Q1 2024 Dollarama Inc. Earnings Call
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Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the Dollarama Fiscal 2024 First Quarter Results Conference call.
Speaker 3: Neil Rossi, President and CEO , and JP Towner, CFO , will make a short presentation followed by a question and answer period open exclusively to financial analysts.
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Speaker 3: whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Speaker 3: I would now like to turn the conference call over to Neil Rossi. Please go ahead Mr. Rossi.
Speaker 4: Thank you operator and good morning everyone. This morning we announced outstanding first quarter results including a 17% increase in same store sales and a 29% increase in diluted earnings per share to $0.63.
Speaker 4: Clearly Canadians from all walks of life are still responding positively to our compelling value proposition and affordable product mix.
Speaker 4: While we continue to experience...
Speaker 4: strong demand for consumables in the context of persistent inflationary pressures, we are also seeing strength across our seasonal and general merchandise categories.
Speaker 4: I am particularly pleased with the performance of our Easter season this year, demonstrating our strong fundamentals and the fact that the full mix is continuing to drive traffic to our stores.
Speaker 4: Our entire organization is delivering on our value promise, whether that value promise comes from pricing, merchandising, or assortment breath.
Speaker 4: With our inventory rebuilt mostly behind us, I am pleased with our product offering across our price points and with our now solid and stock and in store inventory levels.
Speaker 4: with the goal of increasing proximity to our customers.
Speaker 4: Q1 was a particularly active quarter on the real estate front with the opening of 21 net news stores.
Speaker 4: This reflects a concerted effort by our real estate and operations teams to front load net new store openings this year.
Speaker 4: The strategy is to take some of the pressure off the last quarter of the year, which is always our busiest quarter.
Speaker 4: Note that the acceleration in the net new store openings in Q1 has no impact on our annual target which remains between 60 and 70 net new stores by fiscal year end.
Speaker 4: Among those 21 stores in Q1 was our 1500 store in Canada.
Speaker 4: which opened in the Rockland Center here in Montreal this past April .
Speaker 4: milestone we were pleased to reach in our hometown and celebrate as a team.
Speaker 4: Hats off to our real estate, field, and operations teams for their discipline execution on our long-term growth plans of reaching 2000 stores across Canada by 2031. Today about 85% of Canadians live within 10 kilometers of a dollar on the store, which represents no small feat into something we are very proud of. The team at Dollar City also continues to execute on their long-term growth plans in the four Latin countries where they operate.
Speaker 4: In the first quarter of this year, eight net new stores were opened, bringing their total store count to 448.
Speaker 4: It's been just over two years since dollars city launched its first store in Peru. With 24 stores in counting in that country, we are very pleased with how this new market is performing and with the team's execution.
Speaker 4: Starting to ESG, we published our latest comprehensive annual ESG report this morning.
Speaker 4: Outlining our evolving ESG strategy as well as our progress against goals.
Speaker 4: Our commitment to managing our business responsibly, we are further building our organizational ESG capacities and integrating ESG into our daily decision making.
Speaker 4: Last year we created an ESG function and earlier this year we established an ESG steering committee responsible for the advancement of our ESG strategy across the organization.
Speaker 4: We continue to move our climate strategy forward, including the introduction of our first generation GHG intensity reduction goal for scope 1 and 2 emissions last year.
Speaker 4: We are proud to have taken this initial step and of the progress made year over year. We are now further advancing our climate roadmap and alignment with CCFD by focusing our attention on identifying and tracking relevant scope three emissions. We are now further advancing our climate roadmap and alignment with CCFD by focusing our attention on identifying and tracking relevant scope three emissions.
Speaker 4: Across our ESG pillars, our operations, our people, our products and customers, our supply chain and our governance, we will continue to implement goals and initiatives that are meaningful and actionable.
Speaker 4: and that enable us to deliver on our value promise to our customers and our shareholders. JP, over to you to review our Q1 financial results in more detail.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Neil, and good morning, everyone. As expected, we continue to benefit from sustained demand for affordable everyday items during the first quarter of fiscal 2024.
Speaker 5: This translated into strong demand in process of three product segments and the same store sales above 17% as mentioned by NEO.
Speaker 5: SSS was comprised of a strong 15% increase in traffic and a 1.4% increase in average basket size.
Speaker 5: This quarter, we also maintain our industry leading gross margin, margin, which was 42.2% of sales compared to 42.1% in the same quarter last year. Q1 represented the tail end of supply chain related cost pressures on our margin with higher logistics costs.
Speaker 5: and saw continued product mix pressure offset by lower ocean freight costs.
