Q3 2022 Frontdoor Inc Earnings Call
Increased to three two months of supply from two four months over the prior year period.
We are also hearing commentary from a real estate brokerage partners that the market is starting to turn in fact, many real estate companies are working to retrain their agents on best practices, such as utilizing inspections and home service plans to improve the appeal of their listings.
These trends should increase the home service plan capture rate as a percentage of existing home sales.
However, we are carefully monitoring the level of existing home sales as we head into 2023.
A significant decline an existing home sales will shrink the potential pool for home service plan purchases.
But as I've said before regardless of market conditions I believe we can do a much better job of executing the real estate I'm very excited about what the team is doing the build our sales culture fixed structural misalignments upgrade our talent and refocus on the most impactful partnerships.
Now, let's turn to slide seven and the renewal channel.
To date, a renewal channel is performing well in.
In fact, I am pleased to share our blended renewal rate actually increase in the third quarter to approximately 72%.
While our customers remain generally inelastic, we're closely monitoring how are higher price increases may affect our customer base, our customer base over the next several quarters.
I want to be very specific about our pricing strategy consistent with our second quarter comments, we're still on track to deliver a 12% to 13% price increase by the end of this year the.
The larger benefit will actually occur next year as our pricing actions have been weighted more to the second half of 2022.
But to be clear for 2000 2002, we have in approximately 8% realized price increase versus the prior year.
Longer term, we expect renewal rates will gradually rise as we zero in on creating a better customer experience.
In conclusion, I am confident that our financial results will improve from the actions, we are taking and as the macro challenges subside.
And we're already seeing signs that things might be moving in our direction as we close out in 2022.
I will now turn the call over to Brian can review our financial results Brian .
Thanks, Bill and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide H and I'll review, our third quarter of 2022 financial results.
Third quarter revenue increased 3% versus the prior year period to $484 million as a result of a 5% increase from price and changes in customer product mix.
Which more than offset a three per cent decline in customer volumes.
Looking at our home service plan channels third quarter revenue derived from customer renewals increased 8% versus the prior year period due to improve price realisation and growth in the number of renewed home service plans.
First your real estate revenue decreased 30% versus the prior year period.
Reflecting a continued decline in the number of home service plans in this channel.
Due to the ongoing challenges presented by the seller's market driven in part by extremely long home inventory levels across the U S.
First your due to see revenue increased 8% versus the prior year period with 11 per cent growth driven by improved price realisation and a mix shift a higher price products, partly offset by three per cent lower volume.
Third quarter revenue report and our other channels increased $2 million over the prior year period, driven primarily by growth in our pro connect on demand home services business.
Gross profit declined 17% in the third quarter versus the prior year period to $210 million and our gross profit margin was 43 per cent.
The gross profit decline was driven by a $58 million increasing contract claims costs.
Primarily reflecting inflationary cost pressures, which I'll speak to more in a moment.
Net income decreased $48 million in the third quarter to $28 million.
Primarily driven by the gross profit decrease.
14 million dollar goodwill and intangibles impairment charge and.
$5 million for restructuring.
The 14 million dollar goodwill and intangible assets impairment was driven by a shift in focus to further integrate streams technology into the core home service plan business and must focus on selling this technology platform to third party BTB customers as SaaS platform.
This resulted in significantly lower projected revenue for stream.
And based on a discounted cash flow analysis performed in connection with preparing our third quarter financial statements. We determined that the carrying amount of the scream reporting unit exceeded its fair value.
The third quarter restructuring charges for $5 million.
We're primarily comprised of a 2 million dollar impairment of certain internally developed software.
And $3 million, a severance and other costs.
$2 million or the severance costs related to the workforce reduction as part of the strategic review our SG&A expenses, we completed in the third quarter.
Adjusted net income decreased three $2 million over the prior year period to $46 million and adjusted EBITDA was $79 million in the third quarter or $42 million lower than the prior year period.
Let's move to the table on slide nine and I'll provide more context for the year over year decline in third quarter adjusted EBITDA.
Starting at the top we had $14 million a favorable revenue conversion in the third quarter versus the prior year period.
Contract claims costs increased $58 million in the third quarter versus the prior year period.
Primarily driven by inflationary cost pressures, including higher contractor related expenses and parts and equipment costs.
