Q3 2023 Wolverine World Wide Inc Earnings Call
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Greetings and welcome to the Wolverine worldwide third quarter 2023 earnings call.
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Now my pleasure to introduce your host Alex Wiseman Vice President of Finance.
Thank you Alex you may begin.
Good morning, and welcome to our third quarter 2023 conference call.
On the call today are Chris Hufnagel, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mike <unk>, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Earlier. This morning, we issued our earnings press release and announced our financial results for the third quarter 2023.
The press release is available on many new sites and can be viewed on our corporate website at Wolverine worldwide Dot com.
This morning's earnings press release and comments made during today's earnings call include non-GAAP financial measures.
These non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled to the most comparable GAAP financial measures and attached tables within the body of the release.
I'd also like to remind you that statements describing the company's expectations plans predictions and projections such as those regarding the company's outlook for fiscal year 2023 growth opportunities and trends expected to affect the company's future performance made during todays conference call are forward looking statements under U S Securities laws.
As a result, we must caution you that there are a number of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the forward looking statements.
These important risk factors are identified in the company's SEC filings and in our press releases.
But that being said I'd now like to turn the call over to Chris Hufnagel.
Thanks, Alex.
Morning, everyone and thank you for joining us on today's call.
For the third quarter, we delivered revenue and earnings in line with our expectations and inventories, notably better than our target.
Importantly, we achieved several significant milestones in the turnaround of the company.
We're executing more boldly and at a greater pace to stabilize and transform the business. While there is still much work to be done.
I'm proud and encouraged by the progress we've made in a very short period of time.
Mike started to provide detail shortly and the performance in the last quarter.
Led by an update to our guidance for the balance of 2023.
Given the headwinds we see on the immediate horizon our results in the final quarter of the year will be less than we previously expected and certainly less than the company's full potential.
And while our turnaround and ultimately the transformation of Wolverine worldwide.
We completed in a quarter or two especially given the challenging environment, we find ourselves in today.
We expect to continue to make meaningful progress towards our transformation goals.
Goals are truly was sharing with you along the way.
Overall I remain confident in our family of authentic brands, our global platforms and most importantly, our team.
I'd like to start this morning's call with my initial observations along with an update on our recent progress in stabilizing the company.
And also it's transforming us into a great brand builders delivering long term sustainable profitable growth for our shareholders.
The Amax 91 days since I first spoke to you in August 10th My first day as CEO.
Over those 91 days I've had the opportunity to assess the company's current state bank aging a broad spectrum of stakeholders. Our team members our board key domestic international partners supply chain partners investors and more.
By digging deep into our enterprise wide operations and scouring the market to observe how our brands and our competitors dropped to consumers each day.
It's become clear to me, we can drive meaningful improvement across our global business do better alignment focus and investments.
Specifically here are five observations and the actions we're taking.
First and critically we've historically underinvested in our brands product innovation and demand creation.
And I believe our topline challenges today are in part a consequence of the fact, we intend to and already have begun to strategically invest more on our biggest growth opportunities and we must be better protecting these brand building investments in the future.
Second we've relied on a push model and we focus too much on sell in and not enough on sell through.
We need to create a pull model for our brands driven by Austin products and amazing storytelling.
Next we must become better brand managers, how we distribute managed supply and demand and how we relentlessly protect our brands in the marketplace.
We're thinking about sustainable growth in a new way investing in the brand protection team to help manage and monitor the marketplace.
Fourth we haven't prioritized relationships with our key partners both here in the U S and around the world, we must be more strategic and less transactional in the future. We're re engaging with them in all levels of the organization.
Collaborate and share growth plans.
And finally, we havent regularly updated many of the tools to help us compete and win in today's rapidly evolving marketplace.
Whether it be planning product management creation or direct to consumer platforms.
We're implementing a variety of solutions here to take advantage of technology, better integrate our planning processes and ensure better efficiency in our operations.
New tools are already online and more we piloted by yearend.
All of these challenges are solvable and while the macro market conditions are certainly difficult today, we're choosing to focus on what we can control.
In any environment there are always winners.
I believe the actions that Bob will help us build better stronger more resilient brands to weather the inevitable storms.
Moving to our turnaround efforts to position Wolverine for the future. We've been focused on two critical efforts over the past three months.
First stabilizing the company, but deleveraging the balance sheet, reducing our inventory and restructuring the organization to reduce our cost structure and improve the margin profile.
Work will enable us to invest more in our brands and platforms to drive growth.
Second redesigned the company by.
By strengthening the key strategic capabilities and talents needed to become great consumer obsessed brand builders focused squarely on consistently delivering awesome products and telling amazing stories.
And ultimately reinvigorating our brand scores trajectories.
As it relates to stabilizing the company, let me cover three important topics.
We continue to actively rationalize our portfolio by selling certain hush puppies, IP and greater China as well as our North American Leathers business this quarter.
This follows the divestiture of the Keds brand and the licensing of our Hush puppies brand in North America earlier this year.
These transactions have further focused our portfolio and generated $155 million in proceeds to strengthen the balance sheet.
Other current important work is currently in flight and we expect additional deleverage in the coming months.
This work includes seeking strategic alternatives for the Sperry brand, which is well underway.
We're committed to aggressively paying down debt, while reshaping our portfolio to become a more focused business.
Next we made solid progress on the inventory front.
Inventories for the ongoing business ended the quarter were down 13% compared to the prior quarter and down 33% on a year over year basis.
We now expect to end the year with total inventory of approximately $490 million a reduction of 34% compared to year end 2022 and nearly $30 million better than what we guided last quarter.
Finally, we made significant progress on our cost structure, including the redesign of our global operating model announced this morning.
Our fast and both profit improvement work is to provide a line of sight to approximately $215 million of annualized savings.
With initiatives spanning organizational design supply chain global infrastructure and more.
We're quickly becoming a more focused agile and efficient company with enhanced capacity to invest in our biggest growth opportunities.
