Q1 2023 DT Midstream Inc. Earnings Call

Speaker 1: Thank you for standing by. My name is Brianna and I will be your conference operator today.

Speaker 1: At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the DT Midsream First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call.

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Speaker 1: After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Thank you.

Speaker 1: I will now turn the call over to Todd Lohrmann, Director of Investor Relations. You may begin your conference.

Speaker 1: Now turn the call over to Todd Lorman, Director of Investor Relations. You may begin your conference. Good morning and welcome everyone.

Speaker 2: Before we get started, I would like to remind you to read the Safe Harbor statement on page 2 of the presentation.

Speaker 2: including the reference to forward-looking statements.

Speaker 2: Our presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures. Following the successful issuance of DEAP and Nexus Pipeline, we are modifying our adjusted EBITDA calculation to reflect full proportional EBITDA from our equity method investees. Please refer to the updated definition of adjusted EBITDA and the reconciliation to GAAP contained in the appendix, as well as the definitions and reconciliation of our other non-GAAP financial measures.

Speaker 2: The appendix also contains details on the debt balances and interest expense at our equity method and besties.

Speaker 2: Joining me this morning are David Slater, President and CEO , and Jeff Jewell, Executive Vice President and CFO .

Speaker 2: I'll now turn it over to David to start the call.

Speaker 3: Thanks, Todd, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining.

Speaker 3: I am pleased to report we had another strong quarter, with both business segments delivering great results that are in line with our full year plan.

Speaker 3: As I communicated on their year end call, we expect growth to be weighted towards the second half of the year as we bring projects online.

Speaker 3: Standing here today, I'm confident in our full-year guidance range for 2023, an early outlook range for 2024.

Speaker 3: on budget and on schedule. And during the quarter, we made significant progress de-risking these projects by completing major construction activities and firming up project costs.

Speaker 3: Approximately 80% of the overall growth project capital costs have been locked in through our spend to date and committed procurement contracts. And I'd like to give a big thanks to the entire team for their dedication.

Speaker 3: as they work to ensure these projects meet the expected in-service dates for our customers. I also want to commend our employees for their excellent safety performance.

Speaker 3: with no recordable safety incidences so far this year.

Speaker 3: We are continuing to advance our CCS opportunity in Louisiana. Following the acceptance of a Class 6 well permit application by the EPA. We have completed seismic surveys and continue to evaluate geological characteristics in support of our application.

Speaker 3: Last Friday, the EPA announced they are opening a public comment window on a proposal to grant the state of Louisiana's request.

Speaker 3: or primacy over Class VI injection wells. We are very encouraged by this announcement and will continue to work closely with both the EPA and the state of Louisiana as we advance the project towards a final investment decision. I want to take a moment to address the natural gas fundamentals.

Speaker 3: and share our observations on producer activity levels.

Speaker 3: We are starting to see rig reductions in response to the low gas perg to act with a lower gas perg environment.

Speaker 3: Recently announced customer activity reductions in our footprint are fully contemplated in our guidance.

Speaker 3: And our long-term view on the market remains very constructive.

Speaker 3: The resource areas served by our assets are Tier 1, with a long runway of highly economic drivable well locations. There was also a high drilled and uncompleted well inventory in the basins that we operate in.

Speaker 3: especially in the Hainesville where the documentory has grown significantly. On the demand side, LG FeedDAS is at record levels.

Speaker 3: Following the return of report LG.

Speaker 3: And the next wave of new export facilities is quickly approaching.

Speaker 3: Power demand for natural gas is running well above last year.

Speaker 3: and the potential increased power burn, especially if we have a hot summer, could accelerate the tightening of the market. Our asset footprint with wellhead to market connectivity serving the two best dry gas basins.

Speaker 3: provides advantages in this very dynamic market.

Speaker 3: Our pipelines serve growing and durable demand centers, and the pipeline segment has increased from approximately 50% of our business mix in 2021 to closely 65% today.

Speaker 3: We continue to add to our backlog of organic business development opportunities with our focus on short-cycle, right-sized growth investments.

Speaker 3: We recently added two new producers to our Haynesville system.

Speaker 3: And at our storage complex, we are contracting into a favorable pricing environment.

Speaker 3: Now, I'll pass it over to Jeff to walk you through our quarterly financials and outlook.

Speaker 4: Thanks, David, and good morning, everyone.

