Q3 2022 LiveVox Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Good afternoon, and thank you for your participation today with me on the call are Louisa <unk> co founder and former Chief Executive Officer of Lightbox, Greg Clevenger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and John Dilullo appointed CEO of Lightbox effective November one.
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Financial measures as defined by SEC regulation G. A reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure can be found in the earnings press release, which is available on the Investor Relations website investors Dot <unk> Dot com a recorded replay of this call together with related materials will be available on our <unk>.
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Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us.
My name is Louis Xiaomi.
As you may have seen in our prior November 1st earnings Press release. This will be my last quarterly earnings call as <unk> CEO as I transition into the Vice chairman role on our board.
I will continue to be focused on the technology and product aspects of our business as I have been since I founded lightbox over 20 years ago as well as assisting in the transition and advising our new CEO John below.
This is an exciting time for the company and I am pleased to introduce John later in the call to share his thoughts before handing the call over to our CFO Gregg Clevinger.
Now I'd like to share with you our Q3 results and progress overall, while the macro environment has lengthened new logo sales cycles <unk> does have a number of secular tailwind driving balanced growth.
Including increasing usage from credit cycle monetization.
Increasing digital revenue.
Increasing our revenue.
And margin growth, resulting from our public cloud infrastructure and Youll see this reflected in our financial results.
Total Q3 revenue came in at a record $35 3 million.
Up nearly 16% year over year and within our guidance range.
I shared on our last call that we were beginning to see the expected second half increase in usage as the credit cycle begins to normalize.
Although at a slower rate than originally anticipated.
Data from the New York Bad Air Moody's analytics are showing a more steady gradual increase in first party delinquencies that will ultimately flow through to third party defaults and ultimately benefit us.
I am excited to share that our non-GAAP gross margin was 66, 3%.
And our adjusted EBITDA came in at negative $1 5 million Boe.
Both significantly ahead of guidance.
As noted previously much of this can be attributed to moving 100% of our customers to the public cloud.
Further we believe our gross margin will continue to increase in the quarters ahead, as we use auto scaling to lower compute costs and automate infrastructure operations to reduce indirect cost of sales.
Another significant advantage to our public cloud infrastructure that I think it is important to point out is that it brings our capex spend to de minimis levels.
In contrast, others in our space have capex spend as much as 10% of revenue.
This is ultimately a key competitive advantage for us on both cost and performance.
I'm also pleased to share that our digital revenue continues to expand digi.
Digital revenue was up over 54% year over year and messaging revenue is up over 58% year over year.
Additionally.
Our AI virtual agent bookings were more than double quarter over quarter.
Non voice revenue continues to trend at approximately 25% of our revenue.
Also of note our pipeline has increased more than 34% year over year buoyed by enterprise deals and customers looking to expedite their digital transformation through increased digital channels.
Automated agent workflows and AI virtual agents.
While this increase is encouraging.
And we continue to see more opportunities. It is important to note that the economy appears to have lengthened the sales cycles for new logos consists.
Consistent with what we have heard from industry analysts.
During our last call I shared that we optimize our organization and pivoted to a balanced growth strategy.
As has been demonstrated in the numbers we're sharing today.
As part of that strategy I also shared that we're focusing our go to market efforts on continued development in the channel and our partner ecosystem.
As well as the tremendous opportunity for growth within our existing customer base.
I am pleased to share that this strategy has had a positive impact on our business.
First while our pipeline has grown 34% year over year channel opportunities now represent a much larger share of that number.
We continue to see the channel is an important part of our new logo growth and expansion.
Second I mentioned last quarter that we see an approximate $2 billion in upsell opportunity with our existing customer base and that number continues to grow as we add new customers and rollout new AI and digital products.
In Q3, we closed several large existing customer upsells.
Some that I'll share more about in a moment.
As noted last quarter, we're excited about our continued growth in new logo opportunities.
But we're laser focused on closing existing customer upsell opportunities as it is a faster more cost effective sale and tends to convert to revenue more quickly.