Speaker 5: For its part, SG&A also remained relatively flat over a year at 15.1% of sales compared to 15% last year.
Speaker 5: Our strong financial performance has enabled us to absorb continued wage pressures to date with additional minimum wage increases in the pipeline and reflected in our annual guidance.
Speaker 5: While the persistent tight supply in the labor market that has impacted the entire industry remains a concern, it has not resulted in any significant disruptions to our operations.
Speaker 5: Our 50.1% share of Dollar City's net earnings grew by 50% to $13.1 million compared to $8.7 million for the same period last year, reflecting the ongoing strong financial and operational performance of Dollar City.
Speaker 5: with an acceleration in same-store sales, along with active gross margin and SG&A management, and a higher equity pickup from VAR City.
Speaker 5: EBITDA increased by over 22% to $366 million, representing 28.3% of sales. Net earnings were $180 million or $0.63 per share, representing a 29% increase year over year.
Speaker 5: Finally, once again, inventory remained stable sequentially this quarter at 938 million as at April 30th, 2023.
Speaker 5: compared to 957 million as at the end of January .
Speaker 5: In light of our Q1 performance, we are maintaining our fiscal 24 guidance ranges, published this past March.
Speaker 5: While we acknowledge that there may potentially be some upside to our same-store sales guidance,
Speaker 5: We prefer to remain conservative of this point and wait to see how the consumer laps last year's very strong Q2SS performance.
Speaker 5: That being said, so far in Q2, SSS cadence is jelly in line with Q1s to your stack SSS.
Speaker 5: On the capital allocation front, the board approved a quarterly dividend of $0.0708 per share. While there were no buybacks in Q1, primarily due to higher cap-backs with a large number of net new stores, combined with the racking of our Labao warehouse and the forthcoming closing of our previously announced industrial property.
Speaker 5: and returning capital to shareholders. We intend to continue to allocate our excess free cash flows towards the repurchase of shares through our NCIB.
Speaker 5: In conclusion, we continue to execute well from an operational and financial standpoint in what remains a complex environment.
Speaker 5: As always, we are focused on maintaining our value promise to our customers and maximizing long-term value for our shareholders.
Speaker 5: That concludes our formal remarks. I'll turn it over to the operator for the Q&A.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: We thank you for your patience. The first question is from Irene Natell from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead, your line is open. Good morning everyone. Clearly consumer demand remains extremely robust.
Speaker 3: I think Neil mentioned something about Easter. Can you talk about what you're seeing from a category demand perspective both for Q1 and Q2 to date now that the weather has turned, although not so much this week, and also in terms of the price point.
Speaker 6: Please.
Speaker 4: We're starting to get some traction Irene on summer, although as you said, it's unseasonably chilly still in many parts of the country, along with other natural disasters, unfortunately, which are challenging many areas of the country, which is.
Speaker 4: challenge that none of us needed.
Speaker 4: The customer has started to move towards our summer offering. We had a good Easter as mentioned. And so there's a move, slight move away from the consumables and backs a little bit towards the traditional mix.
Speaker 4: As far as price points, again, no change there. We still have the same balanced purchasing and sourcing approach to having all the price points available for all the categories of goods, and the consumer continues to partake in all of those price points with no real move in any specific price point.
Speaker 3: That's really helpful, just a couple of follow-ups, please. First, I seem to remember that refreshes were below normal targeted levels for the last couple of years because of some of the difficulties in China. How should we be thinking about now that China has opened again, the offering and maybe more of the treasure hunt.
Speaker 4: There's nothing extreme happening on that front. We're optimistic that the next year or two should help bring things back to normal on that side. But for the moment, it's a slight increase, not a huge increase.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. And then just finally, on the whole St. St. Stor sales guidance.
Speaker 3: So if we take Q1 as a whole, Q1, and we sort of don't change the overall gardens for the year, it implies same-store sales in the 1 to I think 2.25%, 2.5% range in subsequent quarters. And with what JP just said about Q2 to date same-store sales, we're probably running say 10%, 11%.
Speaker 7: So how should we be thinking about all of that?
Speaker 5: So Irene, the way to think about this is similar to last year. We prefer to be thoughtful about our guidance. We'll likely, if all things remain equal, provide an update to the street in September .
Speaker 5: But we want to see how the next few months unfold. As you mentioned, Q2 today, we're seeing the same trends as what we've seen in Q1. So it's just to be thoughtful about our guidance.
Speaker 3: Understood. Thank you very much. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Thank you. The next question is from Chris Lee from Desjardins. All day, please go ahead, your line is open.
Speaker 4: All right, good morning, everyone. Maybe you started with a question on private label. I know penetration is already very high. I think I close to around 70%. But just curious to see if you see a room in certain categories for further increase in private label penetration, especially in this environment.
