Q3 2022 Journey Medical Corp Earnings Call
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Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Good afternoon, and welcome to Journey Medical's Q3 2022 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Participants of this call are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live over the internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. A webcast replay of the call will be available approximately 1 hour after the end of the call for approximately 30 days.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Good afternoon, and welcome to Journey Medical's Q3 2022 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Participants of this call are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live over the internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. A webcast replay of the call will be available approximately 1 hour after the end of the call for approximately 30 days.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by good afternoon, and welcome to the journey Medicals third quarter 2022 financial results and corporate update conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode should you need assistance. Please signal a conference specialist by press.
The Star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions to ask a question. You May Press Star then one on your telephone keypad to withdraw your question. Please press Star then two.
Participants of this call are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live over the Internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. A webcast replay of the call will be available approximately one hour. After the end of the call for approximately 30 days I would now like to turn the conference.
Operator: I would now like to turn the conference call over to Matt Blazei of CoreIR, the company's investor relations firm. Please go ahead.
Operator: I would now like to turn the conference call over to Matt Blazei of CoreIR, the company's investor relations firm. Please go ahead.
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Matt Blazei: Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in today's conference call. Joining me from Journey Medical Corporation's leadership team are Claude Maraoui, Co-founder, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Ernest De Paolantonio, Chief Financial Officer, Ramsey Alloush, General Counsel, and Dr. Srinivas Sidgiddi, VP of Clinical Development and Medical Affairs, who will be joining us for the Q&A session. During this call, management will be making forward-looking statements, including statements that address Journey Medical's expectations for future performance or operational results. Forward-looking statements involve risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. For more information about these risks, please refer to the risk factors described in Journey Medical's most recently filed periodic reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, the Form 8-K filed with the SEC today, and the company's press release that accompanies this call, particularly the cautionary statements in it.
Matt Blazei: Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in today's conference call. Joining me from Journey Medical Corporation's leadership team are Claude Maraoui, Co-founder, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Ernest De Paolantonio, Chief Financial Officer, Ramsey Alloush, General Counsel, and Dr. Srinivas Sidgiddi, VP of Clinical Development and Medical Affairs, who will be joining us for the Q&A session. During this call, management will be making forward-looking statements, including statements that address Journey Medical's expectations for future performance or operational results. Forward-looking statements involve risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. For more information about these risks, please refer to the risk factors described in Journey Medical's most recently filed periodic reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, the Form 8-K filed with the SEC today, and the company's press release that accompanies this call, particularly the cautionary statements in it.
Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in today's conference call. Joining me from journey Medical Corporation's leadership team, our Quad Murali co founder President and Chief Executive Officer, Ernie detail Antonio Chief Financial Officer, Ramzi Loose General Counsel and Dr. Sweeney said giddy VP of clinical development and medical Affairs.
Joining us for the Q&A session.
This call management will be making forward looking statements, including statements that address journey medicals expectations for future performance or operational results forward looking statements involve risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements for more information about these risks. Please refer to the risk factors described journey vehicles.
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Matt Blazei: Today's conference call includes non-GAAP financial measures that Journey Medical believes can be useful in evaluating its performance. You should not consider this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For a reconciliation of this non-GAAP financial measure to net loss, its most directly comparable GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release. The content of this call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, 10 November 2022. Except as required by law, Journey Medical disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Claude Maraoui, Co-founder, President, and Chief Executive Officer of Journey Medical. Thank you.
Matt Blazei: Today's conference call includes non-GAAP financial measures that Journey Medical believes can be useful in evaluating its performance. You should not consider this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For a reconciliation of this non-GAAP financial measure to net loss, its most directly comparable GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release. The content of this call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, 10 November 2022. Except as required by law, Journey Medical disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Claude Maraoui, Co-founder, President, and Chief Executive Officer of Journey Medical. Thank you.
Today's conference call includes non-GAAP financial measures that journey medical believes can be useful in evaluating its performance you should not consider this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP.
Reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measure to net loss its most directly comparable GAAP financial measure. Please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release.
The content of this call contains time sensitive information that is accurate only as of today November 10, 2022, except as required by law journey medical disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur. After this call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Quad Murali cofounder rather.
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Claude Maraoui: Thanks, Matt. Good afternoon, and thanks to everyone for joining our Q3 2022 conference call. While Q3 financial results did not meet our expectations, we continue to report record revenues for the 9 months ended 30 September 2022 of $57.7 million, which is 26% greater than revenues for the 9 months ended of the prior year of $45.1 million. Q3 revenue was $16.1 million, which was $3.5 million less than the Q3 of 2021. In addition to the macroeconomic challenges faced by our sector, which limited our growth in the Q3, Targadox revenue for the quarter was $4 million less when compared against Q3 of the prior year, reflecting the continued impact of generic competition for the brand.
Claude Maraoui: Thanks, Matt. Good afternoon, and thanks to everyone for joining our Q3 2022 conference call. While Q3 financial results did not meet our expectations, we continue to report record revenues for the 9 months ended 30 September 2022 of $57.7 million, which is 26% greater than revenues for the 9 months ended of the prior year of $45.1 million. Q3 revenue was $16.1 million, which was $3.5 million less than the Q3 of 2021. In addition to the macroeconomic challenges faced by our sector, which limited our growth in the Q3, Targadox revenue for the quarter was $4 million less when compared against Q3 of the prior year, reflecting the continued impact of generic competition for the brand.
Thanks, Matt Good afternoon, and thanks to everyone for joining our third quarter 2022 conference call.
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Claude Maraoui: However, this shortfall was partially offset by an increase in Accutane revenue of $0.6 million or a 17% increase versus Q3 of the prior year. Our flagship products, QBREXZA and Accutane, along with the contributions of our newly launched products, Amzeeq and ZILXI, represented $44.4 million or 81% of our year-to-date revenue. On the product development front, we are pleased to have enrolled 75% of patients throughout the US and Europe in our two Phase III clinical studies, MVOR-1 and MVOR-2, for our DFD-29 product candidate that is being evaluated for the treatment of papulopustular rosacea in adults. We anticipate completing enrollment by year's end and expect to announce top-line data from the clinical trials in H1 2023, with an expected NDA filing in H2 2023.
Claude Maraoui: However, this shortfall was partially offset by an increase in Accutane revenue of $0.6 million or a 17% increase versus Q3 of the prior year. Our flagship products, QBREXZA and Accutane, along with the contributions of our newly launched products, Amzeeq and ZILXI, represented $44.4 million or 81% of our year-to-date revenue. On the product development front, we are pleased to have enrolled 75% of patients throughout the US and Europe in our two Phase III clinical studies, MVOR-1 and MVOR-2, for our DFD-29 product candidate that is being evaluated for the treatment of papulopustular rosacea in adults. We anticipate completing enrollment by year's end and expect to announce top-line data from the clinical trials in H1 2023, with an expected NDA filing in H2 2023.
