Q3 2022 Tractor Supply Co Earnings Call
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My pleasure to turn the call over to Hal.
Thank you Mary Winn and thank you to everyone for joining us this morning.
Behalf of tractor supply I'd like to extend our deepest sympathies and support to our communities and team members impacted by Hurricane Ian.
Our store teams, our distribution centers and the store support center have done a tremendous job supporting our customers and communities. During this tragic time.
The team's dedication at times like this helps make us the dependable supplier our customers can count on.
I am thrilled to report that just over a week ago on October 12, we closed on the transaction to acquire <unk> farm and home.
We welcome the <unk> team to tractor supply.
We're very pleased with the 81 high quality locations that will be converted to tractor supply over the next 15 months.
While agreeing to the remedy with the FTC took longer than we anticipated the outcome is in line with our expectations.
We are committed to providing customers in the Midwest region, with an expanded product assortment and meaningful loyalty offering an enhanced digital shopping experience and so much more that tractor supply is able to offer.
Two and a half years have passed since COVID-19 emerged through the United States.
With this quarter's results, we have now posted 10 consecutive quarters of exceptional sales growth.
And from my perspective, the highlight of this impressive track record continues to be the consistency of our results and the broad based strength of our performance.
Our three year comp sales stack in the third quarter was approximately 46% in line with the second quarter and.
And including new stores, our overall revenue growth on a three year basis has increased 65%.
Our addressable market continues to benefit from numerous secular trends that we believe are structurally sound.
Additionally, by all measures, we are gaining substantial share in our market.
We've had tens of millions of new customers shop at the past three years.
We've retained the majority of these customers and have a substantial portion have become active members of our neighbor's club program.
I commend the team for stepping up to every challenge at his comments over this time period.
Done a tremendous job maintaining their focus on the factors that we can control and all the while expanding our competitive mode through the advancement of our life out here strategy.
We continue to operate in an ever changing and challenging macro environment.
We can debate if we're in a recession so from our view real economic growth in the near to medium term will remain flattish and tepid.
On the positive side, a great sign as we're seeing moderation in supply chain bottlenecks.
However, inflation remains persistent and elevated and we anticipate this to continue well into 2023 with some moderation in the back half of 2023.
At the same time, the labor market continues to remain very constrained and we expect that this will remain the case for the foreseeable future, particularly on the frontline.
And as we move into next year, the labor market will be a key determiner of our country's ability to return our economy to sustainable conditions.
Turning to our third quarter performance the tractor supply team delivered another quarter of record results with net sales of eight 4% growth <unk>.
Comparable store sales increase of five 7% and diluted earnings per share of $2 10.
Our business continues to be incredibly resilient and the quarter unfolded much like we anticipated.
Now, let's go through some of the highlights for the quarter.
Our comparable store sales growth was driven by strong ticket growth of 7%, partially offset by a transaction count decline of one 3%.
As we shared entering the quarter, we anticipated that the drought would take some of the upside potential off our sales performance and that was exactly how the quarter played out.
By our estimation less favorable weather negatively impacted our comp sales by about 150 basis points.
As the drought in the heat conditions abated, we exited the quarter with strong momentum.
All months of the quarter Comped positive.
August comp sales were stronger than July .
And September was the strongest month of the quarter and we had flat comp transactions in the month of September .
E Commerce achieved sales growth in the high single digits, and we continue to build out our one tractor capabilities.
During the quarter, we added in App features such as my pet and upgraded our in store may and.
And we also rolled out inventory quantity visibility at the store level across all our digital properties.
For the sixth consecutive quarter, we continued to see our consumable usable edible products outperform our overall comp sales results.
And this is the third consecutive quarter for Q to run at about three times the rate of our overall comp sales performance.
This strong performance was driven by dry dog food and feed for poultry equine and wild birds.
Q continues to be one of our structural advantages.
And these products represent the strength of our core business and what drives trips and footsteps into our stores.
Our outperformance in year round categories offset the declines in our late spring summer seasonal product and big ticket categories.
We continue to gain share across all of our categories, both in store and online.
Our neighbor's club membership this quarter exceeded 27 million members.
And it represented nearly 75% of our sales for the quarter.
Neighbor's club continues to successfully help migrate customers up in their spending with us.
And during the quarter, we reached an all time high and high value customers.
In August we rebranded person to person by tractor supply.
In August we also rolled out the neighbor's club program to pet since by tractor supply stores.
This expansion will deepen relationships with our existing customers and helped attract new pack customers to both banners.
And while it's early we are very pleased with our customers' response to these initiatives with our neighbor's club membership already representing over 35% of sales at <unk>.
For the third consecutive quarter, our overall customer satisfaction scores hit a new all time high as we continue to invest in our team to provide best in class customer service.
