Q4 2022 Aramark Earnings Call
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Good morning, and welcome to Aramark, 's fourth quarter and full year fiscal 2022 earnings results conference call.
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Thanks, Blake and thanks to all of you for joining us.
Tom I will review, our fourth quarter performance.
And briefly recap our progress throughout fiscal 'twenty two.
Also pretty good in the year ahead that is anticipated to build upon the strong momentum.
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Occur in the second half of fiscal 'twenty three.
As I think about the past year I am incredibly proud of our teams across the globe.
The body of the client focused profitable growth culture, we set out to establish despite a challenging and complex operating environment, we were able to demonstrate the significant value for clients and deliver on our strategic priorities our ability to achieve the highest annual revenue in Aramark history, combined with a second consecutive year of record.
Net new business is a testament to the exceptional talent embedded throughout our organization.
Aramark strong growth performance was broad based coming from multiple lines of business and geographies as well as from clients, both large and small.
Annualized gross new business wins exceeded $1 $6 billion, representing 10% is a pretty color physical 19 revenues and retention rates were once again above 95% as we sustain the step change and improvement.
Client retention.
Collectively this resulted in a $790 million.
Business, which is more than 50% higher than fiscal 'twenty, one and over eight five times greater than the company's historical five year average.
Fiscal 2016 through fiscal 'twenty.
This exceptional level of net new business, representing nearly 5% of our pre Covid fiscal 19 revenues already at the top end of the 4% to 5% range provided at our analyst day financial algorithm.
Again, our growth extended across all segments during the fiscal year.
Our U S facilities segment delivered over $400 million.
More than 40% higher than fiscal 'twenty, one and about 20 times higher than fiscal 19.
Correct and by strong retention, a significant gross new business wins, particularly in facilities healthcare and corrections.
International also reached a new milestone with nearly $300 million of net new business more than double last year.
Significant wins across the portfolio ranging in size from small start up operations to large multi site accounts like Maryland, which you may recall was the largest one in the company's history awarded earlier this year.
Even excluding Merlin net new business performance reflected a record result for the international segment, a testament to our growth strategies.
Success of our team.
Uniform services continued its strong growth momentum with net new business more than 25% higher than fiscal 'twenty, one and retention rates maintains a significant improvement from last year.
The continuous investment in the enterprise sales force and ongoing focus on customer experience have driven sustainable success.
New business wins and vertical sales opportunities.
Across the portfolio, we capitalize on greater first time outsourcing opportunities with over 45% of our wins coming from self op conversions, including six of our top 10 largest wins this year in the U S alone.
With our robust pipeline and commitment to drive profitable growth I remain confident in our ability to achieve our growth targets and drive our business to even greater heights.
I'd now like to review Earmarks financial performance in the fourth quarter.
Despite unprecedented global inflation levels, our teams remain focused on providing high quality service, while simultaneously working closely with clients to mitigate costs and implement pricing increase.
In the quarter pricing contributed more than 6% of revenue growth. Moreover, we are leveraging our robust supply chain to gain real time insights for effective pricing strategies tailored to specific clients sectors and geographies.
Environment is something we will continue to actively monitor and address as appropriate.
Our results in the fourth quarter continued to build both on the top and bottom line, reflecting a record level of net growth pricing and effective cost management through ongoing base recovery.
Organic revenue grew 26% year over year, reaching 113% of pre COVID-19 levels NOI margin increased nearly 140 basis points on a constant currency basis compared to the fourth quarter last year.
Within U S food and facilities organic revenue rose, 26% year over year with contribution from all sectors.
Vacation experience its typical people slow down in the summer months and is now off to a strong start in the new academic year as we welcome back students and educators and both collegiate hospitality student nutrition at the end of our fiscal fourth quarter.
Our teams have introduced new concepts, including innovative culinary offerings technological advances and enhanced dining spaces, where appropriate and possible. We have worked closely with clients to implement additional pricing actions for board plan and on campus retail outlets.
Sports leisure and correction continued its positive performance trajectory.
Fourth an entertainment maintained high attendance levels were better than historic per capita spending across events categories.
Also want to take this opportunity to congratulate our clients the Philadelphia Phillies and Houston Astros per bulk, reaching the world series.
Destinations have greater guest activity year over year, despite unforeseen weather and fire challenges at certain sites and corrections reported growth led by a record level of new business wins during the year.
Our workplace experience group showed progress has returned to office continued across the portfolio, particularly in September .
We're providing clients with solution oriented service that is customized to their specific needs with the transition back to P&L contracts occurring as volumes increase.
Healthcare plus recorded increased patient and retail activity as well as benefited from the contribution of a significantly higher net growth for newly awarded client contracts and improve.
