Q3 2022 Liberty Media Corp Earnings Call
Welcome to the Liberty Media Corporation third quarter, 2022 earnings conference call.
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I would now like to turn the call over to your host Courtney Chun Chief portfolio Officer. Please go ahead.
Thank you and good morning, before we begin we'd like to remind everyone that this call includes certain forward looking statements within the meaning of the private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 995.
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Liberty Media's website now I'd like to turn the call over to Greg Maffei, Liberty's President and CEO .
Thank you.
Good morning today speaking on the call. We'll also have formula one's president and CEO Stefano Cao and.
And Liberty's, Chief accounting and principal financial Officer, Brian Wendling.
So let me start with Liberty Sirius XM.
Last quarter, we discussed our intention to reduce debt <unk> I mean, we took actions during the third quarter, we opportunistically repurchased about 21% of the one and three eighths faster convert combining prudent debt management and effective share buyback.
One paid $64 million in battery paid $14 million to LLS.
Their respective intergroup interest.
The remainder of the purchase was funded with our cash and $27 million from <unk>.
Unwind of a bond hedge and warrant.
Effectively this was a share repurchase across the LFC equities with a $179 million effective cost to repurchase four 5 million <unk>.
A shares and $1 $1 million and 500000 backdrop intergroup interest shares effectively repurchased.
We are still hedged on the remaining exposure.
Under that convert with our intergroup interest.
Turning now to Sirius XM itself.
They reported solid third quarter financial results, despite the macro factors impacting the business.
The resilient sub base experienced a record low churn of one 5% revenue was up 4% and EBITDA was flat as we continue to make investments, including and product development.
Despite the soft auto sales, we continue achieve vehicle penetration.
And enabled fleet of approximately $150 million.
Sirius XM also set out strong cash flow business and guidance for the year full year guidance for 2022.
We continue to monitor headwinds in advertising and the reduced.
So our impact on the top of the funnel.
Sirius is also making progress in our streaming business September was one of the biggest streaming sub acquisition months have experienced to date.
And we continue to add exclusive and diverse content both in and out of the car for example, we extended the NFL agreement.
Sports is proven obviously be high appeal for new subs, both convert at a higher rate and a higher retention once they are obtained.
I'm trying to live nation.
I mentioned continues to see incredible demand with fans prioritizing spending on live events.
Versus 2019, Oi was up 45% and free cash flow was up 88%.
<unk> also beat last quarter's record for highest quarterly attendance with over 44 million fans across 11000 events.
<unk> spending was up 30% through September and U S amphitheaters.
Ticketmaster experienced all time high GTD, which was up 62% versus 2019.
Live is closing out a record year, but there was more growth to come.
With 115 million tickets already sold and sponsorship for 2023.
Up 30% over this point last year.
Turning now to the Formula One group.
We continue to come up with new analogies, which are familiar and ethylene continued to fire on all cylinders with incredible fan demand.
There is significant both in grandstand and patent club attendance with many sellouts and records broken.
Importantly, as we've invested there has been a continued growth also in the U S market.
With three races planned for next year, including our landmark Vegas race.
We also announced the renewal of our ESPN contract at a value, which was many multiples of the prior contract.
We also announced a record 24 week calendar for the coming year, including renewing in Monaco, where we have a three year agreement to keep out iconic right on schedule.
Renewing in Mexico City, where we have a three year deal.
Which highlights the value at one brings to all cities for example.
2015, and 2021 and.
The Mexico City Grand Prix generated $2 4 billion of economic activity and created created 57000 jobs.
We will continue to capitalize on the momentum in the business and.
An example, recently is thrilled that Apple is planned.
Which we think will be epic.
We have a star studded cast, including Brad Pitt, it's directed by Joseph Konwinski and it's produced by Jerry Bruckheimer All stars in their own right.
Very exciting.
At the corporate level, we refinanced both long convertible on attractive terms with fewer shares underlying the instrument and a lower initial conversion price of $86 six.