The rate of inflation and a cost per claim basis versus the prior year period was relatively flat with the second quarter at approximately 23%.
And the primary cost drivers remain the same.
Sales and marketing costs decreased $2 million in the third quarter versus the prior year period.
Primarily driven by reduced investment in our pro connect on demand Homeservices business.
Service costs also decreased $2 million in the third quarter versus the prior year period, primarily driven by lower labor costs.
And finally, G&A cost increase $3 million in the third quarter, primarily due to hire personnel and insurance costs.
While the macro economic environment remains challenging.
We continue to look for opportunities to improve margins, while still investing for growth.
Beyond the benefits of taking additional price.
Our top priority to improve gross margin is to mitigate the impact of claims cost inflation.
And we continue to work on the initiative viewed last quarter.
These include increasing the per cent of total jobs assigned to our preferred contractors.
Expanding our recruiting efforts to increase our contractor count.
Reviewing all service cost estimates over a certain dollar limit from nonpreferred contractors and continuing to maximize the benefits are supply management efforts.
Bill mentioned, we conducted a comprehensive review of our SG&A footprint in the third quarter.
And reduced our workforce by 7%.
Which resulted in annual operating savings expense savings of over $10 million.
I would also note we all found opportunities to reduce our capitalized spend to improve cash flow by approximately $5 million on an annualized basis.
There is no turn to slide 10 to review of our cash flow in cash position.
Net cash provided from operating activities was $80 million for the nine months ended September 30th 2022, which comprise $121 million in earnings adjusted for non-cash charges offset in part by $41 million of cash used for working capital.
Cash used for working capital was primarily driven by seasonality and the impacts on deferred revenue of a decline in the number of first year real estate home service plans.
Ned Cashews for investing activities was $25 million for nine months ended September 30th 2022.
And primarily comprised capital expenditures related to investments in technology.
Net cash used refinancing activities was $74 million for the nine months ended September 30th 2022.
Primarily driven by $59 million of share repurchases in the first half of the year.
While we didn't repurchase shares in the third quarter, we continued to prioritize share repurchases in our capital allocation strategy.
Remain committed to returning cash to our valued shareholders. However, like many other U S public companies the amount of additional share repurchases, if any will depend on the macro economic environment and how our business performs throughout the rest of this year and into 2023.
Free cash flow calculators net cash provided from operating activities minus property additions was $50 million for the nine months ended September 32022.
And we're projecting approximately $85 million a free cash flow for the year ended December 31 2022.
We ended the third quarter was $244 million in cash with restricted net assets totaling $157 million in unrestricted cash totalling $87 million.
I will now conclude my prepared remarks, with our current thoughts regarding the financial outlook for the fourth quarter and full year 2022 provided on slide 11.
We expect our fourth quarter revenue to be within a range of $326 million to $336 million, which reflects a mid single digit increase and renewal channel revenue versus the prior year period that is more than offset that approximately 30% decline in real estate channel revenue.
A low single digit revenue decline in the DDC channel.
And lower revenue from both pro connecting Scream.
Fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA is expected to arrange been $4 million and $14 million.
Declined from the prior year period, as a result of the inflationary cost pressures and the impact of lower real estate channel revenue.
Turning to full year.
We raised our revenue outlook from last quarter and is projected to be within a range of 1.65 billion to $1.66 billion.
Full year revenue growth assumptions include upper single digit revenue growth in both the DDC and renewal channels.
Nearly 30% decrease in the real estate channel.
Even by the historically challenging seller's market.
An extremely low levels of home inventory.
On a consolidated basis, our core home service plan business revenue growth is now expected to be in the low single digits, mostly driven by 6% growth from higher price and product mix, which more than offset three per cent lower volume.
Our overall customer account is expected declined by approximately 5% in 2022.
As a 1% increase in renewal customers.
Will be more than offset by a 30 per cent decrease in real estate customers and a 5% decline in DDC customers.
In regard to customer accounts. Please note that in an effort to assist you in better understanding our business and trends we have provider historical customer accounts my channel in the appendix of the webcast deck and we'll update quarterly going forward.
Additionally reductions in pro connect marketing investment starting in the back half of the year will lower the on demand full year revenue target to approximately $35 million.
Our full year gross profit margin is projected to be approximately 41% driven primarily by the continuation of high cost inflation.
Hartley offset by higher pricing and process improvement efforts.
