Q2 2022 360 DigiTech Inc Earnings Call
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to day 360 did you cut.
Call It 2022, earning conference call.
Please also note today's event is being recorded.
At this time I would like to turn the conference call over to MS. <unk> IR Director. Please go ahead.
Thank you.
Hello, everyone and welcome to our second quarter 2022 earnings conference call.
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Joining me today Mr. Shang.
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Mr. Alex <unk>, our CFO and director.
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Before we begin our prepared remarks I'd like to remind you of our safe Harbor statement in our earnings press release, which also applies to this call may refer to forward looking statements based on our current plans estimates and projections.
Also this call includes discussions of certain non-GAAP measures.
Please refer to our earnings release, Huawei completion between non-GAAP and the GAAP wise.
Unless otherwise stated all figures mentioned are in RMB.
I will now turn the call over to our CEO Mr. Zhang.
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We delivered a solid performance, which once again demonstrated the resilience of our operations and risk management capability facing adversity.
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This document is consistent with earlier guidance, including circular number 24 in 2021, and the Tokyo and number nine in 2020.
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Despite multiple headwinds from the macro economy, and our expected pandemic resurgence.
We remain committed to our strategy.
At the beginning of the year.
In this extremely volatile market, we successfully executed our operational strategy and made great progress in building products with management and the customer base as well as upgrading.
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Thank you, Greg our user base during the quarter.
By expanding the coverage of our intelligence market IPA, namely real time API model. We further increased the number of high quality user and the improved overall user quality.
The coverage ratio, our precise targeting arcane in Kuwait from five zero, 50% in Q1 to almost 100% in Q2.
In the online advertising channels, the number of high quality user with granted when line increased by 51% from Q1.
Looking across all customer acquisition channels.
The rate of high quality user increased by roughly 20% accretion basis.
Meanwhile, we continue to enhance effectiveness of targeted customer acquisition.
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In Q2, we quickly adapted our risk the strategies in response to a resurgence of the pandemic.
Including acquiring higher quality customers and gradually cutting.
I wish to use it.
We also completed major upgrades our base model to further leverage on users' data as a result.
With performance of our new loan origination was great.
First payment they want delinquency rate of new customer jumped to three.
1% in Q2 from 356% in Q1.
And the first payment delinquency 30 days with that then 0.25% in Q2.
In the meantime day, one delinquency rate our current loan book gradually went down to $4 seven 1% in June from five 1% in March.
These positive trends continued into July with they want delinquency rates, but that got to $4 six 4%.
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Despite the impact of the pandemic.
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Asset quality improved in Q2, especially for new loan origination.
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Rest of the year, we expect our risk management strategy to bring further improvement in asset quality.
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Looking ahead into Q3, we will stay vigilant on the macro economy environment and the pandemic environment.
Meanwhile, we have seen in query stable currency environment, and a healthier industry ecosystem.
Well maintain our prudent operational strategy continued to upgrade our technology and customer base and the finish our risks of vacation.
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Hello, everyone. Thank you Ashley and good morning.
Welcome to our second quarter earnings call.
I assume discussed we delivered another solid quarter and the rather challenging period of time from macro economic perspective early.
Early in the quarter Covid Lockdowns in Shanghai, and other regions of the nation noticeably weakened consumer confidence and the altered consumption pattern for many things.
Since the lockdown removed in June .
<unk> some recovery in consumers' demand for credit, although the pace of the recovery are expected to be gradual and modest.
Despite the impact from Covid and the generally soft macro environment, we continue to push for a steady improvement in overall asset quality throughout the quarter and the year.
With optimization of our risk model and the contribution from high quality, new borrowers overall, if they weren't delinquency has been declining sequentially each and every month since beginning of this year.
Even during the peak of the Covid Lockdown in April and May.
It was four 9% for Q2 versus five 2% in Q1 and further declined to four 6% in July .
Particularly I think Wednesday for new borrowers in Q2 was well below 4%, indicating continued clear better quality versus existing borrowers.
30 day collection rates remain stable at around 86% in Q2.
Colby clogged us significant Hamburg, our collection operation in April and early May.
30 day collection rates hit the lowest point of the cycle in April and less than 85% then start to recover.
By July it was already above 87% the highest point so far this year.