And now turning to the Braves.
<unk> finished and impressive season, securing their fifth straight NL.
<unk> title.
Finished $101 61 for the first time since 2003, they won over 100 games.
And it was an epic come back for the second half of the season as you may recall beginning.
Starting June we were kind of half games behind the mess.
From there we went on a major league best nearly 700 win rate.
Let's start with that June till the end of the season.
The fans had an incredible turnout.
<unk> 52 games sell out is the truest and more tickets sold.
At the stadium since we had done.
Flat in 2000.
Obviously.
The finale was not what we would hope.
I'll remind you we did win the World series last year, where for a few more weeks the reigning World series Champions and there are wonderful things that come from that but it also can lead to increased costs.
We think they ultimately create value for the franchise and fan engagement, which will drive revenue, but an increase cost side, a largest component has been reinvesting and increased payroll.
That sets us well, well well rather for future years, but other elevated costs from a record attendance and four additional home we have other elevated costs, rather from our record attendance and four additional home games at the truest ballpark.
There were also modest cost increases for post World series activities for example at Trophy tour and creating special merchandise.
And let me finish by talking about El Mech.
We recently sent out a press release announcing our vote for an early rewind.
While the results have not been what we wanted in terms of finding the deal that we thought was attractive I would tell you we evaluated over 140 targets.
The high valuations for 2021, the poor RP IPO market plus overall market volatility led us to the conclusion that we could not find a solid target with attractive valuation and return characteristics.
Finally, the recent tax law changes under the I already created.
Additional corporate liabilities, if we were to extend the unwind into 2023, and therefore, we took action to unwind and returned the capital to the investors in 2022.
And with that I'm going to turn to Brian to let him talk about our financial results in more detail.
Thank you, Greg and good morning, everyone.
At quarter end Liberty Sirius XM group had attributed cash and liquid investments of approximately $225 million.
Which excludes $39 million of cash held directly at Sirius XM.
There was also $1 3 billion of Undrawn margin loan capacity at the parent level related to our Sirius XM and my ambition margin models.
In September Liberty, Sirius XM group paid approximately $284 million to repurchase $210 million aggregate principal amount of the $1 37, 5% cash convertible notes. This was funded with $179 million of cash on hand, as well as cash from the Formula One group and <unk> group.
From the settlement of their intergroup interest held at Liberty Sirius XM corresponding to the amount of notes repurchased.
As a result, $1 1 million <unk> shares 500000 battery shares underlying the portion of their respective intergroup interest held by Alex <unk>.
Canceled.
Liberty Sirius XM group also received $27 million of proceeds from the net settlement of the bond hedge and warrants related to the repurchase of the convertible notes.
As of November <unk>, the value of the Sirius XM stock held at Liberty Sirius XM Group was $19 5 billion the value of the live nation stock held was $5 3 billion.
We have $2 8 billion in principal amount of debt against these holdings.
Total Alice exam group attributed principal amount of debt is $13 4 billion, which includes $9 9 billion of debt that's directly at Sirius XM.
Formula One group had attributed cash liquid investments and monetize go public holdings.
One 1 billion at quarter end, which excludes $1 1 billion of cash held at Formula One.
Total Formula One group attributed principal amount of debt was $3 5 billion, which includes the $2 9 billion of debt directly held at Formula one, leaving $567 million at the corporate level.
During the quarter, we issued 475 million aggregate principal amount of $2 two 5% convertible notes due 2020.
A portion of the proceeds from the offering were used to repurchase $213 million aggregate principal amount of the 1% fall in convertible notes due 2023, leaving just 27 million outstanding at the end of the quarter.
At one $500 million revolver is undrawn and formula one's leverage at the end of the world.
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As Greg mentioned Almac filed a proxy statement to obtain stockholder approval to unwind before year end Formula One group has incurred approximately 20 million in cost since <unk> IPO in January 2021 through the initial warrant investment subsequent working capital loans.
On online these are material investments will not be recoverable.
