Q2 2023 NIO Inc Earnings Call
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by for the Neo Incorporated's first quarter 2023 earnings conference call.
Speaker 1: Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for standing by for the Neo Incorporated First Quarter 2023 Erning's Conference Call.
Speaker 1: At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Today's conference call is being recorded.
At this time all participants are in a listen only mode.
Today's conference call is being recorded.
Speaker 1: I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Eve Tang, from Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
I will now turn the call over to your host Ms Chang from capital market.
Please go ahead.
Speaker 2: Good morning and good evening, everyone. Welcome to the news of second quarter, 2023, earnings conference call. The company's financial and operating results were published in the press release earlier today, and I posted at the company's I.O. Web.
Good morning, and good evening, everyone welcome to the news of second quarter 'twenty two 'twenty three earnings conference call. The company's financial and operating results were published in the press released earlier today and are posted at the company's IR website.
Speaker 2: On today's call, we have Mr. William Lee, founder chairman of the booth and chief executive officer, Mr. Steven Bon, chief financial officer, Mr. Stanley Trude, senior VP of Finance, and the Miss Jade Guay VP of Captain Mark.
On today's call we have Mr. William Li founder Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Steven Boal, Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Stunning Truitt senior VP of finance and MS. Jade Wei VP of capital markets before we continue please be kindly reminded that today's discussion.
Speaker 2: Before we continue, please be kindly reminded that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements that made under the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Security's litigation reform act of 1995.
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Speaker 2: Please also note that news earnings price release and this conference call include discussions of unaudited GAAP financial information as well as unaudited non-GAAP financial measures.
Please also note that new the earnings press release and this conference call includes a discussion of all audited GAAP financial information as well as all audited non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our news press release, which contains a reconciliation of the unaudited non-GAAP measure.
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Speaker 2: With that, I will now turn the call over to Overseo, Mr. William Lee. William, please go ahead.
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Speaker 3: In the second quarter of 2023, NEO delivered a total of 23,500 and 20 smart electric leads.
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Speaker 4: In July 2023, as we started mass production and the ramp up of more new models, new monthly delivery volume grew rapidly to 20,462 units, representing a year-over-year growth of 104% and a new monthly high. According to the retail statistics,
In July 'twenty to 'twenty, three as we started mass production and the ramp up of more new models, New York, mostly delivery volume grew rapidly to 20462 units representing a year over year growth of 100, and a 4% and a new monthly high.
Crawled into the retail statistics off called Park in July you know it was the best selling brand in the premium electric vehicles stockman, whereas our transaction price of over RMB 300000, claiming a 15% market share.
Speaker 2: In July , NIO was the best-selling brand in the premium electric vehicle segment, with a transaction price of over B300,000, claiming a 59% discount.
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Speaker 2: As NIO completes its product lineup, further expands the self and service network and the power network, enhances its all-round self capability and rolls out self and the marketing plans. The competitiveness of the NT2 products have been further unleashed. The delivery volume in the third quarter of 2023 is expected to be between 55,000 and 57,000 units.
As new completes its product lineup for their expense, the south and service networks and the power of network enhances its all around self capability and the rolls out the south and the marketing plans. The competitiveness of the untreated product has been further unleashed the delivery volume in the third.
Order of 'twenty to 'twenty three is expected to be between 50050 5050 thousand installed in units.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your attention.
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Speaker 2: And now I would like to share with you the recent highlights of our products, R&D and operations.
And now I would like to share with you the ways and highlights of our product R&D and operations.
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Speaker 2: Following the delivery of the flagship COOPETSUV EC7, the flagship sedan 2023 NEO ET7, and the all-round SUV on-your-yes-6 earlier this year, we started to deliver the smart electric tour ET5 touring or ET5T for short, and the flagship SUV on-your-yes-8 in June .
Following the delivery of the flagship Coupe SUV you see seven the flagship sedan in 'twenty to 'twenty, three new E T seven and to be all around as you'll be all new yes. Six earlier. This year, we started to deliver the smart Electric tour E. T five touring or E. T. Five T for short and the flagship.
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Speaker 2: In the second quarter, new achieved high quality delivery of five new models with user satisfaction exceeding our expectations.
In the second quarter, new achieved high quality delivery of five new models, but you also satisfaction exceeding our expectations.
Speaker 2: This also proves new capabilities of conducting first product iteration and the managing product complex.
This also proves newest capability of conducting fast product iteration and the managing product complexity.
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Speaker 2: In September , we plan to launch and deliver the new Meetify's Coupe As UV EC6, which marks the completion of our project transition to the NG2 class.
In September we plan to launch and deliver the new meat. Besides Coupe SUV, you say six which marks the completion of our product transition should be until two platform with that news entire entry to product lineup featuring eight different models will have entered the premium VEB Mark.
Speaker 2: With that, news entire NT2 project line up featuring eight different models will have entered the premium BED marketing.
To better cater to the diverse needs of the users in the premium segment and to drive the steady growth of deliveries.
Speaker 2: to better cater to the diverse needs of the users in the premium segment and drive the static growth of delivery.
Speaker 3: The future of the product-based security system is the high-end market market. In February of 2023, the Chinese New Year's Eve is the first to be launched. The first to be launched in China, the S.U.V.E.L.T. in the Chinese market called ESC. The S.U.V.E.L.T.S. will be able to secure the security level of the European Union and will be able to secure the U.S.N.C.P. and the U.S.N.C.P. The U.S.N.C.P. will be able to secure the U.S.N.C.P and the U.S.N.C.P and will be able to secure the U.S.N.C.P. and the U.S.N.C.P.
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Speaker 2: Newt's product safety has been highly recognized by authoritative institutions worldwide.
News product safety has been highly recognized by all sorts of institutions worldwide on July 12, 2023, new smart electric meter sites sit down and eat your five and the meat a large SUV E. All southern which is called E. S. Southern in China, both obtained the five star safety rating.
Speaker 2: On July 12, 2023, news smart electric mid-flight sedan ET5, and the mid-large SUV EL7, which is called ES7 in China, both obtained the five-star safety rating from Euro and Cap.
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Speaker 2: Making new the first car brand receiving the five star rating since Euro NCAP adopted the new testing protocols for 2021.
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Speaker 2: Enabled by the FUSTAG technologies developed in-house and the closed-loop data management, NIO has made significant progress in the assisted and intelligent driving. User-based and engagement continue to grow. At present, over 100,000 new users have activated Medicaid-unpilot plus or NOPE plus and have driven on it for over 80 million kilometers.
Enabled by the full stack technology developed in house ended up close to loop data management. Neil has made significant progress in the assisted and intelligent driving user base and engagement continue to grow.
At present over 100000, new users have activated navigate them pilot plus or no P plus and habit driven on it for over 80 million kilometers.
Speaker 2: The mileage penetration rate of NOP plus has reached 53%.
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Speaker 2: In the meantime, we have carried out multiple rounds of early bird program in Beijing and Shanghai for NLP plus in all operational domains, including in urban environments.
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Speaker 2: In terms of the SELC and service network, so far we have 420 new house, new space, and pop-up stores in 143 cities and 304 service centers, as well as 58 delivery centers in 211 cities worldwide.
In terms of the Salt and service network. So far we have 420, new house, new space and the pop up stores in 100, and a 44 cities and 304 service centers as well as 58 delivery centers in 201 cities worldwide.
Speaker 2: Since July , we have started to take a more active manner in expanding the user touchpoints and sales channels and enlarging the sales team in China.
Since July we have started to take a more access manner in expanding the use of touch points and sales channels and enlarging the south team in China. This action as well for the increase our self capabilities and proposing south growth someone else all of them yet he has them on churn well then shouldn't do you didn't lose you put your your chance.
Speaker 2: This actions will further increase our self-capabilities and the propelling
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Speaker 2: As for the charging and swapping network, to date, we have installed 1,747 power swap stations worldwide and provided more than 27 million battery swaps. Our Expressway battery swap network in China consists of 476 swap stations along the 10 major Expressways connecting 68 major CD.
As for the charging and swapping network to date, we have installed 1740 southern power swap stations worldwide and provided more than 27 million Bachelorette swaps. Our expressway battery not battery swap network in China consists of 476 swap station along the <unk>.
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Speaker 2: We've also deployed over 7,000 and my 100 power chargers and the my thousand and the 700 destination chargers.
We've also deployed over 7000 and in my Hunter Power Chargers, and then I saw that in its 700 destination charges Neil has become the automotive Brian that the most public charters and the most of the charterers along suppress waste in China.
Speaker 2: NIO has become the automotive brand with the most public chargers and the most chargers along expressways in China.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, News Charging Map has connected with over 1.36 million third-party chargers worldwide.
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Speaker 2: On July 20, NIO announced the flexible battery upgrade service by day, providing users with more options and fulfilling more use cases.
On July 20th you announced the flexible battery upward serviced by day, providing users with more options and fulfilling more use cases.
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Speaker 2: In July , we organized the host city election for New Day 2023, and the city of CN was voted by new users as the host city this year.
In July we organized the host city election for Neo during 2023, and the city of Xian was voted by new users as the whole of the C. D. This year by us as well on the shares of tableau Tableau F. She didn't suncor doesn't run nordson Sentosa Coyote once we turned that it would be somewhere around 20 and trunk and then launch.
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Speaker 2: On August 20th, we partnered with Worldwide Fund for Nature and Gilea Mountain National Park in installing the world's first photovoltaic self-consumption system with V2G capability. It features solar power stations, V2G chargers and battery electric leads.
On August 20th we partners, whereas worldwide font for nature, and Chilean Mountain National Park in installing the wards first photovoltaics self consumption system, whereas b to G capability, if be trusted solar power stations, which would you Chargers and battery electric vehicles. Moreover, we initially.
Speaker 2: Moreover, we initiated the Clean Parks Citizen Scientist Program to engage more users and the public in conserving biodiversity and supporting the establishment of a volunteer system for national parks in hope of striving for a shared vision.
The Queen Parks citizen scientists program to engage more users and the public in conserving biodiversity and supporting the establishment of a volunteer system for National Parks in hope of striving for a shared a vision of Blue skies, Southern Sudan from here out into out exactly who she's had a totally G go see but.
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Speaker 2: In July , Neil received the strategic equity investment from Simon Holdings.
Speaker 2: an investment vehicle majorly owned by the Abu Dhabi government. The investment package totaled $1.1 billion. In addition, we will also cooperate with a new strategic investor to jointly pursue opportunities in our international business.
Investment vehicle, but majorly owned by the arbitrage because much of the investment package totaled $1 1 billion in U S. Dollars. In addition, we will also cooperate with the new strategic investor to jointly pursue opportunities in our international business.
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Speaker 2: Although the smart EV market is full of challenges and the competition is increasingly fierce, with our continuous efforts in core technology.
Although the smart EV market is full of challenges and the computation is increasingly fierce with our continuous efforts in core technologies product portfolio, south capabilities manufacturing and logistics, we are fully ready to rise to the challenge, we believe that with focused marketing and social strategy.
Speaker 2: Project portfolio, self-cababilities, manufacturing and logistics, we are fully ready to rise to the challenge.
Speaker 2: We believe that with focus to marketing and the self-strategy as well as the execution, Neil can drive the static growth of self and the deliveries. Well, for their optimizing the cost structure and enhancing operating efficiency on all fronts.
As far as the exact fusion Neil can drive the steady growth of south and the deliveries well further optimizing the cost structure and enhancing operating efficiency on all fronts. We look forward to New York strong market performance in the second half.
Speaker 2: We look forward to a new strong market performance in the second half.
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Speaker 2: As always, thank you for your support. With that, I will now turn the call over to Steven, who will provide the financial details for the second quarter. Over to you, Steven. Thank you, we did. I will not go over our key and I will resolve. But the second call draw of the industry.
As always thank you for your support with that I will now turn the call over to Stephen who will provide the financial details for the second quarter over to you Steve It doesn't get rid of them.
I mean I'll go over our key financial results for the second quarter of industry.
Speaker 5: And to remind for the lens of the call, as a reference to R&B only in my discussion.
And to be mindful of the length of the coal.
Reference to RMB only in my discussion today.
Speaker 5: are in carriage dismissed to refer to our audience press release, which is post online for additional details.
I encourage listeners to refer to my priorities press release, which is supposed to online for additional details.
Speaker 5: Our total revenues in technical quarter were 8.8 billion R&B represented the increase of 40.8% over a year, and a decrease of 70.8% the quarter of quarter. Our total revenue was made up two parts.
