Q3 2022 Geo Group Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you operator, good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us for today's discussion of the Geo group's third quarter 2022 earnings results.
With us today are George solely executive Chairman of the Board Jose Gordo, Chief Executive Officer, Brian Evans, Chief Financial Officer.
James Black President of Geo secure services and Ann Schlarb President of Geo care.
This morning, we will discuss our third quarter results and our outlook.
We will conclude the call with a question and answer session.
This conference call is also being webcast live on our Investor website at investors <unk> Geo group Dotcom.
Today, we will discuss non-GAAP basis information a reconciliation from non-GAAP basis information to GAAP basis results is included in the press release and supplemental disclosure we issued this morning.
Additionally, much of the information we will discuss today, including the answers. We gave in response to your questions May include forward looking statements regarding our beliefs and current expectations with respect to various matters.
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With that please allow me to turn this call over to our executive Chairman George Zoellick, George Thank you Pablo and good morning to everyone. Thank you for joining us on our third quarter.
Earnings call I'm pleased to be joined today by the senior management to review our financial results for the third quarter, including the trends for our business segments, our guidance for the balance of the year. The successful completion of our comprehensive transaction to stagger, our debt maturities and our recent repaint.
Almost all of the remaining debt previously due in.
2023 and 2024.
Our diversified business units continued to deliver strong operating and financial performance. During the third quarter. We are pleased to have achieved one of the highest quarterly revenues in our company's history, which grew 11% from one year ago to approximately 670.
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Along with quarterly GAAP net income of approximately $38 million.
Excluding one time gains and losses during the quarter, we reported adjusted net income of more than $40 million.
And our quarterly adjusted EBITDA reached a new all time high of $136 million growing 17% year over year.
We believe our strong performance is underpinned by the diversified nature of our business units and services, which is the result of thoughtful investment business strategy executed over multiple years with support from our board.
Looking at the balance of the year, we expect full year net income attributable to geo to be in a range of $160 million.
$162 million and we expect full year 2022, adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of 527 million to approximately $534 million, which would mark the first time.
Our full fiscal year, adjusted EBITDA has exceeded $500 million.
We've been able to achieve strong growth through this entire year. Despite continued challenges associated with the COVID-19 pandemic, which have impacted some of our business segments and the federal policy changes that primarily impacted our federal Bureau of prisons contracts.
Looking at current trends for each of our segments are secure services owned and leased segment has historically been comprised primarily of facilities under contract with.
Three federal agencies, the Federal Bureau of prisons, the U S Marshals service and the U S immigration and customs enforcement.
During the third quarter, our active facilities in this segment experienced a year over year increase in compensated occupancy rates of four percentage points to 88% of capacity.
As we have previously disclosed our contract with the Bureau of prisons for the 800 bed North Lake Correctional facility in Michigan expired at the end of September 2022.
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The end of the third quarter, we no longer have any contracts the federal Bureau of prisons for secure correctional facilities.
Turning to the smartphone service occupancy rates across our U S. Marshals detention facilities have continued to be stable.
We believe our U S marshals facilities provide needed detention bed space and services for pre trial federal deep defendants and are generally located near federal courthouses in areas, where suitable alternatives are typically not available.
Turning to our ice facilities occupancy rates increased modestly during the third quarter.
However, detainee populations and issue why continue to remain below historical levels pop.
Population levels at certain ice facilities remain impacted by outstanding Federal Court orders related to the Covid pandemic, which restrict the full operational capacity of these facilities.
In addition, COVID-19 related restrictions under titled 42, which were first enacted in March of.
2020 continued to be in place today at the southwest border.
Our guidance for 2022 continues to assume only modest improvements in utilization rates across our ice facilities.
While ice detainee populations remained below historical levels. The department of Homeland Security's intensive supervision and appearance program or is that is otherwise called ICF has continued to enroll new participants.
Based on the latest publicly available data the number of individuals enrolled in ICF has grown to more than 300000.
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With respect to funding levels in.
In late September the U S Congress passed a continuing resolution funding the federal government through the middle of December of this year.
Under the continuing resolution is funded at levels consistent with the previous fiscal year's budget, which included funding for 34000 detention beds.
Moving to our managed only business, which is primarily comprised of state level correctional facilities occupancy rates in our managed only facilities remained relatively unchanged at 96% of the capacity during the third quarter of 2022.
