Q4 2022 Five Star Bancorp Earnings Call
Speaker 2: Welcome to the 5-star Bancorp fourth quarter and year-end earnings webcast.
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Speaker 6: Before we get started, let me remind you that today's meeting will include some forward-looking statements within the meeting of applicable securities laws.
Speaker 7: These forward-looking statements relate to, among other things, current plans, expectations, events, including the continuing impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, and industry trends that may affect the company's future operating results and financial position.
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Speaker 9: For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the company's forward-looking statements, please see the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022, 2021, and in particular, the information sent forth in item 1A.
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Speaker 11: which is included in the appendix to the presentation.
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Speaker 13: I would now like to turn the presentation over to James Beckwith, bookstore bank or president and CEO . Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker 14: Thank you for joining us to review Five Star Bancorp's financial results for the fourth quarter and the year ended December 31, 2022. Joining me today is Heather Luck, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker 15: Our comments today will refer to the financial information that was included in the earnings announcement released yesterday. To obtain a copy of the release, please visit our website at 5starBarring.com and click on the Investor Relations tab.
Speaker 16: In the company overview section, we have provided a brief overview of our geographic footprint and our executive management team.
Speaker 17: The fourth quarter of 2022 exhibited continued execution of our growth strategy as evidenced by our earnings, expense management, and balance sheet trends during the quarter. Additionally, loans, deposits, and total assets have consistently grown.
Speaker 18: since the prior periods. Our pipeline continues to remain strong at the end of 2022 within verticals we have historically operated in as presented in the loan portfolio diversification slide.
Speaker 19: Loans held for investment increased during the quarter by $208.3 million or 8.07% from the prior quarter and increased by $856.9 million.
Speaker 20: or 44.29% year over year, primarily within the commercial real estate concentration of the loan portfolio.
Speaker 21: Loan originations during the quarter were approximately $295.3 million and payoffs were $86.8 million.
Speaker 22: During 2022, loan originations were approximately 1.4 billion, and payoffs were 513.9 million.
Speaker 23: Acid quality continues to remain strong.
Speaker 24: with non-performing loans representing only 0.01% of the portfolio.
Speaker 25: slightly decreasing from the last several quarters.
Speaker 26: As of December 31, 2022, the allowance for loan losses totaled $28.4 million.
Speaker 27: We recorded a $1.3 million provision for loan losses during the fourth quarter, primarily related to loan growth.
Speaker 28: for a total provision for loan losses.
Speaker 29: of 6.7 million for the year.
Speaker 30: The ratio of the allowance for loan losses to total loans for help for investment
Speaker 31: was 1.02% at year-end.
Speaker 32: Loans designated as substandard totaled approximately $0.4 million.
at the end of 2022.
representing a decrease in substandard loans of approximately 26,000 from the previous quarter and a decrease of approximately 10.2 million from the previous year-end.
Now that we have discussed the loan portfolio,
I will hand it over to Heather to discuss deposits, capital, and the results of operations. Heather?
Thank you, Dean, and hello everyone.
During the fourth quarter, deposits increased by 167.7 million or 6.41 percent as compared to the previous quarter.
During 2022, deposits increased by $496.1 million, or 21.7% since the end of the prior year.
of which $69.1 million of the growth related to non-interest bearing deposits.
Non-interesting deposits as a percent of total deposits at the end of the fourth quarter decreased to 34.9% from 39% at the end of the previous quarter and 39.5% at the end of the previous year.
We've had strong deposit growth over the last several quarters with deposit balances increasing when compared to the prior quarter and year.
Non-interest-bearing deposits decreased by $49.4 million, while interest-bearing deposits increased by $217.1 million quarter over quarter.
Cost of total deposit was 95 basis points during the first quarter and 43 basis points during 2022 overall.
We continue to be well capitalized with all capital ratios well above regulatory thresholds for the quarter and the year.
As disclosed in our prior quarter call, we redeemed $28.8 million of previously existing subordinated notes on December 15, 2022, with the proceeds received from our private placement of $75 million in aggregate principal amounts of fixed-afloating rate subordinate notes For more information onAustralia's
on September 1st, 2032, completed on August 17, 2022.
Net income for the quarter was $13.3 million, return on average assets was 1.7%, and return on average equity was 21.5%.
Net income for the year was $44.8 million, return on average assets was 1.57%, and return on average equity was 18.8%.
New loan originations drove increases in the daily average balance of loans period over period.
Abrosoloneo for the quarter was 5.12%, representing an increase of 37 basis points over the prior quarter.
