Q1 2023 Zomedica Corp Earnings Call

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Medicare's first quarter of 2023 earnings release call.

Speaker 2: As a reminder, this call is being recorded and all participants are in listen-only mode.

Speaker 2: The call will be open for questions and answers following the presentation.

Speaker 2: Peter Denator. Before we begin, the company would like to remind everyone that various remarks about future expectations, plans and prospects constitute forward to statements for purposes of safe harbor provisions under the private security's education reform act of 1995. The medical courtions that these forward to statements

Speaker 2: are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause the actual results to differ materially from those indicated, including risks described in the company's filing with the SEC.

Speaker 2: speak only as after-day as stage Wednesday may live in 2023 and the company does not intend to update any of these four statements to restrict events or circumstances that occur after over day.

Speaker 2: I will now pass the call over to the medical chief executive officer Larry Heaton. Please go ahead sir.

Speaker 3: Thank you.

Speaker 4: I'd like to start by thanking our shareholders for their support.

Speaker 4: wishing our prospective investors and analysts and others a good afternoon and welcome all of you to the Zometica first quarter 2023 earnings release call.

Speaker 4: On this call, I'll be providing an update on the business followed by Peter Donato, our Chief Financial Officer, who will walk through our financial results.

Speaker 4: After our prepared remarks, we'll open the line to your questions.

Speaker 4: Earlier today, Zomedica released its financial results for the quarter ended March 31, 2023.

Speaker 4: As we reflect on these results.

Speaker 4: We continue to be pleased and excited with the progress the team is making, not only financially and operationally, but also towards our strategic priorities.

Speaker 4: First off, financially, where our top priority is to grow revenue.

Speaker 4: The first quarter of 2023 was another busy quarter for us.

Speaker 4: Revenue of the quarter was 5.5 million, a 45% increase over the first quarter of 2022.

Speaker 4: driven by organic growth within our pulse-bath and true form of platforms.

Speaker 4: at the inclusion of our SEC and Bet Guardian products, which were not part of our consolidated figures last year. To every guest who has become an important partner, we have already completed our investment for another decade of the interdisciplines in Hendem ever. We have now completed our investment for another decade of the interdisciplines in Hendem ever.

Speaker 4: While sequentially down a bit from the fourth quarter of 2022, due to the seasonality of capital sales, as expected, it was a record first quarter performance and the second highest revenue quarter for the company.

Speaker 4: Truforma continued to show increased utilization and adoption producing a 222% increase over the first quarter of 2022.

Speaker 4: We were also pleased with the 8% year over year growth in our PulseSET products as we continue to penetrate the small animal veterinarian market selling 21 systems to this customer segment during the quarter.

Speaker 4: over your growth in our pulse-fed products as we continue to penetrate the small animal veterinarian market selling 21 systems to this customer segment during the quarter. Lettuce 1 of us celebrate our significance that we have received, we happened not exactly at 1 Week,

Speaker 4: Since our acquisition of pulse veterinary technologies about 18 months ago, we've only installed arrived down in some pulse veter judgments...

Speaker 4: 33% to approximately 1,800 installations. This is important since the system is a razor and blade model where the consumable troves produce substantial revenue for the company, averaging approximately 55% of total pulse rate revenue.

Speaker 4: Additionally, in the first quarter, we also began selling the Vettgardian Zero Touch Vital Science Remote Monitor, a novel, wireless monitoring technology.

Speaker 4: We were encouraged by the market's response to the vet guardian offering and on May 8th, we announced that we have exercised our option to acquire structured monitoring products, the makers of the vet guardian system, and expect to close on the acquisition subject to the completion of due diligence.

Speaker 4: We believe this transaction will enhance domestic visibility to bring the Vettgarde and Ground breaking touchless monitoring products to clinics around the world.

Speaker 4: On this acquisition also furthers our efforts to improving margins as we will be transferring manufacturing to our facility in Roswell, Georgia.

Speaker 4: Marge is remained strong at 70% and we expect these to continue at or around these levels, especially as we are transitioning distribution of RCC products from the current third-party logistics provider to our global manufacturing and distribution center in Roswell, Georgia during the current quarter.