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Claude Maraoui: To reiterate, the market opportunity for the DFD-29 is significant. With an estimated 16 million people in the United States suffering from rosacea, this equates to an estimated $1 billion-plus in prescription sales in 2021, according to Symphony data. The phase 2 clinical trial results for DFD-29 demonstrated nearly double the efficacy over Oracea, the current market leader in standard of care, with respect to both co-primary endpoints in the study, which were one, reduction in total inflammatory lesion count, and two, IGA success. Oracea had approximately $340 million in prescription sales in 2021, according to Symphony data. Once approved and launched in 2024, we believe that DFD-29 will be able to achieve net sales in excess of $100 million annually, providing meaningful revenue contribution for the company.
Claude Maraoui: To reiterate, the market opportunity for the DFD-29 is significant. With an estimated 16 million people in the United States suffering from rosacea, this equates to an estimated $1 billion-plus in prescription sales in 2021, according to Symphony data. The phase 2 clinical trial results for DFD-29 demonstrated nearly double the efficacy over Oracea, the current market leader in standard of care, with respect to both co-primary endpoints in the study, which were one, reduction in total inflammatory lesion count, and two, IGA success. Oracea had approximately $340 million in prescription sales in 2021, according to Symphony data. Once approved and launched in 2024, we believe that DFD-29 will be able to achieve net sales in excess of $100 million annually, providing meaningful revenue contribution for the company.
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Claude Maraoui: To provide context of the expected revenue contribution of DFD-29, our total revenue for fiscal year 2021 was $63.1 million. We believe that the commercial opportunity for DFD-29 and the near-term launch of our anti-itch product, together with our robust portfolio of prescription dermatology products, positions Journey Medical for continued growth in the future. Further strengthening our ability to achieve continued growth and expanding our runway to do so are our successful three Paragraph IV litigation settlements with Padagis, which resulted in the following: QBREXZA with an entry date no earlier than 15 August 2030, Amzeeq with an entry date no earlier than 1 July 2031, and ZILXI with an entry date no earlier than 1 April 2027.
Claude Maraoui: To provide context of the expected revenue contribution of DFD-29, our total revenue for fiscal year 2021 was $63.1 million. We believe that the commercial opportunity for DFD-29 and the near-term launch of our anti-itch product, together with our robust portfolio of prescription dermatology products, positions Journey Medical for continued growth in the future. Further strengthening our ability to achieve continued growth and expanding our runway to do so are our successful three Paragraph IV litigation settlements with Padagis, which resulted in the following: QBREXZA with an entry date no earlier than 15 August 2030, Amzeeq with an entry date no earlier than 1 July 2031, and ZILXI with an entry date no earlier than 1 April 2027.
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Claude Maraoui: With the continued expected growth of our newly launched products, the expected launch of our anti-itch product and our ability to maximize internal efficiencies, we expect our commercial operations to return to profitability. Our strategic focus on the continued expansion of our product portfolio through in-licensing, acquisition, and developing novel dermatology products and future product candidates combined with our industry-leading sales force, continues to be the cornerstone of our future growth. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Ernest De Paolantonio, our CFO, who will review our financial results for Q3.
Claude Maraoui: With the continued expected growth of our newly launched products, the expected launch of our anti-itch product and our ability to maximize internal efficiencies, we expect our commercial operations to return to profitability. Our strategic focus on the continued expansion of our product portfolio through in-licensing, acquisition, and developing novel dermatology products and future product candidates combined with our industry-leading sales force, continues to be the cornerstone of our future growth. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Ernest De Paolantonio, our CFO, who will review our financial results for Q3.
With the continued expected growth of our newly launched products and the expected launch of our anti itch product and our ability to maximize internal efficiencies.
We expect our commercial operations to return to profitability.
Our strategic focus on the continued expansion of our product portfolio through in licensing acquisition and developing novel dermatology products and future product candidates combined with our industry, leading sales force continues to be the cornerstone of our future growth.
With that I'll now turn the call over to Ernie de Paolantonio, Our CFO , who will review our financial results for the third quarter.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Thanks, Claude, and hello, everyone. I will now review the Q3 financial results. Total revenue was $16.1 million for the three-month period ended 30 September 2022. A decrease of $3.5 million from $19.6 million for the three-month period ended 30 September 2021. The decrease is primarily driven by a $4 million reduction due to generic competition of Targadox that was partially offset by an increase in Accutane revenue of $0.6 million versus the same period in 2021. Other incremental product revenue of $1.7 million versus 2021 during the three-month period ended 30 September 2022 was driven by our newly acquired and launched products, Amzeeq and ZILXI.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Thanks, Claude, and hello, everyone. I will now review the Q3 financial results. Total revenue was $16.1 million for the three-month period ended 30 September 2022. A decrease of $3.5 million from $19.6 million for the three-month period ended 30 September 2021. The decrease is primarily driven by a $4 million reduction due to generic competition of Targadox that was partially offset by an increase in Accutane revenue of $0.6 million versus the same period in 2021. Other incremental product revenue of $1.7 million versus 2021 during the three-month period ended 30 September 2022 was driven by our newly acquired and launched products, Amzeeq and ZILXI.
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Ernest De Paolantonio: Cost of goods sold decreased by $3.9 million or 35% to $7.2 million for Q3 2022 from $11.2 million for Q3 2021. The decrease in cost of goods sold was primarily due to a $2.1 million decrease in QBREXZA royalties as a result of a contractual royalty rate reduction of 10 percentage points that occurred in May 2022. Also contributing to the reduction in royalty expense was the lower Targadox revenue as a result of generic competition. In addition, the three-month period ended 30 September 2021 included an inventory step-up of $3 million for inventory units sold related to the acquired finished goods of QBREXZA from Dermira in 2021.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Cost of goods sold decreased by $3.9 million or 35% to $7.2 million for Q3 2022 from $11.2 million for Q3 2021. The decrease in cost of goods sold was primarily due to a $2.1 million decrease in QBREXZA royalties as a result of a contractual royalty rate reduction of 10 percentage points that occurred in May 2022. Also contributing to the reduction in royalty expense was the lower Targadox revenue as a result of generic competition. In addition, the three-month period ended 30 September 2021 included an inventory step-up of $3 million for inventory units sold related to the acquired finished goods of QBREXZA from Dermira in 2021.
Cost of goods sold decreased by $3 9 million or 35% to $7 2 million for the third quarter of 2022 from $11 2 million for the third quarter of 2021.
