Q3 2023 Tilray Brands Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss Tilray Brands, Inc.'s financial results for the fiscal year 2023. Third quarter ended February 28, 2023.
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Speaker 2: Ms. Narada, you may now begin the conference.
Speaker 3: Thank you and good afternoon. By now everyone should have access to the earnings press release, which is available on the investors section of the brand website at dot com and has been filed with the and. On today's call, we will be referring to various non gap.
Speaker 3: financial measures which can provide useful information for investors. However, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. The earnings press release contains a reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure
Speaker 3: to the most comparable measure prepared in accordance with GAP.
Speaker 3: In addition, we will be making numerous forward-looking statements during our remarks and in response to your questions.
Speaker 3: These statements are based on our current expectations and beliefs and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which may prove to be incorrect.
Speaker 3: Actual results could differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements.
Speaker 3: The text in our earnings press release includes many of the risks and uncertainties associated with such forward-looking statements.
Speaker 3: Note that we have also posted a presentation on the HEXO transaction to the investors section of the Tilbury Brands website.
Speaker 3: Today, you will hear from key members of our senior leadership team. Erwin Simon, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Tilbury Brands, Inc. And Karl Merton, Chief Financial Officer, who will provide a quarterly financial review and update our annual guidance.
Speaker 3: Also joining us for the question and answer segment of this call is Denise Falchik, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of International, Blair McNeil, President, Tilray Canada and Ty Gilmore, President of our U.S. Beer Business.
Speaker 3: And now I'd like to turn the call over to Tilray Brand, Chairman and CEO , Erwin Simon.
Speaker 4: Good afternoon, everyone and thank you Baron and hello everyone. Thank you for joining us for a report on our Q3 financial results. As well as our exciting announcement that we reached an agreement to acquire 100% of the common shares of HEXO.
Speaker 4: Let me begin by stating the obvious. The global cannabis industry continues to be challenging with both industry specific and macro headwinds. The Tilray Brands team has demonstrated adaptability, strong execution skills, and operation excellence throughout.
Speaker 4: in response to diversify our business and build a strong durable balance sheet.
Speaker 4: This diversification in particular has been an absolute necessity given the ongoing delays in US federal cannabis legalization.
Speaker 4: and the delayed SAFE Banking Act, as well as delays in adult use legalization in Germany.
Speaker 4: all of which have fundamentally impacted cannabis industry business models built around the promise of legalization.
Speaker 4: These industry conditions have compelled us to challenge previous assumptions, adapt and execute. As a result, we built the most diversified global cannabis lifestyle and CPG company with a clear vision and a strategy to deliver sustainable long-term stockholder value and growth.
Speaker 4: Throughout it all, we have remained focused on the core business fundamentals such as maximizing our revenue growth and profitability, cost management, and of course, cash generation.
Speaker 4: And while due to the current macroeconomic climate, we do not believe the value of the opportunities we've created within our diversified business are fully reflected in our current stock price.
Speaker 4: We begin that these opportunities will generate significant stockholder value in the long term and that our efforts that we've delivered will suit these following accomplishments.
Speaker 4: We've repositioned a free up, optimized operations and cost efficiencies and built the leading Canadian cannabis LP with the Tilray transaction and now with the Hexo transaction. Today Tilray Brands continues to lead with the number one cannabis market share across Canada.
Speaker 4: which we've accomplished as a low-cost producer while achieving $122 million in cost savings.
Speaker 4: We've strengthened and expanded our international cannabis business in over 20 countries and new markets and territories around the globe. And today we have the leading medical cannabis market share across Europe .
Speaker 4: As an adaptation to delay in the US federal cannabis legalization, we built a strong and profitable US beverage alcohol business, including repositioning Sweetwater into the number one craft brewer in Georgia, the number two craft brewer in the southeast, and the 10th largest craft brewer in the US. We acquired Montauk Brewing Company.
Speaker 4: and grew its points of distribution by 10% within the first four months of operating this business.
Speaker 4: Today, Montauk is the fastest selling craft brewer in New York.
Speaker 4: Our highly awarded bourbon brand, Breckenridge Astillery, was recently awarded the world's best blend of whiskey by Whiskey Magazine. You've got to try this product.
Speaker 4: We've also stabilized Manitoba Harvest into a profitable business, creating the world's leading hemp food brand with over 50% of branded hemp market share in the US and Canada.
Speaker 4: when federal cannabis legalization does occur. We will leverage these US businesses into beverage, alcohol, and wellness, including their distribution and marketing networks, to capture new expansive opportunities across the US and throughout the creation of a broad set of cannabis-infused CPG brands.
Speaker 4: Now let's discuss our agreement to acquire Hexo-Forp. Please refer to the Tilray and Hexo investor presentation available on our website, www.tilray.com for greater details. We view this transaction as building on strength in that it takes the proven value proposition of the successful strategic partnership.
Speaker 4: that we forged with the HEXO team last year and this enables us to fully leverage the combined power of our businesses. Together, we have the assets and the operating expertise to build a stronger Canadian platform that takes advantage of clear opportunities.
Speaker 4: to deliver stronger top-line growth and increase our market share, deliver enhanced margin contributions, accelerating our drive to profitability through operating and cost synergies, and ultimately enhancing value creation for our shareholders.
Speaker 4: To provide some further detail, we expect three immediate benefits. First, we expect the combination of our businesses to enable us to grow and strengthen our number one share even further across all major Canadian cannabis markets.
Speaker 4: anticipate pro forma combined cannabis market share would rise 480 basis points to 12.9%. And pro forma net sales would rise to approximately US$250 million, supported by leading low-cost operations and complementary distribution across all Canadian geographies.
Speaker 4: Second, it will broaden our portfolio of high-growth brands, expanding Canadian adult use opportunities with the addition of Hexo's top brands, including Redican, the number 7 brand in Canada, and add new Canadian medical opportunities to Hexo's assortment.
Speaker 4: which would bring a new diversified group of consumers and patients, in addition to adding capabilities across multiple product categories while leveraging a robust supply chain. And third, we are confident it will enable us to take greater advantage of the complementary operational cost synergies that exist between our businesses.
Speaker 4: Since we purchased the convertible notes in HEXO in July of last year, the HEXO team has made significant strides in reducing cost, improving profitability by making changes to their operations, and participating in our joint cost savings efforts.
Speaker 4: Upon completion of the next phase of this transaction, we intend to achieve additional cost savings and synergies in access of 25M dollars on an annualized basis.
Speaker 4: The HEXO transaction, which we expect to be accreted to earnings upon achieving synergies and savings, is expected to close in June 2023 and will consist of a purchase price of approximately $56 million payable through the issuance of Tilray's common stock.
Speaker 4: Upon the expected closing in June of 23, we will integrate HEXO operations into Tilray's Canadian infrastructure across manufacturing, cultivation, operations, sales and marketing and corporate. We also expect to leverage Redecant's state-of-the-art grow facility to provide a safe and efficient solution to the crisis.
Speaker 4: for our low-cost production business and we are evaluating the utilization and the optimization of Nissan and Gatineau, Quebec for new opportunities including the premium berry and vegetable business.