Speaker 4: and transfer and grant guaranteeing manufacturing as I just mentioned to this facility once we close that transaction. Lastly, we want to continue our journey to both positive cash flow and gap profitability. We are pleased to report that we are seeing leverage on the GNA line.

Speaker 4: as we continue to invest in R&D and sales and marketing to grow commercially and through integration of acquired products. Operationally, we continue to invest considerable time and resources into developing and enhancing our internal processes and production capabilities.

Speaker 4: In the first quarter of 2023, we expanded our sales and marketing organization and related capabilities to address new product offerings and added sales territories. We further increased our manufacturing capabilities with today's announcement via 8K, as we will be expanding our production footprint at our Georgia facility by 50%.

Speaker 4: primarily to support transitioning of the true form of production line from our partner, Gourmo. We hired industry expert scientists, veterinarians, and other personnel with extensive experience and knowledge of the companion animal field. We leveraged an improvement of our administrative capabilities, making them scalable to a business with much higher revenue.

Speaker 4: And we continued expansion of marketing and the build-out of the Zometica brand, generating favorable commentary from veterinary professionals and pet parents. Strategically we continue to look for M&A opportunities that meet our rigorous internal financial and strategic hurdles, all while adhering to our five pillars, which are improving the quality of care for the pet.

Speaker 4: and we continued expansion of marketing and the build out of the Zometica brand, generating favorable commentary from veterinary professionals and pet parents. Strategically, we continue to look for M&A opportunities that meet our rigorous internal financial and strategic hurdles, all while adhering to our five pillars, which are improving the quality of care for the pet and the satisfaction of the pet parent.

Speaker 4: while also improving the workflow, cash flow, and profitability of our veterinarian partners. The decision to acquire structured monitoring products with its vet guardian product line is a good example of this. Achieving our strategic priorities requires a combination of growing revenue to a substantial level, efficient manufacturing that produces substantial margins, and investing in commercial capabilities to enable growth from both organic sources as well as through acquisition. This means that we will be increasing R&D spending over last year's levels as we transition the development of new true forma assays from Corvo to Zometica. We will be both compensating Corvo for transition services.

Speaker 4: and also building the internal R&D team. We will be both compensating Corvo for the development of assays already underway, equine EACTH and non-infectious GI.

Speaker 4: And also, beginning development of the next wave of true form of assays by our own team. Looking ahead, our per assay development costs will be significantly lower than what we've been paying core vote historically. But for this year, we'll see increases in overall spend for R&D versus 2022 levels.

Speaker 4: But expect these levels to remain fairly steady state from now, aside from expansion of the sales force itself. We are committed to achieving positive cash flow and profitability and see the steps we're taking now as essential in hitting these objectives as expeditiously as possible. In closing, we're very happy with what we were able to achieve during the first quarter and look forward to building on this momentum as we continue to be very optimistic about Zometicus future. And with that, I'm pleased to introduce you to our new chief financial officer.

Speaker 4: increases in quarters two and three before peaking in Q4 due to our capital selling cycle and higher utilization of those capital systems that we sold or placed earlier in the year.

Speaker 4: I'd like to include 11% of this growth was organic, with the rest coming from the acquisition and integration of RACC, RIVO, and Vet Guardian product lines. Achieving Q1 2023 sales and excessive historical averages is encouraging, given that our first quarter typically represents our lowest revenue quarter for the year, and generally about 20% or less of the overall annual sales. Allspat continues to grow organically, reflecting an 8% increase over the first quarter of last year, fueled by high margin troads and consumables. We believe allspat sales will remain strong.

Speaker 4: In 2023, especially given the seasonal step-up usually observed in the back half of our spelling year, this with continued efforts around development of the smell animal market.

Speaker 4: True pharma generated a 222% increase in revenue over the first quarter of last year. This was driven by organic growth in our cortisol, TSH and TT4 assays, and from our new assays launched last year, FT4 and EACTH.