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Facilities and other drove performance through ongoing demand and core business offerings at existing client locations and had a strong level of new wins throughout the year largely from self op conversions.
International organic revenue grew 39% compared to the fourth quarter last year driven by higher per capita spending at sports and entertainment venues, particularly in Europe , and Greif C&I activity across the portfolio.
More to the U S education internationally was largely closed in the summer and resumed activity at high levels with the start of the fall semester.
And another year of consistent net growth in international continued to drive strong results, creating additional scale across geographies.
Organic revenue in the uniform services segment increased 8% year over year, driven by both recurrent recurring rentals and adjacency services.
Cameron the team remained focused on building upon our momentum and executing on strategic growth initiatives across the estimated $40 billion market in North America.
We're making progress on our planned tax free spin off of this business into an independent company.
I'll be sharing further details in the new year regarding a strategic transaction.
I also want to reiterate that we expect to be able to complete the transaction under the terms of our existing debt agreements and we believe that with our prudent capital structure and strategy in place, which Tom will review both companies will be positioned for great success.
Lastly, I'd like to spend a moment sharing some recent initiatives focus on one of our core goals contributing to the greater good with our focus on people and planet.
First last month, we submitted our proposed greenhouse gas reduction targets for validation by the science based target initiative.
Next in partnership with the Humane Society, we announced our commitment that by 2025 at least 44% of our residential dining menu offerings will be plant based.
Third we signed the Pacific Coast food waste commitment as an extension of our existing pledge to reduce food waste by 50% by 2030.
And finally I want to commend the passion exhibited by thousands of Aramark teams, who worked around the world on a recent Aramark building community day, which consisted of service projects to reduce an equity support and grow local communities and protect the planet. Our people truly are the cornerstone of everything we do in this day of impact among men.
Hey, just one example that speaks volumes of our special culture, we have created.
I will now turn the call over to Tom for a detailed financial review of the business.
Thanks, John and good morning, everyone.
Our results in the fourth quarter and in fact, our performance throughout the entire fiscal year.
The resolve of our teams across the globe to execute on our growth driven strategy.
<unk> ongoing macroeconomic challenges, we continue to stay focus on delivering top and bottom line improvement and we remain committed to our long term priorities.
At Analyst day, we shared our plans to reestablish a growth culture.
Build the hospitality field focused mindset.
The margin through scale and Delever through focused cash management.
This strategy is yielding positive results and it is just the beginning.
John mentioned, we signed an historic high $1 6 billion of annualized gross new business in the year and our client focused field empowered approach delivered retention rates above 95% once again, resulting in record net new business levels.
Revenue and profits are on the rebound cashflows rebuilding and leverages reducing.
Again, keeping us on track to achieve our fiscal 'twenty five goals.
Before reviewing our fiscal 'twenty three outlook.
First provide some additional insights on our fiscal 'twenty two financial results.
In the fourth quarter organic revenue grew 26% year over year to $4 5 billion and exceeded $16 3 billion for the full year up 35% compared to the last fiscal year.
Performance was driven by strong net new business pricing pass through.
Ongoing recovery of Covid related volumes, which at just over 90% of pre COVID-19 levels for the year.
Aggressive each quarter from an estimated 85% in Q1 with about 95% in Q4.
We expect this COVID-19 related volume recovery to continue to contribute to both revenue and NOI results in fiscal 'twenty three most materially in the first half of the year.
Adjusted operating income was $267 million in the quarter constant currency increase of 62% compared to the fourth quarter last year.
Bolting in an AOI margin of six 2%.
Constant currency AOI margin was six 1%.
Due to an approximate 10 basis point impact from FX.
This performance reflects continued margin recovery with a fourth quarter closing in on 80% of the same quarter pre COVID-19 margins compared to 60% in the fourth quarter last year.
For the full year was $780 million, resulting in an NOI margin of four 9% nearly 250 basis points better than last year's NOI margin on a constant currency basis.
This progression was driven by our ability to contain above unit operational cost and leverage SG&A support across higher sales volume.
As well as benefits from a stabilizing supply chain.
Tight in unit cost management.
Our teams in partnerships with our clients have been and continue to be actively working to mitigate inflation through the various actions available to us across food labor and direct cost categories.
Ultimately passing through price as needed.
Where appropriate.
Over the course of the year, we've been gradually able to transact transitioned back to preferred suppliers and products is fill rates improved.
While there is still much more to go this year was an important step for a return to normal supply chain operations.
In addition, as the supply chain settles and our net new business growth significantly increases our managed spend will work to renegotiate current deals to achieve next generation savings is beginning and we are encouraged by the opportunity in front of us in this area.
As we've mentioned before the significantly higher levels of new business. We have delivered over the past two years tend to have a short term drag on margins either related to startup costs and natural account profitability ramp in.