Which has helped to expedite our path to profitability.
I would now like to share a few new logo wins and notable existing customer upsells.
The first new logo as a subprime auto lender that was on a legacy platform that will soon be unsupported.
It was imperative to them to be with one vendor and to be able to deploy that 100 agents rapidly.
They purchased 13 products, including our compliance tools <unk> tools and our Salesforce connector.
Next is a new large GPO customer with 10000 agents globally that deploy live ox for 180 of their agents focused on sales and customer retention.
Migrated from a legacy on premise system.
Our competitor for the opportunity could not equal our offerings, especially because a customer needed to be up and running in five weeks.
We are excited by the potential to expand into the remaining 10000 agents with this customer in the quarters ahead.
One of our largest upsells for the quarter is in the travel and tourism sector.
We are currently with an on prem provider, but find our products so compelling.
They've moved to us prior to the expiration of their existing contract.
They have multiple care groups. They started with one group with approximately 140 agents and I've just added a fourth group, bringing the total number of agents to over 500.
Theyre running nine products on the platform and have plans to continue to add levox capabilities as they rollout to more groups next year.
And finally, one of our largest customers added for more products for a total of 19 <unk> products purchased.
Of note. They are in the early stages of deploying our AI virtual agents to their platform.
Key to them was the differentiation advantages of our virtual agent approach more specifically our ability to monitor virtual agents. The same as Q&A this providing a much quicker path to optimization.
And our ability to seamlessly transition from the virtual agents to a human agent without losing the customer info already provided in the call a huge customer experience advantage.
Now I'll provide a brief update on our technology and platform as.
As mentioned during the past couple of earnings calls moving 100% of our customers to the public cloud continues to have a positive impact on gross margin that we expected.
Not only is it a significant contributor to our expedited path to profitability. It is a significant investment that most of our peers have yet to undertake.
This is in addition to the benefits of faster development and deployment cycles, and even more importantly, the increased reliability and uptime of our platform.
One of the benefits from our latest platform release that we're very excited about is how it is helping our customers substantially improve and automate their agent workflows.
This refers to the ability for a contact center agent to quickly and easily navigate their applications and systems to efficiently address customer needs.
Essentially <unk> is agent desktop orchestration capabilities eliminate the complexity and burden of pulling together multiple systems and data streams through an easy to create easy to modify workflow solution that helps contact center leaders more effectively optimize our operations, while enhancing both the agent and the cut.
<unk> experience.
This is appealing to both mid market and enterprise customers and it is helping drive additional product sales for us to existing customers and proving to be an excellent strategic lever during prospect conversations.
In summary, I believe we continued to make strong progress in Q3 through the combination of migrating to the public cloud and pivoting to a balanced growth strategy, we've significantly improved both gross margin and EBITDA, while posting a record revenue quarter for both new logo and existing customer upsells.
And as I mentioned earlier, while the macro environment has lengthened new logo sales cycles, while box does have a number of secular tailwind driving balanced growth, including increasing usage from credit card normalization, increasing digital revenue increasing AI revenue.
And margin growth, resulting from our public cloud infrastructure.
Further there's an estimated $250 billion of labor spend in the contact center market that <unk> providers like us are driving to automation through AI <unk> is very well positioned to capitalize on this opportunity.
I'm exceptionally proud of what we've built and continue to believe in our ability to succeed and drive shareholder value I want to thank everyone at <unk> for their hard work and dedication our board and of course, our customers I look forward to my new role as Vice Chairman of our board and helping the company for years to come.
Now before I hand, the call over to Greg to go over our financial results in more detail I would like to introduce John Dilullo, our new CEO at La box, John is a compelling mix of relevant technology and commercial industry experience and is well equipped to carry <unk> into the next phase of growth John .
Thanks Louie.
Sincerely appreciate.
All of your support and collaboration through this transition and I am very pleased that will continue to benefit from your many insights and experience as a board member and your expertise in helping us to drive our product evolution.
