Q1 2023 Vintage Wine Estates Inc Earnings Call
Speaker 2: After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Deborah Polowski, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. I apologize.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Sachi, and good afternoon everyone. We certainly appreciate your time today and your interest in vintage wine estates.
Speaker 3: Joining me on the call are Pat Roney, our founder and CEO , Terry Wheatley, our president, and Chris Johnston, our CFO . You should have a copy of our earnings release that crossed the wires after the market, as well as the slide deck that will accompany our conversation today. If you do not have these documents, they can be found on our website at ir.vintagewineestates.com.
Speaker 3: Pat is going to begin with a brief overview of the quarter. Venturi and Chris will provide more details on the results.
Speaker 3: Chris will also review our guidance for fiscal 2023.
Speaker 3: Afterwards, we will open the call to our analysts to ask questions.
Speaker 3: If you turn to slide 2, you will find our Safe Harbor Statement.
Speaker 3: As you may be aware, we will make some forward-looking statements during this presentation and the Q&A session. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties, as well as other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from where we are today. These risks and uncertainties and other factors were provided in our 10Q filed with Securities and Exchange Commission, as well as noted in the press release.
Speaker 3: You can find these documents on our website or at scc.gov.
Speaker 3: I'll also point out that during today's call we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures which we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. You should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. We've provided reconciliations of comparable GAAP with non-GAAP measures in the tables that accompany today's release.
Speaker 3: Pat and Terri's discussion are covered on slide 325. So with that, let me now turn it over to Pat to begin.
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Speaker 5: Thanks Deb, and welcome everyone. We're off to a solid start for the year as we continue to execute against our key strategic growth objectives. Highlights for the first quarter include double digit revenue growth across our business segments, including 13 percent organic net revenue growth. I'm especially pleased with the results in our direct-to-consumer business where Terry will provide additional details in a few minutes.
Speaker 5: We are uniquely positioned in the premium luxury wine categories that are proving resilient in this rapidly changing macroeconomic environment.
Speaker 5: Interestingly, back in the Great Recession, these wine categories, and our business in particular, demonstrated great resiliency. We were able through that time to grow both our revenue and net income.
Speaker 5: We expect as we navigate these current times, our categories, brands, and value propositions will help to differentiate us from the competition.
Speaker 5: Beyond our excellent organic growth results, we also saw strong contributions from our acquisitions.
Speaker 5: We are making progress with the integration of the acquisitions into our operations in order to capture synergies.
Speaker 5: In fact, in this quarter, ACE CIDR achieved record shipments as a result of a new canning line installed at the ACE CIDR facility in Sebastopol.
Speaker 5: This enhanced capacity enables accelerated growth for the business.
Speaker 5: We made progress in a number of areas to improve operational efficiency.
Speaker 5: despite the headwinds of ongoing cost pressures driven by increased shipping costs related to elevated gas prices.
Speaker 5: While we continue to experience ongoing supply chain constraints with closures in the timing of the last supply, the agility of our team has helped to keep production flexing to deliver to our customers.
Speaker 5: We are working to improve operations further, including more communications with trucking companies to get them to pick up products as they struggle with their schedules.
Speaker 5: As you know, we've selectively taken price to offset some of these headwinds, and we will continue to evaluate additional pricing opportunities as we progress through the year.
Speaker 5: We've recently enhanced the talent within the organization in key areas. Zach Long, who has been our Senior Vice President of Wine Making and Production, was recently promoted to the Chief Operations Officer position.
Speaker 5: Zach continues to prove that his insights, leadership, and organizational skills highly complement his depth of knowledge in winemaking.
Speaker 5: He now has full operational oversight over supply chain and all production activities.
Speaker 5: In addition, we expanded the responsibilities of Jessica Kogan, who names her Chief Growth and Experience Officer, where she will be focused on unique ways to deepen consumer affinity to drive additional gains for our businesses across the beverage alcohol category.
Speaker 5: Jessica originally joined Vintage Wine Estates in 2017 with her acquisition of Cameron Hughes a digitally native business that she co-founded.