Average loan yield for 2022 was 4.75% representing a decrease of 7 big points over 2021.
As a result of these factors, our net interest margin was 3.83% for the quarter, while net interest margin for the prior quarter was 3.86%.
Our netted smart and was 3.75% for the year while netted smart and was...
For the prior year it was 3.64%.
The change in the yield curve as a result of interest rate hikes that occurred during the year had a negative impact on the company's accumulated other comprehensive income.
The negative impact on the company's accumulated other comprehensive income improved slightly during the quarter into December 31, 2022 in the amount of $3.7 million.
primarily in our mortgage-backed and municipal securities portfolios resulting in lower unrealized losses in each of these portfolios of 1.5 million and 2.1 million dollars respectively.
The negative impact
across the decline in tangible book value per share, which is a non-GAAP financial measure discussed in our press release.
This decline was offset by increases to tangible book value per share due to an increase in equity as a result of net income earned in the quarter for a net increase in tangible book value per share of 79 cents.
Non-interest income increased to $1.6 million in the fourth quarter from $1.4 million in the previous quarter. Do you primarily to a $100,000 increase in gain on sale loans?
related to higher volumes of loans sold and a $100,000 increase in other income related to a gain on distribution received on an investment in a venture-backed fund earned during the quarter.
Non-interest income decreased to $7.2 million in 2022 from $7.3 million in 2021 due primarily to increases in loan-related fees earned of $0.9 million and other income of $0.4 million from gains recorded on investments in center-backed funds during the year.
The remaining increases related to FHLP dividends and earnings on Foley during the year.
These increases were partially offset by decreasing gain on sales loans of 1.1 million related to lower yields on loans so during the year.
And a $27 million reduction in the net gain on sale of securities year over year due to minimal sales of securities during 2022 compared to 2021.
Non-issue expense remain relatively flat quarter of a quarter with decreased professional services of 0.2 million related illegal expenses incurred for corporate organizational matters completed in Q3 2022, offset by increases in other operating expenses of 0.5 million.
primarily related to $300,000 of expenses recognized on unamortized, subordinated debt issuance costs upon the redemption of the subordinated notes in December 2022.
Combined with increased expenses incurred related to travel and fees paid for attendance at professional events, conferences, and other business-related events during Q4 of 2022.
On interest expense increased from 2021 to 2022, relating to increased salaries and employee benefits of 3.6 million, due to a 9.2% increase in headcount.
Partially offset by $1 million in loan origination costs related to increased production during 2022.
Other operating expenses also increase year-over-year related to the previously discussed expenses recognized on subordinated debt redemption and other employee travel and conference related
These increases were partially offset by a $1.3 million reduction in professional services due to increased audit, consulting, and legal costs incurred to support corporate organizational matters leading up to our IPO in 2021, which did not occur in 2022.
Now that we've discussed the overall results of operations, I will now hand it back to James to provide some closing remarks.
Thank you, Heather.
I want to thank everyone for joining us as we discuss the fourth quarter results.
The strength of the bank's financial results is emblematic of a reputation built on trust, speed to serve, and certainly of execution.
which support our client success.
Our financial results are also the result of a truly differentiated customer experience, which powers the demand for five-starb bank.
relationship based services.
We attribute sustained success to our prudent business model and treating customers
with an empathetic spirit, understanding and care.
We are very proud to have earned the trust of those we serve, including our shareholders.
Looking to 2023.
We will be guided by a focus on shareholder value as we monitor market conditions.
We are confident in the company's resilience in any interest rate environment and will continue to execute on our growth strategy and discipline to business practices which we believe will benefit our customers, employees, community and shareholders.
We appreciate your time today. This concludes today's presentation. Now Heather and I will be happy to take any questions you might have.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session.
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Today's first question comes from Gary Tanner with DA Davidson. Please go ahead.
Either good morning, this is Clark right on for Gary.
Last quarter you have mentioned that you think you can grow deposits 2% to 4% higher from loan growth in 2023. Do you continue to believe that that's going to be the case?
Yes, we do. Our expectations about loan growth in 2023 will be around 10%. We expect we'll be able to grow our deposits by 12%, which is about 2% higher.
So we're
confident that we'll be able to do that at this point.
And we look forward to that opportunity.
Great, and then in terms of that loan growth guide you just gave, would that be primarily from the historic areas that you've seen growth in with manufactured housing? Or are you seeing any. There in terms of where originations are coming from.
Now we don't expect any major shifts, deal flow so far for the first part of this, first quarter has really been centered around the manufacturing housing space.