Speaker 4: Our management team has a proven track record optimizing operations and setting and achieving synergy targets.
Speaker 4: So our confidence in our ability to deliver the synergies we've identified in HEXO acquisition is very strong.
Speaker 4: Turning now to how we executed in the third quarter. Tilray Brands sustained and grew the top line while continuing to strengthen our balance sheet through cost-cutting initiatives and related steps to optimizing the platform amid complicated market dynamics across Canada, Europe and the US.
Speaker 4: This work includes a very deliberate decision to accelerate our path to positive free cash flow driven by the following priorities.
Speaker 4: First, maximizing revenue and growth in our profitable core business, which entails maintaining our number one leading position across Canada, and that has been since 2020, and continuing to expand and grow our cannabis market share across Canada, the largest federally legal cannabis market in the world.
Speaker 4: We anticipated the HEXO acquisition will continue to contribute substantially to this objective. Solidifying our leadership status and growing market share in medical cannabis across our international markets, establishing new market opportunities as medical legalizations continue to take hold, and setting our business up to capture the adult use market.
Speaker 4: when legalization occurs.
Speaker 4: and winning in the U.S. through our leading and profitable portfolio of craft beverage alcohol and wellness consumer products brands, which resonates powerfully with consumers and are a dearly positioned in key markets. When federal cannabis legalization does occur, we will leverage these U.S. businesses.
Speaker 4: and their distribution and marketing network to capture new expensive opportunities across the US and through the creation of a broad set of cannabis infused CPG brands.
Speaker 4: Second, we are diligently optimizing the efficiencies of our global operations and driving the disciplines and accountability. Then sure, we remain a low cost producer in the cannabis business and our other businesses. This includes realizing substantial cost savings and synergies in our business.
Speaker 4: discontinuing certain partnerships, and exiting certain unprofitable businesses in order to focus our resources on the businesses that are driving profitability and cash flow. These aren't easy decisions, but we made them early, and they're unquestionably the right ones to make. And third, we are strengthening our industry-leading balance sheet.
Speaker 4: competitive positioning that we believe will deliver profitability and stockholder returns in the long term.
Speaker 4: Now to review our performance in Canada over the past quarter. In Canada, the most notable challenge is price compression, which impacted us by approximately $28 million year to date. Almost all, which drops to the bottom line and negatively impacted EBITDA by approximately $26 million for the nine months.
Speaker 4: Because of price compression, excise tax has become a larger percentage of each sale and is Exacerbating the cost of excise tax which is calculated largely as a fixed price per gram versus a percentage of purchase price Kilray
Speaker 4: has paid approximately $120 million Canadian in excise tax and corporate income tax in the last 12 months of the Canadian government, with the majority coming off the top line, sales, and impacting the bottom line. No question, the Canadian government has been the most profitable cannabis business in our industry.
Speaker 4: In order to rectify this imbalance, we continue to work with the government to reduce inequitable taxes between the legal and the illicit cannabis industry.
Speaker 4: In short, the difficult operating conditions in Canada that we've described in recent quarters persist, including ongoing price compression, strained retailer cash flows, and exorbitant excise taxes.
Speaker 4: There also continues to be almost 1000 LPs, up 300 since we started to report numbers last year in the market, but we are starting to see some consolidation as both the LPs and the retail store levels, as well as some inventory levels normalization across the retail market.
Speaker 4: Against this backdrop, the strength of our brands has enabled us to maintain our number one market share position. In Q3, which was 73 basis points ahead of the number 2 LP, our adult use recreational brand Good Supply continues to be the number one brand in Canada.
Speaker 4: with 6% of the market. Thank you for joining Q3.
Speaker 4: Excluding Quebec, our share across Canada was up 43 basis points in Q3 versus Q2, with solid improvements in Ontario and British Columbia. And we're seeing this trend continue as we venture Q4.
Speaker 4: To provide some further insight in performance of Canada, volume deliver was flat in Q3 versus Q2, reflecting continued price compression in the marketplace.
Speaker 4: Taken together, we saw $3 million of price compression in Q3 results. This has slowed significantly from Q2, where there was a $12 million of price compression. We do believe we're starting to see the floor on price compression in the marketplace.
Speaker 4: From a category standpoint, dried flower continues to be a standout, up almost 7% from Q2, and double the industry performance. However, we're not resting on this achievement. Our beta program continues to provide us with a pipeline of new strains, and we have recently made changes to our post-harvesting processes, which will ensure our good supply brand is
Speaker 4: continues to provide consumers strong value at competitive price points. In our international businesses, we're focused on three strategic priorities. solidifying our leadership position and growing market share in medical cannabis in the countries around the world in which we participate today.
Speaker 4: Achieving early mover advantage in new countries as medical legalization continues to take hold. And of course ensuring strong positioning to capture the adult use market upon adult use cannabis legalization.
Speaker 4: As we do this, we're optimizing our international platform, including working to remove approximately $8 million of costs from our European businesses, of which we've already achieved $2.6 million to date. In order to achieve long-term profitable growth, in the event that only medical cannabis legalization continues to proliferate, we believe that we're well positioned to achieve the goal of reducing the cost of our own health.
Speaker 4: for success driven by the following competitive differentiation. Our high quality medical cannabis brands which are trusted by patients, healthcare professionals and government officials around the world.
Speaker 4: Our on-rival platform of assets resources through our cultivation facilities in both Portugal and Germany, and our medical distribution network led by our integrated CC-Pharma and medical cannabis teams, with relationships across 13,000 pharmacies.
Speaker 4: Based on these strengths to date, we built upon momentum in Poland with a rapid and substantial increase in our sales of medical cannabis. We received market authorization for two additional medical cannabis extracts in Italy, which we'll distribute through our wholly owned subsidiary FL Group, one of the only five companies in Italy to distribute medical cannabis extracts.
Speaker 4: that is authorized by the Italian Ministry of Health to import and distribute medical cannabis. And we've expanded our European footprint across the Czech Republic through a new export and distribution partnership.
Speaker 4: In the event of adult use cannabis legalization, we believe we're strongly positioned to seize on the opportunities based on our differentiators and the industry leading expertise we have as a market leader in Canada and through the deep CPG experience in our management team.
Speaker 4: Turning now to the U.S. and our CPG portfolio, in the U.S. participation in the adult use cannabis market is integral to our long-term strategy. However, as we've said in the past, we will not engage businesses that touch cannabis plants if cannabis remains federally illegal in the U.S.
Speaker 4: In the meantime, we're optimizing the value of our existing high potential U.S. businesses, which consists of five craft beverage alcohol brands and wellness brands.
Speaker 4: The largest of our beverage brand is Sweetwater, headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia. With a nationwide infrastructure spanning 44 states and innovation driven culture, Sweetwater is now growing into a true national leading craft beer brand.
Speaker 4: Building on innovation, earlier this year, the brand launched a new consumer-focused Brewers including a new Crisp Logger, Gone Trippin', a West Coast-style IPA, both of which are now available across Sweetwater's national footprint. We're also excited to continue our largest music event in the Southeast.
