Q3 2022 Hackett Group Inc Earnings Call
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Welcome to the Hackett Group third quarter earnings Conference call. Your lines have been placed on a listen only mode until the question and answer session.
Please be advised the conference is being recorded.
Hosting tonight's call are Mr. Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO and Rob Mr. Rob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Ramirez, you may begin.
Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us to discuss the Hackett group's third quarter results.
And on the call today and here to answer your questions are Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO of the Hackett group and myself, Robert Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer.
A press announcement was released over the wires at four <unk> PM Eastern time for.
For a copy of the release please visit our website at Www Dot group Dot com.
We will also placing additional financial or statistical data discussed on this call that is not contained in the release on the Investor Relations page of our website.
Before we begin I would like to remind you that in the following comments and in the.
A question and answer session.
We'll be making statements about expected future results, which may be forward looking statements for the purposes of the federal Securities laws.
These statements relate to our current expectations estimates and projections and are not a guarantee of future performance. They involve risks uncertainties and assumptions are difficult to predict and which may not be accurate.
Especially in light of COVID-19 actual results may vary.
Forward looking statements should be considered only in conjunction with the detailed information, particularly the risk factors that are contained in our OCC province.
At this point I would like to turn it over to Chuck.
Thank you, Rob and welcome everyone to our third quarter earnings call as we normally do I'll open the call with some overview comments on the quarter I will then turn it back over to Rob to review our detailed operating results cash flow and provide our quarterly guidance. We will then review our market strategy related comments after which we will open.
Is it up to Q&A.
This afternoon, we reported total revenues of $72 million and revenues before reimbursements of $71 million and adjusted earnings per share of $30 <unk> expense, which was above our quarterly guidance and up 19% on a year over year basis.
Our results were driven by 11% growth in revenues before reimbursements from our global SPT group, which also reported.
The year over year segment profit growth of 18%. This growth was driven by our strong SPT consulting performance and volume growth and increasing revenue mix of our higher margin research advisory and Ips service offerings.
This highlights the reasons why we have accelerated our investments in this area.
The quarter benefited from the growth of our Ipass revenues as our contract. We discussed last quarter continue to ramp. We also continue to be actively engaged in contract and pilot discussions with other several large software and service companies to help them bolster their value selling and value realization efforts.
Our results also benefited from the growth of our research advisory business during the quarter, we launched our first of three new market intelligence programs that we plan to launch by year end. These programs allow us to compare the differentiating capabilities of software and services providers.
Which should help them strategically support their sales and marketing efforts.
The global SPP or strategy and business transformation segment revenue growth was partially offset by the results of our Oracle and SAP.
Segments.
Which were down as expected in the quarter both groups have been rebuilding their pipelines after a strong 2021 performance.
Now expect year on year revenues for both segments to level off in Q1 and returned to growth in Q2 of 2023.
Our investments that we made to fully digitize, our IP and the development of our digital platforms, which include quantum leap our state of the art global benchmarking platform and our proprietary Hackett digital transformation platform or DTP are starting to pay off these platforms are allowing us to highly differentiate all of our offerings and <unk>.
Also develop develop new licensing and research relationships with software and services providers across the enterprise.
On the balance sheet side.
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That the reduction of the dividend payment due to this buyback is expected to offset more than half of our net tax interest expense that we expect to incur as we have discussed on our last few calls we wanted to be more aggressive with our balance sheet by expanding our credit facility to fund acquisitions and Dubai.
Back stock, while continuing to invest in our business with that said, let me ask Rob to provide details on our operating results cash flow and also comment on outlook I will make additional comments on strategy and market conditions. Following Rob's comments, Rob. Thank you Ted.
As I typically do I'll cover the following topics. During this portion of the call I'll go through an overview of our third quarter results along with an overview of related key operating statistics.
Ill go over an overview of our cash flow activities in the quarter and I'll conclude with a discussion on our financial outlook for the fourth quarter of 2020, 'twenty two as well as make some comments in relation to the Dutch.
Before moving to our results I would like to comment on the Form 10-K that was filed this evening.
Based on common letters and discussions with the staff with the SEC.
The company concluded that we had a material weakness in our internal controls natural reporting as it relates to segment disclosures.