We ended the quarter with our inventory in great shape.
As we've said many times.
We'd like to have more inventory and we're now working hard to grow inventory in targeted categories to improve our in stock position and service that dependable supplier for our customers.
We continue to stay true to our LP routes.
And our promotional activity in the third quarter was below the prior year's third quarter.
We've made significant progress in our life out your strategy.
We now have over 500 stores that are in our project fusion layout.
And our Garden Center transformation is now active in over 260 locations.
We continue to be pleased with the strategic benefits and financial returns of these store level investments.
Given our performance through the third quarter, our acquisition of <unk> farm and home and our outlook for the fourth quarter, we are raising our sales and earnings guidance for 2022.
We'll share more details on our improved outlook later on the call.
Stepping back tractor supply is a unique highly differentiated retailer.
Our resilient needs based business model has a proven history of growing through very economic conditions.
Our customers and team members are dedicated to the out here lifestyle and.
They prioritize it as it is their authentic lifestyle.
Our customers over indexes homeowners landowners pet owners and animal owners.
We believe that the structural macro trends that have been benefiting us are long term and sustainable.
And as the market leader, we have substantial advantages and continue to gain share.
The investment in our life out here strategy is reaching critical mass and furthering our competitive advantage.
Simply said tractor supply has never been stronger.
And with that I'll now turn the call over to Kirk.
Thank you al and Hello to everyone on the call.
Our business continues to be incredibly resilient. This is a business that was built for all economic environments with stability in both revenue and earnings over multiple decades.
Comparable store sales have been remarkably consistent across all three quarters year to date.
All regions of the country. Once again delivered positive sales comps the geographic diversification of our store base worked to our advantage this quarter, the south Atlantic and mid Atlantic were our best performing regions.
As expected we did experience softer performance in select regions of the country impacted by the severe heat and drought in particular in the far west and Texas regions, which while positive lag the chain average for background July was the second hottest in 30 plus years.
And during August about 40% of the U S was under extreme drought conditions.
As Hal shared we believe that the less than ideal weather weighed on our transactions as well as our big ticket sales.
Much like the second quarter retail price inflation contributed about 12 points to our comparable store sales as the team continues to navigate the ongoing cost pressures across the supply chain.
The comparable average ticket growth of 7% benefited from inflation.
We offset by declines in big ticket sales and average units per transaction.
Big ticket sales performance, while positive on a two year stack was impacted by the severe drought and cycling two hurricanes in the prior year we.
We saw the largest impact in categories, such as generators zero turns and trailers.
Moving on to gross margin for the third quarter, our gross margin declined by 32 basis points to 35, 6% of sales.
Our price management actions and our other margin driving initiatives were able to offset the pressures from cost inflation and higher transportation costs.
With the continued robust growth in our key categories. We saw pressure on our gross margin as Q runs below chain average on gross margin rate.
In regard to inflation, while moderating we continue to see increasing costs in the commodity inputs in our product categories as well as underlying variables like higher labor wages and transportation costs impacting both us and our vendor partners we.
We have remained agile and nimble to manage all the complexity of today's environment.
<unk> managing cost increases at the SKU level through our price management actions and other margin driving initiatives.
The team has also been working to capture efficiencies in the supply chain to reduce miles continuing to limit promotions and leaning into the more efficient value provided through neighbor's club.
SG&A expenses, including depreciation and amortization increased 9% to the prior year's third quarter.
As a percent of net sales SG&A expenses increased 16 basis points year over year to 26, 3%.
This increase was in line with our expectations, primarily attributable to our strategic growth initiatives, including depreciation and amortization.
And hourly wage and benefit investments in both our stores and our distribution centers.
These items were partially offset by a moderation of COVID-19 response costs more normalized incentive compensation and leverage in our occupancy and other costs from the increase in comparable store sales.
Diluted EPS was $2 10, an increase of seven 7% from the third quarter of last year.
Our balance sheet remains incredibly strong at the end of the quarter merchandise inventories were $2 7 billion.
Representing a 19, 2% increase year over year in average inventory per store.
The increase reflects growth to support the robust sales trends along with the impact of inflation.
Looking at our inventory growth on a three year stack. It represents a 30% increase in average inventory per store compared to Q3 2019 meaningfully below our sales increase over the same period of time.
There continues to be select product categories, where we are still pursuing inventory, especially in Q <unk>.
Stepping back.
We believe our inventory position is in good shape.
Our strong balance sheet and the consistency of our free cash flow continued to be a position of strength for tractor supply, allowing us to invest in the business for growth and return cash to shareholders to further our financial flexibility. We just entered into a new five year credit agreement on September 30.
That increases our senior credit facility from $700 million to $1 2 billion.
We also added two new banks to our banking group, including our minority owned bank.