In the interim these new accounts accelerate our topline growth and add to dollar profit today and will benefit margin as they mature over time, giving us confidence when combined with the supply chain opportunity and our ability to ultimately exceed pre COVID-19 al at margin levels and stay on track to deliver our analyst day margin target.
Our results in the quarter led to adjusted EPS of <unk> 49 on a constant currency basis.
Versus 22 in the fourth quarter last year.
Full year adjusted EPS was $1 20 on a constant currency basis compared to a loss of 29 in fiscal 'twenty one.
FX impacted adjusted earnings per share by one penny in the fourth quarter and by <unk> for the year.
On a GAAP basis, Aramark reported consolidated revenue of $4 4 billion operating income of 198 million and.
Diluted earnings per share of <unk> 29 for the fourth quarter.
For the full fiscal year consolidated revenue was $16 3 billion operating income was $628 million.
And diluted earnings per share for 75.
Now turning to cash flow.
Consistent with the typical seasonality of our business the fourth quarter generated a significant cash inflow.
Net cash provided by operating activities was $836 million and free cash flow was $717 million for the full year net cash provided by operating activities was $694 million and free cash flow was $330 million compared to $282 million in fiscal 'twenty one.
The year over year increase was the result of improved profit performance and slightly lower capital expenditures, partially offset by higher working capital related to net new business growth and recovering base account activity.
Our strong cash flow performance combined with significantly higher earnings resulted in an improved leverage ratio of five three times compared to seven four times.
At year end fiscal 'twenty one.
We remain on track to reduce leverage below three five times as mentioned at analyst day, and we believe we are well positioned to navigate the current environment with a net debt portfolio of more than 80% fixed rate instruments inclusive of swaps.
No significant maturities until 2025.
At over $1 $8 billion of cash availability at fiscal year end.
The planned uniform spin also create some degree of flexibility related to our balance sheet.
There are a number of different paths to execute the transaction, we will be strategic in managing the capital structure, particularly in the current environment.
In a way that we expect will maximize value for shareholders and best position each independent company versus chasing sustained success.
We are confident in our ability to complete the spin under our existing debt agreement.
And that we will not be required.
Fully or partially replace the existing capital structure.
Other than what we choose to do.
We continue to make progress in completing the essential task necessary for the separation and look forward to sharing additional details, including distinct financial targets and leverage profiles for each company.
As we get closer to completing the transaction.
So let me wrap up by sharing our outlook for fiscal 2023.
Based on our current expectations, we projected following full year total company performance.
Organic revenue growth between 11% and 13%, reflecting a slightly higher results than the approximately 18 billion mentioned during the last earnings call.
We expect the components of growth to include four 5% to 5% of net new business.
3% to 4% from recovery of Covid related volumes weighted to the first half of the year.
And 354% pricing, assuming the inflationary environment remains constant as we partner with our clients to balance operating costs with quality service.
Adjusted operating income growth of 34% to 39%.
This target, we expect to achieve 97% to 100% of our fiscal 19 pre COVID-19 OE dollar levels.
Lucid about the contribution from Union supply growth.
<unk> of which will remain excluded from our AOE until we lap the acquisition date in June .
Following a nearly 250 basis point improvement in margin in fiscal 'twenty, two our organic revenue outlook at the midpoint anticipate another roughly 100 basis point margin improved progression this coming year.
Finally, we expect free cash flow to be in a range of $475 million to $525 million before payment of the following items.
First we will make the last the two deferred FICA payments associated with the cares Act.
Last year and as a previous previously articulated.
We expect to make this payment of approximately $65 million in the first quarter.
Second we anticipate a cash flow impact of approximately $100 million to $120 million related to restructuring charges public company costs.
Transaction fees associated with the uniform spin.
After these specific items, we expect free cash flow to be in a range of $300 million to $350 million.
With the benefit of the strong cash flow generation combined with expected higher operating income.
Anticipate our leverage ratio to be between four and four five times by the end of fiscal 'twenty three.
This year is the next significant step on our journey to achieve our fiscal 'twenty five goals, we established at analyst day.
Our strategy is producing results.
We're excited to keep building on this momentum.
Thanks for your time this morning.
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Thank you Tom as.
As a company we've moved from recovery mode to growth mode, very quickly, including our fiscal year on substantially stronger footing and believe we are well poised to continue the strategic transformation, we set out to achieve back at the beginning of fiscal 'twenty.
This year, we achieved the highest annual revenue results in company history more than doubled our oi margin compared to last year and realized a second consecutive year of record net new business performance exceeding the midpoint of our original target by nearly $200 million.
Im extremely proud of the performance milestones we've accomplished this past year as a global team.
Fiscal 'twenty three is just underway with new client wins already occurring and as well as the strong pipeline of opportunities ahead with our planned strategic initiatives in place we have big goals for this year and beyond and we expect the exceptional momentum across the company will enable us to achieve them.
