can do is talk about how we ended up opting for a superiority study. Jeff, why don't I turn that over to you?
Sure. So we can't share much about.
About discussions, but perhaps when.
When we can do is talk about how we ended up.
Okay.
Opting for superiority study.
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Jeff why don't I turn that over to you.
Jeff Bornstein: Sure. Yeah. Thank you, DA. So the thought process behind the design of the study was that it provides certain advantages. Superiority will allow us to design a smaller study, but also at the same time, perhaps, have some longer-term commercial advantages there. The agency did give us feedback around trial design and did guide us in that direction. From our point of view, regardless of what phase 3 looks like, this study is gonna be big enough and inform on the right endpoint to enable the correct design, whether that's a confirmatory trial that confirms this design or whether we have to switch to a different endpoint. We believe that this is designed to inform all of it.
Jeff Bornstein: Sure. Yeah. Thank you, DA. So the thought process behind the design of the study was that it provides certain advantages. Superiority will allow us to design a smaller study, but also at the same time, perhaps, have some longer-term commercial advantages there. The agency did give us feedback around trial design and did guide us in that direction. From our point of view, regardless of what phase 3 looks like, this study is gonna be big enough and inform on the right endpoint to enable the correct design, whether that's a confirmatory trial that confirms this design or whether we have to switch to a different endpoint. We believe that this is designed to inform all of it.
Sure Yes. Thank you Dan so the thought process behind the design of the study.
Is that it provides certain advantages.
Periodically.
We will allow us to design a smaller study, but also at the same time, perhaps.
Some longer term commercial advantages there the agency did give us feedback around trial design and did guide us in that direction.
And.
From our point of view, regardless of what phase three looks like this study is going to be big enough and inform on the right endpoint.
<unk> enable the correct design whether thats.
Confirmatory trial all of that came from this design or whether we have to switch to a different endpoint. We believe that this is designed to inform all of it.
Thomas Smith: Okay, great.
Thomas Smith: Okay, great.
David-Alexandre Gros: And to your-
David-Alexandre Gros: And to your-
Thomas Smith: That's super helpful.
Thomas Smith: That's super helpful.
Okay, Great that's super helpful.
David-Alexandre Gros: To your question about the Phase 1b study, we plan to run, as we discussed, both in parallel. The advantage of doing that is that it's going to allow us to continue learning about tegoprubart, and it'll also give us a way to continue to report data about the performance of tegoprubart in kidney transplant while the larger study is running.
David-Alexandre Gros: To your question about the Phase 1b study, we plan to run, as we discussed, both in parallel. The advantage of doing that is that it's going to allow us to continue learning about tegoprubart, and it'll also give us a way to continue to report data about the performance of tegoprubart in kidney transplant while the larger study is running.
To your question about the Phase <unk> study, we plan to run as we discussed both in parallel.
And the advantage of doing that is that it's going to allow us to continue learning about to go through.
The lawsuit give us a way to continue to report data about the performance to go from BARDA in kidney transplant, while the larger study is running.
Okay.
Thomas Smith: Got it. Understood. All right, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate it.
Thomas Smith: Got it. Understood. All right, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate it.
Got it understood alright, guys. Thanks for taking the questions I appreciate it.
David-Alexandre Gros: Thanks, Tom.
David-Alexandre Gros: Thanks, Tom.
Thanks, Tom.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Romir Kathuria with LifeSci Capital.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Romir Kathuria with LifeSci Capital.
Thank you and our next question comes from Robert <unk> with lifestyle capital.
Romir Kathuria: Hey, guys. Congrats on the recent updates, and thanks for taking my questions. Two quick ones for me. First, to clarify on a previous point, is mean eGFR potentially an improvable endpoint in a potential phase III study, or are you still gonna have to focus on kind of graft survival long term?
Rami Katkhuda: Hey, guys. Congrats on the recent updates, and thanks for taking my questions. Two quick ones for me. First, to clarify on a previous point, is mean eGFR potentially an improvable endpoint in a potential phase III study, or are you still gonna have to focus on kind of graft survival long term?
Hey, guys. Congrats on the recent updates and thanks for taking my question.
