Q3 2023 Callon Petroleum Co Earnings Call
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I would now like to turn the call over to Collin CFO, Kevin Haggard. Please go ahead Sir.
Thanks, operator, and good morning, everyone apologies, we had a little hiccup with the link to the webcast I think we're now all in and there'll be a recording afterwards. So we appreciate your interest in Cowen with me today are our CEO, Joe Gatto and our CFO Russell Parker, we will happily take your questions at the end of our prepared remarks, we will run.
Our third quarter earnings release, and supplemental slides, which are available on our website under the investors tab on today's call will also include forward looking statements that refer to estimates and plans.
Results could differ materially due to risk factors noted in our presentation and SEC filings. We will also refer to some non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe help facilitate comparisons across periods and with our peers.
For any non-GAAP measures referenced we provide a reconciliation to the nearest corresponding GAAP measures in the appendix to our slide deck and our earnings press release, both of which are available on our website with that I will now turn the call over to Joe. Thank.
Thank you Kevin good morning, everyone.
<unk> posted solid results for the third quarter, marking our 14th consecutive quarter of adjusted free cash flow generation cash flow.
Are using to reduce debt and repurchase our shares.
Our corporate priorities are clear we are focused on maximizing free cash flow aggressively driving down our cost structure, reducing absolute debt and returning cash to owners through our share buyback program.
I'll divide today's call into three segments.
First I'll summarize third quarter financial and operating results overall, it was a good quarter with total production and key operating costs in line with expectations and capital investments below guidance.
However, we did experienced some headwinds related to our near term oil production, which I will address shortly.
Second I will cover our unrelenting focus on safely driving cost out of the system and creating sustainable operational efficiencies our focus on financial and operational cost controls was producing impressive gains.
Pay increasing dividends into 2024 in terms of both free cash flow generation and lower breakeven prices for our Permian inventory.
Next I want to spend a bit of time on the sustainable benefits of our life of field Codevelopment model. This is an ongoing and proven development process that maximizes long term value of inventory, where real time learnings are then applied to future capital investments, we continue to see well productivity of Cowen is moving counter to industry trends. However, we.
We need to continue to optimize that model over time with new information in order to properly balance near term returns with longer term opportunities lastly.
Lastly, I will conclude with some early thoughts on 2020 for a recent efficiency gains in both drilling and completions are expected to be sustainable and will allow us to maximize value in 2024 through the enhancement of two key financial metrics capital efficiency and free cash flow conversion of EBITDA.
Let's get started with third quarter results for the third quarter total production averaged 102000 Boe per day oil sales averaged about 58000 barrels per day.
The shortfall in oil volumes is related to two key factors first extreme temperatures and related power and midstream issues, we experienced in July which we discussed on the Q2 call continued into August and September in the Delaware basin, especially in our oil or areas like Delaware East.
Power outages impacted our electrical submersible pump program and reduced expected oil volumes due to downtime days as well as the time to ramp the ESP is back to normal operating levels.
Factors related to oil production from recent multi zone projects in the Delaware West are most gas weighted area.
About one half of our third quarter turned in lines or 15 of the 33 were in Delaware West.
While total production on a BOE basis from recent completions was relatively in line with expectations gas oil ratios were much higher than expected declining.
The commodity mix from these wells will also have an impact on our fourth quarter oil volumes.
As an additional note we recently accelerated change in our Delaware Basin artificial lift program that was previously slated to start in 2024 to improve uptime performance.
Program will incorporate an increasing proportion of gas lift installs relative to asps overtime to reduce production downtime from power and weather events, lower workover expense and enhanced longer term resource recovery.
In the fourth quarter, we do see some negative impacts production is compression related equipment is procured procured installed in areas where nearby gas lift installations don't exist.
With the program up and running this quarter and firmly incorporated into our planning process. We don't expect to see this timing issue going forward.
Overall, we expect fourth quarter oil production in a range of 56 to 59000 barrels per day with total production in the range of 100 to 103 Boe per day.
Comprised of approximately 79% liquids as part of our fourth quarter activity. We expect to turn 14 gross wells in line in the fourth quarter in our earlier areas, the Delaware and Midland Basin, which will benefit our 2020 for mix.
Our forecasted capital investments for both full year and fourth quarter 2023 remain unchanged.
An increase in drilling and completion activity driven by improving cycle times that I will hit upon in a minute.
This clearly demonstrates the cost efficiencies we are realizing today.
The corollary to the cost and capital efficiencies. We are experiencing is that we are improving our rate of conversion of EBITDAX to adjusted free cash flow in today's deck.
We show how this conversion has increased throughout the year.
A few additional points to highlight.
G&A costs are now lower as a result of the of focusing the business solely on the Permian and streamlining our organizational structure, we are creating sustainable sufficient efficiencies across the business that will lead to improved results in future periods.
We generated nearly $50 million and adjusted free cash flow this quarter.
This gave us the flexibility to kick off our share repurchase program and Opportunistically increased working interest in upcoming projects through several land initiatives.
We are laser focused on reducing absolute debt and strengthening our capital structure.
Quarter end total long term debt was approximately $1 9 billion down more than $300 million from the period prior period.
Our outlook for higher free cash flows in the fourth quarter will allow us to keep on pace with reducing debt and buying back additional stock through year end.
We benefited from recent acquisitions and our now our Permian focused oil and gas company with scale.
We added quality assets in the Permian and extended our runway of high return long lateral development locations in terms of our recent Delaware acquisition. Our first five oil project is currently coming online and we are encouraged by early time oil production rates in wellhead pressures, we will keep you updated on progress here.
We have materially strengthened our balance sheet and implemented a cash return program to shareholders.
Turning to use up to 40% of our adjusted free cash flow to repurchase shares in the fourth quarter.
While we are focused on reducing absolute debt, we see buying back our shares at today's valuation is a very attractive use of cash flow.
Strengthening our leadership team and redesigned our operating teams our new CFO Russell Parker is leaving no stone unturned as he assesses our business and benchmark their performance against industry.
Is making an impact applying his years of experience to safely enhance operational practices lower cost and create sustainable synergies to drive future performance I know he is eager to share some additional highlights and talk about his team some more during our Q&A.
But it is a start early operational wins include <unk>.
One we are materially reducing days versus depth through the elimination of casing strings, which decreased cycle times and enhances project returns.
Each of our developments going forward, we will have a fit for purpose casing design Taylor.
Taylor to maximize value we.
We've provided a couple of examples of this on page seven of the presentation materials.
Reductions in cost per lateral foot are being realized through the optimization of drill bits and the ability to drill long laterals on the completion side. We've increased complete completed lateral feet per day by as much as 20%, we're seeing repeatable efficiencies and pumping rates and hours pumped per day.
The impact of these realized improvements are driving overall performance into year end, we now anticipate to complete approximately 50000 more lateral feet and commenced drilling and an incremental five wells relative to our mid year forecast. This additional activity will benefit 2020 for production.
While staying within our existing budget.
These accomplishments have been realized in a very short period of time. After we've revamped our operations in recent months. This has demanded a tremendous amount of effort and I want to thank the entire organization for making this possible.
