Q4 2022 Toast Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker 1: I'll now turn the call over to Michael Seno, Vice President of Investor Relations and Strategic Finance. You may begin your conference. Thank you, Remely. Welcome to the TURST Earnings Conference call for the fourth quarter and year-end December 31, 2022. On today's call, our CEO Chris Comparado and CFO Elena Gomez,
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Speaker 1: including our financial guidance for the first quarter and full year of 2023.
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Speaker 1: With that, let me turn the coil over to Chris.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael, and thank you everyone for joining us this morning. Toast finished 2022 with another quarter marked by strong top-line growth of over 50 percent further margin improvement and continued product innovation. Our solid results throughout the year.
Speaker 2: are a great testament to the quality of our battle-tested team and consistent execution on our strategy, driving location growth, more deeply serving all segments of the restaurant industry, and pushing the industry forward through bold product innovation. The complexity of running a restaurant is only increasing.
Speaker 2: This was particularly evident over the last year with restaurants facing inflation, supply change challenges, and labor constraints while continuing to adapt as guests demand a more seamless experience.
Speaker 2: With that backdrop, the need for restaurants to leverage technology to improve efficiency, grow sales, and quickly adapt is more critical than ever. And the value of toast all in one digital platform continues to grow. We added approximately 23,000 net new locations to our platform.
Speaker 2: better top and bottom line results, including Alpinein, a Taliban in California, unlocked a 76% increase in revenue since adding toast mobile order and pay, driving higher check sizes, a better guest experience, and helping manage the labor shortage.
Speaker 2: Another example is Silver Diner, which rolled out to 21 locations. Since implementing our platform, servers using Toastgo handhelds are able to cover one to two more tables then before, decrease in table turn times by an average of 3 to 5 minutes.
Speaker 2: providing tangible efficiency benefits.
Speaker 2: These examples also show how our platform feeds a virtuous cycle that creates a better experience for all stakeholders in the restaurant ecosystem. Enabling staff to be more efficient and effective leads to happier employees, which translates to a better experience for guests.
Speaker 2: who leave higher tips and reinforce the restaurant as a great place to work for employees. This dynamic leads to more successful, better-run restaurants. And as restaurants use more of our integrated platform, it strengthens the cycle, creating powerful network effects for our customers.
Speaker 2: Restaurants operate in a competitive, rapidly evolving industry with thin profit margins, magnifying the importance of technology. And with the value of our industry-leading platform can offer, we see a generational opportunity to serve as the industry's technology backbone.
Speaker 2: We are still in the early stages of our potential market opportunity. Even after our growth over the last few years, less than 10% of US restaurant locations are on the TOS platform. And our Q4 ARR only represents about 2% of the $55 billion market opportunity.
Speaker 2: leaving a long runway of growth ahead as we continue to execute.
Speaker 2: Turning to our Q4 results on a year-over-year basis, total revenue grew 50% to 769 million. ARR increased 59% to 901 million, and GPV was up 49% to 25.5 billion.
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Speaker 2: sustaining our top-line momentum while delivering consistent margin expansion throughout 2022 is evidence of both the scalability of our business model and our commitment to balancing investments in key growth areas with efficiency and cost discipline. In Q4
Speaker 2: Adjusted EBITDA improved to an $18 million loss.
Speaker 2: We also sustained healthy location growth, adding approximately 55 hundred net new locations in Q4 to end the year with approximately 79,000 total live locations.
Speaker 2: We consistently executed on our proven, scalable, go-to-market strategy throughout 2022, and we continue to benefit from the flywheel effect we've discussed in more and more markets.
Speaker 2: As we increase penetration, we're confident that we can continue to efficiently grow locations and ARR.
Speaker 2: Underpinning our location growth is strong demand across restaurant segments. In addition to momentum with SMB restaurants, we continue to gain traction up market with larger customers as we invest in our platform. I'll highlight a few bookings from the past quarter.
Speaker 2: After working with hosts at their Buddhary Food Hall location, Cameron Mitchell restaurants is rolling out toast to all restaurant brands in their multi-concept FSR-focused portfolio. They were impressed without host easily supported various partners.
Speaker 2: and tech integrations and sought potential for toast to be their trusted tech partner as the company grows. In addition to our API integrations, Cameron Mitchell is using our multi-location management module to help standardize operations and easily configure menus. They are using our Toastgo hand helps for smoother dining experiences in the community.
Speaker 2: with a significant uptick in business in warmer months. After enduring another busy season of payroll and scheduling pain and an outdated POS, they looked to toast to help revamp their approach. In addition to our robust all-in-one platform, Michael's hard-reside was attracted to our payroll and team management solutions.
Speaker 2: to help digitally onboard their influx of seasonal employees, enable workers to independently swap shifts using our sling app, and dramatically reduce weekly time spent on payroll from the hour plus they were used to. Michael's harbor side is also excited to leverage toast handhills.
Speaker 2: to help servers work their various rooms, decks, and outdoor dining spaces when the business, when the busy season returns.
Speaker 2: California-based bubble tea shop, tea spoon, selected toes to be their tech partner at 45 locations in their franchise focused, rapidly expanding footprint.
Speaker 2: T-Spoon was impressed by our restaurant-specific enterprise grade features, our strong customer references, and our proven track record of onboarding and supporting franchise-based QSRs. With toast, T-Spoon will offer franchisees a turnkey, all-in-one solution.
Speaker 2: That includes our Toastgo hand-held for line-busting, our Kissing Display Systems for backup house expedients, our digital kiosks, which they see as a real differentiator to control labor costs. They will also leverage Toast multi-location management, our scheduling and payroll products.