Speaker 5: I'm proud to report we've advanced our ESG strategy with the receipt of a sustainable certification designation for all of our California state wineries and vineyards.
Speaker 5: These certifications are a reflection of our ongoing commitment to environmental stewardship and support our sustainability strategy.
Speaker 5: Speaking of the vineyards, we successfully completed this year's harvest. While California's volume was light, quality is very good, as is the quality in Oregon and Washington.
Speaker 5: With that, let me turn it over to Terry to talk more about our segment results.
Speaker 6: Terry? Perfect. Yes, thank you Pat.
Speaker 6: As Pat mentioned, we are especially pleased with the double-digit organic growth achieved in our direct-to-consumer and B2B businesses.
Speaker 6: Our direct-to-consumer business continues to demonstrate the strength of our industry-leading digital marketing strategy and customer focus as an enabler of growth.
Speaker 6: Digital innovation is a pillar of our overall growth strategy, and we will continue to leverage the power of digital technology focused on unifying the omni-channel experience for our consumers.
Speaker 6: In fact, I believe that our innovative strategy in this area is one of our strongest differentiators versus our competitors and is driving our DTC segment, which today represents almost one-third of our total business.
Speaker 6: Within this segment, we saw particularly strong growth during the quarter from our QVC and White Club channels.
Speaker 6: And despite the current inflationary cost environment and its impact on consumers, we are seeing steady hospitality and tourism trends for a business with strong foot traffic growth in our tasting rooms of almost 10%.
Speaker 6: We saw equally impressive growth from our B2B business, primarily driven by increased custom production activities, a key customer, and contributions from our Meyers acquisition.
Speaker 6: From a wholesale segment perspective, our portfolio is outperforming the U.S. wine category as we continue to focus on developing, launching, and promoting our newly acquired 8-citer line of products along with our key priority and core brands in the marketplace.
Speaker 6: During the quarter, we saw a particularly strong marketplace performance for key priority brands including Bardog, Cherry Pie, and Photograph.
Speaker 6: As Pat mentioned, our recently acquired ACIDR brand delivered record volume performance driven by ongoing category growth for this segment of the beverage alcohol market and production efficiencies achieved since acquisition.
Speaker 6: In addition, we made progress in obtaining new retail authorizations for shelf placement on key brands, the benefits of which you will see later this year.
Speaker 6: Although we had a slow start to the year from a wholesale depletion perspective driven by Layer Cake, we are progressing with our rebranding and marketing refresh initiatives for this brand. You should look forward to the results of these efforts later this year.
Speaker 6: With that, let me turn it over to Chris to talk more about first quarter results.
Speaker 6: to talk more about first quarter results. Chris?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Terry, and good afternoon, everyone. I apologize. I feel fine, but I've lost my voice. So I appreciate your patience as I may have to pause to soothe my throat as we go through.
Speaker 2: Turning to slide six, you'll see additional segment discussion.
Speaker 2: Revenue grew 40% or $22 million in the quarter, which included $14.9 million of acquired revenue.
Speaker 2: As Terry mentioned, we had very strong growth in our direct-to-consumer segment with revenue up 37% in the quarter to $20.5 million.
Speaker 2: This was the result of strong organic growth of 13% and $3.1 million of acquired revenue.
Speaker 2: You will find in the supplemental slides that we have a table that provides our acquired revenues by quarter.
Speaker 2: Next, onto our B2B business, where 39% revenue growth was driven by increased private label and custom production activities.
Speaker 2: while the Meyers acquisition contributed $4.9 million in the quarter.
Speaker 2: Within our wholesale business revenue increased 44% to $23.4 million including $6.9 million of acquired revenues from a CIDR.
Speaker 2: which is a high-volume business that is performing extremely well in the marketplace.
Speaker 2: If you turn to slide 7, you will see that Q1 gross profit increased resulting from strong revenue growth across all business segments.
Speaker 2: While Q1 gross margin was 38.7% versus 42.1% in the prior year due to increased overhead absorption.
Speaker 7: Looking to slide 8.
Speaker 2: Our SG&A results reflect 4 million in acquisition-related SG&A.