Let me shift gears and discuss our life of field co development model.
This thoughtful approach to development has been constantly evolving over the past five years.
It differentiates us from our peers and our well productivity is performing countered industry.
We've learned a great deal about interactions between our co developed zones and associated well spacing and placement.
This continuous learning provides a foundation for ongoing tailoring our projects to maximize returns for.
For example, our recent co development of our Delaware South area demonstrated that our deepest target zone to be developed separately over time, allowing us to reduce overall project sizes and cycle times.
As well as reduce facility investments.
Continuous improvement is critical to maximizing our MPV proposition.
Let me wrap up today's call by providing some of our early thoughts around 2024.
Consistent with prior practice look for formal guidance from US early next year.
First we will continue to focus on maximizing free cash flow our top cash flow priorities are to fund our high value developments reduce debt and repurchase shares we believe that allocating capital appropriately across these buckets will drive improvements in our cost of capital.
We will continue to be very disciplined with our capital investments with recent efficiency gains in drilling completion facilities, we expect to do more with less in 2024 and forecast average <unk> cost per well to be down over 15% versus 2023 and.
In addition, ongoing high grading of investments within our co development model will allow us to target lower investment rates to enhance free cash flow.
Our production trajectory in 'twenty, four will benefit from pulling forward more drilling and completion activity than initially plan as we are improving cycle times in the second half of this year.
As well as the return of a second completion crew early in the next year.
In terms of our early thoughts on 2024 production outlook increases in activity to drive topline growth will be secondary to driving improved capital efficiency as we prioritize debt reduction and share repurchases.
Also point out that we expect our oil mix to improve over the coming quarters as we focus on high return oil areas in the Delaware and Midland basins.
We will remain nimble as our 2024 program progresses and will evaluate increases in our activity to the extent, we achieved DCF reductions in excess of our original plan similar to what we've done in the second half of this year.
We appreciate you invest in our company and we look forward to taking your questions operator.
Thank you we will.
I'll now open the line for questions as a reminder to ask a question. Please press star one.
Our first question comes from Neal Dingmann with Truth Securities. Your line is open.
Good morning, all thanks for the time gentlemen, first question, maybe kind of get right to it maybe for Russell.
Just you talked about some 15% reductions in gist.
Really highlighting completion drilling just a lot of things I'd love to hear.
Great from Russell just when he when he looks at 24.
Thanks, a lot of these savings potentially could come from.
Hey, good morning, Liana I appreciate the question and actually we're already starting to see some of this come to fruition as we modify our casing strength, it's going to be a different mix of savings across the portfolio, probably the way it will shake out we think 15% plus on average per well <unk> in the way that breaks out it's about 15.
Sent on average savings on the drilling side about a 5% average.
On the completion side and about 50%.
Savings on facilities and really what that all below that there is a little bit of cost of services. There is a little bit of that.
Single digits, 3% to 5%, depending upon which which.
Youre talking about.
But really the big change is coming from shifting from a kind of a standard mindset a standard way of doing things to a fit for purpose. So we're looking at each individual location and looking at where we can reduce casing strains reduce hole size is running a bit program in a bit life much longer than what we have been particularly drilling with conventional tools instead of rotary <unk>.
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And in some places, we actually save money doing that and can keep that to keep the tools and the whole longer.
And then on the facility on the completion side.
A lot of that savings is coming from sand, that's not unique to Cowen now, though some of the logistics is our unique to Cowen.
That's the bulk of where we see that savings coming from we think we could probably stretch a little bit further on the completion side, even as we go into 2024 and that will be our goal as we look to increase our pump rate potentially complete two paths at the same time, we're throwing a lot of ideas out there we're going to let the team really stretch their legs really kind of push the envelope of engineering excellence to help reduce those costs.
And then on the facility side, it's really a once again, it's fit for purpose. So.
A good deal of money over the years with our life of field model building up an infrastructure of equipment and flow lines, and hey, guys. What have you or corn out of the point, where we can actually once our harvesting of us of that equipment, but to also look at maybe building a building or on pad facilities, a little bit differently using more bulk lines truck lines.
Grating Gasless system, while it takes a little time to get together actually over time will save us money. So it's a large combination of projects.
If you had about four hours I'd love to take through all of it but we don't have it today, but.
And a whole lot of folks working on it but basically it's that fit for purpose design versus just taking a standard.
Great detail trusts and then definitely we'll take you up on that Lumpier more sometime offline and then Joe. My second question is just on capital allocation I'm just wondering what will be the primary drivers of what is the primary drivers of when you'd Kevin decide that now on a go forward lean into the buybacks versus allocate a bit more on the growth side. Thanks.
Yes.
Look.
We've talked about the three buckets that we have in terms of adding value clearly investing in the asset base in a disciplined way.
First stop but we are very focused on debt reduction goals out there were serious about getting to them and also following through on our share repurchase program. So we have a lot of efficiencies that Russell talked about here.
Not only from a cost perspective, but also from cycle times, but we are going to be Cogs, and we don't want those efficiencies of drag is too higher reinvestment rates. So.
By focusing on high grading our opportunity set.
Going forward, we can find a nice balance in between there to deliver high return projects keep our reinvestment rates in check have more free cash flow to deliver to incremental debt reduction and share repurchases.
Thank you guys.
Our next question comes from Zach <unk> with J P. Morgan Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question.
First could you give us a little more color on what youre seeing from those gas year wells in the Delaware West area, maybe add some thoughts on how you think about future development in that area that these well results change kind of how you think about your inventory that you have remaining over there.
Sure.
I'll take that question the Delaware West classically has been our gas is up.
Elimination of casing strings, which decrease the cycle times and enhances project returns.
Part of our portfolio Thats nothing new.
Just a real surprise.
Each of our developments going forward, we will have a fit for purpose casing design tailored.
The good news is we have a lot of places to invest money going forward too so as Joe was alluding to.
Tailored to maximize value we.
We've provided a couple of examples of this on page seven of the presentation materials.
We're going to look at one hour power design any spacing completing landing and developing the property with a lower cost structure going forward in order to continue to maximize value.
Reductions in cost per lateral foot are being realized through the optimization of drill bits and the ability to drill long laterals on the completion side. We've increased complete completed lateral feet per day by as much as 20%, we're seeing repeatable efficiencies and pumping rates and hours pumped per day.
And then also in the near term or other assets the east in the Midland Basin, obviously, it will help.
That that oil mix as we're going forward.
And I think specifically on.
The combined impact of these realized improvements are driving overall performance into year end, we now anticipate to complete approximately 50000 more lateral feet and commenced drilling an incremental five wells relative to our mid year forecast. This additional activity will benefit 2024 production all of us while staying within our existing budget.
Delaware West project is that we had a lot higher <unk> ratios than we expected.
I think some of that is attributed to look as an active area around us overtime, so somewhat offset activity.
Most likely lead to some some depletion effects in that area, but there are lessons learned from that project going forward. We still think <unk> is an attractive area.
These accomplishments have been realized in a very short period of time. After we've revamped our operations in recent months. This has demanded a tremendous amount of effort and I want to thank the entire organization for making this possible.
