Q4 2022 CBIZ Inc Earnings Call
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Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us for the <unk> fourth quarter and full year 2022 results conference call.
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Joining us for today's call are Jerry <unk>, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ware Grove, Chief Financial Officer, I will now turn the call over to Jerry for his opening remarks Jerry.
Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us on today's call, we're proud to share our fourth quarter and full year results for 2022, and our outlook for this year.
Last year on this call we discussed our record performance and results for 2021.
We are pleased to report that our momentum continued throughout 2022.
From nearly every measurable perspective, our results for last year were exceptional and at or near our strongest performance in recent history.
Most notably for the full year.
Total revenue was up 27, 8%.
Canada revenue grew by 10, 9% adjusted EPS was up by 28, 3% adjusted.
Adjusted EBITDA improved 28, 1%.
Our stock price increased by 19, 8% and we made two sizable acquisitions, adding over $154 million in annualized revenue.
At <unk>, we always strive to achieve success by design and our full year results are the product of the strategic plan that we set for our business over five years ago, and then diligently executed by our devoted team of over 6500 professionals.
Our results are also a product of the fundamental attributes of our business.
Which includes a combination of the essential recurring services that we provide to our clients on a regular basis.
Supplemented by a number of more project based discretionary services.
Also we serve a diverse client base that include companies of all sizes doing business across our broad geographic footprint and representing a wide range of industries.
Those attributes make us less susceptible to market conditions that may disproportionately impact businesses of certain sizes or industries.
Or that are located in specific geographies.
And it's based on those attribute said, we entered 2020 to confidence in our ability to continue to perform well regardless of the business climate.
While the year presented a number of challenges for many businesses, including labor shortages increased wages rising interest rates supply chain shortages inflation and threat of a recession. Our strong performance throughout the year is a testament to the strength of our business model and the confidence in the resilience of the clients that we serve.
And while we expect that 2023 May also presented a more challenging business climate for many we remain equally confident in the resilience of both our business and our clients, which will enable us to perform relatively strong as we move forward.
As we demonstrated over the last year or a central services help our clients to run their businesses and to take advantage of opportunities regardless of the business climate.
We are also uniquely positioned to help them with services and solutions to help navigate emerging challenges.
Now turning to the performance of our individual divisions.
Our financial services Division had an especially strong year with a record 37, 6% increase in total revenue when compared to 2021.
This double digit growth was driven by strong demand for all three major service lines.
That being our core accounting and tax services, our advisory services, and our government health care consulting services.
Our growth within this group also reflects our ability to continue to improve pricing with our clients.
This allowed us to respond to wage pressures and a highly competitive labor market.
We also saw remarkable traction with many of our moored bespoke services that we offer including our work to support our clients in securing the employee retention tax credit.
As we demonstrated through the early days of the pandemic. Our teams are always proactively identifying new ways to support our clients and guide them through emerging opportunities.
In the second half of the year. We also saw the investments focused on attracting and retention of talent yield results as we accelerated hiring to drive an increase in much needed capacity.
Within our advisory services each of our significant service lines experienced strong demand for bear more discretionary and project based services that we provide to our clients, which created opportunities to drive rate increases and value billing.
Our government health care consulting business also experienced nice growth through both new project work and the expansion of existing projects.
We were also able to drive some pricing improvement.
Which is a more complex process given that much of this work is structured through multiyear contracts and published rates.
Finally throughout the year, we did see the return of some work that had been on hold or delayed due to the pandemic.
During our quarterly calls throughout 2022, we talked about the importance and impact of a number of multiyear investments that we've been making to improve our processes tools and training aimed at enhancing client and team member experience and maximizing profitability.
The cumulative impact of these investments as evidenced in our results.
As we look ahead in 2023, we will build on these efforts with a keen focus on innovation that includes how we use data to better serve our clients.
And adopt automation and improve processes to drive even greater efficiency.
Now turning to our benefits and insurance Division, where we also experienced strong growth and performance across every major service line.
Resulting in organic revenue growth of eight 3% for the year.
