Q3 2023 Orion Energy Systems Inc Earnings Call
Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Orion Energy System Festival, 2023, third quarter conference call.
Speaker 3: At this time, all participants are on the listen-only mode. After the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. Today's conference is being recorded.
Speaker 4: I would now like to turn the call over to Bill Jones, Investor Relations.
Speaker 5: Thank you and good morning. Mike Jenkins, Orion's CEO will open today's call to provide perspective on Orion's current business and outlook.
Speaker 6: Pierre Broudin, Orion CFL, will then review the company's Q3 and here today results financial position and other matters and then we will take investor questions.
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Speaker 11: It matters that the company has described in its press release issued this morning and in its SEC filings. Except as described therein, the company disclaims any obligation to update forward-looking statements that are made as of today's date.
Speaker 12: Reconciliation of certain non- GAAP financial metrics to the corresponding GAAP measures are also provided in today's press release and available in the investor relations section over Ryan's website. Now I'll turn the call over to Mike Jenkins. Mike?
Speaker 13: Thank you, Bill. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining our call today.
Speaker 14: As previewed in January , our third quarter results continued to reflect the impact of customer delays in the initiation of several large LED lighting projects.
Speaker 15: Specifically, the previously announced $4 million-plus project for a long-time automotive customer started more slowly than anticipated in Q3, but is now accelerating in Q4. And the start of a $9 million Department of Defense project shifted from third quarter of this year into first quarter of 2024.
Speaker 16: As mentioned previously, these projects are fully booked and we look forward to their full activation and completion.
Speaker 17: We also saw some softness in our electrical contractor distribution channel, which seems largely due to the softening economic environment.
Speaker 18: We also experienced a modest decrease in contribution from our energy service company or ESCO channel in the corridor.
Speaker 19: The ESCO softness is more related to project timing as longer-term opportunities continue to gain traction in this channel, which is focused on delivering both environmental and energy efficiency benefits and customers.
Speaker 20: We have been working hard with our ESCO partners and have built a strong pipeline of opportunities that should drive significant positive growth in fiscal year 2024.
Speaker 21: Offsetting these factors was a better than expected contribution from our new EV charging solutions business and steady growth in our maintenance services business, largely due to the two acquisitions we completed over the past 12 months.
Speaker 22: We reiterate our fiscal 2023 revenue guidance for the balance of the year and reconfirmed our outlook for revenue growth of at least 30% in fiscal 2024.
Speaker 23: Our fiscal 2024 outlook reflects a growing array of significant retail, logistics, public sector and automotive projects in our LED lighting pipeline as well as strong growth in our EV charging solutions and electrical maintenance services business.
Speaker 24: We plan to provide more color on our 2024 Outlook in early June when we report year-end results.
Speaker 25: Overall, we are seeing growing interest in our expanded array of products and services that meet rising demand for energy savings, environmental benefits, safety, workplace and efficiency enhancements, and improved customer experiences.
Speaker 26: We are pleased with the reaction from our customers and our growing value proposition of multiple platforms that help our customers with their energy and carbon footprint reduction goals.
Speaker 27: Leveraging our unique turnkey design, build, install, and maintenance solutions, along with industry leading customer service, we are able to deliver substantial value, particularly to large or regional organizations that manage hundreds and sometimes thousands of locations.
Speaker 28: These characteristics provide Orion a unique competitive advantage that creates complementary paths to growth both by expanding the base of customers we serve and the array of solutions we are able to offer.
Speaker 29: To lead our internal sales efforts, we recently recruited a new Executive Vice President of an organization called the Socal Lab.
Speaker 30: As we continue to evolve as an organization, we are focused on building greater value for our customers through expanded product and solution offerings.
Speaker 31: coupled with execution models to best meet their needs. We have talked about the strategic value that Asco has bring to Orion, and Ken comes to us from a super Asco and understands the world of project business.
Speaker 32: He is also very familiar with multiple go-to-market models and his sales management acumen will be an important asset supporting our future growth strategies.