Two quick ones for me first to clarify on a previous point.
Is mean egfr potentially an approvable endpoint in a potential phase III study or are you still going to have to focus on kind of graft survival long term.
David-Alexandre Gros: Sure. Jeff, why don't I turn that over to you?
David-Alexandre Gros: Sure. Jeff, why don't I turn that over to you?
Sure So Jeff why don't I turn that over to you.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah, sure. Thank you. As you're probably aware, the precedent in this space has been non-inferiority in phase 3, focusing on graft rejection, and patient and graft survival. The mean change in eGFR has not been used to support approval, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be in the future. Our plan is to look at the data we have, and keep engaging with the agency. Like I said in response to the previous question, we'll be ready with the data from this trial whichever pathway that takes us down.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah, sure. Thank you. As you're probably aware, the precedent in this space has been non-inferiority in phase 3, focusing on graft rejection, and patient and graft survival. The mean change in eGFR has not been used to support approval, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be in the future. Our plan is to look at the data we have, and keep engaging with the agency. Like I said in response to the previous question, we'll be ready with the data from this trial whichever pathway that takes us down.
Yeah sure. Thank you so <unk>.
As Youre, probably aware the precedent in this space has been non inferiority.
In phase III.
Focusing on <unk>.
Rejection in patient graft survival.
The mean <unk>.
Change in Egfr has not been used to support approval.
That doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be in the future and so we our plan is to look.
At the data, we have and keep engaging with the agency and like I said on the response to.
Previous question, we'll be ready with the data from this trial whichever pathway.
Okay.
Romir Kathuria: Got it. That makes a lot of sense. Tacrolimus, this is obviously nephrotoxic, as we've talked in the past, but can you quantify how much the treatment usually affects eGFR patients receiving a kidney transplant in the first year?
Rami Katkhuda: Got it. That makes a lot of sense. Tacrolimus, this is obviously nephrotoxic, as we've talked in the past, but can you quantify how much the treatment usually affects eGFR patients receiving a kidney transplant in the first year?
Got it that makes a lot of sense and then.
<unk>, obviously never toxic as we've talked on the past, but can you quantify how much the treatment usually affect egfr patients receiving a kidney transplant in the first year.
David-Alexandre Gros: Jeff?
David-Alexandre Gros: Jeff?
Jeff Bornstein: I can take that, D.A. Yeah, thanks. It's variable, of course, patient to patient, and also depends somewhat on the quality of the graft that they got. Looking at datasets from published data and also from head-to-head trials with, for example, the Belatacept trial, the mean GFR in CNI-treated patients typically is lower and tends to decline. That rate of decline, again, is different in different individual patients, but it is predictive. There's data showing that if the eGFR at one year is below a threshold of 50 mL/min per body surface area, that is predictive of poor graft function in the long run and even graft loss.
Yes.
Jeff Bornstein: I can take that, D.A. Yeah, thanks. It's variable, of course, patient to patient, and also depends somewhat on the quality of the graft that they got. Looking at datasets from published data and also from head-to-head trials with, for example, the Belatacept trial, the mean GFR in CNI-treated patients typically is lower and tends to decline. That rate of decline, again, is different in different individual patients, but it is predictive. There's data showing that if the eGFR at one year is below a threshold of 50 mL/min per body surface area, that is predictive of poor graft function in the long run and even graft loss.
I can take that.
So.
Yes.
Variable of course patient to patient and also depends somewhat on on the quality of the graph that they bought but looking at data sets.
From published data and also from head to head trials with.
For example, the <unk> trial, the mean GFR.
In.
C&I treated patients.
Typically is lower and tends to decline.
That rate of decline again with different different different individual patients, but it is predictive there.
There is data showing that.
The Egfr at one year is below a threshold of.
50, 50 ml per minute per body surface area.
That is predictive of poor graft function in the long run and even graft loss.