Speaker 4: Sweetwater 4-20 fist, which will be held at our flagship brewery in Atlanta this year on April 22nd and April 23rd. Come visit. In addition to growing Sweetwater, we're extremely proud to expand our two iconic Southern California brands, Alpine Beer and Alpine Beer.
Speaker 4: which just opened a stadium anchoring taproom at Petco Park and Green Flash.
Speaker 4: We vastly expanded distribution of both through our partnerships with Reyes, the largest beer distributed in the US, and we're confident by their position for ongoing growth.
Speaker 4: And Montauk Brewing Company, which we acquired last year, is the fastest selling craft beer brand and the number one craft brewer in New York.
Speaker 4: We were recently able to expand its distribution by approximately 10% in the 1st, 4 months since our acquisition. It is now available in over 3500 retail locations across the Northeast, including expanded distribution across New York, New Jersey, entrance into Connecticut and Rhode Island.
Speaker 4: We are confident that Montauk Brewing has the potential to grow in true national brand, which will accomplish by leveraging Sweetwater's infrastructure to significantly expand Montauk Brewing, including entry into markets outside of its existing footprint.
Speaker 4: Finally, our Bourbon and Spirits brand Breckenridge Distillery continues to firmly establish its position as a category leader, winning key influential awards including Best American Blended Whiskey, Best American Blended Limited Release, Best American Blended Malt, and most recently..
Speaker 4: World's best blended whiskey in whiskey magazines. 2023 World Whiskey Awards. Today Breckenridge Distillery is distributed all 50 states and aligned nationally with RNDC with a distribution contract.
Speaker 4: guaranteeing nearly 30% sales growth annually. Breckenridge Distillery continues to build momentum for continued strong performance.
Speaker 4: Turning now to our wellness segment. Focusing on Manitoba Harvest branded hemp business, the brand continues to expand in the US and Canada, leading market share positions.
Speaker 4: including a better than 50% dollar share within branded hemp seed, strong dollar growth in the mule and natural channels. And in the latest 12 weeks reporting period, it also continues to deliver dollar growth of each of its top 8 major US retailers, including Sprouts,
Speaker 4: Walmart, Kroger, and its market share in Canada remains at nearly 80%.
Speaker 4: The drivers of growth include distribution expansion, a strong innovation pipeline, and new pricing actions.
Speaker 4: to offset cost inflation coupled with an ever increasing consumer interest in hand products.
Speaker 4: Given the key role they can play in plant-based, low-carb and keto diets, which are very popular today. In Q3, Tilray Wellness also introduced a new CBD wellness beverage, Happy Flower, during the dry January via a direct-to-consumer ecommerce platform.
Speaker 4: Happy Flower offers non-alcoholic cocktails infused with CBD that meets the needs of Gen Z and millennial consumers. We'll look to efficiently launch and expand the brand in key markets throughout the remainder of 2023, focusing on states with CBZ permissibility and established CBD sales. And as announced last week,
Speaker 4: We're expanding our distribution with Whole Foods Market with the launch of the brand's first regenerated organic certified hemp hearts.
Speaker 4: We believe our wellness platform continues to be an important part of our U.S. strategy, providing us with deep connection to our consumers and our customers.
Speaker 4: We look forward to building even a greater scale of our wellness business in the near and long term.
Speaker 4: Now before I turn the call over to our CFO , Karl Murtan, I want to provide some context around the reduction in our net assets reported in Q3, which includes a non-cash 1.1 billion impairment charge resulting from higher interest rates and a decline in our market cap in recent quarters.
Speaker 4: This non-cash accounting charge does not at all change our strong conviction.
Speaker 4: in our ability to accelerate our path to positive free cash flow, positions our company for profitable growth across the markets we serve, and delivers on our foremost priority, generating value for our shareholders. The market is challenging right now, but we have the right strategy in place.
Speaker 4: to preserve the strong position we are in across our markets, as well as our financial flexibility that we're executing on. With that, I now will turn the call over to Karl to discuss the financials in greater detail. Karl, thank you Erwin. Given the challenging environment affecting the economy as a whole and our industry...
Speaker 5: free cash flow, even if it inhibited generating additional adjusted EBITDA in the near term.
Speaker 5: For our financial review, we present our results in accordance with US GAAP and in US dollars, and we'll reference both GAAP and non-GAAP adjusted results throughout our discussion.
Speaker 5: Our earnings press release contains a reconciliation of our reported results under gap to the non-GAAP measures identified during our remarks.
Speaker 5: Let's begin with the significant non-cash reduction in our net assets we took during the quarter. A situation that has become very common in the CPG and cannabis industries over the last 12 months.
Speaker 5: Importantly, the review of our net assets and the calculation of the non-cash reduction was not a function of our belief in our business plan or changes in our view as to the future of our business units.
Speaker 5: As noted by Irwin, this non-cash accounting charge was almost entirely led by changes in our market cap.
Speaker 5: To explain further, due to the decline in our market cap between the last day of our fiscal Q2 and the last day of our fiscal Q3, together with the rising interest rate environment, particularly in risk-free interest rates, the accounting test for indicators of impairment was triggered.
Speaker 5: The first step in this process required us to update our forecast based on current expectations of the business.
Speaker 5: This reassessment had a negligible impact on the impairment calculation itself.
Speaker 5: But we then had to reassess the discount rate applied to this forecast due to the sharp increase in risk-free interest rates over the last nine months.
Speaker 5: This increase in interest rates led to 100 million of the non-cash asset rate down during the quarter.
Speaker 5: Next, we had to assess the carrying value of our assets, including intangibles and goodwill, against our current market cap. And with reduction in our market cap, it led us to record an additional $1.1 billion non-cash reduction in our net assets.
Speaker 5: This non-cash reduction was allocated as $55 million to inventory.
Speaker 5: $54.8 million to the hexo convertible note. $104 million to capital assets.
Speaker 5: $38.7 million to other assets, $205 million to intangible assets, and $618.5 million to goodwill.
Speaker 5: Overall, the allocation resulted in non-cash asset reductions of $15 million in the wellness segment and the remainder of the non-cash reductions in the cannabis segment.
Speaker 5: The non-cash reduction to inventory was also recorded in contemplation of our acquisition of HEXO to align our inventories to meet the future demands we see in the market.
Speaker 5: It is notable here that between the time we first announced the Toray Afria transaction in December 2020, and when we closed on the transaction in May 2021, the share price of Afria rose dramatically due to investor enthusiasm over US federal legalization.
Speaker 5: This surge in Afreea's share price directly led to an increase of $1.4 billion in the purchase price of Tilray.
Speaker 5: which itself led to an increase of 1.4 billion dollars of intangible assets, a value that is higher than the non-cash reduction we announced today.
Speaker 5: Again, we do not believe these non-cash asset reductions are indicative of the significant long-term market opportunity that still exists for the federally legal cannabis market.
Speaker 5: We are therefore working hard every day to see that our vision in creating the leading and most diversified cannabis lifestyle and consumer packaged goods company in the world. Across adult use and medical cannabis, beverage, alcohol and wellness consumer products is achieved.
Speaker 5: Now, with that, I will discuss our results for the quarter.