While the key drivers of that growth very slightly within the four major service lines. All benefited from strong sales and continued favorable client retention rates.
One service line that is worth noting is our retirement investment services business were approximately $25 million of bear revenues tied to assets under management at.
As one would expect those fees were down last year due to the performance of the broader stock market.
Despite this the team was able to grow revenues by increasing fees for other services, improving sales and continuing strong client retention rates.
We are extremely pleased with the performance of our business throughout 2022.
While it's difficult to predict the business climate in 2023, and how it may impact demand for certain of our more discretionary services base.
Based on our strong financial performance over the past two years. The continued high demand for our services that we've experienced in recent months the investments to accelerate growth that we've made in the business and our access to capital we will once again be providing financial guidance for the year.
With this I will turn it over to Ware Grove, our Chief financial Officer to provide more specific details on our financial performance for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2022, and our thoughts on guidance for 2023 were.
Thank you Jerry and good morning, everyone let.
Let me take a few minutes to talk about key highlights of the fourth quarter and full year 2022 results that we released this morning as.
As Jerry commented the strong momentum throughout our business continued through the fourth quarter.
As we talk about results in 'twenty 'twenty to bear in mind, we are focused on talking about adjusted results that serve to eliminate first year nonrecurring acquisition related costs that are associated with the marks pan with acquisition that closed in January of 2022.
There is a schedule in the release, we issued this morning that serves to outline and reconcile those items for you bridging from GAAP reported results of $2.01 per share for the full year to an adjusted $2.13 per share.
We are pleased that marks patents recorded performance in line with both revenue and pre tax contribution expectations for the year.
The integration of operations has proceeded as planned.
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During the fourth quarter and for the 12 months. This year in connection with marks patents, we incurred approximately $1.2 million and $10 $5 million, respectively of one time first year nonrecurring transaction and integration costs.
These nonrecurring costs represent approximately approximate to two pennies per share for the quarter or <unk> 15 per share for the 12 months.
In addition in the third quarter of 2022, we recorded a gain of $2.4 million related to a sale of a book of business in our property and casualty line of service.
There's $2.4 million gain is recorded as other income and represents approximately three pennies per share for the 12 months.
A year ago in the second quarter of 'twenty, one we adjusted results to eliminate the impact of the $30 5 million dollar U P. M. C settlement cost plus we eliminated the $6 3 million dollar gain on the sale of operations that was recorded in the second quarter last year.
On an adjusted basis in 2020, one we reported 19 cents per share for the fourth quarter loss and we reported $1 66 per share for the 12 months.
With these items in mind and with a view towards presented meaningful comparable information eliminating the impact of these items adjusted earnings per share. This year is $2.13 up 28, 3% compared with adjusted earnings per share of $1 66 last year.
To recap highlights for 'twenty two.
Total revenue in the fourth quarter increased by $52.2 million up 21, 5% over fourth quarter a year ago.
Fourth quarter same unit revenue was up $24 $5 million or up by 10.1% with acquisitions, contributing 27.7 million or 11.4% to growth compared with last year.
For the full year total revenue grew by $307.1 million up 27, 8% compared with 2021.
Same unit revenue for the 12 months grew by a $119 $9 million are up by 10.9% with acquisitions contributing $187 2 million or 16, 9% to revenue growth for the 12 months this year compared with last year.
Within financial services for the fourth quarter total revenue grew by $46 million were up by 29, 5%.
Same unit revenue for the fourth quarter was up 11.3% or up by $17 $7 million with strong revenue growth throughout core accounting services Advisory services and government health care consulting services.
For the 12 months total revenue within financial services grew by $276 million up by 37.6% and same unit revenue for the 12 months was up by 11, 9%.
Within benefits and insurance total revenue in the fourth quarter of 'twenty two grew by six 6% and same unit revenue grew by seven 4%.
And for the full year total revenue grew by seven 7% with same unit revenue growing by eight 3%, we continue to see strong client retention and new client production.
The investment we've made in recent years to hire and increase the number of new business producers continues to gain traction.