But the $250 million toward purchase agreement that Formula One group had committed to almac will be terminated.
On the Formula one operating business, we will remind you that <unk> is best viewed on a full year basis, given some volatility in the quarters.
One held seven races. During the third quarter is about 2021 and 2022.
Are there wasn't one additional flyway rates during Q3 of 'twenty, one with Russia, having taken place last year in France hosting a raise this year great.
Race promotion revenue decreased accordingly for the quarter, the flyway races, typically pay higher fees than European races.
As a reminder, we recognize D payment team payments pro rata across the race calendar in the quarter, where we recognize less revenue due to the mix of races. The team payment percentage may appear disproportionately larger.
At one also recognize higher other cost of revenue primarily due to one additional patent club operating in Q3 2022 and from the cost of servicing significantly larger paddock club attendances compared to the prior year period.
SG&A as a percent of total revenue was generally in line with historical averages for the third quarter. We did have modest increases in personnel costs due to change in the Companys Elsa from stock to cash based bonus program and increased headcount to support growth.
Looking at year to date revenue increased 35% and our adjusted OIBDA grew 43% with 140 basis points of margin expansion.
Finally at the Braves group at quarter end, we had attributed cash and liquid investments of $159 million, which excludes $15 million of restricted cash and branch group had attributed principal amount of six <unk> $601 million.
Liberty and our consolidated subsidiaries are in compliance with the debt covenants at quarter end.
With that I'll turn it over to Stephane.
Thanks, Brian the 2022 season has continued to deliver very impressive racing for all our offense and once again shows have been you've taken through regulation has to leave it at closer racing on the track that.
The incidence in tumor one is huge from fence potential partners and those who wants to host a race. We continue to believe that this is due to us taking the right strategic decisions to grow the sport in the correct way and to focus on the most important priorities.
<unk> just finished a couple of amazing we can see Mexico seating in Austin.
And the 2022 season has delivered at the exciting action on the track.
Most of US tapping that has been incredible this season setting the record for most leaning into season did in 14 ramp. These wins, so fighting's doesn't 'twenty two with this win in Mexico City last weekend.
We secure the second World Championship in Suzuka and then once the constructive championship the first since 2013.
The team dedicated the victory to Red Blue Thunder Dietrich, Massachusetts. He was a visionary who help those puma with sport and he will be missed.
Even with these championship settled there is still a battle among the drivers infrastructure as web they've finished can have a meaningful impact both financially and operationally.
Excitement for our support continues to grow.
Certainly we've seen that the race attendance and now had 10 bases with crowds over 300000 with three of those exceeded 400000.
Many of these events has been complete so sellouts.
A great example of growing incidence is Austin, where we welcomed 440000 fans across the event more than the double the attendance in 2019.
The promoter states that the ticket demand could that reached 500000, but for these focus on maintaining a high quality fan experience.
We've also seen more first time and he made attendance at our races.
Close to 10 basis, while we get the spectators that data this year.
First time attendees were about 50% of the total crowds.
And we've seen a surge in demand on the high end two with record sales in powder clip and our hospitality products.
These sorts of demand means our races slots at Haile Kobe and we were pleased to confirm the 2000 Twenty's vehicle ended a few weeks ago.
We were happy to renew our agreement with Monaco and will raise debt through 2025 with expanded rights for full one related to broadcast powder clip and sponsorship.
We also announced a one year renewal for Belgium, and the three year than you will from Mexico City.
You had mentioned that the economic benefits Epsilon has brought to Mexico City. Since 2015 has been incredible these.
This highlights the value of our sport can bring to see this globally. Additionally, we will increase the number of sprint's event in 2023 to six from the commentary.
These events that are in high demand from our promoters and provide additional sponsorship opportunities and value to our broadcast partners.
We'll announce the venues for those events.
We were thrilled to announce that I will do with joined <unk> in 2020 disease. They have selected <unk> as their strategic partners and plan to acquire a stake in the sub group, who will complete as of now the factory teams throughout 2026.