Speaker 5: For the quarter, net revenue increased slightly to $145.6 million from the prior quarter of $144.1 million.
Speaker 5: On a constant currency basis, net revenue rose to 154.2M from 151.9M in the prior year period.
Speaker 5: Reported negative gross profit for Q3 was 11.7 million compared to gross profit of 39.8 million in the year ago quarter. Included in this quarter's result was a non-cash reduction in inventory related to the previously discussed reduction in non-cash carrying value of our net assets.
Speaker 5: However, adjusted gross profit for Q3 was $44.3 million, up 11% from last year.
Speaker 5: Adjusted gross margin rose to 30% from 26% in the prior year quarter. This was made possible by our success in implementing numerous cost saving programs.
Speaker 5: including offsetting part of our allocated overhead for intentionally reducing cannabis production.
Speaker 5: From the 30 million dollar cost optimization plan that we first announced in Q4 last year, we achieved 22 million dollars on an annualized run rate basis, of which 12 million represented actual cost savings during Q3. Net loss was 1.2 billion.
Speaker 5: compared to net loss of $61.6 million in the prior quarter and net income of $52.5 million in the year-ago quarter.
Speaker 5: Net loss for the quarter is tied to our quarterly Goodwill impairment review. From an adjusted net loss perspective, our loss was 4 cents per share. Adjusted EBITDA was 14 million dollars, marking our 16th consecutive quarter of adjusted positive EBITDA, and a significant increase from Q3 last year of almost 40%.
Speaker 5: despite the decline in revenue. Operating cash flow for the quarter improved to a loss of $18.6 million from a loss of $46.4 million in the prior year period, a substantial improvement.
Speaker 5: The decrease in cast use was primarily related to improved operating efficiencies realized through our synergy programs and management of our working capital requirements. From a free cash flow perspective, we reported a 19.5 million dollar use of free cash flow primarily as a result of working capital changes.
Speaker 5: More specifically, during the quarter we used $0.8 million of cash on CapEx.
Speaker 5: We used $1.4 million on operating our businesses. And we use $17.3 million on managing working capital. The cash used on operating our businesses of $1.4 million is the lowest level reported since we first brought a free until rate together and demonstrate the steps we continue to take.
Speaker 5: to remove costs and better balance revenue and costs across all our business units. Cash used in or provided by working capital changes is expected to fluctuate on a quarter by quarter basis.
Speaker 5: Today, we are also reiterating our guidance with respect to reporting positive free cash flow from our operating segments for fiscal 2023.
Speaker 5: While we are not currently a positive free cash flow for the year, our fourth quarter is expected to make significant ground in this measure.
Speaker 5: Turning to our business segments, gross cannabis revenue comprised $6 million in Canadian medical cannabis revenue, $45.3 million in Canadian adult use revenue, and $9.7 million in international cannabis revenue.
Speaker 5: These were collectively offset by 13.6 million of excise taxes.
Speaker 5: Excise taxes continue to significantly impact our gross revenue. Tilray paid almost $120 million Canadian in the last 12 months to the Canadian government and excise corporate taxes.
Speaker 5: This substantial tax burden adds to the challenges facing the cannabis industry today.
Speaker 5: More importantly, Tilray is one of the few licensed producers in Canada that pays taxes when due and is not using the Canadian government as a de facto financing arm.
Speaker 5: Net cannabis revenue was $47.5 million, representing a 14% decline from the year ago period. The variance was mostly related to a reduction in international cannabis revenue and to a lesser extent, lower wholesale cannabis revenue and Canadian medical cannabis revenue. On a constant currency basis, the market is at a lower rate than the global market. The market is at a lower rate than the global market. The market is at a lower rate than the global market.
Speaker 5: net cannabis revenue declined by 7% as the decline in the Canadian dollar and euro resulted in a $3.5 million decrease compared to the prior year quarter.
Speaker 5: Price compression, while slowing, continued to have a marked impact on our results. For the fiscal year to date, our revenues are down $28 million directly as a result of price compression in Canada, of which virtually all also represented a reduction in EBITDA. In the quarter,
Speaker 5: Our Canadian Cannabis Wholesale team met with a significant number of licensed producers about becoming their B2B outsourced partner.
Speaker 5: Even though the results of those conversations did not lead to wholesale sales this quarter, we have secured multiple outsourced partners and continue to work with many more. Adjusted cannabis gross profit increased to 22.2M from 18M in the prior year quarter, while the gross margin percentage increased to 47% from 33%.
Speaker 5: as well as a decrease in the utilization of our cannabis facilities to manage demand requirements.
Speaker 5: Distribution revenue, which is derived predominantly through CC Pharma, increased 5% to 65.4 million from 62.5 million in the prior year quarter. Despite the strengthening of the US dollar relative to the euro.
Speaker 5: On a constant currency basis, revenue would have actually increased 12% to 70.1 million for an additional 4.7 million dollars of revenue.
Speaker 5: Distribution gross profit increased 49% to 7.4 million from 5 million in the prior year quarter. While distribution gross margin increased to 11% from 8%.
Speaker 5: These increases were the result of a positive change in product mix and are focused on higher margin sales, including the decision to exit the medical device reprocessing line.
Speaker 5: Looking ahead, we think we can continue to drive larger business profit margins despite not increasing revenue as we approach full utilization of our facility.
Speaker 5: Turning to our beverage alcohol segment, we generated 20.6M in net revenue, which was slightly higher than the prior year quarter of 19.6M.
Speaker 5: The Delta was primarily due to our acquisition of Montauk in November 2022.
Speaker 5: We remain bullish on expanding the segment over time as we leverage our increased distribution, regain brand acceptance with Green Fosh and Alpine, foster brand acceptance for Sweetwater in California.
Speaker 5: build out an extensive innovation pipeline, and of course potentially pursue other acquisitions.
Speaker 5: Adjusted beverage alcohol gross profit was $11 million compared to $11.5 million in the prior year quarter.
Speaker 5: While adjusted gross margin was 53%, a slight decline from 59% as a result of the Montauk acquisition that was not completed in the prior period comparison and operates at a slightly lower margin than Sweetwater.
Speaker 5: Also, Sweetwater's operations in Colorado in the current period had a negative impact on the margin as it is still in the startup phase.
Speaker 5: Finally, for our wellness segment, revenue decreased 18% to 12M from 14.7M in Q3 last year.
Speaker 5: The decrease in revenue was due to a reduction in customer inventory levels at warehouse locations across North America. And a pullback on margin dilutive non-branded sales that led to top line declines in the quarter versus the prior year.
Speaker 5: Adjusted Wellness Gross Profit was $3.7 million, down from $5.4 million in the prior year quarter.
Speaker 5: while gross margin decreased to 31% from 36% through the impacts of higher input costs of seed ingredients as a result of inflation.
Speaker 5: However, the increase in prices during Q2 to combat the inflation impacts resulted in a consistent margin from the immediately preceding quarter. Our cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities balance as of February 28th was 408.3 million dollars, up 129 million from the 279.2 million in the year-ago period.
Speaker 5: Given our quarterly and fiscal year performance to date against the backdrop of macroeconomic challenging near-term market conditions, we are lowering our expectation of adjusted EBITDA generation to between $60 and $66 million.