We remain committed to further enhancing growth capabilities within the benefits and insurance group and we will continue to make investments in hiring and developing additional producers and 2023.
Adjusted EBITDA considering these same adjustments was $191 million for the 12 months. This year up 28, 1% over adjusted EBITDA of $148 $5 million a year ago.
Without going into detail during this call a table reconciling reported GAAP numbers to these adjusted earnings per share and adjusted EBITDA numbers that I'm referencing is included in the earnings release issued this morning.
During 2022 after seeing artificially low levels of certain expenses through the pandemic, we talked about the level of health care benefits travel and entertainment expense and marketing expenses that are normalizing in the aftermath of the pandemic.
These expenses, most notably travel and entertainment expense have leveled out at approximately 100 basis points lower than pre pandemic levels in 2019.
For the full year of 22. However, these expenses represented a 110 basis point headwind impact to margin on income before tax compared with the prior year.
Comparing year over year adjusted results for the 12 months ended December this year pre tax income margin was flat at 10, 6% for both 'twenty, two and 2021 the.
The expense items I described represented 110 basis points headwinds for the 12 months. This year, we have successfully leveraged other costs aside from the intentional increase in tea and other increased expenses in the short list of items I mentioned.
We will continue to say that over time, we expect to achieve a 20 to 50 basis point annual increase in pre tax margin.
As you look at the track record in recent years, our performance has been near the higher end of this range driving annual growth in earnings per share of approximately 18%.
As always details of the impact of accounting for gains and losses in our nonqualified deferred compensation plan are outlined in the release because we are comparing a period in 2021 with capital markets gains compared with this year with capital markets losses, there is a significant impact to the GAAP reported number.
As you look at both gross margin and operating income and you can find this information noted in our release.
As a reminder, pre tax income margin is not impacted by this factor.
Cash flow from operations continues to be solid in 2022 we amended our unsecured credit facility to increase availability from $400 million to $600 million and extended the maturity by five years.
At December 31.
22, the balance outstanding on the newly Upsized 600 million dollar facility was $265 $7 million with about $320 million of unused capacity.
In 2022 we used approximately $108 million for acquisition purposes, including earn out payments on acquisitions that were closed in previous years.
With our Somerset transaction, which closed earlier this month combined with estimated earn out payments on previously closed transactions.
We expect to use approximately 91 and a half million dollars in twenty-three 50.
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$33 $7 million, and 2025, and approximately $6 $8 million in 'twenty 'twenty six.
Since the end of 'twenty 19, we've closed 16 transactions and have deployed approximately $319 million of capital for acquisition purposes, including the recently announced Somerset transaction plus earn out payments over that time.
During the fourth quarter of 2022, we repurchased approximately 1.2 million shares of our common stock.
For the full year, we repurchased approximately two 8 million shares in the open market at a cost of approximately $122 million.
Since December 31st under a 10 B program, we have repurchased an additional 75000 shares to date in 2023.
To recap repurchase activity in recent years since the end of 2019, we have repurchased a total of approximately 8.2 million shares representing about 15% of shares outstanding compared to the end of 2019.
Approximately $277 million of capital has been used towards this repurchase activity.
Over that time.
With leverage of approximately one five times adjusted EBITDA at December 31, 20 to the balance sheet is strong. This provides plenty of capacity to continue with strategic acquisitions and provides the flexibility to continue share repurchase activity.
After the closing of the Somerset transaction in February this year, we estimate our leverage at approximately 1.6 times EBITDA.
Our highest priority for the use of capital continues to be for strategic acquisitions with our strong cash flow and strong balance sheet. We also have the flexibility to actively repurchase shares.
Earlier. This month, we filed an 8-K announcing that the board has renewed the annual authorization to repurchase up to 5 million shares.
Every year at a minimum we always want to repurchase the number of shares necessary to avoid the dilutive impact of new shares issued for acquisitions or for equity grants and we intend to continue to actively repurchase shares.