While our history has been enlightening, we have expanded into new complimentary areas, including electrical and lighting maintenance services and electric vehicle charging solutions.
We believe that our competitive advantage in customer service and turnkey project management complement these new businesses.
We know from direct experience that many of our customers have specific interest in one or more of these areas and therefore they build on our customers for life commitment.
We work to educate our customers on the total cost of ownership of lighting and other energy systems so that they can truly appreciate the substantial long-term ROI advantages and reduction in CO2 emissions provided by Orion's high quality energy efficient products.
We have three primary paths to market, which include our ESCO channel with partners who focus on delivering energy efficiency benefits to their customers.
ESCO's value, the industry leading, energy efficiency, and high quality and reliability of our LED fixtures made with the highest quality component.
Second, we serve the Electrical Contractor Channel, providing a range of lighting solutions to meet a variety of needs and price points with a focus on new construction and agricultural markets in their local geographic areas.
The third, we have our national account group that is focused on developing long-term relationships with major national and regional customers across a range of industries and helping them to address their complex lighting IoT solutions, maintenance or EV charging needs.
To differentiate ourselves in adding value for these large enterprises, we are developing turnkey capabilities for executing lighting maintenance and EV charging solutions.
From start to finish, all from one centralized Orion point of contact and accountability.
True turnkey solutions are highly complex to execute as they involve input and coordination across the entire organization. From initial site audits to design and planning to product development and customization to product manufacturing in our facility in Wisconsin through to shipping and onsite subscriptions, we can performing them Wattsanas determined highly balanced and
installation and system commissioning in hundreds or even thousands of customer locations.
We also offer customers ongoing lighting and light electrical maintenance support tailored to their unique needs.
Now, turning to our new growth opportunity in EV charging solutions.
Obviously, the electrical vehicle market is a high growth area with EVs expected to become nearly a quarter of new vehicle sales by 2025 and continue to grow from there. This trend is generating demand for EV charging stations at stores, businesses, schools, offices, housing complexes, healthcare, and other facilities.
The ability to charge your electric vehicle will become an increasingly important component of high-quality customer experience for many, and also important to attract and retain employees and visitors.
$5 billion in federal and state funding under the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure or NeviAC has been authorized to support EV adoption and infrastructure over the next five years and many states are also supporting EVs in addition.
For example, in Massachusetts, the Utility Commission recently approved approximately $400 million in funding over the next four years to support EV related infrastructure.
Other states are reviewing and implementing similar programs in addition to the NEVY funds.
Our Voltrek subsidiary is well positioned to benefit from these and other project funding sources.
We are currently working to integrate Vultric solutions into our organization and adding personnel and infrastructure to expand their reach.
This includes building out a nationwide group of qualified electrical contractors to execute EV charging installations or broader rollouts for larger organizations. We recently announced a significant project providing level 3 DC fast charge infrastructure for an electric school bus pilot program in Massachusetts.
This project is broken into phases and we announced the commencement of the first phase to support charging systems for 20 buses out of a fleet of a possible 145.
The first phase of this project should provide Orion revenue of approximately 1.5 million.
To support our growing base of product and service revenues or service offerings, we launched a new website in December .
The objective was to enhance the site's value and ease of use for customers and partners.
Initial feedback has been good and we are already seeing higher overall website traffic and more targeted lead generation benefits from the overhaul. We encourage all of you to check it out.
Before I turn the call over to Payer, I wanted to make it clear to our shareholders that despite an anticipated 50 million dollar year-over-year decline in our business from our largest customer and online retailer through the first nine months of fiscal 23, the balance of Orion's business grew by approximately 9% year-to-day.
This confirms that the investments we are making to diversify and grow our business are working.
though we are still in the early stages of integrating the new businesses and building out systems, management, sales and marketing and cross-selling initiatives.
We expect these segments will represent a significant portion of Orion's revenue moving forward in fiscal 24 and beyond, both with project work as well as a growing base of recurring maintenance revenue.
