Cameco Corporation Q1 2023 Earnings Call
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Speaker 3: Thank you, operator, and good morning everyone. Welcome to Cameco's first quarter conference call. I would like to acknowledge that we are speaking from our corporate office, which is on Treaty 6 territory, the traditional territory of Cree peoples and the homeland of the Metis. With us today on the call are Tim Gitzel, our president and CEO .
Speaker 3: Grant Isaac, Executive VP and CFO , Heidi Schake, Senior VP and Deputy CFO , Brian Riley, Senior VP and Chief Operating Officer, and Sean Quinn, Senior VP, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary.
Speaker 3: I'm going to hand it over to Tim in just a moment to discuss how the improving growth outlook for nuclear power is Translating into an improving growth outlook for Cameco after this we'll open it up for your questions
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Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Rachelle, and good morning, everyone. Hope everyone is doing well. We appreciate you joining us on our call today. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Let me start today by saying how excited we are about the opportunities for growth ahead of us with demand for clean, reliable, secure, and affordable, base load electricity coming from across the globe.
Speaker 4: In fact, I'm not sure there's ever been a better time to be a pure play investment in the growing demand for nuclear energy.
Speaker 4: And that is exactly how we have positioned camoco.
Speaker 4: From the results we published earlier today, which are clearly beginning to demonstrate the strength and purpose of our strategic decisions, to the continued support we see developing for nuclear power around the world, our optimism just continues to grow.
Speaker 4: I have to tell you about an event I attended about a month ago, the Prime Minister Trudeau President Joe Biden-Dinner, which took place in Ottawa. I think the related meetings and public statements that followed exemplify with little doubt the scale and scope of the opportunity that's in front of us.
Speaker 4: At the dinner, the two leaders talked about among other things, the critical role of nuclear energy.
Speaker 4: and the importance of nuclear collaboration between Canada and the US.
Speaker 4: It was almost hard to believe like a dream come true.
Speaker 4: Nuclear energy would never have made top billing at a meeting between our countries even a few years ago So it gives you a sense of just how important nuclear power and the fuel cycle to support it have become
Speaker 4: and how critical chemicals roll is to achieving this North American vision.
Speaker 4: In fact, I sat between Canadian Natural Resources, Minister Jonathan Wilkinson.
Speaker 4: and U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm, where we continue to discuss and around Camico's role in North American nuclear energy security.
Speaker 4: The dinner was followed up by the joint statement between the U.S. Department of Energy and Natural Resources Canada on nuclear energy cooperation.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've read it yet, but I can tell you it is really positive and puts nuclear power front and center.
Speaker 4: It's the kind of signal from government that our industry has been waiting for for a long time.
Speaker 4: And while the statement was largely focused on North America, it went even further.
Speaker 4: To address the need to work together globally as the world grapples with providing clean, reliable, affordable and secure energy.
Speaker 4: Furthermore, at the recent G7 meeting in Japan, five of the G7 nations, Canada, the United States, United Kingdom, Japan, and France, have created an alliance to leverage their respective civil nuclear sectors. This agreement will support the stable supply of nuclear fuels.
Speaker 4: as well as the nuclear fuel needs of future advanced reactors.
Speaker 4: Almost every day in the news you will find more examples of that same sentiment being expressed. Whether it's the improving public opinion for nuclear power.
Speaker 4: changing policy decisions in support of nuclear
Speaker 4: For market-based solutions being pursued, there is increasing evidence of the strong momentum for nuclear. Evidence that supports full-cycle demand growth for nuclear power and the Iranian fuel required to run the reactors.
Speaker 4: So the positive fundamentals you've heard us talking about for nearly a decade are no longer just a long-term story, they're right in front of us, and the picture is stronger than ever.
Speaker 4: We're seeing the reversal of early reactor retirement decisions, which represents unexpected near-term demand.
Speaker 4: And as some utilities look to replace Russian fuel in their supply chains, we're seeing new markets opening up. Markets where our company was previously unable to compete, such as Central and Eastern Europe .