Speaker 4: We expect Europe or your growth to continue, and we continue our investment in the development of additional assays, including the first assay for horses, and a panel of assays for non-infectious, gastrointestinal disease that we expect to launch later this year. A CC brought in $1.1 million of incremental revenue.

Speaker 4: Expect additional growth through the rest of 2023 from the sales of VetGuardian. As Larry mentioned, it's a zero-touch, wireless, vital sign monitoring system, which was launched in early January . As well as our new TrueView digital microscopy platform, which is expected to launch this quarter.

Speaker 4: In general, we expect to increase in subsequent periods the benefit from expanding our product lines and from our recent acquisitions and the increased investment and sales marketing as well as all commercialization efforts. In addition, sales will increase sequentially from the first quarter and hit their historical highs usually in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4: Our gross profit for the first quarter of 2023 was $3.8 million, an increase of $1.1 million or 41% from the first quarter of 2022. Margin remains strong in 70% and we expect them to remain at or above 70%.

Speaker 4: Inclusive of many of the cost and supply chain initiatives already underway within our company. Operating expenses are up $4.3 million or 61% from the first quarter of 2022.

Speaker 4: Research and development expense for the three months ended March 31st of 2023 were just over $900,000 compared to just under $400,000 for the three months ended in 2022.

Speaker 4: That's an increase of about a half a million dollars or 125 percent.

Speaker 4: The increase was primarily driven by our continued investment in our internal capabilities to develop, test, and manufacture our next generation of diagnostic products.

Speaker 4: Total SGNA for the three months ended March 31st, 2023, was $10.4 million. This compares to $6.7 million for the three months ended March 31st, 2022. That's an increase of $3.7 million or 55%.

Speaker 4: The sales and marketing portion of the total $10.4 million G&A was $3.7 million, or approximately 36% of the grand SG&A total. This compares to $1.4 million for the three months ended March 31, 2022, or approximately 22% of last year's total SG&A.

Speaker 4: The increase was primarily driven by hiring 22 additional people and sales, 16 of whom are selling directly to the customer. As well as to increase spending on marketing campaigns, increase the attendance at trade shows as we continue to build brand awareness and recognition of our ever expanding suite of products.

Speaker 4: The remaining portion of the $10.4 million SG&A line relates to non-commercial general administrative expense, and this totaled $6.7 million for the three months ended March 31, 2023. This compares to $5.3 million for the first quarter of last year, for an increase of $1.4 million.

Speaker 4: or 26 percent. We are pleased to report and see leverage in this cost category, even when considering that this year's increases were primarily the result of non-recurring charges, such as CFO transition costs. Another growth in integration related expenses. Operating loss for our first quarter was $7.5 million.

Speaker 4: up from $4.3 million a year ago and $5.1 million from last year's fourth quarter. When adjusting for one-time items associated with our Corvo Trueformer-related transition and our transition cost to a new financial-cheat financial officer, as well as adjustments from our Revo Earnout liability.

Speaker 4: All of the operating loss variants from prior periods are attributable primarily to the significant investments in the commercial personnel infrastructure as well as continued investments in R&D specifically diagnostics. Net loss for the three months ended March 31st, 2023, was $6.4 million or 0.007 per share compared to a net loss of $3.9 million or 0.004 per share for last year's first quarter.

Speaker 4: The increase in losses of about $2.5 million or 64 percent, again, was almost entirely attributable to the expanded commercial activities that we've been talking about.

Speaker 4: Moving to the balance sheet, our balance sheet is strong and we had cash, cash equivalents and available for sales securities of $147.5 million at the end of our first quarter this year compared to $195 million as of March 31st, 2022.

Speaker 4: Our decrease in cash was primarily driven by acquisitions of the CC and REVO platforms, Corvo-related transition payments, and our general operating activity. Our cash firm for this quarter was approximately $3.2 million when eliminating one-time items for business development activities.

Speaker 4: This burberry is relatively consistent with prior periods, and we should see improvements in operation as the year progresses, absent any one-time investments later in the year. I now hand the ball back over to Larry to finish the call.