So I'm going to present, the global stage for the Audi brand and they see their high performance and competition, our sport as a driver of innovation and technology.
Audi was quoted attracted to F. One given our opposing sustainability and cost efficiency, which will aid in achieving their own sustainability goals.
It also shows the increasing value of the teams in the current environment.
Leaving by the stability provided under the new regulation and the growth of the sport, which everyone in Epsilon continues to benefit.
We are delighted to grow our partnership with AWS as we announced yesterday the expansion of our partnership with them, becoming a global partner for mobile.
We both share a passion for technological innovation and we work together to build the fan experience of the future view.
<unk> competed to tuning as well as we have seen substantial interest related to our media rights, we announced a partnership with Sky that extends rights in Germany.
In Italy until 2027, and the UK and Ireland until 2020 that Sky Sport. That's one we'll continue to be the only dedicated channel to broadcast the motorsport in each of these markets and they are highly rated commencing will be available in over 80 markets.
Sky has seen significant growth in their viewership. So far this season with average viewership in the U K up to 60% since 2019, Italy up to 20% 2021, and Germany up to 24 since 2021.
<unk> also seen attractive demographic shift with viewers, becoming more diverse and younger we also extended our U S agreement that we ESPN through 2025, they have been a great partner to us and with this new deal at least 16 races per year will add on either ABC or ESPN with old.
Broadcast commercial fleet.
<unk> hundred 18 races in 2022, they've seen an average audience of $1 2 million up from 99000 in 2021, the Miami Grand Prix through an evidence viewership of $2 6 million the largest U S. August saw a record 400 ICP. Additionally, we extended our agreement with <unk>.
And in 2026 and secure the partnership with Telcel and Telmex in Mexico to bring Epsilon TV Pro two subscriber who can easily add the service onto their existing content for mobile or Internet services.
The <unk> Pro championship presented by AMCOL with two full floor events each spanning over three years.
This includes more live show as the teams and the drivers battle for the $750000 Prize part similar to F. One we've seen several high profile drive as move across the board. We look forward to building on the incredible engagement for 2021, when we saw $4 5 million fans tuned in.
For the ground peanuts.
This year, we had $1 3 million players attempt to quantify almost three times the amount we had in 2021.
We continue to expand the way, we engage with defense and introduce the F 100, Kt loved them.
This is the first F. One license experiential venue, but patterns can be fully immersed with 60 motion simulators and experienced the thrill of racing, while enjoying and premium food and beverage offerings in the heart of London, We plan to rollout this conscious in additional cities.
And finally to further our progress to Netsuite formula to a formula three announced a partnership with Aramco to pioneer sustainable field through 2033. This is an important step to reach 100% sustainable fueled by 2026, which will be a requirement of all FAA championships.
<unk> have proven to be a great test bed for innovation as they were with the 18 aegis ties now using for more one we continued to show the innovation leadership in the technology space and believe that our sustainable fuels can have a huge real world benefits for the automotive sector and greenhouse gas emissions.
I want to thank the world's Epsilon <unk>, our plans and our investors for all the support this year to model. We are hosting a large part in Las Vegas at Caesars Palace, we are bringing the best places in the world to the entertainment capital of the World, including Alaska run on Las Vegas Boulevard, we look forward to completing the <unk>.
<unk> 2022 season, as we traveled to Brazil, and Abu Dhabi attitude that full speed ahead, and now I will turn the call back over to Greg Bye Bye.
Thank you Stefano and thank you Brian .
We look forward to seeing many of you at our annual Investor Day on Thursday November 17th.
Please visit the IR calendar on our website for registration details.
John Malone, and I will be hosting our annual Q&A session, if you'd like to submit questions in advance.
You can email investor at Liberty Media Dot com.
We appreciate your continued support of and interest in Liberty media and with that operator I'd.
Like to open the line for questions.
Thank you.