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Speaker 5: We can see all the technical quarter were 7.2 billion RRB represented the increase of 24.9% year over year and 22.1% of quarter over quarter.
The second quarter were $7 2 billion RMB represent a decrease of 24, 9% year over year, and 22, 1% quarter over quarter.
Speaker 5: that decreed in vehicle sales over a year, while the minute due to lower average selling price, the result of higher proportion of the five, and 75 kilowatt hour standard range battery pack deliveries, and decreed in delivery volume.
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Speaker 5: Cutter sales in the second quarter were 1.6 billion RBs, revisiting a craze of 1.199% over a year, and 9.3% the quarter of a quarter.
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Speaker 5: The increased sales over a year, while the minute you do the increase in sales of use cards, accessories, and professional power solutions, are the result of continuing to grow.
The encouraging honest tea all year over year market due to the increased sales of used car extra three and provisional popular shows otherwise.
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Speaker 5: The increased other sales quarter of a quarter was a minute due to the increase in sales of youth cars and for very powerful solutions as a result of continuing new growth of our youth.
The inquiries now how does feels quite of a coker was mainly due to the increase in sales of just cost and provision of power solutions. As a result of continued growth of our users.
Partially offset by decreased revenue from provision of auto finance and therapies.
Speaker 5: partially offset but decreed in revenue from provision of auto-financiate service.
Speaker 5: Broad smart in second quarter of consumer three was 1.0%. Compared with 3.0% in the second quarter of consumer two and 1.5% in the first quarter of consumer three. 2.0% in the second quarter of consumer three.
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Speaker 5: the decrees in vehicle margin over year. While the many attributed to changes in product mix.
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Speaker 5: The increase in research and development expenses year over year and quarter of a quarter, while the meeting actually gets to first, the increased personal cost.
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Speaker 5: and second, the incremental design and development cost for new products and technology.
Second the incremental design and development costs for new products and technologies.
Speaker 5: S Genics and Sets in Section Quarter were to put non-mini-rb, represented an increase of 25.2% over a year, and increased up 16.8% of quarter-court.
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Speaker 5: The increase in estgenics has been over a year and a quarter. But the primary is to first, the increase in personal costs related to sales functions. Second, the increase in sales and marketing activities. Increase the launch of new products.
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Speaker 5: At third, increased rental and related expenses, related companies, sales, and service, now working expand.
Third increase of rental and related expenses related to the company's sales and service expansion.
Speaker 5: Plus, the operation in the second quarter was 6.1 BNRB, which is an increase of 17.5% in your year, an increase of 18.8% of the quarter quarter.
Loss from operation in the second quarter was $6, one b not b or even increase.
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Now this concludes our prepared remarks.
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Speaker 5: Thank you. My question about your sales network structure. Recently, I heard you hire a few of the sales persons from other luxury brands such as the BMW, Mercedes and Audi. So what's the reason you hire the non-neil sales person recently and how is the impact so far for your sales model increase?
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Unknown Executive: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by for the NIO Incorporated First Quarter 2023 Erning's Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Today's conference call is being recorded.
Unknown Executive: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by for the NIO Incorporated First Quarter 2023 Erning's Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Today's conference call is being recorded.
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Eve Tang: I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Eve Tang, from Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Eve Tang: I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Eve Tang, from Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
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Eve Tang: Good morning and good evening, everyone. Welcome to the NIO's second quarter 2023 Erning's Conference Call. The company's financial and operating results were published in the press release earlier today and posted at the company's IR website.
Eve Tang: Good morning and good evening, everyone. Welcome to the NIO's second quarter 2023 Erning's Conference Call. The company's financial and operating results were published in the press release earlier today and posted at the company's IR website.
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Eve Tang: On today's call, we have Mr. William Lee, founder Chairman of the Boat and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Steven Feng, Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Stanley Trude, Senior VP of Finance and the Miss Jade Guay VP of Capital Markets. Before we continue, please be kindly reminded that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements that made under the say-pubber provisions of the U.S. Private Security's Litigation Reform Act of 1995, forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties.
Eve Tang: On today's call, we have Mr. William Lee, founder Chairman of the Boat and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Steven Feng, Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Stanley Trude, Senior VP of Finance and the Miss Jade Guay VP of Capital Markets. Before we continue, please be kindly reminded that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements that made under the say-pubber provisions of the U.S. Private Security's Litigation Reform Act of 1995, forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties.
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Eve Tang: As such, the company's actual results may be materially different from the views expressed there today. Further information regarding risks and uncertainties is included in certain filings of the company with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The stock exchange of Hong Kong limited and the Singapore exchange of securities trading limited. The company does not assume any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required under the applicable law. Please also note that news earnings of press release and this conference call include discussions of un-audited gap financial information as well as un-audited non-gap financial measures. Please refer to news press release which contains a reconciliation of the un-audited non-gap measures to comparable gap measures.
Eve Tang: As such, the company's actual results may be materially different from the views expressed there today. Further information regarding risks and uncertainties is included in certain filings of the company with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The stock exchange of Hong Kong limited and the Singapore exchange of securities trading limited. The company does not assume any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required under the applicable law. Please also note that news earnings of press release and this conference call include discussions of un-audited gap financial information as well as un-audited non-gap financial measures. Please refer to news press release which contains a reconciliation of the un-audited non-gap measures to comparable gap measures.
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William Li: With that, I will now turn the call over to Overseo, Mr. William Lee. William, please go ahead. Hello, everyone.
William Li: With that, I will now turn the call over to Overseo, Mr. William Lee. William, please go ahead. Hello, everyone.
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William Li: Thank you for joining Neil's 2023 Q2 earnings call. In the second quarter of 2023, Neil delivered a total of 23,500 and 20 smart electric vehicles. In July, more new products and products are being sold out. In July, 2,462,000 electric vehicles can be sold out of 1004,000 electric vehicles. In July, 30,000 electric vehicles can be sold out of 1004,000 electric vehicles. In July 2023, as we started mass production and the ramp up of more new models, Neil's monthly delivery volume grew rapidly to 20,462 units, representing a year-over-year growth of 100 and 4% and a new monthly high.
William Li: Thank you for joining Neil's 2023 Q2 earnings call. In the second quarter of 2023, Neil delivered a total of 23,500 and 20 smart electric vehicles. In July, more new products and products are being sold out. In July, 2,462,000 electric vehicles can be sold out of 1004,000 electric vehicles. In July, 30,000 electric vehicles can be sold out of 1004,000 electric vehicles. In July 2023, as we started mass production and the ramp up of more new models, Neil's monthly delivery volume grew rapidly to 20,462 units, representing a year-over-year growth of 100 and 4% and a new monthly high.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Bingwang, for your first question, actually around June , we have realized that inside of the company, in terms of the number of ourselves persons, as well as the capabilities of the selling products, we are locked behind by the competitors in the market. For example, for those luxury brands like BMW or Mercedes, the size of their sales team is six to seven times of hours.
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Speaker 2: Without sufficient personnel or touchpoint, we cannot realize a very good user satisfaction, realize very good test drives, or high conversion rate from these two orders. So starting from July and August , we have taken a more active manner in improving our self-capability.
One and July and August we have taken a more active miners in improving ourself capabilities and a way that we hope that the company will be able to support the new orders of 30000 units per month.
William Li: According to the retail statistics of Koutark, in July, Neil was the best selling brand in the premium electric vehicle segment with a transaction price of over on the 300,000, claiming a 59% market share. [inaudible] As NIO completes its product line-up, further expands the self-and-service network and the power network, enhances its all-round self-capability and the growth of self-and-market implants. The competitiveness of the NG2 products has been further unleashed. The delivery volume in the third quarter of 2023 is expected to be between 50,000, 55,000 and 57,000 units.
William Li: According to the retail statistics of Koutark, in July, Neil was the best selling brand in the premium electric vehicle segment with a transaction price of over on the 300,000, claiming a 59% market share. [inaudible] As NIO completes its product line-up, further expands the self-and-service network and the power network, enhances its all-round self-capability and the growth of self-and-market implants. The competitiveness of the NG2 products has been further unleashed. The delivery volume in the third quarter of 2023 is expected to be between 50,000, 55,000 and 57,000 units.
Speaker 2: And with that, we hope that the company will be able to support the new orders of 30,000 units per month. That will be contributed by our self-network as well as the personnel increase.
That will be contributed to by our south not work as well as the personnel increase so that by the end of September we won't be able to real life that targets of course, it takes time for us to really train the personnel and also to find at the locations. So that we won't have that can be built initial cause that they look at rite aid.
Speaker 2: so that by the end of September , we will be able to realize that targets. Of course, it takes time for us to really train the personnel and also to find the location.
Speaker 2: So we will have that initial capability ready by the end of September and then the real effect will kick in from October . That is our existing plan for the improvement. This is also why starting July and August we've been taking some active measures and actions in expanding our soft network and the touchpoints, especially in lower tier cities where we don't have a full-fledged facilities or stores, we hope to really secure and higher experience than the citizen softsperses who have their networks and user bases already to help us with the-
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William Li: And now, I would like to share with you the recent highlights of our products, R&D, and operations. [inaudible] of five new models with user-self-action, exceeding our expectations. This also proves news capabilities of conducting first-product iteration and managing product complexity. In September, we plan to launch and deliver the new mid-size Coupe SUV-E6, which marks the completion of our product transition to the NG2 platform. With that, news-entire NG2 project line-up featuring eight different models will have entered the premium BEV market, to better cater to the diverse needs of the users in the premium segment and drive the static growth of delivery.
William Li: And now, I would like to share with you the recent highlights of our products, R&D, and operations. [inaudible] of five new models with user-self-action, exceeding our expectations. This also proves news capabilities of conducting first-product iteration and managing product complexity. In September, we plan to launch and deliver the new mid-size Coupe SUV-E6, which marks the completion of our product transition to the NG2 platform. With that, news-entire NG2 project line-up featuring eight different models will have entered the premium BEV market, to better cater to the diverse needs of the users in the premium segment and drive the static growth of delivery.
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William Li: NG2 project safety has been highly recognized by authoritative institutions worldwide. On July 12, 2023, NG2's smart electric mid-size sedan ET5 and the mid-large SUV-E67, which is called ES7 in China, both obtained the five-star safety rating from EuroNCAP, making NG2 the first car brand receiving the five-star rating since EuroNCAP adopted the new testing protocols for 2023. Yes, enabled by the full stack technologies developed in-house and the closed loop data management. NIO has made significant progress in the assisted and intelligent driving.
William Li: NG2 project safety has been highly recognized by authoritative institutions worldwide. On July 12, 2023, NG2's smart electric mid-size sedan ET5 and the mid-large SUV-E67, which is called ES7 in China, both obtained the five-star safety rating from EuroNCAP, making NG2 the first car brand receiving the five-star rating since EuroNCAP adopted the new testing protocols for 2023. Yes, enabled by the full stack technologies developed in-house and the closed loop data management. NIO has made significant progress in the assisted and intelligent driving.
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Speaker 2: And regarding your second question, in July we have delivered more than 20,000 vehicles and as shown by our guidance, our delivery volume in August and September are lower than that in July . Of this is mainly because by the end of July we have announced the adjustments to our power swap user benefits.
And regarding your stock kind of questions in July we have delivered more than 20, you saw them vehicles and as shown by our garden items, our delivery volume in August and September are lower than that in July. This is mainly because that by the end of July we have Oh, we have announced adjustments to our pop.
Our swap it you'll say benefits before you would start to enjoy or are entitled to two four or six gray swaps per month, but starting from August. The first all the new orders are not entitled to Fray swaps anymore. This also help us to put a hat some orders where users with a strong demand for power swap two in July.
Speaker 2: Before users enjoy or are entitled to 4 or 6 free swaps per month, but starting from August 1st, all the new orders are not entitled to free swaps anymore.
Speaker 2: This also helped us to put a hat, some orders were users with strong demands for power swap to interlite. And this has also affected the delivery volume in July . In terms of the August , we believe that it will take some time for the order, momentum, and intake to be back to the normal track. But in the meantime, in August , we've also witnessed the new high of the numbers of passenger drives.
And this has also affected the delivery volume in July in terms of the August with a view that it will take some time for the order momentum that it takes to be back to the normal truck, but in the meantime in August we've also witnessed our new high off the numbers off the plastic lives athletes Oh average speaking during the weekends, we have more than.
Speaker 2: or average speaking on during the weekends we have more than 10,000 test drives. This represents a significant growth from the past.