We look forward to continued progress sourcing significant projects in our national account business, so the timing of these larger projects can be impacted by customer variables or other factors outside of our control.
We continue to build out a base of productive ESCO partners and a pipeline of new product sales opportunities, including a few seven and eight-figure opportunities, some of which we expect to initiate in the first half of fiscal 2024.
Reflecting these factors, we are excited about our growth prospects for the next several years.
Now I will pass the call to Per Brodine to discuss our financials and specifics or our financial outlook for the balance of fiscal 23 and 24.
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Thank you, Mike.
The physical 23 third quarter revenue was 20.3 million, versus 30.7 million in Q3, 22, and 17.6 million in Q2, 23.
Through the first nine months of fiscal 23, Revenue was 55.8 million versus 102.3 million in the prior year period.
As previously discussed, the current year has been largely impacted by the wind down of the multi-year project with our largest customer, which had an $11 million impact on the third quarter.
As Mike mentioned,
excluding revenue from our largest customer and a large global online retailer. Your today's revenue increased 9% over the comparable prior year period, reflecting our success in diversifying the growth drivers of our business.
Our gross profit percentage decreased to 23.6% in Q3-23 compared to 24.9% in Q3-22.
and 25.3% in Q2-23.
The decrease principally reflects lower absorption of overhead costs on reduced revenue and a higher mix of service revenue which operates at lower margins.
Go smart in for our EV business outperformed the overall average.
Third quarter fiscal 23 operating expenses were 9.4 million versus 6.3 million in the year-go period.
The increase was principally because of 1.9 million of acquisition costs and higher general and administrative expenses associated with the inclusion of the bull trek and stay-like businesses in our results this year.
The acquisition costs incurred in Q3 include $1.5 million toward the accrual of the Voltrek earn-out and transaction costs associated with the Voltrek deal closing.
Orion reported a net loss of $24.1 million or $0.75 per share in Q3-23, compared to net income of $1.1 million or $0.04 per share in Q3-22, primarily due to our establishing evaluation allowance against the company's deferred tax asset.
This non-cash entry does not impact our ability to offset future taxable income through existing and a wells.
However, it will result in effective income tax provision rates that do not reflect statutory rates.
Importantly, cash flow from operations was $1.3 million in Q3-23, reflecting a benefit from the timing of accounts payable and accrued expenses partially offset by other working capital items.
As of quarter end, networking capital was $24.5 million, including inventory investments of $19.3 million, which includes finished goods associated with our large automotive project.
the addition of Voltrek inventory, and the balance of inventory intended to support product sales volume increases in the coming quarters.
Orion had quarter-end liquidity of 19.4 million, including cash of 8.1 million and 11.3 million of availability on our credit facility.
This compares with 23.7 million of liquidity at the end of Q2 23.
This compares with $23.7 million of liquidity at the end of Q2-23 prior to the funding of the Voltrek acquisition. logitech®
As of the close of the third quarter, we had $5 million drawn on our revolving debt facility, the proceeds of which were used to fund the Voltrec acquisition.
As you review our 10Q, you will note that we have begun reporting Voltrek as a separate
Please note that the earnings reflected in that segment data include the allocation of some corporate overhead costs that are not incremental to Orion.
The Voltrek business was EBITDA positive excluding those allocations.
Turning to our outlook.
Turning to our outlook. We expect
Further sequential revenue growth in Q423, which would result in our strongest revenue quarter of the year.
Accordingly, we have reiterated our Fiscal 23 revenue outlook of between $77 and $80 million.
While we expect an overall use of cash in Q4, we believe our cash and liquidity position will remain healthy at year-end, providing us a solid position to support growth initiatives across the business in fiscal 2024.
As for M&A, while we continue to develop a pipeline of future opportunities, our near-term focus is on integrating our recent acquisitions, ensuring their success and investing in internal growth initiatives.
And with that, I'll turn it back to the operator for the Q&A session.
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It's coming from Eric Stein of Crack Healing and your line is open.