As you think about the new Wolverine worldwide, let me highlight a few key actions we've already taken to redesign the company for the future.
We're building the muscle behind the key brand building capabilities that we believe will generate the biggest returns in today's marketplace.
Including consumer insights product design, and innovation and modern demand creation.
This morning, we announced an important component of our redesign initiative the creation of the collective.
Our new strategic center of excellence focused squarely on the consumer with teams dedicated to consumer insights market intelligence innovation trend marketing public relations and in House Creative Agency design studio.
The collective is intended to support and enable our brands pocket innovation design as well as creative storytelling to drive brands demand and heat in the marketplace.
I'm excited about this new team and what they can do for our family of brands today and into the future.
In addition to creating the collective we've consolidate our global licensing efforts and create a new global licensing team.
Unlocking our brands' full commercial opportunity around the world, which we believe could be very meaningful to clear responsibilities greater focus and improved coordination with our global partners.
We've appointed strong and experienced leaders to oversee the collective and our new global licensing team I'm excited for them to get into new assignments and helped drive the company forward.
Now I'm going to turn the call over to Mike share more detail on our third quarter results and updated guidance before returning to provide some closing comments I'm a feature of our company Mike.
Thanks, Chris.
Thank you all for joining the call.
This mornings call I will start with a review of third quarter results.
Following my update on our transformation work and then guidance.
Third quarter revenue for ongoing business with $519 $5 million was in line with our outlook and down 20% from last year.
Adjusted gross margin of 41, 2% was below our expectations.
We accelerated the liquidation of end of life inventory.
Which negatively impacted gross margin.
But helped to drive inventory levels down by $66 million more than planned.
Sales to third party distributors.
Which carry a lower gross margin were a bigger part of our sales mix in Q3 and also contributed to the lower gross margin.
Adjusted operating margin was four 3%.
With discretionary cost management offsetting the shortfall in gross profit.
Reported operating margin was five 2%.
Adjusted diluted earnings per share for the quarter were seven cents.
In line with our guidance.
And it includes a three unplanned negative variance.
From FX changes in the quarter.
Reported diluted earnings per share.
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And included a gain on the sale of Hush puppies IP in China, Hong Kong and Macau.
And a gain on sale of the North American Leathers business.
This was offset by an impairment charge for Sperry as intangible assets.
Shifting to the balance sheet.
We made meaningful progress to further improve inventory net debt and liquidity during the third quarter.
Inventory for the ongoing business was $564 million down, 33% compared to last year and over 10% better than expected.
We delivered this improvement leveraging updated planning processes.
New weekly read and react sessions with each business unit.
In a normalized supply chain environment.
Better decisions that contributed to the Q3 inventory improvement.
We now project year end inventory of approximately $490 million.
$30 million lower than our outlook in August.
As it relates to net debt and liquidity, we have moved quickly to sell additional.
Additional noncore assets that will accelerate debt pay down.
During the third quarter, we generated nearly $55 million of cash proceeds from asset sales.
As a result, we ended the quarter with net debt of $930 million.
Liquidity of $400 million in the bank defined leverage ratio of 3.4 times.
Down slightly from Q2.
Efforts to monetize noncore assets continue.
And we now expect an additional $65 million in proceeds.
Transactions that will close later this year.
Including these asset sales.
We expect year end net debt of approximately $850 million.
And bank defined leverage of approximately three times.
Before we cover the outlook for the rest of 2023.
Let me provide an update on the impact from the transformation work that.
Chris covered earlier in his comments.
In August we.
We expanded a comprehensive set of operational and cost savings initiatives.
To accelerate the stabilization of the company.
This work is being led by internal teams, including the profit improvement in office.
With help from outside experts.
In addition to the initiatives that were launched a year ago.
This new work now includes a deep assessment of the company's organizational design.
Cost structure and future operating model.
This work is ongoing but has already resulted in greater expected profit improvements for the business.
As Chris mentioned, we now expect an estimated $215 million of annual savings from these initiatives.
Clothing $75 million to be recognized this year and an incremental $140 million expected in 2024.
A summary of these incremental benefits are listed below.
Supply chain cost improvements of $70 million.
Including lower product freight and logistics costs.
Lower organizational costs of $50 million related to the design changes announced earlier today.
Further SG&A cost savings of $20 million.
Including benefits from consolidating our footprint in the U S and Europe.
Energy's from further integrating the sweaty Betty operation.
And other indirect savings from the global redesign of the company.
In addition to these incremental profit improvements.
We also expect 2024 results will reflect a $60 million benefit.
From 2023 transitory supply chain costs.
That are not anticipated to reoccur.
The cost savings and operational efficiencies generated from this work well.
It will fuel future investments in new talent demand creation innovation and technology platforms needed to stabilize the business and then accelerate the growth trajectory of our brands.
All areas that directly address the core business challenges, Chris summarized earlier.
The level and timing of reinvestment needed in these areas to quickly improve brand performance is being carefully considered as part of our 'twenty 'twenty four planning process.
While we remain committed to an operating margin target of 12% in the near term. We now expect it may take longer to achieve this run rate given the current challenges facing the company.
We do expect this lower cost structure to drive meaningful operating margin expansion and improve cash flow in 2024.
Now, let me transition to the 2023 outlook for the ongoing business and the fourth quarter.
Our guidance reflects the expected performance of our ongoing business.
Which continues to exclude all results during the year for cat and Wolverine leathers.
And adjust for the licensing transition for Hush puppies for the second half of the year.
We continue to evaluate strategic alternatives for Sperry and those results are included in our outlook for 2023.
Like many other companies in our industry, we continue to experience low demand in our U S and European wholesale businesses.
Which represent approximately 50% of the Companys global revenue.
Over recent months, our brands has seen a slight improvement in channel inventory.
Sell through performance.
Lower future order demand and more volatility and weekly order replenishment.
Our retail partners remain cautious about consumer sentiment.