So we expect more of the same.
Thank you all for the back of the queue.
Thank you.
And our next question today comes from Andrew Thoreau with Stevens. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, James, morning, Heather.
Morning Andrew. Maybe just to follow up on the last one to start on deposit growth. I wanted to get a sense for during the fourth quarter how much of the deposit growth was driven by the deposit growth.
brokered CDs or brokered money market funding and then within the 12% deposit growth expectation for 2023 are you assuming any any incremental broker deposits or do you anticipate that 12% to begin of a core deposit growth number?
Yeah, the 4th quarter, I think you right, rightly point out that we funded a lot of our growth through. What I would call.
wholesale opportunities. And so we expect as we move forward into 2023 that we will...
Our growth will be funded by core deposits.
We are hopeful to be able to diminish our wholesale positions, if you will, on the depository side and time will tell. But that's our orientation. Andrew.
We think that we'll be able to achieve that.
Okay, very good. And maybe just on that point, any realignment of kind of lender incentives that have occurred recently or anything changed in terms of
how you're going about gathering deposits that would kind of, it seems like you certainly have confidence in this deposit growth guidance. Just wanted to get a sense of maybe some of the drivers there that lead you to that confidence.
Well I'm glad you bring that up. Yes we have had a realignment of how our incentive programs for our business development team.
much more deposit oriented. The minimum standards are deposit oriented in that half of their production has to be deposits.
Some of our special incentives are all deposit-oriented.
And so.
This is what we pivoted. We started to pivot with respect to our orientation on business development in the fourth quarter. And we're really coming on strong right now with respect to our expectations and also our BRZDEV expectations. We've had a successful January so far in terms of...
new account, a new relationship onboarding, probably going to be our biggest month ever in terms of new relationship onboarding. So we're excited about that.
So that's our orientation yet. We have changed how we pay people
it's going to be much more oriented to deposit generation.
Very good. Okay. I appreciate the color there, James. It's helpful.
If I can move over to the margin just briefly.
Heather, it looks like some of the FHLBs were added pretty late in the quarter. Do you have what the weighted average rate was on the FHLB borrowings?
The right way to call
Those are slightly under 4% for the FHLB borrowings and then our wholesale funding for about 3.88. We do our... FHLB borrowings are very short term in nature. So we only have a week to maybe two weeks at the most outstanding during any period.
So those should have a minimal impact on the margin.
a minimal impact on the margin. Okay.
Understood.
And then do you have the spot deposit cost, either interest bearing or total at the end of the year?
End of the year, I believe we landed it.
Well, I would take December's.
Yeah, December .
Let me take that up for you. One moment. Apologies.
No problem. We can, I'll ask one more really quick for Jay. The CET1 just a little bit less than 9% this quarter. Just wanted to get your thoughts on kind of current capital position, comfortability around the current capital position. And then...
kind of outlook moving into 2023 and where capital targets might be.
Sure.
You know, we're comfortable with our capital position right now. You know, we intend to grow our tangible book value for share in 2023. But we always want to prepare ourselves and be in a good position with respect to raising any additional capital.
So I think that we're oriented that way. We want to be good stewards of our capital position and continue to be mindful of where we are. As we mentioned, our expected growth in 2023 is going to be a lot different from what we have done.
experienced in the past five years. And so we expect we'll be able to build our capital positions in 2023 through internally generated earnings.
Okay, very good. That's it for me and thank you guys for the time today. Andrew, we can close that loop. So our spot cost of funds was 1.17%.
and that's all I'm including CDs as well.
That's for the month of December .
Okay, 1.17 including CDs and the non-interest-bearing deposits.
Yes. Okay, very good. Thank you.
and on a question today, going from Maria KVW. Please comment hard.
Hey, good morning guys.
Good morning, Woody.
I wanted to sort of focus on the growth, the loan growth in the quarter. It came better than what I was expecting and maybe a little bit better than maybe your expectations heading into the quarter. Do you think the growth just sort of represents a pull through in the year or in the year ahead?
new business that happened within the quarter, within the verticals in which we operate in.
And I think it was just more of the same. As I mentioned previously, we have seen a, we expect a decline in originations and loan growth in 2023 and certainly where we are with respect to our pipeline as we entered into 2023 is representative of that notion.
So I wouldn't say any pull through it's just business that was there and
We did it because it was good business.
Yeah, it was really strong growth. Good to see. Maybe moving over to the NIM, I know it'll get a little bit of a pickup from that sub-debt redemption, but sort of excluding the impact from there. I mean, do you think the NIM is under pressure just from the intense deposit competition or
any thoughts on your margin for the expectations in 2023?