During the quarter, we successfully renewed two managed only contracts in our secure services segment in Florida, our contract for the 19 148 beds South Bay Correctional and rehabilitation facility was renewed for a two year term.
In Arizona, we have renewed our contracts with a 500 bed Phoenix West Correctional and rehabilitation facility for a five year term.
We remain focused on mitigating the challenges of the Covid pandemic, which among other factors has contributed to a difficult labor market across our state correctional facilities.
But we were pleased that we've been able to work with our government agency partners and state legislative leaders to address staffing and wage inflation challenges.
As a result of these efforts we have obtained additional funding to provide wage increases for our frontline employees across several states.
Turning to our reentry services business, our residential centers were impacted during the Covid pandemic as governmental agencies opted for nonresidential alternatives, including furloughs home confinement and day reporting programs.
While our occupancy rates remain below historical levels. We are encouraged by the recent trends.
During the third quarter, we experienced a sequential increase of five percentage points in occupancy rates across our residential reentry centers and ended the quarter at 54% of capacity.
We are also successfully renewed five residential reentry contracts, including three contracts with the Federal Bureau of prisons.
Additionally, our nonresidential day reporting programs continued to grow during the third quarter with compensated mandates increasing by approximately 27% year over year.
And consistent with our performance throughout the year, our electronic monitoring and supervision segment delivered strong revenue growth in the third quarter.
The robust performance throughout the year by our diversified business and strengthened our ability to successfully address our debt maturities through a series of comprehensive transactions, which we completed during the third quarter.
The transaction staggered the substantial majority of our debt maturities over a longer period of time, which will allow us to continue to allocate excess cash flow towards debt reduction.
After closing on the transactions. We also completed the sale of our equity investment interest in the government owned Raven Hall Correctional Centre in Australia for approximately $84 million in pre tax proceeds.
And we repaid the remaining $147 million of our 2020 for term loans.
And redeemed the remaining $126 million of our 2023 senior notes.
As a result of these important steps, we have now been able to reduce our outstanding debt maturities.
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We believe that we have made substantial progress toward our goal of reducing our net leverage to below three five times adjusted EBITDA by the end of 2023.
And to below three times adjusted EBITDA by the end of 2024.
Going forward, we remain focused on allocating most of our free cash flow towards meeting our goal of further reducing net recourse debt by at least $200 million annually.
Once we achieve our stated debt and leverage reduction goals, we expect to explore options to return capital to our shareholders.
We remain optimistic that all of these efforts have the potential to unlock additional equity value.
Before I turn the call over to Brian I'd like to highlight another important milestone we achieved this month with the publication of our fourth annual human rights and environmental and social governments report.
This important milestone highlights our continued commitment to respecting the human rights and improving the lives of those entrusted to our care.
The report includes enhanced disclosures related to our board oversight of human rights and ESG matters employee diversity and training programs corporate governance and environmental sustainability.
Our fourth quarter annual ESG report also reinforces our commitment to providing enhanced rehabilitation and post release support through our award winning Geo continuum of care program.
In an effort to continue to advance our ESG objectives. Our board committee structure was recently enhanced by adding two new committees.
One dedicated committed to oversee criminal justice rehabilitation and human rights and another dedicated committee to oversee cyber security and environmental sustainability matters.
We also undertook a human rights risk assessment and due diligence process, which included interviews with and feedback from a diverse group of internal and external stakeholders. The result of this due diligence process has been incorporated in our ESG report.
We remain committed to advancing our ESG goals throughout our organization and we look forward to continued engagement with our shareholders and other stakeholders as we pursue additional initiatives in the future at this time I will turn the call over to Brian Evans to address our financial results and <unk>.
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Thank you George good morning, everyone.
For the third quarter of 2022, we reported GAAP net income attributable to geo of approximately $38 million.
During the third quarter, we had a one time loss on the extinguishment of debt as well as nonrecurring expenses related to our recently completed debt transactions.
And we also had a onetime gain on the sale of our equity investment interest in the Raven Hall Center in Australia.
Adjusting for these offsetting items, we reported adjusted net income of.
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Which presents represents one of the highest quarterly revenues in our company's history.
And our adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter 2022 <unk>.
Increased by 17% to approximately $136 million.