Speaker 4: This is adding further pressure to the already tightening near-term market.
Speaker 4: In the medium term, additional demand is coming from life extensions for existing reactor fleets.
Speaker 4: Although today's focus is on energy security and fuel diversity, governments are not losing sight of their clean air and net zero carbon targets.
Speaker 4: Those who are lucky enough to count operating and fully depreciated nuclear plants as part of their base flow generation are recognizing that those assets are more valuable than ever.
Speaker 4: And then there is growth in the long term, which is coming in the form of new builds.
Speaker 4: expansions to existing reactor programs and higher nuclear energy policy targets.
Speaker 4: It's construction plans for small and advanced nuclear reactors.
Speaker 4: plans that are becoming more concrete every day. All of which is pointing to what we believe are truly transformative tailwinds for our industry.
Speaker 4: Tailwinds driven by the focus on clean energy, by an energy crisis and by the geopolitical realignment of energy markets.
Speaker 4: In the past course, we spent a lot of time focusing on the vital aspects of supplying the man because about 95% of the questions we have been getting were focused on the market.
Speaker 4: There seemed to be little interest in what Camico was up to because we had almost everything shut down.
Speaker 4: However, those fundamentals characterized by durable full-cycle demand growth against the backdrop of an uncertain supply picture are now pretty well understood.
Speaker 4: Now that we are restarting some of our operations and expanding it others...
Speaker 4: We're seeing the interest shift back to understanding how we're positioning camoco to benefit from the tail winds that are developing.
Speaker 4: to shift back to understanding how we're positioning camoco to benefit from the tail winds that are developing. What a difference a year has made.
Speaker 4: The question on everyone's mind now seems to be how quickly can you respond with more production?
Speaker 4: However, I think we've been very clear for us, it's not about volume, it's about maximizing value.
Speaker 4: The key to our production planning and potential future growth decisions is long-term utility procurement.
Speaker 4: Contracting comes first in all segments of our business.
Speaker 4: As we've said time and time again nuclear is a long-term market and spot activity is discretionary.
Speaker 4: That said, price and availability of Uranium products and services in the near term does have an impact on the market's assessment of how much Uranium is available across all time horizons.
Speaker 4: A near-term scarcity makes everyone think longer term, setting the right context for a new contracting cycle, which is now well underway. Once we have finalized contracts in hand and know when and where our material is needed, we will then make the appropriate sourcing decisions to satisfy those delivery commitments.
Speaker 4: We have over three decades of experience operating in this industry.
Speaker 4: We understand that to create long-term value and provide supply and reliability for our customers, we must build homes for our production under long-term contracts before we pull it out of the ground.
Speaker 4: A bit unusual for a mining company, but then again, we're more than mining. And a bit unusual for a commodity.
Speaker 4: But then again, uranium is unlike most other commodities.
Speaker 4: We continue to be balanced and disciplined in layering in contract volumes where it makes sense for us while building a diversified customer base.
Speaker 4: For the past couple years, the volumes we have placed under long-term agreements have exceeded our annual delivery volumes. The most recent supply agreements we finalized in new markets in Eastern Europe are great examples of the type of contracting opportunities we are seeing.
Speaker 4: We are incredibly proud of the pivotal role that we at Kammico will be able to play in helping these countries gain energy independence.
Speaker 4: As a result of our contracting success today we have about 215 million pounds of uranium and more than 70,000 tons of UF6 conversion under long-term contracts.
Speaker 4: Delivery under these contracts spans more than the decade. Some contracts up to 2040.
Speaker 4: The average annual delivery volume in our uranium segment over the next five years is 26 million pounds.
Speaker 4: And many of these contracts are market-related, providing us with exposure to an improving market.
Speaker 4: In addition, we have a large and growing pipeline of business under discussion, which we expect will help further build our long-term contract portfolio and guide our future production planning.