And the prospects for the upcoming holiday season.
And they are placing orders much closer to me.
In August our outlook contemplated second half global wholesale performance to be down mid teens.
We experienced a decline of 14% in Q3.
But we now projected decline of approximately 35% in the fourth quarter.
In addition to a soft macro environment.
Our brands have also been negatively impacted by these important factors.
In excess of gray market selling for Merrell.
Vacating an entry price point segment and related distributions for Saucony.
Increased price point pressure from private label brands in the work category.
Temporary lack of product newness.
And certain color and trend Miss steps across the portfolio.
Outside of our global wholesale business, we expect our D to C channels to be down mid teens in Q4, just slightly lower than Q3.
We now expect mid single digit growth for our third party international business in Q4.
Based on these trends and factors, we now expect fourth quarter revenue of $515 million to $525 million.
Down approximately 18% compared to last year at the midpoint.
Comparable to 20% decline in Q3.
Adjusted gross margin for Q4 is now expected to be approximately 36% impacted.
Impacted by $13 million of transitory supply chain costs that won't reoccur next year.
Significant drop in wholesale revenue.
Higher mix of sales to international distributors.
Higher promotional environment around holiday.
And further efforts to liquidate inventory to achieve our lower year end targets.
Adjusted selling general and administrative expenses for Q4 are now expected to be approximately 38% of sales.
The rate is up slightly from Q3, due partially to a much higher mix of DTC revenue expected in Q4.
In addition, we've made some Q4 investments that we feel will benefit future results, including higher performance marketing spend for our e-commerce sites.
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Key partners to drive faster sell through at retail in Q4.
Fourth quarter adjusted diluted earnings per share are now expected to be a loss of approximately 30.
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For the full year revenue is now expected to be 2.19 to $2. Two zero billion dollars adjusted gross margin for the full year is now expected to be approximately 39% and adjusted selling and general and administrative expenses for the full year are expected to be approximately 36% of revenue.
Full year adjusted diluted earnings per share are now expected to be in the range of five to 10 cents.
In conclusion.
We continue to navigate a tough environment and make fundamental improvements to the business along the way.
The more challenging outlook has accelerated our work to improve the financial strength of the company.
And as further clarified our priorities and opportunities.
Profit improvement and inventory initiatives are accelerating.
And we are creating capacity to invest in our highest priorities in 2024.
Thank you to the entire Wolverine team for their ongoing commitment to the changes we are driving at the company.
Now I'll turn the call back to Chris.
Thanks, Mike.
I'm going to finish this call where I started my very first call as CEO.
Where we're going and the vision for the new Wolverine worldwide.
Our vision is to become great Global brand builders.
To do this we must be closer to our consumers in the market.
Turning to bolster the development of products and marketing by fully integrating insights into our consumers throughout the go to market process across the entire enterprise from ideation to concept and product testing to creative development and optimization and marketing effectiveness.
Equipped with these new insights our brand teams can more successfully execute the three priorities outlined in our brand building model.
Building, often products, telling amazing stories and driving the business.
Wolverine worldwide has a great history of building awesome products and I'm eager to see our brands push that innovation even further.
Empowered by greater consumer insights and the investments, we're making in advanced digital product development and management tools, which Merrell is piloting now for eventual deployment through the rest of the organization.
One area in which I think we have an opportunity to improve the style and trend.
Especially for her trend.
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And we're both enabling our brands to take advantage of these opportunities with resources like the collective and also implementing measures within the brands processes to drive improvement.
Our brands also need to excite consumers with more compelling brand and product storytelling as well.
We believe our investment in consumer insights along with in house creative capabilities will help our brand teams meaningfully elevate our marketing concepts and the creative expression of them to our consumers.
Guided by Indepth external benchmarking analysis, we plan to strategically increase brand marketing investment as well as engage in more consumers with our messaging.
Both in our own channels and wherever our brands are sold.
I'm, especially excited to announce today that we've concluded third one recruiting processes and have hired new chief marketing officers for Merrell Saucony and sweaty Betty each of whom are starting in the next few weeks. These new talents and skill sets for modern demand creation will be critical to our future success.
We must also drive the business more effectively.
This starts at a foundational level, we must get better at planning our business.
We're implementing an improved planning process for integrated demand inventory and supply chain management.
We're also implementing stronger skew management product segmentation within the brands go to market processes and piloting a new digital P. L M system to better enable.
Street strategic management of our product lines, we expect these initiatives to further enhance the companys effectiveness and operational efficiency.
As modern brand builders are brands need presented with distinction in the marketplace.
Consumers want to shop.
This includes our own direct to consumer business, and we plan to upgrade our own digital platforms.
We must also intensify the prioritization of our key domestic and our retail partners.
Partner to them to more closely drive growth together.
We've initiated a series of Topshop meetings to engage with them and rejuvenate our strategic partnerships. Both here in the U S and around the world.
Finally to be great brand builders, it's incumbent on us to become better brand managers. This includes how we distribute how we manage supply and demand and importantly, how we protect our brands in the marketplace.
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Finally, our turnaround efforts will take time.
And I expect the brand headwinds, we're experiencing now to persist into the new year.
At the same time the efforts noted above will require incremental investment the full extent of which is still being assessed.
We're fortunate to have identified and secured significant profit improvement so quickly.
These savings will help fund the needed investments, while also driving meaningful operating margin expansion in 2024.
We'll strive to find a responsible balance between delivering improved bottom line results.
While ensuring we're investing appropriately to help realize the full potential of our portfolio and the long term.
I want to confirm that we remain committed to delivering mid teens operating margin in the future.
Over the past 91 days, we've actions aggressive initiatives across many fronts.
Parallel efforts to both stabilize the company and redesign Wolverine worldwide for the future.
There is significant work to still be done by our team is talented experienced and motivated and importantly, we're moving at a new pace.
We have a shared vision to become consumer obsessed brand builders and we have an extraordinary portfolio of authentic industry, leading brands positioned in the right categories supported by a strong global distribution network and powerful enabling platforms.