Everyone and operator, we'd now like to open the call for questions.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question. Please press Star then one one on your Touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers in order to accommodate all participants in the question queue. Please limit yourself to one question in.
One follow up.
Please standby, while we compile the Q&A roster.
And our first question coming from the line of.
Heather <unk> with bank of America.
Your line is open.
Hi, Thank you.
Two questions on revenue. The first is when you when you look at your outlook for for next year in terms of growth can you help us appreciate sort of the macro dynamic youre thinking about and if there is a tougher environment kind of well.
Sort of where you think you can I guess I guess, the give and take and your outlook.
Yes.
I think a couple of things there.
We feel as though one of the tailwind continues to be the outsourcing trend.
The net new business wins.
We have incredibly strong pipeline at the moment as we enter into fiscal 'twenty three so.
So we feel confident about that the teams are really starting to get stability in <unk>.
Sort of a pace to that.
Sure.
So their process that's been built here over the last couple of years. So I feel good about that again retention rates within our control.
And so that feels solid we actually have probably a lower level of rebate activity. This year than we've had in 'twenty three than we had in 2002.
So that's helpful as well.
Pricing is a big variable depending on what happens with inflation as I mentioned, certainly we will continue to.
Keep pace.
Between pricing pass through and mitigation activities.
That pricing really did accelerate for us in the second half as it needed to be needed to this year and so.
Inflation continues to move as it has been low.
Go ahead.
Keep pace it mitigates a bit.
It takes some pressure off and then lastly, the COVID-19 recovery.
Getting harder and harder to track that as we get further and further away from from early 2020.
And with some.
Recessionary pressures, particularly within business dining kicking in and it's really hard to.
Segregate those.
So those would be the overall comments I think.
Anything else John No I think that characterizes it well.
We're excited by the revenue achievement that cognex has been able to.
Establish our teams are very focused on the operating side of the business. We've got great momentum on the new account sales side very good retention activity. So we're confident in the revenue number but there are a couple of macroeconomic factors that could impact that.
Next year, and we will respond aggressively as we as we always do.
Thank you and as a follow up when you think about pricing.
On a longer term basis, if it turns out that we're in.
Higher than normal inflationary environment for <unk>.
Total years, rather than sort of just one or two years I guess, what is what does that mean for your business.
To take price.
Certainly and that type of environment.
And your ability to kind of manage that on the margin line as well.
Taking into account that you did a pretty good job this year.
Yes.
Absolutely the economic model that we've been operating in for decades, and we've seen different inflationary environments.
Both Tom and I have seen that both with high inflationary environments in a low inflationary environment a year or so.
We expect the business to be able to adjust our operators in the field will be able to adjust.
And again pricing activity will be a significant component of that and we've got very strong disciplines around it very strong technology to support and tools to support the pricing initiatives, we gave our frontline managers data.
On a monthly basis with respect to supply chain activity and cough, a food cost inflation. So they have the tools in place an.
In order to manage this and as you know we run the business with literally weekly P&L. So our frontline managers are constantly adjusting to the realities that they're operating in and when we expect to be able to continue to mitigate inflationary pressures through pricing or menu adjustments or supply chain changes, we've got a <unk>.
Number of tools to address it.
It's just the nature of the business and I'm confident our people will be able to manage through it.
Thank you gentlemen, our next question and our next question coming from the line of Ian Zaffino from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
Alright, great. Thank you very much.
On results here, so congratulations on that.
Congratulations.
It was a clean sweep on the AI side and Tom Jon Police also.
Uh huh.
Big accomplishment, so congratulations to you guys.
Okay.
Jonathan when you joined.
You mentioned in enhancing the sales force and that would be the driver of new business, but new business is clearly coming in better than expected.
What is going on there.
As far as is this just the sales force youre, putting in any in any other measures to get the growth that you have and then can you comment maybe on how much is market share per se versus industry growth in like a post.
Post COVID-19 environment. Thanks.
Certainly well there've been a number of actions.
<unk> taken over the last couple of years to drive this.
A step change in terms of new business growth.
One of which was as you described working on the sales organization, adding resources, adding sales management expertise.
And really.
Giving the sales organization and the operating organization the freedom to respond to customers.
<unk> developed proposals that are highly customized to meet their particular needs. So I think it's.
As both the tools as well as the resources in order to accelerate that that increased sales activity. It's also frankly cultural it is being it is the objective and the entire organization to grow we believe that our best pathway to improved earnings over time is to grow the business and so we've implemented.
Active programs for both the operators and the sales teams that are aligned with that so 40% 40% of the incentive compensation for the entire leadership team is focused on growth. So it's cultural resources.