Hence I'll then I'll past it drives this represents a significant quote from the past months and in the meantime, we also understand that it will take some time for the task to try to be truly converted into orders and we will wait for that but overall speaking we are very confident instead of watching the order intake as well as debt.
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, we also understand that it will take some time for the test drive to be truly converted into orders. And we will wait for that, but over speaking, we are very confident in stabilizing the order intake as well as the delivery volume.
William Li: User base and engagement continue to grow. At present, over a hundred thousand new users have activated Medicaid Unpilot Plus or NLP Plus and have driven on it for over 80 million kilometers. The mileage penetration rate of NLP Plus has reached 53%. In the meantime, we have carried out multiple rounds of early bird program in Beijing and Shanghai for NLP Plus in all operational domains, including in urban environments. In terms of the self and service network, so far we have 420 new house, new space and pop-up stores in 143 cities and 34 service centers, as well as 58 delivery centers in 21 cities worldwide.
William Li: User base and engagement continue to grow. At present, over a hundred thousand new users have activated Medicaid Unpilot Plus or NLP Plus and have driven on it for over 80 million kilometers. The mileage penetration rate of NLP Plus has reached 53%. In the meantime, we have carried out multiple rounds of early bird program in Beijing and Shanghai for NLP Plus in all operational domains, including in urban environments. In terms of the self and service network, so far we have 420 new house, new space and pop-up stores in 143 cities and 34 service centers, as well as 58 delivery centers in 21 cities worldwide.
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Speaker 2: In the meantime, we also needed to understand the external challenges, especially the challenges and the pressure from the micro-economic environment.
In time, we also needed to understand that the external challenges, especially the challenges and the pressure from the microeconomic environment. So our fair costs down.
Speaker 2: So our fair cost and guidance have also considered that those external factors that overall speaking, we are confident in the delivery volumes we provided.
Also consider that ex those external factors, but overall speaking we are confident in the delivery volumes we are provided.
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Speaker 2: Premium battery electric vehicle segment priced over 300,000 RV. We have already realized 59% market share. This has pulled in a very solid food hold of new in this segment. And we will continue to make efforts in transforming and converting ICE users into buying EVs in the premium segments. In this case, we will also make one effort in spending our channels at touchpoint.
Premium battery electric vehicle segment priced over 300000 argue we have already realized 59% market share. This has pulled in a very solid foothold off Neil in.
In this segment and we will continue to make efforts in transforming and converting I say users into buying E. DS in the premium segment. In this case, we will also make more efforts in expanding our channels at the touch points.
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Speaker 1: The next question comes from Tim Hesayo of Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead.
Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
William Li: Since July, we have started to develop a new network of services in the city of NLP Plus. We have started to take a more active manner in expanding the user touch points and sales channels and enlarging the self-teen in China. This actions will further increase our self capabilities and the propelling self growth. As for the charging and sloping network, to date, we have installed 1,000,000 systems in the city of NLP Plus in the city of NLP Plus in the city of NLP Plus.
William Li: Since July, we have started to develop a new network of services in the city of NLP Plus. We have started to take a more active manner in expanding the user touch points and sales channels and enlarging the self-teen in China. This actions will further increase our self capabilities and the propelling self growth. As for the charging and sloping network, to date, we have installed 1,000,000 systems in the city of NLP Plus in the city of NLP Plus in the city of NLP Plus.
Speaker 7: Hi, thanks for taking my question. So my first question basically just want to follow up regarding the sales volume in just a second half. Because we're in just mention, we successfully upgraded our sales team and sales network. So we came to force quarter. I recall that we expect our multi sales can state about 20,000.
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Speaker 7: So if that's a case, look into fourth quarter. Should we expect Neo to grow the sales further to about 20,000 or even like 25,000? And what could it be contributions on the four ball and driving models covering like EG5, ES6? So could you just provide some update on ball and. And my second question is about the gross profit margin.
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Speaker 5: Because according to the measurements, previous guidance, I think the recall gross part margin could be to back to double digit in second half. So after the $30,000 big cost in May June .
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Speaker 3: Do you still stick to your previous view on sequential margin expansion into second half? What would be the pay-in in the quarter and fourth quarter respectively? That's my second question.
Do you still stick to your previous view on sequential margin expansion into second half what would be the pace at the quarter and fourth quarter, respectively. That's my second question. Thank you.
William Li: We have installed 747 power-swap stations worldwide and provided more than 27 million battery-swaps. Our Expressway battery-swap network in China consists of 476 swap stations along the 10 major expressways connecting 68 major cities. We have also deployed over 7,900 power chargers and 9,700 destination chargers. NLP has become the automotive brand with the most public chargers and the most chargers along Expressways in China. In the meantime, NLP Plus has connected with over 1.36 million third-party chargers worldwide.
William Li: We have installed 747 power-swap stations worldwide and provided more than 27 million battery-swaps. Our Expressway battery-swap network in China consists of 476 swap stations along the 10 major expressways connecting 68 major cities. We have also deployed over 7,900 power chargers and 9,700 destination chargers. NLP has become the automotive brand with the most public chargers and the most chargers along Expressways in China. In the meantime, NLP Plus has connected with over 1.36 million third-party chargers worldwide.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Tim. The first question. Our target is still the sales of each month is at 2,000,000. This is a service. This is our target. We are also doing Q4. This target is hard to get. From the current point of view, I have talked about our sales ability. Although the sales ability to prepare our sales ability is not only the current situation that the sales department is willing to do.
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William Li: On July 20th, we have started to use the battery-swap network-swap network to provide more battery-swap network-swap network with more information, on July 20th, NIO announced the flexible battery upgrade service by day, providing users with more options and fulfilling more use cases.
William Li: On July 20th, we have started to use the battery-swap network-swap network to provide more battery-swap network-swap network with more information, on July 20th, NIO announced the flexible battery upgrade service by day, providing users with more options and fulfilling more use cases.
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William Li: In July we organized the host city election for NIO Day 2023, and the city of CN was voted by new users as the host city this year. On August 20th, we partnered with Worldwide Fund for Nature and Gilean Mountain National Park in installing the world's first photovoltaic self-consumption system with V2G capability. It features solar power stations, V2G chargers and battery electric vehicles. Moreover, we initiated the Clean Parks Citizen Scientist program to engage more users and the public in conserving biodiversity and supporting the establishment of a volunteer system for national parks in hope of striving for a shared vision of blue skies.
William Li: In July we organized the host city election for NIO Day 2023, and the city of CN was voted by new users as the host city this year. On August 20th, we partnered with Worldwide Fund for Nature and Gilean Mountain National Park in installing the world's first photovoltaic self-consumption system with V2G capability. It features solar power stations, V2G chargers and battery electric vehicles. Moreover, we initiated the Clean Parks Citizen Scientist program to engage more users and the public in conserving biodiversity and supporting the establishment of a volunteer system for national parks in hope of striving for a shared vision of blue skies.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, team, for your question. Regarding your first question, of course, we target to realize and stabilize our monthly delivery to be about 20,000 units starting Q4 this year. But in the meantime, we are also preparing our resources to the ability so that we can support the new orders of 30,000 units per month.
Thank you team for your question regarding your first question of course, we target to real life and to stabilize our monthly delivery to be above 20 pharma units starting Q4 this year, but in the meantime, we are also preparing ourselves capability. So that we can support that then your orders of 30000 a unit per month.
Speaker 2: In this case, we are expanding our channels and also personnel. As mentioned, we will be occurring this initial capabilities by the end of September , and we will take some time for the preparation and the ramp up. We believe that the effect of our self-tribility improvement will be kicking in from October and November with positive progress from...
This case, we are expanding our channels and also our personnel as I've mentioned, we will be occurring this initial capabilities by the end of September and we will take some time for the preparation and the ramp up we believe that the effect of our self capability improvement will be kicking in from October and November.
William Li: In July, NIO received the strategic equity investment from Simon Holdings and investment vehicle majorly owned by the Abu Dhabi government. The investment package totalled 1.1 billion US dollars. In addition, we will also cooperate with the new strategic investor to jointly pursue opportunities in our international business. Although the smart EV market is full of challenges and the competition is increasingly feared with our continuous efforts in core technologies, project portfolio, self-cababilities, manufacturing and logistics, we are fully ready to rise to the challenge. We believe that with focused marketing and self-strategy as well as execution, NIO can drive the static growth of self and the deliveries, well further optimizing the cost structure and enhancing operating efficiency on all fronts.
William Li: In July, NIO received the strategic equity investment from Simon Holdings and investment vehicle majorly owned by the Abu Dhabi government. The investment package totalled 1.1 billion US dollars. In addition, we will also cooperate with the new strategic investor to jointly pursue opportunities in our international business. Although the smart EV market is full of challenges and the competition is increasingly feared with our continuous efforts in core technologies, project portfolio, self-cababilities, manufacturing and logistics, we are fully ready to rise to the challenge. We believe that with focused marketing and self-strategy as well as execution, NIO can drive the static growth of self and the deliveries, well further optimizing the cost structure and enhancing operating efficiency on all fronts.
With the positive progress from that time point in terms of the reference to the N. Two wind projects will be experienced normally we would like that able to it will take around one to two years for the new product to reach a sound and stable volume on a monthly basis for example for our first generation, yes six towards launching.
Speaker 2: In terms of the reference to the NT1 project with experience normally, we realize that it will take around one to two years for the new project to reach a sound and a stable volume on the monthly basis. For example, for our first generation, yes, six, it was launched in 2019 and it was not until 2021 that it has a rather stable and sound monthly delivery. So we are very confident with our new products. In terms of the volume projects including ET5, ET5.
2019, and it was not until 2021 that it has a rather stable and modestly delivery. So we are very confident with our new products in terms of the volume products, including E. T. Five E. Two five T. Yes. It takes on it you said six this are for water and products for the Easter sucks it won't be if there's ever it starts.
Speaker 2: Yes, six and E6, this are four volume products. For the E6, it will be delivered starting September and it will take some time for the production and the delivery ramp up. But within its own segment, it will be dominating the major market share. So with this four models combined, we believe that its monthly volume will be stabilized at around 15 to 20,000 units.
In September and it will take some time before the production and delivery ramp up but one thing is on Sacramento, which won't be dominating the major market share. So what this score models combined we believe that it's mostly volume will be stabilized at around 15 to 20000 units in terms of higher a higher service part.
Speaker 2: In terms of higher, a higher serious product like UC7, E27, yes, seven, SOS, yes eight, we are expecting also increments on their self-volume.
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Yeah, Hi, Tim regarding the gross profit margin are showing a year over our Q2 financials are the vehicle margin a 6.2% similar with Q1. The key reasons are are the sales and production volume at a lower level are driving a higher man.
Speaker 8: Yeah, hi team, regarding the growth growth margin. As shown in our Q2 financials, the vehicle margin is 6.2%. Similar with Q1. The key reasons are sales and production volume at lower level, driving higher manufacturing cost and other cost allocation, and also more promotions to the users and also marketing efforts, during the production transition.
William Li: We look forward to new strong market performance in the second half. As always, thank you for your support.
William Li: We look forward to new strong market performance in the second half.
William Li: As always, thank you for your support.
Steven Feng: With that, I will now turn the call over to Steven, who will provide the financial details for the second quarter. Over to you, Steven. Thank you, Rui Chen.
Steven Feng: With that, I will now turn the call over to Steven, who will provide the financial details for the second quarter. Over to you, Steven. Thank you, Rui Chen.
Do you factor in cost and other cost allocation and also more promotions to the users and also marketing efforts.
Steven Feng: I will now go over our key and I will resolve for the second quarter of the industry and to remind for the lens of Paul as a reference to R&B only in my discussion today. I encourage listeners to refer to our audience press release, which is posted online for additional details. Our total revenues in technical quarter were 8.8 Bin R&B represented the craze of 40.8% over a year and a decrease of 70.8% the quarter of quarter.
Steven Feng: I will now go over our key and I will resolve for the second quarter of the industry and to remind for the lens of Paul as a reference to R&B only in my discussion today. I encourage listeners to refer to our audience press release, which is posted online for additional details. Our total revenues in technical quarter were 8.8 Bin R&B represented the craze of 40.8% over a year and a decrease of 70.8% the quarter of quarter.
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But along with our sales and volume ramp up of our all other MTT product Oh, we're targeting to achieve the double digit gross profit margin in Q3, and a 15% in Q4, if we can control the.