I'd also like to thank everyone that is joining this call and for all the kind words from investors customers partners and employees that I've received since last week's announcement.
I am thrilled to join live ox at such a pivotal time and to help guide the company through its next exciting chapter.
<unk> is in a vibrant space, we have leading edge cloud based technologies.
<unk> customers and plentiful opportunities.
In my short time with the company I've become more and more confident that he'll be able to help <unk> reach its full potential in the next stage of its growth and financial performance.
My 10 Years' experience in unified Communications and contact centers has made me acutely aware of the challenges many of our customers face in deploying omnichannel customer solutions at scale and hybrid and distributed agent environments.
I am certain that my insights here will help <unk> to coalesce, our development efforts in the areas of greatest customer need and segment viability.
<unk> elegant deployment of artificial intelligence and machine learning solutions is very reminiscent of the AI based innovations and successes my prior company enjoyed before its acquisition by Vmware in 2020.
Similarly, the 100% public cloud architecture at Lightbox is a huge competitive advantage and has in numerable practical benefits for customers surfacing and educating customers about these advantages is also familiar terrain.
For me and echoes the opportunities and go to market successes that I enjoyed while operating.
<unk> person go to market organizations in two prior companies.
Perhaps most importantly, I feel that my time spent both in fast growth venture companies as well as more disciplined profit seeking private equity enterprises has given me a unique appreciation for how to manage thoughtfully within a balanced growth framework.
Such is the model we have embraced at live box.
Out of the gate there are three key areas that I believe provide <unk> the opportunity to grow sales, while embracing our guiding principle of balanced growth and EBITDA expansion.
The first area is further leveraging our existing AI products that help our customers automate and expand their customer service capabilities.
As Louis mentioned the agent automation opportunity is enormous and it's one we are uniquely positioned to capitalize upon.
Second.
Given my background living and working overseas I'll be very focused when the time is right on working with the team to grow our international footprint.
And capabilities by leveraging our scalable high availability public cloud infrastructure.
Finally, I plan to place immediate emphasis on building our partner and alliance relationships.
Creating a more extensive ecosystem as I have done successfully in several previous roles.
Leveraging channels and alliances is fundamental to serving our customers effectively and.
To our continued success.
As I've learned more about <unk> technology and team over the past few weeks I've become even more excited about this opportunity I look forward to sharing with all of you in the coming days my thoughts and plans for our continued growth and success.
Now I'd like to turn over the call to live auctions, Chief Financial Officer, Greg Clevenger, Greg.
Thanks, John and good afternoon, everyone I will start off by reminding you that all non-GAAP financial figures that I discussed on the call today are reconciled in a presentation posted on the Investor Relations section on our website.
In our press release issued just prior to this call and in our 10-Q.
Our total revenue for the third quarter was $35 3 million, 16% higher than the third quarter of last year, and 7% higher than last quarter and within our guided range of 35% to $36 million.
Our contract revenue was strong for the third quarter at $28 million, which is 21% higher than the third quarter of last year, 5% higher than last quarter and at the high end of our guided range of 27, 5% to $28 million.
Our excess usage revenue in the third quarter, However was softer than we expected at $7 $3 million down 3% year over year up 17% from last quarter, but below the low end of our guided range of seven 5% to $8 million driven both by a slower recovery curve and core usage versus our expectations.
As well as lower professional services revenue than we had previously forecasted for the quarter the.
The $7 $3 million of excess usage revenue included an unexpected one time $500000 payment for the early termination of a contract with a customer that had been acquired without which the excess usage revenue would have been $6 $8 million in the quarter.
Core voice and data usage continues to steadily strengthen in our collections and credit account servicing customers in line with the positive broader credit market indicators of growing credit card balances and higher credit card delinquency rates and we expect this trend to continue as the current economic environment evolves and as overall use.
<unk> continues to strengthen we are seeing more interest from some customers to increase their contractual commitments with us which has the effect of increasing contract revenue at the expense of excess usage revenue.