It is important to note that the ambition of additional segment disclosures did not result in material misstatement of the company's financial statements.
Effective in the third quarter of 2022, the company has reorganized its operating and internal reporting structure to better align with its primary market solutions.
Due to this reorganization the company is expanding its reporting to three segments.
One global strategy and business transformation or global SPT.
To Oracle solutions and three our SAP solutions.
As a result, I will comment separately regarding the revenues of our global SPT Oracle solutions group, our SAP solutions group and the total company.
Our global <unk> group includes the results of our North America and International IP as a service offerings. Our research advisory programs and benchmarking services are one stream offerings and our business transformation.
Our Oracle solutions and our SAP solutions segments include the results of our North America, and the <unk> offerings respectively.
Please note that we will be referencing both total revenues and revenues before reimbursements in our discussion.
Reimbursable expenses are primarily project travel related expenses passed through to our clients and have no associated impact to our profitability.
During our call today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe provide useful information to investors.
We included reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures in our press release filed earlier today and we will post in the additional information based on the discussions from this call key Investor Relations page of the company's website.
For the third quarter of 2022, our total revenue was $72 million or revenues before reimbursements were $71 million, which was in line with our quarterly guidance.
Third quarter Reimbursable expense ratio on revenues before reimbursements was one 5% as compared to one 6% from the prior quarter and 7% when compared to the same period in the prior year.
Post COVID-19.
As we've said we have experienced increased client related travel however, given our transition to a remote delivery model. We do not expect these project related travel expenses to return to pre COVID-19 levels.
Revenues before reimbursements for a global SMB segment were $41 1 million, an increase of 11% when compared to the same period in the prior year, reflecting the continued year over year growth since the second quarter of 2020, and the continuing demand for digital transformation investments.
The U S. SMB see revenue before reimbursements growth was 13, 2% and international SME two was one 6%, but was 60% utilizing the same.
Foreign currency rates.
In the third quarter of the prior year.
Revenues before reimbursements for Oracle solutions segment were $17 4 million.
The decrease of 16% when compared to the same period in the prior year.
We experienced extended client decision, making during the quarter as clients, we considered their spending priorities.
As we exited the quarter. However, several large opportunities closed which is further evidenced that the digital transformation demand remains healthy.
Revenues before reimbursements for SAP solution segment was $12 5 million a decrease of 10% when compared to the same period in the prior year.
As we have stated previously S&P solutions is coming off a strong 2021 results. It continues to rebuild the pipeline and the completion of some large S&P engagements late in 2021.
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Approximately 21% of our total company revenues before reimbursements consistent recurring subscription based revenues, which includes our research advisory IP as a service multiyear benchmarks and application managed service contracts.
Total company adjusted cost of sales, which exclude reimbursable expenses and noncash stock based compensation expense totaled.
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Total company consultant headcount was 1121 at the end of the third quarter as compared to total company consultant headcount of 1122 of the previous quarter and 1075 at the end of the third quarter of 'twenty one.
The year over year increase was primarily the result of hiring activities and increase utilization of subcontractors.
Total company adjusted gross margin and revenues before reimbursements, which excludes reimbursable expenses and noncash stock based compensation expense.
It was 41, 9% in the third quarter of 2022.
As compared to 39% in the prior year period.
The 290 basis point gross margin improvement was primarily driven by the relative mix of higher margin global SWT revenues as well as higher margin var sales during the quarter.
Adjusted SG&A, which excludes noncash stock based compensation expense.
Intangible asset amortization and restructuring activity.
The $14 8 million or 19, 4% of revenues before reimbursements in the third quarter.
This is compared to $13 6 million or 19, 1% of revenues before reimbursements in the prior year period.
Adjusted EBITDA was $16 9 million or 23, 7% of revenues before reimbursements in the third quarter of 2022.
As compared to $15 1 million or 21, 1% of revenues before reimbursements in the prior year.
GAAP net income for the third quarter of 2022 totaled $10 4 million or diluted earnings per share of <unk> 32 for the third quarter of 'twenty two.
As compared to GAAP net income of $8 1 million or diluted earnings per share of <unk> 25 in the third quarter of the previous year.
Adjusted net income, which excludes noncash stock based compensation expense and restructuring activities in the third quarter of 2022.