Speaker 4: In the first quarter, we delivered overall adjusted EBITDA of $225 million.

Speaker 4: Our pipeline segment results reflect continued strong performance at our storage complex and our pipeline joint ventures.

Speaker 4: offset by reduced short-term revenues following a strong fourth border.

Speaker 4: Our gathering segment results were in line with the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4: We step for the 2 million impact from the transferring our Michigan gathering asset to the pipeline segment.

Speaker 4: following the service conversion and the start of the new 20-year transport contract.

Speaker 4: volume growth to be back half-weighted this year, which is driven by the in-service of our expansion projects and timing of customer activity. Growth CapEx for the quarter was 227 million as we made significant progress de-risking our organic growth projects. We are maintaining our full-year growth CapEx range of 575 million to 650 million.

Speaker 4: Our total committed growth capital remains approximately $800 million and is slated for organic growth projects. The committed total, which is inclusive of our 2023 investment, implies a significant step down in capital spend in 2024. We recently took the opportunity to further optimize our balance sheet with the issuance of $750 million of new investment-grade debt at Nexus Pipeline, with DTM's proportional share being approximately $375 million. Funds from the transaction will be distributed in early May and will be used to support organic growth and pay down our revolving credit facility. This transaction will free up additional liquidity and provide interest expense savings. Overall we are very pleased with the results of this financing.

Speaker 4: We remain committed to the strength of our balance sheet and our four times long-term leverage ratio ceiling.

Speaker 4: As Todd mentioned, we are modifying our adjusted EVA-dimetric, which impacts our adjusted EVA-dic guidance.

Speaker 4: The updated 2023 guidance can be found on page 6 in the earnings presentation.

Speaker 4: This update to our guidance solely reflects the change in our adjusted EBITDA metric and does not reflect any changes to the base business.

Speaker 4: I'll now pass it back over to David for closing remarks.

Speaker 3: Thanks, Jeff. So, in summary, we feel really good about our full year guidance range for 2023 and our early ELLIC range for 2024. Our construction projects have been significantly de-risked and are primarily backed by taker pay contracts.

Speaker 3: We continue to have a healthy business development inventory of organic growth projects.

Speaker 3: and expect that improving market fundamentals over the course of the year will yield additional opportunities.

Speaker 1: We can now open up the line for questions. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, you must press star and the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Spiro Dunis with Citi. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3: Thanks, operating. Morning, guys. First question, you guys mentioned that the natural gas prices to some degree have an impact on on rigs here in the near term, but just curious as you sort of think out, it sounds like your outlook really hasn't changed.

Speaker 3: When we think longer term and so I know one thing you are pursuing was an expansion of leap Towards 3dc at the day at some point just curious if you can maybe swarves through customer interest levels on continuing that expansion now Or maybe a quarter or two ago and how are you thinking about the timing of that potential expansion? Sure can't steer Great question

Speaker 5: So we continue to have really active dialogue with a series of customers on the next phase of lead expansion.

Speaker 5: As we sit here today, we're, you know, mid-2023 and that 25-26 next wave of LNG.

Speaker 5: is quickly approaching. And I think one of the advantages that we offer the market is our ability to expand in what I'll call bite-size increments, just like phase one, two, and three were. So we continue to have a lot of customers interested in incremental leak capacity.

customers are very self-aware of that and you know one half things kind of lined out and ready to go when they're prepared to make those the next incremental commitment. So

We

punched above our weight and we're able to contract a large portion of the market share and I expect the same thing will happen in the second wave.

Thanks for that, Collar. Second one, maybe just going to the new EBITDA methodology, two-part question on this one. So, first, I guess, what was the thinking in not sort of keeping it the way it was and reducing the EBITDA by the interest levels, especially now that you're going to have a little bit more JV debt?

would seem like that gap or that variable between even a capsule, I'll be a little bit bigger now. And then second part of that question is we think about the 24 preliminary outlook. That did not change to reflect this methodology. It looks like any sort of reason to be behind that are just sort of too early.

Hey, good morning. Yeah, this is Jeff. So, I'll take the first piece and then David will help on the 24th. Yeah, so for us, it was pretty simple. We just want to make sure that we're being transparent and simple. And again, that's a well-known approach of when you've got material JV death that you sort of move to a proportional reporting method. And so that's what we're trying to do.