Speaker 4: I don't think any category will increase in private label, honestly. I think we'll continue to focus on putting our best foot forward from an art and branding perspective, continue to focus on ESG, reducing packaging where it makes sense.
Speaker 4: We're converting packaging to something that's more recyclable, more user-friendly, but an actual penetration of private label I don't see any change. Okay, that's helpful. And then maybe a question on how we should think about unit as well.
Speaker 4: You know, average basket was up 1.4%, but traffic was up very high at 15%. Does any of the customers are effectively frequenting your stores a lot more, but perhaps buying less each time, such that your overall uniform still growing?
Speaker 5: There is a mix of patterns. Of course, the key element is what we saw during COVID was basket consolidation. So we had less FDA signs, fewer COVID reel really.
Speaker 5: Fewer trips in bigger baskets were expecting the basket to deconsolidate and have traffic increase. What effectively happened and is happening is we're seeing traction on traffic size while the basket size is slightly increasing. So we're happy with the outcome on both fronts.
Speaker 8: Okay, that's great. And my last question is maybe on shrink. I know some of your US dollar peers have called out shrink as having a bit of an outsized impact on their margin. Just curious to see how is shrink impacting your business these days? Thank you.
A shrink has been increasing for the past four quarters and it's embedded in our guidance.
Okay, great. Thanks and all the best. Thanks Chris. Thank you. The next question is from Tammy Chen from BMO, Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Thanks, good morning. Neil and JP, I just want to go back again to your pump on the traffic side. It's just so strong, especially last year's quarter which was already strong and so we know at a high level there is the consumer trade down. That's the big factor. But I'm just wondering, can you talk...
It's broad-based, so when you look at our category performance, we're seeing those trends as Neil mentioned across our categories. So there's nothing all-release specific to point out. I just think and we believe it's...
our value proposition and our strategy just playing out. So nothing that's overly newsworthy in terms of specific elements, I just...
think it's broadly speaking, a general performance on many fronts.
Okay, got it. And I'm just curious.
You know, inflation is starting to decelerate in Canada here. I'll be it very slowly, but it is starting to decelerate. Though it sounds like at least so far in fiscal Q2, where your compass trending, that at the margin, you're not really seeing.
that have a change in traffic trends or other consumer behaviors in your stores that it's still quite strong and not the trade down is still continuing would you say that fair to say or at the margin are you seeing a little bit of change because this high inflationary environment is starting to ease a little bit.
I have to consider many factors, despite the inflationary environment. There's wage growth. There's the interest rate environment. So there's many economic factors over and above just inflation to consider when you look at consumer behavior. And so what we've experienced so far is
All those factors at play and we can't just isolate one factor and drive conclusions from that factor.
So, but your statement is right from Q2 to date perspective.
Okay, got it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The next question is from George Dumé from Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Yeah, good morning JP and Neil. Thanks for taking my questions. JP, can you help us dissect the gross margin performance in the quarter?
the extent of the negative mixed impacts, and maybe the lower product and freight costs, and maybe how should we think of the cadence of the improvement as the year goes on.
So in Q1 we had the benefit of lower container costs, so what we call ocean freight costs.
That was offset by a higher logistics cost and when we talk about logistics costs we're thinking about our Canadian supply chain and there was some mixed impact so when you put it all together it drove flat-ish gross margin year over year.
When we think about the rest of the year and we think about our guidance, the assumptions are that the lower container costs will continue in terms of mix. It will depend on consumer demand and it's going to be tightly related to our SSS performance. So that one is harder to assess at this point.
but usually from a GM dollar and a knee-but-duck perspective, it's a net positive.
Okay thanks for that and Neil can you maybe help us think about maybe the second half of the year in terms of consumable volumes.
to what extent maybe you expect them to grow and consumers have been steadily growing.
2010, I guess in good end bad times. So if you're looking at the business five years out, in this category be it 50, 55%, any color you can provide there.
I would love to provide you with color because it would mean that I'm much smarter than I actually am. Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue what's going to happen in the future, but I can tell you that it's pretty stable the last...
month or so and we're hoping it continues in that direction. Okay, thanks. Last one from me on dollar city, the contribution margin came in a little bit higher than expectations. Can you maybe talk a little bit about the margins of that business, how they perform, V or V or any color, maybe they can help us understand what drove that delta.
Yeah, so there's so there's so much of puts and takes because you're looking at the net income margin. We will not go into details of the dollar city margin profile. But I'd say that overall when you think about our city and its performance, a lot of the trends that we're seeing in Canada would be applicable to our So we can't discuss our fair plan for my products.