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Ernest De Paolantonio: The decrease in cost of goods sold were slightly offset by higher freight charges and additional testing costs of approximately $1 million as a result of our newly acquired and launched products, Amzeeq and ZILXI, and an increase in cost of goods sold related to higher non-cash amortization of licenses of approximately $0.4 million. Research and development expenses increased to $2.8 million for the three-month period ended 30 September 2022 from $0.7 million for the same period of the prior year. The increase is primarily related to additional clinical trial expenses related to the development of our DFD-29 product candidate, for which dosing began in March 2022. Total R&D expenses reflect the additional enrollment of patients in the two Phase III trials, MVOR-1 and MVOR-2, as well as other associated costs of the development program.
Ernest De Paolantonio: The decrease in cost of goods sold were slightly offset by higher freight charges and additional testing costs of approximately $1 million as a result of our newly acquired and launched products, Amzeeq and ZILXI, and an increase in cost of goods sold related to higher non-cash amortization of licenses of approximately $0.4 million. Research and development expenses increased to $2.8 million for the three-month period ended 30 September 2022 from $0.7 million for the same period of the prior year. The increase is primarily related to additional clinical trial expenses related to the development of our DFD-29 product candidate, for which dosing began in March 2022. Total R&D expenses reflect the additional enrollment of patients in the two Phase III trials, MVOR-1 and MVOR-2, as well as other associated costs of the development program.
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Ernest De Paolantonio: Selling, general and administrative expenses were $15.6 million for Q3 2022 compared to $10.8 million for Q3 2021, with the increase primarily resulted from the expansion of our sales force, product samples, marketing expenses related to the expanded portfolio of four products, Accutane, QBREXZA, Amzeeq, and ZILXI, and professional fees associated with being a public company. Net loss attributable to common shareholders was $10.1 million or $0.57 per share, basic and diluted, for Q3 2022, compared to a net loss attributable to common shareholders of $10.6 million or $1.16 per share, basic and diluted, for Q3 2021.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Selling, general and administrative expenses were $15.6 million for Q3 2022 compared to $10.8 million for Q3 2021, with the increase primarily resulted from the expansion of our sales force, product samples, marketing expenses related to the expanded portfolio of four products, Accutane, QBREXZA, Amzeeq, and ZILXI, and professional fees associated with being a public company. Net loss attributable to common shareholders was $10.1 million or $0.57 per share, basic and diluted, for Q3 2022, compared to a net loss attributable to common shareholders of $10.6 million or $1.16 per share, basic and diluted, for Q3 2021.
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Ernest De Paolantonio: Our non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA for Q3 2022, after adjusting for R&D expenses related to DFD-29, resulted in a net loss of $4 million or $0.23 per share, basic and diluted. Versus a net profit of $1.3 million or $0.14 per share basic and $0.12 per share diluted. At 30 September, we had $34.9 million in cash and cash equivalents as compared to $49.1 million at 31 December 2021. Finally, an update to the cryptocurrency breach that resulted in losses of $9.5 million in September 2021. The federal government has been able to seize a significant amount of cryptocurrency associated with the breach. Once the cryptocurrency has been converted back into US dollars, Journey Medical will receive a notification letter to initiate the return of cash to the company.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Our non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA for Q3 2022, after adjusting for R&D expenses related to DFD-29, resulted in a net loss of $4 million or $0.23 per share, basic and diluted. Versus a net profit of $1.3 million or $0.14 per share basic and $0.12 per share diluted. At 30 September, we had $34.9 million in cash and cash equivalents as compared to $49.1 million at 31 December 2021. Finally, an update to the cryptocurrency breach that resulted in losses of $9.5 million in September 2021. The federal government has been able to seize a significant amount of cryptocurrency associated with the breach. Once the cryptocurrency has been converted back into US dollars, Journey Medical will receive a notification letter to initiate the return of cash to the company.
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The federal government has been able to seize this significant amount of crypto currency associated with the breach once the crypto currency has been converted back into U S. Dollars journey medical will receive a notification letter to initiate the return of cash to the company.
Ernest De Paolantonio: The process could take as long as 6 months or more to complete. With that, I'll turn it back to Claude.
Ernest De Paolantonio: The process could take as long as 6 months or more to complete. With that, I'll turn it back to Claude.
The process could take as long as six months or more to complete.
And with that I'll turn it back to Claude.
Claude Maraoui: Thank you, Ernie. Our strategy with our product portfolio expansion has been designed to pivot during the lifecycle challenges that we have faced over the last few quarters with Targadox, and we remain optimistic about the future performance of our newly launched products heading into 2023. We are also excited about completing enrollment for both Phase III clinical trials for DFD-29 this calendar year and the launch of another prescription product to add to our portfolio. With a strong financial foundation and continued momentum with our new products, we expect to achieve another year of record revenues in 2022. I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Thank you.
Claude Maraoui: Thank you, Ernie. Our strategy with our product portfolio expansion has been designed to pivot during the lifecycle challenges that we have faced over the last few quarters with Targadox, and we remain optimistic about the future performance of our newly launched products heading into 2023. We are also excited about completing enrollment for both Phase III clinical trials for DFD-29 this calendar year and the launch of another prescription product to add to our portfolio. With a strong financial foundation and continued momentum with our new products, we expect to achieve another year of record revenues in 2022. I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Thank you.
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2023.
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To achieve another year of record revenues in 2022.
I'll now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Thank you.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question on today's call, you will need to press star, then the number one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you would wish to withdraw your request, you may do so by pressing the pound key. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before entering your request and speaking on the call. One moment please for the first question. Our first question comes from Scott Henry with Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question on today's call, you will need to press star, then the number one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you would wish to withdraw your request, you may do so by pressing the pound key. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before entering your request and speaking on the call. One moment please for the first question. Our first question comes from Scott Henry with Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question on today's call you will need to press Star then the number one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you would wish to withdraw your request you may do so by pressing the pound key.
If you are using a speakerphone. Please pick up your handset before entering your request and speaking on the call. One moment. Please for the first question.
Okay.
Our first question comes from Scott Henry with Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Scott Henry: Thank you and good afternoon. You know, I thought the results were kind of within expectations, but sort of at the low end. I guess the question is, you know, since you're tracking at the low end, granted it may be a macro environment issue, do you make some adjustments? I mean, because you've added so much to the sales force and you're not necessarily getting the return that you thought you'd get from that investment. You know, sometimes you got to make adjustments as it plays out. What are your thoughts on that?
Scott Henry: Thank you and good afternoon. You know, I thought the results were kind of within expectations, but sort of at the low end. I guess the question is, you know, since you're tracking at the low end, granted it may be a macro environment issue, do you make some adjustments? I mean, because you've added so much to the sales force and you're not necessarily getting the return that you thought you'd get from that investment. You know, sometimes you got to make adjustments as it plays out. What are your thoughts on that?