Speaker 5: an increase of over 30% from last year. However, as I already indicated, we are still projecting being free cash flow positive across all business segments for the year.
Speaker 5: To conclude, while the quarter was challenging in many respects, largely due to market interest rates and our market cap, we are committed to ensuring that our cost structure is consistent with our revenue expectations.
Speaker 5: Minimizing capex.
Speaker 5: improving our industry-leading balance sheets, reducing debt, and driving free cash flow.
Speaker 5: With that, I will conclude our prepared remarks and open the lines for questions from our covering analysts.
Speaker 5: Afterwards, we will take a few questions from our shareholders through the SAIT platform.
Speaker 5: we will take a few questions from our shareholders through the SAVE platform. Operator, what's the first question?
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Speaker 2: Thank you. And our first question is from Vivian Azer with TD Cowen. Please proceed with your question. Hi. Good afternoon and thank you. I'm sure it's a long queue so I'll just keep it to one. On the HEXO deal, I really wanted to focus on why now.
Speaker 3: You guys have clearly had the strategic relationship in place, shared cost savings already occurring. As I'm really curious, is this more top line motivated or more cost cutting motivated? Because on the top line, it seems like the market share gap between you and number two, the HEXO, shrunk about over 100 basis points sequentially. So I'm wondering how much of a factor that plays into the timing versus the timing versus the timing.
Speaker 4: just the cost cutting and whether it kind of run its course in consolidation was the next logical step. So if you can comment on the why now, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Good afternoon, Vivian, and thank you. I think Vivian, there's multiple reasons here. Number one, I think the Canadian market has to consolidate. You know, you heard me talk about price compression, where we've lost, you know, $28 million in the first nine months, and that comes right off the bottom line, affects our earnings, affects our EBITDA. Secondly is, you know, listen, there's still a big illicit market there.
Speaker 4: The market out there is fragmented with over a thousand LPs. The market has multiple retail stores. So with this, this gives us close to a 13% share. And as we spend time with the Redecan team, the Hexo team, Redecan, which we think is a great asset.
Speaker 4: The Maison facility is a great asset and we think there's lots of opportunities there. And just think about it. You know, how hard it is for us to achieve, you know, earnings in Canada. And with that, putting these three companies together, Afria, Tilray and now Hexo.
Speaker 4: There'll be over $25-$30 million of savings over the next couple of years. We think we can really grow the Redecam brand and the flower, the oil business and their Reddies. We think there's lots of opportunities. So, you know, it made sense and where the stock was, it ultimately made sense for Tilray shareholders. We hope that we can grow the Redecam brand and the flower, the oil business and their Reddies. We think there'll be over $25-$30 million of savings over the next couple of years.
Speaker 3: Okay, and nothing on cost really?
Speaker 4: Well, I think costs again, you know, as I said before, you know, is consolidation is something that has to happen here. And I think is, is there moving, you know, some of the grow from Mason into our Leamington facilities, utilizing the same infrastructure of the sales organization, the marketing organization, the distribution organization, the purchasing organization.
Speaker 4: So, listen Vivian, if we can get $25 to $30 million of cost savings in each year, get an additional $25 to $30 million in gross margin from this business. And at the end of the day, you know, we think for Tilray shareholders, we paid about $55 million, $56 million for this business.
Speaker 4: and you think about it ultimately what Redecan and you think about what other assets have sold for. It's a great deal out there for shareholders and it's a great deal out there for pre-journey. Listen, the Canadian market has to change and I think today with Tilray taking that leading position out there. And you know the biggest winner in Canada today is the Canadian government.
Speaker 4: where we pay over $120 million between excise tax and taxes. And you know, HEXO pays $35 million, so ultimately it also will give us some clout to go to the Canadian government and say something has to change here in this marketplace. And you know what Vivian, one day legalization will happen in the U.S.
Speaker 4: And with the facilities that we have in Leamington, what we now have, you know, in Gatineau, what we have in the Redican facility in regards to its limbs and its flowers and its craft growing, we're really set up for, you know, US, whether we can NAFTA with free trade and ship into the US.
Speaker 4: We're really set up for international business so it takes Tilray to the next level and we're ready for the cannabis business in a big way whether legalization happens or not in the US or happens in Europe . So I think it's a great deal and you know what the other thing is, not too many times you get to look at a company and spend the last 9 to 11 months being their partner here.
Speaker 4: And we should be able to integrate this pretty easy and get all the synergies and savings. So I'm really excited about this. Yeah, no, absolutely. The prior relationships certainly helped. Thanks. It creates a lot of value at the end of the day for both shareholder base. And I think that's the important thing here and it also will create a lot of value for consumers out there to expand distribution. So it's a win win deal. The second most important link here is TODD, the
Speaker 4: Vivian, trust me, and it's not us. There's other consolidation that got to happen in the Canadian market. You can't have over a thousand LPs out there and you know Canada, the size of the country that it is, just stand alone and hope you know the industry changes. As I said, the biggest cannabis company in Canada today is the Canadian government with the excise tax.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is from Andrew Carter with Stifel. Please proceed with your question. Hey, thanks. I want to build on Vivian's question about kind of the why now with HEXO and doing this transaction. I mean, bringing a free artillery together, perhaps it was a time when new entrants were accelerating, but I don't know correctly what the answer is. I mean, I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question.
Speaker 6: or have dynamics changed in the market?
Speaker 4: So Andrew, good afternoon and thank you for the question. I think it's an excellent question. And when we looked at it, I think it's very complimentary. You know, Redican has its limbs, Redican has its craft growth flower out there, Redican has its oils. Hexo has a strong platform in the Quebec market out there. So it's very complimentary to us out there. Hexo does not have really an international.
Speaker 4: to become that low-cost producer. You got to remember in Canada, no matter if there's price compression, the excise tax remains the same.
Speaker 4: So for us to get the profitability you want, you got to get bigger. And with a thousand LPs out there, it's harder to get bigger by just stealing share or you wait for a lot of them to go out of business. But you know, the big thing here is consolidation is key and I think this really sets us up. It sets us up to talk to the Canadian government regards to excise tax.
Speaker 4: it comes back and sort of with a certain provinces and you know, like I said before the Vivian, you know, we had the ability to be, you know, 49% owner of Hexo and I think it's no shock to anybody that this has happened now and you know, it's nine months and it's the right thing for both companies. Okay. Same question I'd ask and in the write down, there were some on the MedMen Superhero Venture.
Speaker 4: I think MedMen still has one of the best known brand names in the MSO and the cannabis business in the US. And what it does for us, Andrew, it puts us, upon legalization, we now have a great brand in MedMen, if that was to come to be. We have a great name within Sweetwater if it wanted to go into the cannabis world with infused drinks and stuff like that. So,
Speaker 4: The big thing with Tilray today, it's really set up in the Canadian market today between Hexo Tilray and Afria to have close to a 13% share. We're really set up in Europe , in Germany and Portugal and selling 20 countries today for a medical and if cannabis is legalized tomorrow in Germany, we're ready for the recreational.