Speaker 2: and extra-chef for invoice automation.
Speaker 2: On top of our location growth momentum, customers like T-Spoon continue to attach more products.
Speaker 2: As of the end of Q4, 41% of our customers attached six or more SAS modules. That percentage has more than doubled in just two years thanks to our continued platform expansion. Improve in packaging designed to enable our sales team to efficiently attach more products at booking.
Speaker 2: and the grown momentum of our multi-channel upsell strategy. These factors contributed to the subscription revenue increasing over 90% year-over-year in 2022, and we continue to see a significant opportunity to further expand SAF RPU over time.
Speaker 2: Helping our customers succeed by unlocking growth and increasing efficiency is at the heart of our business and is what informs our product innovation. As the needs of guests rapidly evolve and the importance of developing incremental revenue streams grow,
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Speaker 2: Restaurants are increasingly diversifying into more service models. Our voice of the restaurant industry survey from last year found that on average, restaurants employ seven different service models. In Q3, we launched Toast Invoison.
Speaker 2: enabling restaurants to efficiently manage wholesale and catering orders along with their core restaurant business in one integrated system. Over 5,000 customers have already used our invoicing product to streamline their billing and payment processes and with an average transaction value over $650.
Speaker 2: It's also an opportunity for these customers to grow their business.
Speaker 2: To further expand the service model available through our platform, today we announce the acquisition of Delphi Display Systems, a leading provider of digital menu and drive through products.
Speaker 2: Integrating Delphi into the Toast platform will enable us to offer dry-through capabilities on our platform for the first time, giving our customers the option to employ this critical service model to grow their business and offer guests a more omnichannel experience.
Speaker 2: Adding that's right through offering and digital menu boards enhances our offering for both small and large quick serve restaurants. In Q2 of last year, we launched toast for quick serve restaurants and we've seen strong follow through in our funnel from QSRs over the last few quarters.
Speaker 2: Drive-through is a critical service model for QSRs. It has become an even more important over the past few years. We're excited to welcome the Delphi team to our Toast family and partner more deeply to serve these restaurants. We plan to continue to add more capabilities to our QSR offering in 2023.
Speaker 2: to drive even deeper penetration in this segment going forward.
Speaker 2: Last week, we announced our order with Google Integration, expanding our suite of digital ordering products.
Speaker 2: This capability expands the online reach of our restaurants by providing visibility in Google Search and Google Maps and unlocks another channel for customers to grow their online ordering business. Order with Google is fully integrated with our platform, making it easy for restaurants to update their menus and hours in one place.
Speaker 2: enabling them to offer guests a cost-efficient seamless experience.
Speaker 2: In addition to our broad platform, our extensive partner ecosystem continues to expand. During Q4 we exceeded 200 partners in our network which encompasses technology integration partners, local partners, and large national food and beverage suppliers.
Speaker 2: Our growing partner ecosystem gives customers access to a wide range of products and services to meet the needs of their restaurant, complementing our existing, expanding platform, and further enhancing the value toast provides to customers. Our growing partner ecosystem gives customers access to a wide range of products and services to meet the needs of customers.
Speaker 2: Over half our customers are using a partner integration today through our API module, and these customers are using three integrations on average. Customers that use our partner integrations have over 30% higher total RPU.
Speaker 2: and a lower-churn rate than customers not using API integrations. Evidence of the value our Parti-Recosystem adds for customers and how it enhances our platform. This is another example of the reinforcing benefits from our platform.
Speaker 2: As we jointly help customers grow, our partners grow and we grow. Thank you to our partners for sharing in the mission to help the restaurant industry thrive.
Speaker 2: So as we move into 2023, we are focused on continuing to execute on the same strategy that has been delivering consistent, strong results. First, as we continue to drive location growth, customer trust will always be the foundation of everything we do.
Speaker 2: The opportunity ahead is massive and ensuring we are the trusted platform for the restaurant industry as our business skills is always our top priority. Second, product innovation is integral to our DNA. We have an exciting pipeline of new products to help restaurant owners.
Speaker 2: further optimize their operations and to build on the suite of products we offer restaurants to deepen their touch points with their most important stakeholders, guests, employees, and suppliers.
Speaker 2: Third, we will keep investing to more deeply serve all segments of the restaurant industry. This includes tailored offerings to better serve restaurant types like QSRs and enhancing the capabilities for customer segments like mid-market and enterprise.
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Speaker 2: And fourth, we will continue building out our international business, while we're still very early the potential opportunity is significant and we look forward to taking the next steps.
Speaker 2: in the multi-year journey.
Speaker 2: Our focus on balancing key investments with disciplined cost management throughout 2022 sets us up well to maintain our operating momentum and deliver another year of strong, durable growth in 2023.
Speaker 2: We expect to deliver 32% revenue growth for full year 2023 at the midpoint of our guidance range while driving further margin improvement as we progress toward adjusted EBITAS profitability by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: We remain committed to prudently investing to capitalize on the significant market opportunity while efficiently scaling our business.
Speaker 2: As we start the year.
Speaker 2: The macroeconomic backdrop remains uncertain, while the restaurant industry has continued to perform relatively well.
Speaker 2: Where aware there is less visibility on consumer trends and restaurants continue to operate in a dynamic environment. Our top priority is to continue to help restaurants leverage our platform to overcome the challenges they face and emerge stronger.
Speaker 2: The uncertainty also calls for us to remain flexible. We've proven our ability to navigate uncertainty in the past, and we're well prepared to adapt quickly to any change in trends. Our progress over the last year to ensure a lean cost structure positions us to move even faster.