Obviously, with the Nexus, that was a material change in our JV debt, so that's why we're doing it now. Of course, we really like the JV debt, been able to finance at that level because we're able to do it in investment grade, non-recourse, and as you can see, the rate that we got, we're just tickled pink with that rate that we've got. We can do it at a lower cost.

So that's kind of why we made the change about this time. Yeah, maybe I'll pick up on the second half. So I'll comment briefly on Nexus. It was always contemplated that at the right time in the evolution of that pipe we would put JV level dead on it. So this is really just us executing the plan.

In terms of 2024, you know, there's puts and takes every quarter on forward-looking guidance. And, you know, this is no different. We have puts and takes in 2024. 2024 hasn't changed our view on our confidence in our 2024 guidance.

And it's been our practice that we'll refresh 2024 typically at the end of the current year. And as we bring it into the current prompt year cycle. So that's just kind of been our practice here.

No concerns there. Got it. Understood. It's all I had today, guys. Thanks as always for the color.

concerns there. Got it. Understood. That's all I had today, guys. Thanks, as always, for the color. Thanks for the questions. Yep.

Your next question comes from Michael Bloom with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Your next question comes from Michael Bloom with Wells Fargo.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just want to make sure I understand a couple of things. On slide 11, I think you reiterate your long-term four times leverage ratio ceiling. So just wanted to understand that a little bit better. Would you allow yourself to go above that in the short term if you're...

You're right, our commitment is to the long term four times, which includes the proportional just so that we're clear on that. And again, why we're comfortable with that four times is because we've got a high degree of demand contracts, stable cash flows, and we have no direct commodity exposure. So that's how we're why we feel good with that four. But you're spot on with the...

The investment profile that we currently have, we are going to be temporarily over that four times, probably by the end of this year. With our plan, we feel that we're going to be able to de-lever down into the mid-threes over the next several years on how things are going to play out. Thanks for that.

And then just wanted to ask about the increase in storage rates. I wonder if you can just quantify maybe the uplift in terms of either contribution or just like rate of change, how much upside are you seeing in storage rates.

Yeah, Michael, we've just seen a really strong storage market present itself over the last probably

Yeah Michael, we've just seen a really strong storage market present itself over the last probably five to six months.

And we had a significant amount of capacity rolling actually in our portfolio, just the way we have that portfolio structured. So the perfect team has been doing just an excellent job here in the first quarter. We're newing a number of contracts and capturing these higher rates. We're probably seeing...

a significant amount of capacity rolling actually in our portfolio just the way we have that portfolio structured. So the commercial team has been doing just an excellent job here in the first quarter renewing a number of contracts and capturing these higher rates. We're probably seeing rates that are...

She's 40 to 60 percent higher than we've seen perhaps last year in the storage market. So we're really encouraged by that. You know, I think we have talked to you folks about the storage market in the past and I'd say a couple of years ago we were sort of

So, as the market has materially improved, and I think it's a function of just a higher volatility in the energy complex here in North America, we've seen a lot of growth in the

the extent that we can inside or storage business. That's a bright start in the portfolio at the moment. It's always nice to have a diversified portfolio. I did it perfect. And then just last one for me. It just politics if I missed this. Have you declared the dividend for the first quarter? Thanks.

We have not, but we expect that will be coming shortly. We have a board meeting later this week, so stay tuned on that one.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Robert Mosa with Mizzoujo. Your line is now open.

And then also, you know, I think a couple years back you announced some contracts with new customers on Blue Union. Just wondering if you could update us with respect to, I guess, the tenor and bond commitments on those or expectations, and could that be a potential headwind to Haynesville volume in the short term? I think it's probably a good, good time toown inspired, that isn't true.

Yeah, yeah, Rob, thanks for the question. So we did, we signed up two new customers and I think as you know over the last couple of years was one of our strategic objectives as we wanted to bring on more new customers onto the Haynesville platform.

and start to diversify that platform a little bit. So these see new customers.

I can't get into the details other than I'll just characterize the type of producers they are. They're both smaller private producers. They're long-term contracts with dedications to our network.

details other than I'll just characterize the type of producers they are. They're both smaller private producers. They're long-term contracts with dedications to our network.

I think what was really encouraging for me to observe as a commercial team that's been working this is the value that these new customers see in our network. We have a wellhead to market network in the Haynesville. You know, I'll call it a wellhead to water network to the LNG wireless procurement location. So,

They really saw a lot of value in that, where they could deal with one company, just plug into the network and they're ready to go, so to speak. So we expect those two customers to come on towards the end of the year. But yeah, just encouraged by the efforts of the team to be able to...

more short-term offload agreements or those long-term contracts as well.