Jeff Bornstein: The lower you go, the worse, the higher the risk of that bad outcome. It is predictive, and that's not surprising because it's predictive and it's used as a validated surrogate in non-transplant indications, right? If you look at the IgAN program, the ultimate endpoint is GFR. Proteinuria is the surrogate that's reasonably likely to predict. The reason that GFR is the ultimate endpoint is that it's known. It's known as an effective stand-in for the clinical outcomes of dialysis and kidney failure. It's not surprising that the GFR can predict that. Consistently, calcineurin-exposed patients do have lower GFRs, and their GFRs decline over time.
Jeff Bornstein: The lower you go, the worse, the higher the risk of that bad outcome. It is predictive, and that's not surprising because it's predictive and it's used as a validated surrogate in non-transplant indications, right? If you look at the IgAN program, the ultimate endpoint is GFR. Proteinuria is the surrogate that's reasonably likely to predict. The reason that GFR is the ultimate endpoint is that it's known. It's known as an effective stand-in for the clinical outcomes of dialysis and kidney failure. It's not surprising that the GFR can predict that. Consistently, calcineurin-exposed patients do have lower GFRs, and their GFRs decline over time.
And the lower you go the worse the higher the risk of that bad outcome. So it is predictive and thats not surprising.
Because its predictive and it's used as a validated surrogate and non transplant indications right. If you look at the.
<unk> program, the ultimate endpoint as GFR and proteinuria as a surrogate that's reasonably likely to predict and the reason the GFR was the ultimate endpoint is that it's no.
Known as effective stand in for the clinical outcomes.
Dialysis and kidney failure.
It's not surprising that the GFR can predict that and consistently Catherine.
Both patients do have lower GFR is in there.
This decline over time.
Romir Kathuria: Got it. Thanks so much.
Rami Katkhuda: Got it. Thanks so much.
Okay.
Got it thanks, so much.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Matt Kaplan with Ladenburg Thalmann.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Matt Kaplan with Ladenburg Thalmann.
Thank you and our next question comes from Matt Kaplan with Ladenburg Thalmann.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Oh, hi. This is Raymond in for Matt. Thanks for taking our questions. Congrats on getting the FDA on board with phase 2, renal transplant study. Very impressive. Just wanted to ask if perhaps, how your review of the phase 1b that you already started, did that change in light of the interactions for the phase 2 program?
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Oh, hi. This is Raymond in for Matt. Thanks for taking our questions. Congrats on getting the FDA on board with phase 2, renal transplant study. Very impressive. Just wanted to ask if perhaps, how your review of the phase 1b that you already started, did that change in light of the interactions for the phase 2 program?
Hi, This is Raymond in for Matt Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on getting the FTE onboard.
Very impressive.
Just wanted to ask with hubs.
How your view of the things <unk> already started to that change.
Interactions.
The phase two program.
David-Alexandre Gros: Thanks for the question, Raymond. Let me turn that over to Jeff.
David-Alexandre Gros: Thanks for the question, Raymond. Let me turn that over to Jeff.
Thanks for the question Raymond let.
Let me turn that over to <unk>.
Jeff.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah. Thank you. If I'm understanding the question correctly, you're asking if our thinking around the 1B study has changed in light of getting the IND open for 2A. Is that right?
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah. Thank you. If I'm understanding the question correctly, you're asking if our thinking around the 1B study has changed in light of getting the IND open for 2A. Is that right?
Okay.
Yes. Thank you so if I'm understanding the question correctly, you're asking if our thinking around the <unk> study has changed in light of.
Getting the IND open for Q&A is that does that right.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Yeah. I was wondering if there's potential maybe the FDA is kind of, you know, evolving their thinking or perhaps, yeah.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Yeah. I was wondering if there's potential maybe the FDA is kind of, you know, evolving their thinking or perhaps, yeah.
Yeah, Yeah I was wondering if there is potentially maybe the fda's kind of.
Okay.
And we're thinking or perhaps.
Jeff Bornstein: Right. Okay. I can't speak for the FDA and what they're thinking, but for us it's nothing's changed. We are executing our ongoing trial. We think that trial is going to provide very meaningful data on the safety and efficacy in a pilot program for sure, but it's still very meaningful data on what tegoprubart can do in this population. As I mentioned on the call, our intent is to add a long-term extension trial to the program, not just to the phase 2a study, but it would also allow for those 1b patients have the opportunity to continue long term should they be so inclined and they're doing well. This will allow us to gain additional information over time on durability, on long-term outcomes in that sentinel cohort.