Again, we see clear outperformance by new borrowers versus existing borrowers.
With new borrowers 30 day collection rate was above 90% in Q2.
These risk metrics continue to support our current user acquisition strategy, we spoke which focus on high quality segment of the market.
Total net revenues for Q2 was $4 2 billion versus $4 3 billion in Q1 and $4 billion a year ago.
Revenue from credit driven service capital heavy was $2 9 billion compared to $2 9 billion in Q1, and $2 4 billion a year ago.
The year on year growth was mainly due to growth in loan volume and longer average tenor of the loans more than offsetting the negative impact from declining in average prices of the loans.
Have to have a facilitation revenue take rate extra improved modestly versus Q1.
Also due to longer loan tender.
Revenue from platform service capital Light was $1 2 billion compared to $1 4 billion in Q1, and $1 6 billion a year ago.
Year on year, and a sequential decline was mainly due to the decline in loan boarding.
And the average price up the capital light loan facilitation.
During the quarter capital light loan facilitation.
And other technology solutions combined account for roughly 56% of the total loan volume.
Given the challenging macro environment, we purposely increased the portion of the loans processed through ice and other technology solutions to further mitigate potential risks so far this year.
Such services typically have different commercial terms compared to regular capital light loan facilitation.
Overall in the long run we will continue to pursue technology, driven business model and expect capitalized and other technology solutions to eventually become a significant majority of our business.
During the quarter average IRR prices of the loans.
Originated and facilitated further dropped to between 22, and 23% well within the 24% rate cap requirement, we expect pricing to be relatively stable for the coming quarters.
Sales and marketing expenses increased approximately 11% sequentially in Q2, mainly because of the increase in high quality user acquisition.
Specifically.
We exclude backend expenses the increase in the average cost to acquire a 360 <unk> new credit line user through third party traffic sources or roughly in line with the increase in the average size of the new credit lines as such the average cost per dollar amount.
New credit line remained relatively stable Q on Q.
As always we will continue to use lifecycle, ROI and LTV as a key metrics to determine the pace and scope of our user acquisition strategy to ensure the sustainability and the profitability of our operations.
Although the overall risk profile of our loan portfolio continued to improve in Q2 due to the contribution from new loans from high quality, new users impacts from micro uncertainty and Covid were still apparent on all loans from existing users. Therefore, we continue to take.
Prudent approach in booking provisions against potential credit loss.
New provisions for contingent liability for loans facilitated in the quarter was approximately $1 3 billion.
With strong operating results and a stable contribution from Tech light model, our leverage ratio, which is defined as risk bearing loan balance divided by shareholders equity was at a historical low of four times.
In Q2 compared to four eight a year ago.
We expect to see rather stable leverage ratio for the time being until capitalized and other technology solutions contribution.
It's become a bigger portion of the business in the future.
We generate $1 1 billion cash from operation in Q2 compared to $1 4 billion in Q1, the sequential decline in operating cash flow was in part due to some COVID-19 related timing issue as Shanghai being gradually reopened in late Q to sum up.
The business and administrative procedures within the financial system, we are still not running as efficient as what normally should be therefore, causing some delays in collecting receivables from some of our financial institution partners.
Total cash and cash equivalent was 11 4 billion in Q2 compared to $9 8 billion in Q1 now.
Nonrestricted cash was approximately seven.
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As always a significant portion of our cash will normally be allocated to support the security deposit with our institution partners in normal business course.
We continue to generate healthy cash flow from operations. We believe our current cash position is sufficient to support the growth of our business to invest in key technologies and to satisfy potential regulatory requirement and to return to our shareholders.
According to the dividend policy approved by our board last year, we declared another quarterly dividend of <unk> dollars 18.
Her avs for Q2.
The cash dividends represent approximately 20% of our Q2 earnings.
Finally regarding our outlook for 2022.
As we discussed previously we believe 2022 will be a fairly challenging year for the industry as the participants are settling in a new regulatory environment. Meanwhile, the on and off outbreak of Covid as well as associated measures to control the operate added additional uncertainties.
To an already soft macro economy. Therefore.
Therefore, we want to maintain a prudent approach to plan, our business and mitigate potential risk.
At this point in time, we would like to keep our full year loan volume.