But with co developments that we've got to evolve over time, so I would probably put in a few more lessor.
Let me shift gears and discuss our life of field co development model.
Or sorry, few less sticks and the deeper zones in the Wolfcamp B and C.
Thoughtful approach to development has been constantly evolving over the past five years.
It would be one thing that we take away from that but overall dealer western area will be back to over time part of our program with scale developments to rotate our projects because theyre not over taxing infrastructure leverage infrastructure, we have in place and there's very similar returns.
It differentiates us from our peers and our well productivity is performing countered industry.
We've learned a great deal about interactions between our co developed zones and associated well spacing and placement.
This continuous learning provides a foundation for ongoing tailoring our projects to maximize returns for.
For example, our recent co development of our Delaware South area demonstrated that our deepest target zone could be developed separately over time, allowing us to reduce overall project sizes and cycle times as.
Across the portfolio for different reasons.
But hopefully that gives you a sense of where we're heading from Delaware, but theres certainly some takeaways there that we're incorporating and our designs going forward.
As well as reduce facility investments.
Got it and then maybe just following up on Neil's question, you've talked a lot about cost reductions on DCF.
This improvement is critical to maximizing our NPV proposition.
Let me wrap up today's call by providing some of our early thoughts around 2024.
Can you give us any sense of what 2020 for Capex might look like if cost play out the way that you think they will should we be thinking about a similar number of turned in lines next year and Capex is just simply 15% lower year over year or is it more complex and complicated than that.
Consistent with prior practice look for formal guidance from US early next year.
First we will continue to focus on maximizing free cash flow our top cash flow priorities are to fund our high valued developments reduce debt and repurchase shares we believe that allocating capital appropriately across these buckets will drive improvements in our cost of capital.
Yes.
I wanted to give you the building blocks here.
Certainly around DCF average well costs as I said the cycle time element is really critical here in terms of how we plan out for next year. Obviously, we have a good pathway into the beginning of the year with getting a jumpstart on activity into the first quarter from the savings we've had in 'twenty three but yes. It is more complicated than just.
We will continue to be very disciplined with our capital investments with recent efficiency gains in drilling completion facilities, we expect to do more with less in 2024 and forecast average <unk> cost per well to be down over 15% versus 2023 and.
In addition, ongoing high grading of investments within our co development model will allow us to target lower investment rates to enhance free cash flow.
Taking down 15%.
We do we want to be mindful as I said around reinvestment rates we could.
Our production trajectory in 'twenty, four will benefit from pulling forward more drilling and completion activity than initially plan as we are improving cycle times in the second half of this year.
Everything that we've shown.
In recent months on the drilling side and completion side.
That allows us to go faster in general, but we're going to moderate our investments appropriately to balance all of our free cash flow objectives. So it will be able to fill in.
As well as the return of a second completion crew early in the next year.
In terms of our early thoughts on 2024 production outlook increases in activity to drive topline growth will be secondary to driving improved capital efficiency as we prioritize debt reduction and share repurchases.
The holes here in the next couple of months, but certainly wanted to give you some of the building blocks going into next year again being lower DCF per well improved cycle times.
Also point out that we expect our oil mix to improve over the coming quarters as we focus on high return oil areas in the Delaware and Midland basins.
And a good trajectory going into the beginning of Q4 with some oil weighted projects.
Got it thanks, Joe.
We will remain nimble as our 2024 program progresses and will evaluate increases in our activity to the extent, we achieved DCF reductions in excess of our original plan similar to what we've done in second half of this year.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from Oliver Huang with Tpa Your line is open.
Good morning, Joe Kevin and Russell.
We appreciate you invest in our company and we look forward to taking your questions operator.
Our.
Certainly.
Good to see the incremental detail around a lot of the cost initiatives that youll.
Thank you.
I'll now open the line for questions.
And working around and I mean, 15% is certainly a meaningful number but.
A reminder to ask a question please press star one.
Our first question comes from Neal Dingmann with Truth Securities. Your line is open.
Maybe just kind of a follow up to neal's earlier question. How immediate are these savings is that something that we would expect to start in full force at the beginning of 2024 I know you all have already made headway.
Good morning, all thanks for the time gentlemen, first question, maybe kind of get right to it maybe for Russell.
Just you talked about some 15% reductions in gist.
On that today or is that something that we should expect to kind of layer in a bit more gradually.
Really highlighting completion drilling just a lot of things I'd love to hear.
It's already happening now and I'd say as we get into Q1, we should we should be in the neighborhood of already realizing that hopefully definitely averaging it through the year, maybe even beating it as the year goes on depending of course, depending on where commodity prices and service rates are.
Straight from Russell just when.
When he when he looks at 24, where he thinks a lot of these savings potentially could come from.
Hey, good morning, Neil and I appreciate the question and actually we're already starting to see some of this come to fruition as we modify our casing strength, it's going to be a different mix of savings across the portfolio, probably the way it will shake out we think 15% plus on average per well <unk> in the way that breaks out it's about a 15.
But to that point and Joe mentioned earlier.
We've got extra projects that were actually drilling and completing this year about 50000 extra lateral feet.
Another handful of wells that we're going to spud in 'twenty three that were not in our anticipated budget.
<unk> on average savings on the drilling side about a 5% average.
On the completion side and about 50%.
Savings on facilities and really what that all of that there is a little bit of cost of services. There is a little bit of that.
Mid year. These projects are going to add production in Q4, obviously Q1, you won't see them in Q4, adding production next year.
Single digits, 3% to 5%, depending upon which which you are talking about.
But we're able to do that and still stay within our original budget and the reason is we're already starting to realize some of these prospects I don't think we're not quite to the 15% range yet maybe single digits because honestly one of the biggest cost savings, which is going to take time to layer into that facility fee that was going to be more Q2 three four.
But really the big change is coming from shifting from a kind of a standard mindset a standard way of doing things to a fit for purpose. So we're looking at each individual location and looking at where we can reduce casing strains reduce hole sizes run they're a bit program in a bit life much longer than what we have been potentially drilling with conventional tools instead of rotary <unk>.
But the bar on the D and the fee side, we're already starting to see.
Come to fruition now.
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And in some places, we actually save money doing that and can keep that to keep the tools and the whole longer.
Excellent.
Awesome, that's helpful and maybe another follow up just with respect to the facility side.
And then on the facility on the completion side.
A lot of that savings is coming from sand, that's not unique to Cowen now, though some of the logistics is our unique to Cowen.
Such a change that you all are kind of talking about impact the expected production trajectory.
That's the bulk of where we see that savings coming from we think we could probably stretch a little bit further on the completion side, even as we go into 2024 and that will be our goal as we look to increase our pump rates potentially complete two pads at the same time, we're throwing a lot of ideas out there we're going to let the team really stretch their legs really pushed the envelope of engineering excellence to help reduce those costs.
Well productivity is it more so along the lines of just kind of constraining IP, a little bit more to avoid overbuilding in the facilities or is it more so along the lines of just.
Using stuff that's already existing.