Individual tactical decisions made inside the business.
Jeff.
Our focus we wake up every day thinking about how are we going to grow the organization and what accounts are working on and how are we going to achieve.
Higher growth rates as well as higher retention rates.
More cultural than anything else.
We're very excited about the results over the last two years and we have high expectations not only for this coming year, but for the entire future of the organization. It is the way that we will do business alright going forward.
I think just picking up.
On the topic.
On the market share point too because it's an important one.
We're in an industry, that's got tremendous opportunity.
Yes.
A lot of in sourced.
Opportunity that.
As we've seen over the last couple of years has started to move.
And consider outsourcing so that's really been.
Our head or sorry, a tailwind for us overall as an industry.
We don't focus that much on market shares it really just depends on the line of business in the country that we're in it varies.
We believe the opportunity really for the industry has to grow.
It's just a matter of taking advantage of it and having the right tools and processes and people in place to capture it.
Okay. Thanks for that color.
Tom I know you touched upon P&L and.
This impacted the P&L from <unk>.
<unk> plus.
Where are you in that <unk>.
Transition.
And then also can you maybe touch upon the margin implications as you do that.
And then maybe touching upon inflation as well when you think about.
P&L. Thanks.
Sure, we're not quite back to where we were at <unk> 19, where we had particularly in business dining we had.
About two thirds P&L.
Maybe a little bit more we're not we're not back there yet, but we are we are moving back.
Purposefully to TD.
To the P&L, we do like that model better in the long run.
It can be more profitable as we control the entire P&L and a lot of the decisions around it.
But we're doing it.
Very paced, making sure that it's.
It's driven by the volumes and the economics that they account.
Before we make that transition.
So that we really in the end are able to manage that margin. If we do it too quickly we would take a hit.
And so we want to make sure that it is.
An account by account case by case basis to transition.
In conjunction in conversation with the client so the margin implications should not be noticeable at all if we do it at the right time.
Yeah, that's right I would add that we're driven first by the service requirement of our clients and customers.
And the contractual modifications back the P&L will take place as revenues continue to increase as customers return to their work sites and again keep in mind. This was predominantly at P&I phenomenon.
And the other businesses they pretty much transitioned back to P&L. So.
As businesses.
Execute their return to work strategies in the Covid pandemic continues to move.
Moving into the past.
We will transition accounts as it makes sense.
And as our clients need us to or wanted to based on their service expectations.
Thank you and one for next question. Our next question in queue coming from the line of Andrew <unk> with JP Morgan. Your line is now open.
Hi, It's Andrew Tom I, just wanted to get the exact margin.
In the guide so you said nearly 100 basis points margin expansion for fiscal 2003, I assume you're using a $4 nine fiscal 'twenty two our base.
And when you say nearly 100 basis points is there a notable difference between constant currency and reported and so like what should we think of in terms of a target fiscal 'twenty three operating margin on a reported basis.
Yes.
Well, Andrew good sort of stick with that 11% to 13% topline growth from 34% to 39% Oi dollar growth you can you can work with those variables.
Come up with a margin that.
At a margin range.
So.
That's really the focus for US is to continue to grow those dollars and again, we think that at the midpoint, that's going to drive about 100 basis point margin improvement.
Year over year.
And as the 100 basis points reported or constant currency.
It would be reported okay. Thank you very much.
Thank you one moment. Please our next question now.
Next question in queue coming from the line of Toni Kaplan from James from Morgan Stanley . Your line is open.
Hi, I wanted to ask about competition. So on this slide where you broke out the source of new wins.
It looks like Youre getting additional wins from the regional players so anything to call out on that front or the sort of smaller players having more trouble competing because of the higher cost environment or would you attribute it to something else. Thanks.
Yes, Tony This is John I think.
I think thats, probably a good assessment.
Our.
The big step change continues to be the self op conversion activity.
<unk> increased over the norm and continues to run at a pace of probably 10% to 15% higher than the industry norm has been over the last.
10 to 15 years, so that would be the big step change.
The other areas are very.
Kind of typical.
There are years, where we compete against the other big three other out.
Excellent combos based on.
What they have what kind of rebuild activity exist in their contract base. This year, we had a higher level of rebuild activity based upon me.
Annualized <unk> of certain contracts and their expiration date, so it cycles.
I don't think Theres any real change in the competitive dynamic between the big three or the or the regionals, but I think additional cost pressures probably do have an impact on the on the smaller players our supply chain is much more robust and we're much more able to respond to those kind of cost pressures.
And then the smaller competitors are so but the big tailwind for US is really in the self op conversion mode and that looks like it's going to continue.
Yes understood.
To ask on the 2025 margin target of 7% seven 5% it sounded like from the prepared remarks, and this is consistent with prior quarters. It sounds like you're still confident in being able to achieve that.