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Sometimes you've got to make adjustments as it plays out what are your thoughts on that.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. Hi, Scott. This is Claude. I'll take that one. Yeah, our Q3 revenue at $16.1 million was on the lower side. I think as we enter Q4, I think we're ramping things up here. That's a positive. We've already taken care of October. You know, we are looking at various number of ways to, you know, cause efficiencies throughout the whole organization, from marketing expenses to operating expenses, and so forth. You know, our plan is to grow our prescription base. You know, our commercial team certainly has the ability and capability to do that. You know, we expect good things coming up here. We'll look at everything, and we'll take many things into consideration.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. Hi, Scott. This is Claude. I'll take that one. Yeah, our Q3 revenue at $16.1 million was on the lower side. I think as we enter Q4, I think we're ramping things up here. That's a positive. We've already taken care of October. You know, we are looking at various number of ways to, you know, cause efficiencies throughout the whole organization, from marketing expenses to operating expenses, and so forth. You know, our plan is to grow our prescription base. You know, our commercial team certainly has the ability and capability to do that. You know, we expect good things coming up here. We'll look at everything, and we'll take many things into consideration.
Yes, Hi, Scott This is Claude I'll I'll take that one.
So, yes, our third quarter revenue.
$16 one.
Was on the lower side.
I think as we enter Q4, I think we're ramping things up here.
So that's a positive we've already taken care of October and we.
We are looking at various number of ways to cause efficiencies throughout the whole organization.
From marketing expenses.
To operating expenses and so forth but.
Our plan is to grow our prescription base.
Our commercial team certainly has the ability and capability to do that and.
We expect good things coming up here. So we'll look at everything and we will take many things into consideration.
Scott Henry: Okay. Fair enough. Now, if I heard you, do you feel pretty confident that there will be sequential growth from Q3 of this year to Q4?
Scott Henry: Okay. Fair enough. Now, if I heard you, do you feel pretty confident that there will be sequential growth from Q3 of this year to Q4?
Okay.
Sir fair enough now if I heard you you feel pretty confident that there will be sequential growth from Q3 of this year to Q4.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. We haven't, as you know, and I know I get this question repeatedly. We just haven't given any guidance yet. Like I did say, I think we're off to a better start to Q4 than we did in Q3. That's certainly pointing in the right direction. I think you know, the trends are looking better. We'll see where we end up at the end of the quarter. You know, we've launched now four assets within the last 15 to 16 months or so, and we're starting to get a good understanding of the landscape.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. We haven't, as you know, and I know I get this question repeatedly. We just haven't given any guidance yet. Like I did say, I think we're off to a better start to Q4 than we did in Q3. That's certainly pointing in the right direction. I think you know, the trends are looking better. We'll see where we end up at the end of the quarter. You know, we've launched now four assets within the last 15 to 16 months or so, and we're starting to get a good understanding of the landscape.
No we haven't.
And I know I get this question repeatedly we just haven't.
Given any guidance yet.
Like I did say I think we're off to a.
Better start to Q4 than we did in Q3, so thats certainly pointing in the right direction.
And I think.
The trends are looking better so we'll see where we ended up at the end of the quarter, We've launched now.
Four assets within the last 15, 16 months or so and we're starting to get a good understanding of the landscape.
Claude Maraoui: Some of the products such as Amzeeq and ZILXI, not only are we picking those assets up at a much lower rate than we had anticipated to originally, but they are also having competition, new competition enter the marketplace. Again, I think the commercial marketing and sales organization is doing a good job getting traction. We're seeing some good growth out of those now, and we'll see how the year-end goes.
Claude Maraoui: Some of the products such as Amzeeq and ZILXI, not only are we picking those assets up at a much lower rate than we had anticipated to originally, but they are also having competition, new competition enter the marketplace. Again, I think the commercial marketing and sales organization is doing a good job getting traction. We're seeing some good growth out of those now, and we'll see how the year-end goes.
Some of the products such as <unk> see not only are we picking those assets up at a much lower rate than we had anticipated to originally but they are also having competition new competition enter the marketplace.
So again I think the commercial marketing and sales organization is doing a good job getting traction we're seeing some good growth out of those now and we'll see how the year end goes.
Scott Henry: Okay. Just on one specific product. I know that, you know, Accutane, yes, it was up over last Q3, but it was down sequentially. How do you think about that product? I mean, it's been a great brand regardless. Do you think, you know, we're kind of at the plateau where we're just looking to match, I guess, in that $4 to 5 million range, or do you think there's room for growth from here? Or is it even $4 million? Maybe that's a big number per quarter.
Scott Henry: Okay. Just on one specific product. I know that, you know, Accutane, yes, it was up over last Q3, but it was down sequentially. How do you think about that product? I mean, it's been a great brand regardless. Do you think, you know, we're kind of at the plateau where we're just looking to match, I guess, in that $4 to 5 million range, or do you think there's room for growth from here? Or is it even $4 million? Maybe that's a big number per quarter.
Okay.
One specific product they know that yeah accutane.
Yes, it was up over last third quarter, but it was down sequentially.
How do you think about that product I mean, it's been a great brand, regardless, but do you think we're kind of at the plateau, where we're just looking to match.
I guess in that $4 million to $5 million range or do you think there's room for growth from here.
Or is it or is even 4 million, maybe that's a big number per quarter.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. I mean, as I look historically, right, it's relatively a new product. We've been averaging, like you said, in Q1 we did about $4.9 million. Q2 this year, we did about $5.2 million. In Q3, the isotretinoin market was down. We still held our market share at about 11.2%. Revenues for Accutane came in about $4.1+ million for the quarter. You know, the run rate's looking close to $19 to 20 million for the year, and we're at 11% market share. Do we see more opportunity as we move forward into 2023? The answer is absolutely. We have gone from 7th position entering the marketplace, in first position when we started out with zero prescriptions.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. I mean, as I look historically, right, it's relatively a new product. We've been averaging, like you said, in Q1 we did about $4.9 million. Q2 this year, we did about $5.2 million. In Q3, the isotretinoin market was down. We still held our market share at about 11.2%. Revenues for Accutane came in about $4.1+ million for the quarter. You know, the run rate's looking close to $19 to 20 million for the year, and we're at 11% market share. Do we see more opportunity as we move forward into 2023? The answer is absolutely. We have gone from 7th position entering the marketplace, in first position when we started out with zero prescriptions.
Yeah, I mean as I look historically right, it's relatively a new product we've been averaging like you said first quarter. We did about 4.92nd quarter. This year, we did about 5.2 and in Q3, the isotretinoin market was down we still held our market share.
11, 2% revenues for for Accutane came in about 4.1, plus for the quarter. So the run rates looking close to $19 million to $20 million for the year and we're at 11% market share do we see more opportunity as we move.
Move forward into 2023, the answer is absolutely we have gone from seventh position entering the marketplace and last position. When we started out with zero prescriptions. We now have climbed up already to the third position. So we've made great gains moving up four positions already in the <unk>.