Jeff Bornstein: Right. Okay. I can't speak for the FDA and what they're thinking, but for us it's nothing's changed. We are executing our ongoing trial. We think that trial is going to provide very meaningful data on the safety and efficacy in a pilot program for sure, but it's still very meaningful data on what tegoprubart can do in this population.
Right, Okay. So I can't speak for the FDA and what they're thinking but for nothing.
Nothing's changed we are executing our ongoing trial, we think that that trial is going to provide very meaningful data on the safety and efficacy in a pilot program for sure, but still a very meaningful data on what <unk> can do ease population and as I mentioned on the call.
Jeff Bornstein: As I mentioned on the call, our intent is to add a long-term extension trial to the program, not just to the phase 2a study, but it would also allow for those 1b patients have the opportunity to continue long term should they be so inclined and they're doing well. This will allow us to gain additional information over time on durability, on long-term outcomes in that sentinel cohort. We're very committed to that patient population and the participants in that trial. Nothing's changed for us with the new study also coming on in terms of with the existing study.
Our intent is to add.
A long term extension trial to the program not not just to the phase Iia study, but would also allow for those one patient had the opportunity to continue long term should they.
So in climate and Theyre doing well and this will allow us to gain additional information over time on durability on long term outcomes and that Sentinel cohort.
Jeff Bornstein: We're very committed to that patient population and the participants in that trial. Nothing's changed for us with the new study also coming on in terms of with the existing study.
We're very committed to that patient population.
The participants in that trial.
Nothing's changed for us with the with the New study also coming on in terms of what the existing study.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Oh, appreciate that. I guess,
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Oh, appreciate that. I guess,
I appreciate that I guess.
David-Alexandre Gros: Yeah.
David-Alexandre Gros: Yeah.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Yeah.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Yeah.
David-Alexandre Gros: Just one addition, just to clarify. The 1B is ex US. While the phase 2 is where the IND was just cleared, the 1B will remain ex US.
David-Alexandre Gros: Just one addition, just to clarify. The 1B is ex US. While the phase 2 is where the IND was just cleared, the 1B will remain ex US.
One addition.
Just.
To clarify the one b is ex U S.
While the phase II will.
Is where the R&D was just cleared one b will remain ex U S.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Oh, yeah.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Oh, yeah.
David-Alexandre Gros: As you might recall, a year ago when we went ex US with the trial, the agency had asked us at that time to do a non-human primate study. What's changed has been really the completion of that non-human primate study, and then the agency clearing our IND.
David-Alexandre Gros: As you might recall, a year ago when we went ex US with the trial, the agency had asked us at that time to do a non-human primate study. What's changed has been really the completion of that non-human primate study, and then the agency clearing our IND.
Okay.
Recall, a year ago, when we had when we went ex U S with the trial.
As the agency had asked us at that time to do a nonhuman primate study so what's changed has been.
Really the completion of that non human primate study.
And then.
The agency clearing in R&D.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Okay. Appreciate it. Yeah. I guess just one more question on the islet cell program. Congrats on making progress on preparing the US site. I was wondering if there's any lessons perhaps from the Canadian site experience that you might transfer over. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Okay. Appreciate it. Yeah. I guess just one more question on the islet cell program. Congrats on making progress on preparing the US site. I was wondering if there's any lessons perhaps from the Canadian site experience that you might transfer over. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks.
Okay I appreciate it.
I guess just one more question on the island itself program Congrats on making progress on opening currently you guys cite I was wondering if there's any lesson, perhaps from the Canadian experience who might transfer over.
Any helpful any insight would be helpful. Thanks.
David-Alexandre Gros: Yes.
David-Alexandre Gros: Yes.
Yes.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah, I mean, it's a very fair question to ask, but it's a difficult one to answer because there was multiple circumstances that contributed to that not going the way we had hoped in Canada. You know, it wasn't just one thing. There was definitely an impact of COVID. There was also some changing changing almost geopolitical landscape and how how islet cell was covered across Canada and changing kind of changing dynamic of who was referred to the site. There was a lot of different factors that contributed to it. It's a fair question to ask, but I unfortunately don't have a great answer for you. There's not one great takeaway that we had that we're going to say, "Aha.