This projection assumes that inflation will average approximately 20% on a cost per service requests basis.
And the actual number of members service request will be down approximately 4% in 2022 versus prior year.
We are now targeting full year SG&A to range between $515 million and $520 million <unk>.
Including a stock compensation expense target of approximately $23 million.
As Bill mentioned earlier, the 45 million dollar decrease from our original full your SG&A guidance was primarily driven by the successful execution for expense reduction initiatives.
Based on these updated inputs, we raised our full year adjusted EBITDA range to be between $185 million and $195 million.
And finally, we're projecting our full year capital expenditures to range between $40 million and $45 million in the annual effective tax rate to be approximately 27%.
The 300 basis point increase in our annual effective tax rate from the previous estimate in August is primarily driven by the non deductible goodwill impairment and share based awards.
With that I'll now turn the call back over to Bill for closing comments before Matt opens the question and answer session Bill.
Thanks Ryan.
I truly believe that this is an industry that is right for innovation.
In addition to the work we're doing with the core business. The team has been doing some really innovative work that I am excited to share with you at our Investor day on three 223 in Midtown Manhattan.
We are currently in the testing phase and some of our plans will evolve over the next several months. So we are going to get into specifics today.
But as you can see from slide 12, we have a great venue lined up and I encourage all of you to try to attend in person.
With that I will now hand, it over to Max to open the Q&A Sir.
Thanks, Bill as a reminder, during the question and answer session. We encourage you to ask any questions that you may have that please note that our guidance is limited to what the outlook we provided.
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And our first question today comes from that <unk> Oppenheimer and your line of <unk>.
Hey, good morning, as soon as <unk>.
Thanks for taking the question.
Like a starting just on the pricing side.
Uhm.
Called out to higher price eight and a quarter in the foyer guys with him so I guess.
Nice and product mix.
I guess you had talked about targeting at 12 to 13 per cent price increase this year I guess, how much are we sort of expect that the benefit this year isn't that into next year.
Yeah, I think I had mentioned and I know it gets a little confusing because of the way. We after recognize revenue for 2022 realize price increase will be 8%.
Okay, great. Thanks for that and then just on the the contract claims cause I guess can you give us a little bit of color on sort of the coughing that inflation tied between <unk> contractors, that's it and types of parts and equipment.
Is there anything decelerate or what have you seen accelerated from from the last quarter.
Yeah. Thanks for the question Great question, Yeah, we saw really we think our inflation from our contractors is stabilising as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the inflation rate on a service request basis was about the same from second quarter year over year. So that tells me, it's stabilizing I can't quite say moderation, yet but that.
Could be coming.
The benefits in the quarter really from lower service request, which which was good news and also if you look at our overall EBITDA Beach, we had favorable SG&A as well. So overall it was it was a good quarter on that <unk> in that respect is that helpful.
Or is it clear the air with I would add.
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You know sort of unprecedented unprecedented increase in inflation and your relation.
The last 20 years or so so we are we are still cautious we're working closely with them we.
Things happen in the economy. So the change in interest rates again yesterday, so where where remained cautious but I think I think we feel like we have our arms wrapped around this and that well I think Brian said it well, we're not exactly say things I've moderated or stabilize I think we have a better understanding of it.
<unk> or even closer to her then as you know I think.
O'brien said this repeatedly.
The majority of the costs are in the are in the labor side labor rates labor.
Labor shortages.
<unk> et cetera, the other side is that parts and equipment piece, which.
Increase, but I think Brian it's fair to say that is probably we're able to point to even more stabilized right Yep I agree.
Okay, great. Yeah. Thank you very much that's that's helpful and I just lost one if I could squeeze it and I know you guys provided the home service plants.
Account by channel, which is helpful to break it out.
<unk>, obviously, you gave the guy that for for the full year on the customer growth.
Maybe I should just provide some details on how you're thinking about 20 twenty-three terms of brand new walls and the T. T C channel.
See you gave some color on the real estate side, but that'd be helpful. Just to parse through through the three different channels.
Yeah, we're not ready yet to talk about 2023, but we are obviously have a lot to share with you when we get together and large.
Okay understood thanks very much.
Thank you and our next question is from the lineup Eric S. Raymond James and your line will be up and down.
