Q2 2023 Pathward Financial Inc. Earnings Call

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Speaker 1: to the programs, develop jointly with their partners.

Speaker 1: This allows the inconsumer who may not have access to a traditional bank account to receive the protections and benefits of one.

Speaker 1: Need partnerships combined with our Purvis distinguished pathfors deposits from most traditional banks.

Speaker 1: of retail card accounts with an average balance of less than $1,000.

Speaker 1: We have very few institutional counts and those that we do have are typically cash collateral tied to loans within our commercial finance group.

Speaker 1: Due to these factors, our non-interest bearing deposits on the balance sheet have a weighted average life of over six years based on our decay study.

Speaker 1: To contrast this with our loan portfolio's weighted average life of about two and a half years, and our Securries portfolio duration of around five years, and you can really see the value of our unique deposit base, particularly in today's high rate environment.

Speaker 1: Glenn will give you a more detailed look at the positive moments.

Speaker 1: Our second line of business within BAS is tax solutions, where we offer refund transfers, refund advances, and pre-season loan programs.

Speaker 1: Reefon transfers allow consumers to have their tax return completed with no upfront cost, as any preparation fees are deducted from the refund.

Speaker 1: Additionally, refund transfers allow unbanked customers to take advantage of the speed and safety of direct deposits from the IRS.

Speaker 1: Refund advances enable consumers to receive an advance based on their expected refund proceeds.

Speaker 1: Allowing access to funds immediately while they wait for the return to be processed by the IRS.

Speaker 1: The preseason loan program allows the consumer to borrow as early as November in anticipation of a refund, which may serve a more immediate end-of-year cash flow need.

Speaker 1: For many of our customers, their tax refund is one of the largest financial events of the year.

Speaker 1: Our programs assist them by providing access to funds immediately or in some cases early, providing options for receiving their refund and helping to process the tax preparation payment. These tax surfaces are utilized by millions of consumers annually through a network 10,000 of tax preparation offices nationwide.

Speaker 1: This year's tax season has performed above our initial expectations through the end of March and we're pleased with the results.

Speaker 1: Glenn will dive into the details in his remarks.

Speaker 1: The main two businesses are payment solutions and credit solutions.

Speaker 1: Payment Solutions, we offer merchant acquiring and money movement.

Speaker 1: Acting as a sponsor bank for clients and moving our 2.5 billion in ACH and wire services daily.

Speaker 1: We are also at the sponsoring bank on approximately 270,000 or two of every three independent ATMs in the nation.

Speaker 1: In credit solutions, we give our partners the ability to offer lending solutions to a diverse credit pool.

Speaker 1: Importantly, our relationships are designed with a focus on credit protection, risk mitigation, as well as liquidity.

Speaker 1: We earn a reasonable risk-adjusted return protected by certain layers of credit support.

Speaker 1: And we may also choose to sell certain consumer loans to third parties.

Speaker 1: Total deposits both on and off balance sheet decreased $534 million or 6% from the prior your quarter to $7.9 billion.

Speaker 1: The drivers of this are a continued decrease in EIP balances and the volume and timing of tax deposits at quarter-end.

Speaker 1: From the end of last quarter, we saw a decrease in total deposits of $152 million or 2%. Primarily due to runoff of seasonal gift card balances partially offset by tax season deposits.

Speaker 1: Pathward continues to be in a strong liquidity position.

Speaker 1: The recent financial industry issues have actually produced some new potential for Pathway.

Speaker 1: took this new focus on the banking industry as an opportunity to take a closer look at our positions and strengths and how they might offer new value and potential.

Speaker 1: Because of how our bank is positioned, our experience and our leadership in the vast industry, some of which I just described, several new businesses have reached out to us and new partnership opportunities have developed. We and others see the benefit of our strength as a stable, established partner.

Speaker 1: We will continue to be selective in our deals, ensuring the new relationships fit with our company's purpose, risk profile, and return aspirations. Now I want to have a few words about commercial finance.

Speaker 1: We primarily offer financing to small and medium-sized businesses. We operate in a unique position between traditional banks. We can offer better structuring to our clients and finance companies. We can offer better pricing.

Speaker 1: and referrals from other institutions.

Speaker 1: This board's folio is diversified across different asset classes.

Speaker 1: and structured to provide opportunity regardless of where we are in the economic cycle.