Moving now to our updated guidance for fiscal 2022, our updated guidance reflects the strong results for the first three quarters of the year and the positive momentum we see in our business continuing into the fourth quarter in.
In addition, we are incorporating the impact of our recent acquisition of <unk> pharma and health.
We are forecasting fiscal 2022 net sales of 14.06 to $14 12 billion.
Including about $75 million in sales from <unk>.
This is the first time in the history of our company that annual sales are forecast to be above 14 billion.
Comparable store sales growth is anticipated to be in the range of five 4% to five 8% for.
For the year, we now forecast an operating margin of 10, one to 10, one 5% in line with our prior guidance, but with modest pressure from the acquisition as the sales and earnings benefit from or some farm and home are offset by incremental transaction expenses and early integration costs.
We anticipate the impact of <unk> to be relatively neutral to operating income, while we expect a modestly negative impact on net income due to the interest expense associated with funding the acquisition.
Diluted EPS is now forecasting a range of $9 55 to $9 63.
This compares to our previous earnings range of $9 48.
To $9 60.
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We entered October with momentum with this updated guidance, we are forecasting comparable store sales growth for the fourth quarter of 5% to 7%.
We now expect to open approximately 60 to 70, new tractor supply stores, which is modestly below our outlook as we entered the year, we continue to be on track for 10% store openings in 2022.
Given the conditions of the real estate and construction industries, the cadence of store openings for tractor supply has shifted a number of the openings into the fourth quarter.
I gave the cross functional teams a lot of credit for completing over 250 projects. This year as they lay the foundation for 2023 and beyond.
Our new store pipeline continues to be solid and we expect to improve the cadence of openings in 2023 with more balanced throughout the year.
We remain committed to returning cash to shareholders through the combination of growing dividend and share repurchases for 2022, we remain on track for anticipated share repurchases in a range of $750 million to $800 million.
All of this customary we will provide our full guidance for 2023 at our fourth quarter earnings call.
We are early in our planning cycle for the next year.
I thought it'd be helpful to set the stage and share some preliminary insights and color into our thought process given that there are a few moving parts between 2022 and 2023.
Our business model has stood the test of time and has proven to be resilient.
We have significant confidence with 2023 on the horizon, we are well positioned for any consumer and economic environment.
Further we have consistent structural trends that will continue to benefit us we continue to invest in our lifestyle here strategy to capture this growth.
Now the discrete items that impact our earnings in 2023.
The lapping of the 50 <unk> week benefit this year and the accretion from <unk> acquisition.
As I've shared previously we forecast that the 50 <unk> week will add approximately one 5% growth in net sales and about 15 to the EPS This year.
As you saw our press release early this month, we expect Northland acquisition to be accretive to diluted earnings per share by at least 10.
When adjusting for the 2022 benefit from the 50 <unk> week and the accretion from the <unk> acquisition. We plan for 2020 Three's performance to be consistent with our long term EPS guidance of 8% to 11% with our bias at this point and planning towards the midpoint of our range.
Despite what might play out with the economy. This needs based demand driven characteristics of our product offering support our ability to deliver on our long term outlook.
We are making great progress towards our long term financial goals and we look forward to sharing with you. Our 2023 plans in more detail at our fourth quarter earnings call in January .
Now to wrap up we are continuing to separate tractor supply from the competition in.
In prior cycles, we have made investments that strengthen the company.
We believe the current environment is an opportunity for us to lean into our strengths and further expand our leads for years to come.
And with that I'll turn the call back over to Hal.
Thanks Kurt.
Tractor supply is a business with momentum.
As our customers prepare for cooler temperatures and the calendar shift of the fall and winter season, our stores are ready for the change.
From key categories like heating and insulated apparel, our merchants have brought newness with compelling value.
In our key categories, we have the right selection and our in stock as we continue to support our customers' lifestyles.
This year, we expanded our Halloween and harvest the core program with a great lineup to capitalize on our customers' love of decorating their homes with seasonal indoor and outdoor decor.
With more than 260 garden centers were showcasing the fall harvest season with everything from Hopkins demands and we'll be ready for the transition to the Christmas holiday season, with an expanded offering of outdoor decorations.
Despite the economic outlook, we are optimistic about holiday related sales.
From the calendar perspective, it's a good setup with 30 days this year between Thanksgiving and Christmas with Christmas falling on a Sunday.
We have a strong day after Thanksgiving game plan and compelling offers planned throughout the season.
Given the increasing financial constraints facing American consumers were excited in the coming weeks to introduce the tractor supply visa credit card.
This new co brand credit card will help our consumers earn more on their everyday purchases both in store and anywhere visa is accepted.
With the tractor supply visa card customers receive access to all the perks from the private label TFC personal credit card that they have such as 5% rewards on tractor supply purchases or special financing on purchases to $199 and up.
