Q2 2023 Dolphin Entertainment Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome to Dolphin Entertainment's second quarter 2023 earnings call. At this time, all participants are on in listen only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad.
Speaker 2: Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, James Carbonara Investor Relations. You may begin.
Speaker 3: Thank you, operator. And once again, welcome to Dolphin Entertainment, second quarter, 2023 Earning School. With me on the call, our bill will be out, Chief Executive Officer and Mayor Tena Grini, Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker 3: I'd like to begin the call by reading the Safe Harbor statement.
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Speaker 3: contained in subsequent FOD reports on Form 10Q, as well as in other reports that the company files from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
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Speaker 3: Now I'd like to turn the call over to Bill O'Downe. Chief Executive Officer of the Health and Entertainment. Bill, please proceed.
Speaker 4: Thanks James and hi everyone and good afternoon. And thank you for joining us today. As always, we'll start with a review of some financial and operating highlights.
Speaker 4: followed by a full financial review and then open it up for Q&A.
Speaker 4: So from a financial highlights perspective, revenue hit an all time high for Q2 of $11 million. This result marks our second highest quarterly revenue performance in the company's history in any quarter, coming incredibly close to our record best $11.1 million in Q4 last year.
Speaker 4: without the benefit of the holiday seasonality that strengthens our business every year.
Speaker 4: So we're very, very proud of the revenue results as quarter on the operating line also. When you back out non cash charges, we improved our, we improved over Q1, excuse me, by $1.3 million to an operating loss less non cash charges of less than $400,000. $1.
Speaker 4: This momentum of greater than $1.3 million improvement in operating results quarter over quarter sets us up nicely as we enter into the historically stronger second half of the year.
Speaker 4: Furthermore, we are very pleased with the strength of our balance sheet. We have over $7 million of unrestricted cash on hand, and we have paid out the last of our acquisition earnouts. Thereby removing the final contingent consideration liabilities that have been on our books.
Speaker 4: since we made our first acquisition in 2017. That's another significant milestone for us here. Six years later, all urnouts have been paid and no more contingent consideration on our balance sheet.
Speaker 4: with respect to the non-cast charges.
Speaker 4: In addition to the normal depreciation and amortization, we take every quarter, primarily as we amortize over several years the intangible assets we receive via our acquisitions.
Speaker 4: We also took a one time, a six and a half million non-cash impairment against our goodwill discordor, and recognition of our stock price dropped during the fourth quarter of last year, and the lack of market recovery and our stock price during the first half of this year.
Speaker 4: This one time non-cash impairment allows us to reset and realign our market capitalization with our book value prior to moving into our strongest quarters of the year. And before we announce the exciting catalyst, we expect to share in the coming weeks.
Speaker 4: Again, it's worth repeating. This entire expense is both one time and non-cache.
Speaker 4: and we're happy to have taken it now.
Speaker 4: Looking ahead, we expect a strong second half to the year, delivering strong double digit annual revenue growth. We also expect to report positive operating income in the back half of the year and going forward.
Speaker 4: Once non-cash items are excluded, as the strong improvement in operating results of more than $1.3 million from Q1 to Q2 would indicate. Again, we expect to report positive operating income in the back half of the year and going forward once non-cash items are excluded.
Speaker 4: We believe that our second half of the year will also benefit from the fact that none of Q2's dolphin film sale of featured documentary, The Blue Angels, to Amazon Studios, via our multi-year co-production partnership with IMAX, with IMAX, excuse me, none was actually recognized in Q2.
Speaker 4: but it's expected to start being recognized in the second half of this year. Revenue from that transaction?
Speaker 4: between the second half of this year and the first half of next year is expected to bring dolphin over $3.5 million, which represents a better than 75% return on investment. And this result does not include any dolphin share revenues from ticket sales and IMAX theaters.
Speaker 4: Moreover, virtually all of our subsidiaries and especially our influencer marketing agencies, the social and social aid traditionally thrived in the latter part of the year through the seasonality.
Speaker 4: Thus, with a strong operating momentum created from Q1 to Q2, along with a strong cache position and the removal of all contingent considerations from our balance sheet, with the one-time non-cache goodwill impairment behind us, we feel we are best positioned for a very strong second after the year.
Speaker 4: which is a great segue into our operational updates. At the prestigious 2023 Confilm Festival, the world premiere of Martin Scorsese's killers of the Flower Moon was skillfully publicized by 42 West, special shout out to Scott Feinstein.