Speaker 2: as the environment evolves and the flexibility to maintain a disciplined growth mindset as we execute against the massive opportunity ahead.
Speaker 2: As we turn the page on 2022 and look ahead to 2023, I want to thank our growing customer community for their confidence and toast, our employees for their focus and dedication, and our extended network of partners.
Speaker 2: investors and others who continue to support hosts and the broader restaurant community. While we've accomplished a lot together over the past year, we believe we are just getting started and we're excited about the opportunity in the years to come. Now I'll turn the call over to Elena.
Speaker 3: Good morning and thanks, Chris, and thank you everyone for joining. I want to start with a shout out to the entire toast team. Thank you for another great quarter and consistent execution and hard work that drove our strong performance throughout the past year. We sustained our operating momentum in key for exceeding the high end of our range.
Speaker 3: on both our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. Our industry leading software and payments platform continues to drive solid top line growth. While our commitment to scalable, efficient growth has resulted in four consecutive quarters of adjusted EBITDA margin improvement.
Speaker 3: And we're just getting started. We're still in the early stages of a generational opportunity to be the restaurant industry's trusted technology partner. With smart, targeted investments and product innovation to continue to expand our industry leading platform combined with the same consistent, disciplined execution we delivered in 2022.
Speaker 3: We believe we have a long runway of top and bottom line growth ahead. In Q4, we added approximately 5,500 net new locations, increasing the total number of live locations on our platform to approximately 79,000.
Speaker 3: Our differentiated go-to-market approach and the strong execution of our sales team led to consistent strong net location ads throughout the year, enabling us to sustain approximately 40% year-over-year location growth.
Speaker 3: As demonstrated in the examples Christa shared, we're seeing success across the full breadth of our restaurant segments maintaining our strength in SMB while building momentum of market.
Speaker 3: Total Revenue Group 50% year-over-year to $769 million in the fourth quarter. For the full year 2022, total revenue of $2.7 billion was up 60% from the previous year. ARR, which is our core operational metric, close-a-year at $901 million, up 59% year-over-year.
Speaker 3: Our 2022 performance resulted in a total network tension rate or NRR of 118 percent. That's down from 135 percent in 2021. As a reminder, we anticipated the decline since 2021 benefited from GPV recovery and higher margin debit and credit, not present volume during COVID, which stabilized in 2022.
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Speaker 3: Our staff and our increased by points to 128 percent, driven by our momentum and upsell, continued location expansion from existing customers and low churn.
Speaker 3: Subscription services revenue grew 76% year-rearing Q4 while total staff are to increase nearly 20% and is up by more than 50% from two years ago as we continue to see new customers join the platform with higher ARPU and existing customers adopt more products.
Speaker 3: As of the end of Q4, 41% of our restaurant locations have touched 6 or more SAS modules compared to just 32% last year. And the average SAS R-POO for this cohort is significantly higher in our overall SAS R-POO.
Speaker 3: This is a great example of the longer-term RPU potential as we continue to expand the platform, optimize our packaging and refine our upsell motion.
Speaker 3: Moving to FinTech Solutions, Revenue grew 52% to 640 million and Gross Profit was up 71% year-over-year to 137 million in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: GPV growth remains solid and increased 49% to 25.5 billion in Q4. Average annualized GPV per processing location was just below 1.4 million, up 7% year over year, and slightly below Q3 levels, in line with typical seasonal patterns.
Speaker 3: We also continue to benefit from our non-payment spin tech products and services led by TOS Capital. These products drove approximately 24 million of gross profit in Q4. Are growing TOS Capital offering provide eligible customers with fast, flexible access to capital to grow their business?
Speaker 3: And as our customers grow and expand their business, we grow with them. For example, a stake house in Georgia used funds from Toast Capital to install powered curtains to enclose its patio during colder months. That opened up about 70 additional seats, driving incremental sales in the winter and contributed to 20% sales growth in 2020.
Speaker 3: restaurant to inform our underwriting process and pricing.
Speaker 3: Lonesome repaid using a portion of each restaurant's daily payment volume reducing repayment risk. Our banking partnership also includes a loss cap to offer further protection. These factors enable us to balance risk while helping our customers grow and continuing to expand our business.
Speaker 3: And that take rate increased to 54 basis points driven by the growth in other products slightly offset by the seasonal higher credit mix similar to what we typically see in Q4.
Speaker 3: We expect that to take great to remain in a similar range in 2023.
Speaker 3: In Q4, total gross profit grew 110% year-over-year and 5% quarter-over-quarter to 172 million, resulting in total gross margin of 22.4%.
Speaker 3: Looking at our recurring stream subscription and Fintech growth profit totaled 207 million in the fourth quarter of 78% year-over-year, showcasing the power of our integrated business model.
Speaker 3: Turning to customer acquisition costs, hardware margins improved slightly due to the lower shipping costs. Hardware revenue decreased year-rear due to the pricing and packaging of bundled product sales.
Speaker 3: Excluding that impact, hardware revenue increased driven by upsell and location growth.
Speaker 3: Our sales and marketing investments continue to deliver solid returns as evidence by our consistent NetNee location ads each quarter. We expect to continue to efficiently scale our go-to-market engine as we drive deeper penetration and build a flywheel effect in more markets over time.
Speaker 3: Managing customer acquisition costs and maintaining healthy unit economics is a key focus as we scale the business and help inform our investment decisions. For the full year in 2022, our payback period was in line with our expectations at approximately 15 months.