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Our first question comes from Doug Mitchelson with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Oh, thanks, so much Greg I just wanted to focus on Liberty Sirius XM Group I was just curious if you have any updated thoughts on the discount asset value and sort of options and timing of options too.
Improve that and and I guess as part of that specifically.
Curious if you could talk about the strategy around the live nation stake at Liberty and whether there's ways for liberty to create value with that stake beyond just being sort of an ongoing shareholder of live nation, which I'm sure you're bullish on but are there other ways for liberty to create value.
With that ownership stake thank you.
Well, Doug I think thank you for the question I think we've gone through.
Some of the options that are on the table and discuss them before and I am probably.
Unlikely to do that.
Both of them all again, but to say we are aware, we're paying attention we're taking actions.
To prepare ourselves for different choices.
Set ourselves up and when we have something to announce obviously will make the announcement.
I just want to reiterate we think live is very attractive.
We think that certainly the value was not fully recognized in <unk> and.
And we think there are things that businesses that are worthy to add onto live that could be interesting that are opportunities for us. So there is much we can do around that book around the livestock in particular, but im less likely to go through.
Who wants what we can do with <unk>, because I think we've covered those before.
Maybe Greg just a quick follow up you can help investors kind of shape timeframes as or are there things that you can do that you think are material and in the short term next 12 months are these things that will take longer to play out any thoughts around helping us with timetables timetables, Doug I'd give you full credit for persist.
But I think.
Thank you very much Greg.
Thank you Doug.
Our next question is from Bryan Kraft with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, Good morning, I've got one for Stefano and one for Greg that you may or may not answer, but I'll try.
I think.
I think on past calls when asked about the ATB status of Sirius XM. You said that you believe it is an H D. D. I was wondering if your conviction with respect to Sirius XM being an ATB has since increased can you say more definitively.
That actually does have ATB status and then Stefano your comments on the attendance increases I think were really interesting I think that the view on race promotion revenue historically has been that.
It's sort of a flattish type revenue outlook, given the high pricing on those deals and some challenged promoter economics, but with the increases in ticket sales in attendance you talked about and that must deliver a lot of values for motors do you think that that means race promotion revenue could become actually a significant and consistent revenue growth driver going forward.
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I'm going to let Stefan I'll cover attendants first and then I'll touch on the things I am not going to answer with you Brian .
Excellent okay. Thanks, Craig.
Well actually totally right the attendance increases just magnificent and set in terms of the well.
One is bringing mainly to new audiences and that is the business model. We are having with certain promote but is it more relates to the fact that there is a fee that they have to pay that is.
High end part of the ticket that is allow a site and everybody that there is not the challenge, but the opportunity to move forward.
How we can maximize the revenue and monetize the revenue that we can take from this type of it for one is becoming more and more effective that's really well we're going to do in the future. We have a different way to do it and I'm sure that we're going to capitalize this growth and the best way that we can in the next couple of years.
Thanks, Stefano so Bryan I'm going to give you confidence I'm going to restate I still believe Sirius XM is an ATB no change in our position.
Yeah.
These things tend to get resolved.
Firmed up at the time.
<unk> gets tested but that we still have that position.
Okay alright, thank you.
Our next question is from Jason Bazinet with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
I know you guys have always talked in the past about the flexibility that you have.
Trackers give you because you can sort of move assets and liabilities across.
Is there is there, but when I step back and think about sort of broader liberty. It feels like there is sort of a slow march towards asset backed securities right like eventually the terminal year.
It seems to me everything is gonna be asset backed.
Is that wrong.
Well. Thank you for the question, Jason I don't think we've really seen a change in our procedure. We think the tracker has real value and gives us flexibility, but our history has also been that we've created many many asset backed securities off the top of my head I can think of the midyear, which was effectively direct.
TB.
<unk> hub.
Expedia Liberty Expedia going to Expedia.
List goes on and we obviously break and curate off on its own.
Many many times and I think that's going back in my 17 years I'm not sure we've had a.