The 1% excise tax on net repurchases is new this year and we are continuing to assess this added cost but at this time, we intend to continue to actively repurchase shares.
Days sales outstanding on December 31, 22 was 74 days compared with 71 days a year ago bad debt expense for 22 was eight basis points of revenue compared to 28 basis points a year ago.
Depreciation and amortization for the fourth quarter was $8.2 million versus $7 $2 million last year.
Full year, depreciation and amortization was $32 $9 million in 'twenty, two versus $27.1 million last year for.
For 2023, we are projecting depreciation and amortization expense of approximately $35 $9 million.
Capital spending in the fourth quarter was $2.6 million and was $8 $6 million for the 12 months and.
In 'twenty two 'twenty three capital spending may increase to approximately $15 million to $18 million, primarily as a result of facility tenant improvements, including the new headquarter space. We will occupy later this year.
As a reminder, see theirs is a tenant leasing our space in the new headquarters facility. We are not an owner of this real estate.
With a rapid rise in interest rates during the second half of 2022 we've seen an impact interest expense. This past year and we will see further increases in 'twenty two 'twenty three as we compare the relatively low borrowing rates in 'twenty two to current rates.
The effective tax rate for the 12 months in 2022 was 25, 5% up from 23, 8% a year ago.
The increase in effective tax rate is primarily attributable to a higher level of income distribution within higher state tax rate jurisdictions, such as New York or California to name a few.
Effective in February of this year, we announced the acquisition of Cymer set a financial services firm based in Indianapolis in 'twenty two 'twenty three we expect to record approximately $52 million of revenue from this newly acquired operation.
And 'twenty three we expect to record a level of initial transaction and closing costs plus first year nonrecurring integration costs equal to approximately five cents per share in 'twenty 23 and.
In a similar manner to reporting for remarks, Pat acquisition related costs. This past year, we will report an adjustment to eliminate these costs from GAAP reported results to report adjusted results for the Somerset transaction and 2023.
We reported record high growth rates and revenue and earnings per share in 'twenty, two and we were pleased to project further continued growth beyond these levels for 2020 three.
For the full year of 2023 we expect revenue growth in a range of 8% to 10% over the $1.4 billion in 'twenty, two and we expect adjusted earnings per share growth of 11% to 13% over adjusted results of $2 13 per share reported in 'twenty two.
At this early stage of the year. There is an element of prudent caution in these 23 guidance numbers, we're very alert to potential macroeconomic risks ahead, but the health of the business continues to be very strong the recurring in our central nature of our core services provide stability to our outlook.
The earnings release this morning outlined an expected increase in our tax rate for 'twenty three.
The 28% up from 25.5% in 2022.
There are several factors driving this increase the tax reform Act enacted back in 2017 provided grandfathered benefits that are expiring in 'twenty three in connection with stock compensation expense and that's where a result, this will result in higher rates for.
For 2023.
In addition in locations such as New York, and California, where we're experiencing strong growth higher state tax rates. In these jurisdictions are driving an increase in the expected state tax rates.
A third factor there was a small impact as a result of the temporary stimulus passed during the pandemic that allowed 100% deductibility of business meals and that is now reverting to 50% in 2023.
Looking at the expected tax rate of 28% beyond 2023 we do not see further increases ahead of the.
The increased rate, we expect for 'twenty three we'll have a one time year over year impact on the net income after tax and reported earnings per share.
And 2023 of the expected earnings per share impact is approximately eight cents per share and the growth in EPS. Excluding this impact would be within a range of 15% to 17% over the adjusted $2.13 for 2022.
Normalizing the 'twenty three outlook for the expected increase tax rate. Once we are past this year over year increase in twenty-three tells you the underlying longer term growth potential for earnings per share remains very high and in fact over the recent five year time span the compound average growth rate in earnings per share.
It has been in excess of 18%.
As with many others the rapid rise in interest rates, we saw in the second half of 2022 also presents headwinds in 'twenty three.