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<unk> 410 billion and RMB 450 billion unchanged representing year on year growth of 15% to 26%.
We view this transitional year as an opportunity for us to further optimize our operation strengthen our technology platform and upgrading our customer base to build an even stronger foundation for future growth.
As always the forecast reflects the company's current and preliminary view, which is subject to material changes.
With that I would like to conclude our prepared remarks, operator, we can now take some questions.
Thank you management will now begin the question and answer sections. If you have any questions. Please press zero one on your telephone keypad.
If you need to cancel please press zero two for those who can speak Chinese. Please ask your questions in Chinese first followed by English translation.
Additionally, in order to have enough time to address everyone on the call. Please keep it to one question and one follow up and return to Keeley view.
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Credit line, the new credit line granted to Smes.
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Okay. So our risk management team has been working with other teams globally to make several adjustments in the second quarter, firstly, improving the quality of newly acquired customers with a comprehensive coverage of Rte the integration of the pay model the number of our robust quantity.
Kathy Murray has been doubled compared with the first quarter.
Secondly, improving the data mining from People's Bank of China call David.
We have set up a joint project team and design with 18000 factory is now remote.
Quite a good lunch covering the optimization of its number of models.
Including competitive offer exploration high quality customers evidenced vacation bad customers Edification carrier model income annualized LG <unk> has shrunk.
And in the Meanwhile, way is that our customers the way support quite a performance more cautiously.
Thirdly, we improve the resource allocation to high quality customers on the operations side.
Including pricing credit lines and promotion.
With these actions the credit performance of new transactions has been improved we have seen that the SPD 30 days Q2 dropped by about 20% comparing to the first quarter.
And to maintain a downward trend in July and August where.
Where the epidemic outbreak, we can lower our risks, which truly demonstrates the resilience of our team and our assets.
Now the results of some action mention above have not been fully reflected at some actions on pilot testing, we need to absorb long term performance.
Therefore with fully adoptions of these actions we are very confident to maintain stable performance in the future.
As for 90 day delinquency rate it will be lower in the third quarter as we focus more on 30 day delinquency rate. It has been the lowest in July and our future targets will be more than two 5% to 8%.
This concludes by your question.
How do you guys think.
Okay.
And this is the end of our question and answer sections and now I hand back to management for conclusion.
Okay. Thanks again for joining US conference call. If you have any additional questions. Please feel free contact us offline. Thank you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to day 360 did your pet's second quarter 2022 earnings conference call.
Please also note today's event is being recorded at.
At this time I would like to turn the conference call over to MS. <unk> IR Director. Please go ahead Mehdi.
Thank you.
Hello, everyone and welcome to our second quarter 2022 earnings conference call.
Our results were issued earlier today and can be found.
Our web site.
Joining me today are Mr. Zhang our CEO and Raptor.
Mr. Alex <unk>, our CFO and director.
And it means that don't yet our Seattle.
Before we begin our prepared remarks I'd like to remind you of our safe Harbor statement in our earnings press release, which also applies to this call may refer to forward looking statements based on our current plan estimates and projections.
Also this call includes discussions of certain non-GAAP measures.
Please refer to our earnings release for reconciliation between non-GAAP and the GAAP one.
Unless otherwise stated all figures mentioned are in RMB.
I will now turn the call over to our CEO Mr. Zhang.
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Hello, everyone I'm very happy to report another strong quarter.
In Q2 total loan originations and associated patient volume.
Alrighty, $98 3 billion up 11% Y O y.
Outstanding loan balance reached RMB 155 billion.
28% Y O Y despite an unusually volatile macro environment with Shanghai locked down and we still get a co pay in multiple cities.
We delivered a solid performance, which once again demonstrated the resilience of our operations and the risk magnet capability facing adversity.
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Completing the rectification work and the comeback Bachelor for Vijay.
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We have completed most of the rectification work according to the regulatory requirement and now in the stage of granular data reporting.
Regarding credit Agency reform plan, Julien, we have already submitted our execution plan to regulator and.
Maintain close dialogue with that.
Based on feedback and direction around the regulators, we started to work with other business partners to implement our plan.
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Payments is consistent with earlier guidance, including circular number 24 in 2021 and the circular number nine in 2020 with the Grace period extended one year pure gym, Turkey 2023.