Speaker 3: Our target to achieve the double digit growth profile margin in Q3 and 15% in Q4 if we can control the battery cost and and other cost well, so Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So we have already digested the impact of the
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Steven Feng: Our total revenue was made up two parts, vehicle sales and other sales. Vehicle sales in technical quarter were 7.2 Bin R&B represented the craze of 24.9% the over a year and 22.1% the quarter of quarter. The decrease in vehicle sales the over a year was made due to lower average selling price, the result of higher proportion of the five and 75 kilowatt hour standard range battery pack deliveries and the craze in delivery volume.
Steven Feng: Our total revenue was made up two parts, vehicle sales and other sales. Vehicle sales in technical quarter were 7.2 Bin R&B represented the craze of 24.9% the over a year and 22.1% the quarter of quarter. The decrease in vehicle sales the over a year was made due to lower average selling price, the result of higher proportion of the five and 75 kilowatt hour standard range battery pack deliveries and the craze in delivery volume.
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Speaker 1: The next question comes from you, Condeing of HSCC. Please go ahead.
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Speaker 9: Thanks, Dean. You can hear I got two. First question is, we practically have all the models are now refraggin' and then really launched a bit on 2.0 platform. Eight model is the pretty comprehensive coverage. We will be expecting strong ramp up in a coming six months in a visible way, but how do we expect the key growth drivers, if we're looking at 12 to 18 months, especially in terms of new product? How do we feeling the already comprehensive portfolio or the software going to be with the next like a growth?
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Steven Feng: The decrease in vehicle sales quarter of a quarter was made due to a decrease in delivery volume. Other sales, the second quarter were 1.6 billion R&B represented the craze of 1.19% the over a year and 3% the quarter of a quarter. The increase in other sales the over a year was a minute due to the increase in sales of use cars, accessories and provisional power solutions. The result of continuing the growth of our users.
Steven Feng: The decrease in vehicle sales quarter of a quarter was made due to a decrease in delivery volume. Other sales, the second quarter were 1.6 billion R&B represented the craze of 1.19% the over a year and 3% the quarter of a quarter. The increase in other sales the over a year was a minute due to the increase in sales of use cars, accessories and provisional power solutions. The result of continuing the growth of our users.
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Speaker 9: The second question is on the OPEX side. So this year we have new model launchers and we have the sales channel upgrade. But next year, when we're rolling to next year, could we see the absolute OPEX value dial down a little bit?
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Steven Feng: The increase in other sales quarter of a quarter was made due to the increase in sales of use cars and provisional power solutions as a result of continuing the growth of our users. Partially offset by the increase in revenue from provision of auto-financing subsidies. The growth margin second quarter of consumer three was 1.0%. Compare with 7.0% in the second quarter of consumer two and a 1.5% in the first quarter of consumer three.
Steven Feng: The increase in other sales quarter of a quarter was made due to the increase in sales of use cars and provisional power solutions as a result of continuing the growth of our users. Partially offset by the increase in revenue from provision of auto-financing subsidies. The growth margin second quarter of consumer three was 1.0%. Compare with 7.0% in the second quarter of consumer two and a 1.5% in the first quarter of consumer three.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Thank you, Yu Qian. The first question is, if we are in September , the 8-core product of NT2 has been launched.
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Steven Feng: Vehicle margins in the second quarter was 6.2%. Compare with 16.7% in the second quarter of consumer two and a 1.1% in the first quarter of consumer three. The decrease in vehicle margin over a year was many attributed to changes in product mix. Passed offset by the craze battery cost per unit. The increase in vehicle margin quarter quarter was a minute due to the craze promotion discount for the previous generation of S8, S6 and S6.
Steven Feng: Vehicle margins in the second quarter was 6.2%. Compare with 16.7% in the second quarter of consumer two and a 1.1% in the first quarter of consumer three. The decrease in vehicle margin over a year was many attributed to changes in product mix. Passed offset by the craze battery cost per unit. The increase in vehicle margin quarter quarter was a minute due to the craze promotion discount for the previous generation of S8, S6 and S6.
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Steven Feng: Our extension in second quarter was 3.3% in the R&B, which is an increase of 55.6% in the year over a year, an increase of 8.7% in the quarter of a quarter. The increase in research and development expenses over a year and a quarter of a quarter was actually to first, the increased personal cost. It already functions and increased share based conversation expenses. We are co-clarged in second quarter of the mystery. And second, the incremental design and development costs for new products and technologies.
Steven Feng: Our extension in second quarter was 3.3% in the R&B, which is an increase of 55.6% in the year over a year, an increase of 8.7% in the quarter of a quarter. The increase in research and development expenses over a year and a quarter of a quarter was actually to first, the increased personal cost. It already functions and increased share based conversation expenses. We are co-clarged in second quarter of the mystery. And second, the incremental design and development costs for new products and technologies.
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Steven Feng: S Genic Census in second quarter were to put non-mini-rb, represented an increase of 25.2% year over a year and increased up 16.8% a quarter of a quarter. The increase in S Genic Census over a year and a quarter of a quarter was primarily due to first, the increase in personal cost related to sales functions. Second, the increase in sales and marketing activities increased the launch of new products. Third, increased rental and related expenses, related company sales and service, low working expansion.
Steven Feng: S Genic Census in second quarter were to put non-mini-rb, represented an increase of 25.2% year over a year and increased up 16.8% a quarter of a quarter. The increase in S Genic Census over a year and a quarter of a quarter was primarily due to first, the increase in personal cost related to sales functions. Second, the increase in sales and marketing activities increased the launch of new products. Third, increased rental and related expenses, related company sales and service, low working expansion.
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Thank you for your question regarding your first question as you May know that starting from September we will launch our you said six into the market and where that's all it's models on the engine platforms will be launched into the market and over the past several months, we have launched a five brand new models plus a facelift them in.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your question. Regarding your first question, as you may know that starting from September , we will launch our EC6 into the market. And with that, all its models on the entity platforms will be launched to the market. And over the past several months, we have launched a five brand new models plus a phase lift. In such a short time frame, we are able to realize the high quality deliveries of this model has also demonstrated our R&D efficiency as well as the strong executions.
Such a short timeframe, we are able to realize the high quality delivery yourself. This model has also demonstrated our R&D efficiency as well as the striking that Houston, but in the meantime, we also need to realize that it's a challenge brought by the smart electric vehicles to the entire industry as in a very short timeframe, we needed to catch up to the changes of all the smart Tech.
Steven Feng: Plus, the operation in the second quarter was 6.1 bnrb, the increase in increase of 17.5% a year and increase of 18.8% a quarter of a quarter. Last, in the second quarter was 6.1 bnrb, the increase of 19.6% a year and increase of 27.8% a quarter of a quarter.
Steven Feng: Plus, the operation in the second quarter was 6.1 bnrb, the increase in increase of 17.5% a year and increase of 18.8% a quarter of a quarter. Last, in the second quarter was 6.1 bnrb, the increase of 19.6% a year and increase of 27.8% a quarter of a quarter.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, we also need to realize that it's a challenge brought by the smart electric vehicles to the entire industry. As in a very short time frame, we need to catch up to the changes of all the smart technology.
Apologies, but in the meantime, before all the entry to products. We're looking at more software features to be updated antibodies. For example, our new assistant and intelligence I'm driving for the coming months, we wont be rolling out some new features and also services. This will help us to improve the competitiveness of the project and also ask.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, for all the NG2 projects, we're looking at more self-worth features to be updated and released. For example, our new assisted and intelligence driving for the coming month, we will be rolling out some new features and also services. This will help us to improve the competitiveness of the project.
Steven Feng: Our batch of cash and cash equivalents, registered cash, short term investment and long term time deposits was 31.5 bnrb as of June 2030's 20th mystery.
Steven Feng: Our batch of cash and cash equivalents, registered cash, short term investment and long term time deposits was 31.5 bnrb as of June 2030's 20th mystery.
Speaker 2: And also, as we've mentioned, we are developing the self-tabability using side of the company so that we can reach out to broader channels with more self-persons and support the new orders of 30,000 units per month. This will also be a very concrete foundation for the continuous growth of the self and the deliveries in the coming months.
With my shouldn't we are developing the self capabilities inside of the company. So that we can reach out to broader channels, where some more self person.
Steven Feng: Now, this concludes our prepared remarks.
Steven Feng: Now, this concludes our prepared remarks.
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And the support that the new orders of 30000 units per month. This will also be a very concrete foundation for the continuous rolls off the south end of deliveries in the coming months. If you look at our eight models on the ante to a platform. They are already covering 80% of the needs in the premium market and.
Speaker 2: If you look at our eight models on the NT2 platform, they are already covering 80% of the needs in the premium market. And also, we have also adjusted our organizational structure starting from the third quarter, so that from the headquarters to the regional companies, we will be having dedicated teams managing and responsible for each of the model across the lifecycle. This is also the efforts we've made to really make the growth possible when you educate the customers at the producers and acquaintances first.
And also we have also adjusted our organizational structure starting from the third quarter. So that's from the headquarters to the original companies, we won't be having dedicated teams managing and a responsible for each of the model across the lifecycle. There's also this is also the efforts with made.
Ben Wong: And the first question will come from Ben Wong of Credit Suits. Please go ahead. Thank you.
Ben Wong: And the first question will come from Ben Wong of Credit Suits. Please go ahead. Thank you. My question about your sales network structure. Recently, I heard you hire a few of your sales persons from other luxury brands such as the BMW, Mercedes and Audi. So, what's the reason you hire a non-new sales person recently? And how is the impact so far for your sales model increase?
William Li: My question about your sales network structure. Recently, I heard you hire a few of your sales persons from other luxury brands such as the BMW, Mercedes and Audi. So, what's the reason you hire a non-new sales person recently? And how is the impact so far for your sales model increase?
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Hi regarding the Opex of a next year are you know are the next year are the budgets are for smoking ready. So at this moment I mean, not a be able to give you the precise number but I can give you some feeling.
Speaker 3: Hi, regarding the opax of next year, you know, the negative deposits for us has not been ready. So at this moment, I may not be able to give you the precise number, but I can give you some feeling regarding the R and D expense. As introduced in last quarter.
William Li: We also found that in your civil court guidance, you actually improv in the August and September, September will be lower compared to July. So, kind of what's the reason because any departure issue. Thank you so much.
Ben Wong: We also found that in your civil court guidance, you actually improv in the August and September, September will be lower compared to July. So, kind of what's the reason because any departure issue. Thank you so much.
Regarding the R&D expense Ah is introduced in last two quarters, our average AR each quarter. This year are the non-GAAP R&D investment will be RMB 3235 billing are for this year I think for next year are the.
Speaker 3: On average, each quarter of this year, the non-GAP R&D investment will be R&B 3.5 billion. For this year, I think for next year, we will keep similar like investment, investment R&D activities. And regarding the SGM,
Ah Ah Ah Ah, we will keep a similar like the investment our investment R&D activities and regarding the SG&A expense.
Speaker 3: explained by Willem we have the relatively more aggressive target for the second half this year I think.
Ah explained by William we have that are relatively more aggressive target for the second half of this year I think it should be for next year. So are the absolutely value for S. J will grew accordingly seems to be we need.
Speaker 3: should be for next year. So the absolute value for SGA will go accordingly since we need more market activities and events.
William Li: [inaudible] of the theme of the theme The second question is, if we look at the value of the value, 7月份 we have already paid over 2,000, but if we look at the value of the value, 8月份, 9月份 and 7月份, there are some differences in the number of numbers. [inaudible] we believe that it will take some time for the order momentum and intakes to be back to the normal track, but in the meantime, in August, we've also witnessed the new high of the numbers of passage drives, at least.
William Li: [inaudible] of the theme of the theme The second question is, if we look at the value of the value, 7月份 we have already paid over 2,000, but if we look at the value of the value, 8月份, 9月份 and 7月份, there are some differences in the number of numbers. [inaudible] we believe that it will take some time for the order momentum and intakes to be back to the normal track, but in the meantime, in August, we've also witnessed the new high of the numbers of passage drives, at least.
More market activities and our events, but the percentage of our total sales revenue I think we will decline compared to compared with the first half of this year and also the whole I think the whole year 'twenty 'twenty.
Speaker 3: But the percentage of total sales revenue, I think, will decline compared with the first half of this year and also the whole year of 2023. Because of the improvements in both the delivery volume and also operating efficiency.
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The next question comes from Josh Chan of Citi. Please go ahead.
Speaker 1: The next question comes from Jess Chong of City. Please go ahead.
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Speaker 10: Any halido, I have two questions. First question is our refinancing plan going forward. And the second question is our cash flow projection into the third quarter and fourth quarter. So why I am asking this.