Speaker 2: plus $4.6 million from the issuance of stock-based compensation that was not included in last year's first quarter.
Speaker 2: In addition, we experienced headwinds from increased free costs and investments made to add talent in key areas of the organization.
Speaker 2: I'll provide additional details around FY23 SG&A guidance in a minute.
Speaker 7: Turning to slide 9, I will touch on adjusted adjusted EBIT adjusted EBIT. The change primarily primarily primarily was the result of the cost of revenues inclusive of overhead and increased SG&A offset some by favorable product mix.
Speaker 7: Moving on, given our acquisitive profile, we believe adjusted net income presents a more accurate reflection of our normalized performance.
Speaker 7: On that basis, adjusted non-GAAP cash net income for Q1 was $2.7 million or $0.05 per diluted share.
Speaker 7: Slide 10 provides an understanding of our capital structure.
Speaker 7: We have a strong balance sheet and the financial flexibility to continue to invest in our growth strategy.
Speaker 7: We expect our CapEx and Fiscal 23 will be about 12 to 15 million.
Speaker 7: of which about 3 million is related to maintenance care packs.
Speaker 7: The remainder is focused on capturing synergies, improving productivity, and capacity expansion to support growth. For example, nendor daemon core, the power inequities of bells and bells, such as the
Speaker 7: As you can see on slide 11, we are reaffirming our Fiscal 23 guidance for net revenue, which we expect to be in the $300 to $310 million range. This includes an incremental $20 to $22 million from Fiscal 2022 acquisitions.
Speaker 7: We have revised suggested EBITDA to be in the $50 to $60 million range, primarily driven by higher SG&A expenses than originally planned.
Speaker 7: We believe that Q1-FG&A spend was an anomaly at an elevated level.
Speaker 7: And while we plan to continue to invest in the business throughout the remainder of the year, we expect FY23 SG&A expenses to be in the range of $115 to $120 million.
Speaker 7: With that, let me turn it back to Pat to wrap up on slide 12.
Speaker 5: Thanks, Chris. In summary, Vintage Wine Estates is evolving as a public company, but it's a better position than ever to deliver value. While we have some work to do, we are focused on executing a strategy that delivers industry leading growth and enhanced profitability. I'd like to thank the BWE team for their unrelenting commitment to our vision of being a leader in the U.S. wine industry.
Speaker 5: With that, we can open the call to questions.
Speaker 2: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2.
Speaker 2: We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue.
Speaker 2: The first question is from Vivian Ezer from Cowen. Please go ahead....
Speaker 8: Hi, good evening.
Speaker 8: Hi Vivian. Hi. So I wanted to double back on the SG&A commentary that was just offered.
Speaker 8: I do appreciate the full year guidance. It does suggest quite a normalization for the remainder of the year. But just looking at the quarterly cadence, who's now in the second quarter in a row, where SG&A spend has been over $30 million. And I'm just curious, what gives you confidence that the spend this quarter is transitory and squeeze-
Speaker 7: Like what was really driving the year of your growth in that? Thanks. Sure, so in Q1 we had some atypical expense that was related to our captive insurance and our acquisitions. And that was driving higher than expected costs.
Speaker 8: But the acquisition-related costs wouldn't flow through to another quarter or two.
Speaker 7: No, they were one time in nature.
Speaker 8: Okay, fair enough, fair enough. So, Terry, just wanted to touch on some of the trends that you guys are seeing in your tasting room. You know, obviously on the last call we were coming out of a pretty tough summer, so it's encouraging to hear that you had close to double-digit growth year over year. Has anything changed? Did you guys lean into more consumer engagement to drive that traffic? Do you just feel like consumer trends are normalizing?
Speaker 6: a lot of technology improvements, a lot of outreach that's going on through our tasting room. So if you go back before the pandemic, I think we prepared three years in advance to enabling our tasting rooms to really maximize on that consumer engagement, capturing information. So when the pandemic hit, we pivoted almost the tasting rooms into call centers, and that's paid off for us. Those customers have stayed engaged. They're coming back.