Claude Maraoui: We now have climbed up already to the third position, so we've made, you know, great gains moving up 4 positions already in the marketplace. I think we've got some good strategies and good tactical programs to really come in a strong fashion in 2023. It comes down to execution, but there certainly is a lot more room in that brand in my perspective.
Claude Maraoui: We now have climbed up already to the third position, so we've made, you know, great gains moving up 4 positions already in the marketplace. I think we've got some good strategies and good tactical programs to really come in a strong fashion in 2023. It comes down to execution, but there certainly is a lot more room in that brand in my perspective.
Market place and I think we've got some good strategies good tactical programs to really come in as strong fashion in 2023, it comes down to execution, but there certainly is a lot more room in that brand in my perspective.
Scott Henry: Okay. Just two very small questions. First, you know, that $9.5 million wire fraud situation. You know, given that it's in cryptocurrency, yeah, how do you even think about how much money can come back to you? I assume it's less than that, but you don't know where, you know, what price it went in, what price it came out. Any color on what you think you could get back out of that transaction?
Scott Henry: Okay. Just two very small questions. First, you know, that $9.5 million wire fraud situation. You know, given that it's in cryptocurrency, yeah, how do you even think about how much money can come back to you? I assume it's less than that, but you don't know where, you know, what price it went in, what price it came out. Any color on what you think you could get back out of that transaction?
Okay and just two very small question first you know that $9 5 million wire fraud situation.
You know.
Given that it's in crypto currency, yeah, how do you even think about how much money can come back to you I assume it's less than that but you don't know what you know what price. It went in what price. It came out any any color on what you think you could get back out of that transaction.
Claude Maraoui: Sure. Yeah, great question. I'm gonna pass that off to Ramsey Alloush, our General Counsel.
Claude Maraoui: Sure. Yeah, great question. I'm gonna pass that off to Ramsey Alloush, our General Counsel.
Sure, Yes, great question, I'm going to pass that off to.
Ramzi <unk>, our general counsel.
Ramsey Alloush: Yeah, great. Hi, Scott. Thanks for the question. As you mentioned, we were victims back in September 2021 of that cyber theft. The FBI did inform us that they recovered a significant portion. It did get converted into cryptocurrency, as you mentioned. Right now, what we know is it's sitting in cryptocurrency. I guess at the time in which the administrative proceedings are complete and the money is transferred back into US dollars, it'll all depend on where, you know, using Bitcoin, for example, as the measurement, where that is in terms of dollars.
Ramsey Alloush: Yeah, great. Hi, Scott. Thanks for the question. As you mentioned, we were victims back in September 2021 of that cyber theft. The FBI did inform us that they recovered a significant portion. It did get converted into cryptocurrency, as you mentioned. Right now, what we know is it's sitting in cryptocurrency. I guess at the time in which the administrative proceedings are complete and the money is transferred back into US dollars, it'll all depend on where, you know, using Bitcoin, for example, as the measurement, where that is in terms of dollars.
Yes, Great Hi, Scott. Thanks for the question as you mentioned, we were victims back in September of 2021.
Cyber theft.
The FBI did inform us that they recovered a significant portion it could get converted into crypto currency. As you mentioned so we are right now we know sitting in crypto currency.
And so I guess at the time in which the administrative proceedings are complete and the money is transferred back into U S dollars. It will all depend on where.
Using bitcoin for example is the measurement where that is.
In terms of dollars.
Scott Henry: Okay. I guess we'll wait and see. Final question, just, that anti-itch product, is that still on track for a Q4 or, you know, I guess it'll be a very near-term launch?
Scott Henry: Okay. I guess we'll wait and see. Final question, just, that anti-itch product, is that still on track for a Q4 or, you know, I guess it'll be a very near-term launch?
Okay, I guess, we'll wait and see a final question just that anti itch product is that still on track for a fourth quarter or.
I guess it would be a very near term launch.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah, absolutely. That's the anticipated timetable that we've given in the past. You know, we had our supply issues, and that were rectified for us in July with Ximino and Exelderm. We're glad to say that was taken care of. Now we continue to work with our manufacturer for this particular brand. You know, it's frustrating for us. We anticipated having this a lot earlier, but from COVID potential impacts, if there's someone on the line that gets COVID, we get to move back to the line and start all over on the queue. When there are various excipients in tubes that are supposed to take typically 12 weeks, they're taking 16 to 18 weeks. Everything seems to keep getting pushed back and back further on the CMO part.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah, absolutely. That's the anticipated timetable that we've given in the past. You know, we had our supply issues, and that were rectified for us in July with Ximino and Exelderm. We're glad to say that was taken care of. Now we continue to work with our manufacturer for this particular brand. You know, it's frustrating for us. We anticipated having this a lot earlier, but from COVID potential impacts, if there's someone on the line that gets COVID, we get to move back to the line and start all over on the queue. When there are various excipients in tubes that are supposed to take typically 12 weeks, they're taking 16 to 18 weeks. Everything seems to keep getting pushed back and back further on the CMO part.
Yeah, absolutely that's that's the anticipated timetable that we've given in the past.
We had our supply issues.
And that were rectified for us in July with <unk>, we're glad to say that that was taken care of and now we continue to work with our manufacturer for this particular brand and.
It's it's frustrating for us we anticipated having this a lot earlier, but from COVID-19 potential impacts if there is.
Someone on the line that gets Covid, we get to move back to the line and start all over on the Q.
When there are various excipient and tubes that are supposed to take typically 12 weeks, they're taking 16 to 18 weeks. So everything he seems to keep getting pushed back and back further on the CMO part.
Claude Maraoui: In terms of the commercial readiness, in terms of training the sales force, in terms of our marketing messages, materials, we're ready to go. It's really just waiting for the manufacturing to take place on this approved product. We are at the mercy of the manufacturer. We are in constant communications on a weekly basis with them. It's been kind of up and down. We feel good, and then they hit us with a setback. I believe it's coming here in the very near future. I just don't have a date for you.
Claude Maraoui: In terms of the commercial readiness, in terms of training the sales force, in terms of our marketing messages, materials, we're ready to go. It's really just waiting for the manufacturing to take place on this approved product. We are at the mercy of the manufacturer. We are in constant communications on a weekly basis with them. It's been kind of up and down. We feel good, and then they hit us with a setback. I believe it's coming here in the very near future. I just don't have a date for you.
In terms of the commercial.
<unk> in terms of training the sales force in terms of our marketing messages materials. We're ready to go it's really just waiting for the manufacturing to take place on on this approved product so.
We are at the Mercy of the manufacturer we are in constant.
Our communications on a weekly basis with them.
And it's been kind of up and down we feel good and then they hit us with the setbacks. So.