Diminishing in our interest in trackers or a change in our perspective and asset backed securities certainly have their value at the right time and place.
Okay.
Just sort of unwinding of shuttering.
Spak.
Sort of made you more in the direction of not needing flexibility or is that sort of a false interpretation.
Yes, I'm not sure I would read that interpretation I think it's a recognition of these things have a life.
The market at a moment in time, we thought there was an opportunity we couldn't find the one we wanted unlike many sponsors of Spacs, who we're playing for the carry we had committed real capital and were concerned about and aligned with our shareholders and wanted to have a good return.
Not just the top.
I think specs are obviously challenging for many reasons, both because of the market reaction right now and also because of the regulatory profile towards them. So that was the recognition of those factors not any statement about lack of optionality or flexibility or desire for that.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from David Karnofsky with J P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Alright. Thank you Stefano I wanted to see if you could expand a bit on your media rights deal with Sky what drove the decision to do that deal early in across multiple territories and then Greg just wanted to see if you could update on how youre thinking about use formula one's cash balance in light of your net leverage and decision on almac. Thanks.
Thanks, David I think Thats, what we talked about mid <unk>.
Is the landscape, whether we have to consider the evolution mainly in the new markets.
Is it becoming attracted fulfillment what in the more of the traditional mature markets I think that what we have taken a decision to invest in to be stable with sky means a lot because in terms of the other opportunity in these markets are largely the ones that can extend that from the financial that also for the one <unk> book to Bill and the consequent to.
Q1 for cheap it is clear that the.
The fact that we are growing.
Give us potential for the future to see how that kind of dimension volatility pay TV, but also other means that could be interesting for us could be attractive for our business of course, we want to make sure that for the future. The decision that is also the possibility to Florida, our echelon TV is growing tremendously well.
Incorporated in the offer to our customers. So that's really the strategy that we have taken so far and this is I would say if you go back to sky the recognition of the value of that investment for the development of our <unk>.
One content in the world.
Yeah.
Yes, if I could just add on I mean.
Reinforce the point Sky is a great partner.
Across three important geographies, but more than that they're a great partner in terms of their production.
Most of you here in the U S are watching the sky broadcast and I have to tell you I'm always very impressed with what they do and securing that and ensuring that good partnership for a longer period of time was attractive.
As far as what our uses of cash youre going to be we have a high quality problem that we have a great free cash flow generating entity in formula one.
We believe the potential to increase that over time.
You've seen us buy.
The back stock at various times at Formula One, but we also think there are potentially in this market opportunities for all the reasons that I talked about the difficulty in the market a non market.
<unk> are no need to do external financing ability to do something on our own could create interesting opportunities. So we will continue to weigh both the flexibility that were provided by those free cash flows and the delevering against share repurchase against other alternatives.
Iterative in the space like investing in our business at Las Vegas and outside opportunities.
Thank you.
Okay.
Our next question is from bench Swinburne with Morgan Stanley . Please proceed with your question.
Thanks, Good morning.
A few one on F. One for I guess for Greg or Stefan or both of you on the ESPN deal, which is our Disney deal is now formally announced.
At least part of the press you guys took less money a lot of money, but less money than you could have had I think I know why but could you just spend a couple of minutes talking about why what is new in this ESPN ABC deal.
Besides more money that you think are strategic and sort of the.
Benefits of this agreement and the duration that you picked because obviously the U S market's a huge opportunity for you.
And then maybe this is for Brian , but just you Didnt mentioned currency in the press release at F. One I didn't know if that was a material or not material impact in the quarter and G&A and corporate costs are both up quite a bit year on year and quarter on quarter, maybe Vegas related just any color. There if theres one timers would be helpful. Thanks, everyone. So I'll touch on I'll touch.
On ESPN first and then let Stefano add if it's okay.
Look we.
Have had a belief.
And the strength of the business.
Which caused us to cut initially a shorter deal without getting the highest paid last time and in this renewal. We did the same we wanted the broadest exposure ESPN has been a very good partner, we think the opportunity to continue to grow the sport in United States.