Speaker 4: you know adult use in the German market or any other market. And then in the US with Sweetwater, with Montauk Brewery, with Breckenridge, you know we have a strong business there today in the consumer area where it's very easy for us to do infused drinks or one day you know ultimately is it edibles or you know is it you know pre-rolls etcetera.
Speaker 4: We're set up and ultimately the only thing holding us back is legalization, but in the meantime we have some great markets that we can operate in today, whether it's cannabis, whether it's beer, whether it's spirits, whether it's wellness food, or whether it's our medical cannabis business.
Speaker 4: ultimately the only thing holding us back is legalization but in the meantime we have some great markets that we can operate in today whether it's cannabis whether it's beer whether it's spirits whether it's wellness food or whether it's our medical cannabis business. Thanks I'll pass it on.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. And our next question is from Aaron Gray with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed with your question. Hi, good evening and thank you for the questions. You've stabilized your market share over at tail right, but HEXO has still been experiencing share losses. Some of it's intentional because they've been simplifying their SKU count.
Speaker 4: I'm just curious in terms of how you look at some of the SKU overlap. You talked a lot about reticam, but also think about original fast. Do you feel like there still might need to be some more simplification of the SKU count as you now are 100% consolidating density? How do you think about that going forward? Thank you. Aaron, hi. How are you? So I'm going to answer part of it, then I'm going to turn it over to Blair McDeel who's here with us.
Speaker 4: our president of our Canadian market. But I think, listen, you know, HEXO has gone through its challenges and I think the team there, you know, under Charlie Bowman and Marc Antiseo have done a great job in regards to cutting costs. I think that was the big thing. How do we stay alive by cutting costs?
Speaker 4: And it was not the focus on growing some of the brands, growing some of the businesses, and there's a lot of legacy stuff out there. I think now, it's now time to take HEXO to the next step with its brands, with its products, with its strains, and with its abilities. And we really have seen that. Blair, you want to add to that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks everyone and thanks for the call Erin. Overall, I would say we mentioned earlier about the complementariness of the categories. Hexo strengthen straight edge, pre roll their strengthened oils and then some of their strengthened flour, especially in mainstream flour with the red.
Speaker 4: brands get talked about and we think that's going to provide an upside across the board for both of us and it's going to make conversations with retailers much more valuable for them and us and so I really see a good benefit for HEXO on that front. And Aaron I think what retailers want to see is a strong Canadian market.
Speaker 4: They want to see a strong leader that's going to set the path here for growth. They're going to see a strong leader that's going to want innovation and going to be able to invest in brands, invest in product, invest in innovation, invest in quality and control. And, you know, Tilray is ready to do that. So, and like I said,
Speaker 4: If you come back and look after Tilray, there's a lot of other great companies out there. But I think like anything, whether it's the soda industry, whether it's consumer packaged goods industry, there's got to be a leader out there that really can evolve and change the industry. And I think we have the infrastructure in place in sales, marketing, distribution, grow, innovation to really fold in Hexo, which we did with Tilray. And one plus one hopefully is going to equal five. So, thank you.
Speaker 4: Thanks for that comment. That's really helpful. Just a quick one for me. The 25 million on Synergies, can you provide some detail on how much of that split between positive and SGA and then just timing of when your switch has to be realized? Thank you. So the 25 million on Synergies is just $25 million. I think that's really helpful to me.
Speaker 4: On top of that, you get them once and then after that, it's the contribution margin that we start to get from the operations of the businesses.
Speaker 4: to get them once and then after that, it's the contribution margin that we start to get from the operation of the businesses. Okay, all right, great. Thanks, another bunch of kids.
Speaker 2: Thank you. And our next question is from Tammy Chen with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Please proceed
Speaker 3: Thanks. I just have one question and it's about your footprint in Canada. I'm curious to hear your perspective on, you know, why not consider possibly reducing the square footage permanently because the Canadian market, as you said, is quite challenged. It's taking a while for...
Speaker 3: some of the competitors to exit the industry. And you have a pretty sizable footprint. I'm not sure how much you're able to backfill essentially via that produce initiative that you're talking about. So Owen, are you able to just elaborate a bit more on how you think about that? And I also wonder, being a wholesaler for other LPs, like you've just gotten more expensive, do you think all theozers use Muss colonization great Press or otherwise like basically the like Pat Forrester question is, is air space again commute or digital space like a
Speaker 4: aren't you essentially aiding some of your competitors through that initiative? Thanks. Tammy, really good question and you know between you know all our growth facilities today I mean it's probably four and a half to five million square feet for a Canadian market that's a lot of growth facilities okay.
Speaker 4: So with that you're 100% right. And these facilities, I mean the HEXO facility that was built, you know, it was probably a quarter of a billion dollars of an asset that was spent there. So it's an incredible asset that has a lot of other value in greenhouses that, you know, there's tremendous demand out there for premium vegetables and fruit.
Speaker 4: sale business. The name of our company is Tilray Brands and we're out there to build brands.
Speaker 4: we're not out there to be a wholesaler and a grower to cannabis and you know enable other cannabis companies to have product. So there is a big opportunity with Maison, it's a state-of-the-art facility and we're going to look to do other things than just grow cannabis there. Okay I thought I
Speaker 4: But that's not going to be a major part of our business. You know, we have a major canning line in London, Ontario. You know, we'd look to potentially do some canning for, you know, other companies out there. You know, we have the ability to do edibles, but that's not, you know, if you come back and look at our business today, our business is to build brands. Our business is to grow products for ourselves, not be that third-party grower out there.
Speaker 4: I will tell you we'll do some of that, but ultimately that's not, you know, a big part of our business planning going forward. Okay, I understand. Thank you.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. And our next question is from Federico Gomez with ATB Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Hi, good evening. Thank you for taking my question. I just have one question, maybe just moving away from the HEXO deal. I'm just wondering if you have any thoughts on the international side.
Speaker 7: We've seen some news out of Germany recently that could mean a delay in terms of full scale legalization in that country. I'm just curious, what sort of impact do you believe that could have in other countries legalizing cannabis in Europe ? Will that delay that and how does that impact your view of those markets?
Speaker 4: percentage of those consumers that are getting medical cards or getting prescriptions for recreational. Okay. And that continues to grow tremendously. And ultimately, I think
Speaker 4: you know, Germany there's something will happen. Listen, we're seeing medical cannabis, you know, ultimately will be legal in France. A country like Poland, we're seeing tremendous growth in countries like that. Denise?
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you Erwin. So just building on Erwin's answer. So you are right there seems like there is a little bit of a delay as Germany works with the EU in order to determine a framework that works both for Germany as well as the rest of the European Union. And we've recently heard from Health Minister Lauterbach.
Speaker 2: that they're working on a legislative scheme that would provide legalization as broadly as possible, but really trying to not run afoul of the EU rules. So we're waiting to hear what that framework looks like.
Speaker 2: They were supposed to release something last week that got a little bit delayed. We're hoping to see something soon. But as Irwin mentioned, we're not waiting for adult use legalization in order to really continue to grow and look to expand our business. Yes, we are very well positioned for adult use depending upon when it happens.