Totaled $11 8 million or adjusted diluted net income per common share of 37.
This is above the high end of our earnings guidance range.
Our adjusted net income for the third quarter of 2022 was favorably impacted by approximately one.
Due to the utilization of our GAAP effective tax rate on adjusted earnings, which was 26% as compared to 28% that was utilized for our third quarter 2022 guidance.
In Q2 of this year, we moved to an actual GAAP effective tax rate for adjusted net income purposes.
This compares to adjusted net income of $10 3 million or adjusted diluted net income per common share of 31 in the third quarter of the prior year.
Adjusted net income for the prior year included an effective tax rate of 27, 8% on a GAAP basis.
The company's cash balances were $67 million at the end of the third quarter of 2022 as compared to $61 7 million at the end of our previous quarter.
Net cash provided by operating activities in the quarter was $9 8 million, primarily driven by net income adjusted for noncash activity and increases in income tax liabilities, partially offset by increases in accounts receivable and decreases in accrued expenses of contract liabilities.
Our DSO or days sales outstanding at the end of the quarter was 66 days as compared to 59 days at the end of the previous quarter, primarily due to quarter end SAP license related sales.
Our remaining stock repurchase authorization at the end of the quarter was $10 6 million.
Subsequent to the quarter the company's board of directors authorized a $120 million increase in the company's share repurchase authorization.
Additionally, the board declared the fourth quarterly dividend of <unk> 11 per share for shareholders of record on December 23rd 2022 to be paid on January six 2023.
Before I move to guidance for the fourth quarter of 2022.
I would like to remind everyone of the seasonality of our business specifically.
Specifically the increased holiday and vacation time that has historically taken in the fourth quarter will decrease our available billing days by approximately 8% to 10% when compared to the third quarter.
The company estimates total revenue before reimbursements for the fourth quarter of 2022 to be in the range of $66 million to $68 million.
We expect global SMB revenue before reimbursements to be up on a year over year basis, and we expect local solutions and <unk> solutions to be down on a year over year basis.
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Adjusted diluted net income per common share in the fourth quarter of 2020 due to be in the range of 33 to 35.
Which assumes an effective tax rate on adjusted earnings of 28%.
It is important to note the GAAP results for the fourth quarter of the prior year included a $7 7 million or <unk> 23 cents per diluted share tax benefit related to the exercise of our outstanding share appreciation rates, which will impact year over year comparisons.
We expect adjusted gross margin and revenues before reimbursements to be approximately 44% to 45% we.
We expect adjusted SG&A interest expense in the fourth quarter to be approximately $50 million.
We expect fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA and revenues before reimbursements from the range of approximately 23, 24%.
Now let me provide some details regarding our tender offer that Ted mentioned.
The company announced today is planning to launch a tender offer to purchase up to $120 million in value of its common stock at a price not greater than $20 50.
Nor less than $23 50.
We expect to launch the tender offer tomorrow, which would mean it would expire on December eight 2022.
We plan to conduct a tender offer to a procedure, commonly known as a modified Dutch auction.
This procedure allows stockholders to selective price within the specified price range set by the company at which stockholders are willing to sell their shares.
The company will select the single lowest purchase price within the range that will allow the company to purchase a $120 million in value of shares at such a price based on the number of shares tendered.
All shares purchased in the tender offer will be purchased at the same price.
The tender offer will only be made pursuant to the offer to purchase the related letter of transmittal and the other tender offer materials, which the company will file tomorrow with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Any specific questions should be addressed directly with the dealer manager or the information agent for the tender offer their contact information will be included in the press release issued tomorrow announcing this into offer and in the tender offer materials being filed with the SEC tomorrow.
Additionally, subsequent to the end of the third quarter. The company entered into a new five year $100 million credit facility with Bank of America and U S Bank.
Under the credit agreement. These banks have agreed to lead the company up to $100 million.
From time to time pursuant to our revolving line of credit.
The loans under the credit facility will bear interest based on the Bloomberg short term bank yields index or busy plus an applicable margin, which ranges between one five and 225 per annum.
The proceeds of the credit facility will be used along with cash on hand for the purchase of the shares in the tender offer along with the related fees associated with the offer and the credit facility.