Jeff Bornstein: Yeah, I mean, it's a very fair question to ask, but it's a difficult one to answer because there was multiple circumstances that contributed to that not going the way we had hoped in Canada. You know, it wasn't just one thing. There was definitely an impact of COVID. There was also some changing changing almost geopolitical landscape and how how islet cell was covered across Canada and changing kind of changing dynamic of who was referred to the site.
Yes.
It's a very fair question to ask but it's a difficult one to answer because.
Multiple circumstances that contributed to that not going the way we had hoped in Canada and it wasn't just one thing that there was definitely an impact of Covid that was all.
Also some changing.
Changing almost geopolitical landscape and how.
I'll, let <unk> cover across Canada.
And changing at.
Patrick.
<unk> dynamic of who was referred to the site. So there was a lot of different factors that contributed to it.
Jeff Bornstein: There was a lot of different factors that contributed to it. It's a fair question to ask, but I unfortunately don't have a great answer for you. There's not one great takeaway that we had that we're going to say, "Aha. If we do this different, it's gonna go better." We do feel very confident in Dr. Witkowski and the team at the University of Chicago, and we do believe it's going to go different there. There isn't really one key takeaway that we've taken from that that we can apply going forward.
It's a fair question to ask but I. Unfortunately don't have a great answer for you. There is not there's not one great takeaway that we had we're going to say if.
Jeff Bornstein: If we do this different, it's gonna go better." We do feel very confident in Dr. Witkowski and the team at the University of Chicago, and we do believe it's going to go different there. There isn't really one key takeaway that we've taken from that that we can apply going forward.
If we do that's different that's going to go better we do feel very confident and Dr. Wikowsky and the team at University of Chicago, and we do believe it's going to go different there.
There isn't really one key takeaway we've taken from that that we can apply going forward.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Fair enough. Thanks.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): Fair enough. Thanks.
David-Alexandre Gros: The keys are what Jeff just mentioned. Here the focus is the site. Since islet cell transplants are considered an experimental procedure in the US, all of the patients that are going through the site are focused on getting an experimental procedure, so that allows for a slightly different conversation to be had with potential participants in the study. As well, it allows for some different coverage, and a different role in terms of our being able to support the program, versus a program where parts of the cost could have been covered by the Canadian authorities.
David-Alexandre Gros: The keys are what Jeff just mentioned. Here the focus is the site. Since islet cell transplants are considered an experimental procedure in the US, all of the patients that are going through the site are focused on getting an experimental procedure, so that allows for a slightly different conversation to be had with potential participants in the study. As well, it allows for some different coverage, and a different role in terms of our being able to support the program, versus a program where parts of the cost could have been covered by the Canadian authorities.
Alright fair enough <unk>, the key or what Jeff just mentioned so here the focus is the site.
Since <unk>.
Islet cell transplants.
<unk> considered experimental procedure in the U S. All of the patients that are going through the site are focused on getting an experimental procedure.
So that that allows for is slightly different.
Conversation to be had with potential participants in the study.
And as well it allows for some different coverage.
In a different role in terms of our being able to.
To support the program.
Versus a program where.
We are parts of the cost could have been covered.
The Canadian authorities.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): I see. Yeah, appreciate that color. Thanks.
[Analyst] (Ladenburg Thalmann): I see. Yeah, appreciate that color. Thanks.
Yes, I appreciate the color. Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to refer to David-Alexandre Gros, our CEO, for any closing comments.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to refer to David-Alexandre Gros, our CEO, for any closing comments.
Thank you and this concludes our question and answer session and I would like to hand, the call <unk> CEO for any closing comments.
David-Alexandre Gros: All right. Thank you very much for your assistance, operator. Thank you all for joining us on today's call.
David-Alexandre Gros: All right. Thank you very much for your assistance, operator. Thank you all for joining us on today's call.
Alright.
Thank you very much for your assistance operator, and thank you all for joining us on today's call.
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