Q3 2022 North West Company Inc Earnings Call

Speaker 2: as current expectations, estimates, projections, and assumptions.

Speaker 3: These forward-looking statements are not guaranteed with future performance and are subject to certain risks which could cause actual performance and financial results in the future to vary maturely from those contemplated in the forward-looking statements.

Speaker 4: For additional information on these risks, please see Northwest Annual Information Forum and its MD&A under the heading Risk Factors. Dan? Thank you, Dan.

Speaker 5: Thanks Amanda. Let me start by outlining the key highlights of our call today.

Speaker 6: Consolidated sales in the corridor increased 6%, driven by inflation and the impact of foreign exchange.

Speaker 7: Also, similar to what we've noted over the previous quarters, we continue to cycle through the COVID-19 related tailwinds from last year. This has resulted in customers shifting their spending towards food and essentials and away from discretionary and general merchandise items.

Speaker 8: These factors are the primary reasons for the changes in our SAM store sales.

Speaker 9: Inflation also continues to negatively impact our gross profit rate and expenses as we've been taking a balanced approach and not fully passing through all the cost increases and retail prices, which I will unpack for you in just a minute.

Speaker 10: The inflationary cost pressures this year combined with the COVID-19 related factors from last year resulted in lower earnings for the quarter.

Speaker 11: That said, our overall sales and earnings trends remain positive compared to the third quarter of 2019.

Speaker 12: Ok, let me provide some colour in terms of sales for the quarter. Starting with the Canadian operations, sales increased 2.7% with food mitigating some of the impacts of lower general merchandise sales. As I previously noted, customers have reduced discretionary spending. They are not only shifting away from general merchandise to food, they are also shifting away from food.

Speaker 13: but they also are focusing their purchases on value items within the food categories.

Speaker 14: Sales on the international side increased 4.1% led by overall performance in Alaska, which was mitigated with mixed results in the Caribbean and Pacific.

Speaker 15: Particularly, it's worth highlighting that the tailwoods came from two factors.

Speaker 16: One, our new store is in Alaska. And two, the increase in the permanent fund dividend payment, which was around $3,200 per person this year, which was about $1,100 paid late in Q3 of last year.

Speaker 17: And although this quarter is typically slower in terms of tourism, the year to date pick up and travel has had a positive effect in local economies like the British Virgin Islands.

Speaker 18: On the flip side, in certain territories in the Pacific and the Caribbean, we continue to cycle through the impact of income support payments from the American Rescue Plan last year while tourism numbers are still below pre-pandemic levels.

Speaker 19: What was a common thread across all of our markets is that our customers have been trying to adapt the best they can to lower income support and higher inflation.

Speaker 20: Alright, let me expand on this for just a minute. We are concerned about the impacts of inflation for our customers. This is a global issue that affects all regions where we operate.

Speaker 21: But this is particularly sensitive for our northern customers in Canada and Alaska as they are impacted by two factors. First, merchandise cost inflation. We buy products from suppliers for resale.

Speaker 22: And so we're dependent on the prices they determine for the products.

Speaker 23: Although we continue to closely monitor all these increases and work with our vendors to minimize them, the fact is that around the world these costs are all escalating. Second and more importantly, free costs are also increasing. When we factor in higher fuel and transportation costs, the impact of inflation on the shelf prices is even greater in the north compared to southern retailers.

Speaker 24: That said, other factors affected the performance of our gross profit rate included changes in our sales blend and increases in markdowns as well as in shrink.

Speaker 25: The shift in sales from general merchandise to food has affected categories like seasonal and apparel where we've incurred markdowns to clear some of the slower moving merchandise.

Speaker 26: We also experienced higher inventory shrink in the quarters. Some purchase orders in certain categories were not adjusted fast enough for the changes in customer shopping behaviors.

Speaker 27: As a result, our gross profit rate was down 84 basis points this quarter.

Speaker 28: I'll just take a minute to talk about inventory here. The increase in our inventory levels is largely due to the higher inflation in our supplier costs that I just referred to and the impact of foreign exchange, which saw an increase in the quarter compared to last year.

Speaker 29: Overall, the increase in the inventory levels was largely in center store grocery and categories like motorized products and home furnishings that were impacted by the supply chain disruptions.

Speaker 30: Our expenses have also been negatively impacted by inflation in the foreign exchange rates. We're feeling most of the pressure on utility expenses, given high fuel costs.

Speaker 31: Our operations teams and all around the company have been practicing and bearing down on some of the energy conservation routines and practices. And this is just to help mitigate the impacts, but at the end of the day we're still subject to an inflation of fuel costs.

Speaker 32: Expenses related to our new stores and operations were also a factor.

Okay, now I'll give a brief talk about North Star Air. We do continue to see a recovery in the passenger business as travel restrictions have been eliminated. The cargo business also saw increases as third-party freight and charter work bumped up the utilization of baselers in our ATRs.

Increases from fuel surcharges on both cargo and passengers were also a factor on the revenue increases consistent with what other air carriers have been doing throughout this inflationary cycle.