Which is an all time high in quarterly adjusted EBITDA for our company.
As a reminder, our third quarter 2022 results.
Also reflect one five months of higher interest expense as a result of our completed debt restructuring.
Our overall strong financial performance continues to be driven by growth in our electronic monitoring and supervision segment, increasing compensated mandates in our non residential reentry business and improvements in occupancy rates in our active owned and leased secure facility.
Our consistent growth throughout the year strengthened our ability to comprehensively address the substantial majority of our debt maturities through a series of transactions, which we successfully closed in August .
The completed transactions staggered our debt maturities over a longer period of time significantly, reducing our near term debt maturities to less than $300 million at closing.
Following the closing of the transactions, we redeemed the remaining $126 million of our outstanding 2023 senior notes using available cash on hand.
Subsequent to that we completed the sale of our equity investment interest in the Raven Hall Centre in Australia for approximately $84 million in gross proceeds pretax.
And we use those proceeds along with available cash on hand to repay the remaining $147 million of our outstanding 2020 for term loans.
As a result of all these steps we have reduced our outstanding debt maturing prior to 2026 from $2 billion to just $23 million and overall, we have reduced our net recourse debt to approximately $2 billion.
Which represents a reduction of approximately $400 million.
Since the beginning of 2020.
We have been focused on reducing our debt for the last three years and we believe that our efforts have placed <unk> in a materially stronger financial position.
Assuming our financial performance remains consistent with our current run rate, we expect to be able to further reduce debt by at least $200 million annually.
At this rate of debt reduction our goal would be to decrease leverage to below three five times adjusted EBITDA by the end of 2023 and to below three times adjusted EBITDA by the end of 2024.
After achieving our stated leverage targets, our hope is to be able to explore options to return capital to our shareholders and unlock additional equity value to complement our debt reduction efforts. We have also been exploring opportunities to sell company owned assets and businesses over the last two years with the sale of our equity investment.
Interest in the Raven Hall Center, we have now completed sales totaling approximately $154 million in proceeds exceeding our previously articulated goal of between $100 million and $150 million in proceeds.
Moving to our guidance for the balance of the year. This morning, we updated our guidance for the fourth quarter and full year 2022.
We expect our fourth quarter 2022, net income attributable to geo to be between 30% and $32 million on quarterly revenues of 600 million to $605 million.
And we have increased our fourth quarter 2022, adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $133 million and $140 million.
Our fourth quarter 2022 guidance reflects the previously announced non renewal of our contract with the.
For 800 bed North Lake facility in Michigan effective September 32022, and higher interest expense as a result of our completed debt transactions we.
We expect full year 2022, net income attributable to geo to be between $160 million and $162 million on annual revenues of approximately $2 $3 6 billion.
Adjusting for unusual or nonrecurring items, we expect full year 2022, adjusted net income to be in a range of $1 30.
Two $1 32 per diluted share and.
And we have increased our full year 2022, adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $527 million.
To approximately $534 million.
We expect our effective tax rate for the year to be approximately 28% exclusive of any discrete items.
At this time I'll turn the call over to James Black for a review of our Geo secure services segment.
Thank you Brian Good morning, everyone. It is my pleasure to provide an update on Geo secure services.
During the third quarter of 2020 to our employees and facilities achieved several important milestones.
Our facility successfully underwent 54 audits, including internal audits government reviews third party accreditations and certifications under the prison rape elimination Act.
Eight of our secure services facilities received accreditation from the American Correctional Association during the third quarter with an average score of 99, 4% and two of those facilities achieved a perfect accreditation score of 100%.
Additionally, four of our secure services facilities received U S Department of Justice certification under the prison rape elimination Act with all of these facilities exceeding standards in several areas.
Our GTI transportation Division safely completed approximately $5 6 million miles driven in the United States and overseas during the third quarter of 2022.
Every quarter, our secure services facilities and divisions achieved several important milestones, which are underpinned by the dedication and professionalism of our employees and their commitment to achieving operational excellence.
With respect to the trends impacting our government agency partners at the federal level, our <unk> contracts for the 800 bed North Lake Correctional facility in Michigan was not renewed at the end of September 2022, consistent with our prior expectations.
We havent enjoyed a decades long partnership with the DLP and our facilities have provided high quality support services at times when the agency needed capacity to address overcrowding across the federal prison system.