Speaker 3: We remain confident in our ability to scale our unit economics as we've been at for an increase in market penetration and rough tenure, driving the productivity of our sales team, opportunities to optimize hard work costs and continue momentum in our food growth.
Speaker 3: As Chris highlighted, our order with Google Integration is the latest example of the ongoing product innovation resulting from our R&D investments. And we have an exciting pipeline of new products and capabilities on tap for 2022 that will further enhance our platform and unlock more value for our customers and drive sustained our food and location over the long term.
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Speaker 3: Bad debt and credit-related expenses totaled 18 million in Q4, which includes bad debt on outstanding receivables as well as liabilities related to toast capital and other FENTEC offerings.
Speaker 3: to post-capital to increase as we grow the program. The overall operating margin for post-capital is healthy and accretive to the overall business and we believe indicative of the health of the program.
Speaker 3: Total Q4, adjusted EBITDA, was negative 18 million and margin was 2.3% over 600 basis points improvement from the prior year. This progress is a direct result of our focus on having a lean cost structure combined with durable top line growth. The improvements to our cost structure and commitment to discipline investing and efficiency put us in a great position to drive sustained margin improvements in 2023.
Speaker 3: negative 30 million to negative 20 million. Our guidance reflects a typical seasonal decline in GPV per processing location, as Q1 is historically the lowest quarter of the year.
Speaker 3: For full year 2023, we expect revenue to be in the range of $3.57 billion to $3.66 billion, which represents 32% year-over-year growth at the midpoint, with adjusted EBITDA guidance in the range of negative $30 million to negative $10 million. At the midpoint, this implies a 370 basis point margin improvement.
Speaker 3: with discipline targeted investments to capitalize on the opportunity to be the trusted platform for the restaurant industry while staying lean and efficient as we scale. We also plan to make further investments in longer-term initiatives such as building enterprise capabilities and expanding internationally.
Speaker 3: which both expand our market opportunity and position toast for sustained strong growth over the long term.
Speaker 3: Now, looking beyond 2023, we're confident that our integrated software and payments model will continue to scale efficiently. As total subscription plus Fintech-Rose profit in our core business compounds over time, we expect to show meaningful operating leverage. As we achieve larger scale, we expect adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of total...
Speaker 3: We intend to execute the same playbook going forward balancing efficiency and margin improvement with discipline targeted investments to capitalize on the massive opportunity in our core business, which we believe will drive several years of sustained strong growth.
Speaker 3: As we balance growth and profitability each year, our goal is to consistently exceed the rule of 40 on the path to our target financial profile. Certain years that may mean delivering more margin expansion and in some years we may decide to invest more to deepen penetration or increase our output potential.
Speaker 3: We'll also have those decisions in the context of optimizing our long-term cash flow potential.
Speaker 3: And given the size of the opportunity ahead and the power of our integrated software and payments model, we expect to operate above the rule of 40 even as our core business grows into this margin profile.
Speaker 3: Subscription and Fintech are our recurring gross profit streams and the basis on which we operate the business and serves as the anchor for our margin and how we assess our operating expenses. We expect a combination of improving unit economics and leverage on overhead costs to drive the path to 30 to 35 percent margins.
Speaker 3: All highlight a few key areas. We will see leverage as our total ARR continues to scale. In addition, as we've discussed, sales and rep productivity is correlated with both rep tenure and market penetration. We've seen the dynamic play out in our flywheel markets and expect that as we continue to drive higher penetration.
Speaker 3: and as Rept10 your increases, sales and marketing costs will continue to become more efficient. Long-return, we expect hardware and services margin to improve as we see the full benefit from shift to lower cost shipping and further supply chain optimization, plus increased efficiency in arm-boarding new customers.
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Speaker 3: Our focus on cost discipline and efficiency will also be evident in GNA, or we expect operating leverage starting in 2023 and our underlying GNA expenses to benefit from automation and increase scale over time.
Speaker 3: Our long-term G&A profile also factors in credit liability expenses proportionate with the growth in Toast Capital.
Speaker 3: In closing, 2022 was a strong year for toast and we continue to have a lot of conviction about our long-term opportunity. The consistent execution across the company led to durable growth or our focus on efficiency and discipline cost management.
Speaker 3: through of meaningfully margin improvement. We remain in very early stages of an incredible market opportunity and are confident that continuing to relentlessly execute our strategy will lead to sustained location and arpeggrofe and create significant.
Speaker 3: long-term shareholder value. I want to thank all of our employees, customers, and partners, and we look forward to an exciting 2023. Now I'll turn the call back over to the operator to start our Q&A.
Speaker 3: value. I want to thank all of our employees, customers, and partners, and we look forward to an exciting 2023. Now I'll turn the call back over to the operator to start our Q&A.
Speaker 4: Thank you. At this time I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question pressed star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster.
Speaker 4: Our first question today comes from Dan Donas with Mizzouho. Dan, please throw ahead.
Speaker 4: Our first question today comes from Dan Donas with Mizzouho. Dan, please go ahead.
Speaker 5: Hey guys, great results. Thanks for taking my question. I was appreciated.
Speaker 5: So, I do have a question about two questions. A question and a quick follow-up about the SaaS thing. So, if I look at your SaaS grill, whether you prefer customer, it was basically like, slat-ish.
Speaker 5: and slightly down here a beer. And what happened there, I think a lot of people, they're very bullish, expecting with massive growth in that.
Speaker 5: and then have a quick follow up. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so staff, so first of all, I just want to compliment our upsell team and our growth team for positioning the platform and really, you know, we're seeing a lot of momentum there. And I also want to remind you that our staff, RPU, overall is up 20% Dan and over
Speaker 3: our platform, we're going to continue to see more customers bringing on more upfront as we land as customers at a higher ARCOO, but also our up-to-tell team is having really good progress so far.