Hello, I have two questions first question is our refinancing plans going forward.
And the second question is.
Our cash flows our projections into the third quarter and fourth quarter. So why I'm asking this.
Speaker 10: because we saw the first quarter, the net cash outflow was 10.6 billion.
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Speaker 10: but improved to a cash outflow of $5.9 billion in the second quarter.
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Speaker 5: And within the same quarter, we also saw the inventory Q&A Delta of around 5 billion.
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Speaker 5: while the account receivable remains stable. So that said, if the third quarter inventory came down, plus an operating leverage with a volume hike, whether we should see the cash outflow should be significantly narrowing further. This is my first question.
While the account payable account receivable remains stable.
So that said if the third quarter the inventory came down.
The operating loss ratio with a volume hike, whether we should see the cash outflow should be significantly narrowing further. This is my first question.
Speaker 5: My second question is about the third quarter and fourth quarter GP margin guidance. When can we return to a 10 percent of the budget level as well as the third quarter, fourth quarter, S-GNA as a percentage of the revenue guidance. That's all from me. Thank you.
And my second question is about the third quarter and fourth quarter G. P margin guidance.
When can we return to a 10% or double digit level.
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Speaker 3: Regarding the cash flow and also the refinancing plans, I think several points about this. When is regarding all purchasing cash flow? I think as the delivery volume ramp up from Q3 this year, our all purchasing cash flow will be significantly improved compared with Q1 and Q2 of this year.
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Cash flow and also the refinancing plans I think Ah Ah Ah Ah Ah several points about this one is oh approaching cash flow I think as the delivery world and wrap up from Q3. This year, our approaching cash flow will be significantly improved.
Compared with Q1 and Q2 of this year.
Speaker 3: And we also carried out a series of measures to control the cat-backed investment and also manage the other investment cadence presently like delay or cancel of certain cat-backed investment.
And we also carried out a series of measures to control the capex investments at all.
Also manage the investment cadence per density like delay okay. So a certain type of investments are this will also help us to manage are not in the house healthy cash flow.
Speaker 3: This will also help us to manage the healthy cash flow. And additionally, as explained in Williams.
Additionally, our plants are in Williams comments, we received a seven points.
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Speaker 3: And regarding the financing plan, we will disclose our plan accordingly if there is any capital market-related updates. But at this moment, I think we don't have the precise information to comment with you.
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Speaker 3: And for SGA guidance, I think the absolute value will grow, along with our delivery volume and sales growth, but the percentage...
And for SG&A guidance Ah I think see a absolute value will will will grow along with other delivery volume and sales growth, but the as percentage of total revenue.
Speaker 3: for total revenue will decrease. But according to the market situation, the adjustment and change of our marketing strategy will be quite dynamic. So at this moment, I cannot give you any precise guidance about the percentage of S-P-A-A over sales revenue.
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Speaker 5: Thank you. Just a correction here. I mentioned the inventory Q-on-Q. Delta was a five billion, which was wrong. I just checked that the Q-on-Q Delta was only two billion. That's it from my side. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank you just just a correction here I mentioned, our inventory Q on Q. So it was a 5 billion, which was wrong I'll just check the Q on Q. There was only 2 billion. That's it from my side. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: The next question comes from Ming Hun Lee of Bank of America. Please go ahead.
The next question comes from Min Li of Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Gwan-ni. So I have two questions. The first question is, currently you have eight products to cover the majority of the luxury car segment. So could you give more guidance on any of the new product plant next year, under the new brand as well as the Albus brand?
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William Li: Average speaking on during the weekends, we have more than 10,000 test drives. This represents significant growth from the past month. And in the meantime, we also understand that it will take some time for the test drive to be truly converted into orders. And we will wait for that, but over speaking, we are very confident in civilizing the order intake as well as the delivery volume. In the meantime, we also needed to understand the external challenges, especially the challenges and the pressure from the micro-economic environment.
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William Li: So our fair cost and guidance have also considered those external factors that overall speaking, we are confident in the delivery volumes we provided. Also, we must understand that in July, inside of the premium battery electric vehicle segment priced over 300,000 RMB, we have already realized 59 percent market share. This has pulled in a very solid foothold of NIO in this segment, and we will continue to make efforts in transforming and converting ICE users into buying EVs in the premium segment. In this case, we will also make more efforts in expanding our channels at touchpoint. Thank you, Wang Bi. Thank you.
William Li: So our fair cost and guidance have also considered those external factors that overall speaking, we are confident in the delivery volumes we provided. Also, we must understand that in July, inside of the premium battery electric vehicle segment priced over 300,000 RMB, we have already realized 59 percent market share. This has pulled in a very solid foothold of NIO in this segment, and we will continue to make efforts in transforming and converting ICE users into buying EVs in the premium segment. In this case, we will also make more efforts in expanding our channels at touchpoint. Thank you, Wang Bi. Thank you.
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Tim Hsiao: The next question comes from Tim Hesayo of Morgan family. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my question. So my first question basically just want to follow up regarding sales volume in just a second half, because we have just mentioned we successfully upgraded our sales team and sales network. So we came to force quarter. I recall that we expect our monthly sales can state about 20,000. So if that's a case, look into fourth quarter.
Tim Hsiao: The next question comes from Tim Hesayo of Morgan family. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my question. So my first question basically just want to follow up regarding sales volume in just a second half, because we have just mentioned we successfully upgraded our sales team and sales network. So we came to force quarter. I recall that we expect our monthly sales can state about 20,000. So if that's a case, look into fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Just like in 2021, we didn't launch any new models, but still we have realized a very good growth margin, self-volume as well as quality performance.
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Tim Hsiao: Should we expect NIO to grow the sales further to about 20,000, or even like 25,000? And what particular contributions on the four volume driving models covering like ED5, ES6? So could you just provide some update on the volume?
Tim Hsiao: Should we expect NIO to grow the sales further to about 20,000, or even like 25,000? And what particular contributions on the four volume driving models covering like ED5, ES6? So could you just provide some update on the volume?
Speaker 2: So that's the plan for the brand of NEO. In terms of our mass market brand, Alps, we plan to launch the very first model from Alps in the second half of next year. Right now the R&D activities are proceeding according to the plan. Actually, we have just the road out the verification build of the first model from Alps. And this model will be highly competitive in its project segments.
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Speaker 2: just like Mercedes and BMW in China, they're selling 40, 15 models. That is a unique capture of the premium segment.
Speaker 2: But for ELP, for the mass market, it will be more family oriented and we will also care more on the self-volume of each model launched by ELP. In terms of our phone business, our mobile phone will be developed mainly for our new users, especially the users of our NT2 products. And the phone results is developed centering on vehicles, but with better mobility and connectivity experience.
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Speaker 1: The next question comes from Paul Gong of UBS. Please go ahead.
The next question comes from Paul Gong of UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker 13: Thanks for taking my questions. So two questions here. The first questions regarding the self-channel. You mentioned that you are going to expand it. You fail it behind of the BMW methods and in terms of the the channel as well as a self-person. But how does it compare to other EV startups? How much do you think about the extension of the?
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Yuqian Ding: [inaudible] The next question comes from Yuqian Ding of HSCC. Please go ahead. Thanks, Dean. Yuqian here. I got two. The first question is, we practically have all the models on our refraction and then really launched a bit on 2.0.5. The model is a pretty comprehensive coverage. We will be expecting strong ramp up in the coming six months in a visible way. But how do we expect the key growth drivers, if we're looking at 12 to 18 months, especially in terms of new products?
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Speaker 2: If you look at the size of the South teams in comparison to other EV startups in China, actually by the end of June , the size of our South team is only half of those of other companies.
William Li: In addition, if we talk about it, our sales ability will expand. We hope that we can, for example, go through 3,000 sales capabilities to prevent us from going to the river and the south. These things can also bring a good foundation for our future growth. So, if we look at it, we have already paid the basic cost of this high-end market, 80% of such a user demand. Now, we need to do something very important.
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Speaker 2: So for the service and the community part, we have a bigger team than other EV startups, but when it comes to the actual salesperson, in our company we call them fellows, in terms of the number of fellows, we are actually have a much smaller team than all the other companies in the industry.
William Li: So, if we look at it, we have already paid the basic cost of this high-end market, 80% of such a user demand. Now, we need to do something very important. The task is that we have completed a organization, and we need to take every car from the whole area to the region. We need to have our team to take every car to the market. This is also a very important information of our sales ability. Thank you for your question.
In our company, we call them silos in terms of the number of Fellows. We are actually have a much smaller team that all the other companies in the industry in April and in May This year, our delivery volume was not very high.
Speaker 2: In April and May this year, our delivery volume was not very high.
William Li: The task is that we have completed a organization, and we need to take every car from the whole area to the region. We need to have our team to take every car to the market. This is also a very important information of our sales ability. Thank you for your question.
Speaker 2: By then, we didn't really realize the importance of the self capabilities or taking any actions. But starting from June , as we ramped up our delivery volumes, we gradually realized that the insufficient self-teams has affected the satisfaction and also the executions of many things, including test drives and also order conversions. That's why starting from July , we have started to develop our self channels as well as the self teams.
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William Li: Regarding your first question, as you may know that starting from September, we will launch our EC6 into the market, and with that, all its models on the NT2 platforms will be launched to the market. And over the past several months, we have launched a five brand new models plus a facelift. In such a short time frame, we are able to realize the high quality deliveries of this model has also demonstrated our R&D efficiency as well as the strong execution.
William Li: Regarding your first question, as you may know that starting from September, we will launch our EC6 into the market, and with that, all its models on the NT2 platforms will be launched to the market. And over the past several months, we have launched a five brand new models plus a facelift. In such a short time frame, we are able to realize the high quality deliveries of this model has also demonstrated our R&D efficiency as well as the strong execution.
Speaker 2: In for comparison to ramp up to the comparable sites, we believe that we need around 5,000 people working on the self-teen. But of course, it take time for us to have that many people on the team and also to train them with the corresponding capabilities.
Oh, yeah for comparison to ramp up to the comparable sites Oh, we believe that we need around 5000 people working on the south team, but of course, it take time for us to have that many people on the team and also to train them with the corresponding capabilities in terms of searching every volume Inc.
Speaker 2: In terms of the delivery volume in July , we have delivered more than 20,000 cars, but that demonstrated our capability in terms of the deliveries, which is relatively easier than realizing self-capability.
Since July we have delivered more than 20000 cars, but that demonstrated our capability in terms of the deliveries, which is relatively easier than real lysine south capabilities.
William Li: But in the meantime, we also need to realize that it's a challenge brought by the smart electric vehicles to the entire industry. As in a very short time frame, we need to catch up to the changes of all the smart technologies. But in the meantime, for all the NT2 projects, we're looking at more soft work features to be updated and released. For example, our new assisted and intelligence driving. For the coming month, we will be rolling out some new features and also services.
William Li: But in the meantime, we also need to realize that it's a challenge brought by the smart electric vehicles to the entire industry. As in a very short time frame, we need to catch up to the changes of all the smart technologies. But in the meantime, for all the NT2 projects, we're looking at more soft work features to be updated and released. For example, our new assisted and intelligence driving. For the coming month, we will be rolling out some new features and also services.
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William Li: This will help us to improve the competitiveness of the project. And also, as we've mentioned, we are developing the self-tabability inside of the company so that we can reach out to broader channels with some more self-persons and support the new orders of 30,000 units per month. This will also be a very concrete foundation for the continuous growth of the cells and the deliveries in the coming month. If you look at our eight models on the NT2 platform, they are already covering 80% of the needs in the premium market.
William Li: This will help us to improve the competitiveness of the project. And also, as we've mentioned, we are developing the self-tabability inside of the company so that we can reach out to broader channels with some more self-persons and support the new orders of 30,000 units per month. This will also be a very concrete foundation for the continuous growth of the cells and the deliveries in the coming month. If you look at our eight models on the NT2 platform, they are already covering 80% of the needs in the premium market.
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William Li: And also, we have also adjusted our organizational structure starting from the third quarter so that from the headquarters to the regional companies, we will be having dedicated teams managing and responsible for each of the model across the lifecycle. This is also the efforts we've made from the self and marketing perspective.
William Li: And also, we have also adjusted our organizational structure starting from the third quarter so that from the headquarters to the regional companies, we will be having dedicated teams managing and responsible for each of the model across the lifecycle. This is also the efforts we've made from the self and marketing perspective.