But they also will receive 3% and rewards on gas station grocery and vet purchases and 1% in rewards on all other purchases.
And all consumer card members with tractor supply received neighbor's club preferred plus benefits.
This is exciting progress on our journey to driving sales.
Building loyalty and adding more value to our neighbor's club membership and reducing tender expense through our credit offerings.
2022 is shaping up to be another great year for tractor supply.
With one quarter to go we are on track to achieve several monumental milestone in the growth of our company, including annual revenues in excess of $14 billion.
A store base of over 2100 tractor supply locations.
In a highly engaged workforce of 50000 plus team members.
That said, we are not resting on our laurels.
We have robust plans in place for 2023 to continue on our life out here strategic journey.
As we enter the new year, the transformation of our business has significant momentum.
Investments such as Neighbor's club, our fast program and our mobile App are at scale and providing dividends.
Our store investments are reaching scale and.
And we have compelling new growth vectors, such as the integration of <unk> and many other opportunities on the list.
With a healthy total addressable market of $180 billion tractor supply is well positioned to continue to gain market share while fulfilling our purpose as a company.
As we enter one of the busiest periods in retail my thanks, and sincere appreciation to each of our 50000 plus tractor supply team members for their dedication to our mission and values.
And with that operator, we'd now like to open the line for questions.
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Asking your questions. Our first question comes from the line of Elizabeth Suzuki with.
Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Your line is now open.
Okay.
Operator, we can go onto the next question.
<unk> declined as it come on.
Okay.
Can you give me we'll take the next one.
Okay.
Hi.
Sorry about that hey, guys.
<unk> mentioned that you would have liked to have had more inventory do you think that you left any sales on the table as a result of being out of stock.
Hey, good morning, and thanks for joining the call.
I think we're doing an excellent job on navigating inventory and managing it we don't feel like we're leaving any sales on the table because of it.
But I think we are at times incurring some higher cost to.
<unk> run the inventory through our supply chain.
Than we might otherwise and also just on the labor side, having to work the back room a little bit.
More frequently than normal the team's done an excellent job on it but if you look at kind of weeks of supply and kind of pallet load quantities.
We would be looking to continue to add inventory in our core businesses.
As we've talked about this is the <unk>.
Third consecutive quarter, where our <unk> business has performed at three X the chain average.
Dry dog food running well above 20% comps.
<unk> and other fee categories, running very strong as well and so.
All about keeping up with the customer and then building our supply chain for the future to make sure that we can continue to move the billions and billions of pounds of food and feed that we do every year and maintained as low cost as possible and we're very excited about our Navarro, Ohio DC opening up early next year that will give us a little more streamlined.
Supply chain and capacity.
To continue to serve our customers in life out here.
Great. Thank you I'll follow the rules and stick to my one question. Thanks very much.
Excellent.
Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Benedict with Baird. Peter Your line is now open.
Oh, Hey, guys. Thanks, Thanks for taking the question.
And I appreciate some of the some of the thoughts you guys gave your at least initially around around next year.
How I think we can appreciate how strong your businesses.
A lot of uncertainties on the macro front you alluded to that.
Earlier in your comments, how do you think about maybe for Curt as well here.
The companys ability to still land in that earnings algo in the event, we get a tougher economic environment maybe than than.
And what your base cases, where are the levers.
How do you think about managing the business in that environment. That's my question. Thanks.
Yeah, Hey, Peter Thanks for joining the call today.
Talk with you we feel very confident in our ability to deliver 2023 and continue to deliver on our long term targets.
If you look at the consistency of our business this year with a five 1% by $5 to $5 seven comp a strong outlook for Q4 very consistent in a economy. This year that you would argue really is stagflation kind of flattish real growth high single digit inflation.
And as we look towards next year, our expectation it will be much of the same.
What I would say and consequently, our business, we'll be able to continue to be will continue to be very resilient and stable.
The other thing I would add is.
We talked about in our prepared remarks.
Many of our investments are just now starting to reach significant scale and we expect that they will pay substantive dividend next year. We're now at over 500 stores in our fusion lay out seeing very strong results. There. Many of those will be comping for the first time next year same thing on garden centers.
260, <unk> many of those came online just the beginning of this year. We expect they will just like we saw in the first year class. They will have a new store kind of maturity curve like.
Sales growth and so we expect really strong results out of those garden centers as we head into next year, we've gotten much better at rolling out our remodel programs and we've got a number of garden centers queued up for implementation and execution before we get to spring of next year. So we feel like the economy is stable.
Our outlook on the economy is not much different than what it is right now we expect our business to continue to be very resilient and allow us to deliver our long term targets.
And as I said are our life out here strategic initiatives are really reaching scale now and.
The benefit that we've talked about are starting to kind of really add up across our store base.