I believe it's coming here in the very near future I, just don't have a date for you.
Scott Henry: Okay. Thank you for taking all the questions. I appreciate it and look forward to talking to you soon. Bye.
Scott Henry: Okay. Thank you for taking all the questions. I appreciate it and look forward to talking to you soon. Bye.
Okay. Thank you for taking all the questions.
I appreciate it and look forward to talking to you soon.
Yes.
Operator: Our next question comes from Brandon Folkes with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Brandon Folkes with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Our next question comes from Brandon Folkes with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Brandon Folkes: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress. Can you maybe just talk a little bit about QBREXZA and just how you're viewing that product, how you're viewing the progress there? Secondly, in terms of the $100 million opportunity you put out there, you know, can you contextualize how large of a incremental commercial investment you think you may need behind DFD-29 to achieve that $100 million? Apologies if I missed this, was that just US or worldwide? Lastly, have you said anything about the commercial opportunity for the anti-itch product? Thank you very much.
Brandon Folkes: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress. Can you maybe just talk a little bit about QBREXZA and just how you're viewing that product, how you're viewing the progress there? Secondly, in terms of the $100 million opportunity you put out there, you know, can you contextualize how large of a incremental commercial investment you think you may need behind DFD-29 to achieve that $100 million? Apologies if I missed this, was that just US or worldwide? Lastly, have you said anything about the commercial opportunity for the anti-itch product? Thank you very much.
Hi, Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress.
Can you, maybe just talk a little bit of box.
Brexit and just how you're viewing that product how are you doing good progress.
And then secondly in terms of the 100 million opportunity you've put out there.
Can you contextualize, how large of a incremental commercial investments you think you may need behind USD 29 to achieve that $100 million and apologies. If I missed this was that just you asked a worldwide.
And then maybe lastly, you said it.
Anything about the commercial opportunity for anti itch chronic thank you very much.
Claude Maraoui: Sure. Okay. Thanks, Brandon. Good to hear you. I will begin that regarding QBREXZA. Just to kind of give a level set and let you know how this brand is doing in terms of execution from the field and the demand that we're generating for this. If you take a look at 2020, again, using Symphony data, the total prescriptions for that were 92,000. That was under the realm at the time of Dermira, which was part of Eli Lilly. In 2021 with QBREXZA, we finished the acquisition, brought over the asset towards the middle to the end of May. That year, it ended up hitting 98,000 in prescriptions.
Claude Maraoui: Sure. Okay. Thanks, Brandon. Good to hear you. I will begin that regarding QBREXZA. Just to kind of give a level set and let you know how this brand is doing in terms of execution from the field and the demand that we're generating for this. If you take a look at 2020, again, using Symphony data, the total prescriptions for that were 92,000. That was under the realm at the time of Dermira, which was part of Eli Lilly. In 2021 with QBREXZA, we finished the acquisition, brought over the asset towards the middle to the end of May. That year, it ended up hitting 98,000 in prescriptions.
Sure Okay.
Thanks, Brandon good to hear you.
I will begin that regarding <unk>, so just to kind of give a level set and let you know how this brand is doing in terms of.
Execution from the field and the demand that we're generating for this.
If you take a look at your 2020 again using symphony data the total prescriptions for that or 92000 and that was under the realm at the time of term Euro which was part of Eli Lilly and then in 2021 with <unk>.
Finished the acquisition brought over the asset towards the middle to the end of May that year.
It ended up hitting 98000 and prescriptions and now at a full year through nine months of 2022.
Claude Maraoui: Now at a full year through nine months of 2022, right now, if we just average out the last few months of the year, we're looking at approximately anywhere from 115,000 prescriptions to 120,000 prescriptions if that were to happen on the average, which would be a 20%+ gain over last year. When I look at it from that perspective, and when we rely on a highly tenured commercial sales team, I see a lot of progress there in that front. Then in terms of, you know, revenue and what it's generating for us on a regular quarterly cycle, we're looking at anywhere between $6 to 7 million.
Claude Maraoui: Now at a full year through nine months of 2022, right now, if we just average out the last few months of the year, we're looking at approximately anywhere from 115,000 prescriptions to 120,000 prescriptions if that were to happen on the average, which would be a 20%+ gain over last year. When I look at it from that perspective, and when we rely on a highly tenured commercial sales team, I see a lot of progress there in that front. Then in terms of, you know, revenue and what it's generating for us on a regular quarterly cycle, we're looking at anywhere between $6 to 7 million.
Right now if we just average out the last few months of the year, we're looking at approximately anywhere from 100.
15000 prescriptions to 120000 prescriptions, if that were to happen on the average which would be a 20% plus gain over last year. So when I when I look at it from that perspective, and when we rely on a highly tenured our commercial sales team.
I see a lot of progress there in that front.
And then in terms of.
Revenue and what it's generating for us on a regular quarterly cycle, we're looking at anywhere between $6 million to $7 million.
Claude Maraoui: When we take a look at through nine months, QBREXZA by itself has brought in just about $20 million in three months. We still have this full quarter to go in Q4. Then when you add on top of that as well, the additional milestone revenue that we received from our partners, Maruho in Japan, a milestone payment of $2.5 million, you're looking at a potential run rate from $28 to 30 million. I think that the brand is doing well. It's meeting our expectations. We certainly believe with the successful settlement that we had that's going all the way out to 2030, that we have ample room to grow this brand over time.
Claude Maraoui: When we take a look at through nine months, QBREXZA by itself has brought in just about $20 million in three months. We still have this full quarter to go in Q4. Then when you add on top of that as well, the additional milestone revenue that we received from our partners, Maruho in Japan, a milestone payment of $2.5 million, you're looking at a potential run rate from $28 to 30 million. I think that the brand is doing well. It's meeting our expectations. We certainly believe with the successful settlement that we had that's going all the way out to 2030, that we have ample room to grow this brand over time.
So when we take a look at through nine months <unk>.
By itself has brought in just about $20 million in three months, we still have this full quarter to go in Q4, and then when you add on top of that as well the additional milestone revenue that we received from our partners <unk> in Japan, a milestone payment of <unk>.
Two and a half million youre looking at a potential run rate from $28 million to $30 million. So I think that the brand is doing well it's meeting our expectations. We certainly believe with the successful settlement that we had that's going all the way out to 2030.
That we have ample room to grow this brand over time and we've been doing a very strong effort on the DTC front and search search engine optimization and then owning.
Claude Maraoui: We've been doing a very strong effort on the DTC front and search engine optimization, and then owning the offices with our providers and dermatologists. On that front, I think QBREXZA is well in a good position. We certainly wanna ramp it up some more. This is a market really that's being created, right? Patients are not even aware that this is really a disease. They're not aware that they can get provided a product that typically has 77% of patients reporting that their underarm sweating is much better to moderately better in just four weeks of utilization. This has all the characteristics of building a brand that's significantly more than $30 million over time.