Incredibly encouraged by what the team has accomplished in a few short weeks and what I believe we can do together as one Wolverine in the future.
Spike the near term challenges I'm optimistic about our future and have deep conviction to make our vision a reality for our brands our teams and our shareholders.
In closing I want to express my gratitude to every member of our global team.
The work you've done and continue to do each day is sincerely appreciated we made tremendous progress to stabilize Wolverine worldwide and we're in the early days of transforming our 140 year old company.
I firmly believe our very best days are ahead.
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Let's go.
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Okay.
Thank you. Our first question is from Jim Duffy with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Okay.
Yeah. Thank you.
Good morning, Mike Good morning, Chris.
Yeah.
So on the on the cost side it seems like you're making some good progress I guess I'm curious if you could just share some thoughts on kind of a glide path to stabilization in this U S wholesale channel, which has been such a challenge not just for Wolverine, but for others across the category are you seeing.
Since that channel partners are getting into a more normalized inventory position.
Uh huh.
I jumped on the call little bit late I don't know if you've made any comments about your your spring orders you know, what's a kind of a reasonable expectation for the investment community for.
That channel getting to a point of stabilization.
Sure well thanks, Jim I appreciate the question.
I'll hit it first and then Mike can add on you know certainly as we think about the turnaround of the company in.
I think about it across three important.
Time Horizons, there is the stabilization work that we've really for the last 91 days have lean heavy into because we needed to and I'm tremendously encouraged by the progress we've made in a very short period of time.
For that and I think a lot of the work we've done with detailed in our release. This morning, along with the other release, we issued them.
There certainly is the transformation of the organization as we work to sort of pivot from who we were to who we aspire to be and investing in those needed talents and capabilities and tools to allow us to go be great. Great brand builders and then there is the inflection point, where we would pivot pivot to growth obviously, the U S wholesale channel.
Is critically important on Tox as an organization.
And I think you know our challenges there are certainly well noted and I think certainly from an industry standpoint, there's lots of reports about the U S wholesale channel as one of the most sort.
Right now from an industry standpoint, so we're working to get much closer to our partners hopefully that came through in the prepared remarks, I'm sort of understanding where things are where our brand sit.
And those in those channels, how inventory looks in those channels and then how the various pieces are actually performing so U S. Wholesale is a critical piece of our business.
And I think that is one of the places that we've spent a lot of time in the first 91 days, both sort of assessing that channel addressing some of the issues rekindling important relationships with Keith key partners.
Talking about working our own inventory through from a liquidation standpoint, and then importantly investing in that channel to help help help stabilize.
And then Oh.
Inflect to growth so.
You hit on a key point, Jim. It's it is a critical channel for us and I will assure you that that we are leaning into that channel to improve the performance of our brands and the thing I'd add to that.
M is that as it relates to the order book, which is.
I mentioned in my comments retailers are buying so much closer to need right now so the visibility into Q1 in the first half is pretty similar to the visibility we had into into Q4, and so the order trends arent necessarily changing much but I would say as last year.
We sold in about $20 million of end of life product in the first quarter.
That's not going to repeat again, but those that was really low margin. So.
We're not going to anniversary that but when we think about the health of the business and the improvements we're seeing in terms of.
Channel inventories and our sell through rates and things.
I'm.
Hopeful that thats going to start to accelerate in the first part of the year, but as we plan the business more around the stabilization that Chris was talking about about $50 million of those profit improvements that we expect to incrementally achieve next year will be achieved in the first quarter, that's the transitory costs.
Going away in the profit improvement initiatives that we've laid out so really feel like we will see sequential improvement on the on the P&L from a profitability standpoint inventories are going to be much cleaner.
So things that are under our control that we've mentioned at length in the prepared.
Prepared remarks, I think are going to give us a nice start to the year from the standpoint of sequential improvement in profitability and balance sheet metrics and so on so.
Very good and just a bigger picture strategic question Chris.
I'm encouraged that you and the team are taking a fresh perspective on appropriate distribution.
Do you think it's appropriate to abdicate any of your legacy distribution in the interest of building hopefully your brands going forward.
Yeah, It's a great question, Jim and I sort of point points you back towards that initial observations that I made since since assuming the share.
We ultimately have to gone better brand managers, and we have to build resilience comfortable brands that create create a pull model versus us just pushing with more focused on sell through not just on sell in.
And thats, new muscle for us as an organization, but that that is critical for us and we have to become better brand managers to do a better job managing supply and demand and that will be critical evaluation from from who we distribute to them.
And then certainly how we protect our brands in the marketplace. So.
You know us well hopefully you can appreciate the transformation, we're trying to do here in a tough environment and then honestly exerting new muscle as an organization for how we manage and protect our brands in the marketplace, but all of those things are and we're certainly are taking this moment where business is challenged.
To take it as a moment to step back and say how do we want to run our brands in the future how do we want to grow and protect our brands in the future. So all of those things are on the table and all of those things and we will be making those decisions and I. Appreciate you picking up on that.
Thanks, so much.
Thanks, Jim Thank you Jim.
Thank you. Our next question from Laurent <unk> with BNP Paribas. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning. Thank you very much for taking my question, Chris and Mike I wanted to follow up on on the press release and.
In the press release, it says that.
Obviously, you're looking to to yeah.
So sperry at some points, but it also says that you're looking to at other.
Non core assets, maybe can you just unpack that a little bit is that with regards to brands are there any buildings and you're looking to sell.
Any color on that regard that.
That would be very helpful. Thank you very much Sean sure I'll open that up and I'll have Mike might give some more specifics, but I think certainly as this period of transformation, so sort of where we see ourselves. The company we want to be in the needed work, we have to do from a stabilization standpoint, I would say we're looking at everything.
We're looking at all options and we previously announced the plan to seek alternatives for Sperry that work is well underway and we've sold some intellectual property. We're evaluating all of those things and we also previously announced the office closure and sort of consolidate consolidation of offices and.