Speaker 5: Got it. Thank you. You're welcome. And then my follow-up is on like, offer trends into 2023. Now, how should we think about the pace of location edge in 2023 and the cadence for the year? Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of location ads, like First Law again, a complement to the execution by the sales team in 2022 and you know, we continue to see momentum heading into 2023.
Speaker 3: The funnel is strong and the sales team is executing well. So the one thing I would point you to is Q1 seasonally typically lower than Q2 and Q3. So just keep that in mind, but we continue to believe we've got momentum in the business of the point.
Speaker 5: Great. Thank you. Great results. Congratulations.
Speaker 6: Thanks, Dan. Thanks, Sue.
Speaker 4: Our next question comes from Stephen Chowden with Willie and Blair. Stephen, your line is open.
Speaker 7: Hey, thanks. I want to start with, I guess, a more high-level question. And I know you're still early in gaining market share across most markets.
Speaker 7: But if you just looked at some of your more mature markets, does it seem like location market share caps out or slows down in a certain threshold and maybe it's still too early to know that? But I guess that's another way. Do you think it's harder to get that initial 20% location market share in a certain market or is it harder to get the next 20%?
Speaker 7: If you more frequently have to unseed another and a fast incumbent, I guess even even with some of the flywheel dynamics that you're clearly seeing. Stephen, great question. Look, I think we can continue to see the same dynamic, where as we gain market share.
Speaker 8: and get market density and rep tenure up in these markets. The productivity of our reps and our ease continues to improve. That's the trend we continue to see. And I think that's not only in terms of the productivity, but also the wind rates we see against our competitors. And so there's nothing in our data that we're seeing that says.
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Speaker 8: that we can't continue to draw at the plagible markets. And I think in terms of your question, whether the first 20% or the last 20% I'll tell you the first 10% is what's the hardest.
Speaker 7: God, it's really helpful.
Speaker 7: And this is the follow-up great to see the order with Google integration. Would love to give your thoughts on how big of an opportunity that might be, you know, what kind of top-line growth implications there could be. And whether there's any notable impact on unit economics for orders and payments that flow through their relative security systems, online order solutions.
Speaker 2: Yes, good question. I think it's super important for any restaurant to meet the guest and the consumer where they are. So we're pretty bullish on the opportunity with Google. Seamlessly integrating with them. So if a consumer is on Google Maps or searching on Google. Google.
Speaker 2: and then connecting to the restaurant's first party online ordering capability is a critical success factor and a stream line, stream lines both the revenue attacks as well as the productivity of the teams. It also eliminates third party.
Speaker 2: directions to process orders. So for us, it's much more seamless guest experience. Every restaurant should be taken advantage of that. And we think it's a unique opportunity in the market.
Speaker 7: Great. Thank you and next results.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 4: The next question comes from Timothy Chiodo with Credit Freeze. Timothy, your line is open.
Speaker 9: Great. Thank you for taking the question. I want to talk a little bit about the net take rate for FinTech. So 54 basis points in the quarter and the comment was that next year the expectation is for that take rate to be roughly in that same range. But given some of the pricing comments by Clover and by Sir Overall in the last quarter.
Speaker 9: suggest that maybe there could be some upside to that take rate and I was hoping you could just comment on.
Speaker 9: those factors and the pricing changes in particular. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. So good question, Tim. Thanks for the question. First of all, you know, compliment to the Coast Capital team for the momentum and really the fact that we're meeting the Japan that we're seeing from our customers on Coast Capital and that definitely plays into the take rate for the quarter. And just remember that
Speaker 3: And, you know, Q4, you know, credits seasonally higher. So in Q4, we had in our core take rate a bit of a lower take rate, of course. But just keep in mind year over year, our take rate has increased. And then I think...
Speaker 3: What we often talk about, and I'll just remind everyone, we're always focused on both pricing and cost optimization, but cost optimization is important over the long term. And that's just the muscle that we have built in the company that we're focused on. And then finally, I would just zoom out and say that the take rate overall, there's
Speaker 3: opportunity to a longer term opportunity to offer products to thrive more payments volume and drive more digital transaction. And then of course there's opportunity to optimize pricing. And I'll let them on comment on your specific question around pricing.
Speaker 8: Sure, thanks, Elena. Tim, look, we're focused on gaining market share, right? And we're always testing pricing. Like pricing and packaging, something we're always optimizing. But there's nothing material to report in terms of changes when our pricing and our take rate.
Speaker 9: Okay, I really appreciate that. The very, very brief follow-up is you mentioned the 24 million, I believe, for Q4, for a toast capital and take card, and it was 17 million last quarter. So, did I might have missed it? Did you give a full year number for those or just the second half?
Speaker 10: Now we have been given the full year.
Speaker 10: Now we have been given the full year. Thank you for taking the questions.
Speaker 6: Thanks dad
Speaker 4: The next question comes from Raina Kumar with UBS. Raina please go ahead, your line is open.
Speaker 11: Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. You gave me really helpful detail on the macro backdrop. Just curious on your actual 23 guidance does that assume macro gets worse or it remains dead?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair question. We contemplated the macro and our guidance was with that in the backdrop. We felt like our guidance was prudent just given that there's uncertainty out there. But we've seen resilience in our customers and restaurants in the past. That's also in our calculus as well. Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Got it, it's helpful. And then you continue to improve the percentage of customers using elective products. Can you talk a little bit about how demand has evolved for elective products in recent months? And are you finding it easier and more difficult to sell these products given the macro environment we're in?