Claude Maraoui: We've been doing a very strong effort on the DTC front and search engine optimization, and then owning the offices with our providers and dermatologists. On that front, I think QBREXZA is well in a good position. We certainly wanna ramp it up some more. This is a market really that's being created, right? Patients are not even aware that this is really a disease. They're not aware that they can get provided a product that typically has 77% of patients reporting that their underarm sweating is much better to moderately better in just four weeks of utilization. This has all the characteristics of building a brand that's significantly more than $30 million over time.
The the offices with our providers and dermatologists. So on that front I think <unk> is well in a good position, we certainly want to ramp it up some more and this is a market really that's being created right patients are not even aware that this is really a disease.
Theyre not theyre not aware that they can get provided a product that typically has 77% of patients reporting that theyre underarm sweating is much better to moderately better in just four weeks of utilization. So this has all the characteristics of building.
A brand that significantly more than $30 million over time.
Claude Maraoui: In terms of DFD-29, you know, we have rights to it globally with a few exceptions. I'm gonna have Ramsey talk about that and then also discuss a little bit more about the financial backing regarding DFD-29. Perhaps Ernie will jump in there.
Claude Maraoui: In terms of DFD-29, you know, we have rights to it globally with a few exceptions. I'm gonna have Ramsey talk about that and then also discuss a little bit more about the financial backing regarding DFD-29. Perhaps Ernie will jump in there.
In terms of DFT 29.
This is a.
We have rights to weak globally with a few exceptions I'm gonna have Ramsey talk about that and then also discuss a little bit more about the financial backing regarding DFT 29, perhaps Ernie will jump in there.
Ramsey Alloush: Sure. Thanks, Claude. Hello, Brandon. Just to answer your question in terms of the peak revenues of $100 million, we were looking at that US only. As Claude mentioned, we do have global rights, subject to a few exceptions. That includes what we know as the BRIC countries, Brazil, Russia, India, and China, as well as what they call the CIS countries, which are some smaller, older Eastern European countries. We do see opportunities, not only in Europe, but in Japan and other markets as well to be able to either co-develop, or out-license, or develop ourselves. There's definitely potential outside of the US. I think I'll hand it over to Ernie to discuss.
Ramsey Alloush: Sure. Thanks, Claude. Hello, Brandon. Just to answer your question in terms of the peak revenues of $100 million, we were looking at that US only. As Claude mentioned, we do have global rights, subject to a few exceptions. That includes what we know as the BRIC countries, Brazil, Russia, India, and China, as well as what they call the CIS countries, which are some smaller, older Eastern European countries. We do see opportunities, not only in Europe, but in Japan and other markets as well to be able to either co-develop, or out-license, or develop ourselves. There's definitely potential outside of the US. I think I'll hand it over to Ernie to discuss.
Sure. Thanks, Claude Hello, Brandon just to answer your question in terms of the peak revenues of $100 million, we were looking at that U S. Only.
Claude mentioned, we do have global rights subject to a few exceptions that includes what we know is the BRIC countries, Brazil, Russia, India and China.
As well as what they call the CIS countries, which are some small old.
Smaller older.
Eastern European countries, and so we do see opportunities not only in Europe , but in.
In Japan, and other markets as well to be able to either co develop our out license or develop ourselves. So there is definitely potential outside of the U S.
And I think I'll hand, it over to Ernie to discuss I think the question was commercial commercial spends to get this thing up and running to that to that point.
Ramsey Alloush: I think the question was, you know, commercial spends to get this thing up and running to that point.
Ramsey Alloush: I think the question was, you know, commercial spends to get this thing up and running to that point.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Yeah. Hi, Brandon. Good to talk with you. On the commercial side of it, there will be additional marketing expenses as you would expect to get the product up and running, similar to that of the other products that we have. We hadn't given guidance. In addition to that, there will be other commercial expenses, you know, for once the territories are identified and once the number of sales reps are identified. There will be additional expenses for the sales force, for marketing and probably some other things. I don't know, you know, MSLs or whatever, but we haven't really given guidance on that fact. Probably, you know, similar percentage that we would spend in the introduction of one of our other brands as well.
Ernest De Paolantonio: Yeah. Hi, Brandon. Good to talk with you. On the commercial side of it, there will be additional marketing expenses as you would expect to get the product up and running, similar to that of the other products that we have. We hadn't given guidance. In addition to that, there will be other commercial expenses, you know, for once the territories are identified and once the number of sales reps are identified. There will be additional expenses for the sales force, for marketing and probably some other things. I don't know, you know, MSLs or whatever, but we haven't really given guidance on that fact. Probably, you know, similar percentage that we would spend in the introduction of one of our other brands as well.
Yeah, Hi, Brandon good good to talk with you on the commercial side of it there will be additional marketing expenses as you would.
As you would expect to get the product up and running similar to that.
Of the other products that we have we haven't given guidance and in addition to that there will be other commercial expenses.
Four.
Once the territories are identified and once the number of sales reps are identified so there there will be additional.
Expenses for the sales force.
For marketing and properly probably some other things I don't know.
<unk> or whatever but we haven't really given guidance on that.
Perfect.
Yes.
Probably a similar percentage that we would spend in the introduction of one of our other brands as well.
Brandon Folkes: Great. Thank you very much for all that. Thanks.
Brandon Folkes: Great. Thank you very much for all that. Thanks.
Alright, Thank you very much.
Operator: Our next question comes from Kalpit Patel with B. Riley. Please go ahead with your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from Kalpit Patel with B. Riley. Please go ahead with your question.
Our next question comes from <unk> Patel with B Riley. Please go ahead with your question.
[Analyst] (B. Riley): Good afternoon. This is Andy on for Kalpit. Thank you for taking the question. I know you guys aren't providing revenue guidance at this time, but maybe looking out into 2023, do you expect revenue growth from QBREXZA, Accutane, Amzeeq, and Ximino to overcome declining revenues from your legacy assets? Or are you sort of in steady state at this point and maybe we'll need to wait for DFD-29's commercial launch to really see top line growth?
Kalpit Patel: Good afternoon. This is Andy on for Kalpit. Thank you for taking the question. I know you guys aren't providing revenue guidance at this time, but maybe looking out into 2023, do you expect revenue growth from QBREXZA, Accutane, Amzeeq, and Ximino to overcome declining revenues from your legacy assets? Or are you sort of in steady state at this point and maybe we'll need to wait for DFD-29's commercial launch to really see top line growth?
Good afternoon. This is Andy on for Calvert, and thank you for taking the question.
I know you guys aren't providing revenue guidance at this time, but maybe looking out into 2023 do you expect that do you expect revenue growth from <unk> Accutane M D.