Yeah, I think that
every depository institution is under some degree of pressure. We're not immune to that. What we've seen is...
We've had some of our liquidity positions by some of our long-term customers go out of the bank as they invested in Treasury.
securities.
At this point we're unable to match what they can get on those short-term treasuries.
We do our best.
But, you know, we're mindful of the fact that it's difficult for us to...
to match those rates. Having said that, what we're really interested is banking their operating accounts. These are, you know, businesses that have been around for a long time. We expect that liquidity potentially if rates do decline to come back on balance sheet.
But it is, it's a very competitive environment right now. And it's not necessarily with other institutions. It's really with, you know, the big brokerage houses that can, you know, create positions or ladders, if you will, treasury securities ladders for our clients.
We're in great standing with them and we certainly understand what they're trying to accomplish. But we think it's a near-term thing, hopefully.
and we certainly understand what they're trying to accomplish, but we think it's a near-term thing, hopefully. And so we
We definitely recognize the environment which we're in. But having said that, we're also excited about what we're being able to do on the business development side in terms of bringing in core deposits.
Okay, and then last for me is just one of the touch on credit. I mean, you know, all the underlying metrics look super clean. Does Andy doodly are you seeing anything in the market that gives you concern at this time or is it really just a waiting game? I mean, it just has to.
As a follow-up to that, I know you're adopting CISO in the first quarter. Do you expect that to have a material impact to reserve levels with implementation?
Well, let's take the first part of that question first. You know, we're very happy with where we are with respect to our portfolio and how we manage it. You know, our loan portfolio is different than others. We're in some very, well, I should say safer asset classes than other institutions that have a commercial portfolio.
And when you add in storage, which we also think is very safe, we like our position. Our office book, if you will, which I think is the most risky part of any CRE portfolio right now.
I think is around 6%. So I think we're different than the, I'm going to say the average bank in California with respect to the composition of our CRE portfolio.
And we know that those acid classes perform better.
in downturns. Historical data would suggest that they perform a lot better than other CRE classes.
Now, with respect to CECL, Heather, do you want to give some color on that? Sure, yeah. So we have successfully completed a year of parallel runs. We're currently going through with our auditors the final review of our day one adjustment. But we are anticipating a day one adjustment between the reserve, the reserve, the reserve,
And then the reserve for unfunded all in ranging anywhere between six to seven million dollars for an increase For our day one adjustment, which we'll have finalized and ready for Q1.
Got it. All right, thanks for taking my question.
You bet.
And ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask a question, please press star 1. Our next question comes from Andrew with Stevens. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks for the follow-up.
Back on the margin, just a quick one here. I wanted to get a sense for what new production, kind of on a weighted average basis, is coming on the portfolio, just as we think about. I know there's maybe some pressure on the funding cost side and competition there. Just trying to think about what the incremental margin looks like. The market looks like and were thinking we shouldale
Yeah, so for Q4, our overall kind of weighted average rate for new loans forwarded was about 5.54%.
Yeah, so for Q4, our overall kind of weighted average rate for new loans ported was about 6.54%. Definitely a thought to get from
From the rising interest rate environment, for Q1 though we're looking at an overall NIM ranging anywhere from like 3.75 to 3.85.
Yep, you know, our standard pricing is 300 over the 5 year for our typical CRE portfolio.
loan.
And, you know, as the five-year jumps around and whatnot, you could have, you know, as high as... Well, we wanted the same.
you know, 7, 715 to 6 and a half right now, or 6 and 6, almost 6 and three quarters.
So that's what we expect in terms of production where that will land in 2023 and certainly saw that in the fourth quarter. Which resulted in really moving our loan yields up.
Quarter over quarter.
quarter over quarter.
Okay.
And the last one for me...
Just for Heather on the expense base, just working on 2023, can you just remind us the normal seasonality that we might, or I guess, cadence of the expense base throughout the year and then any estimate on clean run rate starting out the year in 1.23?
I really do think if, I know you all stripped out of the $300,000 of subject costs that we ran through Q4, but I really do feel like Q4 is a good proxy for our expenses going forward. As we look for the year, you could estimate about 1.33.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Well, thank you and appreciate everybody being on the call. Five Star Bank continues to execute on strategic initiatives which include growing our verticals and geographies while attracting and retaining talent. Our people, our technology, our operating efficiencies, conservative underwriting practices.
with you again in April to discuss our earnings for the first quarter of 2023.
Have a great day and thank you for listening.
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