Speaker 6: We've got great experiences you can go to, whether it be CUND on a hilltop or over to Clopagas. We've really just continued with that customer engagement and we're benefiting from that. So we're thrilled with that.
Speaker 8: Absolutely. And Pat, last one for you. I really appreciate the commentary around the resiliency of the category and kind of referencing back to the great recession. Just thinking ahead to next quarter, O&D obviously very, very important for you guys, but the alcohol industry more broadly. Are you guys preparing yourselves for trade down? How are you thinking about the consumer heading into the key holiday selling season? Thanks.
Speaker 5: So we're actually expecting there will be some trade down, but more the trade down will be into the price points that we kind of are in. The vast majority of our business is in that $12.99 to $25 a bottle. We think that category stays pretty well. The people at the lower end don't trade down to below $10. Yet, many of the people in the $50 category will trade down to $25. At that time, we a lot of people looked WHAT THEilt Cre Mitch
Speaker 5: We were a benefit of that and we continue to believe that the overall trends in that category will continue to see some growth and will benefit. More of the prevailing headwinds that we might see are also in some of the things with labor issues related to FedEx and UPS and wanting to throttle the amount of deliveries that you can make in November and December with some surcharges. So we're going to work our way through that and we're excited about it.
Speaker 5: the revenue trends both in wholesale for this quarter and in the direct-to-consumer.
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly, and nice start to the year. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: The next question is from Mike Baker from DA Davidson. Please go ahead.
Speaker 9: Okay, thanks. So a couple. One, I think usually the first quarter is about 20% of sales. It seems like it will be more this quarter or I guess what I'm getting at is, you know, it seems like first quarter sales were much better than expected, yet you maintain the full year guidance. My assumption is that sort of just being conservative a little early in the year to start raising guidance in this environment, but I guess I'd be curious, your comments as to, you know, why the big beat and.
Speaker 9: yet you're not raising, again, is it just simply too early to raise.
Speaker 5: Well, I think one, it is too early to raise. Two, there's also the part, like the ACE hard cider actually, that's a pretty big quarter for them. So that acquisition, we'll see that, you know, that'll trail down a little bit over the next few quarters. And we'll pick up more in the final quarter of the year for us. So I think it's a combination of those two things. And we're still not sure because of the political landscape and with the interest environment where things are going to go totally. But, you know, we're comfortable with the guidance we've given.
Speaker 5: If there's an opportunity to raise it, we'd certainly like to do that at the end of the next quarter.
Speaker 9: Is it fair to say the first quarter was ahead of your plan? I guess it was ahead of our estimates but my estimates at least.
Speaker 9: because we didn't have that seasonality perhaps exactly right on ace but you know how did the first quarter come in on the top line relative to your internal plans?
Speaker 5: A little bit ahead, but not really ahead.
Speaker 10: So, okay.
Speaker 9: Okay, second thing I wanted to ask, just about acquisitions.
Speaker 9: you know, a big part of the story of course in the past and you're integrating a bunch now but your leverage I think is up to about 5.8 times on a gross basis, maybe a little north of five on a net basis.
Speaker 9: Does that cause you to slow down investments and you know maybe preserve some cash?
Speaker 5: Well, I think as we look at the macro economic trends right now, if we make any acquisitions, they're only going to be right down the middle of the fairway. They're going to be things that are very, very strong operating businesses that are strategically very fit for us, really right in the middle of the wine category. We do intend to continue to pay debt down as we have. We think that from an interest rate environment, we're very well covered with our swaps and interest rates.
Speaker 5: while we see the market going up, the market with the banks tightening on credit and some of the things that make them may create some interesting acquisition opportunities as they
Speaker 9: Okay, good enough. I'll turn it over to someone else. Thank you.
Speaker 2: The next question is from Luke Hannon from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Speaker 9: So just working a little bit backwards here. So, you know, the S and A guy between 115 to 120M, if we assume, let's say 25M of that is going to be depreciation and amortization that will be added back and sort of working backwards from that. It implies that for the year to get to your EBITDA guidance, you'll have to do somewhere in the low 40s, I would say for a gross margin. So just working a little bit backwards here. So just working a little bit backwards here.