How do you overcome declining revenues from your legacy assets or are you sort of in steady state at this point and maybe we'll need to wait for DFT 29, commercial launch to really see topline growth.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. Hi, Andy. This is Claude. Nice to say hello. You know, in terms of Targadox, really the competition with the generic out there, I really think that 2022, we're really taking the brunt of this competition. That's where really we're getting impacted the most. I think we've been forthright and detailed on that. As 2023 enters, you know, we'll see Targadox becoming less material for the revenue base in terms of our legacy brands. Now, the remaining legacy brands would be really considered for us are Ximino as well as Exelderm really taking the bulk of the revenue. Actually we really believe that Ximino and Exelderm are gonna hold their own quite well in 2023.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah. Hi, Andy. This is Claude. Nice to say hello. You know, in terms of Targadox, really the competition with the generic out there, I really think that 2022, we're really taking the brunt of this competition. That's where really we're getting impacted the most. I think we've been forthright and detailed on that. As 2023 enters, you know, we'll see Targadox becoming less material for the revenue base in terms of our legacy brands. Now, the remaining legacy brands would be really considered for us are Ximino as well as Exelderm really taking the bulk of the revenue. Actually we really believe that Ximino and Exelderm are gonna hold their own quite well in 2023.
Yes, Hi, Andy This is Claude nice to say Hello.
So.
In terms of target ox really the competition.
With the generic out there I really think that 2022, we're really taking the brunt of this.
Competition, So that's where really we're getting impacted the most.
And I think we've been.
Forthright and detailed on that so as 2023 enters.
We will see target ox, becoming less material for the revenue base in terms of our legacy brands now the remaining legacy brands would be.
Really considered for us are zannino as well as excellent really taking the bulk of the revenue and actually we're really believes that <unk> and <unk> are going to hold their own quite well in 2023, So we're not really.
Claude Maraoui: We're not really anticipating declines with those two assets. The base should hold strong with legacy brands for 2023. Now, in terms of our newly launched brands, it certainly is our expectations that we're gonna get growth from each of these brands in 2023, and certainly that is part of our brand plan and our overall overarching strategy.
Claude Maraoui: We're not really anticipating declines with those two assets. The base should hold strong with legacy brands for 2023. Now, in terms of our newly launched brands, it certainly is our expectations that we're gonna get growth from each of these brands in 2023, and certainly that is part of our brand plan and our overall overarching strategy.
Anticipating declines with those two assets. So the base should hold strong with legacy brands for 2023 now in terms of our newly launched brands.
Certainly as our expectations that we're going to get growth from each of these brands in 2023, and certainly that is part of our brand plan and our over overall arching strategy.
[Analyst] (B. Riley): That's helpful. Thank you.
Kalpit Patel: That's helpful. Thank you.
Claude Maraoui: Yes.
Claude Maraoui: Yes.
That's helpful. Thank you and then.
[Analyst] (B. Riley): Maybe one additional question to dig a little bit deeper on Accutane. You mentioned that your market share held in this product, but you saw kind of a decline in the overall market. Can you elaborate a little bit on that, whether it was macro-related or something else, or what's taking place there?
And then maybe one additional question to dig a little bit deeper on Accutane, you mentioned that your market share held and this product, but you saw kind of a decline in the overall market can you you can you elaborate a little bit on that whether it was macro related or something else there or what's taking place there.
Kalpit Patel: Maybe one additional question to dig a little bit deeper on Accutane. You mentioned that your market share held in this product, but you saw kind of a decline in the overall market. Can you elaborate a little bit on that, whether it was macro-related or something else, or what's taking place there?
Yeah.
Claude Maraoui: Sure. The market itself is down. When you take a look at Q3 over Q2 2022, you're looking at about a 12% decline in the market itself. You know what that is necessarily attributable to, I can't tell you 100%, but a lot of times there are, you know, a lot less people going into the dermatology office. This is a product, once a patient is on it, they're typically on it for, you know, anywhere from four to six months, but you're not necessarily getting as many new patients on. That really is for the entire market, not just our particular brand. But, you know, like you mentioned, and as I mentioned, that 11 + 11.12% share that we've had has been very consistent.
Claude Maraoui: Sure. The market itself is down. When you take a look at Q3 over Q2 2022, you're looking at about a 12% decline in the market itself. You know what that is necessarily attributable to, I can't tell you 100%, but a lot of times there are, you know, a lot less people going into the dermatology office. This is a product, once a patient is on it, they're typically on it for, you know, anywhere from four to six months, but you're not necessarily getting as many new patients on. That really is for the entire market, not just our particular brand. But, you know, like you mentioned, and as I mentioned, that 11 + 11.12% share that we've had has been very consistent.
Sure.
The.
The market itself is down.
When you take a look at Q3 over.
Q2, 2022, you're looking at about a 12% decline in the market itself. So you know what that is necessarily attributable I can't tell you, a 100%, but still lots of times or less people going into the dermatology office.
This is a product once a patient is on it theyre typically on it for anywhere from four to six months, but you're not necessarily getting as many new patients on so that really is.
For the entire market not just our particular brand.
But.
Like like you mentioned and as I mentioned that 11, plus 11, one 2% share that we've had has been very consistent and I think I forgot to mention earlier that was each prescription that we get a quantified back into approximately one <unk>.
Claude Maraoui: I think I forgot to mention earlier that with each prescription that we get, it quantifies back into approximately 1.6 to 1.8 units sold, you know, per month. That's also a very good positive attribute that the brand has.
Claude Maraoui: I think I forgot to mention earlier that with each prescription that we get, it quantifies back into approximately 1.6 to 1.8 units sold, you know, per month. That's also a very good positive attribute that the brand has.
<unk> to one eight units sold.
Per month. So that's also a very good.
Positive attribute that the brand has.
[Analyst] (B. Riley): Excellent. Thank you very much.
Kalpit Patel: Excellent. Thank you very much.
Excellent. Thank you very much.
Claude Maraoui: Sure.
Claude Maraoui: Sure.
Sure.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Claude Maraoui for any closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Claude Maraoui for any closing remarks.
This concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to Claude Murali.
Any closing remarks.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah, appreciate it, and really just wanted to thank you all for participating on today's call, for your interest in Journey Medical. We look forward to sharing our ongoing progress when we report Q4 and year-end results in March. Thanks, and have a good day.
Claude Maraoui: Yeah, appreciate it, and really just wanted to thank you all for participating on today's call, for your interest in Journey Medical. We look forward to sharing our ongoing progress when we report Q4 and year-end results in March. Thanks, and have a good day.
Yeah appreciate it and really just wanted to thank thank you all for participating on today's call for your interest in journey medical.
We look forward to sharing our ongoing progress when we report fourth quarter and year end results in March.
And have a good day.
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