This had some marginal impact on our third quarter results the relative strength in contract revenue and weakness in excess usage revenue and we are expecting this trend to continue as collections and credit account servicing activity increases and this has been considered in our fourth quarter guidance, as well, which I'll get to in a minute.
Because of this trend that we have begun to see in the expectation that it will continue as usage volumes on the platform continued to increase we believe that is becoming less informative to focus on the contract and excess usage revenue components of our revenue with total revenue being the more relevant metric to focus on.
Our net revenue retention strengthened in the third quarter, improving to 109% versus 107% in the third quarter of last year and 108% last quarter.
Our adjusted gross margin for the third quarter improved to 66, 3% an increase of 210 basis points versus last quarter and our guidance for this quarter as we continue to drive cost efficiencies now that we're 100% on the public cloud.
Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a negative $1 5 million, a $4 $1 million improvement from last quarter and better than our guided range of negative $3 six to negative $2 $6 million driven by $2 $2 million of sequential improvement in adjusted gross margin and $1 $9 million of sequential improvement in.
Operating expenses as we continue to actively manage our cost structure towards profitability and optimize for balanced growth.
Our GAAP earnings per share for the quarter were negative eight per share on both a basic and diluted basis versus a negative <unk> 12 per share in the third quarter of last year.
Our capex for the third quarter totaled $108000 for total year to date capex of $880000, reflecting the highly capital efficient nature of our 100% public cloud product platform and helping us to manage our cash burn for the quarter to $7 million, resulting in a quarter ending balance in cash and cash equivalents and marketable securities.
<unk> of $70 million versus $77 million at the end of last quarter.
And lastly, we ended the third quarter with $55 million of debt essentially flat versus last quarter.
With that let's talk about our forward looking guidance.
You all no doubt saw that we partially reiterated and revised our full year guidance in the press release last week, so I want to spend today, giving a little more color in providing specific guidance for the fourth quarter.
First I'll start with revenue.
We expect total revenue to be 33, 7% to $35 2 million for the fourth quarter, 6% to 10% higher than the fourth quarter of last year, which as you will recall only had one month of the lower usage, resulting from the seven by seven regulatory change that took effect on December one of last year.
And so that would total 134 to $135 $5 million for the full year 2022, 12% to 14% higher than the full year 2021.
In terms of the components of total revenue, we expect fourth quarter contract revenue to be between 28, and $29 million, 15% to 19% growth over the fourth quarter of 2021 and totaling between $108 $109 million for the full year, 19% to 20% higher than the full year 2021.
We expect excess usage revenue to be between $5 7 million and $6 2 million in the fourth quarter down 18% to 24% versus the fourth quarter of last year again impacted by the tough seven by seven comparison to last year.
And slightly lower than last quarter when adjusted for the $500000 early contract termination payment I mentioned earlier, which is largely reflective of the normal seasonal pattern of usage on our platform.
While we believe we will continue to see improvement in core voice and data usage from our collections and credit account servicing customers just as we experienced in the third quarter. We don't expect it to be at the levels. We had previously assumed for the quarter, nor do we expect our professional services revenue to be at the level that we had previously forecasted as I mentioned earlier.
For the full year 2022 excess usage revenue is expected to total 26% to $26 $5 million, which would be 8% to 10% lower than the full year 2021.
We expect our adjusted gross margin in the fourth quarter to improve to 67% as we continue to optimize our AWS and telco costs and scale in the public cloud infrastructure.
And we still expect our adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter to be positive as we indicated last quarter, excluding the impact of the additional expenses, we will incur related to the CEO transition, which wasn't anticipated when we gave that guidance last quarter.
The total incremental expense of the CEO transition in the fourth quarter is expected to be approximately $600000 and including those expenses, we may not quite achieve positive adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter. Nonetheless, we expect that even including those additional expenses are adjusted EBITDA will still fall between negative 17 and <unk>.
$15 million for the full year as we have previously guided and as we reiterated in the press release last week.
With that operator, please open the line for Q&A.