Hi Mike, hi there. So I think I'm going to focus on Voltrack here for my free, but maybe first could you just provide more color on the build out there sales and service.
infrastructure, maybe the timing and milestones we should look for. And when do you think you will have that in place and have the appropriate market reach that you're looking for?
Great question Eric. We're actively working on that now so as we were adding to the team as we speak and in our budget for this coming year we we certainly plan to continue that and accelerate that. I would say that we look to be at a different level of capacity.
probably somewhere around by certainly the second quarter of our fiscal year, and be fully active in cross-selling activities at that time.
Got it. And then maybe a follow up. When you think about how Voltrac plays out.
How do you see the end market breaking down? I know you're your first award or at least the one that you have announced is an electric school bus pilot program, but I also know that specifically some of your national account customers
really were kind of pushing you to get into this area or very interested in you getting in this area. So I mean do you think this is more on the school bus side, do you expect it to be more national accounts or how should that play out going forward?
I would, yeah, another good question. I would say all of the above. Voltrec has got great momentum right now with a lot of municipal work, fleet work, which the bus project is an example really of both government as well as fleet. So we plan to expand that. And then as I referenced earlier in terms of the cross-selling, that's really where we get the leverage and the synergy from our existing base of customers. And again, all of them really are considering at this point their strategy for EV moving forward.
right to get some color.
Sure, sure. Well I would say that's part of the infrastructure that we're further building out. I mean, Voltrec has been very strong and understands the process as well to access those types of funds, so certainly as we look to scale the business we'll be adding resources in that area as well.
and maybe a little more color for your Eric. You know, that comment we made about the funding in Massachusetts, you know, is in the backyard of Bulltrek. So they're very tied into that piece of it. And then on a federal basis, we're obviously continuing to look at that, as Mike said. Insert animation on the ? ön.
be a little more color for your Eric. That comment we made about the funding and Massachusetts, you know, was in the backyard of Bull Trek. So they're very tied into that piece of it. And then on federal basis, where obviously, continuing to look at that, as Mike said. OK, thank you. Thank you.
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Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. One moment while we prepare for the next question. Our next question will be coming from Alex Ringo of Be Ryle. Your line is open. Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen.
Yeah, I let him up. Good my good questions here. Any way to quantify the EV charging station backlog or pipeline or...
Sort of market slash bidding opportunities that you see in the intermediate term.
I think nothing specific at this point, I think maybe the best way to think about it, just, you know, for some context is when we announced the Bull Trek deal in October , we said we expected them to do about $3,5 million of revenue in the second half of the year.
On today's call, we said that they've since the exceeded our expectations in the third quarter, coming in at about $2.8 million of revenue. We expect them to continue to operate at that level and above. So they'll be exiting the year at a nice rate.
and then given the infrastructure that we're adding, we expect to see significant growth above that in the coming year.
Yeah.
That's excellent. And then also as it relates to your ESCO business, any way to kind of frame.
the size of the business today and what the backlog or pipeline opportunities could look like over the intermediate term.
As I referenced in the call, we have been working very hard with our ESCO partners and have a number of very large projects in the pipe. Those projects are in the 7th to possibly 8th figure range that will initiate in the 1st half of next year.
in terms of total backlog or total pipe, we don't really share that, but I can tell you that what we're seeing is a growing pipeline on a year-over-year basis with some very large projects.
But.
Very helpful. Thank you very much, gentlemen.
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I thank you. Several questions. I'll ask my three and get back in line regarding your, your large customer, I think it's home depot. When goes- I mentioned a few wind- does the decline from this customer anniversary and what are the prospects?
of a return of some of the business where these deferrals
of needed improvements and conversions for them, was it saturation and completion of the roadmap, or was it lost market share to a competitor? Andrew, we say that we are pretty much at the point of having anniversary.
for those retail outlets.
So, we've accomplished that and I think as we've said on previous calls that there are additional projects that we continue to do for them and we also are doing maintenance work for the company, for that customer. So, we expect them to be significant.
customer in the future. We think that and have said that they may be in the $20 million range per year in the next several years. So that's a little bit of context of where they are. It's not that
necessarily any work went away. It was a very defined program to retrofit the indoor lighting in their stores. So it's kind of a saturation of the completion of the project and you have a kind of relationship in business.