It's usually things that are existing in some places, yes, you might actually see a lower IP 30, but it's similar IP 90, that's part of the ways in which we're saving some money is if you build everything for an IP 30.
And then another facility side, it's really a once again, it's fit for purpose. So we.
A good deal of money over the years with our life of field model building up an infrastructure of equipment and flow lines, and hey, guys what have you.
At your cost structure is higher however, if you look at your rate of return.
It's better billings towards the 1990, so over the year you wouldn't see it maybe on an exact well in an exact month you might see a different peak, but.
Now to the point, where we can actually once our harvesting of us of that equipment, but to also look at maybe building a building or on pad facilities, a little bit differently using more bulk lines trunk lines integrating gasless system, while it takes a little time to get together actually over time will save us save us money. So it's a large combination of projects.
If you were looking at a quarter of all publicly available data that I don't think you'd see the difference that you'd probably see more stable production over time, the other place it sounds like some of the design changes, we're talking about will actually help eliminate or reduce back pressure, which will actually improve particularly to improve some of our production on the base.
If you had about four hours I would love to take you through all of it but we don't have that today, but.
And a whole lot of folks working on it but basically it's that fit for purpose designed versus just making a standard.
Awesome and if I could squeeze just one more in with respect.
The Q4 guide.
Great detail trusts and then definitely we'll take you up on that more sometime off line and then Joe. My second question is just on capital allocation I'm just wondering what would be the primary drivers of what is the primary drivers of when you'd Kevin decide that now on a go forward lean into the buybacks versus allocate a bit more on the growth side. Thanks.
Obviously, a downward revision there, but just wanted to see is there any sort of breakout in terms of what could be attributed to the less oil than expected from the subset of wells that came out of the west area within the quarter versus just.
The incremental downtime from accelerating some of the optimization that you're doing on the artificial lift side.
Yes.
Look we've talked about the three buckets that we have in terms of adding value clearly investing in the asset base in a disciplined way first.
Yes.
The large majority of that from what we highlighted Delaware West.
Okay. Thanks.
First stop but we are very focused on debt reduction goals out there were serious about getting to them and also following through on our share repurchase program. So we have a lot of efficiencies that Russell's talked about here not only from a cost perspective, but also from cycle times, but we are going to be cognizant, we don't want those efficiencies of drag is.
I appreciate the color guys.
Okay.
Our next question comes from Derrick Whitfield with Stifel. Your line is open.
Thanks, Good morning, all and congrats on the structural improvements you've outlined this quarter.
Thanks, Eric.
Starting with a follow up on the Delaware less development.
Higher reinvestment rates so.
By focusing on high grading our opportunity set.
I wanted to ask if you could lean in on the learn lessons and specifically does the higher EUR indicate greater vertical connectivity through the lower wolfcamp zones or simply a gasior upper wolfcamp based on past depletion from bone spring development.
Going forward, we can.
Can find a nice balance in between there to deliver high return projects keep our reinvestment rates in check have more free cash flow to deliver two incremental debt reduction and share repurchases.
So I would say that the generic learning is is you got to make sure youre doing a great job taking into account that what also happened on your acreage, but offset acreage we're projecting that into the future looking at how how that regional depletion may impact you going forward and then also looking at how.
Thank you guys.
Our next question comes from Zach <unk> with JP Morgan Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question.
First could you give us a little more color on what youre seeing from those gasior wells in the Delaware West area, maybe add some thoughts on how you think about future development in that area that these well results change kind of how you think about your inventory that you have remaining over there.
Your spacing needs to be appropriately designed a redesign in order to optimize your capital investment going forward.
So there's still plenty to do there, but yes, a lot of what it may involve us in order to maximize NAV, because youre dealing with a little bit lower reservoir pressure as we're talking about wells with larger completions plus safely spaced further apart actually optimizes youre going.
Sure.
The exact question.
Delaware West classically has been our gassy.
Part of our portfolio Thats nothing new.
No real surprise.
When youre seeing that but that's really what I would say the key learning from this is is looking at bench by bench what is the appropriate spacing looking bench by bench to see which wells are communicating with what where you have local geologic features where you have localized increased depletion from offset operators.
The good news is we have a lot of places to invest money going forward too so as Joe was alluding to.
We're going to look at one hour power design any spacing completing landing and developing the property with a lower cost structure going forward in order to continue to maximize value.
To make sure that you are optimizing your capital going forward.
And then also in the near term or other assets the east in the Midland Basin, obviously will help pull up at that oil mix as we're going forward.
And Russell kind of looking forward with that development in that area.
Yes.
Do you think you'll have enough data kind of post this post.
And I think specifically on.
Delaware West project is that we had a lot higher <unk> ratios.
Testament to to have a good feel for what spacing should be as you guys look to develop that out in 2024 and 2029.
We expected.
I think some of that is attributed to as it look it is an active area around us overtime, so somewhat offset activity.
Absolutely not only are we looking at fit for purpose on the <unk> side, but we're actually really started to unlock some of the other team members as we change our structure and really take into account and analyzed quite a bit more data than that we have in the past as a company.
Most likely lead to some some depletion effects in that area, but there are lessons learned from that project going forward. We still think <unk> is an attractive area.
But with co developments that we've got to evolve over time, so I would probably put in a few more.
We're actually doing a lot of exciting things around machine learning and predictions in reservoir simulation.
To help us improve the accuracy of our models and really have a good handle on how you can iterate on different spacing different landing, which how many how many individual wells and marketplaces I take to optimize NAV.
Less a few less sticks and the deeper zones in the Wolfcamp B and C.
That would be one thing that we take away from that but overall dealer western area will be back to AUM.
What expenses, we see are communicating with one another we have been doing some expiring experiments actually to figure out.
Over time part of our program with scaled developments to rotate our projects as we are not over taxing infrastructure leverage infrastructure, we have in place and there's very similar returns.
Fluid typing.
And actually being able to really see what zones are communicating with with what other zones by doing what felt like a fluid fingerprint.
Across the portfolio for different reasons.
But hopefully it gives you a sense of where we're heading from Delaware, but theres certainly some takeaways there that we're incorporating and our designs going forward.
No absolutely, it's an incredible focus of our technical.
Nickel team not only in this basin, but everywhere.
Because same learnings St process can be used to help you optimize your NAV.
Got it and then maybe just following up on Neil's question, you've talked a lot about cost reductions on DCF.
All your assets.
I'm going to work on your side one final if I could just on page eight looking out into 2024 could you speak to how impactful III model lateral development could be in your operational plan.
Can you give us any sense of what 2020 for Capex might look like a cost play out the way that you think they will should we be thinking about a similar number of turn in lines next year and Capex is just simply 15% lower year over year or is it more complex and complicated than that.
So I think that how impactful a three mile lateral.
Correct, Yes, yes.
Well part of what we wanted to show there was actually not only just record lateral blood record time.
Yes.
We wanted to give you the building blocks here.
The first time saves money.
In terms of how many locations we'll have next year that'll be three miles that we're still working out our budget in figuring that out.
Certainly around DCF average well costs as I said the <unk>.