Okay.
Great. Thanks very much.
Thanks Peter.
Thanks for your question Peter.
Next question comes from the line of Scott, Michigan with Cabot.
Scott Your line is now.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.
So I just wanted to you guys continue to kind of expand out your Tam.
And maybe I missed it over time, but we've been coming across a lot of vet clinics in your stores and I was just wondering with you.
Is that a big initiative again, maybe I missed it and what do you think that can add.
Kind of as we go forward.
Yes, Hey, Scott, it's good to get to.
Talk to you today and thanks for joining the call.
That clinics are a.
A core part of our fusion.
What kind of menu and as we go into execute effusion store.
Look at the existing mobile clinic.
Activity.
And if it warrants given the not the frequency of visits and the customer count if it warrants a standalone vet clinic, we are putting those in.
And they've been very successful.
And are just really another value added feature to support our pet business as we talked about are we are gaining substantial share impact.
For the last handful of quarters, we've run 10 to 15 points above the market growth rate in Pat and even as you're hearing others talk about the pet business starting to moderate we arent seeing that at all in our businesses and it's because we're gaining substantial share that share gain starts with the core basics.
Customer service in stock the right price strong private label brands, but then as certainly augmented with our other offerings, whether it's pet wash, whether it's the vet clinics.
And our RF solutions, which are available online and the pet businesses, a strong source of growth for us and we expect it will continue to be as we go forward.
For them, we can go into the next question.
Absolutely. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Forbes with Guggenheim Partners. Steven Your line is now open.
Good morning, I wanted to focus on member trends. So I was curious if you can discuss any incremental learnings around retention.
Our repeat behavior, specifically as it pertains to the 2020 remember cohort as they approach their second anniversary and then maybe just quickly comment on whether you view, the 2021 or 2022 cohorts any differently.
Yeah, Hey, Steven and good morning, and thanks for the call and the question.
We continue to be.
Very pleased with our Neighbor's club program and more broadly.
Our customer relationship management.
<unk> had over the last three years that the neighbor's club rollout that we did nearly two years ago now year and a half ago now has exceeded our expectations.
We've had tens of millions of new customers shop us over the last three year three years and the majority of those customers continue to shop with tractor supply.
And a majority of those that have continued to shop attract supply have also joined our neighbor's club program and been a big driver of our membership growth as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we had the highest level of high value customers. This quarter that we've ever had and a lot of those are new customers that have grown with us over the.
Last two and three years.
And as we gain new customers also in 'twenty, one and 'twenty. Two they are following that that kind of continued kind of above historical average performance both in there kind of <unk>.
Average purchase sizes in a year their frequency of purchase with US and also the expanding number of categories that they're shopping with US also and I think this has been a big area of success for US is and it's really what's been able to create.
Create that foundation for us to have.
Held the 65% growth in sales we've had over the last three quarters I mean last three years.
You think about a lot of other businesses that had similar new customer growth that have given back much of that.
That growth that that's not been the case with us.
We firmly believe that the secular trends that have benefited us had been are structurally sound that the share gains. We again are structurally sound and a lot of it has to do with our very sophisticated CRM capabilities that are far and away kind of best in class overall in retail and certainly in our market.
Thank you.
Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from the line of Chris <unk> with J P. Morgan Chase. Your line is now open.
Thanks, very much and good morning, So can you talk a little bit more about the shape of the quarter.
September seven comp and as we look forward should the inflation lift moderate along the lines of the comparison, but then traffic turned slightly positive.
Or does the persistence of wage inflation lead to.
Acceleration in the inflation stacks over the next.
Three or four quarters as you can see it today.
Yes, good morning, Chris and how are you we had.
We exited at so as we mentioned September was our strongest month of the quarter.
<unk> outperformed relative to the overall average obviously and <unk>.
Flat comp transactions.
It is we have had that momentum continue and even a little bit more coming into the fourth quarter here.
Certainly been cooler weather for the first first month of the quarter here.
And Thats, driven nice heating sales and insulated outerwear sales and heating fuel sales as you know are some big businesses for us in the fourth quarter our propane.
And wood pallet and just given the high energy costs that are out there the cooler weather that's already begun the angst that our consumers have around inflation some of the concerns around how European energy prices might be back in the United States. There is we are off very optimistic.
How those categories will play out in the in the fourth quarter.
And also optimistic around how the flat comp transactions in September will play out for the fourth quarter as well for us and we feel like.
If you look back over the first nine months of the year.
There are numerous months, where we had flat or positive comp transactions and the ones, where we didn't you really can identify them through either stimulus brought in March and April of last year.
Or whether it was the drought and heat related activities or the delayed spring through Q1 and Q2, but if you look at January February et cetera, and then you look at how we exited in Q3 and a couple of slices of the months in Q2, where we had flat to positive comp transactions, we feel very good that those sorts of trends will extra.