Speaker 4: relatively consistent with prior periods. And we should see improvements in operation burned as the year progresses, absent any one time and vets since later in the year. I now hand the ball back over to Larry to finish the call. Thanks, Peter.

Speaker 4: So we had a very strong and record breaking first quarter. We were able to grow revenue by 45% as we continued to sell more of our established true form of and poll-side products while at the same time benefiting from the sales coming. From our CC, Rigo, and Vardy and acquisition during the course of last year.

Speaker 4: With focused marketing and commercialization efforts, building ever increasing brand recognition, the launches of our bedroom and true view products.

Speaker 4: and a release of new true forma assays, along with expected efficiencies coming through our core vote, transition work, and centralization of manufacturing and distribution capabilities.

Speaker 4: We think the future is bright for Zometica.

Speaker 4: Looking into the remainder of 2023, we'll continue to work diligently to bring Zobatica Sweet of World Leading products to an even greater number of veterinarians and their pet patients.

Speaker 4: So let me end our report by again thanking those that have been supportive of Zometica, including animal health professionals and pet owners worldwide, along with the many shareholders of Zometica stock.

Speaker 4: With that, I'd be happy to open the line for questions.

Speaker 2: Thank you sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting the question and answer session.

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Speaker 2: The first question comes from the Jason Colbert, by Dawson James.

Speaker 5: Hi guys, thanks for all the details on the quarter. What I really like to get is just an idea of where the bulk of the revenues came in. For example, can you share the revenue number on pulse vet versus true forma and assistee? That would be helpful.

Speaker 4: Sorry, I just lost my detail on that. I apologize. Oops. Is there another question while I dig for my detail? I apologize. So I will tell you that as in previous quarters while Peter's pulling the detail together, as in previous quarters, the bulk of the revenue came from PulseVet where we saw 8% increase over first quarter of last year. The new forma presented, so let's see. CC revenue was...

Speaker 4: similar to last quarter it was around 1.1 million.

Speaker 4: Yep, I have the exact numbers here. I'm going to go ahead and do it. So, pulse that is just under $1.5 million. The RIVO devices were just over 100,000. That guardian also around 100,000. The ECC, as Larry said, rate of 1.1 million.

Speaker 4: True Forma. And True Forma is just under 200,000 for a total of 5.5 million. I'm sorry, what was the pulse vent number?

Speaker 5: So, all stat number was just under $3 million. Okay. And sequentially it was 4.7 if I'm right in fourth quarter last year. So is that a cyclical, I mean that's a big cyclical drop. I'm just trying to understand if second, third and fourth quarter will be sequentially higher.

Speaker 4: Is there something else going on in that drop or that's just a cyclical drop? Yeah Jason, thanks for that question and that's a good question too. We see seasonality with the pulse of that technology in particular because the large portion of that is capital about.

Speaker 4: As I mentioned, 55% of our pulse fat revenue is consumables and that generally stays pretty steady from fourth quarter to first. But the capital in the fourth quarter is substantially higher than any other quarter in the year. And this has been something that we've seen historically. And so...

Speaker 4: and then it grows sequentially in the second, third, and fourth quarters. First quarter, lowest quarter of the year, generally, you know 20% or maybe a little lower of our total year sales. And then we see second quarter up, third quarter up a bit, and then a significant increase in fourth quarter as a lot of pulse-fed capital is closed during that fourth quarter. In fact, as I look at the sort of projections that you put out there, if you take the fourth quarter revenue where we, you know, were higher and the first quarter revenue where we're lower, you add them together, we're actually a little bit higher than the combined. So, I think you had it exactly right, just didn't.

Speaker 5: didn't know about the seasonality of that capital component. Okay, thank you. That's very helpful. One last question, which is, you know, I can hear in your voice the burning desire to get to cash flow positive. We're assuming that in 2024, you're going to be...

Speaker 5: you know, neutral to positive. Are you comfortable with that assumption?

Speaker 4: Absolutely.

Speaker 5: Absolutely. Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen just a reminder if you'd like to ask a question you're welcome to press star and then one.

