Q1 2024 Planet Labs PBC Earnings Call

Speaker 1: Investor relations website, which are intended to accompany our prepared remarks. Finally, for each of the customer contracts referenced during this call, please note that the revenue figures we cite will generally be recognized over the term of the contract, which can last several years. Further, the terms of these contracts can vary and many of these contracts can be terminated by planet.

Speaker 1: or our customer prior to their maturity. As a result, we may not realize the total revenue expected for each such contract.

Speaker 1: At this time, I'd now like to turn the call over to Will Marshall, Planet's CEO , chairperson, and co-founder. Here to you, Will.

Speaker 2: Thanks, Chris. And hello, everyone. Thanks for joining the call today.

Speaker 2: Our first quarter financial results were solid.

Speaker 2: We generated $52.7 million in revenue, representing a 31% year-over-year growth, in line with our guidance. non-GAAP gross margins expanded to 56%, up from 45% in the prior year, an 11 percentage point increase, showing the ability for our one-to-many data business model to drive significant margin expansion at revenue scales.

Speaker 2: We ended the first quarter with over 900 unique customers spanning across government and commercial markets.

Speaker 2: While our Q1 results were in line with our expectations, we faced some recent headwinds in April and May, which inform our guidance for the year. I'll address this in a moment. Before that, I do want to underscore our sustained confidence in the market opportunity.

Speaker 2: In Q1, we saw the largest quarter for pipeline generation in the company's history. We saw rapid advancements in AI that are unlocking new possibilities with our data set. And we saw our products enabling our customers to address some of their most pressing security and sustainability challenges.

Speaker 2: That is all to say we continue to see strong demand for our solutions. Let me now address our update to guidance for this year.

Speaker 2: The primary driver is that sales bookings came in lighter than we expected.

Speaker 2: In recent weeks we observed a combination of factors coming together including extended sales cycles as well as some of our larger deal opportunities closing with smaller values than anticipated.

Speaker 2: We believe these recent changes reflect hesitation from customers as they enter a year with heightened budget uncertainty, as well as government procurement cycles taking longer than we expected.

Speaker 2: Because of our data subscription business model, lighter bookings in the beginning of the year have a more significant impact on the fully revenue forecast than bookings in later quarters.

Speaker 2: Furthermore, because we believe this customer behavior may continue, we are revising our guidance presuming these trends go on for the remainder of the fiscal year. To maintain our part of profitability at this lower assumed revenue growth rate, we are adjusting our expense plan.

Speaker 2: We have significantly throttled back our headcount expansion plans, which generate savings in the current year, but more importantly, we estimate these changes will reduce our annual run rate expenses by more than $35 million going into next fiscal year.

Speaker 2: We believe this adjustment to our expense plan supports our standing objective to be adjusted E-Ridor profitable no later than Q4 of next year. In scaling back our spend, we're prioritizing investments that support revenue for our core business and our path to profitability.

Speaker 2: We're focusing our resources on our highest ROI customers and opportunities, as well as looking at additional ways to optimize expenses.

Speaker 2: We are fortunate to have higher gross margins and the operational levers in the business that enable us to do this. I'd like to emphasize that through this we continue to believe we have sufficient capital on our balance sheet to capture the market opportunity, drive strong growth and achieve cash flow breakeven without needing to raise further capital.

Speaker 2: As I stated earlier, our conviction in the opportunity for our business over the long term remains strong. Let me expand on some of the recent deals and other signals that give us confidence.

Speaker 2: Firstly, on demand. As mentioned, we generated a record amount of qualified pipeline opportunities in Q1. It was more than double the quarterly average of the prior year.

Speaker 2: For some additional color, let me mention that we added five new eight-figure potential customer opportunities to the pipeline for FY24 during this first quarter.

Speaker 2: We've never seen anything like the scale of these large opportunities.

Speaker 2: Generating qualified pipeline lays the foundation for future growth year on year. Now it's up to us to convert that pipeline into bookings and revenue.

Speaker 2: Secondly, on AI, the recent advances in AI and the potential that generative AI and large language models in particular have to unlock value in our data is a further catalyst to our existing tailwinds. On our last call, we shared how our partner Synthetic ran AI models on our data archive to track the Chinese high altitude balloon to its origin.

Speaker 2: model running on planet data and extracting insights. Their solution automates the analysis of large unstructured data sets like ours so that even a non-technical user can detect objects in minutes or train and deploy AI models radically faster than even traditional AI approaches.

Speaker 2: It's hard to overstate the power of this. Being able to search the world for objects on demand has huge value for Defence and Intelligence customers, civil governments and for sustainability applications too.

Speaker 2: It's been inspiring to watch the reaction of customers and prospects when they see the value that the combined capabilities of these models and our proprietary data unlocked. Similarly, we also signed a partnership with South Korea-based AI company SI Analytics. SI Analytics plans to use Planet Data to help customers and customers in their lives.

Speaker 2: for a North Korea ballistic missile operations search project.