Late into Q4 as it relates to inflation.
We do anticipate that there'll be some moderation towards the back half of next year, but if you look at our two year stacks on inflation and carried that into the first half of next year, we do anticipate that inflation will remain at elevated rates.
Through at least the first half of next year and I think that's reasonably consistent with the overall kind of macro U S outlook as well.
We do feel really good about our comp transactions now as we head into the fourth quarter and the momentum that we have going into the fourth quarter.
Thank you very much best of luck.
Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from the line of Scot Ciccarelli with Chile, Scott. Your line is now open.
Thank you and good morning, guys.
So previously I think you've touched a little bit on this earlier, maybe on Peter's question and historically you guys provide some expectations.
The impact to your future Remodels and sidewall transformations I'd now with them, let's call. It significant experience under your belt I was hoping you could potentially update us on any other stats that you're kind of seeing out of these initiatives.
Any other important learnings that you've been able to conclude.
Yes.
Yes, Hey, Scott good morning, and thanks for joining the call and thanks for the question. We continue to be very pleased with our store remodel program.
And on the sales side they continue to perform at the at the level of results that we articulated at the beginning of this year. So that's for a combo store that has both fusion and sidelight included inclusive of a garden center. They are performing in the high single digit lift year over year.
<unk> net of control and when you look at our store, we've only done fusion, they're performing in that mid single digit lift and as we all know it hasnt helper for decades now when you first started store remodel program, because youre handholding, it youre going to get nice lift, but then as you start to scale.
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A lot of times, those lifts will start to diminish and moderate a bit that has not been the case with us. We're now at 500 fusion stores and over 260 garden centers and we continue to see that same type of lift even as we reach scale real tribute to our team on the execution operations and then <unk>.
During that we've got the right programs as we roll those out.
Other learnings our customers are taking note of these remodels.
We're seeing our customer satisfaction surveys, we're seeing overall increases after the remodel we're seeing kind of questions like the the condition of the store the appearance of the store many of our customers qualitative Alaska.
Updated the store and they notice it and the same thing on the garden centers, we're seeing many new customers shop, our business want to rollout a garden center much higher female penetration much higher millennial penetration and we're seeing it be a driver of footsteps into our stores and kind of starting the next kind of version of acute category in.
Our business and that being that being live goods I think the big learning for US has been on call. We continue to challenge ourselves on our rollout timing in our costs. We continue to reduce the length of time required to roll one of these out that minimizes the disruption cannibalization and we're also continuing to bring down the costs.
Optimization of our fixtures optimization of our construction plans.
And particularly in the Garden center our designs there. So if anything we feel like the performance is better than it was nine months ago kind of equivalent if not better sales lift and customer reaction and we continue to find ways to bring costs down on the program. So we're very pleased with the Remodels and excited to continue to roll it out to the next set of stores.
Next year and continue to bring into our whole store base.
Excellent. Thanks, a lot guys.
Thank you. Our next question is from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley Simeon Your line is now open.
Good morning, everyone.
I wanted to ask about strategic growth initiatives with regards to either Capex and SG&A as it flows through the P&L can you give us a sense is the business at the top of a spending cycle now with a lot of the changes that have brought in over the last few years or do investments in SG&A do they.
Step up do they moderate or are they do they decelerate from here.
Hey, Simeon this is Kurt good morning to you and everybody on the call in regards to our investment cycle two.
<unk> 2022, 2023 is really been viewed as to your point a peak in that investment cycle, we will be opening up Navarro, Ohio as Hal mentioned earlier, we will be building the mall Mel Arkansas distribution Center in 2023, and we will continue our path.
On this cadence for the existing store Remodels under the fusion program.
<unk> 2023 is really a bit of that peak, but it's been planned that way with the growth in depreciation that we've seen this year roughly mid to high 20%.
We expect to see in 2023 about a similar year over year growth rate moderating that growth rate over time. So our SG&A is we've got great visibility to it we feel confident to the point that Hal mentioned on cost.
And the the pressures from the investments we also see the offsets to that in SG&A that we've got in regards to leveraging on these the comp sales.
I'm thrilled about the maturity and the development of the culture and the organizations view on profit improvement.
We are.
We've got a lot of great things in the works right now not only on the supply chain side and how we can continue to leverage the investments there to drive improvements in gross margin.
What we can do through procurement and how this organization is focused on driving efficiencies and productivity in the stores and in our distribution centers. So.
To wrap that up yes, there continues to be pressure from of investments in the business very much as we expected, but we've got also in the trend rate the expectations of the offsets to it which is how we see SG&A generally playing flattish as a percentage of sales going forward.
