Q3 2023 Lindsay Corporation Earnings Call

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I would now like to turn the conference over to Randy Wood, President and Chief Executive Officer. Go ahead.

Thank you and good morning everyone. Welcome to our fiscal 2023 third quarter earnings call. With me today is Brian Ketchum, our Chief Financial Officer.

I'd like to start by looking at market conditions in North American irrigation where we're really seeing two themes playing off one another.

Firstly, market fundamentals remain strong and although net farm income is projected to decline versus last year, it's still well above historical averages and it will represent the third highest income level over the past 10 years.

Commodity prices have also seen support recently due to crop quality concerns caused by the drought. While some parts of the country have received much needed precipitation, we have seen drought spread across the Midwest, driving the USDA to announce earlier this month that 64 percent of the U.S.

Corn crop was currently impacted by drought.

This market tailwind has been partially offset by tepid customer sentiment that has been driven by inflation, interest rates, general economic uncertainty, and commodity prices still below last year's highs.

In our view, the short-term uncertainties have influenced customer behavior and caused an unexpected shift in seasonal order patterns.

While market feedback indicated quotation volume remained generally consistent with the prior year, our order volume was impacted by customers who have taken a more cautious wait-and-see approach for the near term. For us, this means some of the spring volume we anticipated will shift into the fall installation season.

Our operational focus, pricing discipline, and spending efficiencies in the quarter did allow us to expand operating margins and maintain business quality in spite of the deleveraging driven by lighter volumes.

Moving on to international irrigation.

We continue to see strong project demand connected to global food security and shifting climate patterns. We recently confirmed 250 project units in the Middle East, and there are also several additional large projects in the Europe , Middle East, and Africa region that are actively being designed and quoted.

Our global footprint, differentiated technology, and strong project experience position us to be confident in our ability to identify and win these competitive projects.

Brazil continues to be a strong market and we were pleased with customer interest at the recent AgriShow, which is a large selling show in the region.

This market will be further supported by an aggressive government financing program that was released this week for the upcoming season.

Total program funding for irrigation investments was increased approximately 25%, making over 2.3 billion reals available for irrigators. The interest rate on these loans was maintained at 10.5%, which makes them attractive options to support continued investment.

We were also honored to host a delegation from the Mato Grosso state in our global headquarters last month. This important growing region in Brazil has over 29.6 million acres of production, but less than 1.5% of that land is irrigated, representing a significant opportunity for development.

Irrigation also creates the potential to grow three crops per year which accelerates the payback of the irrigation investment. And as mentioned, we're confident in our strategic value add with growers and our ability to win competitive projects in this growth market. Turning to innovation and technology.

We were pleased to announce our partnership with PESL instruments in the corridor. In conjunction with our field net platform, growers will now be able to access PESL field monitoring systems including weather stations and soil moisture probes providing real-time insights into crop water needs.

Additionally, growers utilizing FieldNet Advisor will be able to utilize Pestle's field monitoring systems to enhance the predictive analytics provided by the platform.

Moving to infrastructure.

We continue to see positive mid and long-term market fundamentals driven by aging infrastructure and funding provided by the Infrastructure Investments and Jobs Act.

This funding will support incremental investments in roadway infrastructure, but like many other companies in this space, we're seeing delays in how quickly that funding is getting to the market.

We believe this funding will have more significant impact in the 2024 construction season with steady growth through 2025 and 2026.

Even with the IIJA delays, overall transportation construction contract awards leading into the spring have encouragingly increased over the prior year. This serves as a leading indicator for sales activity and continues to show signs of strengthening. The road zipper sales funnel remains steady and although we do not currently expect any large project will be delivered in our fourth quarter,

We do see incremental growth in our lease portfolio due to additional projects in new states. This should drive a stronger backlog going into fiscal year 24.

I'd now like to turn the call over to Brian to discuss our third quarter financial results. Brian .

Thank you, Randy. And good morning, everyone. Total revenues for the third quarter of fiscal 2023 were $164.6 million compared to $214.3 million in the same quarter last year.

Most of the decline in consolidated revenues came from the irrigation segment, as infrastructure revenues were down slightly compared to the prior year.

Operating income for the quarter was $27 million compared to $35.2 million in the same quarter last year.