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Steven Feng: Hi, you can. Regarding the impacts of next year, you know, the next year, the budget for us has not been ready. So at this moment, I may not be able to give you the precise number, but I can give you some feeling. Regarding the R&D spends as introduced in last quarters, on average, each quarter this year, the non-GAP R&D investment will be R&B 3.5 billing. For this year, I think for next year, we will keep similar like investment R&D activities.
Steven Feng: Hi, you can. Regarding the impacts of next year, you know, the next year, the budget for us has not been ready. So at this moment, I may not be able to give you the precise number, but I can give you some feeling. Regarding the R&D spends as introduced in last quarters, on average, each quarter this year, the non-GAP R&D investment will be R&B 3.5 billing. For this year, I think for next year, we will keep similar like investment R&D activities.
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Speaker 2: And another thing is about the channels. If you look at our source distribution, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, and Shanghai, these three places basically contribute half of our sales volume. But for other provinces like in Anhui, the capital city itself is contributing around 80% to 90% of the sales volume. If we take Anhui as an example, for other brands like BMW or Mercedes, half of their sales volume in Anhui province, we are going to have a lot of sales volume.
And another thing is about the channels. If you look at our self distribution junk food youre down on the Shanghai. This sort of places basically contributed half off ourselves volumes at four other provinces like in outweighed the capital C. Tiede felt this country the team around 80% to 90% of the South ballroom.
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Steven Feng: And regarding the SGA spends explained by Willem, we have relatively more aggressive sales target for the second half of this year. I think it should be for next year. So the absolute value for SGA will grow accordingly since we need more market activities and events but the percentage of total sales revenue I think will decline compared with the first half of this year and also the whole year of 2023 because of the improvements in both delivery volume and also operating efficiency.
Steven Feng: And regarding the SGA spends explained by Willem, we have relatively more aggressive sales target for the second half of this year. I think it should be for next year. So the absolute value for SGA will grow accordingly since we need more market activities and events but the percentage of total sales revenue I think will decline compared with the first half of this year and also the whole year of 2023 because of the improvements in both delivery volume and also operating efficiency.
Speaker 2: And for us, we've just opened our new house in the second largest city in annual problem that is in Wuku. In this case, we really need to take efforts in increasing our panel tritians into the lower tier cities.
In this case, we will need to take efforts in increasing our penetration into the lower tier cities are in addition to the south channels. We are also developing and expanding our power swap networks into more cities for the past several months looping our we've been developing our power swap stations in a much faster manner.
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Speaker 2: In addition to the South channels, we are also developing and expanding our power swap networks into more cities.
Speaker 2: For the past several months, we've been developing our power swap stations in a much faster manner. And in August , we expect that we will deploy and install more than 100 power swap stations. Of course, it will take time for all these measures to take in, but this investment will be very important for our launch.
In August we expect that we will deploy and install more than 100 power swap stations of course, it will take time for all of their smashes to picking up that this investment will be very important for our long term capability Tiago and can you just one then.
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Joseph Chong: The next question comes from Joseph Chong of City. Please go ahead. I have two questions. First question is our refinancing plan going forward. And the second question is our cash flow projection into the third quarter and fourth quarter. So why I am asking this is because we saw the first quarter. The net cash outflow was 10.6 billion, but improved to a cash outflow of 5.9 billion in the second quarter. And within the second quarter, we also saw the inventory Q and Q delta of around 5 billion.
Joseph Chong: The next question comes from Joseph Chong of City. Please go ahead. I have two questions. First question is our refinancing plan going forward. And the second question is our cash flow projection into the third quarter and fourth quarter. So why I am asking this is because we saw the first quarter. The net cash outflow was 10.6 billion, but improved to a cash outflow of 5.9 billion in the second quarter. And within the second quarter, we also saw the inventory Q and Q delta of around 5 billion. So that said, if the third quarter inventory came down plus an operating leverage with a volume hike, whether we should see the cash outflow should be significantly narrowing further. This is my first question.
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Joseph Chong: So that said, if the third quarter inventory came down plus an operating leverage with a volume hike, whether we should see the cash outflow should be significantly narrowing further. This is my first question. And my second question is about the third quarter and fourth quarter GP margin guidance. When can we return to a 10% of the digit level as well as the third quarter, fourth quarter SGNA as a percentage over revenue guidance.
Regarding those that kind of question about power swap paying versus faster charging them as we've always mentioned that the charter boat Swappable and Upgradable have been the philosophy of our power solutions and the west being choosing the optimal solutions and also the past experience for our users based on the actual.
Speaker 2: Regarding your second question about power swapping versus faster charging. As we've always mentioned that chargeable, swappable, and upgradeable have been the philosophy of our power solutions. And with being choosing the optimal solutions and also the best experience for our users, based on the actual scenarios and the use cases.
Joseph Chong: And my second question is about the third quarter and fourth quarter GP margin guidance. When can we return to a 10% of the digit level as well as the third quarter, fourth quarter SGNA as a percentage over revenue guidance. That's all from me. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: And as we are developing our power swapping network, we are also the automotive brand with the most public chargers in China, as I've mentioned in my opening remarks.
And as we are developing a repower swapping network. We are also the automotive brand with the most of the public Chargers in China as I've mentioned in my opening remark of course, we believe that with the development of the fast charging technology will also help us with the power swap operations at as if kind of improve the service.
Speaker 2: Of course, we believe that with the development of the first charging technology, it will also help us with the power swap operations at this kind of improved service capacity of these swap stations. Not to mention that many of the stations we've installed as of today are integrated stations featuring both chargers as well as power swap.
Joseph Chong: That's all from me. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Jeff. I think about this one is regarding operating cash flow. I think as the delivery volume wrap up from Q3 this year, our operating cash flow will be significantly improved compared with Q1 and Q2 of this year. And we also carried out a series of measures to control the cat-backed investment and also manage the other investment cadence, presently like delay or cancel certain cat-backed investment.
Paucity of the swap stations not to mention that many of the stations we've installed as of today, our integrated stations featuring pulse charters as well as power swap.
Speaker 2: So in terms of the power swapping and the faster charging we've also had the many discussions between those two technologies, but we believe that so far power swapping is still having a much better experience than faster charging and it will continue to be a very unique advantage and competitiveness of new.
So in some sense the para swapping and faster charging we've also had many discussions between those two technologies, but we believe that so far how we're swapping and so you are having a much better experience than faster charging and it will continue to be a very unique advantage and the competitiveness of new.
Steven Feng: Okay. Thank you, Jeff. I think about this one is regarding operating cash flow. I think as the delivery volume wrap up from Q3 this year, our operating cash flow will be significantly improved compared with Q1 and Q2 of this year. And we also carried out a series of measures to control the cat-backed investment and also manage the other investment cadence, presently like delay or cancel certain cat-backed investment. This will also help us to manage the health healthy cash flow and additionally, as explained in Williams comments, we received 7.740 million US dollars strategic investment from CYVN.
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Speaker 1: The next question comes from Jing Cheng of CIC. Please go ahead.
The next question comes from Joon Chang of Ci D. C. Please go ahead.
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Speaker 6: our other sales revenue and the profit margin. As we can see that after our policy adjustment, what is our expectation for the future revenue and also profit margin for other sales.
Joseph Chong: This will also help us to manage the health healthy cash flow and additionally, as explained in Williams comments, we received 7.740 million US dollars strategic investment from CYVN. And we also completed the offering of our first off balance sheet, EBS in Q3. I think both our US dollar and also RMB financing channels, we meet on obstructive and all those will enable us to keep healthy cash, cash position and support the ongoing business development of the company.
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Speaker 6: after our battery swap started to gain profit. And in particular, do we have any internal calculation of the profitability of the battery swapping business?
Steven Feng: And we also completed the offering of our first off balance sheet, EBS in Q3. I think both our US dollar and also RMB financing channels, we meet on obstructive and all those will enable us to keep healthy cash, cash position and support the ongoing business development of the company. And regarding the financing, refinancing plan, we will disclose our plan accordingly if there is any capital market related updates. But at this moment, I think we don't have the precise information to comment with you. That's the first question regarding the cash flow and also refinancing plan.
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So what is the upward trend of our gross profit margin.
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Speaker 6: technology improvement. We have always been focused on R&D investment and also technology accumulation, so looking forward regarding to our next generation platform and this rate. So what's improvement can we expect or what are the major areas of our effort to so can you just share a few insights on the formation of that? This is my two questions.
Joseph Chong: And regarding the financing, refinancing plan, we will disclose our plan accordingly if there is any capital market related updates. But at this moment, I think we don't have the precise information to comment with you. That's the first question regarding the cash flow and also refinancing plan. Second is for this year's margin. Yeah. For this year's margin, I think we have explained in the previous questions. And for Q3, our target is to achieve the double digits, cross-proc margin and Q4 is 15%, and for SGA guidance, I think the absolute value will grow along with our delivery volume and sales growth, but it's percentage of total revenue will decrease.
Regarding to our next generation platform and suite. So what improvement can we expect Oh, what what are the major areas of our effort.
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Steven Feng: Second is for this year's margin. Yeah. For this year's margin, I think we have explained in the previous questions. And for Q3, our target is to achieve the double digits, cross-proc margin and Q4 is 15%, and for SGA guidance, I think the absolute value will grow along with our delivery volume and sales growth, but it's percentage of total revenue will decrease. But according to the market situation, the adjustment and change of our market strategy will be quite dynamic, so at this moment, I cannot give you any precise guidance about the percentage of SGA over sales revenue. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you.
Speaker 8: Hi, this is Danny regarding your first question about the other other sales revenue and the margin As I mentioned we can saw the free battery swap policies In Q3 so therefore there will be more users to pay for battery swap service
Hi, Jami. This is Danny regarding your first question about the other other shows revenue and margin.
As he mentioned we can store the free battery swap policies are in Q3. So therefore, there will be more users to pay for battery swap services.
Speaker 8: And as the sales keep growing, we think more battery self service revenue can be realized. But you know, since it's only one month from the policy adjustments, so we still need some time to observe and assess the impact of this policy change. And second.
And as the sales keep growing Oh, we think more battery self service revenue can be realized.
But since it's only one month from the policy adjustments. So we still need some time to observe and assess the impact of this policy change.
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Speaker 3: With the power swap station, the third generation put into operation starting from this April , we will accelerate the deployment of the power swap station in the following quarters. And for this year, our plan is to build 1,000 stations. But at current stage, the capacity
Joseph Chong: But according to the market situation, the adjustment and change of our market strategy will be quite dynamic, so at this moment, I cannot give you any precise guidance about the percentage of SGA over sales revenue. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. Just a correction here. I mentioned the inventory Q1Q Delta was a 5 billion, which was wrong. I just checked that the Q1Q Delta was only 2 billion. That's it from my side. Thank you. Thank you very much. Welcome.
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Steven Feng: Just a correction here. I mentioned the inventory Q1Q Delta was a 5 billion, which was wrong. I just checked that the Q1Q Delta was only 2 billion. That's it from my side. Thank you.
Unknown Executive: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 3: So I think that's basically the guidance for the other sales revenue. Yeah.
So I think that's the basically the guidance for the other sales revenue.
Ming Han Lee: The next question comes from Ming Han Lee of Bank of America. Please question. Currently, you have eight products to cover the majority of the luxury car segment. So could you give more guidance on any of the new product plans next year under the new brand as well as the Alpus brand? And the second question is what is your latest business progress for the mobile business? Thank you. Thank you, Ming. Ming Han Lee of the brand will not offer new products, but we will have a few years to change the products.
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I'm actually the inherent efficiency of the power swap business is pretty high before we have an active margin on this part it's mainly because when we were offering spray para swaps. The electricity costs were also included in that offering and now we are charging that separately and in addition, we are also charging our sorts of 30 RMB per swap as a service.
Speaker 2: Actually, the inherent efficiency of the power swap business is pretty high. Before, we have negative margin on this part. It's mainly because when we were offering free power swaps, the electricity costs were also included in that offering. But now we are charging that separately. In addition, we are also charging our users 30 RMB per swap as the service fee. Actually, we are seeing growing demand for such charged power swap services, especially many used car users.
And actually we are seeing growing demand for such charged power swap services, especially many used car users. They are they are actually using that service. So the percentage for the users to use to pay our swap service is also growing its business for the existing users and existing population.
William Li: But the Alpus, our Matthew Mark Brann, in the next half a year, we will have this baby car. We have already seen it. The current development progress is very important. This car is very close to the Alpus. We believe that it is very Thank you for your question.