However over the last 10 years DLP populations have declined and this trend was accelerated during the Covid pandemic.
With the activation of our North Lake Correctional facility. We now have six idle secure services facilities totaling approximately 10000 beds that were previously under contract with the.
We are focused on marketing these facilities to other government agencies at the federal and state level, and we hope to be able to reactivate lease or sale of these important assets in the future.
Turning to our U S Marshal services contract populations at U S. Marshals detention facilities have remained stable over the last several years.
The U S marshals have custody responsibility for pretrial detainees facing federal criminal proceedings.
As we noted last quarter, our 770 <unk> San Diego facility for the U S. Marshal service recently received a contract extension through September 32023.
We have two other direct contracts with the U S Marshal service in Georgia and Texas.
With current option periods that run through February 2023, and September 2022, <unk>, respectively.
We remain optimistic regarding the continued utilization of these important facilities, which we believe provided needed needed bed space and services near federal courthouses, where there is generally a lack of suitable alternative detention capacity.
With respect to the U S immigration and customs enforcement several ice facilities continue to face operational restrictions, resulting from the quarter orders related to the Covid pandemic.
In addition to these court mandated limits Covid related restrictions first implemented in March of 2022 under title 40 to remain in place at the southwest border.
While we have recently experienced a modest increase in occupancy rates at some of our facilities.
This detainee populations continue to be well below historical levels.
With respect to the current funding levels for the agency. The U S. Congress passed a continuing resolution at the end of September which funds the federal government through the middle of December of this year.
Under the continuing resolution Ice's funded at the same levels provided in the prior fiscal year's budget, which includes funding for 30 34000 detention beds.
We will continue to monitor the congressional appropriations process. After the mid term elections, and we remained focused on providing high quality support services at our facilities and being prepared to respond to a government agency partner needs.
The ice processing centers, where we provide support services offer $24 seven access to quality healthcare access to legal counsel culturally sensitive mills improved by registered dietitians access to faith based and religious opportunities and enhanced amenities, including artificial turf soccer fields covered per <unk>.
Williams exercise equipment, multipurpose rooms, legal and leisure libraries.
Our ice processing centers help fulfill an important mission with special purpose built facilities amenities and services.
Key geographical areas of the country, where suitable alternatives are not often available.
We are therefore pleased with the recent favorable ruling by the <unk> panel of the U S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in relation to the state of California's AB 32 law, which would have prohibited the operation of detention facilities in the state of California by private contractors.
The 8% to three decision by the <unk> panel vacated a prior district court decision that had denied request by Geo and the United States for Declaratory and injunctive relief barring the application of the AB 32 law to federal immigration processing centers.
Beyond bulk panel rule that AB 32 would give California, the virtual power review over detention to soon decisions made by ice in violation of the constitution supremacy clause and that the state of California cannot exert such control over the federal government's detention operations.
This important ruling by the on ninth Circuit Court allows the continuation of our California, similar retention support services contracts for the U S Department of Homeland Security.
Moving to our state Government Agency partners, we recently entered into contract renewals for two managed only state correctional and rehabilitation facilities.
In Florida, our contract for the 948 bit South Bay Correctional and rehabilitation facility.
Renewed for a two year term.
And in Arizona, our contract for the 500 beds Phoenix West Correctional and rehabilitation rehabilitation facility was renewed for a five year term.
Both facilities do deliver a high quality support services on behalf of our government agency partners, including enhanced rehabilitation programs and post release services under our Geo continuum of care.
Across all of our state facilities, we continue to focus on addressing the challenges we are facing as a result of a difficult labor market.
We have worked closely with our state government agency partners and state Legislative and executive branch leaders to address staffing shortages and wage inflation and we have been able to receive additional funding under our contracts to support wage increases for our employees across several states.
We are continuing to monitor opportunities at the state level with several of our state government agency partners are considering initiatives.
Which could involve the use our purchase of contractor owned facilities to address challenges presented by older State prison infrastructure and Correctional officers shortages.
Internationally, we recently completed the sale of our equity investment interest in the Raven Hall Centre in Australia.
This sale does not affect our management of the center, which we will be we will continue to operate under our existing long term contract.
Finally, I'd like to briefly address our ongoing efforts to mitigate the impact of the Covid pandemic.