You had put out that target before we really started to see inflation really escalate.
I know there were probably some supply chain issues at the time, but.
I think.
And it sounds like supply chain is moderating now so I just wanted to understand like just given that inflation has become a bigger factor or are there. Some offsets like what are the offsets needed to.
Get to that level is at the negotiations.
On that you mentioned Tom in the prepared remarks or are there other factors that we should be thinking about thanks.
Sure.
Certainly the inflation is.
It's been a headwind to that target from a year ago, and all things being equal probably.
Towards the lower end of the range.
Given the inflation impact than the higher end of the range with that said there are to your point some offsets.
Supply chain.
We'll continue to to mitigate we're confident of that and settle in over the course of these next three years as we move towards.
That period.
<unk> talked about with fiscal 'twenty five.
And then we also.
We continue.
New business wins, and the ability to leverage.
Those wins flow through our supply chain negotiations as well as.
Our above unit overhead costs are going to be.
The tailwind to the margin so we're growing and we're actually probably a year ahead of pace in terms of trying to get to that four 5% to 5%.
Net new business growth number we talked about at analyst day.
John and I are both very pleasantly surprised.
The way the teams have gelled and delivered that result.
A little bit quicker than anticipated so that that again benefits us.
As we build margin through scale.
Going forward over the next three years, so I think inflation is a.
A headwind, but I think that.
Some of the offsets or the pace of growth in the supply chain that way.
Thank you our next question and our next question coming from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is now open.
Hi, Good morning, Thank you for taking my questions.
Very strong gross new business wins, and maybe you could.
Give us a little bit more detail on.
What does that represent in terms of like a margin headwind in fiscal year 'twenty three just in terms of.
You have the ramp up they're not mature yet I'm not sure where you are yet with the fiscal year 'twenty one new deals is there some way to think about.
The underlying margin is improving by X amount, but there is a.
A headwind from these new deals are coming in faster than expected that is kind of limiting it a little bit and then I have one follow up.
Yes, it's a great question and I understand.
The outside looking in that it can be a little tough.
To dig into this area and it is an important one.
And I hate to give you this answer but it does depend it just depends on the size of the account.
Smaller accounts.
Ramp.
The natural margin relative.
Very quickly typically in the first six months to 12 months at the most the longer ones the bigger ones as we've talked about before particularly in the higher Ed or health care space.
Contend to take three years or so to ramp to that.
Then you've got the offsets.
Retention and proactive retention.
But what happens to the margin there so.
Theres a lot of moving pieces to it but typically.
You just want to work with that that one to three year basis.
Of margin maturity.
That would probably put you in the right direction.
Yes keep in mind.
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Yes.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt there keep in mind in this and when you have these accelerating net new business wins.
Last year was 500 this year. It's 800, so you have.
And accelerating growth in those new account wins. So the opening costs that are anticipated ramp in maturity costs that are anticipated are accelerating during that time period. So as you get to a more steady state it normalizes and it's much more it's much more predictable.
As we continue this acceleration process and we continue to believe that we won't be that we will.
Ramp up sales again this year in that.
So it's a little more difficult to predict exactly how that ramp will unfold based on the size of the accounts co location. The geography the type of operation. It is but we are highly confident in our ability to deliver on our app.
Analyst day targets.
Wade.
We've laid that growth into those targets as we establish that.
That program.
Yes so.
That's all unfolded here with respect to the performance of the company is very much the way, Tom and I predicted it and as we establish the plan. So we are confident in our ability to go ahead and hit those targets that we've identified.
Thank you our next question and our next question coming from the line of.
Neil Tyler Redburn. Your line is now open.
Good morning, Thank you.
A couple of questions left please firstly on the.
Conversion rate the speed of conversion of some of the longer term pipeline of new win opportunities that you see.
You mentioned.
Tom that.
You have sort of a year ahead of the original plan.
Is that.
Is that basically.
At the same size pie, but you've taken a bigger slice out of it.
As the pie grows.
The first question.
Secondly, you called out facilities, playing a fairly sizeable relevant you wins.
Whether that was sort of cross selling to existing clients or whether.
And that's actually.
Something thats brought new clients on board.
And then finally I'll chance one of them.
On margin as well and think just wonder if you could sort of help us understand in terms of the sequential.
Uplift that you talked about 100 basis points or so.
How.
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Price versus cost.
And the and specifically.
Yes.
The removal of some of those ramp up costs, how those sequentially are expected to contribute.
23 versus 2002 into that 100 basis points.
Okay.
That's a lot to unpack.
Good questions.
All of them, but let me start with the margin.
The as John just talked about the ramp that we've had some serious acceleration of that growth obviously from near zero.
In 19 into 'twenty.
Two 521 nearly 800 this year.