Consistent with our track record of achieving this 18% growth in earnings per share and 23 the growth in adjusted EBITDA will reflect a similar growth rate and we continue to believe we can achieve this type of growth in earnings per share over time. Once we're past the unique tax rate and interest expense headwinds expected.
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The recurring and an essential nature of many of our services provide stability through economic cycles as we look at employment driven metrics in our benefits and payroll businesses, we have not yet seen signs of slow down.
Should we encounter softness in revenue or client demand, we have a number of variable items in our cost structure and we can take actions to protect margins the.
The tools and systems, we have put in place in recent years have enabled us to increase pricing and keep pace with underlying cost pressures.
The investments, we made and are continuing to make in new business producers, particularly within the benefits and insurance group have gained traction and we are seeing strong new business, coupled with strong client retention and that is driving revenue growth.
The business continues to perform well and we are projecting continued strong growth and margin expansion.
We have our eye on macroeconomic environment and the potential challenges ahead in 2023, but to recap we are comfortable to provide full year 2023 guidance and expectations as follows.
We expect total revenue to increase within a range of 8% to 10% over the $1.4 billion reported for 2022.
On an adjusted basis, we expect 2023 adjusted earnings per share to increase within a range of 11% to 13% over the adjusted earnings per share of $2 13 reported in 2022.
GAAP reported earnings per share is expected to increase within a range of 15% to 17% over $2.01 reported in 2022.
The effective tax rate for the full year of 'twenty three is expected at approximately 28%.
As I mentioned earlier, there are several considerations that play and the rate can be impacted either up or down by a number of unpredictable factors.
And lastly, fully diluted weighted average share count is expected within a range of 51 to 51.5 million shares for the full year of 2023.
So with these comments I will conclude and I'll turn it back over to Gerry.
Thank you Ware.
Given the importance of acquisitions on our growth strategy I wanted to spend a few minutes on our approach to M&A, what we've accomplished over the past 12 months, including our recent announcement of our Somerset acquisition and the strength of our pipeline.
As a quick reminder of our M&A strategy, we look for acquisitions that will allow us to enter attractive and growing geographic markets.
Strengthen our presence scale and capacity in our existing markets.
Expand our service offerings to include additional services or specialties that we know to be in high demand by our clients and.
And to access top talent.
During 2022, we completed two sizable and strategic acquisitions.
The first was mark panic, a leading accounting a tax firm with multiple locations in the Metro New York area and with offices in Philadelphia, Boca Raton in Washington D C.
The second was standard and associates are risk and advisory services firm that provides consulting services around areas like cyber security and Sox compliance.
Did it brought offices in Tulsa, and Oklahoma City, as well as our presence in capacity in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Denver.
When combined these two acquisitions added almost 700 professionals to our team and annualized revenue of approximately $154 million.
To date, we have made significant progress with the integration of these teams into our operations.
The investments that we've made in our integration approach.
And how we welcome these teams to see booze have allowed us to accelerate the overall process and to realize the desired valued these acquisitions on or ahead of schedule.
In addition to the acquisitions that we completed in 2022, we just announced our recent acquisition of Somerset, CPA and advisors and accounting and tax firm that also offers a variety of consulting services.
Headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana with offices in Fort Wayne, and Michigan City, Indiana, and Nashville, Tennessee.
Somerset brings 240 professionals and approximately $55 million in annualized revenue to see bids and allows us to enter a growing and attractive geographic market with a firm that has significant size and scale.
That will position <unk> to be competitive right out of the gate.
Each of these acquisitions adds to our CV family bring strategic value and strength to the breadth of our services and the depth of expertise.
And helps us to differentiate ourselves within the markets that we serve our M&A pipeline remains healthy and we have access to the capital needed to pursue these opportunities with that we will turn it over for Q&A.
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Okay.
Our first question comes from Chris Moore from C. J S Securities. Please go ahead.
Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking a couple of questions people.
Maybe just break down the 8% revenue growth.
Estimate a little bit further at the mid point.
From a same store perspective is that translate into roughly 4% or or am I looking at that correctly.