Fecal time element is really critical here in terms of how we plan out for next year. Obviously, we have a good pathway into the beginning of the year with getting a jumpstart on activity into the first quarter from the savings we've had in 'twenty three but yes. It is more complicated than just taking down 15%.
I'd say, probably the P 50 answers that we're still drilling at $3 50, 10000 foot wells, but we are looking for places where we can extend that wherever Boston matter of fact in one particular location, we couldnt, even drill Australia 15000 foot Hall.
So, but we drove basically if you will.
Do we want to be mindful as I said around reinvestment rates we could.
Feel like.
L shape well almost.
With everything that we've shown.
Our well abandonment in order to one optimized depletion of the reservoir dealing with these situations that we had acreage situation that we had our footprint, but also thereby maximizing our returns. So we're going to be looking at that we're going to be looking at U shaped wells, we're going to look at a lot of different concepts in order to optimize our NAV, but also.
In recent months on the drilling side and completion side.
That allows us to go faster in general, but we're going to moderate our investments appropriately to balance all of our free cash flow objective. So it will be able to fill in.
The holes here in the next couple of months, but certainly wanted to give you some of the building blocks going into next year again being lower DCF per well improved cycle times and a good trajectory going into the beginning of Q4 with some oil weighted projects.
So kind of opening our minds, all with them within the art of the possible in terms of well shaped landing links.
And tied to that.
That's a great update thanks for your time.
Got it thanks, Joe.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from Scott Hanold with RBC capital markets. Your line is open.
Our next question comes from Oliver Huang with Tpa.
Your line is open.
Hey, Thank you all.
Good morning, Joe Kevin and Russell.
And hopefully this hasn't been asked yet Ben just jump to a couple of calls that are going on but just in terms of.
Hello.
Certainly.
Good to see the incremental detail around a lot of the cost initiatives that you're working.
You all saw on the Delaware West and what Youre learning there.
Working around and I mean, 15% is certainly a meaningful number but.
Could you talk about like your asset base just more at large is there other areas that have regional pollution or spacing that theres something you will be cognizant of or is this one or is this more Delaware west specific and can you talk about where delver west fits into your overall inventory and activity levels moving forward.
Maybe just kind of a follow up to neal's earlier question.
How immediate are these savings is that something that we would expect to start in full force at the beginning of 2024 I know you all have already made headway.
On that today or is that something that we should expect to kind of layer in a bit more gradually.
<unk>.
So I'd say going forward into next year I assume we're probably going be more heavily weighted in the east and in the Midland Basin. However, we do already have some slated projects in south and west.
It's already happening now and I'd say as we get into Q1, we should we should be in the neighborhood of already realizing that hopefully definitely averaging it through the year, maybe even beating it as the year goes on depending of course, depending on where commodity prices and service rates are.
And honestly you can map. This we've actually made some cool little movies about it will videos.
But to that point and Joe mentioned earlier.
Regional pressure decline is real and all benches within the Permian. If anybody tells you that a thought and theyre not looking at the data that doesn't mean you can't make money. However that just means you've got to take it into account. When you are building your development plans and as you continue to learn and modify your developed plans. So I think look the process and what we learned in the Delaware West is something that you can apply everywhere.
We've got extra projects that were actually drilling and completing this year about 50000 extra lateral feet.
Another handful of wells that we're going to spud in 'twenty three that were not in our anticipated budget.
At mid year. These projects are going to add production in Q4, obviously Q1, you won't see them in Q4, adding production next year.
Do you see that same level of pressure decline all throughout the Permian know, it's specific by bench is specific by area that which parts of the county this year and so that's not a it's not a blanket answer which again is like I can go back to when you're developing your asset and same thing for Cowen you want to do a fit for purpose design because not each each area is seeing similar.
But we're able to do that and still stay within our original budget and the reason is we're already starting to realize some of these prospects I don't think we're not quite to the 15% range, yet maybe single digits because the obviously one of the <unk>.
Biggest cost savings, which is going to take time to layer into that facility fee that was going to be more Q2 three four.
Phenomenon, but not at the same level and at the same degree not the same.
The same with ever bench right you don't see you don't see it because maybe the reservoir is it start out with the same.
But the bar on the D and the fee side, we are already starting to see.
Come to fruition now excellent.
<unk>, let's start out with the same.
Historically our.
Awesome, that's helpful and maybe one other follow up just with respect to the facility side.
Our geologic history and Digenesis, so theres, all sorts of reasons, but that produce different results, but the process and the learnings you can apply everywhere in terms of yes, where I see us spending money or where we see ourselves spending money definitely lot of prop.
Such a change that you all are kind of talking about impact the expected production trajectory.
More weighted to the Delaware and Midland asset in 'twenty, four we do still have projects selling the south and in the west and they were working on some things longer term to make the investment opportunity even more exciting in those basins that was part of our assets, but more to come on that Thats a teaser for next year.
Well productivity is it more sell along the lines of just kind of constraining it a little bit more to avoid overbuilding in the facilities or is it more so along the lines of just kind of using stuff that's already existing.
It's usually things that are existing in some places, yes, you might actually see a lower IP 30, but it's similar IP 90, that's part of the ways in which we're saving some money is if you build everything for an IP 30.
More specifically to that answer then.
Talk about that.
Everything's kind of region specific to a certain extent then you got to fit the design to that area do you. All feel you have a pretty good handle on that moving forward or is there still some learnings as 'twenty 'twenty four is still going to be a partial learning your or do you feel good about where you're entering the year in setting those expectations.
Your cost structure is higher however, if you look at your rate of return.
<unk> billings towards the 1990, so over the year you wouldn't see it maybe on an exact well in an exact month you might see a different peak.
If youre looking at a quarter of publicly available data that I don't think you'd see the difference that you'd probably see more stable production over time, the other place it sounds like some of the design changes, we're talking about will actually help eliminate or reduce back pressure.
Well, while we feel good about where we are but two I think you are always learning.
We you should learn on each and every pad.
I wouldn't say, we've never stop learning never expect to start learning or modifying tweaking and improving it.
We'll actually improve particularly to improve some of our production on the base.
Organization does that you've kind of dialed down the volume.
No I think we feel good about where we are where our current set of expectations are we feel good about what we've learned.
Awesome and if I could squeeze just one more in with respect to.
The Q4 guide.
And then all of that said, if our peer we look to try to improve and improve and improve and again you never.
Obviously, a downward revision there, but just wanted to see is there any sort of breakout in terms of what could be attributed to the less oil than expected from the subset of wells that came out of the west area within the quarter versus just.
Actually this is a new focus on the team we review each.
Each completion at the time was AA feed we review the east completion two weeks before we actually completed.
We do think and with each pad each field.
Incremental downtime from accelerating some of the optimization that you're doing on the artificial lift side.
Each business unit is embarking on little tweaks will define and implement one of the things that we're learning from ourselves from offset operators that will notch out another 3% 4% rate of return just like what it was in the slide deck you saw a couple of things. We can do at 34567, 8% while same thing happens with completion designs anything happens we will face the land.
Yes.