Thanks, Curt good luck everyone.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Oliver Winter Manto with Evercore ISI Oliver Your line is open.
Yes, Thanks, and good morning, I had a question regarding trade down if you've seen any of that in within categories.
And if you expect promotions to step up in the fourth quarter.
Hey, Oliver this is Seth good morning, thanks for joining the call.
Hey, when we look at trends in the category today, we're not seeing any meaningful trade down at.
At this time.
In fact, if you look at our kind of portfolio strategy, we've got a very balanced portfolio across.
Opening price point, all the way up to our premium segments within our category strategies and we continue to see strength across all three categories. One of the things that's very encouraging though as well is north of our 20% store owned exclusive brands that we have we're really starting to see our.
Our customer base really really dive into our exclusive brands in our exclusive brand penetration in Q3 was up 130 basis points over the prior year as they're really navigating.
Our premium value oriented segments of our exclusive brand and really driving loyalty and that's something you'll see us continue to lean in on the balance of this year, but even more importantly, as we look into 2023 is how we continue to go after that loyalty factor relative to our portfolio strategy and driving both the innovation across all three product tiers, and then really really lean.
Into exclusive brands.
On the promotional cadence in activity you will see is very similar to last year. I mean, we've got over 27 million members in our neighbor's club today, we're really leaning into that capability is really hitting our stride on diving in to that dataset.
Being very smart with our promotional activity, but also make sure that we're pulsing the market relative to black Friday and some other things with just some great offers that we partner with some of our key suppliers on so youll see some messaging there as well, but our promotional activities should be consistent with what you've seen recently over the course of the last couple of years has really been focused on our <unk>.
<unk> approach and making sure we're gaining market share in our central businesses.
Got it thanks, very much and good luck.
Thanks Oliver.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kate Mcshane with Goldman Sachs.
Your line is now open.
Hi, good morning, Thanks for taking our question just.
Just now that the transaction is closed I wondered if you could talk any more about lean in and how you plan to integrate that and what you see in <unk>.
The future for the <unk>.
One starting to you are now taking on.
Hey, Kate.
Good morning, and thanks for joining the call and thanks for your question on <unk>.
Start out by just reiterating my prepared remarks, that's we're thrilled to have joined tractor supply.
While the transaction took longer than we anticipated the outcome was very much in line with our original expectations on the remedy that would be necessary.
We are already well underway to welcoming them into the company and starting to map out our plans for converting those stores to tractors to the tractor supply brand.
We will be basically executing the fusion and garden center remodel programs in those stores and.
And obviously there'll be a little extra it involved with them in terms of new signage for our named nameplates and some updating of fixtures and painting of the walls and such like that but we will we our plan is to have all that accomplished by the end of next year.
At the same time, we are excited to learn from <unk> on a number of categories, where they play differently than we do in terms of.
Distortions and on the same side, we think there's a lot of opportunity for us to take some of our best practices to them to their stores. One in terms of and then driving dollars per square foot up closer to where we are because they are at about 50% of where we are in a $1 per square foot and off and because they are less.
$1 per square foot the op margin percent on a per store basis is lower as well. So we're optimistic that we can raise that over time as well and so there is some sales synergies over time there'll be some op margin synergies over time.
And then additionally, we will be bringing our brand awareness to that business.
Well over 80% with unaided and aided to gather and things like our Neighbor's club program. Our digital capabilities. So we're really excited to have him join us gives us a great additional footprint in the Midwest. We're excited about transitioning those stores to the tractor supply brand and then bringing kind of the whole of tractor supply.
To those stores and ultimately.
Most importantly to our customers there in that area of the country.
Thank you.
Thanks Kate.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chuck Grom with Gordon Haskett Research Advisors Alright, Chuck Your line is now open.
Hey, Thanks, a lot most of my questions been asked.
I was curious on supply chain health and Kurt you talked about some relief on that front I guess I'm curious the lag.
And how long we should anticipate it.
To start to see some freight relief ocean container cost start to show up in the P&L.
Chuck Hey, this is Kurt good morning, yes.
On transportation cost is how indicated.
We are seeing both domestic and to an extent imports those costs beginning to moderate as the demand on the overall global supply is starting to ease. So we are taking advantage of that to your question about the timing of it too.
Two factors one its got to work its way through the pipeline so.
We could start to see cost in early to mid 2023, reflecting newer.
Improved transportation costs and Thats from two factors not only selling through the cost of goods that have the the peak cost in them. Currently today, two we work off of and advantage off of longer term contracts and so what the team is doing and has been doing is as the.
Demand on supply on the supply chain and transportation eases, our negotiations on those costs. So as we begin to see overall contract prices come down those will start to go through the pipeline and in transportation in the long term 2023 and beyond we do see that as one.