Yeah, Hi, Chris This is where yeah. We're looking at are in that 8% to 10% range for revenue growth. We're looking at a roughly 5% to 6% for organic and the balance through acquisition.
Got it that's helpful is there much marks a panic kind of synergy assumed in there I'm just trying to get a sense as to you know you guys didn't didn't assume much for 'twenty two and felt like 23 is when you might start to see some of that is maybe could you just talk to that a little bit.
Yeah, Yeah, Chris a little about this where again.
We have typically you're aware that we have three or earn out periods for these transactions.
There is beyond the one time nonrecurring first year expenses, we do have a layer of kind of transition expenses during that earn out.
But yes, there is incremental improvement between year, one year, two and year three so there is some modest improvement projected for marks patents.
Got it and just with respect to the 28% tax rate just want make sure I heard correctly. So looking out beyond 'twenty three what you're saying is that our 24 is not is not likely to be any higher than than that 28% range correct. Yes.
Yes, that's exactly right. This is can be characterized as kind of a one time.
2023 versus 22 headwind.
As you know presented by an increase in tax rates, because primarily for the exploration of some of the grandfathered benefits that are now expiring as a result of the tax Act tax Reform Act of 2017.
Got it and maybe just one more for me when you look at project work in fiscal year 'twenty two.
Which areas you know could be more challenging to match in 'twenty three and <unk>.
Which if any might be a little bit easier.
Yes, Chris.
Time will tell right, but when we look at project work, we basically say of the types of things historically that have been impacted by a softer economy.
That's roughly about total about 14% of our revenue of that 14% of our revenue.
Obviously much of it continued that work continues to be done. So what we did is we went back and looked at it some historic numbers and.
When we've seen some softness there it's been approximately call it 13% to 14% of that 14% or about 2% of our total revenue. So.
We don't think that it's that material in the overall scheme.
Or size of CBS , but that's those are the numbers.
That is very helpful. I will leave it there thanks guys.
Thanks, Chris.
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Our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning, Thanks for taking my questions.
I wanted to start by following up on that last answer.
With respect to the business advisory or have you seen demand there slow already I know last quarter or last couple of quarters, you've talked about being relatively sold out in that business I'm wondering if you've already seen some softness there and then relatedly.
If there is any way to quantify kind of what your expectation is or at least what's built into guidance on the business advisory front for twenty-three that'd be helpful.
Yeah, Andrew it's Gerry.
Through the most recent quarter several months here, we continue to see overall strong demand for our advisory services. So we're really encouraged by that with that said there are I think eight different service lines that we that we include in that advisory category and there are a couple that are a little softer.
But overall continued strong demand for those for those services.
When we look into 'twenty three budget, we are predicting continued.
Strong demand for those services overall.
Understood. Thank you and then for my follow up I was just hoping you could spend a little bit more time on Somerset.
It sounds like a good fit culturally can can you speak a bit more to their areas of expertise any any cross sell opportunities that immediately come to mind as you integrate them over the course of 'twenty three and then lastly, and I apologize for the multi part question, but anything you can say on the multiple paid.
Or or and or the.
The expected contribution from an EPS perspective in 'twenty three all of those things would be helpful. Thanks again.
Yeah, Let me, let me take a crack at some of these things as far as is the fit.
We couldnt be more excited to bring them on terrific organization, Great leadership strong culture, we were with that team I think when we did the welcoming a meeting we had over 20 of our CBS team members together with their almost 300 members I think there were 270 or something in the room.
And you would think that we'd been together for years I mean, just a very strong cultural fit so very encouraged by that as far as specialties are concerned. They are there. They are a terrific fit for us they serve a very similar client base across.
Very similar industries. They do have a couple of specialties. One in particular is dealerships. They they they represent a significant number of not only auto dealers, but also large equipment RV dealers and large equipment dealers. We think we can build on that we're excited about that they've got a medical.
Real estate kind of practice consultant that we're excited about we think we can build on that we like their markets.