Speaker 1: If we're in a thriving economy, we expect to see increased originations in the equipment and insurance lines of businesses as our customers grow and expand.

Speaker 1: In the downturn, we typically see an increase in the working capital segment as most businesses need our help bridging any gaps they may experience.

Speaker 1: Regardless of the economic cycle, our leases and loans performance remains steady.

Speaker 1: There are two reasons for this. First, during a downturn, some of the additional volumes we underwrite are good credit companies that have had a bad moment and therefore have lost access to the original funding source.

Speaker 1: These companies are working to rebuild their credit profile, so they're highly incentivized to work with us to fulfill their fiduciary responsibilities.

Speaker 1: Secondly, our loans are highly collateralized and underwritten to a discounted basis on that collateral.

Speaker 1: So that in the event of liquidation, our recovery is limiting losses we may experience.

Speaker 1: The higher yields we receive are primarily due to the human capital and due diligence performed in the collateral during the underwriting process and throughout the life alone.

Speaker 1: and not necessarily an increased risk premium.

Speaker 1: Give me an example.

Speaker 1: During the underwriting process in the equipment finance line, we often receive several quotes from buyers on the equipment at origination.

Speaker 1: These quotes are part of what we base the value of the loan on. So that in the event of the fall, buyers are free of prudence and prepared to transact with us.

Speaker 1: And our working capital business during underwriting, we research and pre-approved the inclient who was responsible for making payments to the company we're financing.

Speaker 1: In addition, throughout the life alone, we conduct on-site field examinations,

Speaker 1: test the collateral and books of our clients, and we have dominion of funds.

Speaker 1: Should the client default?

Speaker 1: The payment from their customer comes directly to us.

Speaker 1: The active management of our highly collateralized loan book puts us in a strong position to recover a significant portion if not all the value alone event of a customer default.

Speaker 1: This may cause peaks and valleys in our short-term net charge-off rates, since the fault may occur in one quarter and recovering another.

Speaker 1: However, as you can see on the slide, our annual net charge up rates, even throughout the global financial crisis.

Speaker 1: are not significantly higher than those of larger banks.

Speaker 1: Total loans and leases were $3.7 billion as of March 31, an increase of 6% from the linked quarter.

Speaker 1: Commercial finance volumes and warehouse lending were the primary drivers of this result.

Speaker 1: This was roughly flat compared to the prior year as growth in commercial finance was all set by our decision to sell the student loan portfolio, pay downs in warehouse facilities, and the timing of tax season loans.

Speaker 1: Our commercial finance portfolio total 3.1 billion and increased of 7% from the year ago period.

Speaker 1: During the second quarter, the company recognized a total of $6.8 million in pre-tax financial impacts.

Speaker 1: This was attributable to the disposal or change in depreciable life of mobile solar generators related to a single relationship.

Speaker 1: In fiscal year 2019, we incurred a large impairment expense associated with one company with which we had three legacy solar transactions that turned out to be fraudulent.

Speaker 1: The assets were written down to their market value and redeployed under an equipment lease agreement to new participants.

Speaker 1: And the lead assets were returned, we performed a due diligence assessment.

Speaker 1: This led us to dispose of certain generators based on their condition and to adjust the depreciable life for the remaining mobile generators.

Speaker 1: That better reflected the service period based on market conditions and advancements in current technology.

Speaker 1: This was an isolated event limited to unique equipment, is not indicative of the remaining rental equipment for even the solar portfolio.

Speaker 1: Remain value of the generator on the balance sheet is $1.3 million.

Speaker 1: Notwithstanding that unique situation, credit quality across the portfolio remains strong. Non-performing loans of 0.76% were down from 1.16% in the previous quarter, and our net charge-off rates remain stable.

Speaker 1: We remain confident in our collateral management and the quality of our portfolio.

Speaker 1: Finally, some news of which we are particularly proud.

Speaker 1: In the fiscal third quarter, we were awarded the Great Place to Work certification.

Speaker 1: We remain dedicated to Pathways culture and improving our employees' work experience.

Speaker 1: We are extremely pleased with Pathwards recognition as a great place to work.

Speaker 1: Now I know that's a lot. Thank you for your patience and attention to this password news in these interesting times. I look forward to your questions.