Speaker 4: Our film and television PR powerhouse firm also showcased multiple clients at the Tribeca Film Festival and proudly represented an unprecedented 13 clients at the renowned San Diego Comic Con and that does not include James Carbonara who went in Cognito as Rocket the Raccoon from Guardian City Galaxy.
Speaker 4: Moreover, the exceptional talents represented by 42 S received an impressive total of four nominations at the 76 Coney Awards.
Speaker 4: We'll have more to announce about 42F to the tremendous Emmy nominations they received. We'll have more to announce.
Speaker 4: Once we all get through the next couple of months. Turning to our award-winning consumer lifestyle and hospitality marketing communications agency, the door warmly welcomed a host of new clients into their fold, including, for those from New York, Carbone Fine Food. Thank you.
Speaker 4: City Pickle, which I'm very excited about, and the esteemed Emerald Legasi, along with his son, the skilled chef, Faiturn E.J. Legasi.
Speaker 4: Demonstrating their prowess, the door secured two exciting projects with world-renowned culinary virtuoso John George. These ventures encompass the tin building by John George and a forthcoming restaurant at the prestigious 425 Park Avenue in Manhattan, augmenting the doors the lustrous portfolio of culinary clients.
Speaker 4: Shifting gears to Dolphins industry leading music PR firm, Shore Fire had a tansful promoting sold out tours by Bruce Springsteen and Odessa, a number one dance hit by Kylie Minogue, and groundbreaking initiatives by music business leaders such as ASCAP.
Speaker 4: Wasserman music and Rhino records. And a crowning achievement for Short Fires clientele, Rihanna and Gittens won the well-deserved Pulitzer Prize in Music for her collaborative opera Omar, co-authored with the accomplished Michael Ables, known for his work on feature films Get Out and Notebook.
Speaker 4: And then for Dolphins' respective creative agency and video production boutique, viewpoints working Q2 and year-to-date includes productions for Fenway Park, Vigreds Hot Sauce, and PayPal.
Speaker 4: Rounding out the Supergroup talent from our Creator Agency's Be Social and Socialite were recently asked to join campaigns for leading brands including Mabeline, Steve Madden, Publetics, Tracem, Cajulers and Schims among dozens of others in Q2.
Speaker 4: Also, another special shout out since both agencies were named top talent managers for creators by Business Insider.
Speaker 4: And I'd say that's just the tip of the iceberg for two reasons.
Speaker 4: One, because the second half of the year is seasonally stronger for influencer marketing first. And second, because we've only had these two companies under the golf and umbrella for a short period of time. And we have big plans.
Speaker 4: And whereas we usually touch on brief highlights of what our operating companies, excuse me, did in the quarter, I'd really like to spend a little bit more time on B social and socialite. My goal is to try and paint a fuller picture of where we are and the massive opportunity ahead of us in the influencer marketing space, both immediately in the second half of this year and beyond.
Speaker 4: As mentioned on previous earnings calls, we will be merging the social and socialite in the near future, and this will be a big deal in the influencer marketing industry. We believe the combined entity will be the entertainment industry's leading influencer marketing firm to go along with our best in class PR firms, 42 West, Shore Fire and the Door.
Speaker 4: Together, the two agencies now have 50 employees and represent over 200 leading creator talent with millions and millions of collective followers on social media.
Speaker 4: Part of the reason that is so important is because the influencer marketing industry has experienced strong double digit cager over the past five years Increasing from global brands spend of less than two billion dollars in 2016 to estimates of more than fourteen billion dollars in 2022 According to Grandview Research
Speaker 4: That's more than 7X in six years. And it's not slowing down.
Speaker 4: With the combination of social item B social, we now expect that influencer marketing will represent 25% or more of our revenues in 2023. And because influencer marketing is absolutely one of the fastest growing segments in all of marketing, if not the fastest growing segment in all of marketing, we expect that percentage of our overall revenue to grow.
Speaker 4: in the coming years. Thus, we believe that influencer marketing is our biggest core business growth engine, not factoring in what dolphin ventures can bring us.
Speaker 4: Our influencer marketing agencies receive a commission, typically 20% on whatever our talent makes. And then if we run a campaign for a brand, we get 20% of whatever the budget is. So both our talent management and our brand services divisions have pretty healthy margins. And we will expand our roster and our services to match.
Speaker 4: Instagram focused beauty fashion and wellness categories.