If you look at the guidance 23.
He is going to be north of 800.
That's where sort of hitting cruising speed.
To a degree in getting to that.
Four 5% to 5%.
Annualized net growth.
No.
The first half of the year to your question is going to be.
So I have more of the.
The startup costs that are.
New or incremental to the prior year, and then that will wane as the year goes on and certainly into $2004 25 is where we're hitting cruising speed and staying at cruising speed to John's point, we're just sort of lapping.
Prior year startup costs and those won't become as much of a factor over those next couple of years. So.
The pace of it is going to be more so in the first half in the second half if youre just looking at 'twenty three.
Okay. Thanks, Tom.
Comment on that John but in terms of pie size.
Ultimately, we are benefiting right now from both.
Taking.
Sure self ops has continued to be a.
Our primary source for us a little bit higher than the historical norm.
And then the regional players.
Of course, the other two big players.
In certain markets.
But the pie size has also increased.
It.
Year over the last couple of years.
So we're benefiting as an industry from.
Both.
Nominal.
Again, as we've said while May continue we don't feel as though we need.
Outsourcing.
We're going to continue to stay at those mid single digit rates that we reached this year and are expecting into 'twenty three.
So we're.
Very pleased with again to have it would be in a position to be able to capture.
This opportunity based on the investments we made.
Throughout the pandemic.
The results that our teams are are showing.
I had a question about facilities.
It hasn't, particularly been cross selling opportunities they've been.
Standalone beachhead opportunities.
And we do like that because getting into an account no matter what.
With either service Midwest facilities.
Good starting point for US and then ultimately can filter there that cross sell opportunity could be an opportunity.
Yes, I would just add that the facilities wins have been broad based across multiple industries and multiple geographies.
Both standalone and existing customers. So it's Ed.
Very significant year for them.
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It's a business we operate in a couple of different forms obviously, you've got the standalone facilities business, but we also serve facilities customers in the healthcare space managed by health care. So yes, it's a great segment for what for US one that will continue to focus on growing and.
And their wins this year have been both self op conversions as well as existing account conversion. So just a really nice year for facilities as a business unit.
Fantastic.
Thank you Manuel for next question in queue. Our next question in queue coming from the line of Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Your line is now open.
Great. Good morning, Thanks for taking my questions everyone. I guess I was kind of question on the capital structure.
And that you've got the flexibility and you don't have to do anything that would you choose to do I was hoping you could explain a little bit more about what that means.
I guess with the uniform business, representing probably just over $400 million of EBITDA.
The company's leverage being at the end of the year around four times or so it feels like there is at least $1 billion of half of new debt, that's going to have to get reformulated somewhere do you have the ability to pay off your existing series of debt and partially without having to redeem them and fall or.
Maybe Tom you could just give us a little bit more detail as to how you plan to effectuate, the new capital structure over there at least.
Yes, it's still prefer not to give out or.
Go into too much detail at this point because the markets move we're continuing to evaluate what's best I think the key point is that Theres really nothing were our hands being forced to do.
With the transaction Andrew.
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That.
It is going to put us in a position.
But we really don't want to be here.
So how we how we ultimately.
Finalize the details what we pay off what we refinance.
It's all being determined and will again give you more details on that as we move forward and get a little closer to the transaction.
Okay, we'll stay tuned for that I guess my follow up question I wanted to ask about the international segment, a little bit more.
Was hoping you could just comment on on the margins in that business. In particular, obviously this business has got a lot more of a dynamic economy certainly that's.
Happening there and I wanted to understand how that's affecting your profit margins in that segment, specifically and how much more you have on on variable costs to potentially manage those margins if needed recognizing that youre coming out of Covid, where you're actually probably did a lot of those.
Activities already.
Maybe if you could just kind of boil it down to help us understand what the margins could be in 2023, because that would be helpful. Thank you.
Yes.
The margins in neurovascular move forward quite nicely actually.
They have a model that's more stable we've talked about that before.
Their sales growth has been more consistent so it really is a bit of a proof source as to what's happening in the U S. As we as we rebuilt the growth engine.
And margin through scale model you are sorry, the international business has really been doing that for a number of years. So they were able to move the margin.
North of 4% this year.
And then we will continue.
Reached pre COVID-19 levels.
I think in 'twenty three.
We're very close to that.
So they.
They've got the same levers.
As the U S.
Account.
From an account basis.
What they do to drive margin and again, they've been able to scale.
Through their growth.
Benefiting from the supply chain.
And the managing an EW that overheads quite nicely.
This past year and we're expecting the same in 'twenty three and then from an inflation standpoint, they just they just have.
It's part of it the DNA for them and many other countries.
Their ability to price.
As part of the mix for them as a part of what.
The challenge they face again in many parts of the international business for some time.