Great. Thanks for the question can you just talk about failure thoughts on the on demand offering going for it are you thinking about that let's see what the SG&A kind of reductions kind of what area, specifically and third just on the AD environment instead of a storm and top of it. Some other day that sounds like it's getting a little bit easier as well as any commentary there'll be helpful. Thank you.
Yeah, let me.
Tried to take them in order.
On demand.
We do more than doubled prokinetic revenue this year versus last year and the editor of sudden English second quarter.
Something here and we are we are oliva.
The on demand business, we're figuring out exactly how to go to the market, where we wanted to be a bigger business, but but <unk> and his team have done a really nice job of developing that area in terms of the yard service offering and so we're we're we're pretty bullish on I will have a lot more to say about seven March base.
<unk> within 2022, we're pretty pleased with the efforts were making the connection with the contractors et cetera. So that is gonna be that is clearly.
In our future plans when it comes to SG&A I talked about the workforce reduction, which you know you never want to.
Do those kind of things, but we felt that we had to.
Take some steps to to optimize our workforce.
Other areas are we did reduce some marketing spin.
Reduce some other areas of SG&A I tried to leave the service operations alone. So that we can continue to service, our our our customers, especially in the.
The high season in Q3.
But it was it was it was a broad based effort and you know I was really proud of the executive team. We came together we spent a lot of time on this week, we obviously looked hard at the head count.
Judicious in our decisions there, but we looked at all aspects of the cost structure.
That's why I think you can see the some evidence of that that we.
Yeah from what we are as I told you in 2022 were down $45 million.
And as far as I have spending nose, yeah very good point it does look like an idiot.
You've seen the results from.
Some of the major platform is that they're they're struggling a little bit which I think is going to help us. We were the looking back is that you know I think it has been.
The environment is still a pretty competitive environment, so I wouldn't say.
We we've got a.
Moderation in and marketing costs, but I think it is trending in the right direction to your point and hopefully that's gonna help us generate more leads in Nebraska.
Spot.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question is from the lineup Jeff Smith William Check your line is now I can.
Good morning, everyone.
I believe in the morning it costs.
I believe you said the cost per claims were up around 22%.
Unless I misheard that and can we get a sense on on how much labor was that versus parts and equipment.
Like labors up more but what sort of the break out there.
Yeah. It was similar to Q2 and if we look at our overall.
Claims cost, it's about half contractor related which would be labor fuel their overhead and the other half the parts and equipment and that was pretty consistent this quarter versus last quarter.
Specific number was 23 per cent right, Sir yes, 23% right.
Alright.
Okay.
And then just.
Thinking about fighting increases, 12% to 13% sort of on but I understand that takes time tit earned through but it seems like that that could come up light. So I guess.
<unk>, where do you feel your pricing is in.
Industry kind of relative to competitors is there anything that may be holding you back from from going higher there will you need to go higher there do you think to really repair margins.
Yes.
We're looking at that is what I would say is a and I don't mean dogs. The question I'm not at all we're not going to do any price increases for this year, we're still formulating our pricing for next year I'm not ready to attack chat about that yet.
We may be able to but you know at this point, we're still modeling that out and we have done some things in our marketing efforts because of the price increases to try to guide people more to the gold product platinum product with a little bit lower priced and you know the coverages are a little different but.
So we are trying to do some things within the marketing mix to try to drive positive units, but.
More to come on that but.
Certainly alive question it within the government.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
Our next question is from the line of course compensate from J P. Morgan.
Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks for the questions Uhm, just wanting to see if you had any sense on on what's driving but lower sandwiched request volume in the corner using that came and blow your expectations and then.
How you're thinking about that going forward.
Uhm and maybe at for Bill could you just talk more about your discounting strategy and a direct to consumer channel I think he said he started that in September and you plan on doing some more than four Q and how that fits in with the broader price increases your making thank you.
The first one okay sure. Thanks, Corie, Yeah, I think Q3 <unk> there was a lot of benefit from Aidsvax I think the weather cooperated for us. So that was a lot of the benefit in the quarter, but also what we're seeing you know since the start of this pandemic of the pandemic trades have been plumbing and a P.
Alliances those have begun to trend down continually since the peak. So those are getting more favorable too. So the trends are going in the right direction I would say appliance trends are still higher than they were pre pandemic, but those should come down over time. So again. The Q3 was basically mostly H back Favre Bill with yes.