Speaker 2: with the goal of enhancing global risk management and mitigating tensions in Asia and beyond. If you joined us in our user conference in April , you will have seen our demonstration of Queerable California, which you can find online. This is a proof of concept project from our ongoing collaboration with Microsoft. The Queerable California demo.

Speaker 2: aims to show how next generation AI can make satellite data more accessible by making it searchable, conversational, and context-aware. While only the video is available in your browser today, it's a glimpse of what's possible when you combine our proprietary data with industry-leading AI capabilities.

Speaker 2: It's another milestone in our journey towards building a queryable earth, a vision I outlined five years ago at TED 2018. These AI centered partnerships are just the beginning. We see AI as a catalyst to help unlock the full potential of our deep data archive.

Speaker 2: which has the depth and consistency that others in the industry can't match, enabled by a unique earth scanning constellation.

Speaker 2: AI models themselves hold little or no value without data to run on, but Planet Data and AI is an incredibly powerful combination. In short, Planet sits on the treasure trove of real-time and archived data that is an incredible asset for this AI revolution.

Speaker 2: Thirdly, I'd like to share some additional business highlights that represent the pressing issues that our solutions are helping customers address.

Speaker 2: In the last month, we closed two multi-year deals with international customers centered around defense and intelligence applications. One in eight figures to a partner and one in seven figures.

Speaker 2: Overall, in a world of heightened global tensions, the need for greater security and transparency is clear. Recent global events are driving elevated interest in our capabilities amongst the Defence and Intelligence community. Turning to commercial clients, we extended our strategic partnership with AXA Climate, which I previewed on our prior call. AXA is a leading provider of consultancy services helping clients adapt to climate change.

Speaker 2: biodiversity loss.

Speaker 2: The partnership aims to offer continued satellite data-driven insights for the development of parametric insurance products.

Speaker 2: In Q1, we also closed a 7-figure multi-year renewal and expansion with Syngenta, which will enable their use of Planetscope to globally set the foundation for growth, new applications, and R&D in precision agriculture.

Speaker 2: Syngenta's existing work with Planet over the last several years has included using SkySat for monitoring corn and soy as well as plot verification.

Speaker 2: Turning to climate and sustainability, we have a few partnerships to mention here.

Speaker 2: The United Arab Emirates is hosting this year's climate conference COP28. With this context, we recently signed a partnership with the UAE Space Agency to build a regional satellite data-driven loss and damage atlas for climate change resilience.

Speaker 2: The initiative aims to provide our data to countries facing high degrees of climate risk so that they can better respond, make informed policy decisions, and enable financial programs for climate adaptation and mitigation.

Speaker 2: We are also seeing that sustainability regulation in various geographies is a significant catalyst for wide-scale adoption by civil government. Let me mention a few examples. Europe's Common Agriculture Policy, or CAP, drives the need for governments in Europe to monitor for compliance. Together with our partner, NEO, we closed a new deal with a Dutch paying agency.

Speaker 2: We're delivering Planet Fusion as part of the area monitoring system provided to the Netherlands by NEO as part of their efforts in turn to increase automation of their monitoring. Relatedly, Planet won a multi-year, seven-figure Open Tender award from the Welsh Government to support the design and implementation of the Rural Investment Schemes and the Sustainable Farming Scheme.

Speaker 2: Similar to CAAT, coming down the pipe, we expect the newly adopted and far-reaching EU regulation on deforestation-free products to be a driver. It forces companies bringing any of seven commodities into the EU to prove that they did not cause deforestation, all starting next year.

Speaker 2: In our view, satellite data is the scalable solution for monitoring to ensure compliance.

Speaker 2: Turning to South America, we recently signed a seven-figure multi-year contract with Bolivia's Institute for National Agrarian Reform, or INRA. It's our largest deal in a Spanish-speaking country. INRA is using Planetscope and SkySat to map the country and monitor for good stewardship of public lands and title enforcement. They're also using our archive to gain insight into previous land use.

Speaker 2: Planet Data has proven more cost effective than the alternative of flying airplanes to capture imagery for INRA.

Speaker 2: Finally, on the sustainability thread, the Environmental Resources Management, or EIM, a global sustainability consultancy, also became a planet partner.

Speaker 2: ERM brings deep subject matter expertise to clients across industries, contributed to more than 20,000 sustainability-related projects each year. The partnership is designed to expand their imagery, use cases, applications and reporting capabilities, helping enable decision-makers to address their operational and sustainability goals.

Speaker 2: These recent wins are indicative of a diversity of customers we can serve and critical needs that our data address.

Speaker 2: Now to give a brief update on the M&A front. This last week we launched planetary variables live on Planet's subscription API, enabled through the Van de Satte acquisition. These products have opened new opportunities for us in markets like insurance.

Speaker 2: We've also been pleased with our recent acquisition of Sailor Sciences. The integration is going well, and they've been successfully executing to plan. At our Planet Explorer conference, we announced that we would add new planetary variables building on that team's work, and they've already delivered on multiple sales opportunities for Planet.

Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in Q1, we announced our intention to acquire the business of Synergize, and I'm pleased to say that it's still on track to close this quarter.

Speaker 2: We view these synergized acquisitions as a key part of our strategy to bring the power of Earth observation to the mainstream and to position us to support regulatory programs such as the EU's Common Agricultural Policy that I mentioned earlier.

Speaker 2: To summarize...

Speaker 2: We delivered solid Q1 results and had our strongest pipeline generation quarter in the company's history.

Speaker 2: Bookings came in lighter than we expected, with some sales taking longer than expected and others landing at smaller valleys than anticipated.

Speaker 2: We're responding by adjusting our spending plans, prioritizing our investments on customers and opportunities where we see the highest ROI, and as a result, we are maintaining our profitability objective for next year. Our conviction in the significant scale of the opportunity for our business remains strong. And with that, I'll turn it over to Ashley.

Speaker 3: Thank you, Will, and thanks everyone for joining us today. As Will mentioned, our revenue for the first quarter of Fiscal 24 ending April 30th came in at $52.7 million, which represents 31% year-over-year growth.

Speaker 3: As of the end of Q1, recurring ACV or annual contract value was 93% of our book of business.

Speaker 3: Over 90% of our book of business consists of annual or multi-year contracts.

Speaker 3: Our average contract length continues to be approximately two years weighted on an ACB basis.

Speaker 3: Net dollar retention rate, which we measure relative to the book of business at the beginning of each year, was 98%, and net dollar retention rate with winbacks was 99%. It's important to understand that at this point in the year, our net dollar retention rate is reflective of only three months. If you look at our prior two years of net dollar retention rate as detailed in our quarter year, our net dollar retention rate is screaming mastered by increased numbers of people, not

Speaker 3: delays in renewing certain government contracts.

Speaker 3: For the full year, we are targeting an approximate 120% net dollar retention rate consistent with the targets that we have shared for the business in the past.

Speaker 3: Turning to gross margin, we expanded our non-GAAP gross margin to 56% for the first quarter of fiscal 24, compared to 45% in the prior year. This 11-point expansion of gross margins is driven by the growth of revenue, the efficiency of our agile aerospace approach, and our one-to-many data subscription business model.

Speaker 3: As a reminder, we include the depreciation and amortization of CapEx in our cost of goods sold, mirroring the practices of publicly traded SaaS businesses.

Speaker 3: Adjusted EBITDA loss was $19.1 million for the quarter. Capital expenditures, including capitalized software development, were $7.1 million for the quarter, or approximately 13% of revenue. This is lower than we anticipated due to the timing of receiving materials.

Speaker 3: Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $376 million of cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments.

Speaker 3: which we continue to believe provides us with sufficient capital to invest behind our growth accelerating initiatives without needing to raise additional capital.

Speaker 3: We also continue to have no debt outstanding. At the end of Q1, our remaining performance obligations, or RPOs, were approximately $138 million, of which approximately 80% apply to the next 12 months and 29% to the next two years.

Speaker 3: As we've shared on prior calls, RPS can fluctuate quarter to quarter as multi-year contracts come up through renewal.

Speaker 3: Also, please keep in mind that our reported RPOs exclude the value associated with the EOCL contract as well as other contracts that include a Termination for Convenience clause, which is common in our federal contracts.

Speaker 3: While our Q1 results were solid, the lighter than expected bookings in the past couple months that Will mentioned earlier have led us to update our outlook for the full year. We are lowering our assumptions for new and expansion business in Fiscal 24 and modeling longer sales cycles and smaller average deal sizes, consistent with what we've recently observed.

Speaker 3: I'll note that we signed two contracts in the last two months that were seven or eight figures in size, but that are not expected to drive significant incremental revenue until Q3 or Q4 this year because of the expected timing of data consumption and the associated revenue recognition. So some of the challenge around our updated revenue forecast is timing. We see a similar challenge as we look forward to Q2.

Speaker 3: as some of our customers with contracts that are up for renewal in Q2 and Q3 are slowing data consumption to stay within their annual contract allowance. We believe the adjustments we have made to our forecast in response to all of these factors address the headwinds we saw and position us appropriately for the remainder of the year.

Speaker 3: With the changes we have made, as of the end of Q1, approximately 80% of our revenue forecast for the year is already committed. And that's before factoring in additional renewals, new business, or revenue from the acquisition of Synergize.

Speaker 3: We'll already outline how we're adjusting our expense plans and prioritizing our spend in light of our updated revenue outlook. We expect these adjustments to generate savings in the current year, but more importantly, we expect it to reduce our planned operating expense run rate at year-end by over $35 million to support our targeted path to profitability.

Speaker 3: I'd like to underscore our commitment to the objective of achieving adjusted EBITDA profitability by no later than the fourth quarter of fiscal 25, or calendar year end 2024.