A majority of the from what we highlighted Delaware West.
Okay. Thanks.
Thanks, I appreciate the color guys.
Okay.
Our next question comes from Derrick Whitfield with Stifel. Your line is open.
And spacing same thing happens with your real estate your cost structure and all of a sudden you take inventory that might have been 20% rate of return youre, making it 40 or 50.
Thanks, Good morning, all and congrats on the structural improvements you've outlined this quarter.
Thanks, Eric.
It takes a lot of effort to get you there, but that's that's going to be an ongoing process, but I would say generally we feel good about where we are but don't expect us to stop our and we should always keep barring alky modify.
Starting with a follow up on the Delaware less development.
I wanted to ask if you could lean in on the learn lessons and specifically does the higher viewer indicate greater vertical connectivity through the lower wolfcamp zones, or simply a gassy or upper wolfcamp based on past depletion from loans from development.
Understood.
And Joe this one might be for you I mean, obviously you guys are very focused on getting the operations, where they need to be getting the cost down I mean, that's obviously priority number one but.
So I'd say that the generic learning is is you've got to make sure youre doing a great job taking.
Certainly.
Validation has become extremely topical here over the last few.
A few months you guys have yourselves.
Taking into account that what also happened on your acreage, but offset acreage we're projecting that into the future looking at how how that regional depletion may impact you going forward and then also looking at how.
<unk> been involved in it for a number of years as well can you talk about the thoughts on Cowen and where it fits on sort of consolidation where you'd like to see the company over the next few years.
Youre spacing needs to be appropriately designed a redesign in order to optimize your capital investment going forward.
Yes, Scott I'll hit that at a high level.
So there's still plenty to do there, but yes, a lot of what it may involve us in order to maximize NAV, because youre dealing with a little bit lower reservoir pressure as we're talking about wells with larger completions, plus Safeway spaced further apart actually optimizes youre going to be.
Obviously, we've seen a lot of consolidation of assets and some corporate activity out there that shouldnt be.
All that surprising anyone who has been around this business that happens over time, not only as people pursue inventory, but with this latest iteration, obviously cost of capital for this industry has gone up.
When youre seeing that but that's really the I'd say the key learning from this is is looking at bench by bench what is the appropriate spacing looking bench by bench to see which wells are communicating with what where you have local geologic features where you have localized increased depletion from offset operators to.
And largely speaking.
Bigger companies are afforded a better cost of capital. So we're laser focused on what's happening around us and as we said we have actively participated in that and shapes and forms over time.
To make sure that you are optimizing your capital going forward.
We have to be nimble and make sure that we're positioned to participate in the right way consolidation and that boils down to two things one is having a robust inventory with strong economics, which we have and a good balance sheet is improving which we have that gives you options across the spectrum moving forward.
And Russell kind of looking forward with that development in that area.
Do you think you'll have enough data kind of post this said post.
Testament to to have a good feel for what spacing should be as you guys look to develop that out in 2024 and 229.
Thank you.
Absolutely not only are we looking at fit for purpose on the <unk> side, but.
Our next question comes from Paul Diamond with Citi. Your line is open.
We're actually really started to unlock some of the other team members as we change our structure and really take into account and analyzed quite a bit more data than that we have in the past as a company.
Hi, Good morning, all and thanks for taking my call a couple of quick ones for me in the prepared remarks, you guys talked about.
Learnings around deeper zones being able to be developed separately from other benches. I was wondering if you can provide a bit more color there.
We're actually doing a lot of exciting things around machine learning and predictions in reservoir simulation.
To help us improve the accuracy of our models and really have a good handle on how you can iterate on different spacing different landing, which how many how many individual wells and marketplaces based optimize NAV bar for bench with Vince as we see our communicating with one another we have been doing some expiring experiments actually to figure out.
We did an experiment earlier this year in which we.
Fingerprinted, if you will.
The fluid from a bunch of from all the different benches.
Then we use that fingerprint along with it along with several.
Fluid samples in each of the wells in each bench that we took over time to see which wells were communicating with wedge wells over time and it was very interesting that you'd see a different mix of communication from early in life until the late life, but from that process. We can figure out where expenses basically we're not communicating with our alpha <unk>.
Fluid typing.
And actually being able to really see what zones are communicating with with what other zones by doing what felt like a fluid fingerprint.
No absolutely, it's an incredible focus of our technical.
<unk> not only in this basin, but everywhere.
Because same learnings or the same process can be used to help you optimize your NAV.
Wells need to be.
In which you really didn't see that communication, if not early time, but over the long term, meaning you have the opportunity to potentially develop those benches at a later date. So it's a thorough process of fluid fingerprinting.
All your assets.
I'm going to work when you signed one final if I could just on page eight looking out into 2024 could you speak to how impactful three mile lateral development could be in your operational point.
Detailed and Theres a couple of different companies that specialize in this but that's how we've done it and where applicable we may do more experiments, where we gather.
So I think that how impactful a three mile lateral.
Alright, yes.
Yeah, well part of what we wanted to show there was actually not only just record lateral but record time.
Gather that data again to help us better understand exactly what reservoirs are communicating with what reservoirs and at which pattern because it also.
What's the first time saves money.
In terms of how many locations. We will have next year that'll be three miles that we're still working at our budget and figuring that out.
The order in which you develop the reservoir it will impact that without youre drilling upper wells versus lower wealth, although our wells, where several wells and with orders that come in over time. So that's how we did it was a fluid thing.
I'd say, probably the P 50 answers that we're still drilling at $3 50, a 10000 foot wells, but we are looking for places where we can extend that wherever Boston matter of fact in one particular location, we can even drill Australia 15000 foot hole.
Fluid fingerprinting experiment.
Understood were there any geographic areas and that was more focused in or is it pretty much the entire Permian.
But we drove basically if you will like.
L shape, well almost well abandon it in order to one optimize depletion of the reservoir dealing with lease situations that we had acreage situation that we had our footprint, but also thereby maximizing our returns. So we're going to be looking at that we're going to be looking at U shaped wells, we're going to look at a lot of different concepts.
That particular experiment I'm, referring to is in the south but we may look at doing some similar some similar experiments elsewhere in our acreage in 'twenty four.
Understood. Thanks, and just one quick follow up.
Slide H, you had some pretty interesting kind of trend data on.
In order to optimize our NAV, but also kind of.
Spud to rig release completed lateral.
Opening our minds.
G&P per level.
All with them within the art of the possible in terms of well shaped landing links.
Good idea of how you guys are viewing as those trends going forward in 'twenty four and beyond should we assume some somewhat linear or diminishing returns or how you guys are thinking about that.
And time to death.
That's a great update thanks for your time.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from Scott Hanold with RBC capital markets. Your line is open.
I think youll see it'll be at Athens out for sure.
Okay.
We're already realizing some of it.
Hey, Thank you all.
And hopefully this hasn't been asked yet Ben just jump to a couple of calls that are going on but just in terms of.
We're not to the end of the asymptote at all yet I'd say.