Okay great, thanks guys. Greg Warder. Thank you. Thank you. The next question is from Brian Morrison from TD Securities. Please go ahead, your line is open.
Okay, thanks very much. Good morning, JP. Good morning, Neil. So I appreciate your store account, the front end loading comment, Neil. Last time you did this, so you opened 89 stores. So I just wonder, I know store openings are planned some time ago, but was the thought here to take possession of some planned openings early just due to the strong traffic levels? And should we now think the high end of your range is more reasonable and maybe JP could provide us the planned openings by quarter to the quarter?
the real estate landlord market and capable of executing on something we've wanted to do for a decade which is to front load at the beginning of the year and this is the first time we've achieved that goal because it's
It's very challenging. Every year it's our goal and every year, you know, things happen, so to speak, that they call us and say, oh, we can't deliver this or we can't deliver that. So our goal as of two years ago was really to put the team's efforts towards getting to this spot. And I'm super proud of that.
of the team and their ability to line up the timing of these things to be in a schedule that's much easier for our team to execute and much less stress on our off team during the fourth quarter, which is always extremely challenging. And I'm also happy to say that
the pipeline seems to be lined up nicely to be able to execute you know, the same concept going forward. It really doesn't have anything to do with a change in number, it has to do with a change in timing. JP? On the quality front, of course it means that usually in the past you would see a change in timing.
It depends on many factors, but we're still very comfortable with our guidance.
So Neil, what is the key change that enabled you to open these stores early this year?
Truthfully, I would tell you it's partially the real estate landscape and mostly our team is just better than it's ever been before and more aligned with the people they deal with.
It's really a very challenging thing, particularly of course during the three years of COVID. But even before COVID, I would tell you before COVID, it was a work in progress getting the team where we wanted to be and it had more to do with the team just having a hard time getting alignment and then COVID made it difficult for everybody.
of confectionary food drinks. Is the growth really across the entire consumer board or when you dive down, is it particularly food that stands out?
No, it's really across all of it. If it was food we would tell you, but no, it's across all of it. And the concept of consumables is extremely subjective. Is it cleaning? Is it batteries? What is it? Where does it end? Be a person who Billy
And since there's not a hard definition of that accepted across the planet, within the subset of what we call consumable, it's pretty much across the board. Okay, I guess last question if I can. Just more directly to Irene's question, just trying to understand the potential conservatism that you mentioned in your comment earlier. If Q2 remains constant to current levels, is the expectation of negative?
H2, same source sales growth, is that potentially reasonable in your view?
Sorry, Brian , I missed the first part of your question.
I'm just saying I want to understand the degree of conservatism, JP. It looks like you're going to have negative same-store sales growth based on your same-store sales growth guidance to date. So I'm wondering if that's potentially reasonable in your view just based on your comment that there's a degree of conservatism in here. As I mentioned, we'll see how the next few months unfold so far in Q2.
the trends that we've seen in Q1 are remaining stable and in line. So stay tuned for our guidance update if there's any in our Q2 results.
Thank you both for your comments.
from National Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Hi, thanks for taking my questions. You know it's been addressed several times on the call about possible upward pressure on same-source sales guidance.
I'm wondering if similar comments would apply to gross margin rate. Neil mentioned a bit of slowdown in consumables, continued strength in seasonal, possibly favorable operating leverage and all these factors seem to conspire favorably on gross margin. I'm hoping to get some perspective there. The Markdown Coordination Program for Bedroom Edwards College, a national Vega project,
Hi, Vishal. GP. We're very comfortable with our gross margin guidance range.
Moving on to the buyback, I know you've talked about it off the top and I may have missed it but I think you said you're looking to renew that buyback activity. What was the decision behind pausing the buyback?
I think last quarter management stated he was looking to run leverage a little bit lower than the threshold levels. Are you happy with where your leverage is right now? What levels should investors look for dollarama to target throughout this fiscal year?
Yeah, so in terms of the buyback, it was mostly a cash preservation strategy because we have, as you know, the upcoming land acquisition combined with higher cap packs from net new stores and in addition, we're racking our LaValle warehouse.
So there's many cash outflows. So that's the main reason. It combined with the fact that in Q1, we only have one month of buyback window compared to two months in the other quarters.
Our intent is to remain active on our buyback and if the market allows to play that capital in the second, third and fourth quarter of this year. So our cash balance should, all else being equal, revert back to more normalized historical levels.
In terms of the leverage as we mentioned in our last conference call the way we think about our buyback strategy is more about using our excess free cash flows to buy back our shares rather than targeting a specific leverage just given the cost of debt compared to the accretion numbers.
so um
So that's how we think about it.