Speaker 3: As we've said before, we have multiple levers to align our spend to growth rates, both on the CapEx and OpEx side of our business.

Speaker 3: We expect we can make these adjustments while continuing to maintain our competitive lead in the market.

Speaker 3: Turning to guidance, for the second quarter of Fiscal 24, we expect revenue of $53 to $55 million, which represents growth of approximately 11% year over year at the midpoint.

Speaker 3: Please note that the year-over-year growth rate is adversely impacted by the revenue upside of approximately $5.5 million that we delivered in the second quarter of fiscal 2023, which was driven by elevated usage with a number of our consumption customers.

Speaker 3: The heightened usage rates last year create a challenging year-over-year comparison, especially if some customers have adjusted their usage rates down to stay within their annual budget envelope, as I mentioned previously.

Speaker 3: In addition, the year-over-year growth rate comparison is impacted by the conclusion of a large legacy contract in Q1, which we referenced on our last earnings call.

Speaker 3: We expect non-gap gross margin for Q2 of 48 to 49 percent.

Speaker 3: The sequential decline in gross margin reflects the accelerated depreciation of two of our SkySat satellites, which we expect to lower and re-enter the Earth's atmosphere later this year and mid next year, earlier than initially estimated, which was caused by an unusual increase in solar activity.

Speaker 3: that we and other LEO satellite operators have experienced in recent months. Our approach to Earth observation provides us with significant redundancy to our operations, such that we continue to have capacity to onboard new customers and are not concerned with our ability to serve existing customers with the SkySat fleet.

Speaker 3: Our adjusted EBITDA loss for the second quarter is expected to be between negative 20 and negative 17 million dollars.

Speaker 3: We are planning for capital expenditures of approximately $10-14 million. For the full fiscal year ending January 31, 2024, we expect revenue to be between $225 and $235 million, or growth of 18% to 23% year-over-year.

Speaker 3: which includes approximately $7 million of revenue we expect from the synergized acquisition based on an assumed closure in mid Q2. Our non-gap gross margin is expected to be between 52% and 54%, which is lower than prior guidance both because of the lower revenue guidance

Speaker 3: and the approximately $5 million of additional depreciation expense.

Speaker 3: Adjusted EBITDA loss is expected to be between negative 67 and negative 58 million dollars.

Speaker 3: We expect CapEx to be approximately $45 to $55 million, or approximately 20 to 23 percent of revenue. As shared on our prior call, CapEx for this year is driven primarily by investments in our Pelican program, which is on schedule to be ready in advance of the end of life of our SkySat fleet. Overall, we're pleased with how the program has been progressing, and look forward to our first tech demo, currently scheduled for launch later this year.

Speaker 3: data and our first SASB disclosure.

Speaker 3: This marks just the beginning of our ESG reporting journey, and we are excited to share our progress with all of you as we continue to grow and scale our operations and impact. You can find our ESG report on our website at planet.com.esg.

Speaker 3: Operator, that concludes our comments. We can now take questions.

Speaker 4: Certainly. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, press star one. We kindly ask participants to limit themselves to two questions today due to the volume of attendees in queue.

Speaker 4: As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question.

Speaker 4: A reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. We will pause here briefly as questions are registered.

Speaker 4: The first question is from the line of Ryan Kuntz with Needham & Company. You may proceed.

Speaker 5: Thanks for the question. I'm trying to correlate some of the change in mix in Q1 with the downtick and the outlook for the rest of the year. It looked like...

Speaker 2: North America was a little soft and commercial was quite soft in your fiscal first quarter Is it fair to kind of extrapolate that that's a source of weakness for the balance of the year? Well, I'd say I mean a lot of it is timing And and and some of it is the legacy contract there there clearly are some sometimes

Speaker 3: that completed in Q1, and that was a North America contract. So that's certainly going to be one of the factors.

Speaker 5: On the change in gross margin outlook, I didn't quite catch everything you said there about the sky sat decline. Was there an accelerated depreciation or something that's impacting gross margin beyond just volume there? Right.

Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it exactly right. So there are two satellites where we're now estimating a shorter useful life. So the impact to COGS on this year is roughly $5 million and that's a relatively recent development. So it just started at the very tail end of Q1, but most of the impact is hitting Q2 through about Q1 next year. And if I may just add a little bit of context here, what's going on is that...

Speaker 5: I'll pass the question to you. Thanks.

Speaker 6: Great. Thank you.

Speaker 7: Thank you, Mr. Kuntz. The next question is from Trevor Walsh with JNP. You may proceed. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Appreciate it. Will, maybe just to ping off your comments on that – from that last question, would that abnormal sun activity just –

Speaker 7: potentially affect competitors a little bit more in earnest since they might have a smaller fleet and so they have less to kind of be able to depend on kind of as a backfill if you will or do you not see that necessarily kind of affecting them in that way.