But with any program like this as you look to make tweaks and look to make tweaks you hit your lowest hanging fruit early which may be say casing strings, and I'll talk about well design and then the more difficult tweaks come later exact nozzles program exact fit program all the other little pieces that will will save save time off but maybe not as dramatically.
You all saw on the Delaware West and what Youre learning there.
Could you talk about like your asset base just more at large.
There are other areas that have regional pollution or spacing that there's something youll be cognizant of or is this one or is this more Delaware west specific and can you talk about where delver west fits into your overall inventory and activity levels moving forward.
Eliminating a casing strength.
So I'd say, we'll never stop trying.
But obviously we.
And any design changes.
Yeah.
You always hit the lowest hanging fruit first which means you get your biggest impact first.
So I'd say going forward into next year I assume we're probably going to be more heavily weighted in the east and in the Midland Basin. However, we do already have some slated projects in south and west.
No. So that's why I said I think we're already probably in that 10% savings range and at.
The end of the Q4 beginning of Q1.
And honestly you can map. This we've actually made some cool a little movies about it will videos.
Looking to.
Average, 60% or better over the year, but as the year goes on continues tweak that and tweak that big that tweak our desire to find a little bit more but yes. If you were to draw it out it looks like in October.
Regional pressure decline is real and all benches within the Permian. If anybody tells you that it's not that they're not looking at the data that doesn't mean you can't make money. However that just means you've got to take it into account. When you are building your development plans and as you continue to learn and modify your developed plants. So I think look the process and what we learned in the Delaware West is something that you can apply everywhere.
At the same time, if you are open open minded and fit for purpose you will always find something.
Okay.
Thanks for the clarity.
Our next question comes from Gabe Daoud with Cowen <unk> Company. Your line is open.
Do you see that same level of pressure decline all throughout the Permian know, it's specific by bench is specific by area that which parts of the county that you ran so there's not a it's not a blanket answer which again is kind of coming back to when you're developing your asset and same thing for Cowen you want to do a fit for purpose design because not each each area is seeing similar.
Thanks, Hey, good morning, everyone.
Was hoping Joe could you just go back to the comment around lower reinvestment rates and I know you mentioned.
The goal of that is to.
Better manage free cash initiatives, but just curious how does that translate to.
Phenomenon, but not at the same level not the same degree not saying and not with the same with ever bench right. You don't see you don't see it because maybe the reservoir is it start out with the same.
Top line growth I think previously you guys had mentioned maybe a zero to 4% growth rate on production on an annual basis. So just curious then how does lower reinvestment rate.
<unk>, let's start out with the same.
Historically.
Our geologic history and Digenesis, so theres, all sorts of reasons, but that produce different results, but the process and the learnings. We can apply everywhere in terms of yes, where I see us spending money or where we see ourselves spending money definitely a lot of.
Equate to that number I'm, assuming maybe it's lower over time, but just curious to hear your thoughts.
Yes.
Happy to.
Take that one.
I mentioned earlier going into 'twenty four priority is really going to be on capital efficiency and realizing all things we've been talking here about <unk>.
More weighted to the Delaware and Midland asset in 'twenty, four we do still have projects selling the south and in the West and then we're working on some things longer term to make the investment opportunity even more exciting in those basins that was part of our assets, but more to come on that Thats a teaser for next year.
In terms of DCF costs high grading, our asset base, improving cycle times, I think that'll get us off to a good start getting into 'twenty four or obviously provide some some more formal guidance.
Okay more specifically to that answer then.
You talked about that.
As we move forward, but in the near term.
Everything's kind of region specific to a certain extent then you go to fit the design to that area.
Our prioritizing capital efficiency and cash flow versus.
Any meaningful headline production growth now hopefully we realize all of these efficiencies get go and hoping to do better I think that's the time when we look at adding.
Do you all feel you have a pretty good handle on that moving forward or is there still some learnings as 'twenty 'twenty four is still going to be a partial learning your or do you feel good about where youre entering the year in setting those expectations.
Adding some additional activity.
With reinvesting back in the asset base over time, but.
Well, while we feel good about where we are but two I think you're always learning.
We you should learn on each and every pad.
Give us some time here to put all these things in motion.
I would say, we've never stop learning and never expect to start learning or modifying tweaking and improving.
Okay.
Okay understood. Thanks, Joe and then.
Guess as a follow up you highlighted a lot of the.
The organization does that you've kind of dialogue you've done on the volume.
But now I think we feel good about where we are where our current set of expectations are we feel good about what we've learned.
Obviously cost savings on the capital front, but just curious you.
You did another good job here on low how does <unk> trend into 'twenty four and do you think there's more you can squeeze out of there.
And then all of that said at Premier, we look to try to improve and improve and improve and again you never.
I think our biggest opportunity on <unk> long term is fixing our failure rate or failure of USPS account for about five days of our artificial lift.
Actually this is a new focus on the team we review.
Each completion at the time of <unk>, We review the East completion, two weeks before we actually completed.
Where our highest failure rate is.
Anything and with each pad HBO each.
And.
Each business unit is working on little tweaks will define and implement one of the things that we're learning from ourselves from offset operators that will notch out another 3% 4% rate of return just like what it was in the slide deck you saw a couple of things we could do at 34567, 8%. While same thing happens with completion design same thing happens with little tweaks to lag.
That's probably the.
Largest part of our expense structure I'd say on the LOE front that has the opportunity of opportunity for improvement that won't happen quickly you don't change tellurate overnight or even in a quarter that comes from a program change not only a fit for purpose artificial lift, but how you're optimizing the ESP what size. They are a whole host of things.
And spacing.
Thing happens with your real estate your cost structure and all of a sudden you take inventory that might have been 20% rate of return youre, making it 40 or 50.
What's your surface facilities due in terms of maintaining electric power, even when youre suffering power outages. So there's a whole host of things that you have to do there in order to improve that failure rate, but that portion of our spin is neighborhood $50 million a year.
It takes a lot of effort to get you there, but that's that's going to be an ongoing process, but I'd say generally we feel good about where we are but don't expect us to stop offering we should always keep barring Alex can you quantify.
And it's all driven by the rate at which wells fail. So it'll be a big focus of ours in 2004 to try to whittle that down and see if over the next couple of years, we can't cut that in half our reduce it by 75% ideally enzyme, but thats, probably the biggest single opportunity.
Understood.
And Joe this one might be for you I mean, you don't have a.
So you guys are very focused on getting the operations, where they need to be getting the costs down I mean, thats, obviously priority number one but.
Certainly.
Consolidation has become extremely topical here over the last.
Otherwise, what we're looking at structurally or some places in which we can improve our.
Few months you guys have yourselves have been involved in it for a number of years as well can you talk about the thoughts on <unk>.
Not only are basically improve our chemical spend.
With some.
Larger infrastructure projects, that's going to take some time to implement and of course, that's because we deal with sour gas just like a lot of other people do in the Delaware Basin I got a little bit on the Midland basin, but not as prolific there, but I'd say those two those two areas are going to be our primary focus is on on LOE, but they'll take.
Cowen and where it fits on sort of consolidation where you'd like to see the company over the next few years.
Yes, Scott.
I'll hit that at a high level.