Those customers are still on the system and they're actually growing their volume on the system.

I'm just recalling in my mind right now, Rob, what we disclosed on those on those customers. But yeah, I would characterize them as longer-term customers on the system.

Okay, great. That's helpful. And then maybe for that 20% of committee capex that is in de-risk, so to speak. I mean, which projects, could you talk about which projects those relate to specifically and whether you're seeing anything above or below what you initially modeled in that period.

in B-RUS slash locked in. I'd say the open portion, the 20% is open, it's primary or related to the install cost. So it's what I'll call labor and the mechanical of putting it together, so to speak. Thank you.

significant cost pressures coming from all sides.

and delivery schedule pressures coming from all sides to hold the budget and hold the schedule for our customers so that we can deliver these products on time for our customers. So feel really good about the deep risking on a cappell side. And.

You know, maybe just some additional commentary on why we feel good about our guidance for this year. So just to remind everybody, the gathering side of our business now only represents about 35% of our business, so let's just start there. But all the wells that need to be drilled and brought online to support the expansion work that we're doing here in 2020.

one piece of our total business in terms of what we're going to deliver here in 2023.

Great, that's helpful. Thanks everyone. Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.

Your next question comes from Alex Kania with Wolf Research. Your line is now open.

activities, but just you know is there any kind of changes in tone that you're hearing from your Appalachian producer counterparties there in the gas environment? And the second one maybe just with respect to CCS, can you remind us just what the timeline may end up being right now just with respect to you know the federal EPA process or

Those percentages I just quoted for you sleep in terms of the activity we're seeing that supports our growth this year. That is a that covers our total gathering business so it reflects both Appalachia and Haynesville so we continue to see our customers performing. What we would expect them to perform.

in terms of our expansions in Appalachia, but a more general comment about Appalachia. We continue to see the activity. You've heard some of the public's, there's a moderation occurring in Appalachia, but probably not to the same extent.

that we're seeing in the Haynesville, my sense is it's primarily related to cost. There's there was a lot more inflationary cost pressure in the Haynesville than there was in Appalachia. And I think this is just my view is that I think producers are sending a little signal into the service.

half of the year and I also sense that

you know market fundamentals I think the ship will right itself towards the back end of the year here the second half of the year. You certainly still see pretty strong price signals in you know Cal 24, Cal 25, you know I think it's up for $3.24 and low $4.25.

Pretty healthy numbers in either basin for producers to drill into. So that's kind of what we're hearing at a high level in the market.

And I hope that's helpful. That your second question related to CCS in Louisiana.

You know, we've kind of publicly said timing for us is sort of the back end of 2025. And just to remind everybody for our project, our project involves the capture, our capturing and the great admissions from our own facilities in the Haynesville.

We will pipe it and we will sequester it. So we're doing all three components in this project. We've been working hand-in-hand with both the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources and the EPA with the expectation that we can come up with a full price ToWe in an E So,

that at some point the primacy would shift to Louisiana. So both parties have been sort of in the tent with us from date one and fully aware of all the work that has been done and that we're planning to do to support the application.

So we're encouraged by the letter last week. We know that Louisiana is very supportive of CCS within the state to support both their industrial base and their resource base in the state and we look forward to working with the state.

assuming the primacy does shift. Thanks very much. Your next question comes from Robert Mosa with Mizzoujo. Your line is now open.

Hey, thanks guys. Just a quick follow up here. Just wondering if you could address the decline in Haynesville volumes quarter over quarter? What drove that? Yeah, Rob, it wasn't anything more than just the timing of well completions.

I think we had a similar phenomenon last year. I think we kind of, the first half of the year tends to be a little lower. We tend to see the ramps in the second half of the year. That seems to be the pattern of our largest customer.

And again, it was fully contemplated in our plan and in our guidance. So we're very happy with Q1. We're on track for a four-year guidance based on our Q1 results.

All right, thanks everyone. There are no further questions at this time. David Slater, I turn the call back over to you.

Well, thanks everybody for joining us today and we certainly appreciate your support and interest and I look forward to seeing many of you later in the month at EIC.

for joining us today and we certainly appreciate your support and interest and I look forward to seeing many of you later in the month at EIC. Have a great day.

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