While we are currently exploring.
Experienced relatively low levels of Covid cases, we remain vigilant and the implementation of our mitigation strategies, which are consistent with the latest guidance issued by the center for disease control and prevention.
This time I will turn the call over to Ann Schlarb for a review of Geo care.
Thank you James and good morning, everyone.
I am pleased to provide an update on our Geo care business unit, starting with our reentry services segment, our residential centers experienced a meaningful sequential increase in occupancy rates of five percentage points.
However, residential reentry populations continued to be well below historical level and across our active facilities, our occupancy stands at 54%.
Our residential reentry centers had been impacted throughout the Covid pandemic as government agencies have prioritized nonresidential alternatives, including furloughs home confinement day reporting and electronic monitoring programs.
Despite these challenges we have continued to successfully renew our existing contracts and we are encouraged by the recent trend in occupancy rates.
During the third quarter, we renewed five residential reentry contracts, including three contracts with the Federal Bureau of prisons.
During the quarter. We also made the decision to consolidate some of our residential reentry populations in New Jersey, which resulted in the discontinuation of our Boll Robinson facility, but increased our occupancy rates at our harbor facility.
We are continually evaluating occupancy trends in order to optimize the utilization of our residential reentry assets.
Additionally, nine of our residential reentry centers recently received accreditation from the American Correctional Association with an average floor of 99, 9% and we are very proud that eight of the nine centers receive perfect accreditation scores of 100%.
Seven of our residential reentry centers received U S Department of Justice certification under the prison rape elimination Act with all of these facilities exceeding standards in several areas.
These important milestones as a result of the daily commitment and dedication of our frontline employees for whom we are very grateful.
Looking at our nonresidential programs and services, we continued to experience strong growth during the third quarter comp.
Compensated mandates for our non residential reentry business decreased by 27% year over year with quarterly revenues now topping $24 million.
Our electronic monitoring and supervision segment also continued to deliver strong revenue growth during the third quarter with our quarterly revenue run rate increasing to approximately $137 million.
Our bi subsidiary provides a full suite of electronic monitoring and supervision solutions products and technologies on behalf of federal state and local agencies across the country.
At the federal level by provides technology solution holistic case management supervision monitoring and compliance services under the intensive supervision and appearance program or <unk> on behalf of ice and the U S Department of Homeland Security.
<unk> has been the incumbent service provider under ice that since 2004, and we are currently delivering these comprehensive services under a five year contract effective through July of 2025.
Over the years the ice that program has grown steadily and since the beginning of 2021 this growth has accelerated.
Based on the latest publicly available data the number of individuals enrolled in <unk> 300000.
Under <unk> tenure, the Isacc program has achieved high levels of compliance.
Participants going through the immigration review process.
For instance between August of 2021 in May of 2022, 99, 6% device that participants attended required meetings with their case specialists and 99, 3% of ice that participants attendant all of their required immigration court hearings.
We believe that the high success rate under the ice that program is underpinned by our partnership with ice and <unk> ability to continually innovate.
Our team at <unk> is constantly working on new and innovative solutions ranging from cutting edge technologies to enhance case management services.
Earlier this year by hosted hundreds of government agency partners and our annual customer technology and training Forum, where we showcased our new state of the art risked warrant monitoring device.
We believe that this new technology has the potential to drive additional growth opportunities for bi and the delivery of monitoring solutions for both immigration related services and the criminal Justice space.
With respect to the recent procurement issued by ice for our case management program with no technology component for approximately 16000 young adult this contract was awarded to a different service provider.
Turning to our Geo continuum of care Division, our employees have continued to deliver enhanced in custody rehabilitation reentry programming and post release support services to an average daily population of approximately 31500 participants.
Our geo continuum of care integrates enhanced in custody rehabilitation, including cognitive behavioral treatment with post release support services that address community needs of released individuals, including housing food clothing transportation and employment assistance.
During the third quarter of 2022 hour post release support services allocated over $240000 to support individuals released from Geo facilities as they return to their communities.
This funding brings the total spending on post release expenses to more than $7 $4 million. Since we began providing support grants for released individuals in 2016 to assist them with their community needs.
We believe that the scope and substance of our award winning Geo continuum of care program is unparalleled and it provides a proven model on how the $2 2 million people in the U S. Criminal Justice system can be better served and changing their lives.