Operating margin for the quarter was 16.4% of sales, consistent with the prior year quarter.

This solid operating margin performance was supported by gross margin improvement exhibited in both business segments, while operating expenses were comparable to the prior year.

Net earnings for the quarter were $16.9 million or $1.53 per diluted share, compared to net earnings of $25.1 million or $2.28 per diluted share in the prior year.

Lower net earnings resulted largely from lower operating income.

Earnings performance was also impacted by foreign currency transaction losses in the current year compared to gains in the prior year, and from a higher effective income tax rate compared to the prior year.

This increase in the effective tax rate reflected a greater proportion of earnings in higher-rate foreign jurisdictions primarily Brazil compared to the prior year.

Moving on to the irrigation segment performance for the quarter.

Irrigation segment revenues for the third quarter were $142.6 million, compared to $188.7 million in the same quarter last year.

North America irrigation revenues were $75 million compared to $96.2 million in the same quarter last year.

The decline in revenues resulted primarily from lower unit sales volumes, while average selling prices were comparable to the prior year.

Lower unit sales volumes resulted primarily from farmers delaying capital investment decisions for the reasons Randy cited earlier.

We believe this will result in farmers deferring purchases to later in the calendar year when the profitability of the current crop year becomes more apparent.

In the international irrigation markets, revenues were $67.5 million compared to $92.5 million in the same quarter last year.

This decrease resulted primarily from lower sales volumes in Brazil, Australia, Ukraine, and Russia compared to the prior year third quarter.

We expect sales volumes in Brazil to increase in the fourth quarter, supported by the new subsidized government financing program that Randy mentioned.

Total irrigation segment operating income for the third quarter was $30.7 million compared to $39.6 million in the same quarter last year.

Operating margin represented 21.6% of sales, marking an increase from 21.0% of sales in the prior year.

This increase in operating margin resulted from gross margin expansion driven by improved price realization and operating performance compared to the prior year.

Moving to the infrastructure segment.

Infrastructure segment revenues for the third quarter were $22 million compared to $25.6 million in the same quarter last year.

An increase in road zipper lease revenue was more than offset by lower road zipper project sales and lower sales of road safety products compared to the prior year.

Infrastructure segment operating income for the third quarter was $3.6 million compared to $3.8 million in the same quarter last year.

Operating margin for the quarter was 16.2% of sales, which increased from 14.8% of sales in the prior year.

This improved operating margin performance resulted from gross margin expansion, attributed to a more favorable margin mix of revenue, and from improved price realization compared to the prior year.

Turning to the balance sheet and liquidity.

Our balance sheet remains very solid and our total available liquidity at the end of the quarter was $194 million, with $144 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities, with an additional $50 million of undrawn capacity on our revolving credit facility.

Through solid operating performance and effective working capital management, we expect our improved free cash flow generation to continue for the balance of Fiscal 2023.

This stronger cash flow will be strategically beneficial as it will further enhance our ability to act opportunistically by investing in growth opportunities, creating meaningful value for our shareholders.

At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator to take your questions.

Thank you.

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At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Nathan Jones with Steeples. Please go ahead. Thanks for being with us.

Good morning, everyone.

I would like to start off on the commentary that you made about

Palmer uncertainty shifting demand from what's normally a spring selling season into the fall. I think that's

Maybe the first time ever I've heard an irrigation supplier talk about demand shifting into the fall, where you're typically seeing the crop growing and people aren't out there.

generally installing equipment on top of that crop. Can you just give us some more detail on the dynamics around that and why it is that you think that demand shifts into the fall? I would have thought that if it was shifting, it would have probably shifted into next spring.

Yeah, I can take that one, Nathan. It really comes down to what we've seen historically in terms of behavior, and you understand the seasonality of our business. We have installations going into spring, and then season of use through summer, fall harvest, and then we have a fall selling and installation season.

And we really still believe firmly in the fundamentals of the ag market. And if you look at net farm income, as we said in our comments, this is going to be the third highest net cash farm income in the last 10 years. There's going to be a lot of profits in the segment. And customers in the spring were active in quoting. They were looking at specific fields, specific machines.