Okay, and last quarter you can correct me if I'm wrong but I recall you saying we're looking to run leverage levels a little bit lower in part due to economic uncertainty. Does that thinking still prevail and if so what leverage should we, and I know you just gave me some caveats there, but is there any level, appropriate level lower that you would consider is responsible given your concerns about the backdrop?
I mean our objective is to maintain a balanced capital allocation strategy. The way to think about it is really we will be using our excess free cash flows to buy back our shares and then the leverage will be a function of that and our EBITDA growth.
Okay, and maybe just one last question here regarding the, you know, the, the.
transaction growth continues and you know augmenting the strong basket as well. Just wondering...
In that transaction growth, is that predominantly your existing customers shopping more with Dollarama or is it you're gaining new customers? Is there any skew one way or another that you would call out?
Honestly, it's a great question because JP's looking at me and I'm looking at JP and neither of us has the answer to your question. The truth is, it's coming from our existing, it's coming from some trade down, no doubt. Our goal and job is to ensure that wherever...
and getting more customers to come and experience the dollar and the shop. And that's what we remain focused on.
Thank you. The next question is from Karen Short from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead, your line is open.
Hey, thanks very much and good to talk to you. So a couple of questions. We'd respect to shrink. I guess I'm curious why that's not becoming a bigger issue. Obviously, a lot of retailers have talked about that and given significant dollar amounts on.
But to the extent that there may be the risk and potential for deflation, what would be the rule of thumb on comp?
percent comp decline as it relates to EBIT decline. I don't know if there's any numbers that you can put on that.
Yeah, in terms of inflation, deflation, and linking that to our comp and then our profitability.
mean it's a very subjective equation because if you look at our historical growth
we've seen phases of deflation, inflation, stackflation and we've had a range of usually very good SSS and profitability performance. So it's hard to make that linkage on your needs and stack value.
Other question which was around shrink. When we think about shrink, it's an important line item for us, but keep in mind that usually we have smaller square footage in our stores than some of our other competitors that you may be thinking about.
We also have cameras installed in a lot of our stores. It's an important line in our P&L as I mentioned earlier. It's a line that has been growing but it's embedded in our guidance and we're not surprised by anything because we saw that trend coming back in Q3 and Q4 so we baked it in our guidance numbers.
Okay, sorry, just one more question. Are you, and with respect to labor and wages, are you embedding within your guidance labor or...
increases or are you embedding that you're stable and you're where you actually need to be?
Also, we're embedding in our guidance. And I think we discussed it back in March, but we're embedding the current waste growth of the Canadian labor market to the best of our knowledge. So that's baked in our guidance as well.
Thank you. The next question is from Martin Landry from Steeple GMP. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Howya gettin on go-ooo?
You know, you are clearly getting market share against other retailers with your customer traffic up mid-teens. So as you mentioned earlier, your customers are trading down with you. And I was wondering what exactly do you do to ensure that you keep these trading
something that brings them back, trying to cash them out in an efficient way that doesn't cause any disruption. And overall we want them leaving thinking that the experience as a whole was great and that the value was great. And then lastly that when they get home they're completely satisfied with the goods that they bought and that our quality and our packaging and all the things we put you know the hours we pour into trying to make sure that you're satisfied when you actually use the product is the case. And so it's really a combination of
thousands of things that hopefully bring that person back. But you know, high level, those are the most important points.
And are you able to track or are you tracking new customers returning? No, we do not track new customers returning.
I'm wondering how does the retail environment look like?
You know increased promotional activity are you seeing some of your competitors reacting to your success? Just trying to see a little bit. What's what's going on out there that tech is given that you're a price follower trying to see you know if There's promotional activity that you may have to react to.
Well, our approach from day one has always been the day in day out lowest price in the market. We don't react to promotional activity, we never have, so when somebody's promoting often their price is better than ours. You know, not usually by a lot, but by some.
And we don't go chasing that price. We're not changing our price. If they're going to beat us on something that they've decided to have as a loss leader or to take terrible margins on, that's their business's decision. We're in the everyday low-priced business. So if you come in our stores at Back to School...
You're probably going to pay more for another hundred pack of loose leaf of Ruled white paper than you will you know walking into another retailer? That's giving it away at that time of the year But for the other eleven and a half months of the year were cheaper. You know so that's the approach. We've always taken
And I think our customers understand that and have come to decide that for the most part they like that approach. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.
and customers understand that and have come to decide that for the most part they like that approach. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. It's helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. There are no further questions registered at this time. The conference call has now ended. Please disconnect your lines at this time. And we thank you for your participation.