Yes, when it comes to pricing Corey.
That is scary.
Think what we've looked at us as competitors have have gotten more aggressive and they are doing things like comparing our platinum highest price product to their middle price product and buying some games like that <unk> that is what it is we're trying to we're trying to pulse and some promotions as part of it.
Overall pricing strategy that drive units.
Part of this is consumer driven with all the talk of inflation and recession.
We're still a discretionary purchase as a home warranty.
Business. So we're just trying to fit that into is another lever in our in our marketing Arsenal. It's.
We we don't disclose when we're gonna do it we we run it Sitewide generally and you know with all of our marketing materials. So I think it's just part of the overall pricing strategy and you know it's it's designed to have.
Pulse you know drive some units most of that revenue benefits will come in next year, but we you know we have to manage this thing is.
Multiyear 12, 12 model business. So it's just part of the overall marketing mix in ways for us to try to drive ears.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Our next question is from the Lotto, Brian Fitzgerald from Wells Fargo. Please.
Please go ahead.
Thanks, guys and thanks for the incremental detailing the renewal rates by channel real estate seem stable and and what you pointed out to versus what you pointed out historically wondering if you could give us some context or direct to consumer and renewal channels, how the renewal rates there are coming in and.
Also anything on seasonality that 72% blended rate is that normal.
And ER seasonality and how shall we view that in context of 75 per cent reported on a on a trailing 12 months, we should we expect that T T ever figured it to round out.
So.
The renewal are you talking to retention of renewal you're Terry renewal here, Yeah. So let me do it all over again.
Mhm I still can't figure out the difference.
<unk> knows about it every time, but when it comes to renewal rate, which is you know how many customers. We have today, where is where we had a year ago actually overall, it's been trending slightly positive which is a these are numbers that are pretty stable. So when you can get a blip going in the right direction. It's a good thing in terms of where it's at right now.
<unk> I think where we feel like really good place.
And.
I think we said and described the.
Renewal rate.
Even picked up a little bit. So I think we're we're generally pleased with the stability we have there, especially during these strange times.
But as far as retention goes for anything you want to comment on that.
Yeah, I know, we we probably confuse you a little bit, giving you both metrics, but they're different and no. The renewal rate is really a ratio of customers you began a period with and and the period with retention is a little more complicated because it includes additional cause you know customers added during the period. So that that's really a difference between the two and.
Actually our retention rate is running fairly well at 75%. This year visa cooperates cancels too right, yes, see I'm learning along the way Brian Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah absolutely.
<unk> point are cancels are trending favorably so that explains some of our benefit.
For retention rate at this point.
Got it <unk> a second question was on the preferred contractor network is it fair to assume that some of your contractors are saying slowdown in some of their other demand channels and and how does that play out in terms of the rates are able to pay and your ability to recruiting too.
The preferred network.
I don't think we're seeing we're not here I'm not hearing that Brian I don't know if you know that their demand is slowing I think people are still looking for for a contract with overall. So we're we're not we're.
We're not seeing and I hear I hear where you're going into those are a benefit that with a crude oil. So if their demand is slowing so I've I've heard that so I don't think that's that's a consideration right now.
Great Okay.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you thanks, Brian .
And the next question is from the line of just in person of Keybanc.
Justin Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you very much and good morning to if I can uhm.
A positive comments on the annual rate could you talk about how measures of customer satisfaction are trending in other words, some frustration with contractor availability earlier in the year trying to get requests resolved. So I'm curious if the combination of lower class this quarter plus some operational improvements that are driving faster turnaround times and.
Customer satisfaction.
Stop there and then follow up after that spots.
I think right now things are.
Similar to where the rates are is they're stable at this point I think we've had a a.
Good year for the for the service operations team I think that would come through.
The high season, there's always one off situations that you know we haven't.
Gotten too, particularly some of the acute situations, where the Patriots. She goes out and very hot climates, but generally I think our customer satisfaction as hell.
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We got better this year with a lot of our internal metrics.
Customer.
Customer service, so right now I think.
We're in a good zone are always looking to improve but right now it's stable along with the other measures.
Got it and then for the follow up.
Interested in your comments about.
About <unk>, having day use home service plans more to move and then Tori in this type of environment, you're starting to see higher attach rates at home service plans at any quantification of just what that that delta looks like the incremental uptake.