I think I'll leave it at that in terms of the recap of key factors that impacted our results for the quarter. And now, looking ahead, I'll just briefly, we do expect to lap COVID-19 related impacts by the end of the fourth quarter this year. Keeping in mind that there were still some travel restrictions and income support payments present in our markets last year on the fourth quarter.

I also want to point out as a reminder that we had a $6.2 million after-tax insurance-related gain in the fourth quarter last year as well.

In terms of the fourth quarter this year, the outlook continues to be uncertain as we expect inflationary pressures to continue in the short term. Considering all these factors, our net earnings in the fourth quarter are expected to be lower than last year, but above pre-pandemic levels.

Beyond Q4, macroeconomic circumstances are also difficult to forecast.

There are some analysts that expect a recession next year, especially after the measures taken by the central bank to reduce inflation. The impact of a recession is difficult to forecast. However, our focus on food and everyday products and services provides us downside protection.

As noted in our report to shareholders, the medium and longer term outlook for the company is positive and is based on the expected impact of government transfer payments and higher infrastructure spending in the indigenous communities.

In all, we're excited for the future of our business. We continue to open store new stores. In Canada, we opened two new stores this quarter, one in Little Grand Rapids and another in mould Park

In Alaska we also open two stores and we expect to open another one before the end of the fiscal year.

Overall, we've been getting great feedback from new communities where we're operating in and they are all very excited to have Northwest Company Store.

We're also getting great reception from new communities we're currently working with to potentially expand to, which signals that we're doing the right thing and filling a need within the markets.

We continue to focus across all banners on providing the best value to our customers within this high inflation environment, striving to deliver on our purpose of making people's lives better in the communities that we serve.

Now with that, let me open it up if there's any questions. Thank you.

Thank you.

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The first question is from Michael Van Elf from TD Securities. Please go ahead, your line is open. Thanks for

Bye good afternoon, thank you.

First question is on Canada and

looking at your same store sales down 1.8 but then your revenues are up 2.7% you said. How much of that is tied to the new stores and how much of that is tied to NSA with the increased passenger business and the increased freight business, third-party freight.

Hi Mike, it's John . Both of those were factors. We're not going to break out the individual components there, but they were both factors.

Okay, can they say which one was more important?

Okay.

At this point it would have been North Star Air. Yeah, I think that the airline would have been the key, the bigger factor out of the two.

Okay, and then I pulled them over Mike.

Lasker, you talked about increasing competition, not allowing you to pass through some of the costs a little, fully at least at this point. Can you talk about how that competition has changed, if at all, from Q2 into Q3 and what you're seeing now?

Yes, as we're still taking a balanced approach Mike as I indicated, that said the competitors are definitely increasing their pricing just with the environment as we're all kind of living and experiencing and as I indicated the the significance of it in the north. If they weren't passing it on I'm afraid they'd be out of business so definitely these are the things that we're looking for.

is it seems like your cost inflation seems to have increased from Q2 to Q3, particularly on the OPEX side. So you're seeing more

Are you seeing a similar amount of...

of cost being absorbed, let's call it, from Q2 to Q3?

or did that decrease or increase? I would say it's decreases. There's been probably more pass-through, but whatever, what you are seeing, obviously utilities were a major factor. So that's probably what you're seeing in some of that bump.

Okay.

All right, and the...

the utility increases and the other OPEX increases that we saw that propped up the OPEX expense this quarter. Is there anything in there that is short-term in nature? Do you see all of this basically as the new norm and you've got to cycle through that?

I'd say it's probably the new norm that we'd have to cycle through.

It's not getting, I don't know if you're not in Winnipeg, but it's minus 26 today, so heat is required.

All right, I'll leave it there. Thank you. Thanks Michael

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The next question is from Mark Petrie from CIBC. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Thanks, good afternoon. Following up on the topic of cost versus being able to pass on price, just to be clear, this is still an issue but it's not as significant as an issue as it was in Q2 or earlier in the year. Is that the right way to characterize it?

Yes. Okay. I guess sort of…

With regards to the sort of shifts in consumer behaviour that you're seeing, and it sounds like that's accelerated based on your comments, I guess just confirm that that's true, and then curious if that's different in sort of the different markets.

that you operate in and I guess that being sort of, you know.

north and south and kind of remote versus just rural.

I'd say it'd be pretty consistent amongst all our markets. Everybody is looking for less expensive solutions in order to feed their families or to sustain their well-being. So yeah, I would say it's pretty wide set across the...

consistent amongst all our markets. Everybody is looking for less expensive solutions in order to feed their families or to sustain their wellbeing. So yeah, I would say it's wide set. It's across all the stores.

We're continuing to look at you know obviously solutions there and the solutions would be lower cost product whether it be some other branded items that we can pass on to sustain margin but then create a more effective solution for our customers.

you know obviously solutions there and the solutions would be lower cost product whether it be some other branded items that we can pass on to sustain margin but then create a more effective solution for our customers. So that's work that's ongoing.