The areas of efficiency one of the areas that does help us and as part of our algorithm in gross margin expansion over time as we come off some of these peak transportation costs, but do see about a six to nine month process not only to get inventory through that.
The supply chain, but to be able to be working off of new and lower contracted costs.
Great. Thanks, Kurt.
Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Lasser with UBS. Michael Your line is now open.
Good morning. This is <unk> on for Michael Lasser, Thanks, a lot for taking our questions I have.
A follow up question for you on inflation, you mentioned that inflation is likely to moderate in the back half of next year, but what are the chances that it could be deflation, especially given.
Even though there are signs that some costs are coming in.
There is deflation how would you expect your PNM to react to such backdrop, I guess back in $2016 17, a few quarters of sluggish comp.
And because of some deflation, but how is the business unit that could help you navigate on eastern shrink back up.
What's your second.
Yes, good morning, and thanks for the question.
We don't foresee a scenario of deflation in any near term time horizon.
'twenty three oriented into 'twenty four.
If you look at where our retailers are now and just flow those through into the first half of the year, we're going to be at mid to high single digit inflation and then fully expect that that will moderate into the back half both as we start to navigate reducing cogs increases but also.
So hopefully as the economy.
PPI and CPI and other kind of inflationary indexes start to moderate as well, but I don't foresee at all a scenario of deflation in the near future in any time horizon over the next few years.
What I would say on.
On some of those commodity based products.
We're well past just kind of core supply demand out there in the market is moving like they had 456 years ago in a normal environment, we're now in a market where.
Even they've got higher input costs, whether it's fertilizer and et cetera that just does not come down and even if it comes down it's only coming down in a moderate way they've got higher labor cost.
10, 15, 20 points above a couple of years ago and there is significant capacity constraints I mean, if you look at pet food, there's significant capacity constraints in the pet food market right now so that's going to limit cost that's going to limit any cost decreases that com.
The dynamics of the way the supply demand is shaping up right now.
And then when you factor in non U S markets and all the risks there whether its debt in South America or certainly in the middle East Eastern Europe , with Ukraine, and Russia and the difficulties.
War there.
I just don't foresee a market at all where commodities are moderating to the point, where theyre driving subsidy of deflation in our businesses.
I don't see that in the cards at all.
Super helpful. Thank you for that and good luck with the fourth quarter.
I think we've got time for one more question.
Okay perfect. Our final question will come from Brian Nagel with Oppenheimer, Brian Your line is now open.
Hi, good morning, nice quarter congrats.
Thanks, Brian for the question I have.
Well clearly I mean, clearly tractor supply is performing remarkably well here and this is despite.
Some macro headwinds out there because the question I have is.
As we look into 'twenty three or whenever.
Macro conditions were to worsen and start to start to impact somewhat trends attractor are there levers or what were the levers that you either your quarter, you would pull either from a cost standpoint, or maybe a merchandising perspective to better tailor your business to that type of environment.
Yeah, Hey, Brian and thanks for the question and.
Thanks for the remarks on our quarter, we're very optimistic around Q3, I mean around 2023.
As I mentioned earlier.
On the revenue side many of our initiatives are just starting to really reach kind of scale that you can kind of quote unquote see from space.
Think about 500 fusion stores now 260 garden centers that continued strong lift we're seeing with those as we round into next year, we anticipate that those will continue to help fuel our business and if there is any sort of.
Further degradation of the economy that they could help fill in some of those cracks.
We also anticipate that our core competitors.
If the economy weakens further we will we will face increasing financial difficulties and that will only be further opportunity for us to go gain share. So we feel very good on the top side around 2023, and our ability to gain share and grow and do that within the context of our long term guidance.
And then on the cost side.
While there is a bunch of goes ins and goes out.
While we performed well in the last few years that hats off to the team for managing our operating margins. There's been a lot of inefficiencies in our cost base in the last couple of years higher container costs higher freight costs, having to open up pop up distribution centers freight arriving.
And not on the day and time that we anticipated in the back of the stores are having inefficient labor in our stores to do tasking.
As we move into 2023, we fully anticipate that our business will be the most streamlined from a supply chain perspective, all the way from the manufacturer into the stores and on our shelves that it's been in three years and so we're optimistic on that from a cost perspective being able to help.
Help us help drive our overall profitability and our margins.
Again, very confident as we turn into 2023 here one quarter to go but a lot of momentum as we enter Q4 here now and we expect that that will be the cases.
<unk> transitioned into 2023.
Sure.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks, Brian .
Thank you.
For your question. This concludes our Q&A session for today's call I will now pass back to Mary Winn Pilkington for closing remarks. Thank you.
Thank you for them and thank you for everybody for joining our call Marianne and I will be around today have any remaining questions. Please feel free to reach out and.
At Q4 in January and thank you for your interest in tractor supply.
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