Speaker 2: I think it's less about the macro environment and it's more about restaurants wanting to adopt in all-in-one solution and then also have a really strong partner ecosystem on top of that platform. So you know at the end of the day...
Speaker 2: If you think about the restaurant challenges, they're facing labor challenges, inflation, and how to drive top line growth. So having a platform that connects those dots and allows them to be much more efficient is what we're after. So we're seeing that value proposition resonate in the market, both for SMB as well as up market.
Speaker 2: with our partner ecosystem as well. So we're seeing that broader adoption of modules based on value proposition.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 4: The next question comes from Tansond Wong with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Speaker 5: Hi, thanks. Good morning. Hey, great growth here. Just wanted to, I think, Elena or Kushy mentioned an exciting new product for physical 23. Just curious, is that more of the Google variety or products on enterprise? Just...
Speaker 5: I'll put it again a little bit more flavor on the top of the map here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's a good question. You're going to see pilots and opportunities across all lines of business. So, you know, both guest-sacings, you know, you think about the Delphi acquisition this morning, you know, bringing Ken and the team into our foes so that we can more broadly serve QSR restaurants specifically with drive-through.
Speaker 2: opportunity to continue to show visibility and price tracking across the restaurant sector so that they can optimize their spend. So I'd say it's a broad-based attack on different opportunities across the different stakeholders. But again, with the mission of empowering restaurants of all types to improve their operations.
Speaker 5: Cool, no, appreciate that. Just my quick follow up and maybe just thinking about, I know a lot of questions around the outlook here, but, and are you speaking?
Speaker 5: high level. Any change in growth composition between location growth and RPU in 23 versus 22 is trying to get a sense of relative growth here, and we should expect a change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, the composition, the scene of our location should be relatively consistent. Like I think the one thing we said is the platform resonates with...
Speaker 3: various parts of the market, so whether it's QSR, APHISR, whether it's smaller format restaurant, larger format restaurants. So I think the press of our offering is allowed us to resonate in different parts of the town.
Speaker 8: And so we expect that to be consistent. On the product side, we're discussing the last thing to increase our TAM. And then a fast-stop-alive with this, Lane I mentioned on the call is up 20-10 year-by-ear. We continue to expect to continue to see that in 23 as well.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the thoughts. The next question comes from Josh Baer with Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead, Josh.
Speaker 12: Great, thanks for the question. With Delphi coming on board and innovations around QSR and hospitality, not the long go, what are some of the other big areas of innovation, product features functionality that are needed to further unlock up market?
Speaker 2: We have very similar to what I just mentioned, Josh. I think you're going to see us push out solutions in our platform that help each stakeholder.
Speaker 2: in the restaurant thrive. So guest-facing, omnichannel experiences, we want restaurants to meet the guest where they are. So whether it's online through a search through Google or in drive-through or in store through Kiosk or at the table, we want to make sure that we create
Speaker 2: an amazing set of guest experiences and service models that allow the restaurant to drive top lines, but then also allow their staff to be productive. If you go inside the restaurant, a good example with Silver Diner, you know, we're seeing progress on staff productivity amidst labor changes for restaurants gaining productivity through our platforms so that they can...
Speaker 2: Better treat their guests, have staff productivity go up, and then see happier consumers, happier employees, higher tips and wages, higher ticket sizes, and a flywheel within the restaurant that improves the restaurant itself.
Speaker 2: And then as I mentioned in the back office, we believe there's opportunities to better connect food cost optimization back into the supply chain so that the restaurant is optimizing their costs. So you're going to see opportunities across these different stakeholder groups. And that's what gets us excited about the All in One platform because
Speaker 12: Our mission is to make sure that we're advancing this platform so that all of these stakeholders can thrive. Thanks, Chris. Is there any appetite to accelerate international expansion through M&A?
Speaker 3: Right now, it's a fair question. I mean, I think just our overall M&A philosophy for international isn't different than it is for our overall business. So we're looking at, is there something that gets us to market faster? Is there something that's complementary to our product roadmap? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right now our focus is building off of the foundation we started in 2022 internationally and I don't anticipate that will have a material impact or meaningful impact anyway in 2023.
Speaker 4: Thanks. The next question comes from Will and Nancy with Goldman Sachs. Will, please go ahead. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, good morning. Appreciate you taking the question. Can you spend a little time on some of the macro trends that you guys saw throughout the fourth quarter and into the first quarter? We've heard from others sort of F&B software oriented names and the market talking about a temporary slowdown and uptake on new software platforms. You know, I know the kind of stuff.
Speaker 13: seeing and how things progressed over the fourth quarter and whether you guys are saying the same sort of traction in the end market so far in 2023.
Speaker 2: Sure, good question. Well, so we're not seeing meaningful changes in consumer demand or spending across our So restaurants are seeing demand and it's in line with our expectations for what I would call historic seasonality trends.
Speaker 2: You know, we continue to see consumers moving more spend to services like dining out versus food at home. You know, certainly January , some of the signal from January on retail sales were strong with continued strength for food services. But we're not really seeing any material or meaningful impact in consumer demands or across restaurants.
Speaker 2: As we've mentioned before, I think we mentioned this last quarter, consumer spend on dining has proven pretty resilient during past economic slowdowns. So I think that keeps us optimistic that what we're seeing will hopefully continue. That being said, we're pretty mindful of the mixed macro signals.
Speaker 2: and we're monitoring things closely. I think the last point I would make is, you know, our platform really helps restaurants adapt and be resilient during tough times. And if you look at the path two and a half years, we've been incredibly successful allowing restaurants to adjust their business, adapt.