Speaker 2: market for several years now. And in the event that the scheme says that only in country cultivation is allowed in Germany, we are only one of three companies that actually have a facility in Germany today. So we're set up depending upon several different
Speaker 2: Ways of the regulations could shake out, but as Erwin mentioned, even if we never have adult use, we are very well set up for medical. We have a brand that is considered to be highly reputable based on the feedback that we receive from healthcare professionals from government regulators from patients.
Speaker 2: We were synonymous with very high quality, sustainable, consistent medical cannabis. We will continue to grow that business and look to see how do we continue to succeed without the legalization of adult use. I think the big thing is today, we have facilities both in Portugal and Germany. To go and really build out facilities and have that catalyst there.
Speaker 4: quasi, you know, legal rec business and that's ultimately what's happening, you know, in that marketplace.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I'll hold back and take you. Thank you. Our next question is from John Zamparo with CIBC. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 5: Thanks, good afternoon. I'll stick to one also since we're past an hour. And it's back to the HEXO deal. I think most of us, or maybe all of us are of the view there needs to be more consolidation in this sector. But at the same time, acquisitions in gaining cannabis historically haven't really lived up to expectations. Typically that seems to be because sales fall at acquired brands post acquisition.
Speaker 4: I think about the Afreea Tilray merger, even with the 100 million plus of cost synergies EBITDA is similar to where it was before that merger and the Tilray legacy brands' retail sales declined meaningfully. I wonder why you expect this deal to be different and specifically what can you share that you've learned from the Afreea Tilray merger that you think can help avoid Hexo's revenues from falling off and help you make the Hexo deal more successful? Thank you. I know I'm okay with saying that– I'm happy to say that this will be open for general doctor techno- There is a lot of lab Siddhartha's unavailable today in this case follow up
Speaker 4: Every time we do a deal, we learn from it, John and I think that's important. And I think going back and looking at, you know, the till Ray. A free deal at the time number 1, there was a lot less out there. Secondly. You know, it was during Colvin that happened and purposely we eliminated a lot of strains. We eliminated.
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of skews out there to go ahead with it. And I think, you know, the big thing on Tilray was ultimately it's medical business, it's European business, it's canning business, there was just other attributes that complemented the businesses. Now with that, we had price compression this year, close to $30 million, price compression last year.
Speaker 4: and you didn't have a thousand LPs. So, I think it's just different times. Ultimately, you come back and look at value. I mean, again, Tilray shareholders are getting great value here if you compare to what ultimately Redecan sold to for Hexo at one time, and you come back and look at multiples that have been paid for other deals out there and what we're paying.
Speaker 4: Tilray's shareholders are getting the incredible value here. Listen, we have to execute. We have to make sure, you know, we get beyond 13-14% share. We have to get these synergies and savings. But ultimately, it's there for us to go get and do.
Speaker 4: You know, I have said in previous calls, I wanted a 15 to 20% share. You're not getting a 15 to 20% share without buying someone with so many LPs. You know, I was talking to a referral today, how hard it used to be to get a license. It's so much easier to get a license today in, you know, the Canadian market to produce cannabis. So I think that's going to change. And I think ultimately it's going to
Speaker 4: deter a lot of these smaller growers out there when you see somebody today with the size of Tilray out there that's well capitalized on a balance sheet, got the brands that it does, got the grow facilities and the processing facilities to be out there. Listen, there's always opportunities out there for craft growers. There's always opportunities out there for small growers and small companies.
Speaker 4: But again, we got to make it happen. It's just not going to be handed to us on the silver platter either. And as we go into the different provinces, you know, we got to make sure we got our strategy and story right. And we got to make sure consumers want our brands. And I got to tell you, the Redecant brand, great brand.
Speaker 4: A lot of the HEXO brands are great brands. So I think the three of us coming together as one is You know a big thing for the Canadian market Okay, appreciate the color I'll pass it on. Thank you
Speaker 4: are great brands. So I think the three of us coming together as one is a big thing for the Canadian market. Okay, appreciate the color. I'll pass it on, thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Our next question is from Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your questions. Thank you. Good evening. I just wanted to come back to guidance and...
Speaker 8: Just maybe make sure you can help us understand, it looks like you would need a really significant step up in margins in the fourth quarter. And you've got a little bit of momentum there, but it would be far above anything you've done recently. Can you just give us some confidence that that's achievable?
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks thanks Michael. Great question. So I think the 1st thing we, we've had these conversations a couple of times with different people. Few things to note 1st, 1 is that Q4 is traditionally the largest quarter of the year for for the beverage alcohol category, which is really just inside of.
Speaker 5: And we've seen it every year that we've owned Sweetwater. So we have some expectations for significantly improved inside of the beverage alcohol division in Q4. When you look at the cannabis division, I think we've got a few, sorry, we have two or three things that are happening.
Speaker 5: At the same time in the quarter, the first one is as we've continued to reduce costs, a lot of those cost savings have just started to kind of finally hit inside a Q3 and you're going to see the benefit of those in Q4, that further reduction of costs. The second piece is that Q4 is our best quarter during the year for cultivation.
Speaker 5: And we see improvements in gross margin every year in Q4 as a direct result of that. I think you've also seen some of the items that are in the press release today in terms of different pieces that are going on with HEXO that will all happen in the fourth quarter. And so when you combine all of those things together, the improving results we've seen in the distribution business in the last couple
Speaker 5: quarters as they made those major changes and remove some of their product lines are really what's driving our belief and the calculation of our of our revised guidance. And I think some of the biggest thing, you know, Carl said, you know, as we started the cost savings, we're starting to see.
Speaker 4: you know, those cost savings come into effect. The second thing is price compression, the big price compression basically the $24 million were in the first two months. Now, those prices are in place, but you're seeing a lot less price compression that's out there today. And…
Speaker 4: price compression comes right off, you know, EBITDA comes right off the bottom line. So with that, we don't expect to see price compression out there. Listen, we're looking at, is there an opportunity for price increases out there where we could get it if it made sense? So there's a lot in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: a lot of great things happening in Sweetwater. We get a full quarter of Montauk and growing the distribution there. We just rolled out our Breckenridge distillery products through RNDC and getting a full benefit of that. So there's a lot of things in place as I talked about. Europe
Speaker 4: We had some bumps in Europe . Europe's really hitting on all cylinders today. I think there's some great things happening in our CC Pharma business. You heard me talk about Poland. You heard us talk about some of the other growth that's happening there. Denise and team have done a great job of taking costs out of Europe . We're looking for $8 million of costs. We got $3 to $4 million of it already, so we'll see the benefits of that.
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of moving pieces and there's a lot, yes, happening in our fourth quarter. Okay, that's helpful. And I just want to follow up on Tammy's question. You said yourself how just what a big number the four and a half to five million square feet is and you mentioned
Speaker 4: Some some berries and vegetables you can grow it at hexo's facility. Why not just cut capacity is are vegetables really so interesting that it's worth hanging on to that much. Growing space, so number 1, we have some incredible facilities with some incredible value there. Okay. So. Why just close those facilities when we see demands in the market? For categories that really, you know, the market needs it. So if we can produce high end vegetables out there where there's a big market and can sell it to multiple retailers.