I think across the enterprise across all of our global footprint.
Where can we do things differently, both both us and the effort to stabilize the company, but then I think more importantly, the future of Wolverine worldwide, how do we run a less complicated business. How do you run a more efficient business. How do we focus on our biggest brands are the biggest opportunities and then importantly, this cost saving effort I really want to emphasize is that.
That all of the work here is really is underpinned with a goal towards pushing more back towards our brands product innovation and then modern demand creation. So.
In total there aren't.
Where we are and having been able to get to sit in this chair I would say everything is on the table right now as we consider what we want the next chapter of the company to be.
It's a little bit more specifically, a little bit more specifically around <unk>.
We announced earlier that we are still.
Working through the non North American portion of our leathers business, that's still in play and we're hoping to move that forward in the fourth quarter, we have some real property.
Real estate and some properties that where we're also looking to.
To sell and monetize and you know and we have some smaller opportunities in different markets around the world. We did an important transaction with one of our sub distributors in China for the Hush puppies brand and we're looking at some opportunities similar to that that are not quite as meaningful but as Chris said everything's on the table I think we have takes.
A really prudent approach to the to the way we're monetizing these noncore assets.
Super helpful. Thank you for that color and then maybe it's the second question with regards to the $215 million annualized cost savings program can you maybe Mike can you kind of unpack that across cost.
Cost of goods sold versus SG&A for 2024, when does that materialize that you expect some some meaningful.
The cost savings out of the $2 15 in the first half of the year or is it more in the second half and then lastly, just on this point.
How much how.
How much are costs.
Cash charges or non cash charges that you expect on this 259.
So a large portion of that.
$215 $75 million of it is recognized this year so the incremental benefit in 'twenty four is going to be a $140 million or so.
We announced today earlier today are pretty meaningful.
Organizational redesign and restructuring of the workforce and that that's going to have a meaningful impact right away on 2024 cost structure, that's about $50 million of benefit.
And that's $50 million of the $1 40 that we talked about there's another $20 million or so of other SG&A expense benefits that.
That will recognize incrementally in 2024 that that comes in the form of a number of different things, including how we're co locating our teams and reducing our footprint in North America and Europe.
Some other just synergies and benefits that we're getting from the work that's been underway for quite some time in the profit improvement office, and then importantly $70 million of savings from.
Supply chain and product cost related negotiations and work that's been ongoing for some time that that number continues to be.
And our primary focus as we try to drive our gross margin and create more capacity as Chris said create more capacity to put behind our brands and in terms of demand creation and other things. So the breakdown is also kind of summarized in our IR deck to Lauren if you want to see some of the details but that's those are the those are the highlights I also.
Mentioned that we have about $60 million of transitory cost this year for some of the extraordinary expenses, we incurred related to the supply chain in late 'twenty. Two in early 'twenty three those are not going to anniversary again next year. So to answer your question about the phasing and the timing of this about $50 million of profit improvement.
Between the initiatives, we talked about in the transitory costs in the first quarter.
And a similar number in Q2 so.
Really really strong improvements in benefits early in the year from from the work that we've laid out.
Super helpful to all colors. Thank you very much.
Thanks, Ron.
Thank you. Our next question is from Mitch comments with Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Yes, thanks for taking my questions I guess I guess my first one is somewhat housekeeping in nature you guys had previously given.
Sales guide by your five key brands.
I was hoping you could update that either for the full year or maybe just give it to us for the fourth quarter. How are you thinking about that.
Yes, Mitch this is Alex we have in our IR deck, we outline that.
So I can it's in.
Page five of that deck. So you can imagine here for the let's just mentioned the fourth quarter of stats there, yes, so for fourth quarter for a merril I'm looking at a high teens decline socgen a mid teens decline.
Sweaty about a high single digit decline in Wolverine high twenties decline.
Clients. Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.
And then you.
Chris you mentioned the importance and sell through.
Versus sell in I mean, they're both obviously important but can you can you talk a little bit about what you're seeing right now.
In terms of sell through on kind of your fall 'twenty three.
Why because it sounds like some of the revised guidance a lot of that is the macro but it sounds like some of it is a bit self inflicted as well. So I was hoping you could address that.
Yes for sure.
Well I will address that I think.
I think we're sitting here today, there's a lot of things we could be reacting to it in the news, we could be talking about weather or student loan repayments or a.
Lots of things in the channel and what we're choosing to do is really focus on the things that we can do better in and once once we get all of our things in order then you'll probably hear us talk about some of those more macro factors, but certainly it certainly at the challenged marketplace, but we're focusing on what we can do better.
I think as an organization from a product standpoint, we haven't we haven't had our strongest introduction this year across across much of the portfolio.
And for US it begins with product.
We ultimately have to deliver innovative trend right colored right priced right place right products in the marketplace and I would say.
We're not we're not firing on all cylinders as an organization, which is why one of the things that we announced today was this establishment of a new a new center of excellence to really help help our brands help.
Help us build comfortable amazing awesome products and.
And I think that that is going to that's going to benefit us tremendously as we get closer to the consumer in the marketplace.
Certainly for us as our brands.
It was all a little bit different and we certainly are seeing some green shoots out there.
Some recent introductions by Saucony.
Have checked and we're encouraged by that the Moab three for Merrell, which is the number one hiking boot in the world and we're actually seeing some good sell throughs of that.
At our at our key partners, but in total I would say we are certainly underperforming.
I think as we work to stabilize the organization, we have a heads up our focus on on what we can do to drive driving improved product pipeline and then certainly all ultimately drive brand heat heat in the marketplace. So those are the things that we're focused on obviously, what we're seeing in the marketplace as reflected in our guide.
But I can assure you you know as we think about 2020 for the products, especially for our big brands Merrell Saucony improvements that we're seeing out of sweaty, Betty which we're really encouraged by we certainly see an improved product pipeline and then our ability to reinvest in that demand creation engine for those brands, which is why this cost takeout work that we've done is so critical.