Speaker 4: This contracting success is expected to allow us to sustainably operate our assets and generate full cycle value for the chemical, writing our customers with access to the fuel they need to operate their reactors.
Speaker 4: However, while Camaco is enjoying replacement rate contracting, the nuclear industry overall has not yet achieved that milestone.
Speaker 4: So, utilities uncovered requirements continue to grow.
Speaker 4: With our experience in every commercial cycle, we believe this indicates we are still in the early stages of the market transition that is underway, and we know that additional demand must come to the market.
Speaker 4: Therefore, we are remaining patient in order to capture as much long-term value as possible.
Speaker 4: We remain very selective in committing our unencumbered Tier 1 in-ground uranium inventory and UF6 conversion capacity under long-term contracts. We want to maintain additional exposure to future improvements in the market. As a commercial supplier, our decisions have uniquely positioned the company to capitalize on the...
Speaker 4: Increasingly undeniable conclusion, the nuclear power must be an essential part of the clean and secure energy transition.
Speaker 4: And with heightened security of supply concerns and geopolitical uncertainty stemming from Russia's ongoing war in Ukraine, Kamako's nuclear fuel supplies are highly coveted.
Speaker 4: With demonstrated tier 1 assets, strategic tier 2 assets, and investments across the fuel cycle.
Speaker 4: We've taken a balanced and disciplined approach to our strategy of full-cycle value capture. We believe there is significant opportunity for Camaco to grow as we help new and existing customers de-risk their fuel supply needs. But what's really exciting for us is that we do not have to build new capacity to compete for this business.
Speaker 4: We have Brownfield expansion capacity.
Speaker 4: We just need to turn up the best in class assets we already have, a position we have not enjoyed in previous price cycles.
Speaker 4: In the context of significant growth opportunities for nuclear power, we're also excited about our strategic partnership with Brookfield Renewable to jointly acquire a Westinghouse electric company. Our excitement stems from being able to extend our reach in the nuclear fuel cycle at a time when there is tremendous growth on the horizon.
Our planned investment in Westinghouse is an investment in assets like ours that are strategic, that are proven, that are licensed and permitted, and that are located in geopolitically attractive jurisdictions.
Assets that we expect will be able to participate in the growing demand profile for nuclear energy and downstream services from their existing footprint.
Team here is working toward closing the Westinghouse investment, which is still expected to occur in the second half of this year.
Once it closes, we will be able to provide more details on the exciting prospects we see for that business.
This brings us to our production decisions.
Our production plans are balanced with our contract portfolio and where we think the market transition is currently at.
We will not front-run demand with uncommitted supply and risk being exposed to a discretionary spot market.
We've seen other companies pursue a spot market strategy many times in the past and every time it failed.
It only served to transfer value from shareholder's pockets into the pockets of utilities, traders, or other intermediaries.
Any company that understands our industry has learned the lessons of the past.
They understand that in the near term there is very little uncovered demand. You just have to look at U-X-C's uncovered requirements in 2023 and 2024. They are very small.
Contracts being signed today aren't for in-year demand, they're generally for requirements starting in 2025 and beyond when uncovered requirements start to grow.
However, if you wait until then to contract, you'll miss the contracting cycle.
The demand will already be covered under long-term contracts that are being signed today and your production will be exposed to a small discretionary spot market.
So, Camico won't ramp up production to meet spot demand.
We align our production plans with our long-term commitments. And I think we've shown we can be trusted when we say we will maintain our discipline.
Let me just take a minute to discuss where we're at with the next phase of our supply discipline. As we announced last quarter with the contracting success we have had, we've changed our production plans from a year ago.
We now plan to round up at MacArthur River Key Lake to produce 15 million pounds this year and 18 million pounds in 2024.
At Cigar Lake, we plan to produce 18 million pounds this year and to maintain production at 18 million pounds in 2024.
But that's not the extent of our Tier 1 supply growth. As we see uncovered requirements translated into additional contract commitments,
We also maintain the ability to expand and extend production from our existing Tier 1 assets.