Speaker 4: So operator, my understanding is that somehow the webcast link for people to be able to ask questions for this call was...

Speaker 4: either not presented or was incorrect or what have you and so I think that's going to limit some of the calls but we're certainly happen to take them. If you happen to be on the web and you'd like to ask a question, please dial in to the phone line and we'll be happy to answer them. Thank you.

Speaker 2: We'll pause a moment.

Speaker 4: I think we have one on the line now

Speaker 5: My apologies, sir. Thank you. The next question comes from Ruby Barogias, who is a private investor. Hi, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions. I was curious as far as Zomedica's marketing strategies, all I've seen so far is just trade shows and

Speaker 4: to veterinarians in the veterinarian community.

Speaker 4: You know, my background is in the human health space and their trade shows were important, but we didn't do any transactions at those trade shows. In the animal health industry, veterinarians bring their check clothes.

Speaker 4: to these trade shows. That's where they essentially go shopping. They're super busy in their practices and, you know, sometimes tough for them to allocate time to see new products. So when they go to these trade shows they buy. In fact, that's one of the reasons why our pulse fed capital revenue is so high in the fourth quarter and that's because the the annual, the big annual equine trade show.

Speaker 4: is in either November , late November , early December each year. And we sell as many pulse vet systems in that trade show as we do, you know, in some quarters. Just the routine way. But I don't want to have anyone believe that the only thing we do is market at trade shows.

Speaker 4: We also have a very robust social media program.

Speaker 4: The social media program is on Instagram. It's on Facebook. It's on Google. It's on Twitter and You know you have to kind of tailor your marketing efforts to who's going to see them It's not it doesn't really do a lot of good for example to try and reach that Trinarian professional

Speaker 4: Hey, take a look at this, take a look at that. These are products that you might wanna look into. We also do a lot of online marketing. We do a lot of extensive email, web-based email campaigns, two veterinarians around the country. This is a very effective way to get two vets who might otherwise not go to a trade show or aren't on social media.

Speaker 4: We also have a program that we call SOMETIC University.

Speaker 4: One of the things that all veterinarians and techs need are continuing education hours. And so we sponsor Zomedica University, which is a web-based program that offers every Wednesday during the year, a race-approved or a CE-approved program.

Speaker 4: education program where they can attend via the webinar. And then once they attend, then they get certificates for ongoing education, a continuing medical education credits which they need. We not only do these every Wednesday, but then we also have additional web programs that we do throughout the year. Thank you very much.

Speaker 4: These aren't for pet parents, although I suppose one of them could join if they wanted to. These are for vet professionals. In addition, our professional services veterinarians, we have four of them. They're out in the field, interacting with the salespeople and with the vet practices around the country.

Speaker 4: So, marketing to the animal health professionals, a combination of both marketing directly to them, you know, very directly. Here's a product you should buy. To sort of indirectly, marketing to them, which is, here's some educational information, which we'll talk to you about a disease state or an injury condition, which is treated very well or diagnosed very well.

Speaker 4: by our products and so it's a little bit of indirect marketing. And even further indirect marketing is through social media to the pet parents before they go in and sort of help the, I don't know, virtual salespeople for Zometica products. In fact, any of our shareholders that are on the call today, you know, next time you go to your vet, please have them give us a call.

Speaker 2: Is that answer your question? Yes, thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. A lady from the management just reminded her. You can ask her question. You're welcome to press star and then one. I need to have a phone keypad and that will place you in a question queue.

Speaker 4: I'll answer. We do not need to.

Speaker 4: and we have known plans to execute a reverse stock split. Reviewing data around reverse splits shows that there are much more often than not or results after the split. And we see that.

Speaker 4: Now while many companies that execute a reverse split do so because they're facing delisting, because they're on an exchange that has a $1 threshold and may have other issues such as they have maybe revenue declining or insufficient capital.

Speaker 4: While many companies that execute a reverse split do so because they're facing delisting, because they're on a exchange that has a $1 threshold, and may have other issues, such as they have maybe revenue declining or insufficient capital, we do not.