Thank you. Our next question. Our next question in queue coming from the line of Faiza <unk> from Deutsche Bank.
Yes, hi, good morning.
I was hoping to get an update on the labor environment.
Yeah.
The labor environment continues to be challenging pretty much everywhere around the world. We've got however, we have been able to through.
Through the use of both technology and a number of tools and resources, we've established for people on the <unk>.
The businesses, we've been able to meet the staffing challenges.
But are you in that space.
A very very strong talent acquisition organization, that's been in place for a number of years.
And is very adept at meeting the recruiting needs.
The business as you know we have a couple of businesses that have very strong seasonal ramp up activity. So we've got the processes.
For the organization in order to meet those will ramp up demand for sports and entertainment higher education.
Their businesses.
And so we've been able to go ahead and.
Meet the meet the needs of the business.
One of the tools that we've put in place over there.
Course of the last year with daily pay that was a very strong incentive for.
Lower agent lower wage earners to go ahead and join Aramark as they were able to access their pay on a daily basis.
Very very little cost to them and that was that's been very very successful.
In terms of driving recruitment activity.
So all in all still the pressures exist but.
But we do see a softening in the labor market as you've seen the announced layoffs and others. We're beginning to see more people returned to work and.
A higher level of concern so I would say our turnover numbers are kind of normalized and our recruitment activities are in very good shape.
Thank you.
Our next question in queue coming from the line of Manav Patnaik from Barclays. Your line is open.
Good morning. Thank you. This is actually running Kennedy on for Manav I, just reconfirm for the 11% to 13% organic contributions from each of.
Net gross price volume Covid recovery and <unk>.
Can be particularly mindful in consideration of timing I think you had said most of the Covid recovery should come in the first half and then lastly, any insights for organic constant currency revenue expectations by segment.
Yes, the Kobe recovery, we do expect to be weighted more to the first half.
Yes.
We lapped we got that.
95% here in the fourth quarter, a little better than that actually.
And so by the time, we get the next fourth quarter.
That should be waning.
As we've talked about.
Much less in the first quarter of last year in terms of recovery. So so first half weighted on that.
On the other.
No no real comment on those.
The split.
By geography.
Okay and can I ask you just to repeat the contributions from net growth price.
Volume and.
Eric Covid recovery.
Sure. It's all one of the.
It's on the slides attached to.
No problem four five to five for net growth.
3% to four from Covid recovery.
354 for pricing again, assuming a constant play.
Every environment.
Okay. Thank you and as a follow up.
Right.
Thank you and our last question coming from the line of Stephanie more from Jefferies. Your line is open.
Stephanie Moore your line is open.
Hi, Good morning, I wanted to touch on the business and industry.
<unk> going to see a nice recovery there could you maybe speak to areas where you've seen.
There are areas, where it might be lagging just versus those pre COVID-19 levels in other areas. We've seen some improvement here during the quarter and particularly throughout the year and then I just wanted to get your high level thoughts as you think about.
This business returning to pre COVID-19 levels and what that means just given hybrid work schedule seed companies that have may be produced office space.
At the same time, the opportunity to gain new business with kind of how all of those triangulate together. Thank you.
Yes.
That business.
It has continued to have net new business growth year over year, it's performing very nicely.
We do have varying states of recovery amongst the clients that we serve.
Some are back on a 100% obviously, the blue collar operations back on 100% and still some white collar operations lagging and particularly in the coastal.
Environments, if you will so to call up the financial sector.
Hi Tech sector, but even those over the course of the last couple.
A couple of months those have.
Begun to improve dramatically we saw based on these results is a significant transition in September we continue to see an acceleration of that return to work throughout the first quarter of the new year, which I won't comment on but we do see that pace of change accelerating we believe that this business will be highly <unk>.
Profitable going forward.
Plenty of growth opportunity in this segment and while individual client locations may be different than they were pre COVID-19 that overall the business will be very strong fundamentally a good business to be in.
So it may look a little bit different in terms of the customers, we serve and the type of services that they want and the individual locations, but ultimately we see this as a core business for the company with strong growth dynamics.
And a very strong leadership team in place to continue that growth.
Great I appreciate the time thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Zillmer for closing remarks.
Terrific. Thank you very much everybody for joining us. This morning, we obviously are very excited about the performance of the company in the fourth quarter and our prospects for fiscal 'twenty three.
We're excited about the growth the company has been able to achieve.
Net new business wins.
And we have a strong commitment to those goals that we've established as an organization for.
Our analyst day for both growth and margin.
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We will be back together again here at the end of the first quarter to talk about.
Talk more about the spin.
The implications for both sides of the business going forward.
And we will update you then at that time so thanks.
Thank you again for the time this morning, and look forward to continuing our conversations in the near future. Thank you.
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