If we took advantage of all of these opportunities, our annual share of Tier 1 uranium supply could be about 32 million pounds.
As for our tier two assets, we plan to keep those on care and maintenance unless we can secure long-term contracts that provide returns similar to what we can currently achieve on our tier one assets. In addition to our plans to increase uranium production this year and in 2024, we're also working on expanding production at our Port Hope UF6 can be...
There are challenges.
Inflation.
the availability of personnel with the necessary skills and experience.
The impact of supply chain challenges on the availability of materials and reagents.
and global transportation challenges all contribute to elevated risks which we must continue to carefully manage.
With improving market fundamentals, plus our growing contract portfolio for both uranium and fuel services and our plans for increased production,
Our strategy is set us on a path that provides line of sight to a significant improvement in our financial performance.
as we return to our Tier 1 cost structure. And you can see this is starting to play out in our first quarter results as we expected it would.
Our strategic decisions are translating into better earnings and cash flow. This higher uranium prices flow through our existing market-related contracts.
And as we begin to deliver into higher priced UF6 conversion contracts.
We are no longer incurring care and maintenance costs or operational readiness costs at MacArthur River Key Lake.
And as our production increases and our purchased volumes decrease, we're relying more on our lower cost production to meet our delivery commitments.
We will retain our conservative financial management to support our continued balance and discipline contracting and supply decisions.
As you know, the financial aspect of our strategy is to ensure we have a solid balance sheet and the ability to self-manage risk.
At the end of the first quarter, including the proceeds from an equity issue to support our planned acquisition of a 49% share of Westinghouse,
We had $2.5 billion in cash, about 1 billion in long-term debt, and a $1 billion earned on credit facility.
And this doesn't include the $79 million US dividend we just received from JV Inkai or the $86 million cash refund CRH sent us on account of its revised reassessments for the 2007 through 2013 tax years.
The refund from CRA was cash we had to pay on account of taxes previously reassessed on income earned by our foreign subsidiary from the sale of non-Canadian produced uranium.
Based on the information CRA provided to us, we had actually expected to receive $89 million.
But nothing surprises us anymore when it comes to the CRA. They informed us that they apparently made an error in their calculations that was not in our favor.
Unfortunately, this is a serious business, which is what makes it so frustrating. We still expect them to return $211 million in letters of credit.
Of course, that assumes their calculations were correct, which I'm not sure is a safe assumption, but it's all we have.
So while we're happy to be getting some of our cash and security back, our broader tax dispute saga with the CRA does continue, and you can dive further into the details on that in the Q1MDNA. Our decisions at Camico are deliberate. We're responsible, commercially motivated supplier with a diversified
communities and to protecting the environment, something we've been doing now for over 30 years. Our strategy, which includes contracting discipline, supply discipline, and financial discipline, will allow us to achieve our vision.
A vision of energizing a clean air world and thereby delivering long-term value in a market where demand for safe, secure, reliable, and affordable clean nuclear energy is growing.
So thanks for your interest today and we are happy to take any questions.
Thank you. We'll now begin the question and answer session.
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Our first question is from Greg Barnes with PD Securities. Please go ahead.
Thank you operator. Tim and everyone else on the phone. I'm just trying to understand the jump from the 180 million pounds you had at a long time contract. You reported with a Q4 results to a 250 million pounds reporting today. Does that include the Ukraine contract?
and the Bulgarian contract or what is the composition that jumped from 180 to 215?
Pardon me, this is the conference operator. I made an error with the, I just muted the presenters by mistake. I'll rejoin you now.
Pardon me, please go ahead. Greg, are you there? Can you hear us? Yes, we can hear you now. I apologize. Thank you. Sorry about that. Greg, we got your question. And I'm going to ask the market expert grant to answer that on our sales portfolio. Yeah. Thanks Greg. Great question. So we have.
Added in those contracts, Ukraine at the lower volumes without the Zapparitia unit and the Bulgaria volumes into those volume limits. But going forward, we're going to go back to what we've done in the past, which is wait till they're executed contracts. And then it lines up with our disclosure, for example, in our price census.
one-half sets.