Lastly, we expect our cash balances were down from the third quarter as we plan to use approximately $50 million in cash to fund the tender offer as well as costs associated with the tender offer and credit facility.
At this point I would like to turn it back over to Ted to review, our market outlook and strategic priorities for the coming months. Thank you Rob as we look forward, let me share our thoughts on the near and long term demand environment and on the growth opportunity. It offers our organization.
Digital innovation and enterprise cloud applications analytics, and infrastructure workflow automation and process mining are dramatically influencing the way businesses compete and deliver their services.
Digital transformation is redefining all activities at an accelerated pace, forcing organizations to fundamentally change and adopt these new capabilities in order to remain competitive.
Clients understand that that payback from digital transformation projects are critical to their long term competitiveness and as they evaluate the fed's aggressive attempts to slow down the economy and the impact on their respective businesses as well with that said, although digital transformation demand remains strong it is being impacted by it.
<unk> decision, making as organizations assess competing priorities created by the increasing interest rates during the quarter, we experienced a disruption of a meaningful project and notice notice clients reassessing their spending priorities. However, we also saw other large projects go forward as we exited the quarter during the.
Florida, We also saw some of our clients rebalanced their spend with productivity and strategic cost reduction efforts, which are also core to our offerings.
On the talent side competition for experienced talent continues, but we saw turnover moderate during the quarter and expect that trend to continue.
Long term, we have transitioned to a hybrid sales and delivery model, which provides us with effective access to our clients and their respective teams. This hybrid model provides our associates with greater personal flexibility to perform their defined responsibilities, which is very valuable to them.
This should also allow us to attract and retain talent that we have struggled to retain because of the demanding historical travel requirements of our industry.
Strategically we are accelerating our focus on our recurring high margin IP related services.
By increasing the content development and the sales and marketing resources dedicated to this area.
Additionally, we have increased our investment in our research advisory member platform and expect to have a new version launched in early 2023.
As I previously mentioned, we have also started to launch a series of new market intelligence programs that will help assess and highlight the unique capabilities of software and services providers across selected categories.
Our goal is to launch three programs by year end and then further accelerate the number of new programs launched in 2023.
We are absorbing these increased costs in our current results, but believe that they can add high margin recurring revenue.
It is also important to note that we continue to see increasing downstream revenues from our benchmarking and research advisory clients to our business transformation and technology consulting services over the last two years over 40% of our consulting services have come from our research advisory and benchmarking client base.
Simply put organizations, who rely on our IP research and benchmarking services are also more likely to utilize our consulting services.
We are also exploring strategic relationships that will allow us to syndicate, our IP through new channels that will allow us to reach significantly beyond the current global one focus in a very efficient manner. We expect to launch the first of these relationships, which should result in new high return margin revenue prior to the end.
Of the year.
We will also continue to redefine our global benchmarking leadership to enhancements in quantum leap, our digital benchmarking software as a service solution along with our digital transformation platform. These platforms to allow us to deliver more information with significantly less effort.
They are also the underpinning technology for our IP as a service offering.
It also allows our clients to leverage our IP to create compelling benefit case assessments accelerate process flow and software configuration decisions and track the value realization of transformation initiatives over the life of their respective effort. We believe there is no comparable IP led platforms in the market.
As I've been mentioning on our calls we have added a 20 minute demo of our Investor Relations page on our website. So that investors can become familiar more familiar with the capabilities of our platforms. We plan to refresh refresh those as well as we enter 2023 for those of you who have been exposed to it before and just want to continue to see our inner.
Nation Lastly.
Lastly, even though we believe that we have the client base and the offerings to grow our business. We continue to look for acquisitions and alliances that strategically leverage our IP and add scope scale and capability, which can accelerate our growth at all as always let me close by congratulating our associates on our performance and by thanking them for their tireless efforts and always parts of.
The stay highly focused on our clients and our people no matter what challenges we may encounter those conclude my comments, let me turn it over to our operator, and let's move into the Q&A section of our call.
Operator.
Thank you at this time, if you would like to ask a question. Please ensure that your phone is muted press star one and record your name clearly when prompted.
Would need to withdraw your question you May press star two.
Again to ask a question please press star one.
Our first question is from Jeff Martin with Roth Capital Partners You May go ahead.
Thanks, Good afternoon Ted.