Speaker 1: Before yielding the floor to Glenn Herrick, I'd like to express my gratitude to Glenn for both boating his retirement and agreeing to carry the mantle of CFO while we search for his successor.

Speaker 1: We have engaged in executive search firm for this position and Glenn has graciously agreed to help in a transition once that person is on board.

Speaker 1: Now, Glenn, will you take us through our financial results?

Speaker 2: Thank you, Brett. Net income for the quarter ended March 31, totaled $54.8 million or $1.99 per share, an increase from $49.3 million or $1.66 per share recorded in the prior year quarter.

Speaker 2: When excluding the financial impact of the previously mentioned legacy mobile solar deal, a venture capital impairment, and their corresponding tax impacts, net income was $60.3 million or $2.18 per share for the fiscal second quarter.

Speaker 2: The second-quarters results were driven by the expansion of the net interest margin and increases in non-interest income, generating 11 percent gap net income growth and 16 percent adjusted net income growth. Continued expansion in passwords net interest margin.

Speaker 2: enabled net interest income to grow 21% year over year. Total net interest margin for the fiscal second quarter of 6.12% increased considerably when compared to the 4.80% recorded in the second quarter of fiscal year 2022.

Speaker 2: We expect our net interest margin to continue to expand through the ongoing remix of our balance sheet and the reprising of our earning assets in today's higher rate environment.

Speaker 2: Provision expense in the fiscal second quarter of $36.8 million represents a $4.5 million increase from the prior year.

Speaker 2: The impact of tax, the provision expense was $5.3 million, a $2.1 million increase from the prior year. This increase reflects a shift in the overall mix of loans. Total non-interest income increased 16% to $127 million in the fiscal second quarter, as compared to $2.3 million.

Speaker 2: $109.8 million in the prior year's quarter.

Speaker 2: The large increase was attributable to revenues associated from off-balance sheet deposit servicing along with refund transfer product fee income, partially offset by a $2 million loss on the disposal of rental equipment related to the mobile solar generator activity Brent mentioned.

Speaker 2: For the six months ended March 31, 2023.

Speaker 2: Total tax services product revenue increased 2% when compared to the same period last year. This was driven by increases in revenue from refund transfers, which was partially offset by decreases in revenue from refund advances.

Speaker 2: Refund advance originations for the 2023 tax season for $1.46 billion as compared to $1.83 billion last year.

Speaker 2: When adjusting originations for the non-renewal of two previously announced partnerships during the first six months of 2022,

Speaker 2: Refund advance originations would have increased $116 million or 9%. Provision for tax services products increased when compared to the prior year's tax season. Primarily due to an expected shift in-mix in refund advances.

Speaker 2: from national franchise channels to independent tax providers. As Brett mentioned, we are pleased with the performance you're today.

Speaker 2: On the expense side, total non-interest expense of $127.1 million represents an increase of 23% from the prior year. This increase resulted primarily from $20.4 million in contractual card processing expenses to 23.7 million from conditionally Zhao's NIH outcomes.

Speaker 2: mostly attributable to the higher rate environment. Honor balance sheet, our deposit base, remains strong at $5.9 billion, and as Brett stated, consists of millions of retail cards and other small dollar accounts with an average balance less than $1,000.

Speaker 2: Our deposit base is also diversified on a client basis as we contract with over 50 program managers.

Speaker 2: In the second quarter, off-balance sheet deposits average $1.6 billion, earning revenue roughly equivalent to the effective Fed font rate.

Speaker 2: At March 31st, we had $2 billion of deposits off balance sheet with program banks.

Speaker 2: For the quarter-ended March 31st, we held approximately $1 billion in deposits related to government stimulus programs. As we move through the rest of 2023 and into 2024, we anticipate that our off-balance sheet deposit balances and associated revenue to

Speaker 2: seen in the card in deposit fee lines of non-interesting income, will likely decrease through the continued rundown of our EIP balances. Not only will recipients continue to spend them, but we will also begin to return unclamed balances to the United States Treasury. We expect the return of the unclamed balances to be approximately five.

Speaker 2: $100 million in deposits over the next 18 months.

Speaker 2: This assumption is included in our guidance as we believe long growth in the corresponding net interest income will also have this impact along with other growth.