Speaker 2: and have stronger survivability. So I think our platform becomes really valuable in tough market conditions, and that's what we're seeing with things like our staff, our food growth, and customers using more modules on the platform. So in general, it's stay the course and continue to be mindful.
Speaker 3: of the signals that are out there. Yeah, and also Joshua, I would tell you two things. One is our location ads in Q4. We're in line with what we expected and comparable to Q3. So not down and not below our expectations. And I'd also reinforce our ARPU is up year over year.
Speaker 13: 20% and up over two years, 50%. So just keep that in mind as you consider Q4. Got it. Yep, I see those numbers. And then maybe follow a question on toast capital. The relationship, I think you mentioned on the timing and some of the reverec on revenues and most of that is upfront upon origination. Can you just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the way to think about that is that we gave you sort of a proxy, but the way to think about what drives that is really the tenure of the loan. So if it's a 90 day, 270 day, or 360 day, that's going to have a different reserve, if you will. And then the creditworthiness of the customers for all those people.
Speaker 14: Thank you.
Speaker 15: I don't know.
Speaker 4: The next question comes from Darren, Pellow with Wolf. Darren, please get ahead.
Way to think about what drives that is really the tight the tenure of the loan. So if it's a 90 day 270 <unk> hundred 60 day, that's going to have a different reserve if you will.
Speaker 7: Hey guys, thanks and nice results. Can we just touch on the thought process and around the profitability cadence? Again, I know you talked about it and it was really helpful to fly to give us a long-term margins, but just considering your views on trade-off on investments and timing on inflation.
And then the creditworthiness of the customer so all the typical underwriting that you would expect plays into how we reserve for potential future losses. That's the that's the analysis of the peanuts.
Speaker 7: really just updated thoughts on when you think we could be showing more pronounced profitability levels would love to hear some thoughts.
Got it and most of that is booked upfront at origination as opposed to over the life of loan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's thanks for the question. So I think hopefully you can see from how we've executed in the last year that we've consistently delivered margin improvement. And so that's a pretty intentional focus by this management team that won't change. And so we're going to continue to balance.
Correct.
I appreciate you taking my questions. Thank you.
No problem.
Our next question comes from Darrin Peller with Wolfe Darren. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks, and nice results can we just touch on.
The thought process around the profitability cadence again, I know you've talked about it and that was really helpful to slide you gave us in the long term margins, but.
Speaker 3: And that's a really important thing I want people to hear is we're going to balance this opportunity because we have so much conviction about our opportunity at this moment. And so as you think about the next couple years, we're going to continue to still have healthy growth, but at the same time continue to deliver a margin expansion.
Just considering your views on tradeoff on investments and timing on inflection and really just updated thoughts on when you think we could be showing more pronounced profitability levels would love to hear some thoughts.
Speaker 3: with this idea that we're going to be balancing and exceeding the rule of 40. That's how our ambition is to plan in that way. So that's what I would tell you. And I think it's important for you to realize that we will not our path to that margin profile may not always be linear.
Yes.
Thanks for the question. So I think hopefully you can see from how we've executed in the last year that we've consistently delivered margin improvement and so that's a pretty intentional focus by this management team that won't change.
And so we're going to continue to balance and that's a really important thing I want people to hear is we're going to balance this opportunity because we have so much conviction about our opportunity at this moment and so as you think about the next couple of years, we're going to continue to still have healthy growth, but at the same time continue continue.
Speaker 7: So as opportunities present themselves who want flexibility to kind of lean into that investment. That's helpful. Just quick follow up. I appreciate that. You could just touch on how the front book RPU is terned. If it's still around 6000 levels, you guys are spoken about in the past or it's a change at all.
Speaker 7: No, we're definitely in that zone. Great, great. I look like there's some loss interaction on the board. I'd appreciate it, guys.
Deliver margin expansion with this idea that we're going to be balancing and exceeding the rule of 40. That's how we're our ambition is to plan in that way. So that's what I would tell you and I think it's important for you to realize that we will not.
Speaker 4: The next question comes from Josh Beck with Keybank. Josh please go ahead.
Our our path to that margin profile may not always be linear so as opportunities present themselves, we want that flexibility to kind of lean into that investment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much for taking the question. I would ask a little bit about the payback assumption. Certainly a really good result this year in the mid teens. And it sounds like efficiency-wise, you feel like there's more opportunities. So as we look forward into 23 and beyond, you know, how important is...
Okay.
That's helpful. Just a quick follow up I appreciate that and just if you could just touch on how the front book <unk> has trended still.
Still around 6000 mobile you guys have spoken about in the past or has it changed at all.
We're definitely.
In that zone.
Speaker 5: head count growth and you know is that a good reference point just to think about in terms of efficiency?
Great great it looks like Theres, some us some traction going forward alright, I appreciate it guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think so a couple things. One is we we always sort of manage to that mid team drosh and you know the.
The next question comes from Josh Beck with Keybanc, Josh. Please go ahead.
Speaker 3: The commentary we tend to make on flywheel markets is really important because that as we see more ref tenure and we get deeper into a market We're going to see productivity increase and we're going to see that play out and so as we continue to replicate these flywheel markets The need to add capacity that we
Yes. Thank you so much for taking the question I wanted to ask a little bit about the payback assumption certainly you had a really good result, this year in the mid teens and it sounds like efficiency wise, you feel like Theres theres more opportunities as we.
We look forward into 'twenty, three and beyond how important is head count growth and is that a good reference point just to think about in terms of efficiency.