Speaker 2: Yeah, well, absolutely. So the most important thing about our fleet is the significant redundancy we have on our system. And that's both on the high resolution fleet, the SkySat and the Dove fleet that does the daily scan. Yeah, we obviously, the other thing to bear in mind is our Azure Aerospace approach just in the...

Speaker 7: Great, terrific. And then maybe just to follow up around the consumption piece, either jump off for you or for Ashley, do you get the sense as customers are maybe curling back or curtailing their consumption rates a little bit to match the contracts, is that really a function of just what's happening with the macro and kind of budgetary concerns? Or –

Speaker 7: Would there also just be just larger right sizing of their kind of consumption just based on, you know, they've had a year or two to understand what their needs are and they're just now right sizing the contract regardless of macro or is it really just attributable to them not wanting to kind of get ahead of their skis as far as kind of, you know, just giving the uncertainty in the more marked environment? Does that make sense?

Speaker 3: It does make sense. I'd say the good news is as we look forward to on the renewals front, actually we continue to see a strong line of sight to a strong renewal rate this year. We're still targeting north of 120% NDRR.

Speaker 3: So it's not that we're seeing contracts renewing necessarily at smaller amounts. The issue is, as I mentioned last year, we saw a pretty significant uptick in the pace of consumption starting in Q2. We attributed that to, we had rolled out a number of software improvements that frankly just made it easier to access the data.

Speaker 3: And we cautioned at that time that we didn't know whether customers would renew early or increase the size of their contracts, because if they continued at that pace, they would use up their contract allowance early. And what we're seeing now is as we're getting to those Q2, Q3 renewal dates, we're actually seeing customers slow down.

Speaker 3: because frankly they just can't get the budget ahead of when it's set at the renewal date. So that's a little bit of what we're seeing that's impacting some of the Q2 compares in particular. Great. Thanks for taking questions.

Speaker 3: get the budget ahead of when it's set at the renewal date. So that's a little bit of what we're seeing that's impacting some of the Q2 compares in particular. Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Great. Thank you.

Speaker 4: Thank you, Mr. Walsh. The next question is from the line of Jason Gerstke with Citigroup. You may proceed.

Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. You just provide a little bit more color on what's going on with the government contracts. You suggested that things are not moving along as fast as you would like either on New Deals or

Speaker 5: renewals. Where are you seeing that behavior? Is it here in the United States? Outside of the United States? Just a little bit more color on what's going on with the government markets would be helpful.

Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to do that. So yeah, firstly, you know, we have seen the softness on the commercial side before. There's a little bit new data points on the government piece, as is by the way, the elongation on the commercial side. But on the government piece, I think that we've seen some of these procurement cycles taking longer than we had expected.

Speaker 2: not aware of any distinction there. Does that answer your question?

Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. So you're not seeing it concentrated either inside or outside the United States. It's everywhere.

Speaker 2: No, no. And you know, just to shed a tiny bit more light on that, just to use one of the eight figure deals that we had mentioned remarks slipped it but now it's signed and the revenue increase really takes up is expected to take up later in the year like Q3.

Speaker 3: the deal was kind of expected to land right at the end of the quarter, kind of slipped into early Q2.

Speaker 3: got awarded the business, but that process of getting the ink on the paper is just taking a little longer. Seeing just some of the government bureaucracy taking up and unclear whether this is, you know, just a point in time or whether there's something else going on where, you know, given the economic...

Speaker 3: economic environment, governments also are getting more scrutiny around getting these procurements over the gold line. So we're looking at it and trying to understand it. Right now we're making the assumption that deals are going to be slower so that we factor that into our revenue assumptions. But it's kind of early days.

Speaker 5: Do you have the second question? Look, I know you've added a lot of...

Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. I know you've added a lot of headcount and CSM, you know, headcount, so sales headcount, CSM headcount.

Speaker 5: I'm just kind of curious how accurate you all have been in the past in forecasting out this kind of activity. And given the growth that you've all seen, whether the accuracy is not as robust as it has been in the past. Just trying to get an understanding of whether this is truly a market thing or if this is

Speaker 5: a result of potentially some growing pains as you all are bringing in, onboarding a lot of new people, and you're all trying to figure out the right process to be able to get the visibility that you need to appropriately manage the business.

Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a fair question. We had a lot of activity going on in Q1. We had our Explorer conference, which was phenomenal. We had our sales kickoff. We had two really phenomenal international conferences at Munich Security and Davos. All of that led to, as Will referenced, a really strong pipeline, one of, I think, our best ever as a company.

Speaker 3: and significantly above our historical averages. So all of that was pointing to a lot of great activity going on. And I think to your question is, is some of this now, you know, is a lot for the team to be processing. We have a lot of new people that we were onboarding. And so is some of that factoring into the delays in, you know, getting the getting the deals closed.

Speaker 3: I think in general the important thing is one, just great signals from the market, so having the pipeline. Two, we remain very confident in our team's ability to close it. But to your point, we want to make sure that we're factoring in, whether it's the macroeconomic environment or to your point, new people in forecasting.