One moment, please. Let me just assure that his line is open. Thank you. Mr. Barnes, I apologize your line is open again.
I combine those two that adds up to about 41 million pounds. The jump is only 35. So just...
trying to understand the right we don't hold off what we've delivered to date
Right, we'll hold off what we've delivered to date. Okay.
Okay, just as a follow-on, can you give us an idea on the approval that you've actually received on the Westing House today and what's required from this point forward?
Yep, we sure can and Sean Quinn has been following this file meticulously. Obviously it's a top priority report. So Sean, can you give Greg an update on that? Sure, Greg. There's over 30 approvals required in total. There are in three different buckets. Greg, the regulatory approval was associated with them.
US approvals, we're working on the competition lot of approvals and the Foreign Direct Investment approvals. I don't have a schedule of the expected recovery. We seek dates for each of those in front of me, but they're all on time at this. They're all on schedule at this point and we're not anticipating any huge difficulties.
and we're on track for closing in the second half of this year itself. Okay, good, thank you. Thanks, Greg. The next question is from Gordon Lawson.
with Paradon Capital. Please go ahead. Good morning, everyone. I just have a generic question here. So you've got your two keystone assets now running ad or near your targeted rates and the outlook's looking significantly more promising. So what would be the required catalyst for you to start talking about quarterly financial results and providing pre-U call centers?
18 and 24 cigar staying at 18 in both of those years and we'll see what happens going forward. I think we've been very very clear that we're not going to front-run any demand. We will wait until we have a contract portfolio that calls for more pounds and then we'll look at our assets to see what's going to happen.
much much more smoothly and much better position than they were a few years ago. I'm just wondering when you'd expect or what would be a key catalyst for us to start getting back into that. Yeah, Gordon, I don't think that we've ever really done that. We've always maintained that.
We don't think about this business on a quarterly basis. It's not how our business operates, and so our focus is really on our performance.
For the year, not just on a quarterly basis, and that's why, you know, if you've got detailed questions on the quarter, we're happy to address those. We just feel that this isn't the right form for that, because we just don't think about what our business on a quarterly basis has.
Okay, okay, thank you. Good, thanks Gordon. Our next question is from...
Or is to lock it out with Skoche Bank, please go ahead. Thank you, Morning. I wanted to ask another question about your contract book. Please, but surprised to see the jump in your average sales delivery over the next five years going up from 26 million pounds.
versus 21 at year end. Does that suggest that the majority of the volume you've added to the book is all front-end loaded if it's showing up in that five-year guidance?
That five year guidance is an average and you can always think about it as being more front end loaded. Think about our leverage to the market coming from two distinct dimensions. The first is what we call our portfolio. So that is we've got plant sales this year, 29 to 31 million pounds.
we haven't sold yet. So as you point out, in the outer years of that five-year average, we wouldn't be at the same level of sales as we are today. It's exactly where we want to be. We see a market where uncovered requirements are growing. We think we're in the early innings of a contracting cycle. We're bar from sold out.
five-year jump in your book ever. Just the magnitude of that move is pretty impressive.
Yeah, it reflects what we've been talking about, which is the transition in the market to security of supply-driven contracting. So for us, there's a couple of dimensions to think about. One obviously is that fundamental story. I always want to point people to the growing uncovered requirements and then reference the fact that the market is not yet even replacing what it consumes on an asset.
by the U.S. Six demand in that market. So tie that to our vertical integration. It's our conversion space that allows us to generate that kind of uranium business as well. That's very advantageous for us. And so we're just seeing that incumbent advantage play out. The good news is...