Step back and you look at that for decades of data that front door has how should we think about the potential uplift from both the ship the more of a buyer's market and play and then also just the the extra partnership that you have like real estate channel to augment that thank you.
Yeah. Thanks, Justin I don't think we're at a physician, yes to quantify and frankly I think you know just feels our chief of sales is a very close very well known in the industry or is very close to Denver major partners.
I think they're trying to figure it out too because you know the.
Shift has been so.
<unk>. So severe you know in terms of some of the numbers that we saw from the.
And then you know what we anticipate seeing of October .
So I I don't think we're to a point, where we can we can look at that I I'd love to be talking about uplifting real estate. That's for sure and just is working hard on their team on that but I think that this is almost in real time that.
The brokers and agents are realizing they're gonna have to.
Improve their lifting the improve the appeal of listings for a year and a half or so they could roller ball on the court and decided to go play.
Now it's back to a competitive market where buyers have more choice. So we're still working through that because it has been so abrupt even in the time since I took over here the real estate shift has been pretty abrupt so.
It's been motion right now and I think it's a fair question to ask but I don't think we're at a physician to for any qualification.
Fair enough. Thank you Bill.
Thanks dosing.
And our next question is from the line of Eric Sharon from Goldman Sachs. Eric. Please go ahead.
Thanks for taking the question maybe just just one if we could go back to sort of the revamped.
Marketing strategy can you give us a little bit more color on on what that might mean in terms of channels, where you're getting optimistic in terms of engaging in with marketing dollars could possibly drive better outcomes as we move out of 2200 23, what about have impact in terms of the type of channel mix or or distribution you get for the product over the long.
Term and how should we be thinking about marketing R. O Y in general based on what you've learned I had of revamping the marketing strategy. Thanks.
Yeah, I'm Gonna I'm Gonna give you hopefully or a comprehensive answer here because we're credit operate on a few different levels.
One of the things we're trying to do is there's a temptation to spend all your marketing efforts on.
New clients and new customers, especially in the D C area or the marketing keeps spending a lot of time on renewals and conversion there there I may have spoken about this.
And the last call, but we're in the midst of trying to intercept if you will or identify potential non-renewals earlier.
Surprisingly in almost counterintuitively.
People, who don't have a claim are at risk of non renewal because there is a little bit of why do I why do I need this service in a in a peculiar way, we actually want you to call us because it does drive a longer term relationship, but there are other things that we can better indicators to us that enable us to get more.
Specific and more targeted by.
There's a high degree of complaints that there a long service times and we're trying to get smarter about that as they are in the middle of their contract to try to drive conversion.
<unk>, we have a big effort on.
Real estate you can see the difference in renewal rates by channel and we have made strides in real estate over the last year or so that 29% number is actually up a few points I know, we haven't talked about this before but this.
This is this is really an important area for us because we have captive clients you know people who are in our business. So the marketing team is working a lotta and conversion and renewals now when it comes to a D. C C.
We are testing, some new creative and and promotions and we're we're looking at some work with rather than go to a affiliate network. We're working directly with some really good affiliates partners. So that we're not we're gone directly to them and we are showing some promise with that.
We are also as I talked about using our new pricing and discounting strategies to try to drive units. There. We're defaulting the lead product to gold so that we tried to drive.
People out with a with a you know, they're all great products, but at a lower price product.
And what we're trying to do is is even in in our in.
In our funnel as people come into the come into the final we have made some changes.
I think we are trying to get too much information early in the bundle we wanted to get people a quote earlier in the process to reduce friction in the in the in the bundle. So that's something on the website that we're working on trying to make that so that people can get quicker into the into the product and overpriced et cetera, and then finally from.
Sales perspective, we've been Optimising, so call scripts and the like to.
To try to get a better use it when we get to lead to see if we can convert better. So those are all steps that we're taking you know it's pretty comprehensive it's not just a matter of you know just let's go spend more money with it.
And search engine marketing, where we are we are doing that we talked about the rates earlier, but we're trying to do some things that are much more targeted much more specific than they are in the overall marketing mix.
Super helpful. Thanks.
Thank you.
Thanks.
And we have no further questions to ask and cruise the Q&A session.
Nice and gentlemen, thank you again for joining front does that course of 2022 earnings call today's call. When is now completed.
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