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Funding program with management, and the customer base as well as upgrading.
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Finding cost for credit driven loan decreased by 21 basis points on sequential basis.
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On the customer acquisition front, we continued to upgrade our user base during the quarter.
By expanding the coverage of our intelligence market IPA, namely real time API model.
We further increased the number of high quality user and the improved overall user quality.
The coverage ratio our precise targeting arcane.
Inquiry from five zero, 50% in Q1 to almost 100% in Q2.
In the online advertising channels.
A high quality user with granted when line increased by 51% from Q1.
Looking across all customer acquisition channels, the credit approval rate of high quality user increased by roughly 20% accretion basis.
Meanwhile, we continue to enhance effectiveness of targeted customer acquisition.
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Continue to upgrade our modeling.
In other areas, we optimize the cost efficiency of use our position by upgrading our talent and marketing platform.
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Baidu open scoring app.
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In Q2, we quickly adapted our risk the strategies in response to a resurgence of the pandemic.
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We also completed major earthquake, our base model to further leverage on users' data as a result risk performance of our new loan origination was great.
First payment they one delinquency rate of new customer jumped to three.
1% in Q2 from 356% in Q1.
And the first payment delinquency 30 days with that then 0.25% in Q2.
In the meantime day, one delinquency rate our current loan book gradually went down to $4 seven 1% in June Brown five.
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The Overwore M. One collateral rate of covered loan book trended up to 86, 9% in June compared to five 2% in March.
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Net of adjustments, we made and our ability to counter the pandemic related challenges.
If macro circumstances stand out right.
The year, we expect our risk management strategy to bring further improvement in asset quality.
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In the long run we plan to modulate, our leading technology into more products and better serve diverse financial institution.
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Looking ahead into Q3, we will stay vigilant on the macro economy environment and the pandemic debottleneck.
Meanwhile, we have seen.
Very stable pricing environment, and a healthier industry ecosystem.
We will maintain a prudent operational strategy continue to upgrade our technology and customer base and the finish our risked suffocation pack.
CLS and CFO , Alex Mandel at the northern tier.
Okay.
Thank you everyone. Thank you Ashley and good morning.
Yes.
Welcome to our second quarter earnings call.
As I just discussed we delivered another solid quarter and there are other challenging period of time from macro economic perspective.
Early in the quarter Covid Lockdowns in Shanghai, and other regions of the nation noticeably weakened consumers' confidence and altered consumption pattern for many things.
Lockdown removed in June we have observed some recovery in consumers' demand for credit although the pace of the recovery are expected to be gradual and modest.
Despite the impact from Covid and the generally softer macro environment, we continue to push for a steady improvement in the overall asset quality throughout the quarter and the year.
With optimization of our risk model and the contribution from high quality, New borrowers overall day, one delinquency has been declining sequentially each and every month since beginning of this year.
Even during the peak of the Covid Lockdown in April and May.
It was four 9% for Q2 versus five 2% in Q1 and further declined to four 6% in July .
Particularly day delinquency for new borrowers in Q2 was well below 4%, indicating continued clear better quality versus existing borrowers.
30 day collection rates remain stable at around 86% in Q2.
Colby clogged us significantly hampered our collection operation in April and early May.
30 day collection rate hit the lowest point of the cycle in April at less than 85%.
And start to recover.
By July it was already above 87% the highest point so far this year.
Again, we see clear outperformance by new borrowers versus existing borrowers.
New borrowers 30 day collection rate was above 90% in Q2.
These risks metrics continue to support our current user acquisition strategy, we spoke which focus on high quality segment of the market.
Total net revenues for Q2 was $4 2 billion versus $4 3 billion in Q1 and $4 billion a year ago.
Revenue from creditor in service capital heavy was $2 9 billion compared to $2 9 billion in Q1, and $2 4 billion a year ago.
Year on year growth was mainly due to growth in loan volumes and longer average tenor of the loans more than offsetting the negative impact from declining in average prices of the loans.
Have to have a facilitation revenue take rate actually improved modestly versus Q1 also due to longer loan tender.
Revenue from platform service capital Light was $1 2 billion compared to $1 4 billion in Q1, and $1 6 billion a year ago, the year on year and a sequential decline was mainly due to the decline in loan volume and the average price up the capital light loan facility.