And I'm thankful that we started that work early.
And we're going to able to reap those benefits for the full year in 2024 and be able to divert more funds towards demand creation, where historically, we have not been as good at that.
And I guess, maybe just a real quick follow up on that because you've identified a lot of significant cost savings opportunities, but you just mentioned the need to reinvest you talked about that earlier in your prepared remarks, how should we think about sort of redeploying some of those savings in Q4 investment in the business.
And the brands.
And I want to make sure as we talk as we talk about the cost savings and the improvements we're going to see as we do this redesign work over the last handful of weeks.
We were very focused on protecting our big brands and our growth engines in them as we did this work and as we're building. Our 2024 plans, we're really setting aside the marketing dollars that we need and the need to reinvest so as I think about investments and still this quarter, we're making incremental investments this year to get our brands moving again, we're talking.
How we are spending on our own direct direct to consumer channels and how we're spending on performance marketing to have a better holiday cultivate new buyers that'll help help us in 2024, and we're working across the U S. Wholesale channel both as we liquidate and move move inventory faster and then how we're engaging with our key wholesale partners to get our brands up a performer performing better than that.
Things so.
Hopefully one of the takeaways that everyone will have from this call is certainly a restructuring effort that was critical and frankly.
Probably a little late and we probably should have done some of these things much earlier than we did.
But we did them now they will impact the full year of fiscal 2024, which I'm encouraged by.
But I want to make sure that the cost saving effort isn't just going to go to the bottom line, we fundamentally have to invest back in our brands Amazing products Awesome stories, and then I know I know that we're capable of driving the business.
Great Thanks, and good luck.
Thanks, Mitch Thank you mentioned.
Thank you. Our next question is from Abbvie generics with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question I'm, just looking at slide nine at the Investor day, it's likely that some of the aspirational growth target. So I guess for the active group that's laid out 7% to 10% revenue growth I think our long term financial aspiration.
What gives you confidence and like what Youre seeing today with the health of the brand that you can get back to that point, you know I understand making lot of investments in brand building and product.
But just anything that you're seeing today that gives you confidence that yeah.
Well I'll start and I'll talk about the active group and what we'll start with Merrell the company's biggest brand.
Coming off of that.
The best year in the brand's history in 2022, and 2023 as is a difficult year for sure.
I think so.
Some of the Merrell challenges right now are self inflicted we did not manage the moab two to <unk> III transition well coming out of the supply chain crisis, how we how we manage that.
Really really put put that brand under a lot of pressure pressure that we are working ourselves out of but that transition of the number one hiking boot in the world.
It has certainly been problematic encouragingly, though the Moab three continues to perform.
And as it relates to market share other than the last than last quarter, and we've had a year's worth of market share gains Merrill's biggest category, though which is outdoor is under pressure and in fact, it's the worst performing category as tracked by NPD. So that there are some certainly some headwinds.
Headwinds there for Merrell at the same time from a brand standpoint.
The brand is.
Is very healthy we have a very good team in place I mentioned, we have a new CMO joined the joining the company as well I feel good about the product pipeline as we get into next year. We are seeing some green shoots in trail run, which is an important piece, but ultimately we have to be better and expand beyond being so dependent upon upon just that core high category in that.
When I talk about resilient brands that can growth in any environment, and we have to become less dependent and move beyond functional footwear as it relates to saucony.
That category there are some very hot players in that category now and its ultra competitive saucony arguably competes in the most competitive competitive a market of all of our brands.
That really comes down to a phenomenal product pipeline and then how we drive demand.
From a stocking perspective I'm encouraged by the product pipeline, we have in 2024 coming new introductions for the ride and guide 17, the triumph 22, and the Hurricane 24, Youre going to see our investments behind those those those core programs for next year and then this year when we innovated with <unk> 'twenty, one we actually saw a really nice.
Pick up right when that product hit and there actually was a halo effect to the balance of the brand Saucony ultimately, though has to open the aperture a little bit and we certainly have to maintain the edge as an elite running brand, but I think we've been too focused on a channel and a core runner and elite core runner and Theres, a big much bigger market opportunity for Saucony and I'm encouraged encouraged by the <unk>.
Progress there and then from a sweaty Betty standpoint, I think certainly as you look at our results I think we're really pleased by the turn that sweaty Betty has made over the last handful of months, we have a new leadership team there as well really you know really sort of driving the retail fundamentals, we're seeing nice pick up in sort of core products.
And then new categories like outerwear to them.
Every Tuesday, we sit and analyze every brand of the company how everything performed last week.
We're seeing new categories premium price points for sweaty, Betty checking, which I'm excited by and I get on a plane on Sunday morning to fly to London to visit the visit with a sweaty Betty team into our retail and I can't wait to it can't wait to get on the ground there and see what's happening there. So that's how we think about the active group in total.
A little bit different story by brand certainly challenged right now as it looks at it but as we think about 2024 I think there are plenty of things to be optimistic about.
Great and just one way that was super helpful.
Just like more al I mean, given the stock price I know, Chris you know, we talked about when you're trying to kind of had an all hands and it seems like everyone is really excited about the changes being made now that you've had.
A round of layoffs and everything can you just talk about the morale of the team.
Yeah, Great question.
People and culture are Theyre very top top of my list of things that I care about most.
I think we're going to hang up with you here in a couple of minutes and were going on in 15 minutes. After we finish we're doing another global town Hall with all of our associates around the world.
We have been really clear with the teams that we are in a turnaround and.
And it's a really a turnaround in three chapters theres a stabilization work, there's the transformation work and then theres the inflection work and.
And I think certainly for US right now as a team we have been over communicative and we've had global town halls. Every couple of weeks I'm doing coffee ours, both in person with the teams here along with virtual coffee hours, where the teams around the world. We just completed an internal internal pulse survey certainly yesterday as part of the restructure was a hard day for the team.