Like I said, we're not even at replacement rate yet. So if you look at it from historical terms, we've never been at this stage of a contracting cycle at this high of a uranium price before. We've seen the enrichment price recover. We've seen the conversion price hit historic levels. We haven't seen that kind of demand that's gone through those two parts of the fuel cycle, fully hit the uranium side yet. And so we're obviously pretty excited about it.
tie that back to my earlier comment. It's why we want to remain leveraged in both our portfolio and our pipeline. Thanks Grant and just as a quick follow up can you give us a flavor of contracting behavior right now with respect to how the floors and feelings in these market related contracts are
developing, like I assume they're both moving up with the market pricing? Yeah, no question. Our preference right now at this point in the cycle is to be market related because of the demand that we can see that has to come to the market and because we know that the market isn't even at replacement rate contracting yet. Market related contracts
are very often call or utilities will often, for example, ask for a ceiling. They've lived through price spikes before and if they do, we will want to insert a floor. It's the callering that has improved markedly on the market-related contracts over the last year. You know, not uncommon to see
$45.50, escalated floors, $75.80, escalated ceiling. So inflation-linked callers that give you a lot of upside participation, incredible downside protection as well. That is a very much an improving scenario.
I just want to tie it back to the term price because what we see often is a misunderstanding where people don't sort of remember that the term price that's posted is only influenced by base escalated prices in the market. So actually as we sign market related contracts we're having less price formation influence than say another producer willing to base escalate their contracts.
So think of that term price at 53ish today really as the bottom of the market, the absolute floor from which the leverage is possible on top of that. Again, pretty exciting position to be in given the growing uncovered requirements and the fact we haven't even hit replacement rate contracting. That's a pretty good level to be at this stage in the cycle end.
Thanks, Grant. Appreciate the caller. Thanks for your question, Oris. Our next question is from Lawson Winder with Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi, thank you operator and good morning, Tim and Grant. Thanks for the update today. Just a couple of questions for me. I wanted to ask if you could help us think about the contract with Ukraine and Bulgaria and how that sets up in terms of your targeted 60-40 split market.
And so that was an important one. Bulgaria was just there last week and signed that up. That's another new market for us. It had never been there before. Never dealt with them before. And there's more of those countries to come for us. So Grant, do you want to talk about how those two contracts fit into our portfolio? You referenced lost in our 6040.
There are times where we want actually a lot more market-related exposure and we would want less space escalating. That time is right now.
And the reason we would want more market-related exposure right now is because, again, uncovered requirements, wedge is growing. That's demand that has to come to the market. That's demand that utilities can defer and they can delay, but they ultimately cannot avoid. And that wedge is growing. It's growing.
Because utilities have not even been contracting at a replacement rate yet They've not even been coming to the market to buy forward what they consume in a given year So for us that that suggests this market still has upward price momentum and we want to be market exposed to that
Now, there are times where our market hits replacement rate and goes above. And when we start to get into that though, we are inclined to think more about the base escalated prices in order to lock those moments in for a long tail of cash flow and earnings. But that's not where we are today. So don't think about 60-40 with respect to any one contract or any one year. So right now we want to be market related. So I would just say on a framework.
some of that locked in and escalated over the life of the deliveries. Again, taking those moments where you have unique demand points that are pushing one part of our segment above replacement rate and capturing that. But never think about 60-40 as pertaining to any one single contract or even one single year.
Okay, thanks for those comments. Thank you. Could I maybe ask one follow-up then? Yeah, sure. Just with the market purchasing that you've guided to of 9 to 11 million pounds.
To help us think about how active Cameco might be in the spot market this year, first of all, have you been active in the spot market and to what extent?
year to date 2023 and then what proportion of that 9 to 11 million pounds would be pre-contracted purchase commitments from yourselves and
And obviously, what proportion do you expect will be Kazatomprom or NCAI, sorry. Yeah, so a great set of questions. Let me just unpack it a little bit. So, 9 to 11 million pounds is what we guided for purchases here in 2023. Remember our planned production or our share from JVNCAI.