Well, Thanks, Jeff Hey, Jeff.
Ken I wanted to see.
You mentioned the disruption of a meaningful contract with an SNB tea in the quarter was curious if that was a temporary disruption or if thats going to continue to do it.
Impact Q4, and if that was part of the consideration within their guidance for the quarter.
It was clearly part of our consideration.
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There is a difference between an actual project stopping which by the way impacted Q3 by probably.
A penny or two in impacts Q4 by a penny or two but overall, what we're seeing is the demand and activity.
The digital transformation initiatives remain unchanged.
We're seeing clients being challenged in new ways in other ways, which forces them to re prioritize and rethink.
Their spend and we know we're not unaffected by it we are benefiting some by some of our benchmarking and strategic cost reduction activity.
Which comes with some of those clients reassessing their spending priorities.
But look.
We're expecting these extended decision this extended decision making to continue until we see it change so that's what's reflected in our guidance.
Great and then with respect to process mining could you give it.
Maybe a progress report on.
What's been done this year to position the business.
For that market and if thats contributing to revenue and profitability out of that is more of a 2023 and beyond.
The impact driver.
No. It continues to be an area of what we believe has high potential to our business model, but when we look mid year. When we looked at the opportunities we had with Ipass growth.
With the.
The content development and launching of new market intelligence programs Syndicating, our IP all of which we controlled we actually stopped the strategic joint venture efforts that we had launched earlier in the year and moved our time and attention to these other areas, which.
Again, we totally controlled and.
We really like the prospects of what we were seeing.
Okay, and then with respect to your target model, which is 5% to 10% revenue growth I think 15% to 25%.
Earnings growth.
I would imagine you'd be at the low end of that range. Initially in terms of setting an expectation for 2023 Im just curious if you could comment around that.
Well if you if we were trying to just crystal ball, we'll just assume that.
If you want to call it the slowing economy will impact.
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This fourth quarter and impact perhaps the first half of the year with that said, we would expect if demand remains unchanged and four.
The concerns around the economic slowdowns to abate that.
We would go back to a pretty strong second half of 2023 and that the investments that we're making across all of our new programs and increased sales investments, we're making around our research advisory programs.
All of those things for them to contribute.
Two to what we would consider our normal long term growth rate, but what we're seeing is that.
We continue this growth growth that would come at higher margins, so you're seeing that our operating margins EBIT EBITDA margins are all improving.
And we would expect that to be on an increasing recurring basis. So.
We believe that Thats, where the prospects of our business have its greatest potential.
And and.
Then.
Let's go back and talk about our Oracle and SAP solutions.
Even though it was.
It's been a rough 21.
Sorry, 'twenty two for that group of pretty piece of 'twenty one.
Look we're seeing good activity in those groups.
We believe that they should continue to at least contribute growth at the low end of our long term growth rate in any environment and we also believe that their margin profiles as we continue to leverage offshore more which we did mentioned, but if youll see were managing wage increases are being.
Nicely offset by the continued increase of offshore resources across all of our three segments. All of those things are contributing in creating a.
Our margin profile.
If you said if you were to operate anywhere near the high end of our revenue growth rate with that new margin profile. The profile the profitability profile for the business is clearly increasing which you've seen throughout all of 2022, I mean, it's easy to it's easy to forget because.
We're all getting all now when I say all of us our clients and ourselves are getting impacted by these increasing rates along with some of the other challenges that other industry space.
But when you consider the very strong first half of the year that we had even with this let's call it slowing second half compared to that first half.
We still expect our 'twenty two results to be in excess of our historical record 2021 results.
That's helpful I'll pass it off thanks.
Thank you and just as a reminder to ask a question. Please press star one hour.
Our next question is from Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research you May go ahead.
Yes, Ted first question is what gives you confidence in an upturn.
On the Oracle and Sap's side, I think you said the second quarter of next year.
Just just the activity that we've seen even in the third and what we see in the pipeline going into the fourth quarter and and some.
Some of those sizable engagements that we said that we signed as we exited Q3 and enter Q4.
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One of those two groups. So it's just the activity that's why I didn't back off on on the activity or demand around digital transformation.
We know that there are clients are facing other considerations and it will impact.