Those are some of the most difficult decisions, we make but.
I do think that there is an energy in the company right now of we know what we have to go do and now we have to go get after that work and the only way the only way to get out of this back back to what we know that our company's potential is.
It is through the work so I'm staying super close to the team I am very thankful of the way the team has leaned in.
And the last three months. It certainly has been an extraordinary three months for us from the transition to a navigating a bumping environment and at the same time all of the change that we're asking the teams to go through but this is a resilient team they take tremendous pride in the company and their brands.
And the fact that we're the team to lead this company. That's 140 <unk> company out of the current situation into better days is not lost on anyone here, but I am very thankful and something we're staying very close to.
Thank you.
Thanks Eddie.
Thank you. Our next question is from Sam Poser with Williams trading. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions.
So.
Chris you talked about the need to get back to a push model pull model excuse me from a push model and <unk>.
You talked about working with your.
Major accounts to create.
Sort of.
For everybody to support what Youre doing.
Now.
How do you given where things stand today, how do you get like isn't it going to take like through next year two to get to a pull model because you're going to have to pull sort of way back to sort of find out what demand is rather than.
There are certain shoes do well like the Moab.
But where you really have to sort of figure out what that demand is and take that very cautiously.
Moving forward. So you can really get a pull model going.
And then I would think that might come through just very strict product allocation even though.
Mike.
Satcom productivity at the beginning.
Yes.
It's a good question and Thats certainly not lost on US and you know Sam we've talked a lot over the years about managing brands and Wolverine worldwide and how we manage the marketplace.
Certainly that are envisioned future of the things that I've talked about and what we want to go do that.
Those things are going to take time, and we're not going to wake up a quarter or two from now and saying we've somehow mysteriously great creative created a pull model.
But that ultimately is where the company has to get to and certainly to be a great global brand builder.
Those are the efforts that we have to take I think there are some easy things that we can do along the way to.
To help us achieve that and I think certainly Sam as we talk about the expectations for growth.
We are approaching those things.
Cautiously and that's why you've seen US work so quickly on the cost structure to fundamentally improve the profit contribution that we have at the same time, finding a balanced approach to reinvesting in our brands.
I will tell you over the last 91 days I've had the privilege of talking to a lot of our top strategic accounts here in the U S and talked to a lot of our partners around the world and when I talk about global brand building and what we want to be great at and what we need from them. They are encouraged by that we're talking about building a more strategic relationship and being less transactional.
At the same time, we're reassured we're lucky.
Wolverine portfolio of the brands that we have Merrill the number one outdoor footwear brand in the world Saucony sort of elite are leader in performance run sweaty, Betty a new entrant to a very fast growing category and then our portfolio work brands between between Wolverine and cat and the brands, we have a great portfolio and when I talk to those partners.
They talk about the strength of portfolio and the consumers that come in and ask for that in the places that with the places that we hold in their assortments. So.
I think it's not going to happen in a quarter or two that is certainly what the envisioned future is but were starting today with that approach.
And I think for US fundamentally we think that ultimately is the charge admission for the organization.
Two more things one I mean doesn't that just a quick follow up on that doesn't that mean, though that to sort of get where you have to get to from our brand strength and.
Sanctity.
Situation means that revenue in 2024, almost for the entire year has to be down even though you might see some gross margin.
So some some margin improvement on significant revenue decreases to improve the health of the brands and then secondly, you talked about.
How do you I mean, what are you going to do to measure demand because that product that ended up in the gray market as you mentioned had to be.
Excess goods sold to somebody that how do you prevent something like that from happening again.
Or.
If youre going to cutback distribution to get with the right partners will you have to take those goods back to prevent more gray market situations. We've seen this from two other brands as well.
Yes, good question and we're not we're not giving any guidance on 2024.
But as we're sort of built building our plans in building our models, we view 2020 for it as a low growth year, both both and what we have to go do from the portfolio standpoint, and frankly sort of just what we're seeing on the horizon, which is what's needed to ensure drove all of the work over the last handful of months to best position the company.
Two to dramatically improve the margin profile of the organization on both both from a gross margin standpoint, and which we've made tremendous progress on and what we anticipate to happen from an operating margin standpoint.
Due to the SG&A work, so no guidance, yet, but I think there is a cautious approach to how we're viewing the year and I'm really viewing 2024, as a bridge to 25 and 26.
We believe this company is capable of a mid single digit consistent revenue growth of achieving operating margins in the mid teens.
We are building plans towards that as it relates to the gray market and those things have always sort of existed.
Certain extent, it's certainly worse for US right now sort of given given the inventory challenges that are resulting of the supply chain issues. As a result of COVID-19, but that that is that is plaguing some of our brands today.
We're seeing it obviously, both in our own DTC performance and I'm also getting very direct feedback from our wholesale partners about that and we're taking some aggressive action with how we better manage our actually how we monitor that and then how we manage that and then the consequences.
When we do find a violator and what the consequences are so Sam.
Sam you talked a lot about how companies manage brands.
I think about that through and distribution choices, we make allocations managing supply and demand, but then certainly how our brand show up day to day is critically important to ultimately becoming great brand builders.
Thanks very much.
Thanks Sam.
Thank you our last question is from Mauricio.
Berna with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Thanks, and good morning, and thanks for taking my question I just wanted to maybe if you could touch a little bit more.
The two largest brands.
<unk> that Socrates resume in a better shape compared tomorrow. So maybe you could just provide more details.
You talked a little bit about that.
The outdoor category are facing headwinds.
Demand perspective, do you believe that that is something that could inflect.
<unk> and 'twenty four or do you think that's like some of the.
Challenge on Saucony like you know how as well.
Why do you think that that Brian is as we are doing.
Relatively better than that.
Then then marrow.
And also just on sweaty Betty just a point of clarification, because I see the guidance for Q4 is that decline. One Q3 revenues were actually up against I just wanted to understand.