Speaker 4: $150 million and revenue last year of $19 million, you know, we would not expect ourselves to find ourselves in that condition. We certainly don't have declining revenue and we have with liquidity of almost $150 million and a burn, normalized burn of about $3.5 million a year, we think we're in pretty good shape. Now...

Speaker 4: We would, of course, like to see our stock price above the level that institutional investors can acquire it, because we think that would be helpful to all of our shareholders. But we would not attempt it unless we were highly confident that given the circumstances at the time, our post-foot results would be beneficial to our current shareholders.

Speaker 4: In any event, it's not just our confidence that would be needed, but also two-thirds of our shareholders would have to support it and vote in favor of it as well, which we believe is highly unlikely, at least for the near future. So put another way, the answer to that question is no.

Speaker 4: A second question that's often asked and I'll just go to it, I know there's another question on the line is will we be buying back shares?

Speaker 4: And the answer there is consistent with previous quarters. We continue to believe that in the economic climate that we're in, very uncertain, it is prudent to hold on to capital.

Speaker 4: Additionally, we believe that the best use of our capital for all of our shareholders is for us to use it to generate organic growth and support acquisitions that facilitate reaching profitability.

Speaker 4: As are immediate goals.

Speaker 4: are getting to cash flow positive and beyond to profitability. Back to you

Speaker 5: So thank you for taking my question. The question that I have is around the Truformo with the equine assay. My question is how attractive in the equine market will a single assay be?

Speaker 5: and using the razor blade model. How many units do you think are possible to move into that as far as...

Speaker 4: assay that we intend to launch for the equine market.

Speaker 4: It's the most important asset I think that horse owners could possibly get. We also intend to also launch our cortisol assay into that market. We just don't have a time frame on that yet, so not really harping that up yet. Okay.

Speaker 4: The assay that we have for endogenous ACTH for horses is a screen for a condition called equine pushing disease. It's also I think now called PPID, but it's equine pushing disease. Now the reason that this is important is that a horse is...

Speaker 4: 12 years old, maybe down to 10 years old, certainly over the 12, are highly susceptible to cushions disease. If they get cushions disease, and it's not hot right away, it's not treated, then that leads to laminitis.

Speaker 4: And the only course of action for a horse with laminitis is that horse gets put down. And so while it's only a single assay,

Speaker 4: It's an assay that could really truly mean the difference between life and death for horses that are of an age.

Speaker 4: And so we believe that veterinarians will adopt this, or equine vets, will adopt this very quickly, very rapidly, because this will be the opportunity for them to finally have a practical screen for this disease. We can't imagine any horse owner.

Speaker 4: ever declining to have this screen done for the price of the estimated markup by the veterinarians so that they make money off of it. And we can't imagine any equine vet not offering this to every horse that's of a certain age on a wellness visit basis.

Speaker 4: And so we're super excited about this particular assay. It is the first assay that we're launching that instead of an assay that's run by a vet when an animal pet presents symptoms like, boy, do you have symptoms? I think it's a adrenal disease. Maybe so let's do these assays.

Speaker 4: Once you pull the blood from the horse, you immediately freeze it. And then you send it off to a highly specialized center, an academic center to do the test. They can sometimes do, the small animal vets can sometimes do that in the clinic because they have a freezer right there and so on. Even then it's not great because the molecules start to degrade as soon as it's out of the body. But neither here nor there. Equine vets, they almost always go to the horse. They're stall side. So they don't have a big freezer that they can pop the blood into. So we're very optimistic about this assay. And we think that the fact that it's one assay just simply reflects the fact that it's the first of multiple assays that will come.

Speaker 4: But even if there weren't other assays, we think veterinarians are gonna really adopt this very quickly. Thank you very much. So how-

Speaker 5: Much revenue do you think that, I mean, what's the market for that single last day then? How much will that add to Zomadica's bottom line?

Speaker 4: So that's a good question and as we get closer to launching the product we'll we'll produce some data around that. I will tell you that there are about 2,400 equine vets in the United States. There's about 2,200 vets that do have mixed practices so it's a relatively small.