Cause us to cut a relatively short term deal with them because we think we will get do better on the renewals. So far betting on ourselves has been the right strategy betting on growth betting on breath, rather than a current pay has been the right strategy and I think you saw that exhibited there were other things that ESPN has been a great partner and I think the opportune.
To work with them on things like F. One TV were always a part of why they were a good partner.
And go forward on that basis. So we're very excited about F F. One and ESPN being together for the next three years.
I have to tell you. We're also excited about the kind of opportunity we will see in three years, when we renew with somebody.
Definitely what would you add I couldnt agree more Greg.
We need to recognize that.
Because sometimes we have a very short memory.
A couple of years ago, there's not so many media right holders it and use that 1% to invest with us and now we need to give the credit to ESPN that in terms of content in terms of attention in terms of how they are really fully pool, one they did a phenomenal job, which would be even stronger in the next three years, because we have agreed.
The position of the reason that in certain channels as well.
Have more attention to that so I think that the.
We had thought carefully about these tests and I think that the fact also that this agreement will be keep a global mentioned that <unk> seen on our side. It means a lot. So I think that the best solution that named three Years' time, we'll see how the market would develop we are pretty sure due to the growth in U S.
The other players that will be around the table and interested to be with us in the future.
Yes, Ben on your other two questions FX was pretty much de minimis for the quarter.
Remind you that about 80% of our revenue and costs are actually in U S dollars. So we've.
We do have ups and downs on FX from time to time it was not impactful in the third quarter and then on the G&A question again, I would just reiterate always better to look at this on a full year basis, but.
We did have a mix shift in the <unk>.
And the number of races that were either European versus fly away. We we lost Russia in the current period. So that has a bit of a margin impact there was higher G&A to support the overall revenue growth and margin expansion on a year to date basis, and then as you pointed out on Vegas, it's still not material, but obviously there are some costs in there related to Vegas.
They have their prepare for the launch event and tick.
Ticket sales.
Thanks, Brian Thanks, guys.
Our next question comes from Barton Crockett with Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Okay. Thank you I guess two questions if I could the first is just.
The macro situation in Europe .
It's really kind of.
Levels that we haven't seen in years maybe.
In my lifetime, I don't know about others.
And I'm just wondering.
At what point do you think that this could have an impact on the F. One business. It doesn't seem like it has to date.
And maybe the answer is it never will but at what point.
Do you think we could ever get to a point, where this could have an impact on attendance at races, and maybe an impact on race promotion fees because communities are.
Promoters are economically challenged.
Yeah.
Thank you Barton.
Let me figure out. These these things first of all being the World Championship weekend spread around the world the risk of that in this kind of situation to manage on the other hand. The fact that we have long term agreements will reduce the exposure to these risks and what I can say and share with you is that we already see an incredible number.
But our previous inflation with regard to the ticketing of next year. So this is a good sign in a context that youre seeing in mainland Europe .
Thanks.
It is clear that this recession is taking place, but I think thats the way that we structure the way that we have done the deal will protect us.
This will enable us to move forward in this direction. Therefore, I would say at this current situation.
Let us thinking that we should be optimistic and discounted studies of course.
We monitor that.
This is what we see today.
Yes, I think and then if I could.
I get it that we're seeing a case where.
You look across our business and consumers.
Are still purchasing whether that's at formula one or at live nation or at the Atlanta Braves demand for all of those services is very high and I think that is reinforcing the point that it's definitely we have many promoters who are doing very well and including those in the.
In Europe and.
There is high demand both for among consumers and therefore promoter confidence.
Against the long term contracts, we feel very good.
Okay and then the other thing I was curious about is the.
The fact that we've got the race winter if the team winners pretty well shown up well before the season is over at Formula One.
Versus last year things were pretty competitive right until the very end boy flap.
What difference does that make in terms of the financial.
Arc of your business over the balance of this year, I mean, theres not a headwind there in any way.