Yes, I mean, I think so a couple of things one is we always sort of manage to that mid teen Josh and.
Speaker 8: We bring opportunistic. The upsell team, for example, has seen good progress in our progress in our growth. Good, the catch rates of our guest process holding is adding more locations that left the upside on our extra stress and payroll products, given there aren't it penetrated in our base.
Sure.
The commentary we tend to make on flywheel markets is really important because that as we see more rep tenure, and we get deeper into a market.
We're going to see productivity increase we're going to see that play out and so as we continue to replicate these high little market.
Speaker 8: So we're investing in some of the emerging markets in our cell, but Tulane is pointing at the biggest driver we feel in our normal-term markets is really driving market density and driving the ten-year-old rep's up.
Need to add capacity that we've added.
As an example that we've had in the last few years will be less right. We should be able to continue to increase rep productivity, which will drive some of that leverage that we anticipate and will allow us to stay within the payback periods that we feel are healthy.
Speaker 5: Okay, and if any of the maybe a follow up a little bit to Darren's question just around the target panel. Thank you for the framework. It's very helpful. But yeah, I mean, how should we frame up the horizon around the type of scale that's required? And then...
Just to add to that Josh we're being opportunistic.
For example, we've seen good progress on ARPA growth.
Good.
Attach rates of I guess back to holding if you're adding more locations with lots of upside on our axle shafts in parallel products given there are not as penetrated in our base.
Speaker 5: You know, what type of impact could because I believe that that profile excludes Enterprise and the international like you know should should those factors Be included would it be more so in the sales and marketing go to market spend just curious how to think about that those two items
So we're investing in and some of the emerging markets and up so but to <unk> point. The biggest driver we feel in our more mature markets is really driving market density and driving the tenure of our reps up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now thanks for the call, you're exactly right. Like I consider those emerging investments more like options to continue to sustain our growth over time, but I think what you should hear is, you know, we have a big opportunity ahead and we feel confident we can continue to compound our ARR and Fintech growth profits for the...
Yes.
Okay, and then maybe a follow up a little bit to <unk> question just around the target P&L. Thank you for the the framework, it's very helpful, but how.
How should we frame up.
Horizon around the type of scale, that's required and then.
What type of impact could because I believe that the profile excludes enterprise and international.
Should those factors.
Be included would it be more so in the sales and marketing go to market spend just curious how to think about those two items.
Speaker 3: will be, you know, we'd like to think is that at a larger scale, we can drive that profit margin profile. So that's probably the best way I can think about it. I don't want to be precise on the timing because, as I said, we want to have that flexibility to invest into opportunities as the market evolves.
Yeah, no. Thanks for the call out Youre exactly right I consider.
Those emerging investments to more more options to continue to sustain our growth over time, but I think what you should hear is.
We have a big opportunity.
We feel confident we can continue to compound our <unk> fintech gross profit for the next for the years next years to come and that's going to be both.
Speaker 3: but we'll always kind of come back to this notion that we want to exceed the role of 40 over time.
Speaker 16: Let me know how you are doing.
Continued R&D investment obviously to continue to deepen our penetration and drive more <unk>.
Speaker 13: Our final question today comes from the line of Andrew Bach with SMBC Miko. Please go ahead, Andrew. Hey guys, thanks for squeezing me in. First question I'm Delphi. How much of this are you contributing in the fully year revenue guide or from the event of diversification and then now to the quick follow-up after that?
And the one way to think about it is we'll be we'd like to think is that at a larger scale. We can drive that profit margin profile. So.
That's probably the best way I can think about it I don't want to be precise on the timing because as I said, we want to have that flexibility to invest into opportunities as the market evolves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Delphi is not material to our 2023 PNL, but it is important strategically to our QSR offering. So just consider that over the long term.
We will always kind of come back to this notion that we want to exceed the rule of 40 over time.
Speaker 13: Got it. And then looking at the long-term financial profile, very helpful to kind of pick apart these pieces. Could you give us a sense of what you're using there for your terminal, Fintech, and Fiscription gross margins, potentially on each line?
Makes sense thanks, Steve.
Our final question today comes from the line of Andrew Buck with SMB Nikko. Please go ahead Andrew.
Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in.
Yeah, we're not going to give that detail, but overall I think you should expect to see leverage in the entire business over time, but we're going to continue to balance that with investing in R&D and innovation, obviously, to continue to drive that R&D over time. But the gross margin line should be fairly stable, we can assume.
First question on Delhi, how much of this are you contributing in the full year revenue guide or from the EBITDA perspective, then.
I have a quick follow up after that.
Yes, Delphi is not material to our 2023 P&L, but it is important strategically to our <unk> offering so just consider that over the long term.
I'm not going to comment on that.
Got it and then looking at the.
The long term financial profile very helpful to kind of pick up are these pieces could you give us a sense on what youre using there for your terminal Fintech and subscription gross margins protect potentially on each line.
All right, thank you. Those are all the questions we have time for today. So I would like to turn the call back over to the presenters.
Okay, thank you all. Have a great day.
Okay, thank you all. Have a great day. Thank you.
Yes, we're not going to give that detail.
But overall I think you should expect to see leverage in the entire business over time, but we're going to continue to balance that with with investing in R&D and innovation, obviously to continue to drive that <unk> over time.
Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our call and you may now disconnect your lines.
But the gross margin line should be fairly stable, we can assume.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not going to comment on that.
Alright, thank you.
And there's no other questions. We have time for today, so I would like to turn the call back over to the presenters.
Yeah.
Okay. Thank you all have a great day.
Okay.
Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our call and you may now disconnect your lines.
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