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During the quarter happened like loan facilitation highs and other technology solutions combined account for roughly 56% of the total loan volume.
The challenging micro environment, we purposely increased the portion of the loans processed through ice and other technology solutions to further mitigate potential risks so far this year.
Such services typically have different commercial terms compared to regular capital light loan facilitation.
Overall in the long run we will continue to pursue technology, driven business model and expect capital light and other technology solutions to eventually become a significant majority of our business.
During the quarter average prices of the loans.
Or you originated and facilitated further dropped to between 22 and 23% well within the 24% rate cap requirement, we expect pricing to be relatively stable for the coming quarters.
Sales and marketing expenses increased approximately 11% sequentially in Q2, mainly because of the increase in high quality user acquisition.
Specifically, if we exclude backend expenses the increase in the average cost to acquire a 360 <unk> new credit line user through third party traffic sources or roughly in line with the increase in the average size of the new credit lines as such the average.
Cost per dollar amount of new credit line remained relatively stable Q on Q.
Initial for the time being until capitalized and other technology solutions contribution.
Become a bigger portion of the business in the future.
We generated $1 1 billion cash from operations in Q2 compared to $1 4 billion in Q1, the sequential decline in operating cash flow was in part due to some COVID-19 related timing issue as Shanghai being gradually reopen in late Q2 some of.
The business and administrative procedures within the financial system, we are still not running as efficient as what normally should be therefore, causing some delays in collecting receivables from some of our financial institution partners.
Total cash and cash equivalent was 11 4 billion in Q2 compared to $9 8 million in Q1 non restricted cash was approximately <unk>.
$7 billion in Q2 versus $6 2 billion in Q1 as always a significant portion of our cash will normally be allocated to support the security deposit with our institution partners in normal business course.
As we continue to generate healthy cash flow from operations. We believe our current cash position is sufficient to support the growth our business to invest in key technologies and to satisfy potential regulatory requirement and to return to our shareholders.
According to the dividend policy approved by our board last year, we declared another quarterly dividend of <unk> dollars 18.
Her avs for Q2.
The cash dividends represent approximately 20% of our Q2 earnings.
Finally regarding our outlook for 2022.
As we discussed previously we believe 2022 will be a fairly challenging year for the industry as the participants are settling in a new regulatory environment. Meanwhile, the on and off outbreak of Covid as well as associated measures to control the outbreak added additional uncertainties.
To an already soft macro economy. Therefore.
Therefore, we want to maintain a prudent approach to plan, our business and mitigate potential risk.
At this point in time, we would like to keep our full year loan volume.
Guidance of between <unk>.
RMB 410 billion and RMB 450 billion unchanged representing year on year growth of 15% to 26%.
We view this transitional year as an opportunity for us to further optimize our operations strengthen our technology.
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As always the forecast reflects the company's current and preliminary view, which is subject to material changes.
With that I would like to conclude our prepared remarks, operator, we can now take some questions.
Thank you management will now begin the question and answer sanctions. If you have any questions. Please press zero one on your telephone keypad.
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Ali CIBC. Please go ahead.
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We encountered a sudden pressure such as the increase of customers early prepayments the customer acquisition challenges after the pricing adjustment. So I was wondering in the context of these uncertainties.
Any changes.
Neither of our bank partners to cooperate with US and are there any changes in the funding cost the customer acquisition costs and also the actual borrowing demand of our potential customers and if there were some certain challenges.
Our plans and how are we going to overcome it.
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Due to the impact of macro economy financial infusion.
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Our consumer loan business and Mikael.
Financial inclusion as pressure from other asset class.
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High demand.
From a financial institution that is.
By that drop in funding cost that we already discussed.
In July and August we are seeing that.
Trending down our funding cost by that.
Second question as Florida Cat in our acquisition activity.
Due to the lockdown of pandemic.
Flight activity.
Our customer drawdown activity is to some extent negatively impacted.
Thanks to our I D.
The risk of counter measure it that way.
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The drawdown activity.
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Thanks management for taking my questions.
My first question is about our SMA strategies.
The current macro backdrop.