that's at our discretion. We've also entered into contracts to buy in the past when the price was a lot lower. We like to operate like a utility when we see a low price of uranium if somebody wants to fix that price, we're willing to enter into a long-term commitment. We have some of those available that we could bring forward today's into
Make no mistake, we're still in supply discipline. We still have a requirement to purchase. We will be buying in the market. To date, we've only bought about 400,000 pounds. You can see that in our quarterly uranium table. So we do have a need to buy, and we're watching really closely as we see additional interest in physical funds built.
as we see some utility step into the spot market to support it, even in the absence of the very...
familiar spot vehicle that everybody keeps an eye on that really hasn't done a lot in the last couple of weeks Little bit over a month There's been a real resistance to the Iranian price so for us. We're just going to be very opportunistic We don't telegraph what our purchases are or when we're going to make them but
We will be a buyer in the market for sure. Thank you both very much. Thanks, Lawson. Once again, if you have a question, please press star. Then one, you'll hear a tone acknowledging your request. Our next question is from Grace Simes with MUG and Intelligence. Please go ahead.
So I have two questions. One is about the expanding conversion at Port Hope. How many tons did Port Hope produce in 2022 and do any steps need to be taken or have already been taken to get to 12,000 tons by 2024?
And then I know that at the end of 2022, there were potentially some issues with granting up to QA's mill and I want to know if there's issues involved and resolved right now. Thanks for the question. So just there's a few pieces in there. Production at Port Hope in 2022 was just over 10,000.
10,000, 600,000. I believe in we are in the process of ramping up to 12,000 by 2024. So that's on track Nothing really new to report there and maybe I'll as Brian Riley just to give an update on the key like MacArthur ramp up and the work that's going on there and we're excited about that project going back so Brian Thanks, Emma. Thanks great for the question look a good quarter for
MacArthur River mine and key lake mill and our objective was and is very clear. Wrap up our production safe, orderly fashion to achieve our production target. So today we have over 800 workers at the sites that includes our Camela Goldenuy and Vermil????.
contractors. The mines are in good shape. They're over 100 million pounds behind free walls available for mining and we have five active headings. I would share that we commence to underground mine development and free drilling in the in the quarters well preparing new mining areas for future production.
specific to your question about the key length mill production is ramping up as planned we made significant changes to the site and I think you referenced that and I can tell you the new operating system and the various digital and automation projects are all working well a normal commissioning challenges
They're fewer and fewer in number. So we expect to achieve our target of 15 million pounds in 2023. Thanks, Brian . All right. Thank you. Thank you.
Our next question is from Oris Waccadel with Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Thanks for taking the follow-up.
Just curious if if you continue to see good demand in terms of filling up the contract book should we assume that?
the expansion of the cars and rivers likely the next source of your supply growth. I mean, taking it up to the 25 million pounds license capacity. And then I was also wondering on when we could anticipate getting the market to get details on.
what's entailed with respect to the Sycar Lake Extension project? Yeah, clearly MacArthur is a tier one asset that we are just delighted with our partners to have and so our first move is to 15 this year and then to 18
But the contract book looks like after that we do have room to go up to 25. We've got approval, licensing approval. So yeah, that would be our first and best source of additional production. I mean, it's unbelievable that we've got that capacity. Sagar, we're looking at that going forward. Maybe Brian , do you want to give an update on Sagar? Yeah, sure.
resources located to the west of the existing pods. This defines the support to our lake or body. But we would have to do some work. We would have to do surface delineation drilling. We would have to do underground geotechnical drilling. And that would be required to convert those resources to reserves.
So that work has not been completed and the final investment decision hasn't been made. But that's the optionality that would extend production beyond 2031.
But just as a follow up, when would that decision have to be made in order to secure sort of continuous production at cigar?
Yeah, look we've got you know runway out till 2031 we have time but you know giving a given the feasibility studies required and long lead procurement to me that's a decision we would have to take sooner than later but we have time at the moment because the runway is out until
Yeah, look, we've got a runway out till 2031. We have time, but giving the feasibility studies required and long-leaf procurement, I mean, that's the decision we would have to take sooner than later. But we have time at the moment because a runway is out until 2031.