Finally, our geo care facilities and programs continue to focus at implementing Covid mitigation steps that are consistent with the latest guidance issued by the CDC.
And at this time I'll return the call to Jose Gordo for closing remarks, Thank you and our diversified business units have continued to deliver strong financial results and achieved important operational milestones during the third quarter.
This robust performance allowed us to achieve one of our highest quarterly topline revenues and a new <unk>.
A new all time high in quarterly adjusted EBITDA.
Our consistently strong performance throughout this entire year position, our management team to be able to successfully complete a series of comprehensive transactions to address the substantial majority of our debt maturities.
These transactions coupled with our efforts to sell noncore assets have allowed us to reduce our overall net recourse debt to approximately $2 billion.
And have staggered our remaining debt maturities further out into the future importantly.
Importantly, we have significantly reduced our near term maturities from approximately $2 billion to just $23 million in remaining outstanding debt due between now and 2026.
As a result of these efforts we believe <unk> is now in a materially stronger financial position.
While we continue to focus on reducing our net recourse debt and our net leverage over the next two years. Our hope is to be able to explore options to return capital to shareholders at the earliest possible time.
We hope that all of these efforts will unlock additional equity value for our shareholders. We are pleased with the continued growth across our business segments. However, we also recognize the staffing shortages and wage inflation are posing a difficult challenge for companies across diverse industries.
And we have proactively addressed these challenges working closely with our government agency partners to secure additional funding to support wage increases for our employees across several states.
We are grateful for the continued dedication and commitment of our frontline employees, who make daily sacrifices to deliver high quality services on behalf of our government agency partners and provide safe and compassionate care to all of those entrusted to our facilities and programs.
Our cash flows are supported by a valuable company owned real estate assets and diversified business units and tailing essential government services, ranging from secure residential care to community based and technology solutions.
We believe that our continued strong financial and operational performance, which is underpinned by these diversified business units such geo apart in our industry.
That completes our remarks, and we will be glad to take questions.
We will now begin the question and answer session.
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The first question today comes from channel now.
Noble capital. Please go ahead.
Thank you.
Good morning, congrats on the quarter.
Thank you.
Wanted to start off with <unk> today, again really strong numbers really positive growth there.
Also saw that they recently renewed an agreement with Omnia partners.
Just trying to get a little more color or detail as to what that could possibly mean for maybe even additional growth.
At the <unk> business.
Thank you for your question. This is and we've had our contract with Omnia partners for several years now. So as you stated this was a renewal and that allows.
Individuals' in the criminal justice market, our customers to use that contracting platform to provide services.
By technology services through that platform. So we can continue to grow through that platform with the pricing that set through the contract that we negotiated.
Okay.
Switching gears to <unk>.
Ice.
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You talked a little bit about it.
If I look at the ice daily populations.
They have grown to about 26000 by the end of September from roughly 20000 earlier in the year.
Just wondering.
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How much of that increase are you guys seeing.
Where do we stand.
Reaching or exceeding hopefully some of the contract minimums.
Any thoughts you may have on.
Titled 42, and when we think that might finally be.
Rescinded.
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We don't have any unique insight as to when title 42 may be rescinded.
But we've seen.
Fairly steady growth in our <unk>.
ISR kopinski during the fourth quarter.
So far.
It was more modest in the third quarter, but during the fourth quarter, we have seen.
A more significant increase in occupancies, particularly in those facilities in the southern border States.
And any comment on when you might be exceeding some of your contract minimums.
Not at this time.
Okay.
Okay.
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Is there.
Any impact on the.
On the financial statement here from the sale of the Raven Hall equity interests that we need to be aware of.
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I think in the.
Earnings release, it's in the gain on sale is reported in the income statement and then going forward there.
And impact to the.
I think it's the net income and the revenue line or a modest amount of the annual impact is probably between 7% to $8 million a year in pretax earnings.
Okay.
Okay. Thank you for that color.
And.
On the idle beds.
It'll facilities, we've talked a lot here.
Partly because we've had some of the non renewals on the on the <unk>.
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Your idle beds are now exceeding 13000.
Just trying to get a little more color as to the market emails when we might be able to see some of those facilities.
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Back on back online and contributing again in terms of the top line I know, it's difficult to project, but just trying to get a little better feel for how negotiations are going or how.