Speaker 11: Correct. Correct.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we expect there's going to be continued synergies that we're going to look at and opportunities for some of those things. And to the extent that we have other opportunities to cut costs, we'll do that. But I think the gross margin trends, somewhere in the 38% to low 40s is where it's going to need
Speaker 9: Okay, and then my second question is just on the, there was commentary in the press release about B2B case volumes not necessarily being indicative of underlying performance. I was curious to know one, why exactly is that the case and two, what is, I mean, what are, what are really the key drivers for that business, I guess, going forward?
Speaker 5: I believe what you're talking about is the depletions. Because we've got different sizes and different average case rates on the hard cider business versus the wine business, we have the acquisition of Meyers, which has no case volume associated with it, and other parts of our B2B business, and then the things associated with hospitality and the direct-to-consumer that are also revenue-driving but not case-specific.
Speaker 5: We just felt that there's more confusion with that number in terms of the depletion analysis or average cases, average sales volume per case, that we felt that other indicators were better, better indications of the strength of the business. This is very, very complex.
Speaker 11: Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Speaker 2: As a reminder, it is star one to ask a question.
Speaker 2: The next question is from Joseph Feldman from TLC Group. Please go ahead.
Speaker 12: Hi, good evening guys. Sarang Vora for Joe Feldman. You know, organic growth continuing on the prior question, you know, in the volumes, you look at organic growth was up about 13%. Can you help us, you know, how much was the pricing and how much was the volume from that standpoint?
Speaker 12: Hi, good evening. I'm Sarang Wora for Joe Feldman. You know, organic growth continuing on the prior question, you know, in the volumes, you look at organic growth was up about 13%. Can you help us, you know, how much was the pricing and how much was the volume from that standpoint of 13%?
Speaker 7: So we really saw strong growth in our B2B segment. That was really a key contributor as well as in our D2C segment.
Speaker 7: with some of our television sales.
Speaker 7: So while there's some pricing, sorry.
Speaker 7: While there's some pricing impact, the state volume is a main contributor.
Speaker 12: Okay, that's great. And you know, inventory seems to be down year over year by about 10 and a half percent. files…
Speaker 12: any color you can share why you know you had a very strong sales growth is that why or there's any specific reason why it would be down year over year.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry I missed the beginning of your question there.
Speaker 12: inventory seems to be down year over year.
Speaker 12: So just curious to know if you can share any color on that.
Speaker 5: Inventory is down here over here. Is that what the question was? Yes. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 7: So I think just rolling it forward from year end where we took a significant charge that's what's indicative of the change. We still have harvest and all of those trends are coming in as expected.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 12: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: The next question is a follow-up from Lou Cannon from Cannon Co. Ordinuity. Please go ahead.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks. Just one follow-up question for me. There was also a comment in the press release about an amendment to your covenants. Just curious if you can give a little bit more detail on what exactly was amended, maybe what those new definitions are for those certain covenants. Any more detail there would be helpful.
Speaker 7: We amended the definition of how we're calculating our financial covenant around the definition of adjusted EBLA.
Speaker 9: Okay, is there and what exactly I guess has changed there though.
Speaker 7: I don't think we've gone into those level of details on the covenant previously.
Speaker 14: Excuse me.
Speaker 9: Okay, is it I mean, broadly speaking, though, can you say is it more favorable to you guys now than it was maybe a quarter or two ago?
Speaker 7: That's accurate, correct.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay I'll leave it there. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Thank you.
Speaker 2: This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Pat Rooney for any closing remarks.
Speaker 5: Again, thank you everybody for taking the time to get on the call and hearing a little bit more about the New York State.
Speaker 5: We appreciate your time and look forward to talking to you again in the very near future. And don't know what your plans are tonight, but having a nice bottle of Candice Chardonnay or Gerard Sauvignon Blanc or Clove of Gasp, you know, or an ace hard cider would be a great thing to do tonight.
Speaker 5: Thanks for your time.
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