Okay, sorry to jump in. I would just tie it to our contracting as well because remember the decisions on the production side follow the procurement, follow the success we have in building the contract portfolio. And just as we said in the past, we enter into a new term contract today, well we typically don't start delivering into that term contract for two years. So that actually gives us an enormous amount of time to plan the production and to line up the studies and line up the work that Brian was talking about. It's a very advantageous position.
It's not at a level that would justify those types of decisions. We remain in supply discipline. We remain very deliberate in strategic. Okay, and just a quick follow-up if I could grant. Is there much capital required to take MacArthur from 18 to 25?
The really exciting part of our story is the ability to benefit from an improving market with those points of leverage that you asked about earlier. So we have leverage to rising prices.
against the falling cost structure. As we bring on assets we already have licensed, already have permitted, already have built and run them at a higher unit cost we get off-ex improvements. And then on top of that, as Tim mentioned, a lot of Brownfield leverage. That Brownfield leverage means what we're really talking about is replacement
maintenance capital, not Greenfield capital. So we have a very steady capital profile. It's not the type of capital that you would expect to see if somebody was building a mine in the milk, especially in today's market of supply chain challenges and inflationary pressures. So I would say no, it's not a lot of capital relative to the extra pounds because it is, bro.
Hi, thank you for taking the follow-up. I wanted to ask about SILEX and whether Cameco is running for the
several hundred million dollars of money from the DOE for how you and and also ask in your conversations with your customers when you're when you're talking contracting on conversion and natural uranium are they also asking for silox enrichment capacity and could there be increase involvement involvement from your customers to sort of help accelerate the rollout? Thanks.
Yeah, thanks for the question. We're obviously quite excited about the GLE project and its potential going forward. Sean is overseeing that one from our sites of Sean Quinn and maybe the last few to answer. Sure, I'll take the first question about the IRA funding in the US, the $700 million that was referenced.
Yes, GLE is poised to pursue that money. One of the programs are formally announced by the DOE, and we're excited about the opportunities to try and capture some of that funding. We have been waiting for the DOE to come out with it.
You don't build productive capacity and then start knocking on people's doors and saying you want to buy it because that will be value destructive. The support case needs to be made just like it does for a mining investment in the Uranium Space. That support case for GLE would include the type of government support that Sean is talking about but it would also include customer support.
You've seen GLE have success signing some MOUs with some fairly large US utilities who are excited about that as both a supplier diversification and a technology diversification, two really important pillars in a world where enrichment is so scarce.
we have experience as Cameco actually contingently contracting production from laser enrichment back prior to the Fukushima cycle. So we would have to build up that support case. You know, the best way to bring on a uranium asset, of course, is to...
stream it into a well-developed contract portfolio, the same would go for an enrichment asset. So we would treat it with the same strategic discipline that we would developing a new mine. But ultimately we're very excited about that project and the supply source it can be and the solution it can be to global utilities looking for more enrichment.
Okay, thank you very much. Have a great day, Lawson. Thanks.
This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Tim Goetzel for any closing remarks.
Okay, well thank you very much operator. With that I just want to say thanks to everybody who joined us on the call today. As always we appreciate your interest and your support.
Just a couple comments. You know that our world today is facing some pretty significant challenges, including decarbonization, electrification, while trying to ensure energy affordability and security without jeopardizing the ambitious net-zero targets that have been set. These are exciting times for Cameco. We're excited about the increasing...
which allows us to further expand production from our brownfield capacity and to invest in opportunities across the fuel cycle. We, as you know, are a responsible commercial supplier with a strong balance sheet, long-lived Tier 1 assets and a proven operating track record and line of sight to return to our Tier 1 cost structure.
We will continue to do what we said we would do executing on our strategy and Consistent with our values. We'll do so in a manner. We believe we'll make our business sustainable over the long term
And as always, we'll continue to make the health and safety of our workers, their families, and their communities our top priority. Thank you everybody, stay safe and stay healthy. Thank you.
This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
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