Speaker 3: We want to make sure that we're factoring in just some data points we saw coming out of Q1 and to how we're thinking about the rest of the year so that you know, we don't run into this kind of situation in future quarters. Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker 4: Thank you, Mr. Gerske. Our next question is from Mike Lattimore with Northland. You may proceed. Thank you, Mr. Gerske.

Speaker 5: Thanks very much. Just on the OPEX changes you're planning this year, can you just give a little more detail there across the board? And then I guess in the midst of that, what is the thought on the sales headcount growth this year?

Speaker 2: Well, maybe I can talk to the former and actually can talk a little bit to the latter. Overall, we're prioritizing to high ROI business areas, as we sort of mentioned in our remarks. On the go-to-market side, what that really means is that it's been streamlined and focusing on technologies andord

Speaker 2: high ROI business areas in terms of geographies, vertical markets, higher ROI products, moving some of the long tail smaller deals to our partners and to our platform, hence the synergize acquisition. On the product side, I don't know if you saw our PlanXplore conference and what we announced there, but we really talked about

we'll be focusing more on the former and less on the latter given the situation here. Ashley, do you want to take the second bet? Oh, great. Yes, so I think what's important is...

But again, a lot of positive signals in terms of the market and the demand. And so as we'll reference, there are areas where we will continue to invest and obviously having to feed on the street in those places where we have the pipeline and need to make sure we have the teams to go close it. And similarly, behind those products where we are feeling a lot of pull for the market still and want to make sure that we are getting the right

Yeah.

I just found the pipeline, it sounds like that was very strong in the quarter and you referenced I think five eight-figure deals. Are there any commonalities among those deals in terms of new logos or expansions or booing sounds

commercial versus government, and then how did the sort of seven-figure pipeline do in the quarter?

What was the last bit? How does it work? It's a seven figure. How was that in the quarter? Well firstly, we've never seen pipeline generation quite like this last quarter and we really scrutinized and only had to put qualified deals into our pipeline.

and to have those five eight-figure deals is just, again, we've noticed anything like it. Most of that is in the government space, but there is a healthy mix between civil government and defense and intelligence, so it's quite a variety of applications. And what we're seeing drive this, as we hinted at a little bit on the call, and C

There's the sustainability regulations that are driving big deals, and then there's also AI which is It's really an accelerant and a catalyst So, you know, we're seeing this pretty strong momentum of these seven and eight figure deals And you heard some of the wins that I spoke about. So yeah

but submarine is off the charts pipeline generation, which is why it's a level of mixed signals when we're talking about the Reducing the revenue growth rate. Thanks.

submarine is off the charts pipeline generation, which is why it's a level of mixed signals when we're talking about the reducing the revenue growth rate. Thanks. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Lattimore. Our next question is from Jeffery VanRee with Craig Howland. You may proceed. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. A couple. First, just walk me through the sales, I guess just the sales and usage environment.

and how it evolved, particularly when this weakness started to really manifest itself. Just a little more precision on when and what you saw. Yeah, I'd say in general we always expect back-end loading on a quarter for closing bills. We had the pipeline coming in, we had...

nice eight figure deal closed in May. We had a couple other wins that came over the goal line right in the final weeks or early in May. So the signal remained relatively strong. But there were, as I mentioned, one where we got the award still working to get the ink on the paper. We'll reference the eight figure deal where...

because of budget constraints on the part of the customer, they actually won't uptick their usage until much later in the year, which from our revenue recognition perspective, even though we've got this multi-year committed dollar amount, when we actually start to record that revenue is gonna be later than what we anticipated. And so those were some of the factors that caused us to have to refund the numbers as we were...

closing out the quarter. And then as we just looked at some of the metric averages coming out of the quarter, you know, historically we've talked about, you know, sales cycles accelerating and average deal sizes improving and things of that nature. And this is really the first quarter where as we ran those numbers we saw the trend going the opposite direction. And so, you know, we could treat that as a blip or we can make assumptions of such.

going on with our sales team. We know we have to close the business, but you know we want to make sure that as we think about what's going to close when we take more conservative assumptions so that we can size the expenses accordingly. Maybe the only thing I would just add to that is that keep in mind that this is just very recent data and really only data point of one in a sense. So

and we're creating new markets here, but we're paying close attention to it and understanding it more with time. But yeah, as Ashley was also saying, we've got the demand and the pipeline here. It's up to us to convert it.

Okay, and then my last question, just to read it back to you, it sounds like you're saying you didn't see any differences really with respect to civil D&I commercial, whether it was new business booked in the quarter, usage, pipeline, it sounds like you're kind of calling in those all,

whereas historically we've seen them trend up. We saw sales cycle. Sorry, Ashley, no, I'm sorry. I definitely didn't, I didn't phrase it well. I was just, I guess the question was, civil DNI and commercial specifically, the weakness obviously you're taking everything down going forward. Are you taking down equally in terms of the outlook in each of those civil DNI commercial usage and new business across the board? Maybe I didn't phrase it well.