Okay. The second question is on the revenue delays that you refer to. Can you provide a little more context or color on the delays in the DOD and automotive industry projects? Are they the same causes?
It sounds like they might not be and what are those causes or what are the big issues in each?
Sure. On the automotive front it was really around project timing. We work with this automotive company. We work with a lot of their labor and so it's a jointly scheduled and those schedules there were some conflicts in it on their side.
so that caused some some delays. So it was not related to any any macro factors outside of their own dynamics around their labor. On the DoD side, this is a very large complicated project. We are part of a broader project on this for the Department of Defense.
that overall project has experienced some delays. So again, it's just the dynamics that are unique to that situation.
And maybe one tractor on a bigger project.
That is correct. I don't know if that has completed my three. I do have other questions. I'll back into the queue if you need me to.
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The next question is coming from the mail of HC-1, right? Your line is open.
Thank you. Good morning, guys. Amen. So with respect to World Trade, you know, now that you have run that business for a few months.
Mike.
How should we think about the potential operating leverage? You did mention you have some synergies and leverage opportunities on the customer side. But on the operating side, how should we think about operating leverage for that business?
Well, I think, you know, clearly, this is an investment year for us. We're investing heavily in the business. We still think it'll be an EBITDA-positive business this year, and we think we're looking for it to rapidly scale. As we continue to look out in the horizon.
We'll start getting more and more operating fixed cost leverages. We move forward and continue to grow the top line.
Okay and you know does the EV charging opportunity now expose you to opportunities in storage etc as well or are you not sort of entering or not looking to enter that you know segment.
Well, we're not actively in that segment now, but it is definitely a tangential area and could be part of a broader solution. So it may, you know, it's something for us to look at as we move forward.
okay just last one for me is there any inventory etc that you guys are sitting on related to the DoD and auto project push-outs?
that there is a fair amount of inventory for the DOD project, the way that project, I'm sorry, the automotive project, that project is underway, and the way that project works is that the DOD is doing a lot of work to make sure that the project is being developed and that it's being developed and that it's being used
We actually recognize revenue associated with the service over time, but some of the product does not get recognized until later in the project. So there is a
over a million dollars of inventory just on the books for that project that hasn't yet been recognized as revenue and cost of sales. So that's one piece of it. And then another piece I mentioned is you know there is the voltrek.
inventory that was added in the current year. You can see, you will see in the 10Q, where you'll see the opening balance sheet broken out for you in that footnote, the acquisition footnote that when we acquired Voltrac, they had about $880,000 of inventory. We don't separately disclose the
1231 balance, but that will give you at least some context of magnitude for inventory in that business, but there's not meaningful inventory on hand for the DOD project at this time.
31 balance, but that will give you at least some context of magnitude for inventory in that business, but there's not meaningful inventory on hand for the DOD project at this time. Thank you for that.
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We have follow-up questions coming from Andrew Shapiro of Lawndale. Thank you.
Your line is open.
Oh, hi, I didn't know if you had some of my name you cut out. So a little follow up on the DOD, a questions your DOD project.
Is it one of your first as a subcontractor for the DOD and is there a potential pipeline of additional projects?
To come based on whatever theme that is driving this D. O. D. a project.
Yeah, great, great question, Andrew. Yeah, no, this is not our first project working for the DOD. And we are working with what we call Super Asco, who has the prime contract, and then we're, we have worked with this Super Asco on other DOD projects.
There are some others that are in the pipe that we're working with with other super-ascos as well. So that's really one of our core models of working with the DOD is working with ESCO partners. And then you go on, I'm sorry, didn't mean to catch up. Yeah, I was just going to clarify, we do occasionally and...
have historically done some work directs. The gut, we do have the ability to work direct on government contracts. Some, we do direct some, we do as a sub. Yeah, we have a GSA. Thank you.