Speaker 4: It feels to us that there is a very large opportunity to build a dominant bi-coastal influencer marketing agency across all entertainment verticals.
Speaker 4: We already have that in public relations with our best in class PR firms. We want to be the first to have that in influencer marketing too. We want to include athletes, NIL marketing for college athletes for example, is only two years old and it will continue to grow. We also believe in the strong potential of culinary influencers and teen influencers.
Speaker 4: this growing market, we are very excited that for the very first time we'll be selling the services of these two companies in combination going into the heavy selling season of September and the fourth quarter which obviously includes holidays. Now in this third quarter
Speaker 4: be on the lookout for big announcements in this area in the next few weeks, and well before we speak again in November . All right, that was a mouthful, but I wanted to share all of that so that you could understand the long-term opportunity as well as why we are so excited about the second half of this year, because we get to hit the ground running with these two companies in the September market. Now I'll turn to providing updates on some of our projects that we have dubbed Dolphin Ventures, where Dolphin and its shareholders have equity and participate in the upside that our best-in-class marketing companies regularly enable for our clients. And maybe I'll be a little bit briefer given the long-form comments on influencer marketing a second ago.
Speaker 4: Starting with Midnight Theatre, as a reminder, Dolphin Manages all aspects of publicity and marketing for Midnight Theatre, and its restaurant hidden leaves, while also facilitating talent and commercial relationships within the entertainment and culinary industries.
Speaker 4: Dolphin also holds a meaningful ownership stake in the venture.
Speaker 4: We continue to ramp up the programming at Midnight Theatre throughout the summer, aiming to have a full seven day a week scheduled by the end of September .
Speaker 4: To that end, we expect to have exciting programming partnerships to announce shortly in this quarter as well.
Speaker 4: Turning to our partnership with IMAX, we had the announcement that Amazon Studios obtained the worldwide rights to the Blue Angels. It's a noteworthy highlight of Q2 that we discussed during our previous earnings call, and I'll briefly touch on here. This accomplishment stems from Dolphin Ventures' multi-year collaboration with IMAX.
Speaker 4: jointly funding and producing a series of feature-length documentaries for the worldwide audience.
Speaker 4: The inaugural project, The Blue Angels, is a creation of JJ Abrams' bad robot productions.
Speaker 4: along with partners, obviously Dolphin Entertainment and IMAX, commenced filming last summer and is now wrapped production. We are in the final stages of editing and we anticipate its release in IMAX theaters during the first quarter of next year.
Speaker 4: As far as dolphins return, we project revenue generation of approximately $3.5 million through the acquisition agreement, yielding an approximate 75% ROI. As mentioned earlier, this projection does not include any revenue from ticket sales at IMAX institutional theaters.
Speaker 4: further enhancing the potential returns. Nor was any of the revenue recognized in our record Q2.
Speaker 4: We are excited to start realizing revenue in the coming quarters. We expect to have a lot more to talk about on Dolphin Ventures as a whole on our Q3 earnings call.
Speaker 4: And so, in summary, we feel we are well positioned to have a strong second half of the year, which has historically been the case due to the seasonality of our businesses.
Speaker 4: To have our second highest revenue quarter ever in Q2, when Q3 and Q4 are typically our biggest quarters, underpins our enthusiasm for what's to come.
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us on this journey. And to that end, I'll now turn it over to Mirta.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Bill, and good afternoon, everyone. I will now discuss results for the quarter-end in June 30, 2023.
Speaker 5: Total revenue for the second quarter and the June 30th, 2023 increased 11% to $11 million compared to the first quarter and it March 31st, 2023.
Speaker 5: Overall, operating expenses for the three months ended June 30, 2023 were approximately $18.5 million compared to approximately $12.5 million for the three months ended March 31, 2023.
Speaker 5: As Bill mentioned, included in that $18.5 million is a $6.5 million non-cash, non-recurring impairment of goodwill.
Speaker 5: During the second quarter, we performed a quantitative assessment driven by triggering events related to declines in our market capitalization combined with a lack of positive response from the market to positive information related to future projects that resulted in the impairment of goodwill.
Speaker 5: Operating expenses are composed of direct costs, payroll and benefits, selling general and administrative expenses, changes in the fair value of contingent consideration, depreciation and amortization, impairment of goodwill, and legal and professional fees.
Speaker 5: Direct costs for the quarter ended June 30, 2023, were $217,000 compared to $219,000 for the quarter ended March 31, 2023.