We scaled back the pace of our SME business as well as the offline sales team and my second question is about the average ticket size.
The uncertainties of the macro environment are we seeing.
The ball is.
Getting a lower ticket size and they are getting a bit more than in globally. Thank you.
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Sanjay.
This business as you can see the total loan originations for the third patient in the SME business in Q2 peak.
This is number one for the second point is for that type of market different channel or external channels that we have less control with the gap after volume and.
Our focus on our direct sales team of Mike.
Navigation.
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Haven't seen a negative side.
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Relatively stable.
Okay Thomas.
Just add a couple more points there.
On the SME.
As John mentioned.
If you look it up.
Earnings release this quarter.
Credit line, the new credit line granted to SME is.
$4 9 billion.
And the actual long.
Facilitate our originate to SME is about seven 8 billion roughly.
To last quarter that loan volume was a little bit over 10 billion. So thats the numbers there, but just wanted to make sure.
When we talk about SME and we're talking about it rather.
Narrowly defined SME, so, meaning like if thats real SME as opposed to some of the.
Players talking about more broadly defined SME, so thats that makes a difference.
Secondly regarding the ticket size.
If you look at the for example average drawdown, we look at for Q2.
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When we pass through the Lockdown period, we actually see pretty.
Still see a pretty slow growth in terms of.
Ticket size in consumption.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Our next question is Alex <unk> from UBS.
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So San Diego.
So my question is mainly on the take rate outlook.
And you mentioned that your average IRR during the quarter was 22.
The 23% and net debt to remain stable going forward.
You also mentioned you're putting cost is improving in Europe .
Performance is also stabilizing so I'm wondering.
If we could expect some months ago.
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Sure Alex.
Let me take your question here.
Europe generally youre right given that we have already reached the point in terms of the pricing go.
Based on the regulatory.
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Going forward.
For the remainder of the year.
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The overall take rate.
I would say you probably will see a more stable take rate.
If anything there could be some improvement.
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Maybe modestly improved take rate.
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I would expect to happen on the macro front then there will be another another question there.
From funding cost as I mentioned the sure.
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And right now we're sitting at about six five so there's maybe still a little bit room to go in terms of the.
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Okay. Thank.
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Our next question is Richard from Morgan Stanley .
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Targeted customer by like and banks et cetera, So what's the competitive landscape at the moment.
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We do not have any e-commerce pass through on E. Commerce ecosystem. Therefore, we can collaborate with all of the platform in the market.
Therefore, banco chunks of customer growth.
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Management, just mentioned that would be looking to the second half we can see improvement in overall risk indicator.
My question is more about how do we see the path of this improvement is it like a graduate bumpy one or like a notable options.
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And also when do we expect the 90 day delinquent.
Delinquency ratio to peak, yes. That's my question. Thank you.
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Okay. So our risk management team has been working with other teams co play to make several adjustments during the second quarter, firstly, improving the quantity of newly acquired customers with a comprehensive coverage of Rte and the integration of a model number.
Our robust quantity CAC and Murray has been doubled compared with the first quarter.
Secondly, improving the data mining from People's Bank of China call David.
We have set up a joint project team and design with 18000 effective November <unk>.
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Including competitive offer exploration high quality customers Evans vacation bad customers, Adam mutation carrier model income annualized LNG mode et cetera.
In the Meanwhile rate is that a customized way support quite a performance more cautious right.
Thirdly, we improve the resource allocation to high quality customers on the operation side.
Including pricing credit lines and promotion.
With these actions.
The performance of new transactions has been improved we have seen that the SPV 30 days Q2 dropped by about 20% comparing to first quarter.
Maintain a downward trend in July and August where.
Where the epidemic outbreak, which has been our ela risks, which truly demonstrates the resilience of our team and our assets.
Now the results of some action mentioned above there have not been fully reflected at some actions are in pilot testing, we need long term performance.
Therefore with fully adoptions of these actions we are very confident to maintain stable performance in the future.
As for 90 day delinquency rate it will be lower in the third quarter as well.
We focus more on 30 day delinquency rate. It has been the lowest in July and our future targets will be more than two 5% to 8%.
Hope this can clarify your question.
How does that shake.
Thank you Akshay.
And this is the end of our question and answer sections and now I hand back to management for conclusion.
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