Other parties.
How interested at other parties are actually in some of these facilities.
Or given.
We are less.
Less than two weeks from election.
Fourth quarter of an election year easily results in.
Federal and state organizations.
Deferring.
Any new contract projects.
So I wouldn't expect any.
New decisions until early next year, possibly the first quarter.
Okay, and one more if I may and I'll pass it on.
Obviously, a big win in the legal.
On the legal side in California.
Right.
Just wondering are there anything is there anything else out there on the legal front that is significant that.
We're dealing with today.
Well I think it's publicly known that we are.
In litigation regarding the volunteer work program and ice facilities and.
Several states.
And there is a challenge too.
The compensation, which is established.
Congress and the contract which is to establish it as $1 per day and some states are challenging that some plaintiffs are challenging that and asking for the state minimum wage.
So we are in litigation.
On that matter.
Okay.
Okay great.
Again, congrats on the quarter you guys continue to knock the cover off the ball here operationally.
Very impressive and I will get back in queue. Thank you.
Thank you.
The next question comes from Mitra <unk> with Sidoti. Please go ahead.
Yes, hi, good morning, Thanks for taking the questions.
Just wanted to touch on the margins really nice margin improvement this quarter and obviously helped by the improved top line, but I was just wondering more on the cost side, especially given the tightly.
Tight labor market environment that a lot of companies are having difficulty with.
Any specific thing as you were able to do on the operating side to also help in terms of the margin improvement.
Well.
Dividing our business between federal and the state at the federal level, we really haven't had problems with recruitment because the the compensation in federal facilities is usually at a higher level and we.
We don't.
And its adjusted <unk>.
Periodically by the department of Labor, So we're almost.
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Okay.
Pretty insulated pretty insulated from recessions.
Or problems with labor.
Compensation, but at the state level, because our state clients are in the same situation as we are regarding.
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Shortly high vacancy rates they have gone to the legislature's to ask for additional funding.
Along with their request so we've made similar requests and they have been.
<unk> approved so we've both been able to simultaneously.
Staggered step by step basis increase the compensation.
At our state facilities progressively and we although.
Although it may be a continuous process because of the labor market is still fairly tight but we've.
<unk> been very much encouraged and.
Because of this success that's occurred by our state clients on their behalf as well as ours to increase the wages at state Correctional facilities.
Thanks, and I take it the ability to be able to increase the wages youre not seeing any noticeable change in turnover.
Well the turnover reduces.
As you increase the wages there is greater stability in the Labor force.
Great. Thanks.
And.
Regarding the ice facilities you have.
Mentioned, the Covid restrictions still having an impact.
In terms of occupancy there.
Just curious if you're hearing anything on that front as to when these restrictions might ultimately get lifted.
There hasnt been any change in the Covid restrictions for several months now.
We don't expect there to be a change for the balance of the year. So we'll see what happens next year.
Okay. Thanks, and then just coming back on <unk>.
Business in the EMEA.
Renewal just curious if I am I believe it.
Given the increased technology.
Capabilities, you have as related things like GPS tracking smartphone applications et cetera.
Do you think that has a chance of maybe even accelerating the growth.
Youre seeing now in terms of more parties willing to come onboard and adopt this technology.
I think it allows another vehicle for them to use the technology.
The agencies can put things out to bid or they could go straight to using this procurement vehicle. So it gives them another avenue to access the technology that theyre looking for but I do think that as we expand our suite of products and services to the customer it allows them to have more diversity and how theyre looking at managing their population.
Okay. Thanks.
And as we look out to 2023 clearly this has really been.
Nice very strong year.
And so all of the metrics you have highlighted in terms of the adjusted EBITDA of no revenue run rates et cetera to we're seeing it seems like.
Label put that on top of it.
Significant progress you've made.
Restructuring the debt.
Extended maturities et cetera, as you look out to 2023.
Do you see as sort of like maybe the biggest hedge.
<unk> for you.
Because it just seems like everything is starting to come together here.
Obviously, the political environment is still pretty much not known but.
In terms of what you can control.
I really don't see any big headwinds I see big opportunities for next year actually.
Continued improvement in our state wages I see continued improvement in our.
Occupancy levels in our federal facilities.
See opportunities for.