Thank you we will now begin the question and answer question to ask a question you May Press Star then one on your telephone keypad.
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Okay.
And the first question comes from Parker Lane with Stifel.
Yes, hi, Thanks for taking my question pretty nice inflection in the digital revenue component of the business and in particular virtual agents wondering if you could talk about some of the drivers of the adoption, there and whether or not we should think about that as an augmentation of.
The actual humans sitting in the contact center or if companies are looking at an opportunity to sort of rationalize head count and virtual agents agents are a great Avenue for that thank you.
Yes, Hey, Parker How're, you doing slowly I think it's a combination of both and people are.
Feeling pressure when it comes to recruiting they're feeling pressure when it comes to retention in the contact center market.
We are eager to find forms of automation that can enable them to do more with fewer people while still deliver.
Delivering a high level of customer experience and customer satisfaction.
Both both digital and AI are.
Helpful tools for them to for them to get there and that's what the that's what their investment.
Got it and then on the go to market head Count I know last quarter, you talked about a greater emphasis on expansion in the net new given the elongation of sales cycles out there when I look at that downtick now for a few quarters, how should we think about the go to market capacity going forward do you feel like Thats, an area, where youll continue to see more rationalization from a.
Cost perspective are you at a point where capacity is in a good spot.
Yes.
We feel this is Greg Parker Hey.
We feel like we're in a good spot in terms of capacity as we as we talked about before we did reduce some head count it didn't really impact our productivity our ability to two.
To achieve our bookings plans and.
And so I think we're pretty well set for for where we want to be.
Understood I appreciate it thanks for taking the questions.
Sure.
Okay.
The next question will come from Jim Fish with Piper Sandler.
Hey, guys. This is quentin on for Jim fish. Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly I wanted to say great working with you. Good luck on your next venture gear and John really looking forward to getting to work with you.
First from a competitive standpoint are you guys seeing accelerated win rates, especially given the end of life announcements from some of the competitors, especially with that on premise offering really any sort of competitive color would be helpful. Here.
Yes, Glenn Thanks.
We are definitely seen a.
A shift in the pipeline towards on Prem.
Platforms, where where people are looking to move to the cloud and certainly people announcing end of life on on Prem platforms is as an impetus for those conversations so.
That's absolutely.
The driver there.
Okay.
Got it thanks, and then usage revenue is something that has been pretty hard to pin down in the past and it seems like it's only getting harder here given those moving pieces between contract and usage revenue, but what gives the confidence that we have the right level of conservatism baked into the targets, we've set maybe compared to prior estimate.
Both from kind of a total revenue standpoint, as well as the mix between usage and contract.
Yes.
Just as we as we continue to see strength in overall volume it makes it easier for us to forecast the total revenue as opposed to the pieces of the revenue and that's kind of why we are signaling we want to.
Kind of flip this on its head a little bit to focus more on the total revenue piece because it is it is more difficult to kind of handicap, how that revenue is going to fall.
In.
Hard enough in a quarter, but.
Kind of projecting out longer term as to as to how customers are going to react.
To their increasing volumes and how they want to.
Balanced between what's under contract and what they want to take on the risk side in terms of excess usage. So.
So I think we're well.
We have a good eye on on the total revenue and Thats kind of where we want to focus I feel good about what we've guided to for the quarter.
Got it thanks for taking my questions.
Sure. Thank you.
The next question comes from Mike Latimore with Northland capital.
Hi, Andrew <unk> on for Mike.
I have a couple of questions with my first one is how many salespeople do.
No.
We don't actually disclose the number of salespeople.
It's a definitional issue, but we have 179 people in our go to market organization broadly which includes.
Sales and marketing and all of the people involved in the overall process of acquiring customers.
Okay.
Our sales cycles elongated and if so by how much.
I'm, sorry could you repeat that.
Our sales cycles elongated and if so by how much.
Yes, that's a hard thing to measure.
But but it could be.
Yes.
It could be as long as doubling from from what we've experienced in the past past year or two.
Okay.
I think new logos are up since.