Oh, got it. Yes. Okay, good. Yeah, I'd say generally across the board and in particular, like I said, some of the larger contracts where they were on that accelerated pace of usage over the last few quarters,

We've been engaging with those customers around the renewal, and that is, there's a lot of that for example in government where they just frankly don't have the budget lined up until the quarter of the renewal. And so those are some of the things that we're factoring in. And I don't think it's specific to any one sector. I think the surprise to us was, you know, historically we've seen the government.

actually being strong in spite of the macro headwinds, whereas we saw a lot of caution already on the commercial side. This impact of budget cycles for governments is a relatively new phenomenon. Again, I don't anticipate any challenges with the renewals. It's just because they've been on such a high usage rate, the timing of getting that renewal versus getting that new revenue in is working against us. And again,

line of Christine LaWag with Morgan Stanley . You may proceed.

Good afternoon, guys. Maybe bridging the slower booking in the quarter that you mentioned and the smaller revenue conversion, do you bridge that versus a doubling of qualified pipelines? How similar or different are the customer profiles that's driving the near-term headwind versus the longer-term tailwind?

Yeah, I mean, just to your general point, there's the mixed signals here. We did have an incredibly strong pipeline generation quarter and we saw some slowness in bookings, especially in recent weeks. So, you know, sales are elongating and so on. I don't think there's a distinction in the mix between the past and the future.

with the bookings result and it's our job to now spend the rest of the year converting that pipeline into revenue.

Yeah, and to your question about sectors, I think the mixed signals actually span all the sectors. We saw some really strong pipelines and strong interests from customers across commercial sectors like insurance and agriculture. We referenced some of these in the call.

and the energy space, so there is a lot of really good activity going on there. I do think that there is heightened budget scrutiny, and when you're talking about a market-making activity, you're not necessarily just replacing another budget. You're actually, as a commercial customer, you're having to make budget for something that's new, and so that makes for longer sales cycles, especially in this environment.

But the good news is what we see is a lot of strong activity on that front pointing to pipeline and demand. On the government side, as Will referenced, there's so many things going on right now that are tailwinds for our business, from peace and security, more obviously on the DNI side, but also a lot of the regulatory activity going on on the sustainability.

or complementary capabilities with your competitors? Or is it that they're really completely cutting this category of spend and even resulting in a smaller bookend?

I'll just comment on the competitive piece. I mean we're not seeing us lose any deals to competitors basically. These are much more macroeconomic budget related issues and or government complexity of deals than it is in the competition. Mainly because our solution is completely unique.

especially the David Gahan, which drives a lot of these deals. Ashley, anything to add? Yeah, I'd actually say it's...

quite the opposite from what you described in terms of it's not necessarily that they're downsizing because there's not demand for the broader data amounts, but rather they're pacing the consumption so that they can get the budget dollars in for the larger deals. So I can think of a number of examples off the top of my head where the customer has used the budget that they had available to get the contract started and to get going with our data.

while they line up budget to have a larger consumption later in the year. But sometimes it takes time to line up the budget. Yeah, that takes time, but I think that's indicative of the fact that they're actually trying to figure out how to get more budget dollars allocated our way versus scaling it back. Great, thank you. We'll see, squeeze one more.

and profitable and you're going to protect the

and you're gonna protect the data that you have.

of being able to search the planet is incredible and that's what's happening with the combination of our data and these new AI tools. It enhances and speeds up the ability to extract out value for everyone and you know we've seen a few kinds of use case areas like in defense and intelligence searching for

spy balloons or in disaster response and civil applications like during building damage assessment. You know, it's a wide variety of areas of this, but your specific question about it, I just point out something I mentioned a number of times, AI without data.

Not useful you have to train it on data. So firstly planet has a massive stack of data it's a treasure trove for these AI models and secondly we have the ongoing daily scan which is how companies can can or and governments can continue to monitor things and that's all because this unique daily scan 2,400

of where a lot of these top AI companies are coming to us, because they know that the AI without the data sets is really not nearly valuable, but once they combine it with a data set like ours, that puts us in a powerful position to do these sort of licensing terms. And so far, the terms have been pretty favorable to us because of that recognition, I'd say.

Great, thank you very much. Does that make sense? I didn't avoid. Yes, thanks. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question is from Edison Yu with Deutsche Bank. You may proceed.

Thanks for taking the questions. First, just one follow-up. I think you mentioned that you're going to maintain the EBITDA target. Can you just go over kind of how you plan to offset the lower growth?

Yes, as I mentioned, we've been looking at the expense growth plans and headcount growth plans that we had for the year and obviously scaling this back and making sure that they're focused on the highest ROI areas. So there are a number of areas, as we've referenced multiple times, where we're seeing strong demand signals, so we don't want to back away from investments behind that.

back expense growth on the year, such that our exit run rate is north of $35 million less than where we had expected to be.