Reengagement of our idle facilities by either state or federal organizations.
Okay. That's great. Thanks, again for taking the questions.
The next question comes from Jay Mccanless with Wedbush. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, Thanks for taking my questions.
Just a couple of questions around electronic monitoring in the growth you've seen there most of that driven by the federal level or.
Collection of states any any kind of insight into that rapid growth would be appreciated.
Most of it is attributed to the federal level.
Okay and do you expect going forward that we will see the same kind of increase or is it going to youre going to have to sign another set of contracts to see this kind of step function higher in the revenues.
Yes so.
Well that the contract it has had the recent.
Accelerated growth I mean, there is no caps on those contracts.
Really any of the ice contracts theres, no guaranteed minimums or maximums, so the contracts can expand or.
Go down as the customer sees fit.
Fortunately and historically most of these contracts have been utilized it at a high level and the customers have continued to expand them and most recently the federal customer has expanded it significantly I think as Dan said also in her comments, there's some new technology that we're developing and rolling out they introduced a rich.
<unk> worn device out there.
<unk> Technology Forum in.
We believe that will create additional opportunities for the company going forward, but our forecast assumes steady steady level current run rate right now and we.
Haven't significant increase would be additive to our forecast and we will update for that in our next conference call for the 2023 earnings.
Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.
The next question comes from Kirk Ludtke with Imperial capital. Please go ahead.
Hello, everyone.
Congratulations on the exchange in the quarter.
Just a couple of follow ups.
With respect to the federal budget you mentioned.
<unk> funded at 34000 beds through mid December .
Trying to get a better sense for the risks surrounding this funding.
I'm, just curious as funding ever been a constraint for ice to occupancy in the past.
Well.
In the past they've often exceeded their authorized funding.
Sure.
For that line item and had had to borrow funds from other line items within the department of Homeland Security I believe.
But.
They are present funding through December which is.
The same as the funding for the prior year, which is at 34000 beds.
And I believe the occupancy levels of debt.
Our available publicly reveal that the current.
Level of ice detention is approximately 30.
Got it. Thank you that's helpful.
Yes.
Hi.
So this is Dave.
They've even when they've exceeded there.
Occupancy levels for funding they've been able to.
Obtain additional funding to carry those to carry them through the year.
Yes.
Got it.
Okay.
Sure.
That makes sense and and with respect to the ice population versus the.
Ice population do you do you think there is there any reason to think that these are inversely correlated.
No I think they are.
Totally separate.
Totally separate.
The <unk> program is a program in lieu of detention obviously that's.
The nature of the program, but the.
We've seen growth in this fourth quarter, it's partial fourth quarter of steady growth in both areas actually.
Got it. This is this is maybe the first time, where we've seen both.
For this year, yes, Okay got it thank you.
And with respect to staffing.
Is there anything you can say about <unk>.
How staffing would change if.
The ice population went back to pre COVID-19 levels.
It would not change much because we have these minimum guarantees that essentially.
Require the majority if not the entire staffing for the facility.
Got it.
And then just a couple.
Minor ones the availability that you show on the two revolving credits in the supplement.
That reflects the maintenance the financial covenants in those agreements right.
Yes, yes, that's fully available.
Got it.
And and then lastly, thinking out to 2023, a bit can you help us think through a government shutdown and what that means.
The debt ceiling has not raised in time.
Well, we've had government shutdowns in the past.
It has not affected us because we are considered an essential government service.
So our facilities remain open our services remain ongoing and we are.
Eventually receive payment when the government is reestablished.
Budget standpoint.
Right yes.
<unk>.
It's the last part that I am focused on you.
Payments are delayed.
<unk>.
Payments from the federal government, we delayed.
They can be.
That's what that's the main issue that we've experienced in the past there'll be some delay it depends on how long the government shuts down I mean, if it's a relatively short it really has no impact if at.
Our longer than Youre going to have some delays in payments, but they usually catch back up pretty quick too as George said Wednesday, because our payments are easily one month in arrears. So.
The shutdown would have to be more than a month, which has never occurred.
Yes, that's never happened Okay got it that's all I need. Thank you I appreciate it.
This concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to George Lowly Executive Chairman <unk> CEO for any closing remarks.
Thank you very much for joining us on this conference call and we look to.
Addressing you in our next one thank you.
Okay.
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