Speaker 5: Payroll costs were approximately $8.7 million in Q2 compared to $9.1 million in Q1, 2023.
Speaker 5: SG&A expenses were $2 million in Q2 compared to $1.9 million in Q1.
Speaker 5: Legal and professional fees were $496,000 compared to $763,000 in Q1, 2023.
Speaker 5: Operating loss for the quarter ended June 30, 2023 of $7.4 million and net loss for the quarter ended June 30, 2021.
Speaker 5: of $8 million, include non-cash items of over $7.1 million related to the non-recurring $6.5 million impairment of goodwill and $543,939 of depreciation and amortization.
Speaker 5: This compares to an operating loss for the quarter and the March 31, 2023 of $2.6 million and a net loss of $3 million, which include non-cash items for depreciation and amortization of $533,096. $2.
Speaker 5: and a loss from the change in the fair value of contingent consideration of $15,485 along with one time a non-recurring audit fees of $300,000.
Speaker 5: Loss per share was 60 cents per share based on 13,212,311 weighted average shares outstanding for both basic loss per share and fully diluted loss per share for the three months ended June 30.
Speaker 5: 60 cents per share based on 13,212,311 weighted average shares outstanding for both basic loss per share and fully diluted loss per share for the three months ended June 30, 2023.
Speaker 5: Loss per share of 23 cents per share, based on 12,640,285 weighted average shares outstanding for both basic and fully diluted loss per share for the three month send in March 31st, 2023.
Speaker 5: Cash and cash equivalent were 7 million as of June 30, 2023, as compared to 7.9 million as of March 31st, 2023. That concludes my financial remarks. I will now ask the operator to open the phone lines for Q&A. Operator, can you please pull for questions? I will now ask the operator to open the phone lines for Q&A. Operator, can you please pull for questions?
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Speaker 6: is live. Hello congratulations on strong revenue growth.
Speaker 6: My first question is, can you give us a sense if
Speaker 6: based on how long the rider and actor strike goes on, what the relative impact that might have on your business in the future. Oh Sure.
Speaker 4: Sure. Thank you, Alan. We're very proud of our revenue as well, especially for Q2.
Speaker 4: The writers strike.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have too big an impact on us. I remember.
Speaker 4: a brief conversation on this with Q1 earnings call because Obviously writers write projects that will be made in the future and the projects that we're promoting now and through for the next
Speaker 4: even year have already been produced. So that will have minimal impact on dolphin. It would take a rider strike well into next year to have an impact. The actor strike does have an impact.
Speaker 4: year have already been produced. So that will have minimal impact on dolphin. It would take a rider strike well into next year to have an impact. The actor strike does have an impact.
Speaker 4: We're blessed to be in a position that our talent division is a small piece of our overall revenue. That's talent division of 42S. 42S has four divisions. And then we've got more, you know.
Speaker 4: six operating subsidiaries. So there will be some dip in talent revenue at 42S, but as a whole, that represents a very small single digit fraction of dolphins overall revenue. And then, of course, we're all hopeful that the.
Speaker 4: actor strike in the writer strike will settle, you know, by the end of the quarter, let's hope, or early in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6: Thank you and thank you for the more detailed information about your social influencing businesses. You talked about expanding to other verticals. How do you see the momentum going with SBE? I want to thank everyone for doing their Written and
Speaker 6: How are you thinking about the kind of, how much you have to do to do that and maybe the timing of being able to pull that off?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was why we chose to really focus a good section of our prepared remarks on our influencer marketing agencies, because we would like, and you can probably guess that we would like to sell their services in combination with each other.
Speaker 4: Once we come back from Labor Day weekend, as we roll from September into the heavy, heavy selling seasons of late September through
Speaker 4: early December .
Speaker 4: we have these two companies that we'd like to be in the market as one. So, I
Speaker 4: Imagine everyone is looking forward to what that announcement could be in September , right? And then as we as to go forward from there to build what we think will be that dominant bi-coastal influencer marketing agency, I think we would like to add divisions.
Speaker 4: to it and become almost a rapid fire leader in each of those divisions on a regular cadence afterwards. And that's a cadence measured in weeks.
Speaker 4: between so
Speaker 4: a couple of those divisions announced before the end of the year, and most likely before we talk again November 15th. That's great. In partnership, I might add, with leading partners in a pipeline in those areas. So it's really gonna be something we're focused on, and quite frankly, why we wanted to raise it on this call, because people hopefully will be looking for those announcements, and we'll be delivering on our expectations, rather than say it all after the fact on November 15th.