They just weren't ready to pull the trigger and we've confirmed that over and over again, you know, our time with our time in the market. So our view is there's a lot of machines in the funnel, if you will, that are ready to go and as customers wrap up harvest and they finalize, you know, their tax situation.

there's going to be more of that fall to December 31st type of business that they're going to be willing to invest in. So to me, again, when this segment is profitable, they've proven historically they're going to make investments and an investment in an irrigation system is going to be a big part of that.

one of the best ROI investments they can make and our belief is that business will shift to the fall.

Okay, so what you're saying is not that it shifts to during the growing season, you're saying it shifts to after the harvest, so late fall, kind of late in your fiscal first quarter or early in your fiscal second quarter.

Exactly, it would probably be in that fiscal year first quarter for us. That'll be post-harvest installations, you got it. Got it, that makes more sense. And then my follow-up question was on gross margins. Obviously they've been pretty volatile over the last couple of years with all of the price changes in steel. They've started to settle down here a bit more into that low 30s area.

Is that an area where you think gross margins are sustainable? Does the drop in demand here in 23 give you any pause for concern on pricing that might put pressure on gross margin or just any more commentary you can give us around that?

Yeah, Nathan, this is Brian . Yeah, I think first of all on gross margin, it can vary quarter to quarter just due to the seasonality of the business and also can go up and down depending on the project activity. But I would say over the last few quarters as the inflationary environment has stabilized, I've had a lot of him

our gross margin. We've seen the enhancement as we've gotten the full price realization. I think this most recent quarter reflected more improvement actually in our international business as some of that price realization was a little bit later to occur than what we had seen in North America, but

If you look at it across the course of the year, I think gross margins in that 30 to 31 percent range would be expected. Again, depending on level of project activity in one quarter or another. If you had a project on the infrastructure side, obviously that would drive higher margins. A large project on the irrigation side might be somewhat dilutive.

Yeah, mix makes a difference. All right, thanks very much for taking my questions. I'll pass it on. Our next question comes from Brian Drab with William Blair. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Can I just follow on to Nathan's question there on gross margin just to be clear? The comment that you just made on gross margin, which I think you just said like 30.

would be able to maintain that. I think as we've come through this inflationary environment, we have, and with demand levels picking up, particularly internationally, we've seen the margins improve, gross margin and operating margin. Our expectation is that would carry forward into next year. Okay, and then just on margin still.

You mentioned that some of this demand could end up shifting into the early fall in the irrigation segment and Does that potentially help your capacity absorption in that period relative to

A normal year where margin could be supported in your fiscal 4th quarter as a result of that, or maybe early part of fiscal 24. Yeah, I think from a margin standpoint again with our 1st quarter starting in September .

you know, somewhat pre-harvest yet. There would be definitely some support if volumes are higher and more likely into the second quarter.

I guess the last question, just on the headline here, which is irrigation down more than 20% in the corridor. You've talked about some of the dynamics here, but could you go back to be really clear on some of the factors and maybe rank order them for me, just so I understand. What do you think is...

I think the headline is really about customer sentiment and profit certainty.

I think a lot of the customers, and I spent a lot of time with them this growing season, the sentiment is, you know what, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be profitable this year. I'm not sure how profitable, and I won't know more until I lock in more of my crop, I get closer to fall harvest and see what yields are going to do. You know this drought that's kind of moving into Iowa, Illinois, the eastern corn belt right now that provided some strong short-term

economic concern either. There's a lot of other noise in the market that I don't think contributes directly to the decision but it's more about that profitability and I'll wait until the fall when I know I've got my grain sold, I know what my financial position is going to be, I maybe even completed my taxes and know I've got some room to make investments. That's really what we believe we're seeing.

Okay, thanks very much.

Our next question comes from Ryan Connors with North Coast Research Partners. Please go ahead. Alright, thank you so much.

Good morning. Thanks for taking the call.

I had my question was on the issue of can you frame for us the issue of price?

relative to volume and to what extent they're a function of one another. In other words, you know, understand your desire to want to maintain the pricing discipline but do you think, you know, maintaining price as the environment gets more uncertain, you know, contributes to maybe some volume pressure or just carries your take on that.