IMAX happening there and then just lastly.
Lastly on the <unk>.
On the savings for next year $250 million.
I know you talked about you know.
The margins.
Taking a bit longer to get to the top 12%.
So not happening next year is that is that really more reflective of you know.
A slower top line growth for X X slower top line expectations for next year, how should we think about that.
I'm glad.
Sure.
Operating margin for fiscal year 2020.
Yes, Thanks, Barry So I think there's three questions there and I'll answer a couple of them and turn it back to Mike on the operating margin question first.
And then Mike can add on and then we'll go back to Merrell and Saucony and Sweaty Betty.
Obviously the growth expectations that we currently see for 2024 will be more modest than what we initially thought at.
At the same time I fundamentally think as a company we have to balance find the balance between operating margin expansion and sufficient investment in our brands to catalyze long term sustainable sustainable growth.
And certainly we could do a lot of draconian things and achieve achieve a higher operating margin next year.
That would feel good for one year, but at the same time would not invest position the portfolio and that would be the best for our brands and ultimately I think not in the best interest of our shareholders. So we're going to walk that line very closely we feel good about the operating margin expansion that we can deliver next year at the same time, we know we fundamentally know that our brands need a greater level of investment.
<unk> product innovation modern demand creation and then we've got some tools that need to be updated we have to update our ecommerce platform is very old.
Hard for our consumers to engage its hard for our teams to manage so there are some fundamental investments that we need to make as an organization.
That are prudent and the long term best interest of the company.
As it relates to Maryland, Saucony, and then I'll turn it back to Mike to talk a little bit about sweaty Betty.
You have some specific questions on growth and then you can sort of put a finer point on the operating margin question those brands operate in two different categories.
In our performance run both in the last quarter and trailing 12 months that Ron category is up in fact, one of the best performing categories in the U S as NPD tracks it.
<unk> I think dress is only slightly better off of a much much smaller base and coming off of lots of headwinds, but headwinds related related to the pandemic. So socking to just playing in a different category.
And that is heavily <expletive>.
Dictated by brand heat and then product introductions.
I said I think the product pipeline for the first half of the year for Saucony, probably wasn't as strong.
As we needed it to be and we've made some decisions around exiting some core franchises that I think are in the long term best interest of Saucony, but I think the product pipeline wasn't as strong.
And then saucony is such a great fantastic authentic.
Authentic running brand, we drop a really good to the <unk> 21 in the mid mid part of the year and we see we see some green shoots to growth and like I said before I think there's reasons to believe next year from Saucony standpoint, as it relates to the product pipeline ultimately for US. It's how do we sort of wind back greater share of mind and share of closet with that consumer given given how competitive it.
<unk>.
On the flip side.
<unk> Merrill is operating in the toughest as NPD tracks at Merrill's operating a single toughest category outdoor.
Outdoor has been down double digits for the past year.
That puts a lot of pressure.
We can't however, just say theres category headwinds and sort of sort of call. It a day, we have to build more resilient durable brands that are more elastic that can play beyond just one thing single category that allow us to endure inevitable.
Notable storms that will come and that comes down to us growing into categories like <unk>, which we are seeing some really good green shoots on the Merrell test lab has been a fantastic product innovation incubator. The agility peak five out of the gate is very strong. We're excited about that and then there is a new lifestyle products, we launched a wrapped collection, which is essentially.
Barefoot casual shoe with almost no fanfare at Merrill Dot com over the summer and 83% sellout.
With her actually buying more than him so how our ability to sort of move beyond the moab move beyond core outdoor is going to be critical to merrell success in the long term so.
And again, I think sometimes we paint with big broad strokes to say, what's what's happening at Wolverine when in reality, we have to go a couple layers deeper and say what's happening in saucony, what's happening in their channel what's happening there category, what's happening in mirror, what's happening in their channel and then it's different by the world too and I spent a lot of time talking to our national partners in <unk>.
Still feel the Merrell brand is very strong and I think they feel good about the product pipeline. We're just going through some challenges right now as it relates to the category, but ultimately we have to do a better job building beyond that core business and so we're not just dependent upon.
It's dependent upon tailwind and then over to Mike to add answering some of the sweaty Betty specific questions sure.
The sweaty Betty growth in Q Q3, <unk>, we had.
A strong wholesale performance in Q3 versus the prior year.
Some of that was really because of some timing issues, we actually had a year ago and transitioning that business. So there is a flip between.
Between Q3, and Q4 on the wholesale side Thats.
<unk> those growth rates in each quarter. The other thing I'd say about Q4 for sweaty Betty is slight.
Slightly lower D to C business, but much healthier much less promotional business than a year ago, we were working through excess inventory in Q4, and sweaty Betty a year ago, but the gross margin performance for the brand in Q4. This year is much better much healthier.
Despite a little bit of topline pressure I think the right outcome for the business here in the back half of the year.
Only thing I'd add to the 12% comments that Chris and Chris mentioned is.
We are definitely reevaluating not just the <unk>.
The magnitude of reinvestment, but the different areas that are going to require it sometimes we talk about reinvestment in terms of demand creation and innovation, but there are some fundamental things that we are investing into and we mentioned some of those new planning processes, New PLL systems, and certainly the platforms for our E com business, so that the extent.
Or that is still being evaluated but the timing is really critical that we're not going to.
The phase those out so we're going to get after those early in the year, we're going to make sure that we give ourselves.
The lead time, we need to get those things in place. So that we can see the benefits in the back half of the year. So.
As I said Thats all under very serious consideration as we plan the business for next year.
But we're giving ourselves a lot more.
Room to kind of rethink, how we need to invest and when we need to reinvest.
The needed resources and back into the business to inflect in the back half of 'twenty four.
Very helpful. Thanks, so much.
Thanks Felicia.
Sure.
Thank you there are no further questions at this time I would like to hand, the floor back over to Alex Weideman for closing comments.
Thanks, again to everyone for joining us today have a great day.
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