Speaker 6: Your investment in. Need a Compton and the restaurant. That people sign up for the memberships in New Orleans. You had news out that you.
Speaker 4: Just if you can say anything about the monthly T or the economics that we could think about. Thank you. Sure, yeah. Shawshaw Lounge, we're very proud of that for a couple of different reasons. First, I should say, this is a form of dolphin ventures that I know many listeners out there strongly or feel good about because this is...
Speaker 4: partnership wherein we get a monthly fee to promote the Shawshaw Lounge in New Orleans and we also get an ownership stake in the venture itself. So we get paid cash every month.
Speaker 4: and we get an ownership stake in the success of the venture. That's very exciting for us and it's a perfect representation of the types of things that we're looking to do and quite frankly we feel we're uniquely qualified to do.
Speaker 4: Second reason why it's, we're very proud of it I should say, is because this was a concept ideated with our team at the door. Obviously our culinary celebrity chef and hospitality PR firm the door is.
Speaker 4: is the very best at what they do. And the concept of putting this membership lounge, public and private, in New Orleans, came out of conversations they had with Nina and her husband. And so how it works is for Shawshaw, it will be open to the public. We plan to open it in early 2024.
Speaker 4: and you can go in and have a drink. But there will be sections of the lounge that are open only to members. And members will have certain rights and privileges as well as access to forms of quote, programming unquote, that are not available to the general public.
Speaker 4: So celebrity chefs may be coming in through New Orleans. We'll be programming that, let's say, on a regular cadence, maybe once a month. And members can have a special dinner prepared by Mark Borgioni from New York or Rodney Scott from Charleston or Stephanie Izard from Chicago or Michelle Bernstein from Miami, all of whom...
Speaker 4: our minority partners in Shawshaw New Orleans and all of them would have the right to open a Shawshaw in their home city.
Speaker 4: where they would take the larger percentage. It's a really unique and creative business model as well as just a great idea to have this as a social club in New Orleans. So we did, we put memberships on sale just a couple of weeks ago. We're rapidly getting to the dollar amount that will allow for.
Speaker 4: deposits to be put down on leases and construction to begin. So more to come on Shaw Shop, but I know the team who was down in New Orleans for the announcement, Time to Tales of the Cocktail, have done a great job.
Speaker 4: and kudos to the team at the door and we're all very excited for Sasha. That's great. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 6: to the team at the door and we're all very excited for Sasha. That's great. Thank you. In terms of blue angels.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if I heard you right. Did you say that you expected to get released in the first quarter, 24 or the first stab? And then the three and a half million payment, that's related to Amazon streaming. Is there a way you could help us understand?
Speaker 4: How did I get spread out of when you get the payments for that? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. It's quick. So, yes, we anticipate being in theaters in Q1 of 2024.
Speaker 4: in theory still possible in Q4, the original plan, but as we and JJ take the...
Speaker 4: time and post to do this as best as possible. We're very excited with the cuts we're seeing and it looks to be a special film. Then we're trying to juggle as well, the best release date for it with the least amount of competition. So we're looking at different dates in both quarters. So I'm gonna be conservative and say that we're aiming more towards Q1.
Speaker 4: But we get paid by Amazon typically, well, the revenue, they have the right to put it on their service within 30 days after we release in theaters. And then they pay us effectively in full at that time. So it's a revenue that we should recognize in the first half of next year.
Speaker 4: if not realistically in the first quarter of next year. So, and there's even an installment we'll receive in this calendar year as well. So, all that revenue will be coming in fairly short order.
Speaker 6: Okay, any, I know that the thoughts are,
Speaker 6: with IMACS that this partnership can result in additional documentaries, any comments on? Well.
Speaker 6: Are there any issues with the strikes that are slowing down the potential next one or do you still feel good about being able to
Speaker 6: Get them out.
Speaker 4: We feel good about them. That's a very savvy question, Alan, as you often ask.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is more than even just a hope or dream. It's a, we've entered into a multi-year multi-project 5050 deal with IMACS, which is back when Dolphin was a private company is how I built often co-financing and co-producing with Nickelodeon and with Warner Brothers and many others, right, and 5050 deals. So.
Speaker 4: We're very proud of our partnership with IMAX. They've been tremendous partners and we have a hit right out of the gate. Right? So that's also...