Yeah, this is Brian . I would say in the market environment that we're in today, price has not been the main point of discussion. As Randy mentioned, a lot of the uncertainty in the environment.

lowering price isn't going to convince a farmer to buy right now. And so we've been disciplined on that. You know when you look at Brazil and the delay that we've seen there with the government transition, a lot of that was tied to waiting for this new financing program to be announced. Again, you know lowering price is not going to drive volume in that situation. They're going to wait until they know what the...

financing program is all about because it's you know a lot of the purchases are highly dependent on that so in this environment You know it's not been a price

environment that's going to drive additional volume. So we've been disciplined on maintaining our prices. I think there, you know, another thing that could contribute to the wait and see approach is just, you know, maybe prices will fall in in, you know, if steel costs soften, but that's not our view today either as we've seen.

the steel mills really be disciplined on their capacity capacity and so we're not expecting any precipitous drop in steel costs going forward either.

Got it. Okay. And then I take from that, Brian , that you're not aware of any others that have not taken the same approach to maintain discipline on pricing. In other words, if that's not going to be an effective strategy, I assume the market's been...

Yeah, no, that's actually in terms of that. Yeah, we're not getting any feedback from our dealers or regional sales people that we're losing, you know, orders based on price.

We obviously would have the ability to respond if that were the case, but that's not been the case. Got it. Okay. Then my other one just was a quick one on infrastructure. Okay.

You know is especially the leasing revenue again, you know sort of outpacing the actual product sales is leasing just the future

for Road Zipper now? Is that just the model that seems to be really gaining traction with more customers or is that more of a, you know, is that something that will ebb and flow going forward?

Hey Ryan, this is Randy. I'll take that one. And there is going to be some ebb and flow. And we've really had a focused effort on lease because lease can be a little more predictable in terms of revenue stream. And when we work on those large sales projects for permanent installation on a bridge, like Golden Gate as an example, there's a pretty long gestation period there. But leasing is really connected to the construction season.

that's gonna come every summer in markets where we can start to develop those leasing programs. So I think in terms of revenue mix, we're going to see more opportunities and growth in that lease funnel. It's been a very specific area of strategic focus for us and we do expect that to continue growing. But again, quarter to quarter, period to period, we could see more of that mix one way or the other depending on what's exiting the funnel at any given time. But leasing should certainly make it.

mentioned again about the investment opportunity and the capital position and just kind of given the current environment, is that creating maybe more opportunity as far as sellers and buyers kind of getting closer to pricing kind of levels or we're still in the earlier stages of just...

looking at the landscape of what's out there.

This is Brian , I'll take that. You know, I don't think it's having necessarily an impact on valuations or pricing. You know, we've indicated before, we see a lot of opportunities in this environment just coming off of a couple of strong years in the ag market and where we're focused on...

is in the area of technology and areas that we can continue to build on our capabilities with our technology and increase market penetration of our technology. So, the increased level of focus that we've put on it with having Brian Magnusson move into a full-time role in this area.

I think that's what creates optimism from our standpoint that we'll see some...

activity in that area. Great, thanks so much. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then 1 at this time.

Our next question comes from Brett Kearney with Gebelli Funds. Please go ahead.

Hi guys, good morning, thanks for taking the question. Good morning, Brett. You guys touched on this a bit already, but just curious, you know, the latest update on how the drought conditions, particularly in North America, are kind of impacting and your expectations going forward, you know, customers thinking.

opportunities, I guess on that scale of it's an opportunity, incremental opportunity for Lindsay versus getting to the level where potentially too severe going forward.

Sure, sure, I'll take that one. This is Randy. If you look at the drought maps, you really see, you know, eastern Nebraska, Kansas just lit up with extreme drought. There's pockets in Iowa and heading now into Illinois, Indiana. And, you know, we don't have a large installed base in that eastern Corn Belt. It's a market that, you know, traditionally gets...

You know you've been able to water when you needed it, now you've got good price support. So in general, what we're seeing now in terms of drought is, in our view, going to be supportive for the business because it's going to be supportive of price. I don't know, in my view, that I would predict that Eastern Corn Belt market heats up for us. We did see some of that business back in that 12, 13 period during that historic drought in that part of the world. I'm not sure that it's going to get severe enough that it'll drive results in the short term, but it's something that we were getting over by it.