Speaker 4: group of veterinarians that we have to contact, so we think we can reach them in a fairly expeditious way in terms of rapidly penetrating the market. And I will say to you that the pulse vet system, which is sold, we sell now to small animal vets.

Speaker 4: For the last decade or so, it was sold primarily to equine vets and it has become a standard of care. And over the last 18 months, we have transitioned from

Speaker 4: PulseVets selling the device to EquineVets, to Zomedica's PulseVet division selling the device. And so when our salespeople or when we as a company approach these EquineVets, they're not dealing with a brand new company they never heard of, they're dealing with a company that has been providing them.

Speaker 4: with the very credible tried and true product that they've come accustomed to using as a standard of care pulse-fed. So we think we get some really good synergy from that situation.

Speaker 5: One last follow-up question on that then. You mentioned the US market. How does the US market compare with the international market for the equine population and is it possible to launch that as a internationally as well as

Speaker 5: on the state side in the near future. So, and you may?vale.

Speaker 4: So yes, right? So currently we sell both the Pulse Fed products and the SEC products outside the US through two different networks of distributors, which we are merging into a single network. The, you know, not every country...

Speaker 4: has the same sort of affinity for Horses as the US but many of them do and you can imagine, you know where they are all around the world about 20% of our revenue currently comes from international and of that probably I don't know 80% or more of that is post that

So that's sold to the horse nets. So we do expect to launch this product outside of the US. We actually, you know, we currently sell to, in North America, the Truforma assays. It's a matter of, you know, having the distribution set for them.

and we're currently working on selling into our first center in Brazil, South America. So as we launch this product, we'll use this as a springboard to launch through Forma XUS and certainly wherever there's a substantial equine market.

Thank you very much, I appreciate the information. You're welcome. Thank you. The next question comes from Varad Boon of Red Chip. Hi Larry, congratulations on another great quarter. I was wondering if either you or Peter could go over the gross margin for each product.

Thank you. The next question comes from Jim Franks of Lighting. Hey Larry, private investor here. I haven't heard in a while anything in regards to our cancer patent and do we have in the future any cancer detecting assays in the works? So the cancer patent was, thanks for the question, the cancer patent was issued as a result of work that was done several years ago.

in collaboration with a company called CELSI. CELSI was the entity that was developing, potentially developing a cancer assay and this patent arose out of that work which we did in collaboration with them. But several years ago, and we commented on this in the 10K that we issued three months ago, but.

several years ago, SELSI was sold to another company and it was sold to that company for things other than animal health assays in particular with answer and that company closed the program down and based on the stage of the program where it was at the time and the fact that the new acquirer of SELSI

did not see that it would be fruitful. They decided to close it down, and so our investment and our work in that area also stopped at that time. We disclosed that, I think, in a recent submission. I will say that the market since then, and perhaps if four years ago that product would have rapidly come to market, it would have been first to market, with that first mover advantage. But since then, there have been a couple of other companies that have come to market, one for measuring inflammation as a proxy for...

cancer and another one to do a cancer diagnostic. And so I think at this point you know given that there are other products already in the market purporting to do this, we decided we would wait and see whether or not those were going to be effective after all and whether there seemed to be a market for them before we

before we decided to go down the road with another instrument. It's apparently not possible to use the Truforma platform to determine whether a pet has cancer. And so we...

Fair enough that makes sense. Thank you again. Have a have a wonderful day

Have a wonderful day. Thank you very much.

Thank you. All ladies and gentlemen, with no further questions in the queue, we have reached the end of the question and answer session.

I would now like to turn the call back over to Larry Heaton for closing remarks.

Yep, thank you very much. I appreciate those of you who attended the call today. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your support of Zometica. Just because we have these calls once a quarter doesn't mean that's the only time that we'll be happy to talk to you. Feel free to reach out via email or...

or phone to our investor line. We'd be happy to talk to you at any point. We'll continue to work hard to help your company grow and increase the value of your holdings. Thank you for your time. Goodbye. Bye.

Thank you. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining us. We will now disconnect your lines.

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