Speaker 4: Great to be able to report. We will do more documentaries with them and works, as I mentioned on Q1 Army's call too, we're looking at other forms of entertainment, some of which would come out of midnight theater that we could go 50, 50 on as well. And I don't want to jinx it and I don't want to promise something with a hard deadline, but I...
Speaker 4: I do believe we'll have a pretty big announcement on that front before we speak again in November . Yes, we'll be doing more.
Speaker 4: Just have to find that right follow up. It's tough when you've got it hit, right? I can understand how certain creative minds get a little frozen at times once you have a big hit on your first outing. What do you follow it up with, right? But we just have to get over that and feel good about whatever we pick second and make sure it's worthy of an iMac screen just like the Blue Angels will be in.
Speaker 4: we'll make another great film. So yeah, we're excited for that partnership.
Speaker 6: In previous calls, you expressed some interest in live events. Is that an area you feel the same about?
Speaker 4: 2017 right? And it's only going to be more pronounced this year because we have two influenza market age and the season instead of one and they're highly seasonal for the second half of the year. But the other reason we're so excited for the second half of the year and this is coming on the heels of a record second quarter, right? So I'm not trying to minimize what we just accomplished. I'm just saying we we very much are excited for the second half of the year because we have multiple catalysts coming. We believe and the couple of those relate to midnight data, a couple of those relate to the Influencer Marketing Agency's which is why I spent so much time on this call and we still believe.
Speaker 4: We will complete the super group this year, as I mentioned on the K call on the first quarter call, and the missing piece is that celebrity live event production company that will allow us to go into the third leg of the three-legged stool of Dolphin Ventures. We could we could get into the right types of live events that we already promote.
Speaker 4: And I'm very excited for that as well. And you know, we'll see what the timing is around our Q3 call, but expect, yes, I expect you'll hear more about that from us as well. And so you can see we have maybe up to half a dozen different catalysts coming in the next few months, which is another reason why it was...
Speaker 4: It was good to put the non-cash one-time impairment behind us because we feel we have such a bright future in the next quarter.
Speaker 6: Thank you. I had three just housekeeping questions, but once since you just mentioned the non-cash impairment, I was a little confused because I usually think of an impairment when people think that the outlook of a business has changed. And what I heard you guys say was,
Speaker 6: You didn't impair the pressure stock price was lower, which I'm not familiar with why that would cause an impairment versus is there a particular business that you have that the outlook changed or maybe you could just educate me on how this works. Thanks.
Speaker 5: The stock price doesn't necessarily cause the impairment, but it is a cause for taking a closer look at your assets, especially when the book value of the company is higher than the market cap.
Speaker 5: So, that was the case in Q, in the last quarter of 22 and it has been through 2023. So we considered that to be a triggering event to test our goodwill, which we did based, you know, based on discounted cash flows, and we determined that that impairment was necessary. Yeah, the market capitalization is one of the four triggering categories, Alan, if that's helpful. Great.
Speaker 5: So that was the case in Q, in the last quarter of 22, and it has been through 2023. So we considered that to be a triggering event to test our goodwill, which we did based on this kind of cash blows and we determined that that impairment was necessary. Yeah, the market capitalization is one of the four triggering categories. Alan, if that's helpful, that require the review.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Two other housekeeping. One, we use EBITDA in our valuation and in our model, but we don't get depreciation expense until your Q comes out. So could you give us an estimate of what depreciation expense was for the quarter? And then the second question is often when the Q comes out on the front page.
Speaker 6: You have the shares I'm standing as of today, and I was wondering if that number is going to be meaningfully different from the average deluded share account that you had in your press for this.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. So the depreciation and immunization is one number. Depreciation is a very small part of that. And.
Speaker 5: As of right now, if there are no other changes in their company structure, it's gonna be about $550. And then on the stock count, we had used $13.2 million for the earnings per share. We lost for share? 13.2 million shares. Chairs, sorry. Yeah, and it'll be about a million from that. Yeah. Ellen. Well, oh, do you mean the number today is around a million?
Speaker 5: If there are no other changes in our company structure, it's going to be about $550,000. And then on the stock count, we had used $13.2 million for the earnings per share, the loss per share. $13.2 million shares. Shares, sorry. Yeah, and it will be about $1 million from that, Allen. Will, oh, do you mean the number today is around $1 million higher than $13.2 million?