Speaker 4: And why just get rid of these facilities and close them down when a lot of money has been spent on them and it can put us in unique businesses. And you know what? If there's a time that we're going to need them again for growing cannabis, they're available to us. So I think you've seen other cannabis companies out there sell these assets off for basically nothing. These are assets where a lot of money was spent on them and there's other uses to these and that's what we're going to look at other uses for these.
Speaker 3: this line item seems to have increased by 10% sequentially. So I was just wondering if you could provide any puts or takes from the quarter on what contributed to the expansion on this margin and how we should think about the cannabis margins going forward, especially with respect to the HEXO acquisition in terms of how onboarding their business would impact the performance margins. Thanks.
Speaker 5: So, um. Cannabis margin is up from the prior year, like 47% it's up to 47% from 33%. And a big reason for that increase is the HEXO advisory.
Speaker 5: fee, right? And so we've been publishing adjusted cannabis gross profit numbers to help people understand what that difference is. And so when you adjust out for the advisory fee, that gross margin is actually 35%. So it's relatively consistent with the prior year, but it is up. Okay.
Speaker 5: file. As Erwin talked about, we see great opportunities with the Redecan facility and it's low cost production that it has particularly matched against the selling prices that they're able to achieve from their products. And we've talked about the fact we're looking to use M
Speaker 5: in a different capacity and so it would not be included in that number. Okay, thanks. Thank you.
Speaker 2: and so it would not be included in that number. Okay, thanks. Thank you. That concludes our analyst questions.
Speaker 2: We will now proceed with questions submitted by stockholders on the State Technologies platform.
Speaker 2: with questions submitted by stockholders on the SAIT Technologies platform. Baron, I will pass it over to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you operator and the first question from the SAE Technologies platform is what are you doing to improve shareholder value? So number one I am not happy at all about our stock.
Speaker 4: price and I don't think it truly reflects what the value is that we're building for our shareholders today. And you think about, you know, Tilray, Papria, now Hexo, ultimately, we've been around for years and you think about the assets that we own, the countries that we're in from the global and what we're building out in brands.
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, we're doing everything we can. I have an incredible team that I work with. We have some great brands. We have a really good strategy in place. Not everything has worked out on a time in regards to legalization, say, Bank Act, and there are things that sometimes are out of our control.
Speaker 4: But with that, we are trying to build out with those shareholder value. And as I've said before, we have number one share in Canada. We're the number one cannabis company in Europe . We have some of the top beers in craft beer in the southeast in Georgia and number 10 in the country. We got some great growth going on with Montauk.
Speaker 4: And to be named the world's best whiskey out there is a major, major accomplishment. And then we have a great wellness brand that when we acquired it was losing money and now the team has turned that around. So I think there's a lot in place we're doing.
Speaker 2: to really improve our shareholder value. And I will tell you, this team is working hard for our shareholders, which we all are. Thank you. And the second and last question is, Mr. Irwin, the CEO holds around 108,000 shares of Kilroy and others on the board only hold around 10,000 shares.
Speaker 4: Why does the CEO and board have such a lack of holding in their own company? I think somebody got the wrong numbers there. First of all, it's Mr. Simon, not Mr. Irwin. And you know, right now between vested and non-vested shares, I think I hold about 3.6 million shares in stock options. I've never sold a share, not my intention to sell shares.
Speaker 4: One of the big things to compensate our employees is part of owning stock and being part of the stock ownership plan. So that is very much what our plan is. I know there's a lot of why aren't we buying back stock, but I think right now as a growth company, investing our money back into acquisitions, back in the business to get the growth to return to our shareholders. With that, I want to thank you all for joining us today, Monday, April 10th.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of news coming out of here. You know, as I always say, there were some great things that happened. There's some good things and we recognize the challenges out there. And we recognize the challenges in today's environment. I got to tell you, I've been doing this for a long time. Absolutely. The cannabis industry is a tough industry, but there's no easy industry. But we recognize the challenges out there. In the meantime, considering where Afreea was back in 2019,
Speaker 4: And where Afria, Tilray and now Hexa will be is a tremendous accomplishment for us as that low-cost producer, as that company that has the brands, that has the infrastructure in place to sell, market, grow. And the industry is changing dramatically.
Speaker 4: But stepping back and looking at Tilray today, we were out front to diversify. We knew we couldn't come into the U.S. and touch a plane, but we have a very successful CPG business with our beer business, with our bourbon business, and our wellness food businesses. We have a very strong business in Europe with our CC Pharma, which originally we wondered why we own it, but hey.
Speaker 4: markets like Poland, Czech Republic, and really have expanded its distribution. And Europe will legalize one day or there will be more countries that will sell cannabis ultimately that gets converted to the recreational market. So with that, you
Speaker 4: that we have in front of us, the businesses that we have in front of us, the diversified businesses. We have a strong balance sheet with over 400 plus million dollars of cash. As Karl talked about, we expect to be free cash flow positive this year. And trust me, we've been out in front of ensuring that we're cutting costs. And you don't hear me announcing today that we're doing all these layoffs.
Speaker 4: and cutbacks because we've been focused on cost and payment throughout the last couple of years within the Tilray businesses. You know, we want to reward our shareholders. Our shareholders are the key and I want to thank you for the support, you know, as we went out there to get more shares. I want to thank you for sticking with us. I want to thank you for being there. You know, when the stock goes down, it's not fun, but I know as shareholders you know, every day we wake up, we want to reward our shareholders and hopefully
Speaker 4: you'll see that one day. And to our consumers that buy our products, I can rest assure you, whether it's our beer, our bourbon, our food, or our cannabis, quality, quality, quality. And that's built around our brands to ensure that we're putting good, safe products out there for the consumer to enjoy. And that's something that's the utmost importance within Tilray.
Speaker 4: As I said, for four years old, we've done a lot and we are, you know, a brand that's well known. We are businesses with well-known brands and there's a lot more to come. You know with HEXO, I am really excited about the opportunities with HEXO. Got to know the team, you know, over the last nine months. Got to work with them. We got to see the inner workings of HEXO and I want to welcome you to our next session.
all the HEXO employees to Tilray once this deal closes. And I got to tell you, it's going to be exciting as HEXO, Tilray, and Afreeya come together. A lot of work went into this, and a lot of work went in to make it happen. First, I want to thank my fellow Tilray employees that worked around the clock.
Whether it's Easter, Passover, Weekend, or whenever to make sure this deal happened and happened right and the diligence and everything that goes into it. I want to thank our board of directors for all their support to ensure that we were doing the right things, ask the right questions, go through the right governance. I want to thank the HEXO board that spent endless hours to ensure the HEXO shareholders were rewarded. Mark Antizales, the chairman, thank you. And, you know, I sound like I'm
the globe is thanking people, but and Charlie Bowman, their CEO and many many other HEXO employees that made sure this happened. So with that, hopefully the next time I talk to you, the HEXO deal has closed and we move forward. With that, hopefully everybody has a great evening, had a great Easter vacation and look forward to speaking to you soon. And again, thank you very much for your support. Good night.
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