William Li: But the Alpus, our Matthew Mark Brann, in the next half a year, we will have this baby car. We have already seen it. The current development progress is very important. This car is very close to the Alpus. We believe that it is very Thank you for your question.
Speaker 2: They are actually using this service, so the percentage for the users to use the paid swap service is also growing. It's meaning of business for the existing users and existing population.
Speaker 2: For the third generation power swap stations, we've also done a rough calculation. When it completes 60 swaps per day, it basically can be breaking even. And its service revenues will be covering its operating costs.
For the third generation power swap stations, we've also thought it rough calculation when it completes fixture swaps per day basically can be breaking even and its service revenue was going to be covering its operating costs right now around the 20% of our starting to generation stations are able to realize such a couple of months and capability. So for the long run with them.
Speaker 2: Right now around 20% of our certain generation stations are able to realize such proponents and capability. So for the long run, we believe that PowerSwap is also a sustainable business. And in addition to offering PowerSwap services, we also have other diversified business models like we can leverage the energy storage.
William Li: For new brand, actually, we don't plan to launch any new products in the year of 2024. Of course, we will still roll out some routine sales leads or product upgrades, but we haven't planned any new products for next year, because we think that it's more important for us to stay focused on our existing eight products on the NT2 platform to continuously improve its qualities and also market performance. Just like in 2021, we didn't launch any new models, but still we have realized a very good growth margin, sales volume as well as quality performance. So that's the plan for the brand of NIO.
William Li: For new brand, actually, we don't plan to launch any new products in the year of 2024. Of course, we will still roll out some routine sales leads or product upgrades, but we haven't planned any new products for next year, because we think that it's more important for us to stay focused on our existing eight products on the NT2 platform to continuously improve its qualities and also market performance. Just like in 2021, we didn't launch any new models, but still we have realized a very good growth margin, sales volume as well as quality performance. So that's the plan for the brand of NIO.
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William Li: In terms of our mass market brand, Alps, we plan to launch the very first model from Alps in the second half of next year. Right now, the R&D activities are proceeding according to the plan. Actually, we have just rolled out the verification build of the first model from Alps, and this model will be highly competitive in its project segment. [inaudible] Just like Mercedes and BMW in China, they are selling 40, 15 models.
William Li: In terms of our mass market brand, Alps, we plan to launch the very first model from Alps in the second half of next year. Right now, the R&D activities are proceeding according to the plan. Actually, we have just rolled out the verification build of the first model from Alps, and this model will be highly competitive in its project segment. [inaudible] Just like Mercedes and BMW in China, they are selling 40, 15 models.
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Speaker 2: Regarding your second question about our next generation technology.
Speaker 2: Of course, we will be leveraging our first deck capabilities developed in-house. With that, we will continue to improve the experience and also the performance of our projects. And we believe that this will give us a strong product competitiveness worldwide. And also, the continuous investment into the research and the development of the core technologies will also help us to optimize and improve the vehicle margin, as well as the efficiency of our operations and R&D.
From product competitiveness worldwide and also the continuous investment into the research and developments off the core technologies will also help us to optimize and improve the vehicle margin as well as improving the efficiencies of our operations and R&D.
Thank you Jim.
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you. That's all for my question. Thank you.
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That's all for my question. Thank you.
Speaker 1: The next question comes from Edison, you of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
The next question comes from Edison you of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker 7: I think you have one question. I'm wondering what is the management team's openness to embarking on some more strategic action?
I think you had one question I'm I'm wondering what is the management teams' openness to embarking on some more strategic actions.
Speaker 7: We've obviously seen a lot of activity from the European OEM in China trying to revive or restructure their efforts.
We've obviously seen a lot of activity from the European Oems and in China trying to revive or restructure their efforts.
Speaker 7: And I also think in the context of, I think NIO has made some some mistakes. You know, we talked a lot about sales, the sales force today. We had a lot of supply inches last year. Many of which are related actually to more traditional auto side. But we perhaps benefit actually from having some more closer strategic relationships with some of the, the only end up there. Thank you.
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William Li: That is a unique character of the premium segment. But for Alps, for the mass market, it will be more family oriented. And we will also care more on the sales volume of each model launched by Alps.
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William Li: In terms of our phone business, our mobile phone will be developed mainly for our new users, especially the users of our NT2 products. And the phone itself is developed centering on the vehicles, but with better mobility and connectivity experience, we are actually believing that with the phone business, it can help us to improve the competitiveness of our vehicle products, because our phone business is not to compete with those phone makers. Instead, we would like to use the phone as a carrier to provide the best experience of our vehicle users. Moreover, the underlying software and the underlying logic between the phone and the cars share quite a lot of similarities.
William Li: In terms of our phone business, our mobile phone will be developed mainly for our new users, especially the users of our NT2 products. And the phone itself is developed centering on the vehicles, but with better mobility and connectivity experience, we are actually believing that with the phone business, it can help us to improve the competitiveness of our vehicle products, because our phone business is not to compete with those phone makers. Instead, we would like to use the phone as a carrier to provide the best experience of our vehicle users. Moreover, the underlying software and the underlying logic between the phone and the cars share quite a lot of similarities.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Edison, for your question. All while speaking, we are very open to all kinds of corporations with the peers in the industry. But so far, we don't have much information to update. We're sure with you. But if you look at our smart technologies, as well as our charging and swapping networks, actually, we aim to use this technology to catalyze the transformation of the entire industry.
We used this technology to catalyze the transformation of the entire industry as we also announced at the power at day 2023, we are willing to open up our next generation battery technologies as well as our charging and swapping networks to the entire industry right now where in some initial communications.
Speaker 2: As we've also announced at the Power Day 2023, we are willing to open up our next generation battery technologies as well as our charging and swapping networks to the entire industry. Right now, we're in some initial communications with a certain OEM.
Paul Gong: In terms of the launch plan for the phone, we plan to introduce our first phone project in the second half, or in the late- The next question comes from Paul Gong of UBS, please go ahead. Thanks for taking my questions, so two questions here. The first question is regarding the self-channel. You mentioned that you are going to expand it, you fail it behind of the BMW methods and in terms of the channel as well as a self-person.
Paul Gong: In terms of the launch plan for the phone, we plan to introduce our first phone project in the second half, or in the late- The next question comes from Paul Gong of UBS, please go ahead. Thanks for taking my questions, so two questions here. The first question is regarding the self-channel. You mentioned that you are going to expand it, you fail it behind of the BMW methods and in terms of the channel as well as a self-person.
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Speaker 2: They are also thinking about using our battery technologies for swapping networks. But to use that technology, they need to adapt their products to our standards, which can take some time for them to make the final decisions. But overall speaking, we are very open to all kinds of
They are also thinking about using our battery technologies, we're swapping networks, but to use that technology, they need to adapt to their products to our standards, which can take some time for them to make the final decisions, but overall speaking we are very open to all kinds of populations that what's important to me to ask Susan that's out there today.
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Paul Gong: But how does it compare to other EV startups, how much do you think about the extension of the stock network and the self-personnel versus the self-efficiency improvements? And you also mentioned that you are going to reach 30,000 monthly self-capability. How does that compare to today? Is that fair to assume currently we have the capability to sell 20,000 monthly self-given will achieve that in July and the expanding would be about 50% compared to today to 30,000?
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Speaker 2: And in terms of our existing charging network, so far 80% of our electricity are actually charged for the non-new users.
Paul Gong: How does this mathematics work? This is my first question. The second question is regarding the battery swap versus fast charging given the battery, the semiconductors as well as even the charging piles, DC charging stations. All this seems to be rolling out with an industrial effort. I understand it's good to have both the battery swap as well as the fast charging, but would you consider the rolling out of the fast charging kind of weak and the battery swap convenience and the competitive edge of new cars?
Paul Gong: How does this mathematics work? This is my first question. The second question is regarding the battery swap versus fast charging given the battery, the semiconductors as well as even the charging piles, DC charging stations. All this seems to be rolling out with an industrial effort. I understand it's good to have both the battery swap as well as the fast charging, but would you consider the rolling out of the fast charging kind of weak and the battery swap convenience and the competitive edge of new cars?
Speaker 2: Maybe you've also got this news written in Xinjiang's Serum Lake, because it's such a popular tourist spot we have to limit access to our public chargers for the now new users at certain time frames and that costs some complaints by the now new users. But overall speaking is also a very good example showing our existing charging and and swapping facilities are helping many easy users, not just the users on the new.
Two our public Chargers for the now new users at a certain time frames and that caused some complaints by the now new users, but Oh speaking. It's also a very good example of showing already existing charging on a swapping facilities are helping many users not just to use or something else.
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Speaker 1: I'd say no further questions now. I'd like to turn the call back over to the company for any closing remarks.
As there are no further questions now I'd like to turn the call back over to the company for any closing remarks.
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Paul Gong: Thank you. Okay, thank you, Paul. Well, this is actually a problem, because in April and May, our sales speed is less, so we are actually not very fast at this time. Until June, after we started the car, we realized that the cost of the market and the cost of the market are all because of the human rights issue. We received a lot of influence from the efficiency of the industry, so we started from July.
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Paul Gong: Let's start with the real hands. Including the real hands. These are the elements of the door. This is actually what we are doing. So, whenever we talk about it, we think that we are going to reach about 5,000 people, and that's possible that now, compared to our relatively high levels of communication, it's almost like this. We still need some time to improve the quality of each person's level of communication. But when we see about 2,000 people in a number, it means that our efficiency has reached.
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Paul Gong: Because the efficiency of each person is better, but if it's actually from a relatively low level of communication, we are now able to achieve our plan. So, this is the current situation. Thank you for your questions. If you look at the size of the South Team's in comparison to other EV startups in China, actually by the end of June, the size of our South Team is only half of those of other companies.
Paul Gong: Because the efficiency of each person is better, but if it's actually from a relatively low level of communication, we are now able to achieve our plan. So, this is the current situation. Thank you for your questions. If you look at the size of the South Team's in comparison to other EV startups in China, actually by the end of June, the size of our South Team is only half of those of other companies.
Paul Gong: Of course, in terms of the service network, we have specialists and teams working for the power swap stations, road flight services as well as the new houses. So, for the service and the community part, we have a bigger team than other EV startups. But when it comes to the actual South person, in our company we call them fellows, in terms of the number of fellows, we actually have a much smaller team than all the other companies in the industry.
Paul Gong: Of course, in terms of the service network, we have specialists and teams working for the power swap stations, road flight services as well as the new houses. So, for the service and the community part, we have a bigger team than other EV startups. But when it comes to the actual South person, in our company we call them fellows, in terms of the number of fellows, we actually have a much smaller team than all the other companies in the industry.
Paul Gong: In April and May this year, our delivery volume was not very high. By then, we didn't really realize the importance of the South capabilities were taken any actions. But starting from June, as we ramped up our delivery volumes, we gradually realized that the insufficient South Team has affected the satisfaction and also the execution of many things, including test drive and also order conversions. That's why starting from July, we have started to develop our South channels as well as the South teams.
Paul Gong: In April and May this year, our delivery volume was not very high. By then, we didn't really realize the importance of the South capabilities were taken any actions. But starting from June, as we ramped up our delivery volumes, we gradually realized that the insufficient South Team has affected the satisfaction and also the execution of many things, including test drive and also order conversions. That's why starting from July, we have started to develop our South channels as well as the South teams.
Paul Gong: In four comparison to ramp up to the comparable sites, we believe that we need around 5,000 people working on the South team. But of course, it takes time for us to have that many people on the team and also to train them with the corresponding capabilities. In terms of the delivery volume in July, we have delivered more than 20,000 cars, but that demonstrated our capability in terms of the deliveries, which is relatively easier than realizing South capabilities.
Paul Gong: In four comparison to ramp up to the comparable sites, we believe that we need around 5,000 people working on the South team. But of course, it takes time for us to have that many people on the team and also to train them with the corresponding capabilities. In terms of the delivery volume in July, we have delivered more than 20,000 cars, but that demonstrated our capability in terms of the deliveries, which is relatively easier than realizing South capabilities.
Paul Gong: [inaudible] And another thing is about the channels. If you look at our self-distributions, Zhang Fu Zhuoduan and the Shanghai, this replaces basically contribute half of our self-volume. But for other provinces like in Anhui, the capital city itself is contributing around 80 to 90% of the self-volume. If we take Anhui as an example for other brands like DMJ or Mercedes, half of their self-volume in Anhui province, it's contributed by cities outside of the whole state and they basically have dealerships stores in all the cities in Anhui province.