Speaker 6: That's right. We had a convertible note convert. That was a good chunk of that. Okay, great. I think those are my main questions. No, it's, I was going over the history and looking at,
Speaker 4: where it is today. So, congratulations. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. We're very proud of what we've built and are still building.
Speaker 4: Bill, I just want to start out by saying that these are two very good looking questions. I just want to, I just want to preface that. Are we going to make any money from Barbie and Oppenheimer either directly or indirectly because it seems like both of them has turned out to be, I guess, a lot bigger than anticipated. Is it anticipated? Well, sadly, and for many reasons, Chris, for you, I know we do not represent Barbie, but we, so we do not have.
Speaker 4: dollars. Dollars aren't play Oppenheimer in the US have been at IMAX theaters and that may be globally too. So congrats to them but yeah those are two great films no doubt about it.
Speaker 7: Second, good looking question. It has been nearly three years since you guys have acquired B-Social.
Speaker 7: I know it probably went by a lot faster than anticipated. What was the biggest surprise for you guys in terms of what you learned about the influencer market? And thank you again for taking my questions. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Oh no, of course, Chris. Well, I guess we bought these social three years ago this month on this call. We announced it. So yeah, it's a nice anniversary and been very, very happy with these social, Allie Grant, Kirsten Weinberg, Belinda Strong. They're extremely strong.
Speaker 4: Young executives and we feel very fortunate that we have the social and dolphin family. Couple of three years later, I'll look back, influencer marketing is on the ground. As I said in the prepare remarks, the opportunity to pair them with a New York-based agency.
Speaker 4: was because of the strength of BeSocial. We knew if we could, as they were growing significantly year over year, and if we could pair them with an equal agency in New York, we could immediately have the entertainment industry's largest influence marketing agency. So it was a testament to the growth of BeSocial that
Speaker 4: that validated the thought process and validated the investment thesis. I think what we did not know three years ago was that one year later the Supreme Court was gonna allow for college athletes to be paid through brand campaigns. And, you know, I don't know that this would have helped me in my college basketball playing days. Might have helped some of them.
Speaker 4: Those college kids are influencers. That's how they're getting paid. That's what they're getting paid for is to post on social media. So.
Speaker 4: The diversification of influencer marketing away from the traditional stronghold of female fashion beauty wellness.
Speaker 4: gives us even an expanded opportunity to build a truly...
Speaker 4: unique and impressive influencer marketing agency. And I'm proud that we'll have some athletes in there too, Chris. So I think those are probably a couple of the things that have come to us in the last three years. And I guess if I could say one more thing, if I were to guess.
Speaker 4: In the next three years, we're seeing it, we bought B-social five months after COVID started. So the first year or two with B-social events were not as much of a thing. They're back now, and I think that in the next three years, influencer events.
Speaker 4: which I always put out press releases once a year, or twice a year about our showrooms, that be social, does, and that's blended in her hard work. We will be expanding this, and the opportunity to do events with influencers.
Speaker 4: Specifically, four influencers is a huge white space opportunity for us.
Speaker 4: Influencers already go to our other events. You can't work a movie red carpet without influencers today. You can't do a hotel or restaurant opening without influencers today. You can't release a music album without influencers today. But I'm talking about events specifically for and including and where the speakers are influencers.
Speaker 4: And we think we're uniquely positioned to capitalize on that opportunity. So that's hopefully that was a thorough answer to your question, Chris.
Speaker 7: It was, but technically when you're usually designating athletes, a lot of people don't consider tennis players as part of that equation. Sadly, sadly. But I was thinking pickleball, Chris, something I could say. Listen, in many circles, in many social circles, pickleball has more cash a than tennis.
Speaker 7: It's always a pleasure when you guys update your calls. Thank you again Bill and looking forward to being on the next one.
Speaker 7: always a pleasure when you guys update your calls. Thank you again Bill and looking forward to being on the next one. Thanks Chris. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: There are no additional questions in queue at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Bill O'Dowd for any closing remarks.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you everyone for listening as always. We're very, very proud of our Q2 and our balance sheet. As you heard, it's nice to finish with all the contingent considerations and paying out all the earnouts very proud that our subsidiaries earned the earnouts.
Speaker 4: Speaking of B. Social, the very last one, timing wise for us and we're very happy to pay out that full-learn-out this spring. So with that off the balance sheet, we just feel like we have rocket fuel behind us as we go into the typically...