I just want to ask quickly about Synergize. I know you mentioned it's a pretty nominally low, but I'm wondering if you can give any insights on how fast it's growing. Obviously, we saw at the conference a lot of customers use it. Maybe the growth trajectory and an opportunity that that brings forward.

Yeah, we see it as being very valuable add-on to almost every one of our customer relationships. It is the front end that helps people to ease use of our data, especially on the small long tail of small clients, as I mentioned that it helps automate a lot of that segment, which is costly in a sense.

but also the big deals as well. I mean, a number of the partnerships we're talking about in Europe , driven by the sustainability pieces, like sustainable agriculture regulation, demands countries track how they're doing on these sustainable ag practices and monitoring those and report on those. And they have some great automated tools that sit on top of our data to enable that. So it's great. And overall...

Thank you, Mr. Yu.

Our next question is from the line of Greg Mesniok with West Park. You may proceed. Yes, thank you for taking my question. I wanted to circle back to the OPEX right sizing that you've announced.

So focusing more specifically on the SG&A line, what areas...

Do you see most likely to be impacted if you could just kind of give us some more granularity on that? Yeah, I think as Will referenced as we're looking at how we're focusing our go-to-market activities.

The larger customers have been an area of higher ROI for us and smaller customers where we can deploy more automation and have a much lighter touch model is obviously much more cost effective on multiple fronts. So really as we're thinking about our support model.

and leveraging our partner base. That enables us to reduce the amount of people internally that we're putting against supporting the longer tail of customers and really relying on partners as well as automation in our platform to address that side of the business. So that's an example of how we're thinking about really focusing our go-to-market motion. Thank you for that. And my follow-up is...

sets to that headwind from some tailwinds associated with presumably a more favorable

product mix, you know, that's more heavily focused on software relating to analytics.

As you may remember, our data subscription model is such that our direct margins on our core products are already quite high, in the mid-90s as it is. We are now in the mid-90s as the core products are already quite high, in the mid-90s as it is.

So our primary expenses relate to our hosting costs, which are predictable, and then the depreciation of the satellites.

as we use more. So there's not, so what you're saying is this, I guess what you're saying is there's not much of a tailwind left there given the high margin profile already you're seeing. I guess what I'd say is from a gross margin perspective, revenue for us is a tailwind because, you know, the direct margins are so high.

And as we increase our share of wallet with customers by selling more analytics, that is a tailwind because that revenue is also very high-risk margin. Thank you. Thank you.

Our last question will be from the line of Josh Sullivan with the Benchmark Company. You may proceed. You may proceed.

Our last question will be from the line of Josh Sullivan with the Benchmark Company. You may proceed. Good afternoon.

Hey Josh. Given where macros, you know, sales cycles that you guys are seeing capital markets are currently, do you think we see a consolidation cycle in space AI and NEO and does Planet have an appetite to be that consolidator? Well we've already talked about the fact that we think of Planet as a natural consolidator in the...

more as a data business than a satellite business. And as a data business, you know, they tend to be very powerful when they happen. They're more rare, but they have extremely high lock-in and high...hard to displace when they come about. And so I think it is a natural...

a situation for consolidation and yes, we think that we're good and in a position of strength to do that in time. Just one question on the solar intensity impact of the two satellites. Yeah. Why wouldn't this have a broader impact on the consolidation and maybe what's the probability we see additional satellites needing accelerated depreciation?

the solar activity is still high, is there still a risk that we might see other satellites in the console impacted by this dynamic? Well no, now we've taken it into account the difference that this is now made so we can forecast that but but yeah it is an unusual situation and but remember that our fleet is highly redundant and

One of the reasons that we are able to survive these sort of situations We have a lot of redundancy in our fleet and then and then also we continue to make Operational improvements in that so we're not not worried about being able to continue to provide to our customers And and so yeah, we feel good about the ability to continue through this Okay, thank you for the time

that we are able to survive these sort of situations. We have a lot of redundancy in our fleet, and then also we continue to make operational improvements in that. So we're not worried about being able to continue to provide to our customers. And so, yeah, we feel good about the ability to continue through this. Okay, thank you for the time. Thank you. No worries.

Thank you, Mr. Sullivan. That is all the time we have for the question and answer session. So I will now turn the call back over to Will Marshall, co-founder and CEO , for any further remarks. Just to summarize, we've said that we delivered pretty solid Q1 results and had our strongest pipeline generation quarter in the company's history.

Brookings did come in a bit lighter than we expected in the last, in recent weeks, and so we're responding by changing our spending plans and prioritizing random investments around key customers and high ROI activities, and as a result, maintain our profitability guidelines.

And overall, I'd say our conviction remains high, and the scale of the opportunity is high, backed by the tailwinds that we've seen in sustainability, digital transformation, peace and security, and now as a further catalyst to AI. Thanks all for joining the call.

That concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines. Thanks to AI. Thanks all for joining the call.