Yeah, that was sort of my next question, I guess, is just the status of private label within your assortment, the percentage penetration now, I'm sort of obviously specifically to food, the percentage penetration now versus pre-pandemic and

if there's sort of accelerated efforts to continue to grow that.

Yes, that is, well as far as it is an opportunity that we're exploring because we do think it's a, you know, it's again a considerable value prop to our customers but as far as our ratios of penetration now versus prior, intuitively I would say it's...

we got higher penetration now, but I as far as the the quantum I

I couldn't give you that.

And the margin within the general merchandise business

Does that?

Do you think that there's an expectation of a fluctuation within that based on the consumer behavior that you're seeing?

So I think there's a, sorry could you repeat, a fluctuation? Yeah, I guess what I'm getting at is if people are shifting spending from discretionary to staples, does that affect your profitability of your general merchandise business or do you sort of, it affects sales and not so much margin? It would affect the margin as well.

Yeah, okay.

I was just going to say as I indicated, we have had to take some write downs on some of the inventory but there's others of which it's planned as we talked about before, particularly with big ticket. It's opportune time now so we're ready and we're inventoried and ready for selling season.

Okay, appreciate the comments. Thanks. All right, Mark. Thanks.

Thank you.

The next question is from Steven McCloud from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Hello.

I just wanted to, just with respect to your commentary around acquisitions and new stores and things like that, just curious through the economic weakness that you we've been seeing and you cited as well and one of your in response to one of the questions about if people aren't putting through price they're going out of business.

Just curious if any potential acquisition opportunities have come up or accelerated over the last couple of quarters in any of your markets?

No major acquisitions Stephen but there's definitely a lot of tuck-ins.

qualify that. There's definitely been some tuck-ins that I indicated to you earlier that we've taken advantage of and we see there to be a few more that we'll be looking at over the next number of quarters and our eyes are open and we're definitely we've looked at a lot of things but we'll make sure that it's a

you know, a strong, it aligns with our kind of core competencies and our capabilities to ensure that we can add value and our derived value from whatever acquisition we venture into. But I would say that there's...

No major acquisitions in the immediate future.

No, that's right. Just with respect to the PFD in Alaska.

Do you think you realize the entire benefit from that in the quarter or is there some that may trickle into the next quarter?

We did drive a strong benefit in this quarter and typically it does trickle on into the next quarter. So I would say

would expect that we're going to still see some benefit from that in the fourth quarter ramping up for some of the holiday season selling events.

Okay that's great thank you. And then maybe just finally with respect to general merchandise and your assortment given the consumer spending shifts that you're seeing you know I would assume that holiday is a big general merchandise period for you so just curious on any changes you've made to your probability of growth? I do not got a good idea what that means...

assortment planning for Q4. Okay, that's Q4. Yeah, well, no way.

Repeat the end of the question. Sorry Steven if you could. Yeah no problem. So I was just wondering if you had any changes to your general merchandise assortment planning for the holiday period given the shifts we're seeing in the...

consumer spending away from GM towards food.

No, I wouldn't say that I've seen any shifts currently.

It's a, you know, purchases we did scale down as you recall, but we're, you know, we're expecting the same trajectory on our general merchandise sales throughout Q4.

That's probably the best way to phrase it. Yeah, okay, no that's helpful. Okay, that's great. Thanks guys, appreciate it. Alright, thank you.

Thank you. The next question from Michael Van Elf from TD Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you. Just a follow-up on in the international business can you tell us what the gross margin change was there?

No, no, I probably wouldn't, I wouldn't disclose that Michael. I'll leave that to...

you to kind of take a look and hypothesize. You're usually pretty accurate. The 84 basis points that you told us before, was that Canada or is that overall?

That was overall. Yeah, that was overall.

And then if you look at the change, you know, the drop in the...

at the DA margin in Canada versus what we're seeing in the international markets. Can you kind of compare and contrast?

Yeah, the main.

the main factors behind the margin contraction in each.

Well, I've identified kind of globally like what the contraction items are for each and I would say that the benefits as I indicated in the International were related to the PFD, to the Alaska Stronger Performance. I think it's probably...

That's the answer really. I mean I outlined why we were stronger in our performances in Alaska and what the overall drags were on the operations and I'd say you could attribute all those draws to...

not only some of the international markets that we had suffered in that regard, but also into Canada.

The fuel surcharges we talked about, obviously that would be a considerable draw, the inflation, some of the higher the inflation, some of the expenses. You can appreciate that fuel has this considerable impact not only from the heating but from the distribution and freight.

I think that gives you

And is fuel more of an impact in the north or in the international?

North.

Yeah, I'm done.

Great, thank you very much. The planes are less efficient than the ships.

Thank you.

Thank you.

There are no further questions registered at this time. We'll return the call back to Mr. McCombs.

Questions registered at this time. We'll return the call back to Mr McConnell.

Okay, well thank you. I appreciate the questions and I hope everybody has a great holiday season.

We'll be busy focusing on driving sales. So have a great rest of the day. Thank you.

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Q3 2022 North West Company Inc Earnings Call

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