More impacting new logos, then up sells upsells are more predictable and do continue to have shorter sales cycles than new logos do.
Great.
Questions.
Yes.
I have one last question for the new CEO .
Other key changes you intend to make and if so what is your timeline for green Dot.
Thanks Rebecca.
Hi.
I've really been pretty impressed with the direction of the company and what people are are working on especially in the area of product in the way that we are supporting our customers.
I think we will start to look at some ways to get better leverage out of the out of the sales organization, though and a couple of areas. There I talked about already but one is.
Expanding the fleet.
Customers that we are able to reach and service with our channels again. This is a high leverage low cost thing that I believe we can do and then also just amplifying.
For all of these customers that currently have these on premises environments.
The benefits of moving to the cloud and how elegantly they can do that with us. So I think those are the two areas and they're both relatively high leverage but otherwise.
Very much aligned with the direction of the company.
Go ahead, Keith Keith moving in those directions.
Alright, Thanks, that's it from my side.
Thank you.
Okay.
Next question comes from Brett Levy with credit Suisse.
Hi, This is Tim on for John .
John Congratulations on the new role and we look forward to working with you and it's been a pleasure. So far and then looking forward to working with you in a slightly different topic as well.
Thank you in terms.
In terms of our questions.
First off it sounds like there has been a slight shift in how customers consume your platform, perhaps increasing their contractual commitment to the expense of the potential access usage could.
Could you maybe unpack for us more to what the trends are that are driving that pattern and as you think about the long term trajectory of the business and long term usage patterns are there any conclusions you're able to start to draw as to what that usage multiplier might look like over a longer peer.
A time, given the new usage trends.
Yes.
I'll add a little bit of color and then I'll, let Greg jump in but one of the things that.
It is happening as you know.
As we sell more.
Digital products.
And more AI products to our customer base.
Though the way that they are consuming.
A platform is is is changing a little.
Yes.
And in certain areas of our customers, particularly around the <unk>.
Credit origination and collection side the.
The volumes are definitely picking up.
As we have as we've signaled and as we see in the statistics for Moody's and whatnot and what you can see anecdotally and what's going on in the world. So as that happens the tendency is for them as they see that they are using the platform more they have the opportunity they have more.
Buying power in the market right. So they have the ability to.
To flex some leverage on their vendors and so they'll come to us and they will want to.
To get lower pricing for their volume and in return for that.
We're going to want for them to commit to more than to extend contracts and so that's kind of the dance that tends to happen.
When when customers start to use the platform a lot more than what they are currently contracted for and in this environment as we're seeing.
In that particular segment of the market as we're seeing that.
Evolution happening, we're seeing more and more that those customers want to have those conversations with us. So that's why it makes it less.
It's just tougher to predict how that is going to continue to play out going forward, which is why we want to deemphasize the bifurcation of the revenue.
Thank you and as a follow up.
Last quarter you have.
Third talking about re prioritization of growth from existing customers.
To some degree is a trade off to new customer growth based on the commentary that John provided as part of the call as well as the press release it sounds like you now see.
Opportunity in new customer growth or growth from new customers, which might not have been as apparent last quarter. So just curious about the internal discussions you've had and what the shift that youre seeing in the market is.
That made you.
<unk> city prioritize new customer growth as well.
Well it is.
Tim right I said I made the comments so I'll just say what.
There is opportunities for new customers as people leave their heritage on premises environment.
And we have a product cycle right now.
It is very favorable for our installed base of customers, which is.
Which is a main focus of the teams right now is getting our our customers to embrace.
The next generation R. R.
AI capabilities in their system that makes them much much stickier and happier and more productive so.
<unk> always theres, two and right now we happen to be in a product cycle that makes.
Selling into the installed base very favorable for us, but we're always looking for new customers as well.
Thank you.
This concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to Luis <unk> for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.
I just want to say, thank you to our employees to our customers to our board for for a great quarter and thank.
Thank you all for joining us today.
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation you may now disconnect.
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