Speaker 2: From a liquidity perspective, half-word continues to remain in a robust position. Our balance sheet is strong, and the company holds $2 billion in deposits off balance sheet.

Speaker 2: We have cash and cash equivalents the $433 million.

Speaker 2: Unplaged investment securities of $85 million, federal home loan bank borrowing capacity of $755 million, and funds available through the Fed discount window of $195 million. When factoring in unsecured funding and other wholesale funding options,

Speaker 2: This gives us over $4 billion in available liquidity.

Speaker 2: The company remains well capitalized. Why can't continuing to return value to shareholders?

Speaker 2: During the fiscal 2023 second quarter, the company repurchased 1.17 million shares at an average price of $46.60.

Speaker 2: We are reaffirming our guidance for fiscal year 2023, continuing to expect gap earnings per share between $5.55 and $5.95.

Speaker 2: Despite the $7.3 million in adverse pre-tax items during the second quarter that were detailed in the press release.

Speaker 2: This guidance includes the anticipated impacts from the declining EIP deposit balances and assumes the federal funds target rate remains at 5% in the second half of fiscal year 2023.

Speaker 2: We also assume an income tax rate in the 12% to 15% range for the fiscal year.

Speaker 3: That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the line for questions. Thank you. We will now begin our question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press a star followed by a one on your telephone keypad.

Speaker 3: If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by a tail. As a reminder, if you are using a speaker phone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. Again, to ask a question, it is star followed by a one on your telephone keypad.

Speaker 3: Our first question will be from the line of Frank. She'll be with Piper Fandler. Your line is now open.

Speaker 1: Good afternoon.

Speaker 1: Glenn wanted to ask just off the bat, you just mentioned the guidance, you reiterated the guidance and I know in the quarter you talked about the adjusted earnings per share excluding the impairments and mostly on solar generators.

Speaker 1: And it seemed in the release that you talked about the adjusted earnings per share being in the range of 540 to 580. That would include the impairments this quarter though, right? Given what you say in the release. I want to make sure of that. It did not, Frank. So the adjusted earnings would actually be higher if you're going to adjust out the solar now.

Speaker 2: impairment. We use the same methodology when we first issued guidance, which was just for the rebranding gain that we had and the impacts from that.

Speaker 1: Right, that's what I thought. Okay, just wanted to make sure. And then as far as these, the mobile generators, I believe you guys, I mean, obviously, you're not in that one partnership or that one relationship any longer, but I believe you basically actually did that business following that issue. Is that?

Speaker 1: the case or anything else that's like that on the, you know, in the law book.

Speaker 1: Yeah, Frank, this is Brad. That is the only mobile solar transaction set that we did with one, you know, one borrower that as we said turned out to be a fraudulent borrower. If you go back to 2019, you can read all the...

Speaker 1: story about that. There were a number of lenders that got caught in that, but no, we don't have anything else like that. All of our solar businesses is, you know, fixed panels, the things that are considerably different than that.

Speaker 1: Right, okay. And then just lastly, if I could, on the commercial finance side, we've talked in the past and you talked a little bit about the detail there, Brett, on the call about the business in general. You know, you've talked about pricing maybe being impacted a bit by all the liquidity in the system. And I just want to leave one True graffiti view here of our personal financenPL Apprentice.

Speaker 1: It seems like some of that liquidity has come out of the system over the last few months. Just wondering, it seems like maybe you're getting some better pricing there. I'm just curious, any color on both the pricing you're seeing there and also maybe the opportunity you had.

Speaker 1: This seems like it's the time where other more traditional banks kind of back off that business a bit. I think you're right Frank we'd literally within the past couple of weeks are starting to see what you're talking about as you know the banks begin to pull back.

Speaker 1: either because of their own liquidity concerns or any kind of view of a credit, a C&I kind of credit view. So we are just now starting to see that and that gives us an opportunity to get higher yield on the kinds of transactions we're comfortable with. So I think and part of our guidance.

Speaker 3: questions registered at this time. As a reminder, it is star followed by a 1 on your telephone keypad to ask a question. We will pause here briefly to allow questions to register.

Speaker 3: There are currently no additional questions registered at this time, so I will pass the call back over to the management team for closing remarks.

Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for joining us today and you're interested in Pathwood. Have a great evening.

Speaker 3: That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

Q2 2023 Pathward Financial Inc. Earnings Call

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