Okay.
And some questions around the Vultric acquisition and forecast supplementing what others have asked here. You have a bunch of costs.
that are in this quarter's results that you've called out.
to be part of the having a quiet bull track. Of the cost that you have there that you called out, how much or what's the range and dollar value of those expenses in the quarter that you would consider one time?
related to the acquisition rather than an incremental ramp up that is our ongoing expenses.
I'll say the high level way to think about the items we put in the acquisition related cost line are things that we don't believe.
How
Part related to the ongoing operations of Voltreck, and it's either part of closing the deal, which is the majority of the costs incurred away from the, burnout accrual in this third quarter.
So the parts, you know, anything that relates to their ongoing operations would be, would not be included in that line, but would be related to closing the transaction, accruing the burnout or, you know, some integration costs which are not.
a big portion of that. And just to clarify one thing for the audience on the earn-out, the $1 million we accrued in the third quarter, if their performance continues at the level it is, we would expect.
to record an additional $1.5 million accrual.
in the fourth quarter of our fiscal year, and then the expectation would be that that would be paid sometime mid to late summer. Thank you for your levar ???ocation.
Okay, so to be clear, then it sounds like the whole line item that you've broken out and called acquisition costs. Those are all one-timers. Okay, so to be clear, then it sounds like the whole line item that you've broken out
I would say yes with the caveat that some accountants would argue about the definition of one time. Okay. All right. And then on that earn out, is the maximum earn out $3 million?
within this current fiscal year.
How many additional years is there in earn-out measurement and subsequent payments?
It's a three-year earn-out. This would be year one and ending at the end of our fiscal year for the first year. So as I've indicated, I believe if we continue on the pace we're on.
We believe that will be earned. That could be here is again the next fiscal year. Then there's a third year.
in what will be our fiscal 26-5, I'm sorry, the home 25. And how much is the maximum to pay in each of the next two years?
There's three years current year, 3.5 million in the second year and 4 million in the third year.
There's also a cumulative kicker at the end of the third year under which she could.
earn an additional four million up to an additional four million dollars.
Okay, and the cast for pain ease is based on revenues. EBITDAI, EBITDAI, what's the metric? It's an EBITDAI metric.
Okay, and you're adding a bunch of people to build out the sales and service infrastructure.
required to extend Vultrix reach across the U.S. from its current focus in the Northeast is your quotas.
This people hire, is this primarily internal and fixed cost or outsourced and variable?
Well, it's a combination of both. You know, we execute the model through independent contractors in terms of site installation, but the internal resources are really on the project management side, the sourcing of opportunities, and then the project management side of the business.
Okay, and are all of those costs then allocable towards the Voltrich side of the house and built into them the measurement of the EBITDA.
That is correct.
Okay, excellent.
The other cost.
that are referenced or referred to here.
I think it's like one-time investment costs or most of them ongoing and fixed costs.
I'm sorry I didn't quite follow that question. Could you repeat that? I think in the text of your press release and in your script, you refer to people and other cause.
The other costs that are being incurred to build things out and the infrastructure out are they are they you know one time shots Maybe cap capitalized or are they ongoing?
Yeah, this is predominantly adding staff and people to do the work that I just spoke about on the sourcing and the project management side. The infrastructure is any infrastructure expenses relatively minimal.
Okay, great. Thank you. I'll back out.
Okay, great. Thank you all back out.
Back on to today's Q&A session. At this time, I would like to turn the call back to my Jeekens for closing remarks.
That concludes today's Q&A session. At this time, I would like to turn the call back to Mike Jenkins for closing remarks.
Great, thank you operator. As many of you know, today marks my first time with this call as CEO . I certainly look forward to meeting and engaging with all of you and our other state co-holders in the coming months and quarters as we execute our growth plan.
If you have any questions or comments in the interim or would like to schedule a call with management, please contact our IR team. Whose information is included on today's press release.
Thank you all again for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you soon. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining and enjoy the rest of your day.
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