Anything you can speak to based on historical or any other kind of anecdotes.
Yeah.
Well actually we don't see any kind of risk I told them and first of all we have the last raise was sold out.
And the numbers.
It's really growing the attention will be shift of course is another cycle in the sport.
14.
From the spot perspective, so thats part of operation and I would like to add if I may another covenant that we have totally positive on the input that the change of regulation throughout this year and that we cannot comment on the fact that the team, but specifically in this case redwood or mass for stuff that you did an incredible job maybe set up.
Tim didn't take the right opportunities, but what we saw on the track is well to erase industrial we wanted and then fill.
It'll be confident that next year. The fight on the track will arrive up to the end of the of the calendar and it yet and it just seems the last race.
On the sporting side that there is a lot of attention today is a fight for places that also for the two perspective.
Is it related to their financial position and the financial rewarding if they achieve a brazil, but the other thing so I think that would be a lot of interest.
In Brazil, and Abu Dhabi with no problem.
Okay. Thank you.
Our next question is from David Joyce with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you a couple on Formula one first I was wondering if you could help us understand what's incremental in the new agreement with the with AWS.
And then secondly, I was wondering if you could explain what the gating factors would be to adding another.
One team.
Is it allowed in the current Concorde agreement or would that require renewal and is it a factor of maybe the buy in to keep everybody equal just being too.
Kind of prohibitive, but if you could just walk us through the thought process.
Restrictions there would be helpful. Thanks.
Thank you David for the question.
As you can imagine.
Incremental value.
Ws that we cannot go into the details but.
It is a very strong relationship.
It's starting from a very technical.
Content point of view, we are working together with them on the preparation of the graphics. We are working together in order to give you the right data to our customers and to our fans. So the fact that we have a new for so many years with the interest and the increase in some of our financial contribution it means that the old so.
AWS recognized the power of our of our platform with regard to the.
The value or the process related to the possibility of epsilon team to be either be it can be.
Into the championship of course, there is primarily.
Both us and <unk> to be in agreement with that and I think thats. The first thing that we need to consider is.
This.
Eventual possibility will bring our next value to the championship.
So of course, we got.
Got it internally and we see if there's any kind of a real potential new entry Cancun.
The benefit for the.
For the value of the channel on top of it that is of value that has to be recognized with the team that that already into the championship because of course you know.
They cannot.
Hello, any dilution of their financial.
The partnership with the <unk>. So this is the what is written in the concrete agreement and but mainly that point is it does eventually a new entry will bring a better positional F. One championship. This is really it's about value and in terms of revenue from the financial point of view any similar baidu front the spoken point of view.
And if I may on that.
Another problem to do I think global team to have a better racing. Therefore, we would see within months of the situation. If there will be a real credible new entry.
Keith I want to discuss with US we are ready to discuss but we have not we are not in our best position to date for that.
Great. Thank you very much.
Our final question comes from the line of Matthew Harrigan with benchmark. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you.
The second question, an interesting one, especially in the U S are you seeing a lot more activity on the you want.
Cool.
Around forever I guess since 2000 and is there a potential I guess somewhat lean implementation.
<unk> that are out there right now that now that you've got a movie it feels like a.
Video games and such are another area, where you could probably.
Increased ancillary, but tell us a little bit thank you.
So Matthew I think that.
The fact that we are bringing a new customer that's out of getting younger and younger.
It will allow us to see on the licensing point of view, an incremental opportunity to increase net revenue stream for us and this and this will happen pretty shortly.
So this year an incredible effect.
On this on the other hand, I would say, what we need to deal with focus is that.
We are physical sports on the check so any kind of growth that is happening on the E. Gaming go that has to be translated to the passion that we want to see people pulling through the track and this is really the things that we are focused in because that's an opportunity to stabilize the ROFO as both of the future.
Makes sense. Thank you.
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You all for your interest in the Liberty Media group and we look forward to seeing many new and a couple of weeks in New York.
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