Not only Indianapolis itself, but the other markets that they bring to us, including Michigan City in Fort Wayne and Nashville, All all really good markets for us. So a lot. There that we were excited about and are looking forward to getting.
Starting to bring into our fold.
You talked about cross serving in 'twenty three we typically don't see a lot of cross serving right out of the blocks.
Cause there, sometimes spent kind of getting familiar with for them getting familiar with our organization and I was getting familiar with them.
May see some and we've certainly seen that I would mark panic and stay in it and some of the others, but we don't kind of build that into the model, but overall very very encouraged by.
Bye Bye bye.
What we see culturally leadership and the opportunities that it presents together.
Thanks, and then anything to say on kind of expected Bottomline contribution in 'twenty, three and then I'll get back in the queue.
Yeah, Andrew this is ware.
Just.
Building on the state. The response I had earlier about the earn out periods of time, where we're normalizing out roughly five cents of equivalent earnings per share cost.
From the transaction related costs, and then clearly one time nonrecurring expenses and the initial integration beyond that though in the three year earn out period, we do have a layer of expenses. So the net contribution.
Would be fairly modest in the first year on the bottom line.
Would improve.
More to the C. This is norm.
Kind of at the end and post earn out.
Understood. Thanks again.
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Our next question comes from Marc Riddick from Sidoti. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone.
Hey, Mark.
So it really you kind of touched on pretty much all of my main questions. I guess, maybe one of the things that was sort of.
Ask them, a roundabout way I'm, sorry about that would be an emergency going biogas.
In the background.
I was wondering you talked a little bit clearly there is market share gains being taken place and market are the organic growth that you're seeing I was wanted to talk a little bit about that.
You're getting a sense that that's a function of share of wallet.
Our multi services being layered on existing clients.
Just are you just gaining from competitors or the like maybe sort of talk a little about the end market gains that you seem to be having because theres clear.
Outperformance on a local level it seems thanks.
Yeah. Thanks, Mark I think it's all of the above right. I mean, I think there is there is some component of all of those things I will say that.
And speaking to our offices are.
Our unique kind of approach to the market that being the breadth of services that we offer the depth of expertise really is a differentiator in the market and and I think we are taking market share as a result of.
Of that differentiating characteristic of the business as well as deeper share of wallet within our existing clients. The other thing that.
That's really kind of.
Taking hold here is kind of our digital outreach and our ability to communicate both depth and breadth of services the depth of expertise to our clients more directly and not have to rely exclusively on the relationship manager all of those things are helping us and we're making pretty significant investments in making sure that we continue to accelerate.
Our message to the market to take advantage of that.
Great and then could you just add a little bit as to maybe what you're seeing planning for with with pricing for this year for pricing.
Pricing increases timing.
Thank you.
Yeah, So as Ware indicated in his comments and I did in mine as well as we've been.
We made some significant investments in just our tools and our processes around pricing as we've talked about on prior calls over the past number of years, we really saw a significant impact.
And an improvement in those areas in 2022, we would expect that we would not only hold those prices those prices in 'twenty three but also continued to get even.
Better pricing throughout.
Throughout 2023, so we have we have.
Significant pricing built into our model for 'twenty, three and then a lot of confidence that we'll be able to get that and hold it.
Great and then one more if I could sneak it in there I wasn't sure I know that you mentioned the high retention was there a ballpark retention rate number that was mentioned or maybe I missed it.
Yeah, we don't we didn't give it on this call, but but you know 90 plus percent in most of our more significant service lines.
Which is really a high end of our industries.
Excellent. Thank you very much.
Youre welcome.
This concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to Jerry Chris Koch for any closing remarks.
Thank you as we wrap up today as always I want to thank our shareholders and analysts for your continued support.
And for our service team when I reflect on the record performance throughout the past year and all that you do to support each other and our clients I really can't thank you enough and we as a senior team can't Thank you enough at our core CBS as a people business and the results that we discuss today are the direct result of the hard work and dedication of each of our 6500 team.
Members with that we'll conclude our call. Thank you and have a great day.
Conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation you may now disconnect.
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