I correlate it back to strong commodity prices. Irrigators are going to have strong yields. That combination is going to prop up farm income and we feel could be very supportive for the business.

Excellent. And maybe if I could just sneak in one additional one on the infrastructure side. Yeah, definitely have heard from a number of other folks on kind of the various constraints that, you know, transportation projects have had kind of moving forward.

I know you guys interact at a few levels with, you know, states, departments, transportation. So just curious kind of, you know, the data points you're hearing and the feedback, whether it's labor or, you know, construction crews.

materials or kind of what some of the major bottlenecks on the road safety products are. Yeah, I think the ones you mentioned we've heard about, you know, inflation early on really impacted project flow and some projects had to get recoded and rebid because the cost they were quoted under had moved due to inflationary concerns. Access to labor, access to equipment, we've heard both.

of consistent stories working with you know listening to the Association of Equipment Manufacturers, AED, those organizations. This does appear to be an industry phenomenon but the good news is and we'll talk a lot about you know any additional funding is supportive for strong markets and we're okay being being patient and we do see again some

I'm Bill Baldwin with Baldwin Anthony Securities. Please go ahead.

Yes, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. Initially I was going to see what you're thinking now about the level of capital expenditures here in 23.

if you can, what's kind of the nature of the projects that are being focused on

Yeah Bill, this is Brian . You know, for the, for 2023 we're probably going to end up in that $15 to $20 million range. I think we've been looking across our manufacturing footprint to, you know, look at where we can...

productivity type investments. You know you look at a market like Brazil and our facility in Turkey where there could be a need for additional capacity expansion. But I would say as we go into 2024, the level of capex could pick up as we look at ways to continue to improve.

our overall efficiency and...

But, you know, this year we should end up in that $15 to $20 million range. Okay, thank you. On the infrastructure side...

I know you've gone into this previously, but it's been a while since I've heard any commentary on it. Can you kind of give us a little bit of overview or specifics on where the project road zippers primarily fit into the infrastructure programs?

Are those into the early design of transportation systems where they're going to be used on a permanent continuous basis?

or exactly what is the nature of the primary usage on buying the road zippers.

Yeah, no, that's a great question because Road Zipper can be used in a variety of different ways. You know, we talked about the leasing being up and that's generally going to be used during a construction program. It's a way that, you know, construction programs can be facilitated, provides worker safety during the project. So we're seeing an uptick in that.

You know, we'll also see opportunities as more substantial projects get planned with, you know, expanding roadways. And especially going in and out of a city where you've got the flow traffic. You could use Road Zipper and a permanent installation to provide flexible lanes.

you know, that's an option. And then, you know, the other one has been solving existing congestion issues, and the best example is, you know, on a bridge that's going into a city. So those are, you know, a few examples, and this is a global solution. You know, we've had success in various countries around the world and continue to see opportunities.

get real zipper design into this.

into the project itself. Yeah, that was really part of that shift left strategy we implemented three years ago or so. It was really getting a seat at the table so that we could explain how Road Zipper can be used in a variety of different applications. Is that working well? Is that working for you?

Yeah, we're definitely seeing some traction from that. Super. Okay, very good. And lastly, just kind of a.

Can you provide any insight into the Delta on the year over year on Russia and Ukraine as far as revenue decline?

How much of the revenue decline came out of those two areas? We've talked about it in the last couple of quarters. In the third quarter last year we completed the backlog of orders that we had. If you look at it on a year to date basis through the first three quarters, it's...

It's probably approaching $20 million. Thank you very much. Thanks, Bill. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star, then 1 at this time.

I would like to turn the conference back over to Randi Wood for any closing remarks.

Great, and thank you for your interest and participation in today's conference call. As mentioned, we're pleased with the underlying fundamentals of our irrigation segment. Although the spring season did not materialize as projected, our business continues to demonstrate resiliency as shown by our strong operating margins during the quarter. International project interest remains high, and we're actively quoting several of these opportunities.

funding is released to the market, we believe we're well positioned to capitalize on market growth. This concludes our third quarter earnings call. We look forward to updating you on our continued progress at the end of our fiscal year. Thanks for joining us.

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Thank you for attending today's presentation.

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