Obviously, we've seen a lot of consolidation of assets.
Corporate activity out there that shouldnt be.
Those will probably take longer to come to fruition.
All that surprising anyone who has been around this business that happens over time, not only as people pursue inventory, but with this latest iteration, obviously cost of capital for this industry has gone up.
Got it thanks Russell Thanks, everyone.
Thanks Gabe.
There are no further questions at this time.
I'll now turn the call back to Joe Gatto for any closing remarks.
Largely speaking.
Thank you everyone for joining and the interest in Cowen.
Bigger companies that reported a better cost of capital. So we're laser focused on what's happening around us and as we said we have actively participated in that and shapes and forms over time.
We covered a lot of ground here today with a lot of exciting things going on and we'll have a lot more to fill in over the coming months and look forward to keeping you all up to date on that and as always if any questions. Please feel to reach out thanks again.
We have to be nimble and make sure that we're positioned to participate in the right way consolidation and that boils down to two things one is having a robust inventory with strong economics, which we have and a good balance sheet is improving which we have that gives you options across the spectrum moving forward.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining US you may now disconnect.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from Paul Diamond with Citi. Your line is open.
Hi, Good morning, all and thanks for taking my call a couple of quick ones for me in the prepared remarks, you guys talked about some learnings around deeper zones being able to be developed et cetera separately from other benches. I was wondering if you could provide a bit more color there.
We did an experiment earlier this year in which we.
Fingerprinted, if you will.
Fluid from a bunch of from all the different benches.
And then we use that fingerprint along with its along with several.
Fluid samples in each of the wells in each bench that we took over time.
Which wells were communicating with wedge wells over time, and it was very interesting that you'd see a different mix of communication from early in life until till late life, but from that process. We can figure out where expenses basically we're not communicating with our alpha are part of the wells need to be.
In which you really didn't see that communication, if not early time, but over the long term, meaning you have the opportunity to potentially develop those benches at a later date. So it's a thorough process of fluid fingerprinting.
Detailed and Theres a couple of different companies that specialize in this but that's how we've done it and where applicable we maybe be more experiments, where we gather.
Gather that data again to help us better understand exactly what reservoirs are communicating with what reservoirs and at which pattern because it also.
The order in which you develop the reservoir it will impact that without youre drilling upper wells versus lower wells, although our wells, where several wells and with orders that come in over time, so but thats. How we did it was a fluid thing.
Fluid fingerprinting experiment.
Understood were there any geographic areas and that was more focused in or is it pretty much the entire Permian.
That particular experiment I'm, referring to is in the south but we may look at doing some similar some similar experiments elsewhere on our acreage and 24.
Understood. Thanks, and just one quick follow up.
Slide H, you had some pretty interesting kind of trend data on.
Spud to rig release completed lateral.
GNP provider.
Good idea of how you guys are viewing as those trends going forward in 'twenty four and beyond should we assume no some somewhat linear or diminishing returns or just how you guys are thinking about that.
I think youll see it'll be at Athens out for sure.
Okay.
We're already realizing some of it.
We're not to the end of the asymptote at all yet I'd say.
But with any program like this as you look to make tweaks and look to make tweaks you hit your lowest hanging fruit early which maybe say casing strains when I'm talking about well design and then the more difficult tweaks come later exact nozzles program exact fit program all the other little pieces that will will save save time off but maybe not as dramatically.
Eliminating a casing strength.
So I'd say, we'll never stop trying.
But obviously we.
And any design changes.
You always hit the lowest hanging fruit first which means you get your biggest impact first.
No. So that's why I said I think we're already probably in that 10% savings range and at.
The end of the Q4 beginning of Q1.
Looking to.
Average, 60% or better over the year, but as the year goes on continues tweak that and tweak that took that tweak our desire to find a little bit more but yes. If you were to draw it out it looks like in October.
At the same time, if you are open open minded and fit for purpose you will always find something.
Okay.
Thanks for the clarity.
Our next question comes from Gabe Daoud with Cowen <unk> Company. Your line is open.
Thanks, Hey, good morning, everyone.
Was hoping Joe could you just go back to the comment around lower reinvestment rates and I know you mentioned.
The goal is to.
Better manage free cash initiatives, but just curious how does that translate to.
Top line growth I think previously you guys had mentioned maybe a zero to 4% growth rate on production on an annual basis. So just curious then how does lower reinvestment rate.
Equate to that number I'm, assuming maybe it's lower over time, but just curious to hear your thoughts.
Yes.
Happy to.
Take that one.
I mentioned earlier going into 'twenty four priority is really going to be on capital efficiency and realizing all things we've been talking here about.
In terms of DCF costs high grading, our asset base, improving cycle times, I think that'll get us off to a good start getting into 'twenty four or obviously provide some some more formal guidance.
As we move forward, but in the near term.
We are prioritizing capital efficiency and cash flow versus.
Any meaningful headline production growth now hopefully we realize all of these efficiencies get go and hoping to do better I think that's the time when we look at adding.
Adding some additional activity.
With reinvesting back in the.
The asset base over time, but.
Give us some time here to put all of these these things in motion.
Okay.
Okay understood. Thanks, Joe and then I guess.
As a follow up you highlighted a lot of the.
Obviously cost savings on the capital front, but just curious.
You did another good job here on <unk>, how does <unk> trend into 'twenty four and do you think there's more you can squeeze out of there.
Okay.
I think our biggest opportunity on <unk> long term is fixing our failure rate or failure of USPS account for about five days of our artificial lift.
That's where our highest failure rate is.
And.
That's probably the.
Largest part of our expense structure I'd say on the LOE front that has the opportunity of opportunity for improvement that won't happen quickly you don't change tellurate overnight or even in the quarter.
It comes from a program change not only a fit for purpose artificial lift, but how you're optimizing the ESP what size. They are a whole host of things.
Whats your surface facilities due in terms of maintaining electric power, even when youre suffering power outages. So there's a whole host of things that you have to do there in order to improve that failure rate, but that portion of our spend is neighborhood $50 million a year.
And it's all driven by the rate at which wells fail. So it'll be a big focus of ours in 2004 to try to.
Whittle that down and see if over the next couple of years, we can cut that in half our reduce it by 75% ideally in time, but thats, probably the biggest single opportunity.
Otherwise, what we're looking at structurally or some places in which we can improve our.
Not only are basically improve our chemical spend.
With some.
Larger infrastructure projects, that's going to take some time to implement and of course, that's because we deal with sour gas just like a lot of other people do in the Delaware Basin I got a little bit on the Midland base, but not as prolific there, but I'd say those two those two areas are going to be our primary focus is on on LOE, but they'll take.
Those will probably take longer to come to fruition.
Got it thanks Russell Thanks, everyone.
Thanks Gabe.
There are no further questions at this time.
I'll now turn the call back to Joe Gatto for any closing remarks.
Thank you everyone for joining and the interest in Cowen.
We covered a lot of ground here today.
Lot of exciting things going on and we'll have a lot more to fill in over the coming months and look forward to keeping you all up to date on that and as always if any questions. Please feel to reach out thanks again.
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