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Paul Gong: And for us, we've just opened our new house in the second largest city in Anhui province that is in Wuku. In this case, we really need to take efforts in increasing our panel traditions into the lower tier cities. In addition to the self-channels, we are also developing and expanding our power swap networks into more cities. For the past several months, we've been developing our power swap stations in a much faster manner.
Paul Gong: And for us, we've just opened our new house in the second largest city in Anhui province that is in Wuku. In this case, we really need to take efforts in increasing our panel traditions into the lower tier cities. In addition to the self-channels, we are also developing and expanding our power swap networks into more cities. For the past several months, we've been developing our power swap stations in a much faster manner.
Paul Gong: And in August, we expect that we will deploy and install more than 100 power swap stations. Of course, it will take time for all these measures to take in, but this investment will be very important for our long-term capability. The second problem is the relationship between exchange and charging. At the same time, we have always been able to change and upgrade our power supply. We are using the long-term and long-term experience to give it the best charging experience.
Paul Gong: And in August, we expect that we will deploy and install more than 100 power swap stations. Of course, it will take time for all these measures to take in, but this investment will be very important for our long-term capability. The second problem is the relationship between exchange and charging. At the same time, we have always been able to change and upgrade our power supply. We are using the long-term and long-term experience to give it the best charging experience.
Paul Gong: We are also a Chinese technology. The most recent brands in charge of charging have been introduced. We believe that the fast charging technology is the right thing to talk about, because it is always the right thing to mention the speed of our charging service. In addition to that, the main step is to change the station. It is to change the station. We are now in a large part of the station. In this case, it is better to use a better demand.
Paul Gong: We are also a Chinese technology. The most recent brands in charge of charging have been introduced. We believe that the fast charging technology is the right thing to talk about, because it is always the right thing to mention the speed of our charging service. In addition to that, the main step is to change the station. It is to change the station. We are now in a large part of the station. In this case, it is better to use a better demand.
Paul Gong: The relationship between exchange and charging is that we have a lot of experience. In the past, when we talked about the exchange experience, it is much better than the experience experience. Of course, it is very important for us to use the long-term. Regarding your second question, about power swapping versus faster charging. As we have always mentioned that chargeable, swappable, and upgradeable have been the philosophy of our power solutions. We have been choosing the optimal solutions and also the best experience for our users, based on the actual scenarios and the use cases.
Paul Gong: The relationship between exchange and charging is that we have a lot of experience. In the past, when we talked about the exchange experience, it is much better than the experience experience. Of course, it is very important for us to use the long-term. Regarding your second question, about power swapping versus faster charging. As we have always mentioned that chargeable, swappable, and upgradeable have been the philosophy of our power solutions. We have been choosing the optimal solutions and also the best experience for our users, based on the actual scenarios and the use cases.
Paul Gong: As we are developing our power swapping network, we are also the automotive brand with the most public chargers in China, as I have mentioned, in my opening remark. Of course, we believe that with the development of the first charging technology, it will also help us with the power swap operations, as it can improve the service capacity of these swaps stations. Not to mention that many of the stations we have installed as of today are integrated stations featuring both chargers as well as power swaps.
Paul Gong: As we are developing our power swapping network, we are also the automotive brand with the most public chargers in China, as I have mentioned, in my opening remark. Of course, we believe that with the development of the first charging technology, it will also help us with the power swap operations, as it can improve the service capacity of these swaps stations. Not to mention that many of the stations we have installed as of today are integrated stations featuring both chargers as well as power swaps.
Paul Gong: In terms of the power swapping and the faster charging, we have also had many discussions between these two technologies, but we believe that so far power swapping is still having a much better experience than faster charging, and it will continue to be a very unique advantage and competitiveness, of New. Thank you very much. That's very helpful. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, William. Thank you, Paul.
Paul Gong: In terms of the power swapping and the faster charging, we have also had many discussions between these two technologies, but we believe that so far power swapping is still having a much better experience than faster charging, and it will continue to be a very unique advantage and competitiveness, of New. Thank you very much. That's very helpful. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, William.
William Li: Thank you, Paul.
Jing Chang: The next question comes from Jing Chang of CICC. Please go ahead. Okay, thank you for your sharing. I have two following up questions. The first is about our other sales revenue and the profit margin. As we can see that after our policy adjustment, what is our expectation for the future revenue and also profit margin for other sales after our battery swap started to started to gain profit and in particular do we have any internal calculation of the profitability of the battery swap business.
Jing Chang: The next question comes from Jing Chang of CICC. Please go ahead. Okay, thank you for your sharing. I have two following up questions. The first is about our other sales revenue and the profit margin. As we can see that after our policy adjustment, what is our expectation for the future revenue and also profit margin for other sales after our battery swap started to started to gain profit and in particular do we have any internal calculation of the profitability of the battery swap business. So what is the artwork trend of our growth profit margin for other sales in the following few cultures and when will it turn positive.
Jing Chang: So what is the artwork trend of our growth profit margin for other sales in the following few cultures and when will it turn positive. This is my first question. And my second is about the technology improvement. We have always been focused on R&D investment and also technology accumulation. So looking forward regarding to our next generation platform and this rate. So what's the improvement can we expect or what are the major areas of our effort to be so can you just share a few insights on the formation of that.
Jing Chang: This is my first question. And my second is about the technology improvement. We have always been focused on R&D investment and also technology accumulation. So looking forward regarding to our next generation platform and this rate. So what's the improvement can we expect or what are the major areas of our effort to be so can you just share a few insights on the formation of that.
Stanley Qu: This is my two questions. Thank you. Hi Jing, this is Stanley regarding your first question about the other sales revenue and the margin. As you mentioned, we can saw the three battery swap policies in Q3. So therefore there will be more users to pay for battery swap services. And as the sales keep growing, we think more battery swap service revenue can be realized. But since it's only one month from the policy adjustments, so we still need some time to observe and assess the impact of this policy change.
Stanley Qu: This is my two questions. Thank you. Hi Jing, this is Stanley regarding your first question about the other sales revenue and the margin. As you mentioned, we can saw the three battery swap policies in Q3. So therefore there will be more users to pay for battery swap services. And as the sales keep growing, we think more battery swap service revenue can be realized. But since it's only one month from the policy adjustments, so we still need some time to observe and assess the impact of this policy change.
Stanley Qu: Second is with the power swap station, the third generation put into operation starting from this April, we will accelerate the deployment of the power swap station in the following quarters. And for this year, our plan to build 1,000 stations, but at current stage, the capacity won't be fully utilized. So the losses from the accelerated construction of power swap station will increase. So I think that's basically the guidance for the other sales revenues. [inaudible] Thank you, Jing. Okay, thank you. That's all for my question. Thank you.
Stanley Qu: Second is with the power swap station, the third generation put into operation starting from this April, we will accelerate the deployment of the power swap station in the following quarters. And for this year, our plan to build 1,000 stations, but at current stage, the capacity won't be fully utilized. So the losses from the accelerated construction of power swap station will increase.
Jing Chang: So I think that's basically the guidance for the other sales revenues. [inaudible] Thank you, Jing. Okay, thank you.
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Edison Yu: The next question comes from Edison, you of Deutsche Bank, please go ahead. I think you have one question. I'm wondering, what is the management team's openness to embarking on some more strategic action? We've obviously seen a lot of activity from the European OEMs in China trying to revive or restructure their efforts. And I also think in the context of, you know, I think NIO has made some some mistakes. You know, we talked a lot about sales, the sales force today.
Edison Yu: The next question comes from Edison, you of Deutsche Bank, please go ahead. I think you have one question.
Edison Yu: I'm wondering, what is the management team's openness to embarking on some more strategic action? We've obviously seen a lot of activity from the European OEMs in China trying to revive or restructure their efforts. And I also think in the context of, you know, I think NIO has made some some mistakes. You know, we talked a lot about sales, the sales force today. We had a lot of supply inches last year, many of which are related actually to more traditional autoside. But we perhaps benefit actually from having some more closer strategic relationships with some of the the OEMs out there. Thank you. Thank you, Jason. But we are open to all kinds of cooperation.
Edison Yu: We had a lot of supply inches last year, many of which are related actually to more traditional autoside. But we perhaps benefit actually from having some more closer strategic relationships with some of the the OEMs out there. Thank you. Thank you, Jason. But we are open to all kinds of cooperation. This is a good question. We haven't had any information before. We need to communicate with them. From a direction perspective, let's talk about the current technology, our innovation network.
William Li: This is a good question. We haven't had any information before. We need to communicate with them. From a direction perspective, let's talk about the current technology, our innovation network. Of course, we believe that the whole industry is able to help the whole industry to quickly evolve. Then we, in fact, in our field team, we already talked about our next generation of electronic bags and our entire network network. We are willing to open up the whole industry.
Edison Yu: Of course, we believe that the whole industry is able to help the whole industry to quickly evolve. Then we, in fact, in our field team, we already talked about our next generation of electronic bags and our entire network network. We are willing to open up the whole industry. There are also some interesting companies that are talking about us in a very unusual way. Because if they want to change our, if they want to use our network network and our technology, if they want to change their strategy, they need to change their development and their changes.
William Li: There are also some interesting companies that are talking about us in a very unusual way. Because if they want to change our, if they want to use our network network and our technology, if they want to change their strategy, they need to change their development and their changes. This is also a big decision. We also need some time to do so. So, in any case, we would like to promote the whole industry and the electronic network. The electronic network is very open. Thank you, Edison, for your question.
Edison Yu: This is also a big decision. We also need some time to do so. So, in any case, we would like to promote the whole industry and the electronic network. The electronic network is very open. Thank you, Edison, for your question. Overall speaking, we are very open to all kinds of cooperation with the peers in the industry, but so far we don't have much information to update or share with you. But if you look at our smart technologies, as well as our charging and swapping networks, actually, we aim to use this technology to catalyze the transformation of the entire industry.
William Li: Overall speaking, we are very open to all kinds of cooperation with the peers in the industry, but so far we don't have much information to update or share with you. But if you look at our smart technologies, as well as our charging and swapping networks, actually, we aim to use this technology to catalyze the transformation of the entire industry. As we've also announced at the Power Day 2023, we are willing to open up our next generation battery technologies, as well as our charging and swapping networks to the entire industry.
Edison Yu: As we've also announced at the Power Day 2023, we are willing to open up our next generation battery technologies, as well as our charging and swapping networks to the entire industry. Right now, we are in some initial communications with certain OEMs. They are also thinking about using our battery technologies for swapping networks. But to use that technology, they need to adapt their products to our standards, which can take some time for them to make the final decisions.
William Li: Right now, we are in some initial communications with certain OEMs. They are also thinking about using our battery technologies for swapping networks. But to use that technology, they need to adapt their products to our standards, which can take some time for them to make the final decisions. But overall speaking, we are very open to all kinds of cooperation. I would like to add, in fact, to our charging and swapping networks, 80% of these devices will be used in the future.
Edison Yu: But overall speaking, we are very open to all kinds of cooperation. I would like to add, in fact, to our charging and swapping networks, 80% of these devices will be used in the future. In front of us, there is also a new series of content in the network media, which has been mentioned. Because the charging process of that purpose is too hot, we sometimes have some time limit to the service of our users.
William Li: In front of us, there is also a new series of content in the network media, which has been mentioned. Because the charging process of that purpose is too hot, we sometimes have some time limit to the service of our users. There are a lot of other users in the network. But we are not able to do that. But from the other side, we can also see that our entire transformation technology has helped a lot of the users in the network. On the other hand, we have been... And in terms of our existing charging network, so far, 80% of our electricity are actually charged for the now-new users.
Edison Yu: There are a lot of other users in the network. But we are not able to do that. But from the other side, we can also see that our entire transformation technology has helped a lot of the users in the network. On the other hand, we have been... And in terms of our existing charging network, so far, 80% of our electricity are actually charged for the now-new users. Maybe you've also got this news recently in Xinjiang's Serum Lake, because it's such a popular tourist spot we have to limit access to our public chargers for the now-new users at certain time frames and that costs some complaints by the now-new users. But overall speaking, it's also a very good example showing our existing charging and swapping facilities are helping many EV users, not just the users on the new. Thank you. Thank you, Edson.
William Li: Maybe you've also got this news recently in Xinjiang's Serum Lake, because it's such a popular tourist spot we have to limit access to our public chargers for the now-new users at certain time frames and that costs some complaints by the now-new users. But overall speaking, it's also a very good example showing our existing charging and swapping facilities are helping many EV users, not just the users on the new. Thank you. Thank you, Edson.
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