Pipeline velocity and conversion and we should plan for it but the activity itself.
It remains very strong impact we've seen clients in industries that.
I have been that are have been incredibly affected by some of both the COVID-19 and geopolitical.
Issues that they faced not only in 'twenty, one but in through 'twenty to continue to invest in these digital transformation initiatives in spite of those ill call them headwinds that they're facing so that's what that's why I continue to say.
The demand is calling no nowhere.
Look.
We're just going to have some headwinds as clients decide how it's impacting their respective businesses and.
And we'll have to manage through that we think we will do so successfully.
Could you give us an update on how many IP as a service deals you're currently in negotiations with.
Actually in and.
And contracting pilot and the like we're probably got another two to four that are active right. Now. So hopefully we will we will have some of those some signed here before the end of the year and then as I said previously we would hope that we're able to see additional ones in 2023.
And.
Is.
Are you seeing increased demand for more offshore and the software implementation side.
Given the economic pressures and could that be a headwind to revenue.
For those businesses.
No but.
But any one who is going to be delivering technology related services has to have an appropriate blend of offshore resources to compete.
I mean.
I will bet I'm not going to bet I've got I've got Rob sitting in front of me, but our offshore resources are probably approaching 50% of our total resource on our Oracle and SAP groups and they continue to increase so not only are they are they helpful for us leveraging offer.
Setting wage increases.
For all of it really across the globe.
Mix change.
But they are making us there.
They're making sure that we stay very competitive with any rate related or pricing related issues clients may bring.
Thanks Ted.
Mhm.
Thank you. The next question is from George Sutton with Craig Hallum. You May go ahead.
Thank you.
I'm stunned the question hasn't been asked yet.
Bold move with the Dutch auction at this time in the economy and this time in the market. So can you just give us some perspective of why now versus say why why not six months ago. What are you seeing that giving you the increased conviction.
And by the way a lumpiness.
Okay.
It's been a consideration throughout the entire year. So it is something that we.
We launched in the year.
That's something that we knew was going to be a strategic alternatives as we considered other strategic alternatives.
That said.
And we weren't able to get it all done maybe as timely as we hoped.
But when we consider the fact, when we look at the cash flow that we're generating.
We've looked at the volatility of our shares.
We thought that just continuing to sit on our balance sheet.
Especially when you consider I'm going to repeat the comment that I made that the interest expense that we're incurring.
Will be significantly offset by the elimination of the dividend on the shares that are being repurchased.
And the if you want to call out the tax affect interest expense, so our net of dividend and tax.
Interest expense will remain very low for us.
So when we took all of those things into consideration.
We said, we said on it I thought I personally sat on it as we looked at other strategic considerations, including acquisitions throughout 'twenty one.
I did want to let the year go by.
Like the strength of our operational strength of our earnings cash flow, we're generating so.
We decided to go forward with it.
So in other words, you've actively looked at strategic opportunities from an M&A perspective, and found that your own shares of the best investment I guess that would be the logical summary.
That is correct, especially when you look at what we believe are the growth prospects from our.
Research related offerings Ipass licensing all of the above.
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We think it's a great investment.
So you mentioned new research advisory platform to launch in early 2023 can you just give us some sense of what.
What the incremental adds might be there or what's different about that platform.
Well im embarrassed to say that the existing member.
Portal has taken our platform has taken a back seat to the significant investments that we've made in quantum leap and digital transformation over the last three years to four years, it's something that we probably should have and did start earlier, but it took a backseat to these other platforms that you know, Georgia turned out to be very important.
To our current offerings.
With that said when we look at the amount of money, we're spending now to growth programs and to grow the sales force around those research programs.
We said, we better get a state of the art.
Remember platform in place as we do that all throughout 2023 so.
Let's see if we get that first version out early in 2023 clearly are.
Our members deserve it.
Super Thanks.
Thanks, guys I appreciate it.
George.
Thank you and at this time I show no further questions I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Fernandez.
Well I would like to thank everyone for participating in our third quarter earnings call. We look forward to updating all of you. When we report the fourth quarter as Rob said, you will see press releases that will be going out tomorrow, along with the details of our Dutch tender offer that will go out before the market opened thank you again for participating.
Yes.
Thank you that does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating you may disconnect at this time.
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